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A
Welcome
to
the
fourth
meeting
of
the
senate
standing
committee
on
education
like
to
welcome
everyone.
Here
we
have
a
full
audience
today
and
also
to
let
everyone
know
we
have
an
overflow
room
in
room
129
if
you
do
need
to
to
find
your
a
seat.
You're
welcome
to
stand,
but
for
those
that
wish
to
see,
if
you
don't
have
a
seat,
129
is
available
mariah.
If
you
would,
please
call
the
roll.
A
President,
thank
you
so
much
senator
higdon,
I'm
not
sure
if
he
was
caught
in
the
roll
call.
He
was
here
so
just
making
sure
he
was
noticed
as
well.
I
do
ask
any
member
of
the
committee
or
any
of
those
here's
a
guest.
If
you
have
a
cell
phone,
if
you
please
just
turn
that
to
silence
or
vibrate,
I
would
greatly
appreciate
it
as
we
conduct
our
business
this
morning.
D
A
Thank
you
senator
good
to
see
you
too,
how
and
your
constituents
senator.
C
Carroll,
do
you
have
a
guest?
I
do.
Mr
chairman,
I
have
dr
steve
miracle.
The
superintendent
with
the
marshall
county
school
system
is
here,
and
I
think
that's
the
only
superintendent
I
have
present
want
to
compliment
dr
merkel
on
the
job
that
he
did
during
the
tornado
disaster
that
hit
our
part
of
the
state
and
quite
a
bit
of
damage
in
marshall.
County
rallied
the
school
system
and
the
school
system
was
a
huge
support
during
the
initial
days
of
that
event.
C
A
You
senator
carroll,
thank
you
to
all
the
guests
that
are
here
this
morning
visiting
with
us,
especially
those
from
western
kentucky,
and
with
that
I
would
like
to
call
to
the
table.
Senator
jason,
howe
representative
out
of
callaway,
county
and
murray
who's
got
some
guests
here
with
him
that
will
be
making
a
presentation
this
morning,
as
it
relates
to
their
district's
recovery
efforts
to
the
destructive
tornadoes
and
storms.
That
recently
impacted
many
many
communities,
including
my
own
community,
in
taylor
county,
but
also
those
from
far
west
kentucky,
so
senator
howe.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
glad
to
be
here
with
joe
henderson
from
mayfield.
Independent
and
lenny
whalen
from
dawson
springs,
independent,
you're,
independent
right
and
matt
matting
down
here
from
graves
county,
the
three
of
our
our
superintendents
in
here.
E
Let
them
tell
their
story,
but
we
hear
a
lot
of
people
talk
in
our
roles
here
and
there
are
certain
things
that
stand
out
and
I
had
a
conversation
early
on
with
joe
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
he
was
talking
about
that
that'll.
Always
I'll
always
remember,
and
that
stood
out
to
me.
So
much
is
they
ran
a
mass-style
triage
unit
in
his
basketball
gym
the
night
that
these
storms
hit
mayfield,
and
I
think
that
these
men
are
professionals
and
they've
prepared
for
everything.
E
But
I
don't
think
that
he's
ever
prepared
to
have
a
triage
unit
in
his
basketball
gym,
and
that
was
just
the
level
and
the
impact
that
everything
that
fell
down
upon
them,
that
night
and
what
they
experienced
and
what
they
had
to
deal
with.
That's
the
one
thing
that
sticks
to
me,
but
you'd
be
much
better
off
hearing
it
from
them.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
joe
first.
A
F
Thank
you.
As
senator
howe
said,
my
name
is
joe
henderson,
I'm
the
superintendent
at
mayfield,
independent
schools-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
here
today
for
the
opportunity
to
tell
our
story
a
little
bit
I'll
kind
of
start
from
the
beginning.
If
I
get
too
long,
senator
wise,
you
just
hold
your
hand
up
and
I'll
I'll
I'll
scale
it
back,
but
the
night
of
the
tornado.
On
december,
the
10th
I
got
a
phone
call
from
the
head
of
ems
after
the
tornado
had
passed
through
my
home
was
spared.
F
My
family
was
obviously
trying
to
take
shelter,
basically
telling
us
that
he
didn't
even
try
to
get
a
school
bus,
because
there
were
so
many
injured
that
he
didn't
have
enough
ambulances
to
get
them
to
the
hospital.
So
we
were
going
to
haul
the
injured
or
the
hurt
to
the
local
hospitals
as
quickly
as
possible.
Little
did.
I
know
the
two-mile
drive
to
our
bus
garage
and,
an
hour
later,
that
my
bus
garage
and
maintenance
department
took
a
direct
hit.
F
Every
school
bus
I
had
20,
approximately
24
school
buses
were
inoperable,
some
completely
destroyed
and
the
building
was
completely
destroyed.
So
at
that
time
I
was
able
to
give
him
contact
information
to
mr
madding,
the
superintendent
at
graves
county
and
his
bus
garage
was
spared
to
for
the
most
part
and
was
able
to
provide
the
bus
to
be
able
to
transport
those
injured
folks
to
the
hospital
and
get
them
help
in
any
manner
immediately.
I
called
mr
creason
back
head
of
the
ems
and
told
him
I'd
open
the
gym
up.
F
I
said
people
were
walking
the
streets
they
had
nowhere
to
go.
Obviously
you
know
the
candle
factory
had
over
100
employees
in
the
cattle
factory.
That
night
several
were.
There
were
some
fatalities,
but
many
were
being
pulled
from
the
rebel,
a
candle
factory
and
sent
to
the
gymnasium
as
a
makeshift
triage.
For
say
these
people
were
hurt,
but
not
critical,
broken
arms
broken
legs
in
wheelchairs.
That's
not
critical,
so
we
basically
opened
that
up.
Obviously,
we
without
power
and
water.
For
that
night
it
was
70
approximately
70
degrees,
then
that
night
it
came
through.
F
So
our
emergency
generator
was
enough
to
run
the
egress
lighting
and
safety
lighting
enough
to
be
able
to
house
approximately
150
between
150
and
200
people
give
or
take
they
were
in
and
out
throughout
the
night
in
in
the
gymnasium.
That
night,
like
I
said,
many
were
hurt,
injured.
Others
just
know
where
to
go.
Some
just
came
there
because
they
were
scared.
They
didn't
know
what
to
do
so.
One
thing
I
learned
that
night
is
people
turn
to
the
school
systems
many
times
in
a
time
of
need
and
when
they
need
help.
F
We
had
cots
food
water,
blankets,
pillows
whatever,
but
obviously
knowing
it
was
getting
ready
to
turn
cold
the
next
day
and
our
generator
would
not
support
the
the
hvac
and
the
gymnasium
we
basically
communicated
and
the
graves
county
school
system
provided
buses
and
we
were
able
to
transport
those
folks
to
a
shelter
on
the
south
end
of
the
county
that
was
spared
from
the
tornado
and
had
water
and
heat,
as
well
as
moved
all
of
our
supplies
out
at
that
time,
we'd
taken
in
through
the
night
to
help
to
that
area,
and
then
our
school
district
kind
of
developed
into
a
supply
center
people
just
started
bringing
stuff
to
us,
and
you
know
it's
like
senator
howe
said
you.
F
I
didn't
learn
this
in
college.
I
didn't
learn
this.
You
know
anywhere
as
far
as
how
to
react
or
what
to
do.
It
was
just
kind
of
a
natural
reaction
that
you
know
we
got
to
help
our
people
some
way,
and
so
it
developed
into
semi
truckloads
of
stuff
coming
in
from
left
and
right
all
over
the
state
and
even
outside
of
the
state.
We've
had
40
to
50
people
a
day
working
in
there
and
primarily
employees
other
volunteers,
many
students.
F
It
was
eight
o'clock
at
night
before
I
got
out
of
there,
because
we
obviously
wasn't
going
to
run
anyone
out
the
door
that
needed
needed
help
so
that
lasted
for
two
weeks
and
and
then
we
kind
of
started
cleaning
things
up
and
and
trying
to
think
about
what
we
do
as
far
as
getting
back
to
school
had
many
meetings
with
people
asking
about
well
what
what?
What
do
you
think
about
school
and
I'll
just
be
honest?
F
F
It
was
to
try
to
help
our
community
and
help
our
families,
and
I
can't
I
can't
explain
if
you
haven't
been
there,
the
pitchers,
they
don't
do
it
justice.
I
had
a
gentleman
come
in
to
volunteer.
He
was,
he
was
a
veteran.
He
said:
I've
been
in
war
zones,
he
said
war
zones,
don't
look
like
this,
and
so
it's
you
know
it's
very
difficult.
F
The
kids
ride
on
buses
through
that
community
every
day,
and
they
see
that
and
it's
taken
a
mental
toll
on
a
lot
of
our
families,
a
lot
of
our
kids,
so
we're
doing
everything
we
we
can
do
as
far
as
the
mental
health
side.
Of
that
we
even
we
did
that
during
those
those
weeks
after
the
tornado
and
we've
continued
to
try
to
focus
on
that
with
our
students,
especially
when,
when
they
came
back
biggest
challenges
for
us,
one
of
the
major
challenges
for
us
is,
you
know.
F
After
discussing,
we
felt
like
some
type
of
normalcy
or
routine
might
help
our
families
more
than
anything.
One
thing
we
know
about
our
families
is,
and
our
students
is,
if
they're
at
school,
they're
warm
they're
safe,
they
got
meals
to
eat,
and
you
know
they're
they're
around
people
that
can
you
know
they
can
obviously
take
care
and
handle
any
needs
they
might
have.
So
we
started
back
to
school
after
we
missed
10
days
of
school.
F
We
started
back
a
week
late
after
the
new
year
and
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
surrounding
counties.
We
had
students
being
bused
in
from
eight
different
counties
and
right
now
we're
busting
in
approximately
95
kids
a
day
in
our
school
district
and
some
of
the
people
you
see
in
the
room
today
that
are
other
superintendents
is
no
way
it'd
ever
be
possible
that
we
could
pull
that
off
without
their
support
and
help.
F
So
I
can't
say
enough
about
how
much
they've
done
and
the
amount
of
time
that
they
put
in
in
resources
to
be
able
to
offer
some
type
of
normalcy
and
get
those
kids
to
school
in
our
school
district
on
a
daily
basis.
So
that's
kind
of
what
we've
been
through.
It's
it's.
It's
going
to
be
a
long
haul
for
us.
F
I
know
that
each
one
of
us
were
impacted
a
little
bit
differently,
but
in
our
community
the
families
that
were
most
in
need
now
have
nothing,
because
if
you
look
and
draw
a
straight
line
through
our
community
of
the
path
the
tornado
took,
it
took
all
of
our
low
income,
housing
areas
out
and
many
of
the
low-income
rentals.
F
So
that's
been
very
difficult,
but
we're
just
putting
one
foot
in
front
of
another
and
going
day
by
day
and
trying
to
figure
out
any
way
possible
to
get
the
families
back
into
our
community
as
soon
as
we
can.
G
I'm
leonard
whalen,
I'm
the
superintendent
with
the
dawson
springs
school
district
and
our
stories
kind
of
similar
to
joe's
and
mayfield.
G
For
those
that
were
hurt,
the
worst
we
had
impalements,
we
had
trouble
getting
emergency
responders
in
because
all
the
roots
coming
into
town
from
the
main
arteries
were,
for
the
most
part
blocked,
and
we
ran
that
triage
center
throughout
the
night
and
into
the
next
day
the
penny
rail
park
state
park
opened
up
as
a
refuge
for
us
to
be
able
to
send
folks
who
basically
came
to
school
with
nothing,
they
lost
their
house,
they
lost
their
vehicles
pretty
much
all
they
had
were
the
clothes
on
their
back
and
then,
as
mr
henderson
mentioned,
we
quickly
turned
over
into
a
relief
center
where
the
donations
started
coming
in
and
kept
coming
in
and
really
were
just
overwhelmed.
G
Trying
to
organize
those
donations
which
we
did
to
where
the
folks
in
need
could
get
those.
I
personally
had
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
my
property,
but
my
my
house
is
still
there.
We
didn't
lose
anything
our
belongings
was
still
there.
G
I
have
neighbors
within
125
yards
of
my
house
that
nothing's
there
but
the
foundation
and
that's
you
know
I
guess
I
say
I'm
lucky,
but
you
makes
you
ask
yourself,
you
know
how
how
did
my
place
still
there
and
my
neighbors,
you
know
lost
everything.
G
You
know.
I
had
folks
come
from
all
over
the
state
colleagues
in
education
and
not
in
education
and
when
they
came,
I
tried
to
take
them
just
a
brief
tour
through
town,
because
I
want
them
to
put
their
eyeballs
on
what
occurred
because,
as
joe
said,
the
video
footage
you
see
and
the
photos
you
see,
they
don't
come
close
to
what
this
is
and
every
every
single
person
that
I
would
take
on
that
tour.
They
would
all
say
the
same
thing.
G
I've
never
ever
seen
anything
like
this
and
the
pictures
and
the
videos
I
thought
was
bad,
doesn't
even
remotely
touch
this
and
the
human
element
is
the
most
important
element
of
all
this:
the
mental
health
of
our
people,
our
community,
almost
20
percent
of
my
staff,
lost
everything.
They
had
now
we're
a
small
outfit
by
school
means,
but
almost
20
percent
of
my
staff
lost
their
homes
lost
their
vehicles,
lost
all
their
belongings
and
we
missed
14
days
of
school
and
we're
back
at
it
those
same
people
that
lost
it
all.
G
But
I
wanted
this
committee
to
know
we're
going
to
need
some
help,
we're
going
to
need
some
help
for
a
while.
This
is
not
going
to
be
a
one
or
two
year
deal,
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
been
thrown
out
there
to
help
and
that's
great
but
mayfield
and
dawson
springs,
and
some
of
my
other
superintendent
colleagues
we're
going
to
need
some
financial
help
from
a
seek
stabilization
standpoint
and
also
from
a
tax
base.
Stabilization
standpoint
and
that's
something
that
really
hadn't
been
touched
on
in
a
lot
of
the
discussions.
G
I've
heard
up
here
and
those
are
things
that
are
statutorily
bound.
So
we
need
special
relief
and
some
stabilization
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
back
on
our
feet
and
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
mayfield
schools
and
dawson
spring
schools
and
our
other
schools
are
viable
for
a
long
time.
So
I
thank
this
committee
for
having
us
we're
down,
but
we're
not
out
and-
and
I
can't
commend
my
staff
enough
and
all
the
staff
and
all
the
donations
and
the
folks
across
the
state
that
have
helped
us.
G
H
H
The
best
way
we
possibly
can,
and
so
we
became
a
resource
in
in
the
ways
that
were
listed
here
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
say
that
was
stated
earlier
is
just
the
the
amount
of
support
we
receive
from
districts
all
across
the
state
from
organizations
across
the
state
was
overwhelming,
but
at
the
same
time
you
felt
the
love
and
generosity
being
poured
out
on
us,
and
so
that's
been.
That
was
a
huge
encouragement
to
us
as
we
began
the
recovery
process.
H
I
would
like
to
also
reiterate
one
thing
that
lenny
said
we
are
moving
forward,
we're
we're
dealing
with
the
reality
that
we're
in
we're
trying
to
meet
social
emotional
needs,
and
we
we
can't
overstate
how
thankful
we
are
to
be
able
to
testify
to
you
and
for
what
you've
already
done
for
us
with
with
relief.
We
do
ask
that
you
keep
us
keep
in
mind
that
this
recovery
process
is
is
years
long
and
and
we
know
that
you
will
and
that's
why
you've
asked
us
to
be
here
today.
So
thank
you.
E
E
As
you
know,
we
passed
senate
bill
5
that
was
tied
in
with
house
bill
5
that
representative
heath
who's
here
with
us,
had
sponsored
and
allocated
30
million
dollars
for
education.
Now
we're
working
through
those
the
process
of
being
able
to
allocate
some
of
these
funds,
and
I
would
ask
these
two
gentlemen
to
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
more
specific
needs,
how
they
were
impacted.
E
I
know
lenny
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
taxing
structure,
but
some
of
the
other
things
that
they're
facing.
So
the
committee
has
a
good
understanding
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here.
Thank
you.
F
So,
first
of
all,
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
senate
bill
5
and
the
timeliness
of
getting
that
through.
F
I
know
there
was
30
million
allocated
in
there
that
can
be
used
for
primarily
infrastructure
wrap
around
services
and
transportation,
and
we
do
appreciate
that
and
that's
going
to
be
very
helpful,
but
in
looking
through
the
bill,
there
were
some
things
that
we
still
felt
like
that
were
obviously
major
issues
as
far
as
funding
number
one
to
this
day
since
the
tornado,
I've
lost
30
kids,
you
say:
well,
that's
not
many
excuse
me
29
kids,
you
say
well,
that's
not
many
kids,
but
if
you
looked
at
the
way
we're
funded
at
state
level,
that's
approximately
a
little
over
157
thousand
dollars.
F
Just
since
the
tornado
and
keep
in
mind,
I
said
earlier
we're
busting,
95
kids
in
a
day
that
do
not
live
in
my
district.
So
once
those
kids
are
placed
in
home
somewhere,
which
is
not
likely
in
mayfield
because
we
do
not
have
the
residents
there
for
them
to
move
to,
then
obviously
there's
going
to
be
even
more
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
I
will
not
have
to
attend
my
school
in
the
future.
So
obviously
you
say:
where
do
you
come
up
with
that
number?
Well,
it's!
F
Basically
all
the
add-ons
in
the
seek
form
that
go
above
and
beyond
the
four
thousand
dollar
base
seek
is
is
where
that
number
came
from,
so
there
will
be
more
to
come
to
there.
So
you
know
my
ass
to
this
committee
would
be.
Is
your
work
to
try
to
have
some
type
of
hold
harmless
on
the
ada
within
the
seek
formula
for
up
to
five
years?
F
And
I
know
that's
a
big
ask-
and
I
know
you
guys
are
only
your
budget's
only
two
two
years
and
I
know
you
can
only
do
so
much
from
that
perspective,
but
our
town
will
not
be
back
to
where
it
is.
You
know
before
the
tornado
in
five
years,
but
I
do
feel
like
that.
That
will
be
an
ample
time
for
us
to
at
least
have
a
plan
in
place,
moving
forward
that
we
can
still
be
able,
to
you
know,
weather
the
loss
and
and
funding,
and
that
type
thing
moving
forward.
F
The
other
thing
is
a
big
deal.
Is
the
local
revenue
pva
guy,
just
called
me
before
I
came
into
this
meeting
and
initially
I'd.
He
gave
me
a
rough
figure,
ruff
ruff
and
he's
come
back.
That
figure
is
not
as
high
as
what
he
said
before,
but
there
was
about
30
million
dollars
in
his
opinion
that
was
lost
in
assessment
value
tax
tax
base
within
my
community.
That
now
is
obviously
I'm
going
to
take
a
local
revenue
hit
on
that,
as
well
as
motor
vehicle
and
utility
tax
as
well.
F
So
there's
going
to
be
a
pretty
big
gap
with
the
local
revenues
that
you
know.
I
would
ask
that
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
help
support
our
districts
in
that,
because
I
know
many
of
our
districts
are
in
the
same
situation,
just
some
other
things,
disaster
days
or
emergency
days.
F
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
you
know
we
had
many
of
our
staff
that
were
in
there
working
hours
and
hours
in
the
supply
center,
with
the
triage,
whatever
that
might
have
been,
and
many
others
working
behind
the
scenes,
they're
on
the
phones
on
a
daily
basis,
trying
to
keep
in
touch
with
our
families
and
see
what
their
needs
are
find
them
first
make
sure
they're,
okay,
just
trying
to
take
care
of
those
families.
So
those
disaster
days,
if
could
be
granted,
would
help
offset
a
major
expense
for
our
districts.
F
Because-
and
I
know
I
talked-
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
marshall
county
because
I
know
steve's
in
the
room,
but
I've
talked
to
their
finance
officer
on
the
way
up
here
and
they
feel
like
that
750
000
in
in
salaries
and
fringes
that
they
are
going
to
have
to
pay
out
of
their
general
fund,
if
not
granted
any
emergency
or
disaster
days.
Just
because
that's
that's
extra
work
for
those
people
beyond
their
contracted
days.
So
if
granted
these
disaster
or
emergency
days,
however,
you
would
like
to
word
them.
F
They
can
use
that
as
part
of
their
contract,
and
you
know,
obviously
that
would
be
a
huge
help
to
the
districts
moving
forward.
A
few
other
things
that
I'll
throw
out
one
other
thing
I'll
throw
out.
There
is
a
lot.
You
know
my
entire
maintenance
department,
as
I
said
before,
in
transportation
department
was
destroyed.
I've
got
I've
got
a
lot
of.
We
were
well
insured,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
insurance
gaps.
You
take
about
all
of
our
buses
that
are
10
years
old
or
newer
or
full
replacement.
F
There's
no
problem,
but
being
a
small
district,
not
putting
many
miles
on
buses,
we
run
buses
up
to
18
20
years,
a
lot
of
times
and
they're
still
in
good
shape,
and
so
the
problem
I'm
running
into,
though,
is
I've
got
about
five
or
six
buses
that
are
totaled
that
are
over
10
years
old.
The
insurance
pays
you
10
grand
for
them.
You
can't
go
buy
buses
on
a
parking
lot
or
used
car
lot.
F
You've
got
to
order
new
ones
and
they're
95
000,
approximately
a
piece
so
there's,
there's
85
000
gap
for
every
bus
that
you
run
into
that
with
there's
a
lot
of
other
situations.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
any
of
those
others
that
where
we
have
some
of
those
gaps
as
well,
so
those
are
some
of
the
primary
things
that
we're
running
into
that.
We
didn't
feel
like
when
looking
at
the
language
within
senate
bill
5,
that
would
really
be
an
allowable
expenditure
under
under
that
particular
bill.
G
I
think
in
dawson
springs
joe
and
I've
talked
at
nauseum
in
the
last
several
weeks
about
this
and
and
joe's
got
a
thorough
list
and,
and
my
list
would
be
almost
identical
to
joe's
with
with
needs
and
concerns.
G
G
Of
fact,
I
think
you
guys
are
running
one
of
our
buses
that
that
we
loaned
to
joe,
just
like
all
of
my
my
fellow
superintendents
and
districts
in
western
kentucky
did,
but
the
need,
as
we
mentioned,
is
going
to
be.
There
appreciate
this
committee
hearing
this
on
the
emergency
days.
I
do
know
that
there
is
a
bill
in
process
right
now
by
my
representative,
myron
dawsett
over
in
the
house,
and
I
do
think
in
looking
at
that
bill
and
joe
you've
reviewed
that
bill
as
well.
G
E
Just
a
couple
other
things
chairman:
there
are
lots
of
ancillary
costs
associated
with
this
that
are
shared
amongst
the
districts.
I've
dealt
with
a
lot
of
our
superintendents
and
the
men
and
women
in
the
western
kentucky
area
have
worked
together
really
well
on
a
number
of
issues
well
before
this,
and
it's
really
continued
here
as
well.
Joe
was
good
enough
to
kind
of
put
together
a
list
that
I
think
I've
shared
with
you
before
and
as
an
example.
E
It's
a
I'm
amazed
at
that.
We
bus
our
kids
and
get
everybody
to
school
in
a
normal
situation
and
they're
dealing
with
kids
in
eight
different
districts.
Well,
these
superintendents
have
helped
with
this
and
they're
picking
these
kids
up
and
coordinating
drop-offs
with
mayfield
independent
to
coordinate
all
this,
that
that
has
an
additional
cost
and
time
and
capital
for
the
districts
that
are
helping
out
joe's
students.
E
So
that's
just
as
one
example
of
some
of
the
things
that
we'll
need
to
look
at,
as
as
a
committee
and
as
a
body
we
appreciate
you
having
us
here.
I
neglected
to
name
that
jeremy
roach
is
here
he's
from
caldwell
county,
where
princeton
they
were
greatly
affected.
E
I
think
they
talked
amongst
themselves
and
these
gentlemen
drew
the
short
straws
on
who
had
to
get
up
here
and
talk,
but
but
I
I
didn't
want
to
neglect
the
fact
that
that
he
was
there
too,
and
it
had
a
lot
of
the
similar
stories
that
these
two
have
had
and
because
the
direct
hit
that
they
took
through
princeton
and
greater
caldwell
county
with
that
as
well.
If
there's
any
questions
for
for
anyone,
we'd
be
happy
to
entertain
them.
E
A
Senator
howe,
thank
you.
You
couldn't
have
had
three
better
represent
representatives
here
to
talk
about
the
situation,
thank
all
of
you
all
and
the
others
that
are
here
today
in
the
audience
representative
heath.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
house
bill
5
as
well.
Some
of
the
issues
that
you
did
brought
up.
This
is,
unfortunately,
not
an
appropriation
committee,
but
we're
glad
to
hear
those-
and
you
have
voices
up
here
that
will
take
those
on.
We
do
have
a
few
questions
and
comments.
Senator
schneiders.
I
We
understand
when
you
say
ada
seek,
but
I
want
to
run
through
this
to
get
out
of
the
alphabet
soup
of
frankfurt,
so
average
daily
attendance
is
what
you're
talking
about
the
ada
and
you
get
an
allotment
based
on
what
your
snapshot.
I
think,
it's
in
september
or
october,
of
what
your
average
daily
attendance
is
and
that's
how
you're
compensated
from
the
state
at
the
seek
allotment,
which
is
4,
000
per
student
and
then
the
additional
strands
of
cara
that
give
you
other
funding.
I
So
to
that
extent,
that's
one
of
your
funding
streams.
So
you
think,
because
of
this,
each
system
that
was
impacted
you're
going
to
lose
students.
I
I
I
The
property
may
be
worth
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
so
you
lost
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
in
taxable
value.
Whatever
your
rates
are
so
you've
lost
that
funding
stream,
because
you
can't,
if
I
lost
my
home,
you
can't
tax
me
for
the
125
000
in
lost
value.
Those
are
your
two
primary
funding
streams
that
may
not
return
or
may
return
at
a
very
slow
rate.
I
That's
that's
your
real
problem
because
it's,
I
think,
it's
easy
to
understand.
Well,
we
got
to
replace
a
building.
We
need
five
million
dollars
for
a
new
bus
garage
or
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
bus,
but
you've
got
a
recurring
funding
stream
issue
that
may
take
a
few
years
to
get
back
to
or
you
may
never
get
back
to.
I
F
That
right,
yeah,
you
know
one
thing.
I
would
ask,
though,
freezing
the
ada
similar
to
what
we've
done
during
colbit
back.
I
F
1819
levels
are
what
we're
currently
using
for
for
this
school
year.
Some
of
us
there's
a
handful
of
districts
in
the
state
because
of
quite
a
bit
of
growth
during
that
time,
and
I
just
happen
to
be
one
of
those
districts
there's
10
or
12
that
are
using
actually
the
1920
numbers
and
I
won't
get
into
why
that
was.
Obviously
it
was
more
beneficial
for
me
to
do
that
because
of
significant
growth
in
our
district
when
we
had
to
make
that
decision.
F
But
one
thing
that
I
will
say
is
the
ada
is
important
to
stabilize,
in
my
mind,
for
all
of
our
districts
that
were
impacted,
but
not
the
assessment.
Value-Wise
of
that
because,
as
you
know,
there
is
a
sliding
scale
there,
the
lower
your
assessments,
the
more
support
from
the
state
level,
the
higher
your
assessments,
the
less
you
get
from
the
state,
an
equity
issue
from
years
ago.
F
G
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is
for
superintendent
henderson
and
you
may
have
stated
this
and
I
may
have
missed
it.
Have
you
put
pencil
to
paper
and
and
come
up
with
kind
of
a
grand
total
for
your
district,
not
going
forward
revenues,
but
just
the
amount
of
money
you
would
need
to
get
back
to
zero.
F
F
I
have
some
figures
that
I
sent
to
senator
howe
and
representative
heath.
Basically
I'm
showing
insurance
gaps
that
I
spoke
of
earlier
of
approximately
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
I'm
showing-
and
this
is
my
district
alone-
these
these
folks
are
impacted
differently,
I'm
showing
about
forty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
expenses.
F
F
I
can't
do
that
either
and
then
now
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
re-figure
the
property
value
tax,
the
property
value-
and
please
don't
hold
me
to
this
number.
Based
on
what
I
was
just
told
before
I
came
in
here.
The
annual
loss
in
property
value
is
going
to
be
about
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
a
year,
just
in
real
property
assessment
value
loss,
which
I
thought
was
going
to
be
much
higher
than
that.
F
So
that
was
a
good
news
when
I
got
that
phone
call
in
there
before
we
came
in
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
mention,
though,
right
now,
we
still
are
in
the
middle
of
collecting
taxes
for
the
full
school
year,
and
I
can
tell
you
right
now
that
there's
2.4
million
dollars
worth
of
taxes,
a
combination
of
franchise
tax,
real
property
and
nbr
taxes
that
have
not
been
collected
to
the
point
during
this
school
year
and
that's
2.4
million
dollars.
So
I'm
not
sure
the
collection
side
of
that
just
moving
forward.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman,
wise
mentioned
that
you
know
this
isn't
appropriations
and
revenue,
but
I
can
tell
you
this
that
there
are
several
members
on
this
committee
who
are
also
on
appropriations.
Revenue
and
and
you've
got
three
four
five
leadership
positions
on
this
committee,
both
sides
of
the
aisle
and
our
initial
bill
it.
I
think
we
always
consider
that
as
a
down
payment,
you
know
we
were.
J
We
were
going
to
keep
keep
an
open
mind,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
kind
of
you
know:
putting
bureaucracy
to
the
side
and
putting
people
first
and
taking
immediate
action.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
for
doing
that.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
sharing
with
us
your
basically
your
stories
about
the
tornadoes
and,
of
course
I
come
from
warren
county
bowling
green.
We
had
our
share
of
damage
there,
not
to
the
scale
that
you
did.
We
still
have
over
a
thousand
families
that
are
displaced.
C
F
E
F
I
was
just
before
we
came
in.
There
was
a
trailer
setting
out
front
and
we
were
able
to
walk
through
that
and
tour
that
there
at
two
o'clock
tomorrow,
the
first
one
will
be
delivered
to
mayfield
and
so
they're
in
that
process.
Right
now,.
C
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
again
for
being
here
amazing
stories
just
again:
y'all's
leadership
in
your
communities
and
just
incredible
devastation.
When
you
drive
through
it
and
see
it
with
your
own
eyes,
saw
the
same
type
of
devastation,
our
population's
much
greater,
so
the
degree
of
percentage
of
damage
to
bowling
green
was
less
a
lot
less,
but
yet
no
less
devastating
to
the
families
that
endured
it.
Thank
you.
J
Mr
sherman,
thank
you
and
again,
as
as
my
colleagues
have
said,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
senator
howe,
thanks
for
bringing
them
here
to
this
committee.
To
have
this
conversation,
you
had
a
very
specific
ask
that
I
want
to
reflect
on
briefly
and
see
if
it
is
in
the
house
bill
that
you
mentioned
and
if
it's
not,
maybe
we
get
it
in
there
or
we
alert
staff
through
this
conversation
to
make
sure
we
get
that
done,
and
that
was
around
the
disaster
emergency
days
as
part
of
those
contract
days.
G
J
Very
good,
very
appropriate
now
a
quick,
longer
term
question.
This
is
a
little
more
vexing
and
challenging
all
of
us
look
at
your
communities
and
and
the
pride
and
the
resilience
and
the
resolve
and
you'll
inspire
us.
You
really
do
the
response
is
amazing
among
your
people
and,
as
you've
indicated,
the
outpouring
of
support
across
the
commonwealth,
one
of
the
challenges,
and
obviously
we
stand
ready
to
provide
all
the
funds
that
we
can
to
assist
you
in
in
that
period
of
transition.
J
J
J
F
F
I
know
that
sounds
a
dumbfound
statement,
but
right
now
I
can
tell
you
the
immediate
things,
but
there's
going
to
be
many
needs
going
down
the
road
that
we
don't
even
foresee
coming
right
now
I
just
you
know
I
thought
about
the
other
day
is:
is
the
tragedy
that
martian
county
dealt
with
a
few
years
ago,
and
it
was
you
know
that
that
month
of
the
year
and
that
day
rolls
back
around,
I
think
about
how
that
might
impact
our
kids
from
a
mental
health
perspective,
but
you
guys
have
already
addressed
that
through
the
senate
bill
five,
but
where
we
can
use
that
wrap
around
service
for
that
mental
health
support.
F
But
things
like
that
that
right
now
you
know
we
just
we
don't
we
haven't
thought
about
or
how
that
might
impact
us
moving
forward,
but
I'm
sure
there
will
be
others,
but
thank
you.
I
A
question
you
know
this
you've
talked
about
senate
bill
5
and
people
may
wonder
what
that
is.
That
was
a
200
million
appropriation
that
we
set
out.
I
think
45
million
dollars,
one
was
for
temporary
housing.
30
was
for
education
needs
and,
to
that
extent
people
say
well,
you
put
200
million,
but
why
45?
I
Because
we
don't
really
know-
and
you
all
don't
even
know
what
the
under
other
155
may
be
used
for
in
other
areas
and
I'm
going
to
assume
there
may
be
more
or
less
that
there
may
be
needy
and
needed
because
of
our
discussion
about
ada
and
taxes
more,
but
maybe
not
now,
maybe
two
years
from
now,
maybe
three
years
from
now.
I
G
President
stivers-
I
I
can't
speak
for
for
my
colleagues,
but
I
can
tell
you
in
dawson
springs
really
since
december.
The
10th
everything
we've
done
has
been
reactionary.
We
reacted
to
the
tornado,
we
did
the
triage.
We
did
all
those
things
up
to
the
culmination
of
trying
to
get
our
students
and
our
staff
back
in
school.
So
I
mean
really
everything.
We've
done
has
just
been
looking
forward
literally
a
week
or
two.
G
I
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
gentlemen.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership,
as
others
have
stated,
got
a
taste
of
what
you
all
saw
and
what
went
on
in
your
communities
in
marshall,
and
your
leadership
is
invaluable.
Take
care
of
yourselves
you're
going
to
be
needed
for
the
long
haul.
All
of
you
that
are
here
from
those
districts,
please
make
sure
you
do
that
as
we
we
talk
about
the
future.
C
Let's
talk
about
today
in
in
what
your
needs
are
and,
let's,
if
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
structure,
do
you
all
feel
like
that?
As
as
we
have
things
set
up
now,
specifically
with
the
state
agencies,
is
the
structure
in
place
that
you
feel
like
you,
have
the
avenues
to
to
take
care
of
your
immediate
needs?
Are
there
adjustments
that
we
need
to
work
on
communication
avenues?
F
What
that
might
look
like
some
of
our
counties
that
are
actually
transporting
some
of
our
students,
weren't
ruled
or
not
emergency
disaster
areas,
so
there
has
been
some
discussion
with
them
on
how
we
would
do
that.
Does
that
need
to
be
done
any
different
because
of
that
particular
scenario,
whether
the
funding
runs
completely
through
mayfield
independent
and
I'm
invoiced
from
those
other
eight
districts.
Those
those
are
some
of
the
discussions
right
now
that
we
just
have
to
get
answers
to
you
know
and
I've.
F
Obviously,
as
soon
as
we
can,
you
know
we
need
to
start
supplementing
these
other
districts
that
are
have
you
know
myself.
I've
had
to
hire
four
extra
employees
to
make
this
happen,
and
I
know
some
of
the
other
districts
have
had
to
hire
some
employees
and
obviously
they
have
some
physical.
You
know
financial
liability
as
far
as
you
know,
the
transportation
side
of
the
the
buses
running
the
buses
as
well,
the
the
other
things.
F
The
thing
that
I
mentioned
briefly,
I
didn't
touch
on
or
go
in
depth
on
that
concerns
me
a
little
bit
is
just
the
uncollected
or
the
outstanding
taxes
not
collected
for
the
remainder
of
the
school
year,
because
that
money
obviously
is
is
we
we
use
and
and
will
need
to
use
for
this
particular
school
year,
as
well
as
some
of
the
funding
gaps
and
things
of
that
sort.
Because
I've,
you
know,
we've
got
to
start
ordering
buses
and
things
of
that
sort.
F
We
order
a
bus
right
now
we're
a
minimum
of
six
months
out
getting
a
brand
new
bus
and
we're
that's
with
kicking
us
to
the
top
of
the
list
because
of
our
situation,
if
not
it'd
be
nine
months.
So
some
of
those
are
two
of
the
things
that
I
can
see
that
are
most
pressing,
most
of
the
other
things
and
then
the
disaster
days
for
this
particular
year.
F
C
It
it
does,
have
you
all
been
able
to
access
any
of
the
the
private
donations
that
have
come
in
in
the
in
the
various
areas.
G
We've
not
in
dawson,
springs
and,
honestly,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
process
is
going
to
be
for
the
pot
of
money.
That's
out
there
now,
obviously
we'll
be
going
through
kde,
as
as
mr
henderson
said,
but
really
not
exactly
sure
how
that's
going
to
work
just
yet
and
just
lastly,
senator
carroll,
really
the
key
to
all
these
funds,
for,
from
our
perspective,
is
just
having
flexibility
and
having
the
ability
to
get
access
to.
That
is
key,
and
I
know
that's,
you
know
sometimes
difficult,
but.
C
F
We
haven't,
we
have
a
fund
that
was
set
up
from
an
alumnus,
that's
basically
run
through
our
family
resource
centers,
but
outside
of
that
we've
been
able
to
access
some
of
those
funds,
then
specifically
to
help
with
expenses
for
the
displaced
families
and
students,
and
that
type
thing,
but
outside
of
that
there's
nothing.
We've
been
able
to
access
very.
E
As
you
well
know,
there's
there's
a
process
for
everything
in
frankfurt,
but
there's
no
process
for
this.
Yet
so
we're
creating
the
pros
part
of
the
process
in
there
and
trying
trying
to
to
mr
to
senator
carroll's
point
to
to
streamline
the
process.
A
J
Okay,
I'll
keep
it
brief,
senator
howe
just
covered.
One
of
my
comments
is:
is
the
process
I
wanted
to
address.
The
senator
west
question
about
the
immediate
needs,
and
I
think
mr
henderson
mentioned
the
buses-
add
five
500
thousand
dollars
to
that
immediate
need
list,
so
they
can
get
buses
ordered.
J
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
process
through
the
conversations
I've
had
here's
my
vision
of
a
potential
process
that
we
need
to
discuss.
When
you
build
a
new
house,
you
go
to
the
bank,
you
borrow
the
money
and
there's
x
amount
of
dollars
in
in
there
for
you
to
use
as
the
needs
occur
and
as
the
house
is
being
built
you're.
J
Drawing
on
that
line
of
credit,
I
would
like
to
see
a
process
put
in
place,
so
our
education,
folks
and
and
non-education
folks
as
they
have
needs
the
money
has
been
earmarked
and
they
can
start
drawing
that
money
down
on
an
as
needed
basis
to
cover
their
expenses
on
a
month-to-month
basis,
I'll
throw
one
quick
example:
in
there
mayfield
electric
water
has
an
ask
of
24
million
dollars
and
I'll
be
glad
to
explain
in
detail
what
that
covers.
J
They
don't
need
all
24
million
dollars
in
the
next
six
months,
some
of
it
they
won't
need
for
two
years
from
now,
but
if
we
could
put
a
process
in
place
so
that
money
is
earmarked
for
them
with
specific
things,
they
can
use
it
on
and
let
that
money
be
drawn
down
as
they
need
it.
I
think
it
would
streamline
the
process.
A
C
Mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
this
bill.
This
is
a
subject
that
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
something
that
is
included
in
part
of
my
mission
in
being
here
in
frankfurt,
and
that
is
to
advocate
for
those
with
special
needs.
This
bill
has
to
do
with
the
work
ready,
scholarship
in
kentucky
and
the
community.
C
The
comprehensive
transition
post-secondary
program-
and
many
of
you
all
have
heard
me
talk
about
this.
This
is
the
college
post-secondary
program
for
students
with
intellectual
disabilities
that
helps
to
allow
these
students
to
attend
college
for
the
purpose
of
employment
in
the
long
run.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do,
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
let
mr
colette
kind
of
explain
the
program
briefly,
so
those
that
are
not
familiar
with
this
program
will
understand
what
it
is.
We're
trying
to
do.
K
Thank
you
senator
carol
and
chairman
wise
in
committee.
Comprehensive
transition
and
post-secondary
programs
are
higher
education
programs
for
students
with
intellectual
disabilities.
So
these
are
programs
that
have
been
through
an
approval
process
with
the
united
states
department
of
education
and,
as
a
result
of
that,
they
can
offer
access
to
federal
student
aid.
These
programs
were
approved
with
the
last
authorization
of
the
higher
education
act
back
in
2008
and
what
these
programs
do
is
they?
K
Like
this,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
the
general
assembly
support
of
this
work
in
the
last
two
state
budgets
very
briefly-
there
are
currently
three
kentucky
comprehensive
transition
and
post-secondary
programs
or
ctps
those
are
at
northern
kentucky
university,
murray
state,
university
and
bluegrass
community
and
technical
college.
There
are
several
other
colleges
and
universities
across
the
commonwealth,
who
are
various
stages
of
interest
in
terms
of
establishing
a
program
like
this
and
we're
working
closely
with
them
to
provide
the
information
that
they
need.
K
They're,
currently
16
students
enrolled
across
these
comprehensive
transition
and
pro
pro-secondary
programs
in
kentucky
and
since
2010,
these
programs
have
served
nearly
100
students
now
those
100
students,
nearly
6-0
percent
of
those
students,
have
completed
the
program.
Now,
what
might
be
an
interesting
comparison,
and
I
think
I'm
right
about
these
numbers
if
we
look
at
2019-20
at
the
six-year
graduation
rate
at
four-year
public
universities
was
just
over
56
percent.
K
So
when
we
take
a
look
at
students
with
intellectual
disabilities
entering
these
programs,
it
appears
that
they
have
a
comparable
persistence
rate
for
the
particular
courses
of
study
in
which
they're
engaged.
As
you
know,
the
general
assembly
took
similar
action
of
what
is
to
what
is
requested
in
senate
bill
94
back
in
2013
and
again
in
2016,
with
respect
to
the
keys
program
and
I'll
just
say
from
a
personal
perspective
of
being
here
for
many
years
and
doing
work
sort
of
a
360
view
of
this
work.
In
my
own
personal
life.
K
I'm
proud
of
our
state's
work
over
the
years
to
remove
barriers
for
students
with
disabilities,
including
students
with
intellectual
disabilities,
and
I
look
forward
to
even
more
ways
that
we
can
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we
increase
those
opportunities
for
success
in
academics,
employment
and
community
engagement
with
that.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
C
Mr
chairman,
just
the
the
basic
point
of
the
bill
is
to
allow
these
students
access
to
the
work
ready
scholarship.
It
ties
it
into
the
ctp
program,
the
standards
it
gives
three
years
for
those
students
to
complete
the
program,
and
it's
important
that
you
understand
that
this
program
is
geared
towards
those
students
gaining
employment.
C
C
We
have
to
make
sure
that
there
are
employment
opportunities
outside
of
sheltered
workshops
for
these
folks,
and
this
is
a
step
that
will
allow
that
to
happen
for
students
coming
out
of
high
school
and
give
them
the
college
experience,
and
so
we,
we
are
very
excited
about
this,
and
I
we
have
support.
We
took
the
time
to
meet
with
all
the
stakeholders
in
this
effort
to
make
sure
that
there
were
no
issues,
and
I'm
going
to
let
ms
barber
speak
to
that.
Just
a
second.
J
Yes,
as
I
say,
our
agency
kentucky
higher
education
administers
these
programs
and
we
are
fully
supportive
of
this
bill.
We
think
it's
a
good
policy
helpful
for
the
students
and
it's
a
it's
a
very
well
targeted
and
well
drafted
bill,
and
we
think
that
there's
the
cost
associated
with
it
is
very
reasonable
and
it's
well
worth
the
money
spent.
So
we
we
have
no
issues
with
it
whatsoever.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
senator
carroll.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
the
work
ready
scholarships.
If
I'm
cur.
My
memory
serves
me
right.
That's
last
dollar:
whatever
the
student
doesn't
qualify
for
federal
federal
aid-wise
and
the
the
work
rate,
scholarship
picks
up
the
last
dollar
and,
and
would
I
be
correct
in
assuming
that
the
majority
of
the
cost
of
this
program
be
paid
but
with
federal
dollars
that
most.
C
Students,
well
the
the
the
ctp
program.
Is
these:
these
students
have
access
to
the
same
funding.
They
do
a
fafsa
pell
grants
whatever
would
be
available
to
a
traditional
student
so
and
then
the
these
students
pay
for
college,
like
everyone
else
does.
C
There
is
a
hope
at
some
point
in
the
future
that
there
can
be
some
funding
to
help
with
other
costs,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
expand
this
program,
but
transportation
issues
sometimes
arise,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
it
continues
to
grow
but
understand
this
is
revenue
for
our
colleges
and
universities,
just
like
any
other
student
and
these
students
go
through
the
same
process
as
as
was
mentioned.
They
they
they
have
the
keys
dollars
available.
C
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
a
good
bill.
I
commend
you
senator
carl
on
bringing
it
forward.
That's
a
quick
question.
Just
curiosity,
really
in
terms
of
the
program
you've
indicated
that
you
have
like
a
60
graduation
rate.
Is
that
correct.
L
K
I
can
tell
you
that
very
often,
these
students
sometimes
even
stay
on
campus
working
where
they
had
internships
while
they
were
in
the
program,
and
certainly
there
are
great
stories
from
murray,
northern
and
beasts
more
in
murray
and
northern
specifically
bctc
has
really
been
in
a
relaunch
mode,
the
last
couple
of
years
and
doing
very
well,
but
there
are
great
stories
of
post-school
outcomes
there
that
are
very
positive.
One.
L
More
question,
if
I
may
do
these
programs,
or
is
it
common
for
these
schools
to
actually
assist
the
students
when
they
come
out
of
these
programs
to
transition
from
the
program.
C
And
if
I
might
answer
that
there
is
support
where
it
through
ovr
that
it
goes
into
an
employment
support
situation
and
these
students
do
internships
as
part
of
the
program
and
so
there
there
is
support
past
that
to
ensure
that
the
employment
is
successful.
Good
program.
C
And
I
I
do
want
to
mention
senator
dennis
parrott
senator
parrott.
One
of
the
first
things
I
did
when
I
got
to
frankfort
seven
years
ago
was
went
and
shook
his
hand.
He
had
a
bill
that
in
high
school
that
created
the
alternate
diploma
for
students-
and
I
think
all
of
this
has
kind
of
grown
out
of
that.
I
know
there
are
many
here
that
supported
that
legislation,
but
it
has
grown
each
year
and
we
we
keep
trying
to
expand
those
opportunities.
C
These
folks
are
a
viable
part
of
our
workforce
in
the
commonwealth
and
they
can
have
such
a
positive
impact
impact
on
their
employment,
their
their
colleagues
their
co-workers.
So
there
are
many
opportunities
for
for
these
folks
to
contribute
to
this
commonwealth,
and
I
think
this
is
another
program
that
will
expand
their
opportunities
for
post-secondary.
C
A
M
A
Aye
by
vote
of
13
yay
zero
nays,
the
bill
passes
senate
bill
94
moves
on.
Thank
you,
senator
carroll.
I'm
going
to
assume
my
position
from
up
here
and
move
on
to
senate
bill
61.
senate
bill.
61
is
an
act
relating
to
early
high
school
graduation.
I
am
the
bill
sponsor
of
this
basically
senate
bill.
61,
in
essence,
is
a
cleanup
bill
to
clean
up
some
obsolete
statutory
requirements
as
it
relates
to
early
high
school
graduation.
A
If
you
look
at
the
bill
that's
presented
in
your
packet,
it
will
eliminate
the
requirement
for
benchmarks
of
some
obsolete,
end-of-course
examinations.
It
also
really
eliminates
the
reference
or
scoring
benchmarks
on
the
specific
act,
examination
and
then
lastly
requires
early
high
school,
graduation
requirements
and
future
revisions
to
be
established
in
administrative
regs
promulgated
by
the
kentucky
board
of
education.
A
A
By
a
vote
of
12
years,
zero
nays
the
bill
passes
senate
bill.
61
moves
on
our
last
bill
on
the
agenda
for
today
is
senate
bill
60..
It's
an
act
relating
to
preschool
and
I
am
the
sponsor
of
that
bill.
It
does
have
a
committee
sub.
The
committee
sub
is
in
your
folders.
A
There
was
a
committee
sub
that
was
sent
electronically
yesterday,
but
there
have
been
changes
that
were
made
to
the
committee
sub
as
it
came
to
the
members
this
morning,
real
briefly
senate
bill
60,
it
deleted
section,
1,
subsection,
6g,
but
based
on
input
from
multiple
stakeholders
and
with
also
the
endorsement
of
the
head
start
director
john
mount
joy.
The
committee
sub
does
the
following:
it
continues
to
allow
the
head
start
director
to
initially
certify
whether
the
head
start
program
is
fully
utilized.
A
However,
if
the
superintendent
and
the
head
start
director
are
unable
to
reach
an
agreement
or
whether
a
head
start
program
is
fully
utilized
either
the
superintendent
or
the
head
start
director
shall
notify
the
commissioner
of
education
and
within
30
days
of
the
notification,
the
commissioner
shall
review
the
details
as
presented
by
the
head
start
director
and
shall
make
a
determination
of
whether
a
head
start
program
is
fully
utilized
and
the
commissioner
may
certify
full
utilization
on
behalf
of
head
start
now,
you're,
probably
asking
senator
wise.
Why
did
you
bring
this
bill
to
us
this
morning?
A
Well,
it's
for
better
collaboration.
There
are
programs
across
the
commonwealth
that
are
working
extremely
well
with
preschool
and
head
start.
However,
we
do
have
some
programs
that
need
better
cooperation
and
with
this
it
provides
that
collaboration
to
improve
and
one
of
the
things
that
many
times
we
forget
about
up
here.
A
N
N
It
seems
to
me
that
if
we
can
provide
for
universal
pre-k,
which
was
in
the
governor's
budget
and
again,
I
don't
know
how
much
consideration
that
received
in
house
bill
1
if
at
all,
is
now
over
here
and
we
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
make
some
improvements
on
it.
If
we,
if
we're
going
to,
provide
and
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
universal
pre-k
to
all
children,
then
then
the
language
of
this
bill
seems
very
limiting
to
my
respect
and
that's
my
biggest
concern
with
house
bill.
60.
N
A
Thank
you
senator.
I
appreciate
I
know:
we've
had
this
discussion
before
it's
not
an
appropriation
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
bill,
but
just
more
of
a
collaboration
and
more
of
improvement
upon
working
relationships
between
all
parties
are
involved,
and
I
will
say
this
bill
was
vetted
through
the
labor
cabinet
and
the
economic
development
workforce.
It
was
vetted
also
with
the
eyes
of
the
community
action
councils,
as
well
as
preschool
in
the
head
start
programs.
A
So
I
do
think
we
brought
a
lot
of
people
to
the
table
with
the
bill.
As
it's
presented,
we
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
sub
by
senator
gibbs.
We
have
a
second
from
senator
stivers,
all
those
in
favor
of
adopting
the
sub.
Please
do
so
by
saying
aye
all
those
opposed.
Thank
you.
Senator
gibbons
next
question.
Senator
higdon.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
to
comment.
I
know
you've
done
some
work,
a
lot
of
work
on
this
bill
and
thank
you
for
this
committee
sub
and
the
changes
that
you've
made
so
far.
I
think
that
that
answers
a
lot
of
the
questions,
but
this
is
a
process
and
if
there's
further
questions,
there's
other
places
along
the
way
that
we
can
correct
them,
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
work
with
us
on
this.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank.
A
You
senator
higdon
senator
harper
angel.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is:
does
senate
bill
60
prevent
fully
utilizing
federal
funds
and
if
so,
why
would
we
do
that.
A
M
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
mentioned
the
labor
cabinet
head,
start
director
and
so
forth,
but
I
want
to
get
a
better
handle
on
what
is
the
issue
outside
of
the
institutional
representation?
What's
the
issue
on
a
ground-level
basis
that-
and
this
might
be
a
little
bit
rhetorical,
but
not
entirely
so
that
we
all
have
a
better
handle
on
what
has
happened
in
one
of
these
or
two
or
three
of
these
places
that
we
can
all
get
our
heads
around.
Does
this
solve
it.
A
Unfortunately,
sometimes
we
need
people
to
come
to
the
table,
to
force
them
to
talk
and
to
resolve
issues.
So
there's
been
problems.
I've
been
made
aware
of
issues
from
school
superintendents
from
members
in
the
legislature.
A
legislative
body.
Excuse
me
about
issues
pertaining
to
this.
As
I
mentioned,
a
large
percentage
are
working
very,
very
well,
but
we
also
have
some
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
collaboration,
that's
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
our
children
and
we
need
adults
and
those
in
the
system
to
work
together
to
collaborate
better.
A
I
would
ask
if,
if
miss
price
is
in
the
audience,
if
she
would
like
to
make
her
way
to
the
table
for
testimony
as
we
wait
for
senator
carroll's
question
ms
price
you're.
More
than
welcome
to
first
identify
yourself
for
the
record
please
and
proceed
with
any
testimony
that
you
may
have
microphones.
O
My
name
is
sharon
price,
I'm
with
community
action
agencies
who
represent
head
start
programs,
and
so
I've
prepared
some
remarks
today
to
kind
of
keep
me
on
track
so
that
I
didn't
forget
anything
that
I
wanted
to
say
to
you
guys,
and
so
today
has
been
very
interesting.
O
Listening
to
all
of
the
testimony,
we've
talked
about
working
together,
we've
talked
about
disasters,
we've
talked
about
covet
and
community
action
agencies
and
head
start
programs
and
school
districts
know
very
well
about
all
of
the
effects
that
are
going
to
happen
or
predicted
to
happen
with
children
due
to
the
global
pandemic
that
we've
just
gone
gone
through
during
this
time.
Those
two
bodies
have
worked
hand
in
hand
on
the
front
lines.
At
the
beginning
of
this
pandemic.
O
They
found
a
way
to
work
together
to
do
every
single
thing
that
was
in
the
best
interest
of
children
and
families
in
their
communities
all
across
kentucky,
I'm
thinking
if
they
can
find
a
way
to
get
along
during
the
most
desperate
times
and
find
a
way
to
collaborate,
because
that's
what
this
is
all
about.
It's
all
about
collaborations,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
the
benefits
of
early
childhood
education.
O
It
didn't
doesn't
mean
that
every
partnership
is
going
to
be
easy,
but
every
partnership
is
valuable.
We
heard
everybody
talk
about
that
today,
the
superintendents
that
set
up
here
and
said
that
they
relied
on
each
other.
Those
are
partnerships,
the
community
action
agencies
that
are
in
those
areas
with
those
head
start
programs
that
were
out
there
caring
for
those
children
and
families
in
the
middle
of
this
disaster
that
happen,
those
are
partnerships
and
partnerships
are
not
always
easy,
but
they're
vital
the
full
utilization.
Why
is
this
important?
O
O
O
That's
why
that
full
utilization
agreement
is
so
important
for
us
now,
because
if
the
school
district
is
doing
something
head
start
doesn't
want
to
do
that.
We
want
to
collaborate
so
that
everything
works
seamlessly
seamlessly
together.
That's
what
this
is
all
about:
no
duplication,
but
also
spend
the
federal
dollars.
First
before
you
spend
the
state
dollars
maximize
the
dollars
that
are
coming
into
our
communities,
we
have
people
that
can't
get
along.
O
O
It
can't
be
the
school
system,
because
if
the
authority
is
the
problem,
where
one
has
authority
over
the
other,
then
we
might
as
well
leave
it
the
way
that
it
is,
I
respectfully
ask
you
guys
to
consider
using
maximizing
state
dollars
continuing
to
have
the
language
in
using
a
joint
certification
and
then
having
a
third
party.
That
is
not
the
chief
state
officer
of
education.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
it.
I
respect
your
comments
fully
and
in
the
bill.
Once
again,
the
goal
is
to
improve
upon
the
collaboration,
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
there
and
I
think
the
sub
is
going
to
help
in
terms
of
enhancing
that
head
start
director
position
and
the
role
in
the
decision
making
when
we
get
into
a
mediator
or
third
party
we're
dealing
with
some
hypotheticals
we're
dealing
with.
How
do
we
select
that
third
party?
A
How
was
the
process
for
that
we're
getting
into
something
that's
more
of
a
layover
bureaucracy
of
going
through
a
proper
kind
of
chain
that
can
be
put
into
place?
That's
my
only
rebuttal
to
you
know.
Looking
at
the
third
party,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
work
with
community
action
council,
I
think
you
can.
I
see
some
non
head
shaking.
Yes,
because
I've
done
that
to
this
step
of
the
bill,
I
will
continue
to
listen
and
continue
to
collaborate,
the
best
that
I
can
as
the
bill
sponsor,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
testimony
for
today.
A
N
And
full
disclosure
to
everyone.
Last
year,
ms
price
and
I
worked
through
the
mayor's
office
on
creating
an
early
childhood
program
or
advocating
for
early
childhood
program
through
the
mayor's
racial
diversity
equity
task
force.
So
I
know
ms
price
very
well.
I
know
her.
She
does
an
excellent
job
as
head
of
the
head
start
program
and
community
action
there
in
fayette
county.
So
it's
good
to
see
you
again,
mr
price.
O
N
Be
more
formal
here,
miss
price,
as
you
well
know,
the
governor
has
advocated
for
an
early
childhood
program.
That's
universally
applied
to
all
students.
N
How
do
you,
how
do
you
and
this
this
is
this
question
for
my
own
notification?
How
do
you
see
that
working
in
conjunction
with
head
starter
can
can
the
two
coexist,
because
head
start
is
limited
to
to
those
students
who
are
educationally
educationally
disadvantaged,
whereas
the
governor's
proposal
for
our
early
childhood
would
be
universal
to
all
students,
irregardless
or
irrespective
of
income.
O
O
Currently,
in
a
lot
of
the
school
districts,
you
have
double
session
classrooms
that
are
happening
two
and
a
half
hours
a
day
in
the
morning
two
and
a
half
hours
a
day
in
the
evening.
So
if
you
do
that
universal
pre-k,
universal
pre-k
and
it's
not
full
day
it
and
it
is
full
day,
then
where
are
those
children
going
to
go?
But
when
we
worked
on
that
project
together,
I
think
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
working
together.
O
It's
going
to
take
the
school
districts,
it's
going
to
take
the
head
start
programs,
and
it's
going
to
take
the
child
development
centers
that
we
know
have
been
critical
in
people
going
back
to
work.
All
of
that
is
going
to
have
to
work
as
a
complete
unit
and
I'll
tell
you
this
there
is.
I
received
an
email
yesterday
there
is
funding
coming
down
the
pike
for
the
school
districts,
grants
coming
down
the
pipe
for
the
school
districts
to
partner
with
the
head
start
programs
in
early
childhood
education.
O
That
means
that
that
possibility
and
that
relationship
still
has
to
be
there.
There
is
room
at
the
end
for
everybody.
Everybody
just
needs
to
be
willing
to
work
together
to
make
it
happen.
We
know
that
where
a
child
lives
to
not
influence
their
trajectory
in
their
life,
where
children
are,
they
can
learn
where
they
are,
they
can
learn
where
they
are.
We
do
a
lot
of
things
that
I
would
do
quite
differently
to
be
honest
with
you
senator
thomas.
O
We
spend
money
on
transporting
children,
children
go
to
child
development
centers.
Then
they
get
on
a
bus
and
they
go
to
the
preschool
program.
Then
they're
there
for
two
and
a
half
hours
and
they
go
back
to
the
child
care
center.
All
of
that
for
for
three
and
four-year-old
children.
They
have
rules
here.
They
have
rules
there.
If
we
would
take
it
and
we
would
stabilize
children
and
keep
them
where
they
are
and
have
the
head
start
programs,
the
school
districts
and
the
child
care
centers
all
working
together,
we
could
get
this
done.
A
A
B
D
I
vote
I
can
explain
my
vote.
Please.
D
L
I
vote
I,
but
I
would
like
to
encourage
the
sponsor
of
the
legislation
to
discuss
this
further
regarding
this
particular
issue
and
possibly
explore
entertain
and
amendment
not
move
it
too
fast
through
the
process,
so
it
can
be
get
more
thoughtful
consideration.
I
I
hesitate
just
a
little
bit
because
I
know
the
intentions
are
good
and
I
heard
what
you
said
and
I
agree
there
has
to
be
collaboration
so
forth.
I'm
not
sure
the
mechanics
in
terms
of
the
language
here
sets
up
the
result.
L
That's
going
to
get
us
where
we
want
to
be,
I
don't
know
really,
but
I'm
I'm
encouraging
you
to
reach
out
and
and
discuss
this
further
and
see
if
we
can
do
more
with
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
A
M
M
You
can't
assign
responsibilities
and
people
can't
take
responsibility
for
their
areas
and,
frankly
I
actually
don't
know-
and
I
had
another
question
I
was
going
to
ask,
but
I
know
the
hour
is
late
and
generally
it
looks
like
we're,
maybe
heading
in
the
right
direction,
but
who's
the
head
of
this
who's,
the
right
person
to
address
this
needs
to
be.
I
don't
really
know,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
get
something
down
on
paper.
So
this
is
obviously
a
start.
N
This
much
I
do
know,
I
know
the
sponsors
bill
center
wise
and
I
know
the
person
testified
today.
Ms
price
they're,
both
well-intentioned
well
honorable
people.
Obviously
there's
a
problem
here.
You
know
I
have
been
a
very
strong
advocate
of
early
child
education,
but
obviously
there's
there
there's
a
lot
more.
That
needs
to
be
worked
out
than
I'm
than
I
have
knowledge
of.
At
this
point,
I
think
we
need
to
move
the
process
forward
because
I
because
I
know
them
as
both
world
intentions-
honorable
people
I'm
on
vote.