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A
A
Okay,
we
do
have
a
quorum,
so
we're
doing
constituted
a
bit
to
do
business.
I
I
would
if
we
were
doing
trivia,
I
would
ask
if
you
knew
what
day
it
is,
but
it's
a
manufacturing
day
at
the
capitol
today,
and
so
we
want
to
welcome
all
of
our
manufacturers
out
there.
We
also
have
with
us,
I
think
today
we
have
chris
driver
who's
chairman
of
the
kentucky
association
of
manufacturers.
A
Is
that
correct,
right
and
then
also
frank,
ginley,
who's,
the
executive
director
so
and
other
people
too
numerous
to
mention
like
rusty
and
others
so
anyway,
glad
to
have
you
all
this
morning?
We
only
have
one
bill
today,
so
we
don't
expect
it's
been
to
last
too
long.
It's
house
bill,
45,
representative
bowling.
C
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
house
bill
45
today.
This
is
a
piece
of
legislation,
I'm
very
excited
about,
because
it
could
help
spur
economic
growth
while
at
the
same
time
helping
to
reduce
plastic
waste
a
win-win
opportunity.
We
don't
often
see
the
bill
simply
provides
for
transparent
rules
for
a
new
type
of
technology
that
actually
breaks
plastic
waste
back
into
the
molecules
the
plastic
is
con
is
composed
of
in
a
process
that
we're
calling
advanced
recycling.
C
This
process
is
more
akin
to
a
manufacturing
process,
so
it
defines
these
facilities
as
manufacturers,
rather
than
solid
waste
facilities,
and
it
also
establishes
the
rules
and
guidelines
and
definitions
that
these
technologies
and
what
processes
would
be
used.
We
are
already
seeing
big
investments
in
other
states
that
have
passed
similar
legislation.
C
Eastman
chemical
in
kingsport,
tennessee
they've
had
an
investment
of
a
250
million
dollar
facility
in
the
past
18
months.
C
We
heard
this
bill
for
information
only
last
session
since
that
time,
the
energy
environment
cabinet
requested
that
two
minor
changes
be
made
in
the
bill
and
those
are
incorporated
in
the
current
version.
In
addition,
the
kentucky
resources
council
and
the
american
forest
and
paper
association
requested
modifications
and
those
are
those
are
reflected
in
the
committee
substitute.
A
G
Thank
you
chairman,
just
one
question
representative
just
so
I'm
I'm
clear
what
are
the?
What
are
the
original
bill
and
the
committee
substitute.
C
There
were,
there
were
three
changes:
two
of
them
were
further
defining
the
processes
and
we
can
get
those
pages
rusty
can
get
you
more
information
on
it.
Then
there
was
also
a
section
added
at
the
end.
In
section
three,
there
were
some
folks
concerned
that
there
might
be
a
cost
fact,
a
cost
factor
with
tax
credits,
and
this
bill
would
not
affect
those
at
all.
There
was
kind
of
a
conversation
going
back
and
forth
with
some
folks
about
you
know:
would
these
tax
credits
apply?
F
On
page
11,
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
page
11
on
the
committee
sub,
but
it's
subparagraph
55,
the
definition
of
advanced
recycling.
We
added
the
sentence
at
the
end.
That
makes
it
clear
that
if
you're
converting
the
post-use
polymer
into
a
fuel
substitute
for
the
use
in
energy
production
that
it's
not
considered
advanced
recycling.
G
Thank
you
so
much
and
not
in
the
bill
but
representative.
Just
to
the
question
of
the
the
powerpoint
is
that
the
one
that
was
presented
last
session
yesterday.
C
H
Mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
good
morning,
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
just
to
follow
up
on
for
representative
scott
and
first,
let
me
express
my
appreciation
both
to
representative
bowling
for
carrying
the
bill
and
also
to
rusty,
who
is
a
colleague
and
a
friend
of
many
years
for
his
flexibility
in
adding
a
couple
of
provisions
that
address
concerns
that
I
had
to
underscore
the
need
for
the
bill.
H
There
are
only
about
nine
percent
of
plastics
that
are
utilized
in
the
marketplace
are
recycled
and
the
rest
of
them
are
either
going
to
legal
disposal
filling
up
our
landfills
or
end
up
in
places
because
of
illegal
disposal.
We're
all
familiar
with
the
ocean
plastic
issue,
and
so
those
what
russia
had
asked
for
is
that
the
manufacturing
processes
that
utilize
these
these
post-consumer
plastics
by
depolymerizing
them
and
making
them
available
as
feedstock,
be
treated
like
other
manufacturing
facilities.
And
I
think
that's
a
legitimate
point.
H
The
there
were
two
concerns
I
had
that
were
addressed.
If
you
look
at
the
definition
of
disposal,
it
no
longer
exempts
advanced
recycling
so
that
any
wastes
that
are
generated
by
the
processing
of
plastics
and
any
waste
that
are
generated
by
the
manufacturing
are
both
covered.
The
way
that
wastes
have
always
been
covered,
there's
no
exemption
there
from
the
resource
conservation
recovery
act.
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
that
have
raised
concerns
that
there's
an
exemption
from
rickra
for
any
hazardous
waste
or
solid
waste.
That's
that's
not
the
case.
H
H
The
second
point
is,
there
is
already
an
exemption
for
for
material
processing
facilities
that
says
that
they
are
otherwise
subject
to
regulation
by
the
cabinet
for
nuisances
and
for
you
know,
for
other
off-site
impacts,
and
we
simply
moved
a
phrase
in
the
definite
in
one
of
the
definitions
to
make
it
clear
that,
although
we
are
saying
that
that
use
of
this
material
for
recycling
is
not
waste
management,
that
the
cabinet
still
retains
full
authority
to
regulate
any
adverse
environmental
impacts,
including
nuisance
impacts.
H
So
we
we,
I
think,
the
bill
the
committee
sub
strengthens
the
bill
and
it
it
just
makes
more
clear
what
it
the
intent
is
and
what
the
intent
isn't,
and
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
give
it
a
positive
response,
because
I
think
it
is.
It
opens
a
potential
avenue
for
further
utilization
of
waste
plastics
that
are
now
just
being
land
filled
or
otherwise.
Disposed
of.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
E
I'll
just
have
a
question.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
was
really
excited
when
I
heard
about
this
plastic
recycling
bill.
I
had
suggested
in
the
past
to
our
county
to
start
a
plastic
recycling
program.
You
know
it
was
a
it's
an
it's
a
fantastic
idea.
We
see
so
much
plastic
in
eastern
kentucky
with
where
most
people
buy
bottled
water
and
drink
the
bottled
water,
and
then
you
have
all
the
plastic
waste.
E
I
was
discussing
it
with
a
lady
that
was
over
the
pride
board
in
pike
county
and
she
was
talking
about
that.
They
had
tried
some
recycling
projects
in
the
past,
but
the
cost
got
so
astronomical
that
it
just
wasn't
feasible.
Can
you
elaborate
on
how
this
would
how
we
could
do
this
to
make
it
financially
feasible
for
our
county
to
get
involved
in
a
plastic
recycling
project.
C
Sure,
and
as
you
just
heard,
mr
fitzgerald
say-
I
think
nine
percent
was
the
number
right
now
that
the
plastics,
so
I
mean
this-
opens
up
another
market
for
plastics.
Those
numbers
I
gave
you
as
far
as
eight
facilities,
78
million
dollars
in
economic
output
and
360
000
tons
of
plastics
diverted
from
landfills.
C
That
is
only
if
we
capture
20
of
the
plastics
in
use
right
now,
so
a
lot
of
the
recycling
that
what
we've
done
in
the
past
is
mechanical
recycling
and
that's
the
actual
taking
of
plastics
and
then
shredding
it
and
using
it
as
a
as
a
filler
material
in
yoga,
pants
in
hat
bills,
and
things
like
that.
So
this
opens
up
another
market
to
where
it
takes
every
plastic
out
there
and
puts
it
back
down
to
its
molecular
level,
and
then
those
plastics
can
be
sold
for
people
to
reuse.
C
Again
and
again,
this
water
bottle
right
here
that
rusty
has
that's
a
product
of
advanced
recycling,
so
it
it.
It
opens
up
a
lot
larger
market
and
you
know,
would
give
counties
another
opportunity
to
get
economic.
You
know,
I
guess,
have
an
economic
line
to
put
this
technology
in
place
and
to
put
recycling
in
place
in
their
counties.
F
If
I
may
add
representative,
I
would
certainly
think
to
be
a
wise
thing
to
do.
Is
contact
the
energy
and
environment
cabinet
folks
and
see
what
kind
of
grants
are
available
to
get
seed
money
started
on
something
like
that.
Tom
may
know
exactly
where
that
money
is,
but
I'm
I'm
not
familiar,
but
they're,
very
approachable
there
and.
D
F
A
Any
other
questions
we
have
a
motion
path
for
passage
of
house
bill.
45
is
amended
by
house
committee
substitute.
We
asked
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
Please.