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A
Welcome
everyone
to
the
second
meeting,
the
house
standing
committee
on
small
business
information
technology
of
the
2023
session,
a
special
Welcome
to
our
new
committee
members
and
staff
members
joining
us.
This
session
we
have
Daniel
gosberg,
Kim,
King,
Nima,
Carney,
Savannah,
Maddox,
Sarah,
stalker,
Susan
Whitton,
and
our
new
staff
person
is
Brett
Gillespie
who's,
trying
to
keep
me
in
line
but
where
he
pulls
hair
out
before
we
get
started.
A
B
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
I'm,
Kim,
King
I,
live
in
Mercer
County
and
serve
Jasmine
Mercer
in
Washington
County
in
Kentucky's.
55Th
I
was
previously
previously
on
this
wonderful
committee
and
worked
in
other
areas
for
a
while
and
it's
wonderful
to
be
back.
Small
business
is
the
backbone
of
our
economy
and
I
look
forward
to
being
part
of
those
conversations.
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
thank.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
I'm
state
representative
Nima
kulkarnia
I
represent
District
40
in
Jefferson
County,
which
includes
part
of
the
University
of
Louisville
Churchill
Downs
parts
of
Shively.
So
it's
right
in
the
right
in
the
middle
of
Jefferson
and
I
have
had
my
own
law
practice
for
the
past
12
years,
which
nobody
in
law
school
tells.
You
is
mainly
just
running
a
small
business
and
I
agree
with
representative
King.
This
is
the
backbone
of
our
economy,
Nationwide
and
in
Kentucky,
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
I
think,
just
I,
don't
think
I
missed
you
much
new
on
the
committee
before
we
get
started,
I'd
like
to
go
over
a
few
reminders.
Please
sell
cell
phones
at
this
time.
If
you'd
like
to
speak,
please
use
assignment
sign
sheet
in
the
entrance
to
the
room.
The
requested
speaker
within
the
chair's
discretion
based
upon
time
restraints
for
this
meeting
information
already
presented.
Just
a
reminder.
No
signs
are
permitted
in
this
room.
If
any
member
has
a
question
comment,
please
signal
to
Brett
or
Aubry
and
let
we'll
put
let's
speak
clerk.
D
B
E
A
F
Thank
you,
I'm
Megan,
sanfis
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
new
office
of
broadband
development.
I
previously
worked
for
18
years
at
the
Northern
Kentucky
area.
Development
District,
so
I
have
spent
my
career
working
with
state
and
local
government
and
excited
for
this
new
role
here
with
the
state
on
this
exciting
program
that
we
are
working
on
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
where
we
are
on
that.
F
So
since
September
I've
been
meeting
with
stakeholders
and
managing
our
first
round
of
grants
that
were
issued
last
summer-
and
that
includes
the
poll
replacement
program
that
opened
in
September
that
was
funded
through
arpa,
those
two
rounds
of
Grants
were
both
funded
through
the
arpa
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
funds.
F
We
put
up
our
website,
which
is
where
we
are
keeping
all
of
our
information
right
now,
is
still
a
work
in
progress,
as
we
add
to
it,
and
we
have
been
working
on
Staffing
up
the
office.
I've
hired
one
additional
employee
and
I've
got
additional
positions
in
progress,
and
we
have
also
contracted
with
connected
Nation
for
planning,
mapping
and
staff
augmentation,
and
they
are
a.
F
So
since
I
started,
we've
had
our
bead
initial
planning.
Funds
awarded
and
b
stands
for
Broadband
Equity
access
and
deployment
program,
that
is
through
the
ntia,
which
is
the
national
telecommunications
and
Information
Administration,
which
is
an
agency
of
the
Department
of
Commerce.
F
This
was
the
bead
program
as
part
of
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
and
we
are
working
on
that.
So
we
also
had
recently
our
capital
projects
fund
plan
approved
by
treasury,
which
is
arpa
funds.
It's
182
million
dollars
for
deployment
projects.
F
In
January
we
submitted
over
15
000,
fixed
availability
challenges
to
the
FCC
map.
That
was
locations
where
the
map
showed
there
were
service,
but
we
had
evidence
that
we
provided
to
the
FCC
that
that
was
not
the
case
and
that's
a
pretty
average
number
for
states
to
have
submitted
that
you
know.
There's
some
that
are,
you
know
very
high
and
some
that
didn't
submit
challenges
at
all,
but
I
think
15,
like
15
to
20
000
was
was
pretty
average.
F
So
if
each
of
those
addresses
is
is
accepted
as
a
challenge-
and
you
know-
and
we
and
we
win
that
could
be,
you
know
an
extra
like
say
two
thousand
dollars
per
address-
that
Kentucky
would
get
in
additional
bead
funds.
The
the
funds
will
be
divided
up
in
June
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit.
F
So
you
know-
and
it
that's
just
we're
trying
to
to
get
as
much
of
our
as
as
we're
due
for
that
funding
program,
we're
also
working
on
our
Statewide
Broadband
map
and
the
Statewide
Broadband
plan.
The
map
we're
anticipating,
will
be
completed
in
May
and
the
plan
where
we
will
submit
to
this
is
going
to
be
it's
going
to
serve
two
purposes.
Both
these
things
are
important
in
the
bead
planning
process,
but
they're
also
statutory
requirements
of
the
office.
So
the
Broadband
plan
will
be
finished
by
August.
F
So
this
is
just
kind
of
an
overview
of
our
funding
programs.
The
first
round
we
awarded
89.6
million
dollars
that
leveraged
other
investment
to
Total
204
million
dollars
in
investment
for
47
projects
that
will
serve
over
34
000
new
locations.
The
poll
replacement,
Grant
is
still
open
and
we're
accepting
applications
for
that.
I've
had
a
couple.
Applications
come
in
that
we're
working
on
processing,
they're,
they're,
very
small,
so
we've
still
got
the
Lion's
Share
of
that
funding
available
the
capital
projects
fund.
F
That
round
we
had
open
from
November
to
to
last
week
and
we
had
about
206
million
dollars
which,
which
accounted
for
the
additional
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
recovery
funds.
The
no
service
addresses
are
our
priority
there
and
currently
the
challenge
process
is
open
for
a
service
provider
to
come
in
and
say
we
already
served
this
location
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
process
of
adjudicating
those
with
the
with
the
applicant
and
then
finally,
the
bead
program.
F
We
are
expecting
to
get
our
allocation
at
the
end
of
June,
based
on
the
Broadband
maps
that
the
FCC
has
produced.
Those
are
where
I've
seen
estimates
from
700
million
dollars.
You
know
up
to
over
a
billion
so
I'm.
You
know
I'm
gonna,
keep
my
expectations
low
here
and
be
pleasantly
surprised
if
it's
higher
than
that,
but
we'll
be
able
to
do
a
lot
of
good
with
with
those
funds.
F
So
the
better
internet
grant
program
met
the
capital
projects
fund
requirements
as
well
as
statutory
requirements
of
krs-224a
1121,
which
you
know
has
that
priority
for
the
no
service
addresses
before
we
serve
the
ones
and
that's
the
10-1
speed
or
under
with
the
the
next
priority
being
for
the
unserved
addresses
which
have
less
than
25
3.
And
at
this
point
we
are
not
able
to
consider
any
of
the
unserved
which
unservable
or
underserved
locations
that
have
over
25
three
up
to
100
by
20
speeds.
F
So
these
projects
will
meet
or
exceed
the
100
by
100,
symmetrical
speed
standard
that
the
treasury
has
proposed.
There's
a
preference
for
fiber
and
Last
Mile
projects.
All
the
providers
must
participate
in
the
affordable
connectivity
program
and
it
was
a
competitive
program
and
the
projects
have
to
be
operational
by
Design
31st
of
2026.
F
So,
like
I,
said
before
our
applications
close
on
February
6th
and
the
challenge
process
started
earlier
this
week
and
we're
hoping
to
have
those
determinations
completed
by
late
April.
So
we
received
103
applications
from
19
providers
and
that
covered
77
counties.
There
were
some
counties
that
had
more
than
one
application
submitted.
F
99
of
them
were
solely
fiber
to
Home
applications
and
four
had
some
cable
proposed
in
addition
to
fiber
to
home,
and
we
had
more
funds
requested
than
we
have
available.
So
that
really
demonstrates
the
need
for
this
funding
in
Kentucky,
but
I
think
also
with
you
know,
these
requests
we
can
see
where
the
providers
are
looking
to
build,
and
you
know
what
areas
are
out
there
that
still
maybe
need
another,
and
you
know
another
kind
of
intervention
to
get
there.
F
F
So
one
of
the
other
things
we're
working
on
right
now
is
the
Broadband
Equity
access
and
deployment
program,
which
is
bead,
and
there
are
two
kind
of
parallel
aspects
of
bead
that
we're
working
on
simultaneously
in
partnership
with
the
education
and
labor
cabinet.
There's
the
infrastructure
side,
which
I
think
everybody
just
refers
to
as
bead,
but
then
there's
also
the
digital
Equity
act
requirements
that
the
education
labor
cabinet
is
heading
up
because
those
deal
with
the
skills
that
are
required
for
adoption.
F
So
once
we
build
this
infrastructure,
we
need
people
to
be
able
to
use
it
and
that's
really
an
expansive
definition
of
equity.
You
know
getting
it
everywhere
and
then
having
people
adopt
it
and
develop
those
skills
that
are
necessary.
For
you
know,
education,
jobs,
keep
you
know
just
if
we
build
it
and
nobody
uses
it.
Then
we,
you
know
we
really
want
to
avoid
that
happening.
F
So
our
planning
funds
were
awarded
on
November
15th
and
we're
expecting
to
get
our
full
allocation
in
in
June.
Our
action
plan
needs
to
be
turned
in
by
August
12th,
and
once
once
we
get
our
allocation,
we
have
to
submit
a
proposal
to
the
ntia
on
how
we're
seeking
to
use
those
funds
and
when
they
accept
our
proposal,
we'll
be
released.
20
of
the
allocation
and
those
projects
have
to
be
completed
operational
by
the
end
of
2027.
F
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
we're
doing
for
the
action
plan.
The
planning
Grant
that
we
have
that
was
awarded.
That
is
supporting
the
these
short-term
planning
and
mapping
projects
that
I
talked
about,
but
also
the
Staffing
and
office
capacity
through
2027.
F
And
so
we
are
aligning
our
Outreach
and
planning
with
the
digital
Equity
plan
working
with
the
education
and
labor
cabinet
closely
and
we're
holding
the
local
coordination
meetings
around
the
state.
So
there's
opportunities
for
local
governments
and
residents
and
schools,
Healthcare
Workforce
Development
agencies
to
engage
with
us
and
tell
them
what
the
needs
are
both
from
the
infrastructure
side
and
from
the
skills
side.
F
So
we
started
yesterday
on
our
local
coordination
meetings.
I
was
down
in
Hopkinsville.
Yesterday,
the
the
team
is
going
to
Mayfield
tomorrow
and
we'll
be
over
the
next
six
weeks,
hitting
14
other
locations
around
the
state
to
collect
input
on
the
high-speed
internet
needs,
and
we
will
also
be
reaching
out
to
specific
stakeholder
focus
groups
like
industry
groups,
Workforce,
Development,
Healthcare
and
state
and
local
government
for
for
input
on
some
of
the
policy
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
and
I
really
I.
Think
also.
F
A
B
B
If
some
of
my
local
fiscal
courts
have
passed
resolutions
saying
this
is
a
priority
they
would
like
to
pursue
this.
Would
it
help
their
efforts
if
they
had
citizens
to
show
up
at
some
of
these
meetings,
just
looking
down
through
the
dates
and
the
locations
for
February
23rd
in
Elizabethtown?
That
would
probably
be
the
most
handy
for
my
Washington,
County
friends,
and
then
Lexington
on
the
22nd
would
probably
be
more
convenient
for
Jessamine
and
Mercer.
F
So
we're
taking
you
know
all
kinds
of
feedback,
because
we
are
working
on
both
the
digital
Equity
plan
and
the
infrastructure
deployment
side.
So
if
we,
you
know
hear
from
residents
that
they
can't
take
advantage
of
programs
like
the
affordable
connectivity
program
because
they
don't
actually
have
high-speed
internet
of
their
house,
then
that's
an
important
piece
of
feedback,
so
we're
just
Gathering.
F
You
know
all
of
that
kind
of
information
to
to
find
out
what
their
priorities
are,
but
if,
if
citizens
would
would
be
able
to
attend
that,
that
would
be
great,
but
also
elected
officials
and
people
that
you
know
work
with
the
covered
populations.
You
know
veterans
and
the
you
know,
people
in
in
poverty
and-
and
you
know,
minority
groups
and.
F
That
that's
the
kind
of
feedback
we're
looking
for
because
there
you
know
there
are
so
you
know,
Broadband
access
and
adoption
is,
is
a
rural
issue,
but
it's
also
an
urban
issue,
because
there
are
still
pockets
of
urban
areas
where
the
the
you
know,
people
can't
you
know
get
on
because
of
older
buildings,
or
you
know,
problems
with
getting
it
at
their
apartment
facilities
or
whatnot.
So
yeah
we're
just
we're
just
trying
to
get
all
that
information
together.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
F
C
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
presenting
today.
This
is
obviously
a
very
critical
issue,
I
think
for
everybody
on
this
committee
and
as
legislators,
I
know,
we've
heard
about
connectivity
and
the
importance
of
broadband
in
different
committees
over
the
years,
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
one
of
them
actually
piggybacks
on
what
rep
King
just
asked
about
the
local
community
meetings
in
the
Louisville
area.
You've
got
one
meeting
in
Jeffersontown,
you
just
mentioned
Urban
Pockets
that
did
not
have
connectivity
and
those
are
mainly
in
West
Louisville
and
some
South.
C
F
Going
to
want
to
hear
from
correct
and
and
that
has
come
up
I've
had
people
reach
out
to
me
about
about
that
issue
already,
and
you
know
we
can
schedule
additional
meetings
to
you
know
Target
specific
groups
that
we
don't
feel
like.
We
got
enough
input
from
and
I
think
that
is
definitely
one
of
them.
Okay,.
C
And
then
one
quick
follow-up,
the
with
regard
to
Last
Mile
project
and
unserved
areas.
So
the
issue
with
that
has
been
I
mean
it's
been
Perpetual
right,
we've
got
connectivity
where
we
can
get
it,
but
these
areas
that
just
cannot
get
service,
whether
it's
Far,
Eastern
Kentucky
or
for
whatever
reason.
My
question
has
to
do
with
the
grants,
process
and
rfps
or
any
of
these
contracts
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
this
new
round
of
contracts
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing.
C
What
is
what
is
the
fix
there
because
it
just?
We
cannot
seem
to
get
that
last
bit
done
no
matter.
What
is
it
a
question
of
providers
or
is
it
a
question
of
just
location,
geography?
How
is
that
being
addressed?
I
know:
you've
got
it
listed
as
as
one
of
several
points,
but
if
we
don't
prioritize
that
then
I'm
afraid
it'll
never
happen.
F
Prioritizing
the
unserved
areas-
yes,
okay,
so
that
I
think
with
this
round
of
funding
that
we
are
going
through
right
now
and
our
mapping
project
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
see
the
areas
that
there's
just
not
interest
from
isps
and
serving.
And
what
is
the
yeah
developing
a
strategy
to
get
to
those?
You
know
whether
it's
one
address
at
the
end
of
a
road
or
you
know
a
whole
pocket
of
of
air
areas
that
that
is
that.
F
That
is
something
that
we
will
be
looking
at
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
get
there
and
developing
a
policy
to
do
it.
If
you
know,
if
the
current
structure
of
grant
funding
is
not
the
right
approach,
like
you
know
what
what
do
we
need
to
do,
because
the
bead
program
does
allow
for
high
cost
areas?
You
know
as
zero
percent
match
and
that's
you
know
not
what
our
program
has
provided
for
right
now,
but
it's
possible.
A
F
A
F
It
is
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
per
Pole
or
fifty
percent.
Whichever
is
higher
up.
G
A
F
We
this
round
of
funding,
we
will
likely
exhaust
what
we
have
available,
but
then
the
the
bead
funding
we
will
have.
You
know
another
allocation
of
that
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Do.
A
F
Can
they
can
call
me
and
I'll,
you
know,
help
help
them
connect
to
any
provider,
they
that's
serving
their
area
or
kind
of
figure
out
what
their
strategy
is.
A
A
Good
again,
just
for
clarification
make
sure
again
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
I
I'm,
hearing,
very
good
things
from
people
in
the
industry
about
your
what
you're
doing
how
you're
doing
it
keep
up
the
good
work
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
time
out
you'll
be
today.
I
will
forewarn
you
probably
either
next
year
during
session
or
during
the
interim
I'd
love
to
have
you
come
back
and
tell
us
where
you
are
again
because
again
a
lot
of
people
say
who
are
they
get
that
way?
You
can
keep
the
public
informed
and
us
informed.
A
So
we
can
tell
people.
This
is
what
we're
doing
we're
all
at
Broadband
to
get
the
unserved
and
unserved
areas
in
Kentucky,
which
again,
as
I've
already
said,
this
is
the
new
Interstate
guys
I
mean
it
is
it's
coming
we're
looking
a
remote
worker
bill
which
has
become
more
important
to
us,
assuming
that
passes
and
again
it's
also
a
business.
If
you
don't
have
you
internet
availability,
everything
in
my
office
is
internet
based
and
I'm,
not
too
sure
what
it
does,
but
in
fact,
if
when
it
goes
down
we're
dead.