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A
Being
a
few
minutes
behind
here,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
rolling.
Mr
secretary
call
roll.
C
A
Well,
we
have
a
quorum
duly
constituted
to
do
business.
Two
quick
little
administrative
items,
first
of
all
need
to
recognize
and
welcome
our
new
member
to
the
appropriations
and
revenue
committee,
dr
douglas,
so
welcome
sir
appreciate
having
you
on
board
and
also
new
to
our
a
r
staff
is
ashton.
Thompson
ashton
welcome
aboard
glad
to
have
you
here
in
the
exciting
session,
so
very
well.
Okay,
first
up
senate
bill
5
sponsored,
I
believe,
by
senator
howe.
A
If
you
want
to
come
up,
sir,
and
I
think
we
have
a
number
of
distinguished
guests
who
are
looking
to
address
the
committee
today,
so
I
know
that
you
and
the
gentleman
sitting
behind
you
have
been
working
diligently
for
quite
some
time
on
this
and
are
very
passionate
about
it.
So
please
proceed.
D
Thank
you,
jason
house
senate
district,
one
I'm
here
to
talk
on
senate
bill
five,
along
with
all
my
friends,
and
they
had
districts
that
were
affected
by
this
senate
bill.
5
establishes
the
west
kentucky
state
aid
funding
for
emergencies,
our
west
kentucky
safe
fund.
In
response
to
the
december
tornadoes.
D
This
fund
allows
receipt
of
funds
from
multiple
sources,
state
allocations,
federal
funding,
other
gifts
from
private
organizations
all
channeled
through
there
it's
designed
to
be
a
passive
fund
and
that
it
doesn't
go
out
and
actively
solicit
or
advertise
for
contributions.
It
just
funnels
those
funds
through
to
their
appropriate
need.
A
Very
well:
anybody
else's
address
will
come
up
next.
If
he
doesn't
mind
senator
you
have
something
which
I
do
not
particularly
care
for,
but
but
you
know
the
most
powerful
word
in
frankfurt,
but
it's
probably
very
necessary
in
this
case.
So
why
don't
you
talk
about
that
briefly?.
E
It
is
thank
you,
mr
chairman
robbie
mills.
I
represent
scent
district
4
in
western
kentucky
through
reviewing
this
bill,
page
3
at
the
bottom
line.
5,
there's
a
line
item
that
talks
about
it,
says:
assistance
to
utilities
serving
graves
and
hopkins
county
for
resilience,
response
and
future
risk
re
reduction
through
bearing
of
utility
wires.
E
I
represent
caldwell
county
and
princeton
utilities
and
water
both
had
almost
3
million
dollars
worth
of
damages
to
their
utility
systems,
that
is
caldwell
county
and
then
also
bremen,
which
is
in
muhlenberg
county,
also
had
substantial
utility
damage.
So,
if
we're
going
to
list
graves
in
hopkins
county,
I
would
I
would
ask
that
we
also
include
caldwell
and
muhlenberg
county.
So
all
the
communities
that
had
major
utility
damage
will
be
able
to
build
back
with
resilience
underground
utilities,
if
possible.
E
A
Senator
first
of
all,
we've
got
a
couple
of
technical
things
that
we
need
to
do
here.
First
of
all,
in
all
the
members
packet
is
a
committee
substitute
that
I
believe
had
been
distributed
prior
at
this
time,
the
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adopt
the
committee
substitute
senator
caslin
second
by
senator
nemas,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
have
it
committee
substitute
is
adopted
at
this
time.
A
I
believe
what
senator
mills
is
referring
to
is.
If
you
look
on
page
three
section
five,
he
would
like
a
voice
amendment
which
in
essence,
would
then
read:
assistance
to
utilities
serving
graves,
comma,
caldwell,
comma
and
hopkins
counties,
and
please
do
not
debate
me
on
the
use
of
the
oxford
comma.
A
Apologize
except
me
all
right,
thank
you
at
this
time
and
as
a
one-time
thing.
So
if
you
lobby,
if
you
watch
this
committee,
if
you
think
this
committee's
interesting,
don't
expect
this
to
happen
again,
the
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
from
senator
west
seconded
by
senator
caslin
to
add
caldwell
and
muhlenberg
counties
to
page
3
line
25,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes.
A
Have
it
very
well
all
right
next
up,
I
would
like
to
invite
a
guy
who,
if
you
want
to
talk
about
somebody,
that's
a
warrior
that
doesn't
quit
fighting
for
his
constituents
and
in
any
scenario
I
want
cb
ambry
senator
embry
to
come
on
up
and
I'm
not
going
to
elaborate
more
than
that
cb,
but
to
say
that
you
absolutely
are,
and
everybody
knows
it
so.
F
I'm
cbm
reid
the
state
center
for
the
sixth
district,
and
we
were
hit
very
hard
in
the
tornado.
I
have
hopkins
millenberg,
ohio
and
butler
butler
had
very
minimal
damage.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
our
responders
and
they
did
the
emergency
responders,
did
a
great
job.
F
Due
to
my
health,
I
wasn't
able
to
be
on
the
ground,
but
talking
to
them
over
the
phone,
the
emts,
the
fire
departments,
the
police
all
did
great
jobs,
responding
immediately
as
soon
as
I
got
on
the
phone.
Most
of
them
were
already
on
the
ground
working
hard
and
it
was
a
very
difficult
job.
I
think
I
lost
28
people
in
the
storm.
Freeman
and
dawson
springs
being
the
two
hardest
hit.
F
Our
emergency
responders
did
a
tremendous
job
as
they
went
out
many
homes.
Businesses
were
just
a
rebel
and,
of
course,
they
had
to
find
people
who
were
injured
under
all
that
rubble.
They,
of
course,
they
found
28
people
who
had
lost
their
lives,
including
a
district
judge,
a
a
very
terrible
job
to
to
have
to
deal
with
some
of
them
lost
their
own
homes
and
their
own
families
were
affected,
and
these
families
will
be
affected.
F
G
G
F
These
are
historic
communities,
they're
small
towns,
but
they're
historic
communities,
and
when
you
lose
28
citizens,
you
lose
vast
areas
in
a
city,
not
only
business
but,
more
importantly,
the
the
residents
it's
just
devastating
and
I
have
talked
with
some
of
the
judge
executives.
F
They
are
very
appreciative
of
the
response
from
people
who
came
to
their
assistants
with
food
water
clothing.
F
Shelter
was,
you
know,
very
difficult
because
many
of
the
places
where
they
would
be
sheltered
we
were
destroyed
as
well,
so.
F
As
a
judge
executive,
of
course,
I
was
a
mayor
also
before
I
was
a
judge
executive,
so
dealing
with
such
devastation
in
in
these
towns
would
just
be
heartbreaking
for
them.
A
F
A
A
I
want
to
say,
because
you
don't
get
in
front
of
this
committee
much
I'm
guessing.
You
probably
won't
be
back
this
session
in
front
of
here,
but
this
being
the
last
session.
So
the
point
of
personal
privilege,
you
are
amazing,
your
devotion
to
duty
and
your
willingness
to
serve
through
whatever
adversity
brings
with
joy
and
with
a
smile,
the
people
of
ohio
county,
the
people,
the
sixth
senate
district,
the
people
you've
represented.
A
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'll
slide
back
up
here
the
day
after
the
tornado.
I
just
want
to
just
give
a
little
bit
of
commentary
just
so
you
understand
the
the
devastation
that
was
there
the
day
after
the
tornado.
I
just
went
for
a
ride
to
see
what
happened
and
went
to
princeton
and
drove
through
what
used
to
be
the
country
club,
and
there
was
300.
000
houses
just
gone,
and
you
know
it
wasn't
like
it
was
rubble
on
the
ground.
E
You
know
blocks
and
miles
away,
and
it
was
just
very
evident
that
the
tornado
stayed
on
the
ground,
for
you
know
miles
at
a
time
and
just
wiped
out
everything
that
was
in
its
path,
drove
down
to
dawson,
springs
and
dawson
springs
is
a
a
humble
former
coal
mining
town,
a
lot
of
fifty
and
sixty
thousand
dollar
homes
that
were
generational
homes
that
were
passed
down
from
generation
to
generation
just
gone,
and
you
know
some
of
the
struggles
that
that
community
is
having
is
you
know
they
were
probably
no
insurance
or
underinsured
homes
and
folks,
just
don't
have
a
place
to
go.
E
So
one
of
the
things
in
senate
bill
5
that
it
provides,
is
some
temporary
housing
and
there's
15
million
dollars
in
this
bill
for
immediate
addressing
of
temporary
housing-
and
that
is
you
know
what
maybe
generally
referred
to
as
kind
of
fema
mobile
homes
or
trailers,
and
with
that
you
know,
we'll
be
able
to
purchase
probably
200
or
a
little
bit
more
mobile
homes
also
be
able
to
hook
them
up
with
utilities
and
the
infrastructure
that's
needed
to
kind
of
get
those
folks
back
to
have
a
place.
E
They
call
their
own
and
home
they've
got
a
lot
of
decisions
to
make.
They've
got
a
lot
of
hoops
to
jump
through
with
insurance
coverage
and
other
assistance,
and
they
just
need
a
place
to
land
and
right
now.
A
lot
of
them
are
couch
surfing
in
places
that
with
relatives
or
just
friends
or
are
out
of
the
county,
and
what
these
temporary
homes
will
do
is
get
them
back
in
the
county,
get
them
close
to
their
places
of
employment
and
get
the
kids
back
into
the
county
so
that
they
can
continue
their
education.
E
So
I'm
particularly
pleased
with
that.
That's
the
main
thing
that
I
see
folks
needing
right
now
is
just
a
place.
They
call
their
own
and
home,
and
so
this
bill's
gonna,
you
know
make
that
happen
in
a
quick
manner
and
then
also
address
longer
term
needs
in
the
housing
realm.
So
thank
you
so
much
this.
You
know
this
is
a
long
road
to
hoe.
E
You
mentioned
joplin,
I
mean
very
similar
you're,
looking
at
a
two
or
three
year,
rebuilding
process
before
things
get
back
to
normal
and
this
this
bill
is
going
to
help
fill
the
gaps
that
our
citizens
will
need.
So
thank
you
so
much
from
someone
who
represents
a
couple
communities
that
were
just
devastated.
So
thank
you
very
well.
H
One
of
the
things
that
this
bill
doesn't
specifically
or
immediately
appropriate
funds
for,
but
this
committee
is
going
to
need
to
address
in
this
year's
budget
and
in
budgets
down
the
road
and
that's
the
court
system
as
the
judiciary
chair.
It
was
very
important
to
me
and
I
was
there
too
first
thing
saturday
morning,
I've
been
able
to
share
because
of
the
other
part-time
job
that
I
have
flying
a
drone.
H
From
time
to
time,
I
was
able
to
share
the
story
of
kentucky
in
mayfield
and
in
dawson
springs
truly
with
viewers
all
over
the
world,
from
australia
to
great
britain
had
a
request
for
the
footage.
In
singapore
I
mean
just
people
all
over
the
world
were
watching
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
and
the
most
jaw-dropping
things
that
I
saw
with
my
own
eyes
was
the
courthouse
there
in
downtown
mayfield,
which
is
a
complete
loss.
H
Three
semi-truck
loads,
where
the
files
are
now
sitting
in
detroit
michigan,
bring
being
freeze-dried
and
restored
by
a
company.
That
does
that.
I
didn't
know
that
was
even
a
thing
that
takes
place.
Security
personnel
had
to
go
in
and
retrieve
laptops
and
equipment
to
make
sure
confidential
information
was
secured.
H
The
court
system
has
had
to
respond
to
the
destruction
and
the
loss
of
the
building
and
set
up
temporary
facilities
for
court
proceedings
for
court
records
to
be
filed.
In
fact,
in
fact,
for
a
time,
those
of
you
that
are
not
lawyers
may
not
appreciate
this,
but
I
know
senator
webb
and
others
will
timelines
and
deadlines
are
pretty
important
when
you're
filing
things
senator
west
you're
familiar
with
that
and
senator
stivers,
they
actually
shut
off
the
and
stop
the
clock
so
to
speak
in
graves
county,
because
there
was
no
way
to
file
anything.
H
Everything
has
now
been
turned
back
on
by
order
of
the
supreme
court.
In
fact,
they
resumed
operations.
I
believe,
yesterday
or
the
day
before
again
in
temporary
facilities,
they're
going
to
be
costs
for
those
temporary
facilities
to
establish
those
that
are
going
to
last
for
the
next
two
or
three
or
four
years,
and
then
there's
going
to
be
an
18
or
19
million
price
tag
for
a
whole
new
building
to
put
all
those
people
back
in
place
and
that's
justin.
H
You
are
in
mayfield
just
in
graves
county,
and
you
heard
senator
emery
talk
about
the
tragic
loss
of
one
of
the
court
system
zone
and
judge
brian
crick
in
muhlenberg
county,
who
represents
that
district
or
served
that
district
and
has
been
since
2011..
He
left
behind
his
wife,
amanda
and
their
three
children.
H
A
You
senator,
and
you
know,
senator
wise.
You
want
to.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
max
wise
state,
senator
16th,
senate
district.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
the
geography,
the
demographics
of
the
the
map
of
kentucky
you'll
notice,
that
taylor
county
is
not
west
kentucky.
Taylor
county
is
not
even
considered
to
be
west
kentucky,
but
we
were
tragically
hit
as
well
on
the
storm
damage
that
happened,
we're
the
farthest
eastern
county
that
suffered
one
casualty,
that
day
losing
74
homes
that
were
destroyed
or
uninhabitable,
affecting
numerous
numerous
families
and
especially
in
the
agriculture
sector.
I
When
you
look
at
the
storm
damage
that
came
through,
it
was
in
the
northern
portion
of
taylor,
county
very
close
to
the
marion
county
line,
and
if
that
it
hit
about
three
to
five
miles
south-
and
I
know,
senator
gibbons
is
familiar
with
the
taylor
county
area.
That
would
have
came
right
through
campbellsville
university,
the
downtown
campbell
area.
I
But
I
appreciate
being
able
to
be
a
co-sponsor
on
this,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that's
being
done
with
this
legislation
and
including
also
tater
county,
because
you
know
there's
been
times
when
when
when
people
have
asked
me
about
relief
of
things
that
has
been
put
forth
and
they
see
western
kentucky
and
just
making
sure
that
taylor
county
is
still
included,
and
I'm
glad
to
be
a
part
of
that,
because
this
was
a
hit
to
numerous
counties
and
seeing
that
storm
damage
that
started
west
and
as
it
made
its
way.
I
With
this,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
we
had
one
casualty
just
in
taylor
county,
but
we
know
there
is
more
as
you
get
into
warren
and
then
farther
into
western
kentucky.
So
I
appreciate
the
work
that
was
put
into
this
bill.
I
appreciate
being
a
co-sponsor
of
this
bill,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
this
morning
for
allowing
me
to
testify.
J
J
You
just
couldn't
get
there
bowling
greens
tree
usa,
one
of
those
cities
too
as
well,
and
there
are
countless
trees,
huge
trees,
just
snapped
off
uprooted
and
the
debris
that
has
to
be
picked
up
and
fema's
on
the
ground
down.
There
is
just
incredible,
but
I
appreciate
this
fund
and
the
the
set-aside
of
this
fund
of
200
million
and
the
fact
that
48
million
of
it's
being
appropriated
now.
J
But
what
will
happen
I
know
is
that
we
will
be
in
contact
regular
contact
with
our
mayors,
with
our
judge
executives
and
our
emergency
management
folks
to
find
out
what
the
immediate
needs
are.
This
takes
care
of
immediate
needs
and
a
lot
of
it
is
reimbursable
through
fema.
So
that's
the
nice
part
about
it,
but
it
creates
that
so
that
we
are
ready
to
respond
and
we
have
responded
quickly.
J
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
support
on
this.
I
appreciate
the
bill
and
I
appreciate
all
the
outpouring
of
support
that
we
have
had
from
the
numerous
communities
around
the
state
as
well
as
outside
of
the
state.
So
I
just
wanted
to
wrap
it
up
and
just
say.
Thank
you.
As
all
of
my
colleagues
have
done-
and
I
appreciate
it
so
very
very
much
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
senator,
and
you
know
to
the
whole
of
the
western
kentucky
delegation.
That's
here
we
we've
had
an
interesting
process.
Is
the
bill
has
advanced,
and
I
know
the
governor's
yet
to
sign
redistricting,
but
in
essence
the
people
you
represent
down.
There
has
shifted
dramatically
due
to
the
population
shift,
but
nobody
has
done
anything,
that's
anything
but
seamless,
so
to
you
guys
in
the
work
that
you've
put
in
it's
amazing.
Thank
you.
I
also
have
to
appreciate
working
directly
with
the
governor's
office
on
this.
A
Finance
is
much
the
same
where
there's
nge
authority
for
the
governor
to
handle
the
stuff
that
has
to
be
done
right
now
and
then
what
you
see
us
doing
here
is
exactly
what
the
governor
asked
for,
which
is
begin
to
address
those
next
up,
concerns
that
are
very
important:
right:
housing,
getting
kids
to
and
from
school,
getting
them
the
the
wraparound
services
they
need,
and
then
the
balance
of
this
money,
which
is
what
the
governor
had
requested
in
a
call
with
us,
is
for
those
longer
term
issues
that
we
will
continue
to
have
hearings
about
to
make
sure
that
we
apply
them
in
ways
that
does
not
violate
anything
from
fema
and
also,
quite
frankly,
you
know,
I
will
never
forget
when
I
first
showed
up
here
in
the
general
assembly,
we
were
just
beginning
to
deal
with
the
federal
trials
that
resulted
from
the
tornado
cleanup
in
west
liberty,
and
you
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
appropriate
controls.
A
So
we
don't
see
those
same
things
again
from
folks
who
are
unscrupulous
actors
that
were
spending
the
taxpayer
dollars
wisely.
So
as
we
go
about
that
triage
effort,
I
also
want
to
thank
the
governor's
office
for
their
input
into
the
situation
and
their
actions,
and
we
appreciate
being
able
to
execute
those
actions
that
he
has
asked
for
in
a
responsible
way
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
additional
oversight
to
those
dollars.
A
With
that
I
have
senator
gibbons.
You
want
to
go
next.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
think
you
touched
on
a
lot
of
the
key
points
I
wanted
to
make
regarding
conversations
that
we
and
leadership
have
had
with
the
governor's
office
that
you
were
involved
in
and
the
immediate
need
the
allocation
of
monies
being
there
in
this
fund
that
we're
creating
the
200
million
deposit
into
that
fund
and
the
immediate
expenditure
of
45
million
broken
into
the
15
million,
and
the
30
million
I'd
like
to
ask
leader
wilson
to
come
back
to
the
table.
G
For
just
a
moment,
though,
because
there
was
a
very
important
conversation,
I
think
part
of
what
we're
doing
here
today
is
policy
forward,
but
I
think
and
hope
the
other
part
of
what
we're
doing
here
is
communicating
as
clearly
as
we
can
to
people
that
are
in
crisis.
The
needs
are
so
real.
All
of
you
have
spoken
eloquently
about
the
devastation,
the
human
tragedy
and
also
the
immediate
need
in
so
doing.
G
J
G
But
they're
very
restrictive
and
understandably
so
constraints
that
fema
puts
on
temporary
housing.
If
you
can
recall
for
the
committee
and
those
that
may
be
listening
about
those
constraints
and
why
they
may
not
apply
in
a
devastated
community
like
yours,
but
they
they
do
apply
in
dawson
springs
and
in
other
areas.
J
You
know
I
honestly
that
part
of
the
conversation-
I
don't
remember
the
restrictions
that
you're
speaking
about
but
I'll.
J
B
J
Well,
bowling
green
has
a
significant
apartment
availability
for
people
to
be
housed
in,
but
we
are
housing,
people
in
motels
and
hotels
and
things
of
that
because
of
the
growth
of
the
community.
Our
community
is
growing
so
fast.
They
can't
build
apartments
fast
enough,
so
it
may
look
like
that.
We
have
the
housing
to
house
them
in,
but
we
really
don't
and
I'm
we
are
delivering
meals
two
times
a
day.
J
Every
day
our
churches
are
stepping
up
and
I've
been
involved
in
that
and
these
people
they
are
just
putting
them
where
they
can,
and
that
is
one
of
the
biggest
needs
that
we
have
is
long-term
temporary
housing
for
them.
As
I
talked
to
my
judge,
he
said
that
was
the
biggest
concern
they
have
right
now.
G
We've
got
to
find
a
way
to
delicately
and
appropriately
try
to
keep
that
family
rooted
in
that
community
and
that's
what
this
temporary
housing
is
going
to
do.
As
the
chairman
indicated
getting
these
schools
reopened
so
that
people
regain
that
sense
of
community
is
so
important.
We
need
to
do
all
we
can
and
I'm
excited
by
the
legislation
you're
sponsoring
that
gives
us
the
chance
to
put
these
people
back
into
their
communities
in
ways
that
are
sustainable
and
livable.
D
Thank
you.
That's
one
of
the
greatest
concerns
that
our
local
people
have
mayfield's
affected
by
this
storm
is
well
documented,
and
one
of
the
greatest
concerns
for
the
people
in
mayfield
and
for
the
school
system
is
keeping
those
people
there.
Not
only
of
so
many
of
them
lost
their
their
their
homes,
but
a
lot
of
them
have
lost
their
jobs
as
well.
So
it's
very
difficult
for
them
to
stay
anchored
in
the
community.
D
D
Thing
please
senator
carroll
from
marshall
county
is
under
the
weather.
Today
he
regrets
that
he
couldn't
be
here.
His
county
was
affected
as
well.
It
went
east
to
west
through
his
county,
like
it
did
a
lot
of
mine
as
well,
but
he
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
he
fully
supports
this
legislation
and
wishes.
He
could
be
here
to
speak
directly
to
you
good.
L
Senator
gibbons
has
already
asked
most
of
my
question,
but
just
to
keep
going
on
the
same
line
and
anybody
can
answer
this
question.
You
may
know
the
answer.
L
We
had
some
recent
flooding
in
carlisle
kentucky,
which
is
just
above
me
in
my
district.
It
was
horrendous
and
we
had
this
problem
there.
The
key
to
temporary
housing
is
the
speed
you
know:
how
quickly
can
you
get
that
set
up?
Is
there
this
15
million
dollars?
Can
it
be
allocated
immediately
or
do
we
have
to
wait
on
a
fema,
designation
or
a
fema
sign
off
of
any
sort?
D
I
haven't
spoken
directly
with
fema
on
the
timing
of
the
senator
gibbons.
I
know
you
were
on
that
call
some,
but
nothing
ever
happens
as
fast
as
you
need
it
to
in
the
moment
this
that
having
the
funding
allocated
it's.
My
understanding
provides
that
first
step
to
be
able
to
do
this
as
for
an
actual
number
of
days
or
weeks
that
we're
talking
about,
I
don't
know
that
we've
been
given
any
sort
of
of
heads
up
on
on
timing.
For
that.
A
Very
well,
I've
got
them
stacking
up
here,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
hustle
through
senator
gibbons
is
going
to
respond
first
I'll.
G
Respond
briefly,
mr
chairman,
to
senator
west's
question
a
very
valid
question
from
the
communications
with
the
governor
and
the
conversations
that
we've
had
in
leadership
with
the
executive
branch.
The
indication
is,
the
trailers
are
on
the
verge
of
being
ready,
and
these
are
going
to
be
instead
of
a
mobile
home.
These
are
going
to
be
resellable
trailers,
because
apparently
the
market
value
and
fema
has
experienced
this
in
louisiana
and
texas
in
similar
situations
buying
a
a
mobile
trailer
as
opposed
to
a
mobile
home
has
resale
value.
G
In
addition,
the
200
that
are
going
to
be
purchased
are
going
to
be,
as
I
understand
it,
approximately
10
million
dollars
in
cost,
the
other
5
million,
is
going
to
be
for
the
infrastructure
for
the
hookups,
the
pads
connections
to
the
sewer
system.
I
think
it's
well
thought
out.
I
sense
that
the
governor
and
and
the
disaster
emergency
response
folks
have
a
great
plan
based
on
at
least
the
information
we've
received
to
date
and
senator
west.
K
Thank
you,
miss
chair,
and
certainly
this
the
devastation
of
this
storm
was
unprecedented,
but
what
wasn't
unprecedented
is
the
outreaching
of
support
from
people
throughout
the
state.
It
truly
has
been
heartwarming.
This
is
kentucky
at
its
very
best
and
we
need
to
remember
that
going
forward,
but,
mr
chair,
I
know
we're
rushed
for
time,
but
just
want
to
follow
up
on
your
point
of
personal
privilege
early
your
kind
remarks
about
my
friend
cb
embry,
we've
known
each
other
a
lot
of
years,
and
he
used
to
be
my
state
representative
and
frequent
visitor
to
my
hospital.
K
My
ceo
twin
lakes,
regional
medical
center.
He
truly
was
a
legend
in
grayson
county.
When
is
our
representative,
but
you
know
whatever
success.
We
have
achieved
in
frankfurt.
It's
a
large
measure
for
those
who
are
willing
to
stand
by
us
and
support
us,
and
I
think
we'd
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
acknowledge
his
life
partner.
Wanda
emery
she's
been
to
many
committee
meetings,
as
anybody
here
and
god
bless
her.
K
Both
of
them
have
been
to
all
of
us
for
working
on
60
years
of
marriage
and
just
a
great
couple-
and
I
know
cb-
would
acknowledge
that
he's
where
he
is
because
of
his
wife,
wanda
so
again
just
want
to
commend
monday
for
being
part
of
this
relationship
and
being
part
of
our
family.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
amen
to
senator
meredith
eloquent
acknowledgement.
You
know
I
was
in
little
rock
arkansas
the
night.
This
happened
at
the
governor's
mansion
and
we
were
kind
of
tracking
this
storm
and
jonesboro
was
hit
first,
and
I
got
a
call
from
memphis
checking
on
me
and,
and
I
stayed
up
all
night
monitoring
and
in
that
tv
market
area
got
no
sleep.
My
heart
was
with
you
all.
It
was
just
devastating
and
flashbacks
to
west
liberty.
M
When
I
was
on
the
ground
there
right
after
it
happened
our
neighbors
and
and
we
shared
that
court
jurisdiction
so
and
I
couldn't
help
but
think
about
the
mayfield
justice
center.
You
know
when
they
built
it
and
and
all
the
people
impacted
checked
on
former
representative
nessler
and
others,
and
any
friends
I
had
down
in
that
area
reached
out
to
some
of
y'all
came
back
through
bowling
green
and
was
it
was
just
heart-wrenching.
M
So
I
feel
like
I
went
through
that
somewhat
with
you
all
and
I'm
very
proud
that
the
kentucky
bar
association
there's
some
discussion,
lawyers
earlier,
but
they're
taking
volunteers
to
help
folks.
So
if
any
of
my
brothers
and
sisters
are
out
there
and
they
want
to
do
some
real
good
pro
bono,
work,
there's
a
great
need,
but
the
bill
drafter
and
me,
mr
chairman,
would
I
think
we
need
a
technical
correction
on
page
three
line.
Six,
where
it
says
an
eligible
recipient
may
receive
strike
the
word
tornadoes
and
insert
okay.
M
A
Very
well,
thank
you,
senator
appreciate
your
diligence
and
as
always,
okay,
at
this
time,
we're
going
to
cut
the
discussion
off.
The
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
on
senate
bill
5,
as
amended
by
senate
committee,
substitute
one
as
amended
by
voice
amendment
one
in
the
committee
today
by
senator
caslin
second,
by
senator
nemes,
mr
secretary.
Please
call
the
roll.
N
I
want
to
thank
the
delegation
for
this
piece
of
legislation,
and
the
city
of
bremen
is
on
the
county
line
of
my
district
and
siberian
marine,
and
I
shared
that
county
line
there
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
spend
a
few
days
down
there
running
a
trackhoe,
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
just
talk
about
the
volunteers.
N
I
mean
we
had
an
opportunity
to
show
the
nation
what
the
fabric
of
america
looks
like
with
this
tornado
and
the
devastation
it
brought.
I
sat
there
that
day
in
that
cab
of
that
excavator
and
just
watched
people
walking
down
the
streets,
giving
out
chick-fil-a
sandwiches
bottles
of
water
people
that
didn't
know
one
another,
just
embracing
and
hugging
those
who
had
lost
their
home.
N
N
A
A
A
Symbol,
48
very
simply
directs
the
cabinet,
via
commonwealth
seed,
to
recover
the
15
million
dollars
that
had
been
appropriated
to
what
was
originally
brady
industries
by
the
end
of
this
year
and,
if
not
to
go
ahead
and
initiate
litigation
therein.
I
want
to
be
very
clear
before
the
president
begins
his
remark
that
I
don't
want
the
commonwealth
to
get
15
million
dollars.
A
A
O
You,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
going
to
encourage
the
committee
to
pass
this,
and
then
it
will
be
in
the
rules
committee's
possession.
As
you,
mr
chairman,
have
said.
O
We
want
to
see
everybody,
including
I'm
certain.
The
senator
from
carter
wants
to
see
this
happen.
There's
a
couple
of
things.
I
want
to
explain
to
the
committee
in
my
role
as
the
senate
president
and
the
president
pro
tem
we've
had
some
individuals
reach
out
to
us.
Much
like
the
ford
deal.
I
have
signed
an
nda.
O
I
think
the
easy
and
most
expeditious
way
to
do
this
so
that
we
can
have
assurance
that
this
will
move
forward
and
I
have
been
given
assurances
and
and
that
it
is
moving
forward,
but
because
of
nda's
and
because
of
security
exchange,
commission
disclosures
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
can't
be
discussed.
O
So
I
think
it's
appropriate
appropriate
that
this
move
forward,
but
we
will
continue
to
do
our
due
diligence
and
leadership
to
sit
down
and
meet
with
the
respective
people
that
are
involved,
and
that's
my
commitment
to
them
and
what
you
and
I
have
talked
about.
The
president
pro
tem
has
talked
about
our
commitment
to
the
state
to
make
sure
everything
is
appropriately
done.
L
Chairman
this
is
one
of
those
questions
that
I'm
going
to
ask
that
as
lawyers
we're
supposed
to
a
lot
of
times.
L
L
So
I
make
those
points
to
say:
if
there's,
if
there's
an
a
pending
agreement
with
investors
or
if
they've
got
something
going
on
where
this
deal
can
be
salvaged,
there's
plenty
of
time.
Even
if
we
pass
this
out
of
committee,
we've
got
until
the
end
of
session.
We've
got
until
implementation
because
there's
not
an
emergency
clause
and
then,
as
I
read
it,
there's
even
further
discretion
to
december
31st
2022..
Is
that
fair,
correct.
O
M
Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
senate
president
for
appearing
here
today
and
relieving
some
of
my
sleepless
nights
because
this
this
project,
I
I've,
remained
a
cautious
optimist
from
the
in
this
project
and
I
still
do
I've
been
interviewed
by
the
press
this
week.
I
too
have
had
discussions
with
individuals
trying
their
best.
M
I
still
have
faith
in
the
investors
that
I've
some
of
my
known
and
watched
for
many
years
that
will
have
real
skin
in
this
game
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
get
something
in
my
district
for
this.
Mr
chairman,
I
appreciate
your
accommodations
and
this
committee's
accommodations
throughout
and
I'm
satisfied
with
the
no
emergency
clause
and
the
timeline
that's
here,
and
I
think
you
know
the
fiscal
part
of
me
certainly
would
like
to
have
the
money
back
if
there
is
no
chance
that
this
project
comes
to
fruition.
M
So
I
I
appreciate
everybody
working
on
this
and
again,
I'm
breathing
a
lot
easier
and
I
I'm
still
optimistic
that
that
our
district's
gonna
have
have
a
benefit.
So
thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
presidents,
divers
for
that
update.
It
is
reassuring,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
rare
situations
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
For
the
most
part,
we
want
to
see
results
and
I
think
we
took
a
real
leap
of
faith
back
in
2017
when
we
approved
this
expenditure
and
the
same
as
we
did.
We
took
a
leap
of
faith
when
we
did
then
the
battery
planned
in
in
hardin
county,
but
I
think
it's
a
courtesy
we
extended
to
governor
bevin,
certainly
extended
to
governor
beshear.
K
K
Wouldn't
it
make
sense
to
make
that
date
consistent
with
the
the
date
that
the
law
would
go
into
effect,
it's
kind
of
spending
years
here,
but
again,
just
from
investors
standpoint.
That
would
make
me
just
a
little
bit
squeamish,
but
to
me
it's
kind
of
meaningless
if
the
bill
doesn't
go
into
effect
until
after
july.
Anyway,
so
would
it
make
sense
to
make
the
data
this
effective
with
the
date
that
the
law
becomes
effective.
A
I
think
that
there
are
a
number
of
options
that,
if
this
is,
if
this
is
really
not
just
more
false
hope
peddled
upon
citizens
to
change
and
accommodate
and
allow
for
some
flexibility
for
real
investors
to
do
those
things
and
not
just
a
date
change.
So
I
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
flexibility,
but,
to
the
same
end,
I
think
that
everybody
needs
to
know
the
serious
nature
of
what
it
is
that
we're
asking
so
yeah,
absolutely
great.
Thank
you.
Sarah
castle.
G
N
With
your
institutional
knowledge,
so
you
know
I
never
have
been
a
huge
fan
of
even
public
private
partnerships
because
we're
spending
the
taxpayers
money
in
the
private
sector
and
but
but
when
we
look
at
this
here,
is
this
particular
loan
for
this
15
million?
Is
it
a
forgivable
loan,
or
is
it
a
loan
to
be
paid
back
with
interest.
O
I
think
it
is
something
that
may
be
forgivable
based
on
delivery,
but
if
there
is
not
delivery,
it
is
recoupable
or
better
known
as
a
clawback.
That
is
my
recollection.
N
A
N
Okay,
so
so
let
me
ask
another
question
this
piece
of
legislation,
because
when
we
vote
on
this
the
same
way,
I
was
a
freshman
when
we
voted
on
this-
and
I
was
one
of
two
in
the
house
who
didn't
vote
for
this
because
we
didn't
know
any
information
on
it.
And
I
asked
this
question
because
I
want
to
cast
another
vote
being
in
the
dark
whenever
it's
dealing
with
15
million
dollars
of
my
constituents.
Money
and
so
a
question
is:
is
this
expediting
that
process
or
guaranteeing
that
it
has
to
be
done?
A
N
And
I
agree
with
your
opening
statement:
we
want
to
see
aluminum
mill
in
this
portion
of
eastern
kentucky
because
of
the
amount
of
economic
growth
and
jobs
it
brings,
but
I
think
it
also
needs
to
bring
awareness
to
everybody
on
this
committee
and
in
the
general
assembly
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
good
language
around
when
we're
loaning
the
taxpayers
money,
because
I
wonder,
if
there's
other
projects
in
the
past
across
kentucky
that
we've
given
economic
development,
money
that
never
come
to
fruition.
You
read
about
all
these
ribbon
cuttings.
N
Whenever
it
comes
to
election
time
for
elected
officials,
and
then
you
drive
down
the
road
and
you
don't
see
anything
happen,
I
know
senator
gibbons
there's,
I
think,
there's
one
in
green
county.
That's
going
on
like
that
right
now,
and
so
I
support
this
measure
because
I
want
to
be
able
to
recoup
the
money
if
we
need
to,
but
I
hope
the
aluminum
mill
can
work
it
out
and
build
their
infrastructure
right.
A
And
to
answer
your
question
directly:
senator
caslin,
the
company
has
long
been
in
violation
of
statute.
The
cabinet
has
allowed
them
to
be
in
violation
of
statute
via
side
letters,
which
I
really
don't
know
exactly
how
the
executive
branch
does
that.
But
that's
what
they've
done.
This
prohibits
further
side
letters
to
allow
those
extensions.
O
And
if
I
could
address
this,
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
economic
development
statutes,
there's
a
couple
of
different
ways.
It
can
be
done,
you
confront
money
and
if
they
don't
produce
clot
back
or
you
can
put
up
criteria
that
when
they
hit
certain
points
of
success
and
it
may
be
in
total
investment,
it
may
be
in
total
number
of
jobs
that
then
they
get
to
get
the
incentives
incrementally
or
depending
on
how
the
deal
is
set
up.
O
Much
like
the
ford
deal
that
we
just
approved,
those
sometimes
are
spread
over
20
years,
but
we
came
back
to
the
present
value
because
ford
and
if
they
go
in
and
do
that
investment,
then
they
get
the
present
value
of
what
a
20-year
incentive
plan
is
because
part
of
that
can
be
because
it's
a
whole
series
different
things.
It
can
be
recoupment
of
the
income
tax
generated
by
the
new
jobs
and
so
depending
on
how
they
fashion
it
depends
on
what
remedies
you
may
have
for
non-performance.
N
Explain,
sir,
I'm
going
to
cast
an
eye
vote
today
within
hopes
that,
when
it
moves
the
rules
committee,
that
our
leadership
and
and
chairman
will
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
because
we
don't
want
to
send
a
message
across
the
commonwealth
that
kentucky's
not
for
economic
growth.
But
at
the
same
time
we
also
need
to
send
a
message
that
when
we
loan
you
15
million
dollars,
we
expect
to
see
results
in
a
timely
manner.
C
Today,
I'll
also
cast
an
eye
vote,
and-
and-
and
this
is
difficult
for
me-
but
for
the
same
reasons
that
senator
caslen
has
explained-
I-
I
really
want
leadership
to
continue
to
explore
this.
C
I
think
it's
really
really
important,
as
he
said
that
when
we
make
promises
to
people,
we
can
hold
them
to
the
promises
that
they
make
to
us
and
when
they
make
those
promises
to
us,
they
are
making
them
to
the
taxpayers
and
the
people
we
represent,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
people
we
represent
know
that
they
can
trust
us.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
K
Cast
my
vote.
Explain
please
just.
K
Certainly,
I'm
voting
eye
on
this,
but
would
like
to
follow
up
with
you
and
senator
stivers
regarding
the
possible
four
amendment
to
talk
about
the
dates.
Not
a
big
deal
issue
with
me,
but
would
like
to
do.
M
I'm
going
to
vote
and
explain
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
vote,
I
with
all
the
accommodations
that
are
in
here
in
the
same
time
frame,
and
you
know
what
senator
caslin
said.
It's
been
a
historic
issue
with
getting
information,
sometimes
economic
development
and
and
all
the
layers
of
secrecy
that
even
the
president
has
alluded
to
somewhat.
M
But
certainly
you
know
this
body
is
appropriating
body,
and
I've
said
this
throughout
my
tenure.
We
we
deserve
information
on
which
to
base
these
decisions,
notwithstanding
any
business
investment,
whether
it's
private
or
public,
you're
going
to
have
failures
and
things
happen
and
anomalies
and
global
issues
and
all
those
things.
So
you
know
there's
going
to
be
some
failures
with
any
investment,
but
I'm
voting
I
today
thank
you.
L
To
cast
my
vote
and
explain,
cast
and
explain
sir.
I
vote
I
today
to
move
this
bill
along,
but
I
reserve
the
right
to
change
my
vote
on
the
floor
hearing
some
pretty
good
information,
but
if
we,
if
we
hear
some
good
hard
information,
the
next
couple
weeks
on
a
change,
I'm
prepared
to
change
my
vote
to
a
no
on
the
floor
very
well.
A
Chair
mcdaniel
cast
my
vote
and
explain
as
well.
Mr
president,
thank
you
for
your
support
of
the
measure
today,
and
certainly
this
has
been
echoed.
We.
What
we
want
is
an
aluminum
mill,
not
15
million
dollars,
but
our
confidence
has
been
greatly
eroded.
I
think
we're
willing
to
have
some
patience
through
the
course
of
session,
but
I
don't
know
that
that
patience
will
necessarily
extend
till
april
the
15th.
A
So
I'm
optimistic
that
representatives
of
this
company
will
more
directly
engage
with
the
public
and
with
the
general
assembly
and
present
us
something
that
gives
us
good
news,
but
more
importantly,
gives
the
citizens
of
ashland
and
its
surrounding
communities
some
good
news.
So
I
cast
and
I
vote
there'll
be
nine.
I
votes
no
nay
votes.
The
measure
does
pass
on
to
the
floor,
any
other
business
to
come
before
the
committee.