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C
Yes,
sir,
my
name
is
Jeff
Noll
and
I'm.
The
secretary
for
the
cabinet
for
economic
development,
a
role
that
I
assumed
sometime
in
June
of
this
past
year,.
B
A
C
Right,
you
may
proceed
excellent.
You
know
what
we'd
like
to
do
today
is
just
go
through
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
around
rural
economic
development,
but
also
Define,
some
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
in
what
we
mean
by
rural.
So
we've
tried
to
put
together
what
we
would
call
the
definition
of
rural
communities
and
basically
it's
the
any
Community,
that's
not
in
the
top
10
populous
from
an
urban
setting
perspective.
C
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
know
our
job
is
to
really
be
a
great
collaborator
and
we're
trying
to
build
opportunity
for
all
residents
in
Kentucky
and
not
just
a
few,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
think
today's
topic
is
so
important,
and
so
what
you
have
before
you
is
is
what
we
call
within
the
cabinet.
Internally
is
our
one
pager
that
tries
to
light
our
vision.
Our
mission,
both
our
strategic
imperative,
is,
but
also
not
only
the
operational
priorities.
But
what
are
the
goals
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
hold.
A
Need
we've,
we
needed
a
quorum
to
do
some
things
that
we
need
to
do
the
last
three
weeks.
Yes,
sir,
so
I
would
entertain,
entertain
a
motion
for
the
minutes
for
the
meetings
on
February,
the
8th
February,
the
15th
February,
the
22nd.
While
we
have
a
quorum,
they'll
have
a
motion
representative,
Reed,
I'm,
gonna
block
it
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed.
C
That
no
apologies
needed
and
we
appreciate
doing
what
we
need
to
do
and
as
well
as
adjusting
to
technical
difficulties.
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman
to
summarize
this
one
page
I
think
it's
just
real
important
that
everybody
realize
we
need
to
have
a
guiding
principles.
We
need
to
know
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
at
the
cabinet,
and
we
also
need
to
have
the
outcome,
measurements
and
the
performance
indicators
of
how
well
we
are
doing
so
for
2023.
C
Our
goal
is
to
announce
12
000,
new
jobs
from
companies
locating
or
expanding
we've
got
a
real
Target
of
achieving
twenty
seven
dollars
per
hour
in
wages
before
benefits.
But
with
that
comes
judgment,
we
believe
there
are
certain
communities,
certain
kinds
of
jobs
in
certain
areas
in
which
these
jobs
are
partaking.
If
you
will
that
it's
important
to
get
them
in
our
state,
it's
also
important
to
help
people
get
access
to
jobs
at
all
levels,
not
call
those
pathway,
jobs
but
are
still
overall
goal,
is
27
an
hour
before
benefits.
C
We
also
really
want
to
see
a
lot
more
media
Impressions
about
the
progress
that's
happening
in
Kentucky.
We
want
to
identify
the
rewards
of
the
Investments
that
the
legislature
made,
and
we
thank
them
for
that
in
the
product
development
initiative,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
the
sites
that
we
have
in
our
state,
but
also
talk
about
the
in
many
ways.
C
The
things
people
don't
know
the
kinds
of
companies
that
are
locating
in
rural
areas,
such
as
down
in
Graves
County,
the
kinds
of
high-tech
businesses
that
are
starting,
such
as
in
Bell
County
this
year,
but
also
the
the
Partnerships
that
we
have
in
developing
those
jobs.
We're
going
to
focus
more
on
getting
media,
Impressions
and
another
very
tactical
measurement
is
we
will
close
575
transactions
that
require
written
agreements
and
I.
C
Think
it's
important
to
understand
that
level
of
activity
for
an
organization
of
our
size,
because
any
kind
of
a
transaction
would
be
one
and
that
would
include
the
loan,
documentation
and
disbursement
of
the
loan
that
was
made
on
behalf
of
Ford
and
SK
on
the
blue
oval
project.
That's
just
one.
We
will
do
that
574
more
times
in
the
upcoming
year,
and
we
will
always
do
this
following
the
behaviors,
as
well
as
the
values
that
we've
established
within
our
cabinet
and
I.
C
Just
call
it
attention
to
one
I
think
it's
time
that
we
articulate
the
good
things
happening
in
Kentucky
and
I
would
say
it's
time
for
us
to
expect
that
winning
is
part
of
our
culture
and
that
a
spirit
of
winning
with
Integrity
is
how
we
go
about
doing
all
of
our
business
and
we
enter
in
any
situation
on
a
company
looking
to
expand
or
locate.
Here.
C
But
that
also
means
making
sure
that
we
cover
the
entire
State
and
that's
why
I
reference
helping
all
kentuckians
in
not
just
a
few.
So
some
of
our
strategic
enablers
for
the
upcoming
year
is
just
that.
I
think
we
need
a
very
specific
road
map
for
economic
development
done
by
and
for
economic
developers
to
really
have
a
very
succinct
set
of
guidelines
in
the
succinct
set
of
targeted
industries
that
we
need
to
partake
in
and
help
to
move
the
state
forward.
C
It
needs
to
be
a
strategic
architecture,
that's
very
crystal
clear,
and
it
includes
making
sure
that
we
adjust
our
strategies
and
perhaps,
in
some
cases,
adjust
our
tools
to
not
only
make
them
so
they
fit
everywhere
in
the
state,
but
adjust
them.
So
they
are
very
focused
on.
If
you
will,
the
rural
parts
of
our
state
Eastern
Western
Kentucky,
as
well
as
those
distressed,
Urban
neighborhoods,
and
we
think
that
that
strategy
is
is,
is
the
timing?
Is
right
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
second?
C
These
are
the
values
that
we
expect
of
our
team
and
I
only
show
them,
because
whether
you're
an
individual
people,
leader
or
an
individual
contributor,
those
values
guide
what
we
do
every
day
and
I
come
back
to
them,
because
that's
actually
how
we
measure
our
team
and
I'm
very
proud
of
the
way
our
team
has
embraced
these
values.
Going
forward
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
can
talk
about
jobs.
C
C
How
we
propose
to
do
it,
but
to
answer
the
question:
I
think
we
need
flexible
tools
and
better
strategies
to
meet
the
needs
of
all
rural
communities
and
our
Eastern
Kentucky
areas,
as
well
as
those
distressed
neighborhoods
the
world's
changed.
The
addition
of
some
major
companies
in
our
state
has
also
brought
about
change,
but
now
we
need
to
adjust
to
those
changes
and
build
off
that
platform
of
success
to
have
that
road
map
going
forward.
C
That
structure
is
an
important
one,
because
we
want
to
roll
out
a
strategy
where
we
get
the
voices
of
all
of
the
partners
and
I
call
it.
This
way,
we're
going
to
sign
and
ask
individuals
of
our
key
process
Partners
to
be
on
point
to
work
with
us
on
that
strategy
to
then
bring
that
to
the
legislature.
We
want
organizational
support,
but
we
want
individual
leadership
so
that
we
don't
cumber
this
process
down
and
trying
to
create
everything
for
everybody.
C
We
want
a
very
concise
document
that
helps
us
move
forward
and
here's
an
example
of
that
structure.
If
this
document
comes
in
two
words
more
than
75
Pages
or
better
yet
50
pages,
the
consultant
may
be
marched
down,
Main
Street,
tart
and
feather
to
move
on
without
being
paid,
because
we
don't
need
that
kind
of
a
document.
C
I.
Think
it's
important
to
also
see
how
we're
thinking
at
the
cabinet.
Now.
This
is
a
very
busy
slide,
but
we're
trying
to
articulate
what's
happening
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
what's
happening
in
Western
Kentucky
and
we've
identified
a
map
that
shows
all
the
wonderful
Road
improvements
and
Investments
that
the
legislature
has
provided
as
well
as
the
Investments
being
made
in
Technical
Training
institutions.
C
C
I
think
also,
it's
important
to
understand
that
speed
to
Market
is
you
got
to
have
buildings
and
you
got
to
have
products,
and
so
we
appreciate
not
only
the
the
support
of
the
pilot
projects
that
were
done
for
the
PDI
program,
but
for
the
funding
of
100
million
dollars
in
this
effort,
and
we've
just
concluded
our
first
round,
we've
notified
communities
that
are
moving
forward
into
the
due
diligence
phase,
but
I
think,
more
importantly,
we're
already
out
there
talking
to
communities
and
talking
to
them
about
how
do
we
get
more
applications
in
round
two
that'll
be
coming
forth
in
June
of
this
year?
C
C
These
are
all
the
build
ready
sites
that
we
have
I
think
currently
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
because
it
was
part
of
a
build
ready
program,
a
nice
diverse
mix
across
the
state
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
show
other
sites
and
all
the
other
sites
that
may
not
fit
that
defined
criteria
under
the
build
ready
program.
That's
why
we
have
375
in
our
database
and
I
can
assure
you
every
time
we
have
a
company
that
sends
us
criteria.
C
We
try
to
fit
every
county
in
the
state
into
the
mix
to
be
eligible
for
that
consideration.
We
use
that
database
regularly
routinely
and
exhaustively.
The
PDI
program
is
also
a
partnership
and
I
want
to
emphasize
this.
The
Kentucky
Association
of
economic
developers
is
a
professional
trade
Association
for
economic
developers.
C
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
I
wanted
to
give
it,
though,
to
you
for
information.
Pilot
programs
have
already
paid
dividends,
just
in
Western
Kentucky
we've
had
you
know
some
some
10
billion
dollars
worth
of
project
Investments
you
see
where
these
are
located.
All
that
came
because
of
your
support
for
the
pilot
programs.
Under
the
PDI
initiative.
That's
now
led
to
the
100
million
dollars.
These
are
successes
that
are,
in
the
rear
view,
mirror
before
we
even
start
deploying
that
100
million
here's
some
programs
in
Eastern
Kentucky
good
projects.
C
Let
me
just
take
a
step
back.
We
need
more
applicants.
We
even
need
more
applicants
than
what
we
had
in
round.
One
and
I
was
in
Prestonsburg
Paintsville
and
several
other
communities.
Yesterday
meeting
with
the
ad
District
meeting
with
Local
Economic
developers
to
encourage
them
to
apply
and
what
I
found
was
there's
going
to
be
multiple,
more
applications
in
round
two.
C
They
just
weren't
ready
yet
in
round
one,
but
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
our
road
show
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
with
the
Kentucky
associate
economic
developers,
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
web
sites
to
get
and
to
encourage
more
communities
to
participate
in
the
PDI
program
in
terms
of
the
new
and
expanding.
If
we
take
the
definitions
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
see
the
investments
in
2021
as
well
as
in
2022,
based
on
that
definition
of
rural
versus
Urban.
Now
is
our
definition
correct.
It
may
or
may
not
be
Mr
chairman.
C
We
definitely
want
to
hear
from
all
members
of
this
body
and
if
we
need
to
adjust
or
change,
but
we
felt
like
if
we
really
kind
of
took
those
top
10
urban
centers
and
then
every
other
community
was
a
part
of
that.
We
thought
we
had
done
a
nice
job
of
delineating
between
Urban
versus
Rural,
and
then
we
also
articulate
East
versus
West
and
we're
adding
another
component,
which
is
the
neighborhoods
and
urban
distressed
areas.
C
This
will
give
you
an
example
of
some
of
the
projects
that
have
been
announced
in
new
and
expanding
areas,
both
well
technically
across
the
state,
and
do
we
have
enough
dots
and
enough
projects
in
each
of
all
120
counties?
The
answer
is
no,
and
we
need
to
expand
upon
that,
which
is
why
we
go
back
to
that
strategy,
but
also,
let
me
take
a
step
back
most
of
these
projects
that
I'm
familiar
with
well
I'll
say
all
of
them.
C
They
didn't
locate
in
a
community
with
County
boundaries,
they
located
an
area
that
they
had
what
they
needed
and
that
included
multiple
surrounding
counties
relative
to
the
access
to
the
workforce.
The
supply
base,
many
of
the
projects
that
are
here,
are
actually
going
to
increase
their
use
of
suppliers
that
are
located
in
surrounding
communities
all
across
and
including
all
across
the
state.
That's
how
we're
trying
to
lift
up,
but
it
gives
you
a
visual
understanding
of
the
projects
that
we've
announced
across
the
state.
C
We've
had
some
successes
that
I
think
are
worth
noting.
I
mentioned
the
project
down
in
Graves
County,
which
is
not
only
locating
in
a
rural
area
but
they're
also
AG
related
agriculturally
related.
It's
a
company
that
makes
disc
blades
for
the
AG
industry
and
construction
industry
and
they're
moving
a
major
operation
into
Graves
County.
C
We
also
have
a
project
in
Salyersville
and
mcgoffin
County
that
has
come
about
here
recently,
but
we
need
to
do
more
and
that's
why
I
go
back
to
the
flexible
tools
we
need
to
have
and,
in
addition,
we
need
to
start
understanding
the
kinds
of
companies
that
are
out
there
and
the
companies
that
are
changing
and
how
do
we
make
them
be
a
better
fit
across
all
of
the
120
counties
in
Kentucky
the
small
business
tax
credit
which
I'm
proud
to
say
that
this
year,
clay,
Hart
and
Larue
Counties
have
participated.
C
But
this
is
an
area
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
having
once
been
in
the
real
estate
business
and
knowing
what
it's
like
to
have
your
own
payroll
and
also
in
the
tobacco
warehousing
business.
I
like
to
see
this
credit
program
used
to
help
small
businesses,
get
additional
tools
to
strengthen,
employ
people
and,
more
importantly,
potentially
grow
into
major
employers
across
our
state.
C
This
gives
you
a
sense
of
some
of
the
area
development
districts
for
which
we
have
been
participating
and
as
we're
on
the
topic
of
area
development
districts,
I
made
a
pledge
that
I
would
first
go
visit
area,
every
area,
development,
district
meetings
on
their
site
before
I
started
meeting
with
individual
communities.
I've
done
that
I've
been
to
every
one
of
them
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
C
They
are
major
major
partners
that
we
need
relative
to
our
work
and
successful
work
going
forward,
Kentucky
Innovation
hubs
when
I
was
in
this
job
a
long
long
time
ago,
the
Kentucky,
Science
and
Technology
Council
was
actually
a
part
of
our
cabinet.
I
made
the
decision
that
we
needed
to
move
that
out
and
we
need
to
start
to
decentralize
the
the
efforts
around
Innovation
and
entrepreneurialism,
because
you
need
to
decentralized
set
of
tools
to
do
that
and
now
these
are
all
the
the
the
programs
that
cover
the
state
that
are
part
of
our
cabinet.
C
But
they
receive
funding,
they
receive
technical
support,
but
they
are
boots
on
the
ground
in
the
communities
working
with
high-tech
startups,
small
businesses
and
working
with
universities
and
community
colleges
to
help
grow
these
businesses-
and
this
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
dispersion
of
these
organizations
and
where
they
represent
across
the
state.
We
have
a
lot
going
on
with
soar
clearly
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
but
they
do
an
outstanding
job
and
they
have
capacity
to
to
address
and
do
what
these
that
that
territory,
the
proc
the
tax
incentive
programs
that
you
provide
to
us.
C
There
are
several
and
you
can
see
in
dark
blue.
These
are
ones
that
meet
the
enhanced
communities
definitions.
These
are
all
programs
that
work,
but
I
would
like
to
analyze
them
all.
Get
do
a
great
job
of
understanding
where
the
world
is
heading
and
make
sure
that
these
tools
are
fitting
the
real
needs
of
the
future,
especially
for
Rural
Kentucky,
especially
for
pockets
of
Eastern
and
Western
Kentucky,
and
especially
for
neighborhoods
and
some
of
those
Urban
distressed
neighborhoods.
C
We
might
need
to
tweak
fine-tune
some
of
these
tools
to
be
more
impactful
and
effective
in
terms
of
attracting
growing
and
developing
jobs,
and
by
definition,
you
can
see
the
enhanced
incentive
communities
that
get
better
benefits
to
encourage
companies
to
locate
in
those
enhanced
communities
based
upon
several
sets
of
criteria,
and
you
can
also
see
the
ones
that
were
decertified
this
past
year,
ones
that
were
decertified
in
2021
and
2020.
I
think
that's
a
goal
is
to
help
communities
fall
out
of
that
category
when
the
timing
is
right.
C
As
you
know,
all
of
our
programs
are
Performance
Based
and
all
the
tools
that
we
have
are
really
tied
to
either
the
tax
income
liability
or
the
individual
employee,
the
corporate
tax
liability
of
the
company
or
some
sort
of
refundable
tax
credit
that
might
be
defined
like
under
the
Entertainment
District
program.
That
I
think
is
important
for
the
state,
but
these
are
the
tools
and
again
we're
not
taking
away
money
from
the
general
assembly
per
se
or
should
I
say
the
the
budget.
C
C
You
know
whether
it's
access
to
natural
resources
for
ecotourism,
whether
it's
a
very
strong
agricultural
base
which
for
people
like
me,
I,
get
goosebumps
my
arms
when
I
go
to
visit,
it's
just
what
I
love
to
see
or
the
areas
that
have
certain
kinds
of
Industries
located
there,
the
more
a
county
or
city
or
Township
Embraces,
who
they
are
and
articulates
the
vision
for
where
they
want
to
go
the
better
chance.
We
have
for
existing
companies
to
grow
and
companies
to
locate
there.
C
In
terms
of
generating
new
employment,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons,
tourism
and
I'm,
not
just
teeing
up
who's
following
us,
even
though
I'll
defer
all
of
your
questions
to
the
tourism
cabinet
I
do
think
it's
important
to
understand.
There's
an
interdependencies.
All
of
our
120
counties
are
interdependent,
but
yet
each
one
of
them
has
something
uniquely
special
and
it's
something
uniquely
special
that
if
you
have
an
ecotourism
or
you've
got
a
place
to
go,
canoeing
or
you've
got
a
great
place
to
even
go
to
a
restaurant.
You
name
it.
C
People
from
outside
the
state
want
to
visit
those
areas.
When
people
visit
those
areas
they
become
the
best
Advocates
and
the
best
proponents
of
what
Kentucky
has
to
offer,
and
in
my
28
years
in
Michigan,
I
gave
out
so
many
recommendations
about
where
to
go
on
the
Bourbon
Trail,
where
to
go
in
to
go
fishing
because
I
would
meet
people
and
they'd,
say
you're
from
Kentucky
and
I'd
say
well.
C
How
did
you
guess,
but
nonetheless,
they
said
we
can
tell
and
I
would
give
them
that
information
and
I
was
I,
was
always
meeting
some
people
who
said
that
is
the
most
fantastic
State
we
vacation
there.
Every
year
we
go
fishing
there
every
year
and
they
were
the
ones
that
I
would
then
pull
into,
and
I
will
now
help
recommend
why
you
should
move
there
recommend
ways
you
should
move
your
business
there.
C
There
is
a
great
correlation
between
how
we
are
perceived
as
a
great
tourism
State
and
how
we
are
perceived
as
a
great
place
to
to
live,
and
if
we
are
perceived
as
a
great
place
to
live,
we're
going
to
be
perceived
as
a
great
place
to
invest
in
businesses
and
I
can
assure
you
that
the
more
tourism
grows,
the
more
the
quality
of
life
deliverables,
restaurants,
all
the
other
things
that
go
along
with
that
they
strengthen
as
well.
So
that's
why
we
believe
very
strongly.
C
A
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Secretary,
Noel
I've
got
a
couple
questions
actually
a
few
questions.
Yes,
sir.
What's
the
biggest
obstacle
to
getting
jobs
or
Economic
Development
into
the
rural
parts
of
Kentucky,
when
I
say
rural
East,
Kentucky,
Far,
West
Kentucky,
what's
the
biggest
obstacle.
C
C
I
think.
The
greatest
challenge,
though,
is
we
need
to
understand
what
each
Community
brings
and
what
they're
perfectly
ripe
for
and
then
make
sure
we're
trying
to
attract,
recruit
and
bring
those
kind
of
companies
in
that
fit
the
right
profile
of
what
our
communities
have
to
offer
as
a
step.
One
because
step
two
is:
when
you
get
announcements
of
those
kinds
of
jobs
you
can
move
into,
maybe
bigger
projects
sometimes
I
feel
like
and
I'm
guilty
of
it
as
well.
C
C
I
think
another
is,
is
leaning
back
into
who
you
are
as
a
community
and
being
proud
of
it
and
then
working
together
to
say-
and
this
is
the
kind
of
company
that
we
want
in
the
area-
I
think
another
goes
back
to
perception
about
Workforce
I
believe
very
strongly
that
Eastern
Kentucky
especially
has
a
much
bigger
and
better
Workforce
than
perhaps
the
perceptions
may
be.
I
mean
when
I
meet
folks
that
drive
two
hours
because
they
love
their
Community,
but
they're
willing
to
drive
two
hours
to
go
to
work
at
one
of
the
companies.
C
Maybe
in
Central,
Kentucky
and
I,
know
they're
Talent
based,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
they
are
better
articulating
that
for
coming.
So
Workforce
is
an
issue
that
we
definitely
need
to
work
on
and
because
companies
are
changing
so
rapidly.
We
need
to
adjust
our
strategy
for
the
kinds
of
companies
and
what
drives
them
to
make
those
decisions
to
have
both
our
presentation
and
tools
and
targeted
list
of
companies
defined
against
that
that
outcome
of
rural
Kentucky,
East,
Kentucky,
West,
Kentucky
right.
A
I've
got
a
neighbor
that
travels
two
hours,
one-way
to
Toyota
every
day
from
Hazard,
and
you
know
he
loves
the
mountains
and
one
thing
you
said
that
will
lead
me
into
my
next
question:
is
we
we
need
to
lean
into
who
we
are?
Yes,
sir?
So
are
you?
Are
you
familiar
with
Hatfield
McCoy
trail
system?
Yes,
sir
I
am
in
West
Virginia
they're
recognized
as
economic
development
rather
than
tourism,
because
last
year
they
had
96
000
riders
that
came
into
eight
eight
counties
in
West
Virginia
southern
part
of
West.
A
Million
dollars
sure
so
leaning
into
who
we
are
in
the
mountains.
Obviously
we
were
cold.
The
coal
industry
and-
and
you
know
in
my
County
alone-
I
think
we
lost
about
1400
coal
jobs
in
Perry,
County
prior
to
representing
breth
and
owsley
I
had
Harlan
and
they
had
about
the
same
number
of
coal
jobs.
So
so
three,
three
thousand
thirty
five
hundred
jobs
in
the
coal
industry.
That's
just
coal,
not
not
counting
mom
and
pop
stores,
garages,
tire
shops
and
all
that.
A
So
since
then,
how
do
we
go
from
cold
to
nothing?
That's
what
went
from
cold
to
nothing!
So
I
really
would
like
for
the
economic
development
cabinet
to
look
at
and
help
me
look
into
the
trail
system
as
not
just
we're
going
to
go
around
and
ride
a
bunch
of
four-wheelers,
but
we're
going
to
use
it
as
economic
development.
I
know
one
particular
place
in
West
Virginia
that
that
laid
off
coal
miner
said
I'm
tired
of
getting
laid
off
and
he
and
he
started.
He
started
a
Campground.
Basically.
C
A
11
cabins,
he
rents
side
by
sides
got
a
little
Dairy
Bar
on
top
of
the
mountain
has
25
RV
hookups
now
has
16
employees
that
work
for
him
full
time.
That's
in
West
Virginia,
but
we
we
may
not
ever
land
250
or
300
job
Factory,
but
if
we
can
get
a
lot
of
10
to
20
employee
employer
places
in
across
the
across
the
whole
18
counties
so
across
all
of
East
Kentucky.
A
That
would
make
a
big
difference
for
us,
and
so
I'd
like
to
have
some
private
meetings
later
on,
maybe
during
the
during
the
summer
just
to
discuss.
How
do
we
go
from
cold
to?
Let's
bring
you
know,
96
000,
Riders
and
85
percent
of
those
Riders
were
from
outside
of
the
state
of
West
Virginia.
So
that's
outside
money
coming.
A
You
know
and
that's
what
we've
got
to
do
in
East
Kentucky.
We
got
to
bring
in
outside
people
to
there
again
if
we
look
at
it
just
as
tourism.
That's
fine
too,
because
I'm
for
that,
because
there's
no
no
place
in
my
opinion,
that
is
as
pretty
as
the
mountains
of
East
Kentucky
I
agree
with
you
Mr
chairman,
and
and
so
we
can
do
tourism
but
I.
A
Think
if
Economic
Development
looks
at
some
things,
you
know
that
would
that
would
that
would
bring
help
into
the
rural
parts
of
East
Kentucky
as
I
look
at
the
job
announcements,
I'm
happy
for
every
part
of
Kentucky
that
gets
jobs,
I'm
happy
for
that,
but
most
of
East
Kentucky
there's
been
no
real
big
job
job
announcements
in
many
years,
there's
been,
there's
been
a
few
and
we're
blessed
in
the
mountains,
and
so
I'm,
not
griping
I'm.
A
C
Chairman,
first
of
all,
we
need
more
air
Hubbards
who,
as
you
know,
has
put
together
his
small
business
to
help
do
the
kind
of
motor
vehicle
activities
across
Eastern,
Kentucky
and
I
agree
100
percent.
That's
that's
why
I
made
the
reference
to
we
need
this
strategy
and
I'm
going
to
commit
to
you
the
following.
In
fact,
I'll
send
it
to
you
our
letter,
that's
about
to
go
out
asking
for
Consultants
to
tell
us
what
they
can
do
to
help
us.
C
We
have
in
there
a
very
specific
point
that
says
there
will
be
a
group
that
will
specifically
Target
our
rural
areas,
but
especially
Eastern
Kentucky,
to
develop
the
strategies,
develop
the
kind
of
activities,
including
tourism,
so
that
we
can
make
that
a
part
of
our
Economic
Development
effort.
Now
we
never
want
to
encroach
upon
the
tourism
cabinets
activities,
but
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
can
be
done
because
where
I
was
in
Michigan,
which
was
not
the
same,
but
it
was
an
area
in
which
it
lost
all
of
its
manufacturing.
C
55
above
you
know,
below
poverty
live
there.
It
took
me
a
while,
but
I
had
to
realize
I
need
to
build
a
tourism
strategy
that
leads
then
into
job
creation
strategy
that
then
leads
into
attraction,
and
we
built
a
lot
of
physical
development
undertakings
to
really
grow
and
build
tourism
and
I
believe
with
everything.
I've
got
that
that's
how
you
start
to
get
people
want
to
live
in.
Those
areas
is
based
on
that
tourism
and
quality
of
life.