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A
Okay,
we'll
probably
have
a
few
more
members,
trickling
in
here
over
the
next
few
minutes,
but
before
we
have
roll
call,
just
wanna
make
mention
and
notice
of
I
know
we
have
plenty
of
county
judges
and
magistrates
here
today
visit
us
in
the
annex
and
then
the
capitol,
and
we
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work
back
home
and
if
you
don't
mind,
if
you're
a
county,
judge
or
magistrate,
if
you
would
stand
up
and
let
us
recognize
you
thank
y'all
for
your.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
A
Well,
this
is
the
senate
state
and
local
government,
so
a
lot
of
bills
that
pertain
to
your
business
flow
through
this
committee
and
we
we
usually
have
a
pretty
busy
schedule
each
meeting
we
have
so
we
have
two
two
items
on
the
agenda:
one
for
discussion
only
and
one
that
addresses
magisterial
district
reapportionment.
That
might
be
of
some
interest
to
you.
So,
madam
clerk,
please
call
our
roll.
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members
of
committee.
I
appreciate
you
accommodating
us,
so
we
could
go
first
and
get
back
over
to
house
local
government
committee.
I
am
representative
michael
meredith,
representing
the
19th
house
district,
and
I
will
let
my
guest
introduce
themselves.
E
D
House
bill
212
that
you
see
before
you
today
is
a
constant
work
in
progress.
It
seems
like
over
the
last
couple
years
that
was
not
caused
by
anything
that
this
state
or
this
body
created.
What
happened
was
when
the
coveted
pandemic
occurred.
The
census
bureau
got
behind
the
eight
ball
on
getting
their
numbers
down
to
us
at
the
state
level
into
our
local
governments
across
kentucky
and
state
law
required
that
magisterial
reinforcement
begin
may
1st
of
the
year
following
the
census.
D
When
the
census
bureau
was
delayed
in
getting
those
numbers
to
us,
they
weren't
going
to
have
their
data
by
may.
The
1st
they
weren't
going
to
have
their
data
until
at
least
late
september
or
early
october
of
that
year,
and
the
filing
window
would
have
already
opened.
We
found
that
out
about
two
days
before
the
bill
filing
deadline
a
couple
years
ago
and
started
frantically
trying
to
fix
this
issue.
D
We
passed
a
bill
last
year
that
would
have
moved
the
magisterial
reapportionment
to
may
of
this
current
year,
which
is
the
second
year
following
the
census
to
accommodate
that
issue.
But
what
we
found
out
was
obviously
this
is
a
a
magisterial
election
year
and
by
placing
that
time
frame
in
that
may
and
60-day
time
frame,
there
was
a
potential
that
someone
could
have
won
a
primary
election
and
then
just
been
disqualified
to
run
in
the
fall
by
the
redistricting
process.
A
G
A
E
So
the
committee
sub
allows
for
the
state
board
to
be
able
to
approve
the
county
board
of
election
precinct
lines.
What
we
had
to
do
was
say
that
it
was
not
withstanding
two
separate
laws
to
allow
that
date
to
be
moved.
So
that's
what
the
committee
sub
does
very.
F
I
am
essentially
here
to
to
support
the
clerk's
position
on
this
from
the
magistrates
commissioners
association.
It
it
puts
undue
burden
if,
if
it's
not
taken
care
of
and
we
as
fiscal
courts,
obviously
don't
want
to
cause
undue
burden
on
our
county
clerks.
Absolutely.
C
H
C
Well
that
I
mean
that
goes
without
saying,
representative
meredith,
you
know
I
I'm
not
crazy
about
the
fact
that
magistrates
and
commissioners
don't
run
in
new
districts
this
year.
C
You
know
we,
we
all
have
new
districts
that
comply
with
the
constitution
and
statutory
requirements
and
one
person
one
vote,
14th
amendment
and
in
a
perfect
world.
You
all
would
be
too
because
you're
you're
going
to
be
running
in
districts
that
are
completely
out
of
whack
population.
Wise
some
are
going
to
be
way
low.
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
be
on
the
record
and
say
that
this
is
not.
This
is
not
a
perfect
solution,
but
we
don't
live
in
a
perfect
world
because
of
covid.
That's
that's
why
we're
here
the
data
was
delivered
late
because
because
the
numbers
couldn't
be
generated,
so
I'm
going
to
support
the
bill,
but
I
do
want
to
be
on
the
record
saying
holistically,
I'm
not
thrilled
with
the
situation,
but
I
do
compliment
representative
meredith
as
always
taking
on
a
tough
issue
and
getting
it
moving
here
through
the
legislature.
A
You're
welcome
any
other
comments
or
questions.
Senator
southworth.
B
Yes-
and
I
have
a
hard
time
just
with
all
of
the
deadline-
changes
that
have
been
over
the
last
two
three
years-
and
you
know
it's
just
what
we
cannot
really
solve,
but
do
we
know
like
what
exactly
is
was
will
be
the
date
certain
when
we
have
the
data
by
which
our
precincts
could
be
drawn.
I
the
census,
data,
obviously,
is
the
issue
here.
I've
never
yet
heard
for
a
fact:
do
we
have
it
all?
Do
we
not
even
have
it
all.
E
E
A
Sir,
all
right
next
on
the
agenda
is
we
have
the
meredith
brothers
here,
so
senator
steve
meredith
is
coming
forward
senate
bill.
127
is
a
bill
that
we're
going
to
hear
today
for
informational.
Only
so
all
sides
can
kind
of
digest
the
information
and
address
questions
and
concerns
with
the
sponsor.
I
think
it's
a
pertinent
issue
that
we'd
like
to
hear
before
our
committee,
so
senator
meredith.
The
floor
is
yours.
I
And
I
couldn't
help
but
note
senator
thayer's
comments
earlier.
So
if
the
county
judge
executive
at
grant
county
is
here,
I'd
ask
you
to
come.
I
Guess
I'm
just
not
that
lucky
today,
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
appear
for
this
committee
to
talk
about
senate
bill
127
and
as
an
introduction
that
I
really
like
a
little
bit
deeper
dive
on
our
economic
policy
for
kentucky
and
the
state
of
our
economy,
and
to
do
that,
I
need
to
share
a
war
story
with
you
and
I'm
sorry
to
do
that.
But
it
helps
put
this
whole
thing
into
context
for
us.
As
you
all
know,
I
was
a
hospital
administrator,
small
rural
hospital
in
kentucky,
and
I
got
the
job
in
1983.
I
1984.
We
had
a
massive
change
in
how
medicare
was
going
to
pay
for
services
and,
as
a
result,
it
placed
some
terrible
financial
harm
on
rural
hospitals.
For
the
first
time
in
the
history
of
our
hospital,
it's
open.
In
1951,
we
had
about
a
half
a
million
dollar
loss
now
to
a
small
rural
hospital
that
may
have
been
a
gazillion
whatever.
That
is,
but
it
was
monumental
and
we
had
to
adjust
for
it.
I
We
have
to
have
that
basic
service
there
for
communities,
but
to
do
that,
you
kind
of
had
to
sell
your
soul
because
they
said
we'll
let
you
survive,
but
you
have
to
limit
yourself
to
25
beds.
My
hospital
is
a
75
bed
facility
and
your
patients
can
only
stay
for
72
hours,
so
what
it
was
was
just
kind
of
hold
and
transfer,
and
I
decided
that's
not
the
future.
I
wanted
for
my
hospital.
I
I
I
So
I
asked
him
and
said:
well,
if
there's
a
way,
we
can
guarantee
that
you're
not
going
to
be
hurt
by
this
financially.
Would
you
allow
me
to
recruit
another
general
surgeon?
He
said
most.
Certainly
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
be
the
only
guy
here
and
do
this
365
days
a
year.
Certainly
I
would
say
fine
I'll
hire
you
I'll
pay.
You,
the
same
salary
you've
been
averaging
for
the
last
five
years
as
long
as
you're
productive.
You
know,
you'll
be
safe,
we'll
be
safe.
I
That's
just
the
beginning
of
tremendous
growth
for
our
hospital.
When
I
left
in
2013,
we
had
34
active
staff,
physicians,
four
general
surgeons,
orthopedics
ob,
gyn,
pulmonary
medicine,
ent
a
whole
host,
especially
you
don't
find
in
muscle,
rural
hospitals
and
the
very
primary
care
doctors
who
said
we
don't
want
to
recruit,
came
to
me
and
said.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
I
I
share
that
with
you,
because
shortly
after
that,
I
read
a
book
called
boom,
boomtown,
usa
and,
if
you're
in
a
real
community.
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
that
book,
because
it's
based
on
john
nash's
theory
of
economic
equilibrium,
and
you
know
to
illustrate
it
very
simply-
center
mills
from
chairman
mills.
Let's
say
that
you
and
I
are
both
in
the
dry
cleaning
business
and
we're
serving
a
population
of
say.
Fifty
thousand
hundred
we'll
do
a
hundred
thousand
I've
got.
Fifty
percent
of
the
market.
You've
got
fifty
percent
the
market.
I
I
So
now
our
population
grows
to
120
000.
We
still
only
have
50
of
the
market
east,
but
we
both
benefit
by
that
growth.
I
mentioned
that
because
I
think
that's
economic
policy
we
have
to
follow
in
in
kentucky
and
we
haven't
done
that.
We
usually
grow
at
the
disadvantage
of
everybody
else,
particularly
for
rural
communities,
and
you
don't
think.
It's
any
surprise.
Anybody
sit
in
this
community,
the
passion
I
have
for
rural
communities
and
what's
happened
in
our
economy
over
the
last
50
60
years.
I
It's
almost
possible
to
overcome
that
we
try,
but
it's
tragic
our
end
of
the
state,
the
western
state
tobacco,
such
a
big
big
income
producer
back
in
the
60s
and
70s.
You
know
we
killed
that
industry,
coal,
eastern
kentucky
and
western
tech.
We
killed
that
industry
and
even
though
we've
had
some
programs
in
place
to
try
to
replace
that
income,
it
hasn't
come
at
a
fast
enough
pace.
It
truly
hasn't.
I
Why
can't
we
grow
our
economy
in
rural
kentucky?
Why
is
it
such
a
struggle,
and
it
shouldn't
be
as
chairman
of
the
government
contract
review
committee,
and
some
of
you
have
served
on
that.
You
know
we
see
hundreds
of
contracts
every
month
and
the
majority
of
them
are
for
services
outside
the
state
of
kentucky.
I
We
have
a
great
dividends
growing
wider
every
day
you
know
our
richest
county
in
kentucky.
The
median
family
income
is
about
90,
000
or
poorest,
it's
about
20
000
and
that's
growing
each
and
every
day
you
know
I'm
really
proud
of
how
our
state
has
taken
on
the
issue
of
of
coven
and
how
we
reacted
to
it.
I
I
I
If
you
do
when
we
score
these
contracts-
and
you
know
the
way
our
contracts
are
awarded
here-
is
not
the
lowest
bid,
it's
the
best
bid
and
that's
subject
to
very
arbitrary
capricious
criteria
sometime,
but
as
we're
going
through
that
process.
Why
shouldn't
we
recognize
the
contributions
that
companies
make
when
they
have
their
headquarters
here,
so
this
bill
suggests,
if
you
do
we're
going
to
give
you
a
certain
number
of
percentage
points
in
recognition
of
that
doesn't
dilute
the
issue
about
the
bidding
of
the
contracts,
you
may
still
have
to
commit
the
price.
I
I
I
Sounds
pretty
simple
to
me:
I
have
a
fiscal
note
that
I'm
not
ready
to
release
at
this
point
in
time,
because
it
doesn't
measure
the
full
impact
this
of
this.
It
talks
about
how
it
may
increase
the
cost
of
bids,
but
gives
no
recognition
whatsoever
to
reducing
the
poverty
as
a
result
of
having
jobs
in
rural
communities
that
we've
never
had
before,
and
we
should.
It
goes
back
to
that
model.
I'll
share
with
you
about
our
hospital
to
move
this
state
forward.
You
have
to
increase
our
revenue
now,
there's
only
two
ways
to
do
that.
I
I
People
will
promote
that
rural
communities
are
treated
equally
to
urban
counterparts,
but
we're
not
I'm
sorry
we're
not
there's
an
inequity
there
that
never
has
been
recognized
and
been
addressed.
This
is
what
this
attempts
to
do.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
the
bill
since
its
introduction,
I've
had
some
groups
reach
out
to
me
and
say
we
got
some
concerns
with
it.
That's
why
mr
cheney's
here
today
and
if
I
could
I'll
allow
him
to
speak
to
that
I'll.
H
I
will
proverbially
be
brief.
I
say
that
every
every
single
time
and
leader
thayer
says
I
know
you're
not
going
to
be.
We
I
expected
to
be
here
today,
perhaps
testify
in
opposition
to
this
bill,
but
call
us
old-fashioned.
Typically,
if
the
league
has
an
issue
with
the
bill.
H
This
bill
was
originally
enacted.
I
believe
back
in
2009.
I
think
the
former
senator
from
shelby
gary
tapp
was
the
was
the
sponsor
of
the
the
legislation,
and
it
was
my
first
legislative
session
lobbying
and
we
missed
it
as
it
went
through
the.
It
was
a
big
miss
on
our
part
as
it
went
through
the
legislative
process,
but
it's
written
in
a
way
that
to
apply
to
city
and
county
governments
who
don't
fall
under
that
local
government
model
procurement
code.
H
H
With
regard
to
public
agencies,
cities
and
counties
in
the
process,
and
with
that
with
that
amendment,
I
believe
you're
planning
on
doing
a
committee
sub
today,
and
I
know
we're
we're
only
discussion
only
that
that
makes
us
support
this
piece
of
legislation
that
senator
meredith
is
carrying
with
that
with
that
amendment,
and
he
asked
me
to
be
here
today
to
testify
to
that,
and
we
were
really
appreciative
of
being
able
to
work
with
him
and
have
that
discussion
to
to
get
this
to
work
on
a
local
local
level.
I
And
I
certainly
appreciate
the
keiko
and
kentucky
league
of
cities
they
reached
out
to
me
very
early.
So
here's
our
issue
easy
solution.
We
fixed
it
prepared
the
sub,
but
since
then
I've
had
other
folks
reach
out
to
expressed
some
concerns,
and
I
wish
they
had
that
earlier,
potentially
or
principally
the
telecommunication
people
there's
a
solution
to
this
one
as
well,
but
unfortunately
I
haven't
been
able
to
rectify
that
with
them
and
and
try
to
bring
it
forward.
But
I
think
we
can
address
our
issue
as
well.
I
But
again
I
don't
want
this
distract
from
the
essence
of
this
bill.
It's,
I
think,
extremely
important.
Don't
have
to
remind
you,
folks
that
we
are
44th
in
median
income
in
the
united
states
of
those
counties
I
mentioned
that
are
below
the
median
for
family
income.
77
of
our
120
counties
fall
under
that.
You
know
from
our
census
numbers
that
we
just
received
that
rural
counties
are
struggling
and
with
the
added
burden
of
dealing
with
covert
it's
going
to
be
a
long
haul
for
rural
communities
and
kentucky
as
a
whole
cannot
survive.
I
I
I
So
what
I'm
asking
is
a
partnership
to
recognize
the
particular
financial
flight
of
rural
communities
and
give
us
a
fighting
chance
to
do
this?
We
don't
want
to
hand
out,
we
want
a
hand
up,
and
this
is
one
way
to
do
it
and
everyone
benefits
from
it.
You
know,
as
we
raise
our
economy
in
the
rural
communities,
we
will
be
able
to
eliminate
those
entitlement
payments
that
hamper
our
state
so
much.
You
know
I
hear
from
our
urban
areas
all
the
time
we
pay
so
much
in
taxes.
I
We
don't
get
our
fair
share
back
well,
you
might
counter
that
as
well,
particularly
my
area,
because
I'm
from
grayson
county
major
urban
areas
is
louisville
is
that
you
get
our
tax
dollar.
You
get
our
our
recreation
dollar.
You
get
our
healthcare
dollar.
You
you
get
our
our
workforce,
I'd
trade
with
you
in
a
moment
if
we
could
have
that
same
thing
well
by
lifting
up
our
rural
communities
and
those
everybody
benefits
from
this
we're
just
not
in
great
urban
centers,
will
be
extraordinary
urban
centers.
I
C
C
I
think
it's
great
that
the
league
and
caicos
concerns
have
been
satisfied,
but
they're,
a
government,
they're
government
groups,
and
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we
address
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
private
sector,
some
of
our
largest
employers
and
the
telecommunications
and
healthcare
side,
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
work
them
out.
Try
to
come
up
with
a
committee
sub
that
everybody
can
live
with.
So
hopefully
we
can
move
this
bill
forward
next
week.
C
So
I
understand
giving
an
incentive
on
on
scoring
people
higher
for
locating
in
in
rural
counties,
but
you
know
you're
absolutely
right
about
the
population
shift
in
the
state
and
I've.
I
live
it
where
I
live
in
georgetown,
fastest
growing
city
in
the
commonwealth
and
where
jd
lives
in
richmond
madison
county
is
growing
really
fast.
People
moving
moving
here
from
all
over
the
state,
especially
eastern
kentucky.
C
What?
If
my
largest
employer
toyota
got
to
bid
on
the
contract
to
have
state
cars?
A
toyota
is
our
largest
employer.
Everybody
knows
about
what
a
great
community
partner:
they
are
people
from
70
some
counties
work
at
toyota
and
georgetown.
How
would
that
affect
their
scoring
if
they
were
hypothetically
bidding
on
a
state
contract
for
the
toyota
camry
to
be
a
part
of
the
the
state
automotive
fleet.
I
So
it's
building
the
market,
bigger
and
using
illustration
I
deal
with
the
chairman
meals
about
if
we
make
it
bigger
for
everybody,
everyone
benefits
bad
will.
Some
people
have
to
sacrifice
a
little
bit
possibly,
but
I'm
telling
you
in
the
long
run.
This
is
the
only
strategy
that
works
is
a
symbiotic
one
where
everybody
benefits
from
it
and
that
should
be
the
trigger
for
any
legislation
that
we
pass.
C
Well,
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
work
you
do
with
some
of
the
private
sector.
Folks,
these
are
some
of
our
biggest
employers
and
you
know
we.
We
have
a
lot
of
great
employers
in
kentucky
who
don't
have
their
headquarters
here,
but
they
have
business
here
and
create
a
lot
of
jobs.
Let's
I
just
want
to
make
sure
they're
treated
fairly,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
this
bill
moving
in
the
next
week.
I
Well,
fairness
is
a
relative
term
and
you
know
I
say
the
same
thing
when
it
comes
to
rural
communities.
I
don't
think
we've
been
treated
fairly,
you
know
like
eliminating
tobacco.
We
all
know
the
the
ills
of
tobacco.
It
was
a
major
part
of
our
economy.
What
did
we
replace
it
with
same
way
with
coal?
I
C
J
I'd
like
to
actually
thank
senator
meredith
for
bringing
this
bill,
I
think
it's
something
that's
long
overdue,
and
you
know
I
do
agree
with
senator
thayer
that
we
do
want
to
to
to
continue
to
value
our
large
employers
who
invested
in
the
commonwealth,
but
at
the
same
time
we
also
have
to
look
at
that
senator
thayers
county
scott
county
also
benefits
from
you
know
large
interstate
highways
that
were
built
with
public
funds
that
go
through
their
county
that
enabled
these
large
employers
to
to
to
locate
there
and
some
places
like
senator
meredith's,
home
county
or
my
home
county
in
far
eastern
kentucky,
although
we
did,
you
know,
supply
tobacco
or
clean
it
or
coal
that
you
know
really
enabled
a
lot
of
this
stuff
to
happen.
J
You
know
some
of
those
improvements
that
have
allowed
other
areas
to
prosper
did
pass
us
by,
and
I
think
that
really
this
just
allows
us
to
to
compete
on
a
on
a
more
even
playing
field.
I
mean
look,
I
I
don't
like
to
you
know
I
had
a
a
a
conference
with
chfs
yesterday
and
you
know
one
of
the
main
things
I
see
is
medicaid
dollars.
J
You
know
what
the
number
two
substance
doled
out
is
suboxone
on
medicaid
and
you
know
I'm
I
mean
it
breaks
breaks
my
heart
to
see
that
that
you
know
not
only
is
this
drug
epidemic,
I
mean
it's
really
a
sign
of
folks
without
hope,
folks,
without
jobs.
J
Folks,
without
you
know
the
stability
necessary
to
raise
a
family
in
this
day
and
time
and
to
have
the
type
of
things
they
have
in
in
more
urban
areas,
with
with
greater
access
to
the
to
the
veins
and
arteries
of
the
modern
economy,
and
so
I
really
think
that
this
is
a
great
bill.
I
I
think
to
answer
senator
thayer's
concerns.
J
You
know,
there's
still
going
to
be
certain
things
like
you
know,
large
toyota
plants
that
are
always
going
to
be
able
to
to
supply
the
fleet,
we're
never
probably
going
to
have
a
small,
auto
manufacturer
in
a
in
a
rural
community.
That's
going
to
be
able
to
to
compete
on
that
same
level,
but
you
know
well,
but
on
other
on
other
things
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
that
suppliers
to
toyota
suppliers
to
of
of
of
other
usable-
I
know
the
aerospace
industry
in
kentucky-
has
become
a
great
thing.
J
I
I
want
to
quote
that's
nice,
actually,
a
quote
just
going
to
steal
from
his
literary
genius
and
that's
jesse
stewart,
and
he
said
that
these
united
states
can
be
called
a
body.
Kentucky
has
called
its
heart,
bring
it
on
home
if
kentucky
can
be
called
a
body.
I
think
rural
kentucky
is
the
heart
and
if
we
kill
the
heart,
what
happens
to
the
state
I'll
go
back
to
my
original
premise.
A
Very
good,
senator
mcdaniel
has
a
question
and
mr
cheney
needs
to
leave
to
go
to
testify
and
house
local
local
governments.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
senator
meredith.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this.
This
is
a
you
know
when
you're
a
kentucky-based
contractor
this
is
a
perpetual
is.
Is
this
a
sword
that
you
can
wield,
or
is
this
an
arrow
coming
at
you
kind
of
item,
especially
when
you
sit
in
a
border
town
like
we
do?
F
F
About
like
rupp
arena,
the
renovations
that
are
going
on
there,
because
I
think
that
that's
owned
by
the
city
of
lexington,
it
wouldn't
apply
to
them.
That's
part
of
the
change.
I
I
F
So
my
concern
arises
obviously,
when
you
think
about
contractors,
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
Most
of
those
are
small
medium-sized
businesses.
Some
are
regional
area
players
and
it
makes
it
concerns
me
because
a
lot
of
them
will
have
controlling
elements
that
sit
outside
of
the
commonwealth,
but
the
entirety
of
their
workforce
is
based
in
the
commonwealth.
F
Now,
typically,
it
is
more
in
your
urbanized
areas,
but
I
do
worry
about
those
folks
right
and
that
we
may
be
disadvantaging
contractors
who
locate
in
you
know:
northern
kentucky,
lexington
louisville,
paducah
types
of
regions,
boeing,
etc.
So
that's
where
my
concern
would
would
lie
at
this
point,
like
I
say
when
you're
a
kentucky-based
contractor
in
a
border
town.
You
always
wonder
this
is
an
arrow
coming
at
me
at
a
sword
for
me
and
it's
a
tough
balance
to
strike.
F
I
know
where
you're
going
with
it,
appreciate
the
effort
and
and
hope
I
can
work
with
you
too.
Moving
forward.
I
Well,
I
would
hope
you'd
look
at
the
example
I
gave
with
the
growth
of
my
medical
staff.
You
know
everybody
said
no
we're
we're
taking
care
of
everything.
What
if
we
dig
grow
our
population
by
50
in
kentucky?
What
impact
would
that
happen?
Those
same
businesses
you're
talking
about
and
yeah.
There
may
be
some
bumps
in
the
road,
but
I'm
saying
again
if
we
collectively
grow
this
state,
everyone
benefits
that
long
term.
F
G
G
This
is
also
protects
us
from,
or
gives
us
an
advantage
over
people
coming
from
out
of
state
this
scoring
system,
and
I
think,
senator
wheeler
addressed
one
of
my
things
about
senator
thayer
is
talking
about
georgetown
and
I
think,
when
toyota
came
in,
it
was
considered
rural,
so
this
scoring
that
you're
doing
would
have
helped
them
then.
G
So
I
think
that
I
think
it's
a
good
reason
for
center
there
to
want
to
vote
for
this
and
once
again,
what's
that
and
once
again,
senator
willer
mentioned
that
with
it
being
some
contracts
being
so
large
and
toyota
being
so
big
that
something
like
that
would
be
only
from
ford
from
louisville
or
toyota,
so
that
wouldn't
the
rural
community
scoring
extra
scoring
would
not
affect
georgetown
in
that
way
and
senator
mcdaniel's
hit
on
what
I
really
wanted
to
ask.
G
You
was,
if
you
have
a
headquarters
here,
then
you
get
a
extra
scoring.
If
you
have
production
facility,
you
have
extra
scoring
what,
if
you
have
neither
or
just
a
part-
and
you
have
a
whole
lot
of
employees
here-
in
other
words,
there's
a
lot
of
construction
companies
in
that
that
may
not
have
their
a
production
facility
and
they
may
be
in
indiana
or
tennessee,
but
they
hire
a
lot
of
kentucky
and
have
employees
here.
A
B
Thank
you,
I'm
listening
to
all
of
these
comments,
and
I
think
everybody
has
really
really
good
points
and
part
of
the
problem
that
we
have
up
here
in
frankfort
is
we
all
come
from
a
different
place,
and
so
we
have
a
different
starting
point
from
where
we
move
out
from
there.
B
So
make
sure
senator
mcdaniel
knows
when
I'm
in
the
contracts
committee
and
there's
northern
kentucky
area
that
needs
a
contract
and
they
have
a
cincinnati
contractor
and
they
we
have
this
big
flashy
neon
sign
that
says
foreign
entity,
but
I
glance
at
that,
and
I
know
what
it's
like
to
live
there
and
I
go
oh
and
I
don't
worry
about
it
and
same
thing
in
bowling
green
flashing
signs
on
the
nashville
outfit
well,
nashville
is
the
large
city
for
bowling
green,
and
so
I
feel
like
somehow
we
have
to
get
to
a
place.
B
We
want
to
bring
the
money
in
as
a
state
we
want
to
bring
in
a
state,
but
also
we
have
to
make
sure
it
works
for
those
people
who
do
live
out.
The
edges
which
we
have
a
lot
of,
but
my
particular
question.
I
want
to
ask:
was
this
number
10,
because
you
have
the
three
points
here:
two
points
there
and
five
points
somewhere
else
and
if
you
qualify
and
you
can
get
up
to
ten-
is
the
ten
percent
number
based
on
experience
from
other
states
other
areas
of
our
law
that
pre-exist,
I
know.
C
B
Much
as
I
like
this
idea,
I've
seen
it
where
the
bonus
is
tilting
things
out
of
proportion
to
where
you
get.
You
know,
sketchy
rfps
end
up
winning
the
score
because
of
a
bonus
point
system.
So
I'm
wondering
if
10
is
not
the
right
number
or
if
it
is
and
how
we
got
there.
I
I
certainly
gave
consideration
that
when
I
was
trying
to
determine
what
the
max
should
be-
and
I
don't
think
it's
reasonable
to
say:
okay,
let's
get
25
points
to
rule
kentucky.
I
I
I
thought
that
was
a
fair
number,
because
bear
in
mind
again
just
deciding
that
you're
going
to
be
in
a
real
community
is
just
part
of
the
decision.
You've
got
to
make
the
capital
investment
as
well
and
shouldn't.
We
recognize
that
capital
investment
so
again,
there's
no
science
to
it.
It's
just.
I
thought
this
was
a
fair
number
that
would
not
be
deemed
unreasonable
and
applied
mostly
when
we
have
close
bids
or
bids
that
are
tied,
mm-hmm.
A
B
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
on
the
scoring?
Do
we
have
any
data
at
all
to
show
how
close
our
bids
are
in
the
scores
when
they
come
back?
Are
they
typically?
I
mean?
I
know,
we've
heard
some
in
our
committee
50
difference
and
others.
I
wonder
if
they
are
mostly.
All
close.
I
mean
it's
hard
to
say
you
know,
I
just
wonder
if
we
have
any
kind
of
data
on
that.
I
Nope,
you
know,
supposedly
that's
determined
whenever
the
rfps
are
are
let
and
I
think
it
changes
from
each
rfp,
and
it
reminds
me
of
the
old
story
about
the
accountants
plan
for
a
job.
You
got
three
accountants
that
applying
for
the
same
job.
They're
asked
the
same
question.
What's
two
plus
two
and
the
first
two
answer,
four,
the
third
one
says:
what
do
you
want
it
to
be,
and
I
think
that's
our
scoring
guidelines
for
a
lot
of
these.
I
I
A
Very
good
senator
meredith.
Thank
you
so
much
for
testimony
and
the
good
questions
that
we
had
here.
I
would
just
repeat
that
senator
meredith
is
good
to
work
with
and
if
there
are
folks
that
have
concerns
with
this
bill
that
they
reach
out
to
you
and
ask
questions,
and
we
want
this
to
work
for
everybody
and
would
like
to
see
this
bill
back
in
the
future.
So
I.
I
Appreciate
the
influence
of
charity,
I
just
finished
with
you
know.
I
know
this
is
not
the
end
all
by
any
means,
but
where's.
The
starting
point,
if
this
doesn't
work,
show
me
the
strategy
that
will
and
I'm
tired
of
wallowing
here
at
the
bottom
of
every
social
economic
indicator
in
this
country.
It's
time
to
change
that
dynamic
and
it
has
to
think
with
those
most
disadvantaged
which
are
rural
communities.