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A
Transportation
senate
transportation
committee
meeting
of
the
session
we
have
several
bills
on
the
agenda
today.
We'll
get
started
right
away.
Madam
clerk,
if
you
don't
mind,
please
call
the
roll.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
as
usual,
I
failed
to
to
do
something
I
wanted
to
introduce
a
guest
this
morning
behind
me
is
matt,
divine
d9.
I
get
it
right.
One
these
days,
senator
elect
from
the
10th
senatorial
district,
hardin,
county
and
part
of
jefferson
I'd,
say
future
senator
elect,
so
he
has
filed
a
run
and
had
no
opposition.
So
I
just
want
to
welcome
him
to
our
meeting
this
morning.
Matt,
if
you
don't
mind,
stand
up,
everybody
know
who
you
are
there.
A
A
This
bill
simply
gives
kentucky
auto
dealers
the
ability
to
sell
vehicles
via
the
internet
and,
as
we
all
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
percentage
of
vehicles
being
sold
in
america
today
via
the
internet,
but
the
percentage
is
very
high
and
and
growing
and
and
the
bill
the
the
the
bill.
Simply
with
the
established
place
of
business.
An
auto
dealer
may
conduct
sales
activities
via
the
internet
and
deliver
vehicles
sold
or
leased
by
the
licensed
dealer
to
a
customer
at
the
customer's
residence
or
other
suitable
location.
A
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
senate
bill.
19
is
a
119,
is
a
bill
that
you've
heard
about
for
the
last
couple
years.
Last
year,
as
chairman
of
the
transportation
committee
and
and
in
conjunction
with
the
representative
of
church,
we
suspended
all
the
road
naming,
so
we
could
get
a
handle
on
road
namings
in
kentucky
and
and
we
wanted
we
wanted.
When
we
named
a
road
after
a
deceased
person
in
kentucky,
we
want
it
to
be
an
honor,
not
just
something
that
we
do
routinely
or
or
haphazardly.
A
We
want
it
to
be
an
honor
for
that
person,
who's.
That
is
an
honor
to
have
a
road
named
after
after
a
person,
that's
done
significant
things
for
the
community
or
the
state,
and
and
in
the
letter
that
you
received
earlier
this
year,
talking
about
the
what
we
had
decided
to
do
with
road
naming.
It
mentioned
that
we
would
do
some
statutory
changes.
A
couple,
statutory
changes
that
are
they're
fairly
simple
and
those
those
changes
in
include
the
process
by
which
kentucky
state
police
and
the
kentucky
department
of
transportation,
memorialized,
fallen.
A
D
C
D
Yes,
I
do
senator
higdon,
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
just
a
couple
of
remarks
and
a
quick
question.
I've
seen
you
know
this
pro
this
program
be
successful
and
I've
seen
it
be
sort
of
abused
and
some
of
my
counties
have
got.
D
You
know
signs
up
that
are
pretty,
I
guess
standardized
and
then
some
counties
will
come
through
and
they'll
be
20
feet,
high
or
off
the
side
of
the
bridge
or
different
colors
or
whatever,
and-
and
I
think
you're
right
for
if
we're
going
to
honor
somebody,
it
ought
to
be
more-
I
guess
maybe
professional
or
have
some
sort
of
standard
of
what
the
height
should
be
in
kind
of
color
design.
D
So
it's
more
uniform,
but
I
can
drive
across
many
places
in
my
district
and
it's
just
there's,
there's
no
rhyme
or
reason
to
some
of
them.
So
I
I
do
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
do
to
sort
of
standardize
that
and
hope
that's
part
of
the
intent
with
this,
but
I
did
notice
that
the
last
line
of
page
3
line
26-
we
are
by
this
bill-
gonna
name
the
dick
castle
bypass
after
former
representative
dick
castle.
D
Now
is
this:
are
we
going
to
put
if
other
namings
in
this
bill,
or
is
this
just
one
that
was
was
where
they'd
worked
on
it?
I
guess,
or
is
this.
A
C
E
E
F
C
F
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
and
I
had
to
go
to
another
committee
meeting
and
mr
chairman,
you
enjoy
your
first
meeting
as
chairman.
Thank.
A
C
You
senator
at
this
time
we'll
call
senate
bill
49,
senator
alvarado,
please
introduce
yourself
and
any
guests,
and
the
floor
is
yours.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman
ralph
alvarado
state
senate
28th
district.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
49.
This
is
a
bill
that
has
come
about
due
to
multiple
constituent
requests
and
concerns
regarding
uninsured
motorists.
G
G
It
says
here
I,
as
a
citizen
of
kentucky
and
furious
through
the
epidemic
of
non-insured
motorists
on
kentucky's
highways.
I
was
rear-ended
two
weeks
ago
by
a
person
with
no
car
insurance.
I
was
taken
to
the
hospital
examined
and
luckily
had
no
major
injuries.
It
was
close
to
six
thousand
dollars
worth
of
damage
to
my
car
plus
the
medical
bills
totaling
to
around
25
000
or
more.
Luckily,
I
had
full
coverage
insurance
on
my
car.
I
would
have
been
out
25
000
personally.
G
Our
state
government
is
negligent
in
protecting
the
law
abiding
citizens
of
kentucky,
because
there
is
nothing
in
kentucky
law
that
guarantees
the
at
fault.
Driver
truly
has
liability
insurance
to
cover
the
damages
he
causes
through
a
car
wreck.
This
is
the
part
that
concerns
me,
the
only
proactive
step
taken
by
the
state
of
kentucky
when
it
is
informed
that
a
vehicle
is
not
properly
insured
according
to
the
avis
system,
is
to
revoke
the
registration
of
that
vehicle.
That's
it.
G
According
to
the
information,
I've
read
as
the
county
attorney's
isn't
even
notified
of
a
revocation
of
the
registration
unless
it
has
been
revoked
three
times
within
a
12-month
period.
So,
according
to
the
current
status
of
kentucky
motor
vehicle
law,
I
can
stop
paying
my
insurance
for
my
car
and
not
only
not
until
90
days
later,
two
months
of
no
insurance
showing
on
my
vehicle
through
avis
and
30
days,
notice
required
by
krs
1868040.
G
Will
the
registration
for
my
vehicle
be
revoked.
Therefore,
unless
I
am
pulled
over
and
issued
a
citation,
I
won't
be
subject
to
criminal
prosecution
for
no
insurance,
so
I
can
renew
my
license
plate
just
before
it
expires
and
effectively
save
money
by
not
having
to
pay
for
car
insurance
for
approximately
nine
months.
To
me,
this
is
a
dangerous
kentucky.
Uninsured
driver
loophole
this
email
conversations.
G
I've
had
from
other
folks
brought
a
lot
of
concern
for
me,
and
we've
heard
these
stories
for
many
years
now
in
kentucky
and
people
keep
asking
for
something
to
be
done,
and
so
this
bill
is
an
attempt
to
do
that.
Current
law
requires
that
a
car
owner
to
have
insurance
at
the
time
of
registration
with
the
county
clerk
problem
lies
with
people
who
purchase
one
month's
worth
of
car
insurance
register
their
vehicles
and
then
cancel
their
policy.
Insurance
companies
report
their
book
of
business
to
dot
every
month.
G
This
is
then
cross
check
with
vin,
or
you
know,
vehicle
identification
numbers
to
determine
who
has
dropped
their
insurance.
There's
a
grace
period
permitted
for
people
who
may
be
changing
insurance
companies
or
just
had
forgotten
payment
for
a
month
and
by
month,
three
or
four.
The
department
of
transportation
then
notifies
the
motorist
that
they
are
not
insured
and
then
submits
a
notification
that,
if
not
updated
in
30
days,
the
department
of
transportation
shall
revoke
the
registration
of
the
vehicle
until
a
person
presents
proof
of
insurance
and
pays
the
reinstatement
fee.
G
This
can
occur
three
times
within
a
12-month
period
under
current
law,
before
a
county
attorney
can
step
in
and
take
action,
and
basically
it
disallows
county
attorneys
from
ever
taking
action
because,
as
the
year
goes
by,
it
gets
renewed
the
following
year,
so
senate
bill
49
removes
the
three
times
within
12
months
and
allows
county
attorneys
to
act
more
quickly
upon
that
first
notification
that
they
can
then
act
and
prosecute
individuals
who
are
not
paying
their
insurance
on
their
vehicles.
There's
also
a
senate
committee
substitute
mr
chairman,
maybe
you'd
like
to
take
action
on
that.
G
Is
adopted?
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
language
in
the
sub
is
a
request
from
the
department
of
transportation.
G
It
provides
the
reinstatement
fee
for
a
revoke
registration
of
fifty
dollars
with
a
breakdown,
as
noted
in
the
bill
before
you,
twenty
dollars
would
go
to
the
county
clerk
twenty
dollars,
the
department
of
vehicle
registration,
ten
dollars
to
kentucky
state
police
or
law
enforcement.
It
also
references
existing
statute
that
allows
law
enforcement
to
confiscate
license
plates
of
vehicles
with
revoked
registration.
G
That's
effectively
the
bill.
I
know
this
has
been
proposed
many
years
ago
by
we've
got
individuals
here
who
are
former
state
representatives
who
have
filed
this
bill
in
the
past,
and
so
I'm
bringing
it
forward
again,
and
hopefully
we
can
take
action
on
this
and
help
address
this
problem
in
the
commonwealth.
H
Senator
alvarado,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill.
I
do
think
it's
one
that's
necessary.
One
concern
I
have
had
with
discussion
of
one
of
our
colleagues
is
the
process
by
notif
of
notifying,
I
guess,
the
department
of
transportation
in
the
event
that
you
say
have
a
seasonal
vehicle.
I
know
my
father-in-law
has
a
jeep
that
you
know
sits
in
the
garage
through
the
winter
around
april.
He'll
call
have
it
added
to
his
insurance
and
then
he'll,
pull
it
off
september
october
and
put
it
back
in
the
garage.
H
Would
you
entertain
an
amendment
to
that
effect?
I.
G
H
G
To
take
a
look
at
it,
I
mean
I
would
entertain
any
changes
to
it,
but
the
I'm
not
aware
of
any
I
haven't
had
any
discussions
as
far
as
any
e-portal
seasonal
vehicles.
Anything
like
that.
Most
of
the
problems
that
we're
hearing
from
constituents
are
people
that
have
routine
vehicles
that
they
will
have
on
the
road,
and
we
know
the
routine.
I
mean.
Typically,
we
would
pay
for
a
monthly
fee
towards
paying
for
our
car
insurance.
G
H
I
totally
agree
with
you.
I
just
noticed
that
if
you
look
on
page,
I
think
it's
under
subsection
2a.
There
are
the
four
exceptions
mentioned,
and
it
says
that
one
that
the
person
has
paid
the
proof
presented
the
proof
of
interest
to
county
clerk.
Second,
one
is
notifying
him
that
the
vehicle
is
inoperable.
H
So
you
know
I
would
think
under
those
circumstances,
just
you
know
so
that
the
person
wouldn't
possibly
have
to
see
a
lawyer
to
draw
up
an
affidavit
or
something
it
might
make
some
sense
to
have
some
basic
for
a
basic
affidavit
for
him
in
the
clerk's
office
or
at
e
portal,
where
they
could
just
get
on
there
and
click
and
might
make
the
legislation
operate
a
little
bit
more
smoothly.
I
would
think.
G
Sure
that,
that's
all
I
know,
that's
all
existing
language
but
sure
I'd
be
open
to
that.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
hate
to
ask
some
questions,
but
I
think
I
need
to,
and
and
since
I'm
sure
you
probably
are
not
aware
of
this
or
maybe
but
it's
my
understanding-
that
a
lot
of
cities
have
this
ordinance
of
rules,
at
least
in
some
in
the
counties
I
live
in
that
says,
if
a
automobile
is
inoperable,
it
can't
be
parked
on
the
city
streets.
I
So
if
a
coal
miner
should
get
disabled,
then
all
he
has
this
truck
for
is
driving.
His
wife
drives
a
car
to
work
back
forth
every
day
and
they
don't
continue
the
insurance
or
we
had
all
those
thousands
of
people
that
was
laid
off
last
year
that
couldn't
buy
food
unless
pay
insurance
on
a
car
they
had
nowhere
to
go.
I
This
would
provide
then
that
their
ownership
of
that
vehicle,
even
they
own
it,
pay
the
taxes
on
it
because
the
insurance
got
canceled,
the
state,
police
or
another
organization
could
come
and
seize
the
tag,
and
then
the
city
could
make
them
take
that
off
of
the
street.
If
that's
true,
wouldn't
that
be
correct,
that's.
G
I
G
I
mean
it's,
it
depends
if
state
police
can
do
it,
they're
not
required
to
it's,
not
a
shall
it's
a
may.
So
if
law
enforcement
says
hey,
this
is
parked
an
area
that
needs
to
be
removed
and
hey
doesn't
have
any
registration,
they
could
confiscate
the
tag
and
probably
have
the
vehicle
moved
anyway,
depending
on
the
situation,
but
that's
already
current
existing
statute.
We're
not
adding
that
statute.
That's
already
what
state
police
can
can
do
if
you,
if
your
car
is
not
registered.
I
Well
but
mr
excuse
me,
senator
red
wheeler
read
some
exceptions
to
that.
Did
he
not
yeah
that
okay
and
my
question
is
but
all
those
people
that
I'm
naming
would
have
been
people
that
could
have
lost
their
tags
because
of
government
shutdown,
the
governor,
not
providing
unemployment
insurance,
which
would
have
provided
them
funds
to
to
pay
their
taxes
and
insurance
on
that
car?
G
I
mean
if
yeah
there's
lots
of
circumstances
senator
that
people
could
have
that
they
if
they
don't
pay
their
insurance
lots
of
economic
situations,
even
the
current
ones,
some
things
in
the
future,
potentially,
if
they're
driving
those
vehicles
around
without
insurance,
and
they
hurt
somebody
that
other
individual
also
could
be
having
economic
tough
times.
So
what
if
they
got
hit
by
someone
with
another
vehicle
that
didn't
have
that
I
mean
they
would
be
suffering
also.
So
I
understand
what
you're
saying
tough
times
can
be
tough
for
a
lot
of
folks
around
the
state.
G
But
if
you
wanted
to
drive
a
vehicle
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
we
require
by
our
laws
people
to
have
that
vehicle
insured
to
protect
other
people
as
well
as
people
inside
your
own
vehicle.
So
if
you're
referencing
current
statute
yeah,
if
they
don't
have
that
vehicle
registered,
they
buy
that
car,
they
pay
their
taxes,
they
don't
register
the
vehicle
and
they
park
it
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
the
same
thing
can
happen
for
them.
In
that
situation.
I
But
if
we
don't
fix
some
exception,
isn't
it
true
to
like
senator
wheeler
and
some
others?
The
government
caused
that
problem
last
year
and
they
would
be
punished
by
government
act
by
either
tags
being
seized,
couldn't
drive
their
car
have
to
get
it
off
the
street.
All
those
things
would
have
been
caused
by
unemployment,
not
being
taken
care
of.
I
G
I'm
not
sure
that's
a
statement
or
a
question:
it's
a
pretty
lengthy
comment
there.
So
it
depends
on
the
details
of
what's
being
proposed.
I
mean
I'd
be
happy
to
take
a
look
at
anything.
You
want
to
propose
this
bill's
been
out
there
for
five
weeks.
Mr
chairman,
it's
been
out
there
for
quite
a
while
for
commentary
and
for
issues.
So
if
there's
desires
for
the
aspects
of
things,
you
want
to
do
happy
to
take
a
look
at
proposals.
I
F
Thank
you,
sir.
Just
a
quick
question
from
personal
experience.
F
I
have
had
periods
of
time
where
I've
owned
honestly
too
many
cars
and
what
my
insurance
company
told
me
that
I
could
do
is
if
we're
going
to
use
one.
Let's
say
a
kid
comes
home
from
college
and
we're
going
to
use
a
car.
I
can
call
them
that
morning
put
insurance
on
it
for
the
week
or
two
that
that
kid
is
home
and
then
take
the
insurance
off.
How
does
this
fit
into
that
scheme?
I
mean
how
do
people
keep
up
with
what
I'm
doing
legally
under
these
new
rules?
Do
you
understand.
G
Yeah,
I
think
so
I
mean
let's
say:
if
you
wanted
to
say
you
got
a
car
sitting
in
a
garage.
It
has
a
license
plate.
I
would
imagine
so
it's
been
registered
at
some
point
in
time.
If
there's
no
active
registry
for
you
to
register
that
vehicle
every
year,
you
have
to
have
proof
of
insurance.
G
F
Want
to
have
an
insurance
company
would
allow
me,
since
I
had
a
number
of
other
cars
on
the
policy
to
just
add
or
drop
on
without
notice.
I
mean
I
could
just
call
them
and
say,
put
insurance
on
the
car,
I'm
going
to
be
using
it,
and
then
I
could
call
them
and
say:
take
insurance
off
the
car,
I'm
not
using
it
anymore,
but
that
didn't
affect
the
registration.
I
mean
the
car
still
sat
in
my
driveway.
G
Yeah,
so
if
your
vehicles
again
that's
what
I
described
earlier
in
my
comments
is,
if
you
have,
the
car
registered,
what's
required
by
state
law
is
to
have
insurance
on
the
vehicle.
If
you
have
it
for
a
month
and
then
you
don't
keep
it
up
for
whatever
reason
you
discontinue
it,
you
let
it
go
that
the
book
of
business
that
the
insurance
companies
have
get
reported
to
the
state
every
month,
and
so
they'll
say
this
one
had
insurance.
Now
it
no
longer
has
insurance
anymore.
G
So
then
dot
will
have
that
they
typically
give
us
about
three
months
period,
because
people
might
switch
insurance.
There
might
be
different
things
that
go
on
so
by
month,
three
or
four.
They
notify
your
local
county
clerk.
This
vehicle
is
no
longer,
it's
registered,
doesn't
have
insurance
on
it,
so
it
would
allow
state
police.
Could
I
mean
if
you
have
it
parked
in
a
garage
or
parked
it
somewhere,
where
it's
not
being
used?
I
don't
think
that
state,
police
or
law
enforcement's
going
to
come
on
your
property
to
take
the
tags
from
it.
G
They
can
I
mean
suppose,
if
it's
on
a
public
area,
they
find
that
it's
you
don't
have
active
registration,
they
can
remove
the
tags
by
current
state
law.
What
this
is
going
to
say
is
that
if
you
don't
have
it
at
that
point
in
time
either
you
need
to
let
county
clerk
not
have
the
vehicle
registered
at
some
point,
but
if
you
still
have
it
actively
registered
it's
technically
breaking
the
law,
if
you're
going
to
have
in
you,
don't
have
insurance
on
that
vehicle
as
far
as
being
used.
G
So
that's
what
current
law
is
for
the
state
effectively,
so
people
are
saying
I'm
going
to
have
it
for
a
month
and
then
take
it
away.
You
know
we
need
to
probably
card
you
know
if
they
want
to
be.
I
want
to
be
registered
and
be
compliant
with
the
law.
You
have
to
have
insurance
on
the
vehicle
because
at
some
point,
if
somebody
jumps
in
it
uses
it
something
along
those
lines,
you
know
again,
we
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
this
across
the
state.
It's
a
much
bigger
problem.
G
I
don't
nearly
hear
people
saying:
oh
I've,
I
don't
haven't
paid
insurance.
Someone
might
come
in
and
take
care
of
it
because
there's
no
repercussions
for
that
right
now.
So
we're
trying
to
say
hey.
If
you
have
a
vehicle
it's
registered
with
the
state,
you
have
insurance.
If
you're
not
going
to
use
it,
then
don't
use
it,
they
don't
get
it
insured.
At
that
point,.
C
J
E
H
I'd
like
to
address
it
to
the
mr
onodu
at
the
cabinet,
you
may
have
heard
my
earlier
question.
Senator
alvarado
would
would
the
cabinet
be
able
to
do
some
type
of
portal
where
maybe
in
dr
berg's
case,
somebody
could
could
log
on
quickly
and
maybe
e-sign
an
affidavit
with
these
four
exceptions
listed,
so
that
it
would
be
easier
for
someone
to
comply
with
this,
because
I
mean
I
think
the
last
thing
is.
H
What
we
want
is
for
people
like
dr
berg
and
senator
turner,
who
are
or
my
father-in-law,
who
act
in
good
faith
and
just
seasonally
use
their
cars,
but
are
trying
to
be.
You
know,
watch
their
pennies,
which
is
a
good
thing
being
economically
efficient.
J
Senator
weber,
thanks
for
the
question
currently,
we
can
do
that,
I'm
not
technically
serving,
but
in
our
website
we
have
various
affidavits
that
individuals
use
now
that
relates
to
transactions
with
vehicles.
So
we
can
develop
an
a
form
and
we
can
work
towards
that
in
conjunction
with
our
iit
groups,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
on
on
our
website.
C
I
I'm
going
to
vote,
I
based
upon
the
good
grace
of
everybody
wanting
to
work
and
get
a
bill
that's
suitable
through
I
mean
I
look
at
the
farmer
who
never
takes
a
piece
of
his
vehicle
out
on
nowhere
except
the
farm
property,
but
when
you
pay
the
taxes
on
that
vehicle
and
you
pay
the
upkeep
and
all
that,
but
you're
never
going
to
have
it
on
the
roadway.
That's
the
persons
and
and
there's
others
that
I'm
interested
in.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
aye.
I
C
C
E
E
There,
it
is
excuse
me,
on
september
27th,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
this
committee
of
this
year
I
was
notified.
I
think
I
actually
saw
media
accounts
that
the
governor
planned
on
closing
the
road.
E
We
call
it
the
road
between
the
annex
and
the
capitol,
and
I
think
most
members
are
aware
of
the
road
I'm
talking
about,
and
I
wrote
the
governor
this
letter.
I
said
dear
governor
beshear,
it's
come
to
my
attention
that
your
administration
plans
on
closing
the
road
between
the
capitol
building
and
the
capital
annex
for
security
reasons.
E
E
E
The
floor
clock
rose
garden
without
getting
out
of
their
cars
in
the
winter
time
they
enjoy
the
same
experience
with
the
beautiful
christmas
decorations
that
adorn
the
state
capital.
Annex
the
capitol
and
annex
and
governor's
matching
closing
this
road
would
severely
restrict
this
experience.
For
our
seniors.
E
However,
security
concerns
must
always
be
balanced,
with
the
need
for
an
open
government
in
a
representative
republic.
Security
concerns
achieved
can
be
achieved
by
other
means
by
closing
this
vital
road,
and
I
will
not
go
into
detail,
but
I
al
without
closing
this
vital
road,
but
I
also
have
some
recommendations
as
far
as
that's
concerned.
E
I
have
the
letter
and
I'm
going
to
submit
both
letters
for
the
record,
but
he
basically
just
politely
said
he
disagreed
with
me
on
the
matter
and
thanked
me
for
communicating
with
him
there's
one
other
thing,
I'd
like
to
just
add
and
as
a
state
senator
I
have
really
enjoyed,
I
call
them
adult
field
trips
where
I
have
people
from
my
district
come
down
and
visit
the
state
capitol.
I
usually
do
it
during
their
interim
and
it's
amazing.
The
turnout
I
have,
and
most
of
them
are
senior
citizens.
Most
of
them
are
senior
citizens.
E
We
come
down
to
the
capitol
and
many
of
them
can't
get
out
of
their
cars.
It's
amazing
and
choose
not
to
get
out
of
their
cars,
so
I
think
that's
something
maybe
that
the
governor
didn't
think
of.
I
know
he
carries
the
seniors
much
like
I
do
so
that
is
the
bill.
Mr
chairman
and
member
of
the
committee.
H
Senator
schickel,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
I
agree
with
everything
you
just
said,
and
I,
although
I
do
understand
the
need
for
security,
that
there
is
a
balance
to
be
struck
in
protecting
our
individual
freedoms,
and
I
think
we
have
seen
the
pendulum
swing
a
little
bit
too
far
towards
security
and
in
the
last
several
years
you
know
I
mean
we
see
a
fence,
go
up
around
the
governor's
match
and
we
see
this
road
go
off
and
I
mean
it
really.
H
We
see
more
locks
on
the
on
on
the
annex
and
the
capital.
You
know
the
the
the
annex,
tunnels
now
blocked
off.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different.
I
guess
even
the
capital
gift
shop
that
used
to
be
in
there
is
now
closed.
H
So
I
I
see
these
things
as
is
very
sad
and
and
very
unfortunate,
and
I
think
there
are
things
that
that
we
do
need
to
as
the
representatives
of
the
people
to
give
voice
to
their
concerns,
to
let
them
know
that
we
have
an
open
governments.
H
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
and
you
know
I
I,
to
the
extent
that
you
know
there
are
some
security
concerns.
You
know
with
the
road
that
being
opened
in
between
the
capital,
the
annex,
I
guess
I
would
just
point
out
that
you
know
there's
a
road,
that's
still
open.
That
goes
right
out
around
behind
the
annex
kind
of
where
my
office
is
located.
So
you
know
I
guess
maybe
he
doesn't
care
as
much
about
me.
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
teasing.
H
I
know
that's
a
joke,
but
all
that
being
said,
I
do
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill.
I
think
it
I
think
it.
I
think
it
complies
with
the
and
supports
the
intent
of
our
our
founders
and
our
drafters
of
our
state
constitution
to
have
an
open
government,
and
I
proudly
support
this
bill.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
The
only
thing
I
would
add,
mr
chairman,
with
your
permission,
I
would
like
to
submit
the
letters
the
letters
for
the
record
to
the
governor
and
from
the
governor.
F
Thank
you,
sir,
was
this
part
of
a
series
of
recommendations
that
were
made
to
improve
security
around
the
the
the
site
or
where
did
this
come
from.
E
I
did
a
little
digging
and
you
hear
different
versions,
but
that's
true
with
most
things
around
here,
but
the
letter
refers
to
a
recommendation
from
the
security
security
task
force,
but
when
I
talked
to
at
least
to
the
senate
member
of
the
security
task
force,
he
informed
me
that
it
was
never
the
recommendation
to
close
that
road,
at
least
in
his
mind,
and
that
and
this
bill,
if
you
read
this
bill,
this,
the
bill
does
provide
for
them
to
close
the
road
if
they
need
to.
E
If
there's
an
emergency
or
the
road
needs
to
be
closed,
obviously
we
need
to
close
it,
but
that
was
never
the
intention.
The
other
thing
was
is
when
I
talked
to
senate
leadership
about
it.
They
said
that
the
the
meeting
where
this
was
actually
decided
with
the
governor's
representation
there
was
no
elected
state,
senator
or
state
representative.
At
that
meeting
it
was
just
simply
staff
which
troubled
me
a
bit,
but
I
think
everyone's
acted
in
good
faith.
It's
like
senator
wheeler,
so
eloquently
said.
E
C
F
Thank
you.
I
am
gonna
vote
I,
but
I
will
tell
you
guys
you
are
giving
me
really
hard
hard
issues
this
morning
and
I
mean
it
I
mean
it.
I
mean
I
agree
that
you
want
government
to
be
open
and
you
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
feels
like
they
have
access
to
these
buildings.
I
think
that
is
essentially
important.
I
mean,
on
the
other
hand,
you
do
have
to
weigh
the
risks,
and
you
know
in
in
my
worlds,
particularly
in
our
jewish
congregations.
F
We've
had
things
like
this
for
years
and
years
and
years.
You
know
where
you
can't
drive
up
too
close
to
the
building,
and
you
can't
you
know.
I
mean
there's
reasons
to
do
that.
So
I
hope
I'm
making
the
right
decision
and
thank
you.
K
As
senator
now
represents
franklin
county,
I
really
appreciate
the
senator
from
boone
getting
one
of
my
roads
open,
and
I
just
encourage
him
to
work
in
the
future
to
help
me
on
my
road
projects
and
get
those
through
and-
and
this
is
a
good
bill
and
there
does
need
to
be
a
balance,
and
I
think
the
road
this
bill
is
exactly
on
target.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
I
cast
my
vote
and
just
appreciate
the
senator
bringing
us
to
us.
I
also
I
was
concerned
about
this
originally
because
of
ada
standards
for
the
the
american
disability
having
access
and
if
you
walk
around,
that
building
it'd
be
rather
difficult
for
one
of
our
veterans
or
elderly
or
someone
with
a
medical
condition
and
has
to
be
helped
in
a
chair
to
really
get
all
the
way
around
to
be
able
to
get
into
to
participate
in
their
government.
So
coming
in
the
front
of
that.
Capital
is
not
easy.
I
I
vote
I,
I
appreciate
this
bill
and
I
also
agree
with,
what's
previously
been
said
and
as
a
american
veteran,
this
is
not
iran
or
afghanistan
or
somewhere,
where
we
got
to
be
in
a
secured
post.
This
is
america,
freedom,
controls
and
the
public
has
a
right
to
be
here.
There
are
what
you
said
times
when
it
might
need
to
be
secured,
but
I'm
proud
to
vote
I
and
support
this
bill
fully.
H
Mr
chairman
explain
my
eye
vote.
Yes,
please.
I
want
to
just
commend
this
great
bipartisan
show
of
openness
that
we've
seen
here
in
this
committee
today,
especially
senator
berg,
knowing
what
the
jewish
people
have
suffered
through
the
years,
her
commitment
to
open
government
and
senator
schickel's
long-standing
commitment
to
open
government
and
freedom.
I
think
that
this
bill
really
does
send
the
right
message
that
we
that
frankfurt
is,
is
your
capital,
and
we
welcome
you
here.