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B
If
you
want
that
was
elijah
turado,
he
is
one
of
our
guests
up
here
today,
so
we
thought
it's
only
appropriate
for
our
our
youth
to
open
up
the
meeting,
and
then
we
do
have
a
senior
one
that
is
also
representing
our
military.
We
will
get
to
him
in
just
a
sec
there,
so
we're
excited
that
y'all
are
part
of
military
kids
day.
B
You
all
have
a
full
agenda,
many
of
you
out
there
and
today
we're
going
to
hear
four
bills
and
we're
gonna
honor
a
distinguished
guest
here
in
in
just
a
sec,
but
at
this
time
we
will
go
ahead
and
he's
elijah's
already
called
the
store.
So,
madam
or
mr
secretary,
let's
make
sure
we
have
a
quorum
here.
A
B
The
room
yeah,
okay,
we
made
it
and-
and
I
do
want
to
apologize-
what
you
see
is
people
they.
They
love
the
military
in
here
and
they
want
to
be
here.
Unfortunately,
10
o'clock
is
the
exact
same
time
with
anr,
which
has
some
important
issues
financially
to
discuss
so
they're
meeting.
At
the
exact
same
time
we
are,
and
so
you
will
see
committee
members
come
in
and
kind
of
take
a
vote
and
then
leave
and
go
back
there
and
take
a
vote.
So
a
lot
of
us
are
on
multiple
committees.
B
So
with
that
sir,
would
you
lead
us
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance
and
then,
if,
if
so,
let's
remain
standing
and
I've
asked
representative
attack
at
lafferty
to
lead
us
in
prayer.
H
H
H
May
they
always
be
filled
with
servants
hearts
and
seek
the
courage
and
the
patience
to
work
together
to
do
what's
right
for
kentucky
and
last
but
not
least,
I
pray
that
all
in
good
times
and
in
find
comfort
in
a
relationship
with
you,
may
they
bring
you
their
blessings
and
their
burdens,
and
may
they
see
the
path
of
prosper
that
you
have
planned
for
them
in
jesus
name.
I
pray,
amen,
amen,.
B
All
righty:
well,
we
have
an
exciting
agenda.
Today
we
have
a
lot
of
military
kids.
Here
right
now
we
have
a
distinguished
guest
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
representative
massey,
to
introduce
you
and
and
we're
so
glad,
we've.
That's
why
we
brought
such
a
big
crowd
just
to
honor
you
in
a
sex,
sir.
So
go
ahead.
Representative
massey.
F
F
F
He
served
as
an
infantry
officer
in
the
4th
marine
regiment
6th
division
during
world
war
ii.
That's
just
the
start,
twice
wounded
during
the
okinawa
campaign.
He
recovered
and
participated
in
the
initial
landing
by
allied
forces
on
japanese
shores.
He
was
awarded
the
purple
heart
and
the
presidential
unit
citation.
F
So
we
have
a
valid
true
hero
here,
a
world
war
ii
person
that
served
in
world
war
ii
and
not
only
that-
and
I'm
not
I'm
going
to
get
to
this
at
the
very
end,
but
he's
here
today
as
a
centurion
because
he's
100
years
old.
F
He
was
director
of
the
kentucky
state
police,
and
that
is
why
we
have
so
many
troopers
here
with
us
today.
He
served
major
roles
in
improving
the
public
perception
and
appreciation
of
state
troopers
and
increasing
their
pay
and
benefits,
and
was
one
of
the
founders
of
the
college
of
justice
and
safety
at
eastern
kentucky
university.
F
F
He
began
working
for
keeneland
after
that,
because
that
just
wasn't
enough
and
from
1968
until
1986
he
was
at
keeneland.
Initially
as
the
assistant
to
lee
hagen
ii,
lewis
lee
hagan
ii
in
1969,
he
became
the
president
of
keeneland
and
he
served
in
that
capacity
until
1986
when
he
became
the
chair
of
the
board
in
2003
he
became
a
keeneland
trustee
and
he
now
holds
the
title
of
trustee
emeritus
the
entirety
of
his
kingland
tenure,
currently
spans
42
years
and
coincides
with
the
association's
greatest
period
of
growth.
F
F
He
is
recipient
of
the
eclipse
award
of
merit.
The
lord
derby
award,
the
u.s
marine
corps,
semper
fidelis
award
and
the
department
of
the
navy
superior
public
service
award.
He
holds
honorary
degrees
from
the
university
of
kentucky
and
transylvania
and
eastern
kentucky
universities
and
even
more
personal.
F
He
was
married
for
65
years
and
his
wife
was
also
very
involved
in
the
racing
industry
and
there's
much
about
her
that
you
can
look
up,
but
she
was
a
wonderful
woman
that
I
never
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
but
have
heard
so
much
about.
Unfortunately,
she
passed
from
us
in
2016.,
but
today
mr
bassett
still
works.
Believe
it
or
not.
We
talk
about
workforce
development.
F
F
He
is
such
an
honorable
man
to
meet.
I
get
giddy
every
time,
I'm
around
him,
because
he
is
not
just
a
a
member
of
military
honor,
but
he
is
a
true
hero
to
kentucky
on
so
many
levels
and
as
part
of
the
rich
heritage
that
we
have
in
kentucky,
especially
around
horse
racing
and
its
involvement.
So
with
that,
I
give
to
you-
and
I
hope
he'll
make
some
comments
here.
James
e
ted,
bassett
iii.
I
I'm
pleased
really
to
make
it,
but
every
day
I
I
feel
like
I'm
some
sort
of
creep
walking
around,
but
I
I
can't
tell
you
how
pleased
I
am
to
be
here
and
to
be
selected
considered
for
this
very
fine,
honor
and
driving
down
today
with
a
former
state
policeman.
I
I
I
can't
ever
forget
when
pete
wadner
was
made,
commissioner
of
the
kentucky
state
police,
he
was
not
a
native
kentuckian.
He
was
a
from
all
philadelphia
family,
wealthy
family
he's
a
police
buff.
He
took
a
great
interest
in
it
and
was
head
of
the
fayette
county
patrol
when
he
became
director
of
the
state
police.
I
I
He
said
well
he's
gus
gay
son-in-law.
This
is
my
father-in-law
lived
in
woodford
county
gus.
Gay
he's
fought
me
in
every
election.
I've
ever
run
into
I'm
not
gonna
point
his
boy
in
here.
That
was
my
introduction
to
state
government,
but
it
was
a
wonderful
experience.
I
had-
and
I
admire
all
of
you
here
for
your
service
to
the
state
to
the
commonwealth,
and
I
can't
thank
you
enough
for
this
very
distinguished
honor
and
the
honor
of
being
here
present
with
you
today.
B
Thank
you
so
much
sir.
We
appreciate
we
do
have
just
a
token
of
our
appreciation
for
you,
representative.
Oh
I'm
sorry
I
was
going
to
have
you
come
up
but
representative
belan,
please!
Yes,
if
you
have
questions
or
more
comments,
I'm
sure.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
welcome
mr
bassett,
I'm
honored
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
see
you
once
again
I
come
to
know
ted
bassett
prior
to
1990,
when
I
went
into
the
state
police
academy
through
a
family
member
of
mine,
johnny,
howard
and
so
ted
bassett
was
laid
out
to
me
as
a
legend
by
mr
howard.
But
when
I
got
to
the
state
police
academy,
I
saw
all
the
work
that
he
had.
Did
you
know?
J
J
He
has
been
a
huge
influence
in
the
kentucky
state
police
becoming
what
they
are
today
and
ted
bassett
amongst
those
that
were
the
great
uniform
is
a
legend
is
a
legend.
He
was
telling
me
in
the
hallway,
when
he
first
came
associated
with
the
state
police
that
they
were
paying
178
dollars
a
month
to
the
troopers.
J
If
the
senate
will
hold
to
our
house
recommendation
those
troopers
that
we're
making
178
dollars
in
your
day
when
it
passes,
will
be
making
over
55
000
starting
out,
and
we
do
that
because
of
the
leadership
that
you
showed
back
then
that
carries
through
to
today-
and
it's
been
an
honor
and
a
great
privilege
of
my
life
to
be
able
to
when
somebody
mentions
the
name
ted
bassett,
I
can
say
I
know
that
gentleman,
fine
man,
legend
amongst
everybody,
he
comes
into
contact
with
with
everything
he
touches
so
for
that
today,
mr
bassett,
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
J
B
Mr
bassett,
this
is
where
we
normally
take
a
group
picture,
but
I
would
like
to
invite
all
the
state,
police
and
state
troopers
up
here
to
join
with
them.
If
you
would
and
representative
bland,
if
you
would,
I
was
trying
to
get
in
touch
with
representative
fugit,
but
he's
over
in
a
r
was
hoping
he'd
get
over
here
in
time,
but
I'll
gather
for
a
picture
there
and,
and
just
a
small
token
of
our.
F
Before
just
because
it
said
before,
I'm
giddy
about
being
around
you
you're,
just
an
amazing
individual
and
jason
was
kind
enough.
Jason
palmer,
who
was
on
capitol
security
who's
here
today,
was
kind
enough
to
introduce
me
to
you
and-
and
I
just
had
a
wonderful
experience-
I've
not
forgotten
that.
I
appreciate
the
book
and
all
the
stories
we
have
here
today
for
you
from
the
d-map,
a
veteran's
challenge
coin
that
we're
gonna
present
to
you.
F
That's
never
enough
for
a
guy
that
brought
the
queen
of
england
to
kentucky,
but
we
want
to
get
a
photograph
with
you.
We
cherish
you
you're
welcome
back
here
anytime,
and
we
are.
H
F
Glad
we
know
we
couldn't
get
you
here
during
covet.
You,
I
think
you
said
what
he
said
was
well.
I
had
to
cancel
my
100th
birthday
party,
so
I
don't
think
it
would
be
good
for
me
to
show
up
in
the
capitol
for
me
we're
glad
to
have
you
today
and
we
hope
you
get
many
many
more
years
with
us
and
here's
your
coin,
sir.
B
Do
we,
I
think
everyone
got
some
pictures
there,
but
we
appreciate
him
being
here.
B
B
You
boy,
I
hope,
I'm
doing
that
at
100.
He
picks
up
his
cane
like
I
don't
need
this
might
be
more
of
a
weapon
than
a
stapling
device,
all
right
we're
going
to
do
something
a
little
unusual
too.
We
obviously
many
of
y'all
are
here
for
military
kids
days.
So
I've
asked
caleb
hasla
he's
going
to
come
and
up
and
hold
a
microphone
if
each
one
of
the
kids
would
just
come
up
and
we
we're
kind
of
short
on
time.
B
We
got
to
have
you
over
the
capitol
by
11,
but
if
you
just
want
to
say
your
name
and
where
you're
from
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
not
where
you
originally
started
this
venture,
but
if
y'all
want
to
kind
of
start
on
y'all's
side
larry
or
so
if
you
can
get
some
of
the
kids,
if
you
all
want
to
come
up
and
just
say
your
name
and
where
you're
from
real
quickly
come
on
up
y'all
elijah
start
things
off
your
front
row
buddy.
B
A
I'm
johnny
and
I'm
johnny
banks
and
I'm
I'm
from
kentucky
all
right.
B
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
everyone.
For
being
here,
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
on
some
bills.
That's
it's
a
week.
We
got
everyone
through
in
20
minutes,
25
minutes,
that's
not
too
bad
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
house
bill
326.
This
is
the
honor.
Remember,
flag,
representative
pruntny
come
on
up,
introduce
your
guest
and
I
think,
do
you
have
someone
virtually
too
okay,
okay,
we'll
let
you
run
through
and
introduce
everyone
and
then
please
proceed.
M
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
Mr
chairman,
I'm
melinda,
gibbons
state
representative
for
the
15th
district
y'all
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourselves.
N
You're
with
I'm
charlotte
ball,
the
state
director
for
the
kentucky
chapter
of
honor
and
remember,
and
a
united
states.
O
P
Yourself,
my
name
is
george
lutz,
I'm
a
gold
star.
Can
you
hear
me
hello,
yeah.
M
M
The
honorary
member
flag
was
brought
to
me
by
air
force
veteran
charlotte
ball,
who
you
just
met
now
on
zoom.
She
shared
with
me
about
her
cousin,
eric
bivens
specialist,
eric
bivens,
born
and
raised
in
muhlenberg
county
who
served
in
operation
iraqi
freedom,
but
had
died
in
2017
as
a
result
of
ptsd.
M
Charlotte
also
was
a
part
of
organizing
the
honor,
remember
inaugural
run
for
the
fallen.
That
has
now
become
an
annual
event
in
kentucky
for
those
of
you
who
have
served
on
this
committee
for
a
while.
This
bill
is
not
new
to
you.
It
is
passed
out
of
the
house
on
multiple
occasions,
each
time
with
zero,
nay
votes.
M
The
bill
would
designate
the
honorary
member
flag,
which
the
girls
have
brought
with
him
as
the
emblem
of
service
and
sacrifice
of
the
brave
men
and
women
of
the
united
states
armed
services,
who
have
made
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
whether
directly
in
the
line
of
duty
or
as
a
result
of
dying
from
the
battle
within.
But
I
will
let
the
others
explain
that
nothing
would
be
mandatory.
The
language
says:
may
the
bill
list
the
locations
where
it
could
be
flown?
M
M
The
bill
would
require
that
the
flag
be
made
in
the
usa
and
administrative
regs
or
ordinances
would
be
promulgated
by
the
respective
agency
or
local
governing
body
that
would
oversee
when
it's
flown.
The
bill
also
says
that
an
employee
shall
not
be
required
to
report
to
work
solely
to
display
the
flag.
At
this
time.
I'm
going
to
ask
sergeant
deeds
sam
to
speak
on
the
bill.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today.
My
name
is
samuel
deeds,
a
retired
gunnery
sergeant
from
united
states
marine
corps.
To
date,
I've
had
44
surgeries
due
to
injuries
sustained
in
iraq.
G
First
and
foremost,
this
isn't
to
replace
the
american
flag.
There
there's
no
symbol
out
there.
That
can
do
that.
I
believe
in
that
flag,
so
much
that
I
have
it
tattooed
on
my
body,
and
I
will
have
it
with
me
for
the
rest
of
my
life.
G
G
B
G
G
K
Q
We
fully
support
the
american
flag
and
the
honor
and
remember
flag
in
no
way
replaces
the
american
flag.
Without
the
men
and
women
who
make
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
we
would
not
be
able
to
show
our
love
for
this
country
or
what
this
country
stands
for.
We
lost
our
father
in
2017
and
were
presented
with
a
folded
flag.
Q
Once
that
flag
is
folded,
it
is
never
to
be
opened
again.
The
honor
and
remember
flag
is
made
to
never
be
folded
again.
It
is
flown
proudly
under
the
american
flag.
It
is
to
honor
not
only
the
sacrifice,
not
only
the
hero
sacrifice,
but
the
family
sacrifice
as
well.
This
shows
that
their
hero
is
gone,
but
never
forgotten.
Q
Q
Q
K
We
have
presented
flags
to
families,
we
run
with
the
run
for
the
fallen.
We
stop
at
every
mile
and
every
name
is
said
and
getting
to
just
see
the
families
and
knowing
that
they're
we're
not
the
only
ones,
because
we
are
a
military
family
that
lost
our
dad.
So
we
know
that
we're
not
the
only
ones
and
just
being
able
to
present
to
them
and
call
out
their
fallen
soldier's
name.
Q
M
And
I'd
like
to
note
that
their
mom
cami
is
in
the
audience
as
well
george,
would
you
like
to
make
a
few
comments.
P
I
say
my
signal
may
be
weak,
so
forgive
me
for
that
see.
If
I
can't
get
through
this,
I
can
send
a
a
printed
copy
of
of
what
I
say.
My
remarks
if
you'd
like,
but
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
chairman
in
committee
I
had
mentioned
before
my
name
is
a
george,
lutz
gold,
star,
father
and
founder
of
the
honorable
organization,
and
this
all
started
when
my
son
was
killed
in
2005
and
I
went
on
a
search
basically
to
find
something
that
I
could
embrace.
That
would
mitigate
my
pain.
P
P
I
began
to
attend
all
too
frequently
local
funerals
of
you
know
military
service
members
and
the
reason
I
went
there
was
because
I
wanted
to
meet
with
families
and
let
them
know
that
they
weren't
alone
that
they
weren't
going
through
this
grieving
process
without
others
having
gone
through
it
before
them,
and
after
two
years
of
attending
funerals
and
and
trying
to
bring
comfort
and
healing
not
only
to
them.
But
to
myself.
P
I
began
to
hear
the
same
phrases
over
and
over
from
these
families.
The
same
comments
I
mean
that
you
know,
obviously
it's
something
that
has
common
ground,
but
those
two
things
where
I
hope
that
my
family's
that
my
loved
one
didn't
die
in
vain
and
I
don't
want
them
to
be
forgotten.
P
Those
two
things
hung
everywhere
that
I
went,
but
I
knew
that
as
long
as
the
american
flag
flew
on
free
soil,
that
no
sacrifice
would
ever
be
in
vain,
no
matter
whether
something
was
politically
motivated
or
or
not,
no
sacrifice
would
ever
be
in
vain.
As
long
as
we
we
lived
under
the
the
american
flag,
but
the
forgotten
part
was
something
that
was
a
little
bit
more
difficult
for
me
to
to
understand,
because
I
wasn't
able
to
embrace
that
myself.
P
You
know
when
a
soldier
dies
there's
an
immediate
rallying
around
of
the
family
right,
it
could
happen
in
communities
and
and
it
comes
from
every
direction,
home
towns
rally
around
the
families,
families
start
receiving
gifts
of
of
letters
and
and
portraits
and
quilts
and
and
all
kinds
of
things
from
around
the
country.
People
want
to
do
something.
P
Everybody
wants
to
do
something,
even
if
they
don't
know
someone
particular,
but
three
months
later,
you
know
six
months
later,
five
years
later,
you
know
we,
as
americans
have
very
short
memories
and
most
of
the
families
and
friends
that
are
around
those
families.
The
co-workers,
they've
all
moved
on
and
they've
hoped
that
you've
moved
on,
because
it's
very
difficult
for
a
family
to
be
talking
about.
You
know
their
dead
loved
one.
P
You
know
too
much
longer
and
I
met
with
some
families
this
weekend
in
an
event
that
I
was
in,
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
kept
saying
to
me
was.
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
my
son
anymore,
because
every
time
I
talk
about
them,
it
brings
a
heaviness
to
the
conversation,
and
so
basically,
what
these
family
members
end
up
doing
is
silently
suffering
through
the
pain
of
of
remembering
dates.
P
It
could
be
birthdays,
it
could
be
anniversaries
special
moments,
you
know
a
song
whatever
it
might
be
to
trigger
that
that
reminder
of
them,
and
so
they
suffer
with
that
silently,
not
even
considering
that
the
general
population
even
still
cares.
P
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
something
that
would
affect
the
entire
country
actually
enable
everyone
to
be
able
to
still
remember
without
having
to
be
sad
and
somber
and
reminding
of
a
tragic
event,
but
in
some
small
way
give
generations
of
these
fallen
family
members
a
glimmer
that
their
sacrifice
would
still
be
remembered.
Somehow,
and
so
I
guess
my
conclusion
to
that
was
to
create
a
symbol
was
to
create
something
by
which
everyone
could
participate
right.
P
14
years
later,
we
have
26
state
adopted
legislations
that
determined
that
this
symbol
was
important
enough
to
make
official
in
their
state.
You
know
we
have
flags
for
everything
in
our
nation.
Flags
define
everything
our
u.s
flag
defines
our
unity
and
our
our
comprehension
as
a
country
and
who
we
are
our
freedoms
and
our
rights
right.
We
have
state
flags
that
define
our
borders.
We
have
branches
of
service
flags
colleges
have
a
flag.
We
have
flags
for
everything,
the
pow
mia
flag
for
that
group
that
was
missing
or
captured.
P
P
There
are
many
many
many
more
reasons
why
it's
important,
but
in
the
short
testimony
you
know
we
can
only
touch
the
surface,
but,
most
importantly
now
it
sends
a
perpetual,
consistent
message
that
never
existed
we're
obligated
to
never
forget
the
men
and
women
who
signed
that
blank
check,
giving
their
lives
but,
most
importantly,
the
family
who
raised
them
and
loved
them.
I
believe,
should
never
have
to
wonder
if
we
truly
are
a
grateful
nation.
E
B
A
second
by
representative
massey,
all
righty
representative,
is
there
any
other
testimony
or
so
or.
N
I
just
I'll
keep
it
brief
again.
I
am
charlotte
ball.
I
am
the
state
chapter
director
for
member
state
of
kentucky.
I
am
a
very
proud
veteran
of
the
united
states
air
force.
N
N
If
our
flag
also
stands
for
pride,
sacrifice,
opportunity,
hope,
strength
and
freedom
for
all
of
our
citizens.
I
served
alongside
some
of
the
finest
men
and
women
whose
mission
was
to
protect
the
flag,
this
country
and
all
that
it
represents
of
these
military
members.
There
are
those
that
pay
the
ultimate
price,
whether
it
was
on
a
battlefield
in
enemy
territory
or
some
cases
at
home,
succumbing
to
struggles
within
themselves,
better
known
as
ptsd
or
post-traumatic
stress
disorder.
N
N
B
Thank
you
ma'am
for
being
here.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee
members?
E
A
A
F
Explain
my
vote.
Please
I'm
a
resounding!
Yes,
I'm
the
primary
co-sponsor
on
this
bill.
I
was
one
of
those
members
that
brought
this
bill
in
the
past
and
was
very
frustrated
that
it
passed
our
chamber
the
first
time
I
brought
it
96-0
it
the
next
time.
It
was
something
like
89-0
and
I
would
encourage
all
of
my
colleagues
here
to
try
to
get
the
senate
to
get
behind
this.
We
think
we've
rubbed
out
some
of
the
opposition
when
I
say
rubbed
them
out.
F
I
don't
mean
that
what
I
mean
by
that
is
we
we,
we
heard
a
lot
of
commentary
about
it,
trumping
the
american
flag
and
no
way,
that's
why
you
heard
that
testimony
today.
In
no
way
does
this
trump,
the
american
flag,
it
just
gives
the
dignity
and
the
respect
of
the
families
that
desperately
need
it.
I've
been
a
friend
with
the
gunnery
sergeant
for
many
many
years,
but
back
when
he
was
a
baby.
F
Marine
and
he's
he's
had
many
sacrifices
and
lost
many
friends
and
colleagues,
and
I
just
think
that
we
owe
a
duty
to
our
children
that
we're
here
today
to
all
children
to
continue
to
remind
them
of
the
service
of
our
veterans,
because
I
do
think
it
gets
forgotten
when
we're
not
in
a
time
of
of
combat,
and
we
can't
forget
these
people
because
they
actually
provide
the
very
freedom
that
we
are
serving
under.
So
a
resounding
yes.
F
B
A
B
H
I
vote
yes
today
because
I
think
this
will
definitely
honor
our
fallen
soldiers
and
gold,
star
families
such
as
your
dad,
and
rightly
so,
but
I
would
also
like
to
mention
lance
corporal
jonathan
thornsberry,
who
was
a
young
soldier,
died
in
my
community
in
2006
during
the
war
in
iraq.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
today.
L
R
B
All
right
and
representative
fugit,
yes,
all
right.
We
have
any
others
that
we
missed,
or
so
I
am
going
to
leave
the
rolls
open
at
the
end,
because
we
had
a
few
have
to
step
out
in
other
meetings
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
pause
for
just
one
second,
and
I
hate
to
clear
such
a
room
of
such
great
faces
here,
but
I
know
y'all
have
a
tour
over
at
the
capitol
at
11
o'clock,
so
any
with
any,
with
the
family
military
kids
day.
B
If
y'all
want
I'm
just
gonna
pause
for
a
sec,
I
know
y'all
caleb.
Can
you
stand
out
there
and
kind
of
let
them
know
which
way
to
go
to
get
them
over
to
the
capitol?
I
believe
that
tour
starts
at
11,
so
that
gives
you
about
eight
to
ten
minutes
to
get
on
over
there.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
once
again
committee.
Let's
give
them
a
round
of
applause
for
all
the
military
family.
B
D
B
Up
representative
roberts,
if
you
all
would
thank
you,
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Thank
you
ellen
sorry
for
your
loss,
y'all.
M
B
All
righty:
well,
we
excited
we
got
another
good
piece
of
legislation,
hb
206
and
representative,
roger
roberts
and
representative
decker.
If
you
all
would
do
you
all
know
the
routine
introduce
yourself
just
for
the
record
and
your
guests
also.
A
A
Esteemed
members
house
bill
206
would
provide
those
with
a
history
of
sorry
would
prevent
those
with
a
history
of
sexual
assault
from
becoming
peace
officers
in
our
commonwealth.
This
bill
prohibits
anyone
who
has
been
convicted
of
various
serious
misdemeanor
offenses
under
krs
chapter
510,
including
assault
against
a
minor
from
being
certified
or
retained.
As
a
peace
officer
house
bill
206
is
an
extension.
B
E
Thank
you,
representatives,
robertson,
decker
for
this
good
bill.
I
have
talked
to
my
chief
of
police,
jeremy
thompson
and
mr
butler.
He
said
you
probably
wouldn't
recognize
his
name
in
part
and
admit
to
it,
but
he
is
also
very
much
in
support
of
this
bill,
but
I
do
have
a
question.
E
My
understanding
is
that
constables
are
considered
peace
officers
and
I'm
just
wondering
since
p
since
constables
are
elected,
does
this
eliminate
them
from
being
able
to
run
for
office
or
do
we?
What
am
I
misunderstanding
again,
I'm
very
much
for
this
bill.
I'm
just
wondering
if,
where
constables
would
fall
in
with
this.
A
B
R
K
E
A
B
If
not,
mr
secretary,
please
call
roll.
E
T
G
G
C
K
A
H
L
B
Hi,
well,
it
shall
pass.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
that
on
the
floor
and
represent
duplicity.
If
you
want
to
talk
with
these
two
and
and
make
sure
that
you're,
I
believe
the
question
has
been
answered,
but
let's
just
make
sure
just
in
case
there
because
has
other
chances
to
fix
it
or
make
it
even
better.
If
so,
so
we
appreciate
you
all
being
here
I'll
break,
I
think
representative
dawson
just
came
in
and
blanton.
We
have.
B
I
think,
y'all
caught
this
bill,
didn't
you,
but
if
you
all
want
to
record
a
vote
on
2
or
3
26
the
honor
and
remember
flag.
T
Yes,
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
record
a
yes
vote
on
house
bill
326.
Please.
F
B
Up
as
of
right
now
we're
going
to
keep
funneling
members
in
and
out
busy
day
all
right
at
this
time,
representative,
tate,
ed,
I'm
leaving
you
for
last,
because
I'm
I
got
you
so
yeah,
so,
representative,
tate,
if
you
would,
this
is
kind
of
a
just
a
cleanup
bill
from
something
we
passed
two
years
ago.
I
think
wasn't
it
or
last
year,
two
years.
B
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
representative,
nancy,
tate
from
house
district
27.
M
And
then
troy
do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
M
H
All
right,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
house
bill
442,
safe
haven,
baby
box,
just
as
the
chairman
mentioned,
and
during
the
2021
session
we
passed
house
bill
155
with
zero,
no
votes.
These
boxes
can
have
been
installed
in
over
a
hundred
locations
in
seven
states.
A
B
B
All
righty
does
any
members
have
any
questions
or
anything
like
that.
All
right,
if
not
mr
secretary,
please
call
raw.
L
E
A
A
L
M
To
thank
you
all.
The
the
box
is
in
it's
ready
to
flip
the
switch
it's
ready
to
dedicate
the
people
been
trained.
It's
just
sitting
there,
so
this
allows
that
to
happen
in
mulberry
county.
So
thank
you
very
much.
B
All
right
well
we're
glad.
We
appreciate
y'all's
work
on
that
too.
So
all
right,
we
have
one
more
presenter
and
we're
going
to
move
to
hb
331.
B
F
You
chair
I'll
ed
massey
from
district
66
in
boone,
county
and
I'll
defer
to
my
guest
to
introduce
themselves.
C
Sir
good
morning,
chairman
and
committee,
my
name
is
whitney
allen,
commissioner,
for
kentucky
department
of
veteran
affairs.
I'm
just
going
to
be
quick
in
introducing
my
staff
to
my
immediate
right
and
who
will
be
doing
the
briefing
and
representing
the
agency
executive
director
al
duncan
over
my
veteran
services
to
my
immediate
left,
my
chief
of
staff,
dwayne
edwards,
and
then
my
deputy
commissioner
lynn,
noel
and
then
finally,
special
guest
general
les
beavers
to
my
right
over
here.
C
F
All
right
members,
this
actually
is
a
removal
of
one
word
from
the
whole.
B
F
B
Y'all
are
trying
to
beat
kim
banta's
meeting
that
lasted.
She
got
a
bill
passed
in
like
what
32
seconds
or
something
it
was
pretty
quick.
So
all
right
does
any
com.
Many
members
have
any
questions
for
this
group
and
then
we're
going
to
bring
up.
We
have
a
couple
speakers
that
do
want
to
speak,
I'm
not
sure
in
favor
or
against,
but
we'll
let
them
speak
in
just
a
sec.
There.
Any
questions
for
this
group.
C
R
B
S
They
will
not
be
allowed
for
future
grants.
Each
one
of
our
state
veterans
cemeteries,
have
approximately
99
acres.
They
will
be
open
for
the
next
99
years
and
over
the
past
since
2000,
since
our
very
first
cemetery
in
2004.
In
your
area
representative
thomas,
we
spent
38
million
dollars.
None
of
that
money
was
on
you
guys.
Everything
was
from
the
state
cemetery
grants
program
and
the
national
cemetery
administration
once
they
get
this
put
in.
It
is
going
to
hamper
us
from
getting
any
money
from
them.
S
Then
we
will
have
to
come
back
to
you
guys
to
ask
you.
I've
done
the
math.
Nobody
has
seen
these
more
than
I
have
I've
been
the
executive
director
for
the
past
two
years.
I've
been
in
the
state
cemeteries
for
the
past
15
years,
it's
upwards
of
10
to
20
millions
that
we
will
be
asking
for
over
the
next
two
to
10
years
to
expand
our
cemeteries
they're,
going
to
give
us
the
money.
Let's
let
them
give
us
the
money.
The
word
kentucky
means
nothing
other
than
what
it
has
in
the
writing.
S
Nobody
is
going
to
flood
our
gates
and
come
in
from
any
other
state.
It
just
doesn't
happen.
We
have
17
000
people
buried
in
our
cemeteries.
We
have
a
list
of
over
20
000
people
that
want
to
be
interned
in
our
state
veterans,
cemeteries
and
anywhere
in
there.
Since
the
year
2000
that
we
have
started
creating
this
list,
there
was
25
names
that
would
not
have
been
eligible
for
internment
over
20
years
across
five
state
veterans
cemeteries.
So
the
premise
is
that
it's
not
going
to
happen
just
isn't
there.
S
I
work
with
my
directors
every
day
and
we
see
these
issues
and
that
concern
I
understand,
but
it's
just
not
there.
The
national
cemetery
is
going
to
do
this
they're
in
the
process
of
doing
this.
They
have
reached
out
to
myself
general
beavers,
that
was
on
the
committee,
and
they
have.
Let
us
know
that
this
is
going
to
happen,
whether
it
is
this
year
or
next
year
or
the
following
year.
S
C
Please
let
me
add,
and
thanks
that's
why
I
like
hanging
around
smart
people,
it's
three
things
that
that
it
boils
down
to
maintaining
or
maintaining
under
federal
regulations
and
directives,
and
that's
what
guides
standards
and
al
is
one
of
the
best
in
the
nation.
Our
cemeteries
are
one
of
the
best
to
maintain
the
legacy
of
our
veterans.
C
You
know
all
of
the
land
is
not
developed
yet
so
we
will
have
to
go
back
and
get
money
once
again,
I
think
yeah
you
did
the
match
seven
years,
30
million
dollars,
so
that
is
a
lot
of
money
actually
he'll
be
putting
in
grants
to
realign
existing
headstones.
That's
why
it
looks
so
pretty
that's
two
to
three
million
dollars
and
then
the
last
piece
on
that
piece
is
the
fiscal
health
of
the
commonwealth.
C
If
they
go
ahead
and
and
once
this
is
instituted,
we
lose
federal
dollars,
we
as
a
state
can
we'll
have
to
fit
the
bill.
Thank
you.
F
B
All
right
is
there
any
other
questions
for
this,
these
three
or
so,
if
not
general,
beavers
and
larry
arnett.
If
you
all
want
to
did
y'all.
T
T
T
O
I'm
brigadier
general
retired
les
beavers
your
first
commissioner
of
veterans
affairs
in
1998,
I
served
for
10
years
appointed
by
governor
patton,
served
under
governor
fletcher
and
then
governor
beshear
for
a
year
following
my
tenure
of
10
years
here
I
went
on
to
be
the
executive
director
for
all
the
state
departments
of
veterans
affairs,
and
I
was
also
appointed
to
the
advisory
committee
for
the
national
cemeteries
and
served
as
the
chairman
for
the
last
two
years
of
that
13-year
period
for
that
I'm
now
currently
serving
as
the
legislative
director
for
all
state
departments
of
veterans
affairs.
O
I
deal
mostly
with
national
legislation
when
we
built
the
cemeteries
and
when
I
first
put
in
the
plan
to
have
five
state
veterans
cemeteries
and
our
intent
was
not
to
deny
any
honorably
discharged
veteran
to
be
buried
in
our
cemeteries
and
over
my
10
years.
We
operated
under
that
premise
and
it
did
not
have
an
effect
on
our
bottom
line
of
operational
cost.
O
O
The
state
veterans
cemeteries
were
put
in
to
act
as
an
adjunct
or
to
supplement
the
national
cemeteries
from
a
numbers
standpoint.
We
did
not
have
the
population
to
have
another
national
cemetery
in
the
state.
A
lot
of
states
are
in
that
position,
so
state
veterans,
cemetery
grant
program
came
into
being.
Initially,
it
was
a
50-50
grant
relationship,
and
then
it
went
to
100
percent
realized
that
the
federal
government
paid
100
percent
on
the
construction
and
the
initial
equipping
of
our
state
veterans
cemeteries.
O
The
states
inherit
the
operational
cost
and
we
do
receive
a
plot
allowance
from
the
federal
government
of
over
800
for
the
burial
of
every
state
of
every
veteran
that
does
not
apply
to
family
members,
and
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
addressing
at
the
national
level
is
how
that
the
federal
government,
since
they
allow
the
family
member
to
also
be
buried,
that
there
should
be
some
form
of
money
from
the
federal
government
to
the
states
to
do
that.
Function.
O
This
issue
has
been
brought
up
at
the
national
level.
It's
currently
being
discussed.
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
what
al
said.
The
38
cfr
has
not
been
amended
yet.
However,
when
there
is
a
memorandum
of
agreement
between
the
federal
government
and
the
state
for
an
expansion
grant
or
columbarium
or
o
m
cost
any
grant
in
that
moa,
they
are
now
requiring
that
there
will
be
no
residency
requirement,
so
it
will
affect
us
and
it
affects
it
will
affect
us
now.
So
I
I
recommend
your
support
of
this
legislation.
O
I
honestly
think
it's
the
best
thing
to
do,
but,
more
importantly,
we
go
back
to.
Why
do
we
have
them
and
that's
the
honor
service
to
our
great
country,
regardless
of
where
they're
from
and
when
they
served,
and
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
so.
I
recommend
you
support
the
legislation.
Thank
you,
sir.
T
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
served
with
general
beavers
for
for
several
years
and
I
respect
the
work
that
he
did
in
regards
to
the
building
and
constructing
and
operation
of
our
state
veterans,
cemeteries.
T
The
fact
is
that
the
state
veterans
cemeteries
is
a
is
a
boon
to
the
u.s
department
of
veterans
affairs.
It
keeps
them
from
having
to
build
other
federal
national
cemeteries
and
pay
100
of
the
operation
of
those
cemeteries.
S
T
T
T
T
That's
the
dollars
out
of
your
general
fund!
Now,
why
would
that
be
a
a
concern?
Why
would
we,
as
as
kentucky
veterans,
be
concerned
about
expanding
the
availability
of
plots
in
the
kentucky
veterans
cemeteries?
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
Odds.
Are
it's
going
to
pass
guardsmen
and
reservists
deserve
the
opportunity
to
be
buried
in
a
dignified
location
like
a
state
veterans
cemetery.
We
happen
to
agree
with
that,
but
if
you
add
that
number
of
reservists
and
guardsmen
into
an
already
potentially
crowded
state
veterans,
cemetery
with
limited
staffing
and
limited
space
available,
we
just
exacerbate
the
issue.
T
In
summary,
mr
chairman,
there's
no
urgency.
We
feel
like
that
it
has
the
potential
of
reducing
the
quality
of
our
burials
at
our
state
veterans,
cemeteries.
T
B
I've
been
hitting
my
own
mic
here,
we
do
have
some
questions
and
maybe
some
of
the
the
testimony
can
get
answered
that
way.
Representative
duplicity,.
E
E
I
want
I
want
to
ask
a
question
specifically
to
you,
but-
and
I
want
to
make
a
comment
as
well:
I've
seen
I'm
from
hardin
county
and
I
have
seen
very
slow
processing
times
to
go
into
that
into
the
vet.
Radcliffe
veterans,
cemetery
from
a
friend
of
mine's
son.
E
If
we
have
labor
shortages,
that's
keeping
that
happening
regardless
of
what
we're
talking
about
today
right
we
we
should
have.
We
should
be
hearing
that
and
we
should
have
a
bill
in
front
of
us
to
fix.
That
is
that
is
the
is
the
is
the
issue,
but
my
question
to
you
is:
if
we
know
that
the
military
is
very
transient
again,
I
live
near
fort
knox.
Sure
so
so
I
become
friends
with
folks.
Then,
three
years
later
they
move
on
it's
very
tough.
E
E
E
T
The
issue
at
hand
is:
do
you
reduce
the
quality
of
the
burials
for
kentucky
veterans
for
those
very
limited
circumstances?
Representative?
And
yes,
there
are
individual
circumstances
where
we
would
certainly
want
and
encourage
that
individual
to
be
buried
in
the
state
of
kentucky.
T
I
think
that
is
a
very
small
group
of
individuals
and
probably
would
not
be
of
a
major
impact.
T
What
will
be
of
concern
is
that
if
you
do
not
adequately
staff
the
cemeteries,
then
you're
going
to
wind
up
overloading
that
the
work
burden
of
those
individual,
staffers
and
you're
going
to
reduce
the
quality
of
those
burial
opportunities,
so
that.
E
E
I
I
I
understand
your
point
and
what
we
as
a
committee
are
hearing
is.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
doing
what's
right
for
gold,
star
families,
for
families
of
veterans
who
have
served
and
died
natural
causes
as
well,
and
if
we
have
inherent
problems
in
our
system,
those
need
to
be
fixed
not
at
the
expense
of
those
who
want
to
put
their
family
member
in
our
state.
E
T
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
the
commissioner
and
his
staff
over
there.
I
would
think
that
they
know
what
they're
capable
of
handling
at
our
cemeteries
and
what
they're
not
nobody
wants
to
see
our
cemeteries
overburdened.
We
want
to
take
care
of
our
veterans.
J
I
think
you
will
find
everyone
on
this
committee
is
committed
to
taking
care
of
our
veterans
because
they
they
deserve
that,
and
I
hear
that
we've
had
25
over
the
last
20
years.
I've
been
through
this
in
private
life
when
people's
afraid
of
some
type
of
twist
and
change
that
we're
going
to
get
overrun
all
of
a
sudden
and
in
reality
that
never
never
happens,
then
it
was
brought
up
on
a
federal
level
about
guardsmen
and
so
forth.
J
You
know
I'd
be
curious
to
see
how
many
of
our
guardsmen
over
the
last
20
years
in
this
war
have
died
in
afghanistan
and
iraq
and
they're
just
as
deserving
to
be
there
as
anybody
they're
soldiers.
That's.
J
Soldiers
and-
and
they
deserve
to
be
there,
so
I
I
hear
your
concerns.
I
always
try
to
stick
with
my
veterans,
but
today
I
have
to
side
with
the
commissioner
and
his
staff
being
the
ones
that
are
running
the
day-to-day
operations
of
these
things,
these
cemeteries,
and
if
that
comes
to
fruition,
that
we
start
seeing
an
abundance
of
people
actually
trying
to
bring
from
other
states,
then
I
certainly
will
be
in
favor
of
putting
more
funding
into
our
veterans
affair
to
hire
the
staff
they
need
to
do
that.
J
I
think
we
can
accommodate
all
veterans
in
this
situation.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
All
right
representative
wesley
and
that
that
let's
try
to
make
that
the
only
one
left
here
go
ahead.
Representative
wesley,
thank.
L
You,
mr
chairman,
I
want
to
say
I
appreciate
everyone
being
here,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
just
got
done
praying
with
the
149th
charlie
company
over
the
national
guard
in
ravenna
esto
county
they're,
serving
for
us
in
our
country
in
kosovo,
and
I
have
served
with
me
that
went
through
the
same
training
I
went
through
in
the
marine
corps
as
reservists
they
serve
in
the
I-9
first
mp
company
in
lexington,
so
I
would
be
in
support
as
representative
blanton
for
all
of
our
reservists
national
guardsmen.
L
They
are
going
to
be
there
they're
serving
our
country
just
like
anybody
else,
and
I
believe
that
they
are
well
deserved
to
be
in
any
of
our
military's
cemetery.
Thank
you,
sir.
All
right.
D
T
J
E
A
R
D
A
I
appreciate
the
entire
discussion
and
you've
brought
forward
lots
of
things
that
many
of
us
had
not
thought
about.
So
I'm
a
yes
for
today
and
I
concur
with
what
representative
blanton
has
had
to
say,
but
I
do
want
to
check
in
with
my
veterans
organizations
back
in
my
district
and
get
their
input.
So
it's
a
yes
for
today,
but
I'm
actively
seeking
their
thoughts
and
input.
Thank
you.
B
H
The
same
as
my
colleagues,
you
have
caused
some
concern
that
I'd
like
to
look
into.
I
am
a
yes
for
today,
because
I
do
feel
like
we
need
to
invest
in
all
of
our
veterans
and
but
I'd
like
to
speak
with
some
of
my
local
veterans
and
see
how
they
feel
about
this
now.
But
I
am
a
yes
for
today.
Thank
you.
L
Explain
my
vote
go
ahead.
I
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
all
of
our
veterans
appreciate
bringing
this
legislation
to
us
I'll,
be
a
yes
for
today
and
I'm
going
to
stay
in
contact
with
representative
cook
on
this
as
a
fellow
marine.
Thank
you.
B
B
Yes,
all
right,
it
does
put
us
as
a
chair.
I
I
value
both
y'all's
opinions
and
we're
in
the
middle
of
this
one.
It
does
look
like
it
is
going
to
move
on.
So
please
you
know
if
y'all
both
want
to
mention
it
to
other
representatives
that
aren't
on
this
committee.
It
sounds
like
the
house
floor
is
the
next
visit
for
it.
So
we
appreciate
everyone
for
being
here,
commissioner,
always
great
to
see
you
and
and
being
here
also
so
thank.
T
B
B
okay
and
then
we
had
hb
442
pass
pass
on
that
one!
That's
the
baby
boxes
is
that
the
just
add
it
was
the
baby
boxes.
We've
already
passed
it
last
year.
This
was
just
allowing
baby
boxes
to
go
into
24-hour
services.
Oh.