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F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
mr
floor
leader
for
appearing,
and
we
have
spoke
briefly
on
this
topic
a
few
times
and
I'll.
Let
you,
if
there's
further
things
that
you're
going
to
do
an
explanation.
I
I
I'd
like
to
hear
that,
if
not
I
I
do
have
a
question.
I.
E
F
The
bill
references,
keras,
63
200,
and
I
wanted
to
get
an
understanding
for
how
long
it
would
would
have
been
or
how
long
it
currently
exists
from
the
time
that
there
is
a
vacancy
if
there
ever
is
a
vacancy
in
the
u.s
senate
before
an
election
would
happen
and
according
to
the
bill
and
according
to
63
200,
that
is
simply
at
the
next
election
of
the
house
members.
F
E
63
200,
I
believe,
addresses
the
mechanism
for
setting
up
a
special
election
and
that's
what's
referenced
in
this-
that
a
u.s
senate
vacancy
would
be
treated
the
same.
So
I'm
on
the
understanding
that
there
would
be
a
special
election
to
fill
until
the
next
regularly
scheduled
even
number
election.
Yes,.
F
E
As
I
understand
it
now,
the
governor
has
the
ability,
should
there
be
a
vacancy
in
the
u.s
senate
to
fill
that
seat
for
the
remainder
of
that
person's
term.
This
bill,
as
I
understand
it,
would
move
it
to
a
on
the
same
cycle
as
the
next
even
number
election,
because,
right
now
I
don't
think
the
section
where
the
gubernatorial
appointment
does
reference.
I
may
be
mistaken.
I
don't
have
the
bill
in
front
of
me,
mr
chairman,
I
apologize.
E
F
Section
two
of
house
bill:
400
says
the
following:
krs
section
is
repealed
and
it
references
63
200.,
so
63
200,
fortunately,
is
very
short,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
it.
If
that's
okay,
mr
chair.
A
F
We
are
going
to
repeal
this.
The
governor
shall
fill
vacancies
in
the
office
of
the
united
states
senate
in
the
office
of
united
states
senator
by
appointment
until
the
next
regular
election,
at
which
members
of
the
lower
branch
of
congress
are
elected
and
shall,
under
the
seal,
the
government
of
the
commonwealth,
certify
the
appointment
to
the
president
of
this
senate
of
the
united
states.
The
certificate
the
certificate
of
appointment
shall
be
counter-signed
by
the
secretary
of
state.
A
F
G
You,
mr
chairman,
I
want
to
thank
the
leader
for
bringing
this
bill.
What
this
bill
does
is
very
simple:
it
gives
the
power
to
the
people
to
determine,
in
all
circumstances,
who's
going
to
be
our
united
states,
senator
as
it
does
for
congress
as
it
exists
today,
if
there's
a
vacancy
that
occurs
at
any
time
during
the
six
years
of
the
senator's
rate
of
senator's
term
that
goes
to
the
governor
to
make
the
appointment.
G
What
this
does
is
very
simple,
and
it
says
at
no
time
will
we
have
one
individual
make
an
appointment
to
determine
who
represents
us
in
the
senate.
It
will
always
go
to
the
people,
so
if
there
is
someone
that
leaves
office
for
any
reason,
leader
rudy,
my
understanding
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
my
understanding
is
what
this
bill
will
do.
Is
it
will
say
that
the
governor
will
set
a
special
election
at
which
time
the
people
of
kentucky
will
determine
who
will
represent
them
in
the
united
states
senate?
That's
simple
right!
That's.
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is,
you
know
currently
as
far
as
the
other
elections
that
are
held
when
there's
a
vacancy,
the
governor,
if
we
we
are,
you
know,
if
it's
our
body
and
we're
in
session,
then
I
think
the
maybe
the
speaker
can
set
the
the
date
of
the
election.
Otherwise
it
falls
to
the
governor.
Will
there
be
any
difference
in
the
senate
election
as
far
as
the
the
amount
of
time
that
the
governor
has
to
call
the
special
election.
E
This
will
be
treated
exactly
the
same
as
a
congressional
vacancy.
Whatever
that
time
frame
is-
and
I
don't
think
the
members
of
the
general,
the
speaker
of
the
house
or
the
president
of
the
senate
have
any
say
in
a
in
a
special
election
this
these
are
all
I
like
to
say.
This
is
we're
treating
all
congressional
vacancies
the
same
right.
A
B
B
B
C
G
F
Briefly,
explain
sure
I'm
going
to
pass
it
this
time
to
me,
it
seems
clear
that
this
bill
will
create
a
vacancy
until
there
is
a
special
election
in
the
u.s
senate.
If
there
is
a
vacancy
and
that
position
is
too
important,
I
believe
for
us
to
withhold
that
time
frame
that
we
would
not
have
a
sitting
senator.
So
I
pass
it
this
time.
A
I
I
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
just
going
to
talk
just
a
few
seconds,
but
in
order
to
be
respectful
of
the
secretary
of
state's
time,
because
he
has
a
call
at
six
o'clock,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
let
him
speak
so
most
of
the
pages
of
this
bill
relate
to
the
use
of
paper
ballots
in
the
state
and
require
update
voter
equipment.
I
J
I'll
be
I'll,
be
very
brief,
mr
chairman,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
this
measure
house,
bill
far25
originally
was
and
still
remains,
a
bill
to
transition
kentucky
toward
universal
paper,
ballots,
statewide,
an
issue
I
found
had
universal
agreement,
democrats
and
republicans
across
the
state.
I
found,
as
I
campaigned
as
I've
been
in
this
office.
Folks,
disagree
on
lots
of
things
in
the
elections,
but
everyone
wants
to
vote
on
a
piece
of
paper.
J
J
I
don't
subscribe
to
either
of
those
theories.
However,
I
do
believe
that
all
kentuckians
will
have
more
confidence
in
our
system
if
they're
capable
of
voting
on
a
paper
ballot.
What
this
bill
does
is
not
an
unfunded
mandate.
It
doesn't
require
counties
to
go
out
and
buy
new
equipment.
It
says
once
they
do
buy
new
equipment,
whether
that's,
tomorrow
or
20
years
from
now,
once
they
upgrade
their
equipment,
they
need
to
get
equipment,
that's
capable
of
producing
a
paper
ballot,
whether
that's
a
scantron
type
machine
that
receives
a
paper
ballot
or
that's
a
machine.
J
That's
ada,
compliant
that
prints
out
a
paper
about
for
the
voter
to
review
before
it's
received
by
the
machine
encountered
from
the
perspective
of
an
election
official.
I
like
this
for
lots
of
reasons.
One
of
them
is
even
apart
from
the
concern
about
fraud
or
abuse,
just
the
ability
to
actually
conduct
a
real
recount
is
really
important.
As
you
all
know,
we
had
a
really
close
race
in
your
body
a
couple
years
ago.
We
really
couldn't
go
back
and
look
and
count
the
votes,
because
so
many
run
machines.
You
never
can
really
recount
those.
J
So
you
just
hit
the
button
and
get
the
same
number
on
the
machine.
If
you've
got
paper
ballots,
you
can
actually
do
a
real
recount.
So
I
will
confess
this
language
is
not
something
that
I've
reviewed
closely.
However,
I
have
worked
very
closely
with
a
working
group
of
this
body.
That's
also
worked
with
the
state
board
of
elections
with
the
county
clerks
members
of
both
parties,
in
both
of
those
groups
to
try
to
make
sure
this
language
is
sufficient
and
also
doesn't
accidentally
create
a
problem.
J
A
Thank
you
mostly
to
adopt
the
committee
sub.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
Now
we
got
a
committee
sub
and
everybody
was
given
that
so
we
got
a
motion
to
bring
forth
the
committee
sub
before
us.
Do
I
hear
a
second
second?
So
the
committee
sub
is
adopted.
We.
B
A
Any
discussion
representative,
I
think
blanton
beaches
buddy,
represent
blanton.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
representative,
tate
secretary
adams,
just
for
clarification
purposes,
and
I
I
did
read
over
page
26
right
then,
but
the
only
concern
I've
heard
is
making
sure
that
we
are
explicitly
clear
that
they
are
allowed
to
use
their
current
machines
until
they
replace
them
that
when
they
replace
them,
then
they
have
to
go
to
the
new
type
of
machine
and
that
once
this
goes
into
effect,
it
doesn't
immediately
say:
okay,
everybody's
got
a
switch
now
and
it's
an
unfunded
mandate
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
concern
the
the
people
that
are
concerned
are
supportive
of
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
they
just
want
to
make
sure
we
either
fund
it.
D
If
it's
going
to
be
immediate,
so
it
can
be
done
immediately
or
make
sure
there's
proper
clarification
to
ensure
that
it's
not
until
they
actually
replace
the
machines
that
they're
required
to
do
that.
I
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
representative
for
bringing
thank
you
secretary
for
for
being
here
to
help
present
it.
I
very
much
like
the
idea
of
going
to
paper
ballots
also
and
having
that
support.
I
know
it
may
take
some
time
before
we
get
there,
but
it's
a
great
idea
and
the
the
advantage
of
representative
blanton
going
first,
I
had
a
chance
to
do
a
quick
comparison
of
the
the
committee
sub
to
the
original
bill.
Pretty
satisfied
that
it,
it
is
exactly
what
it's
very
different
or
I'm
sorry,
very.
F
Hardly
any
change
at
all
between
the
two
bills
and
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
representatives
who
are
working
on
a
more
omnibus
elections
bill,
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
in
there
and
I
look
and,
as
is
this
language,
so
if
we
don't
get
that
fully
passed
at
some
point
this
session,
which
I
certainly
hope
that
we
do
this
is
still
a
good
bill.
So
thank
you.
B
G
H
B
B
G
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
I'll
call
up
the
house
committee
sub
one
for
house
bill,
133.
A
Thank
you.
So
this
bill
is
a
started
out,
as
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
the
the
board
of
elections,
a
board
of
education
in
a
county,
puts
the
raises
the
tax
above
the
four
percent
mark
that
it
would
automatically
go
on
the
ballot,
so
the
people
could
have
buy-in
for
anything
above
the
four
percent.