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A
Building?
Okay,
thank
you.
Senator
westerfield.
Our
first
bill
today
is
gonna,
be
senate
bill
102,
senator
mills.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
any
guests,
you
may
have.
D
A
D
Great
senate
bill
102
is
actually
hits
in
a
couple.
It
hits
in
my
district
and
also
hits
down
in
senator
carroll's
district.
We
have
a
major
issue
with
asian
carp
that
have
made
their
way
into
the
lake
area
and
into
the
ohio
river
asian.
Carp
are
being
encouraged
to
be
harvested
out
of
these
bodies
of
waters,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
really
good
processors
in
our
area
that
are
doing
a
a
fine
job
at
processing
this
meat
and
sending
it
overseas
and
things
are
going
well.
D
D
So
what
we're
doing
on
this
bill
is
we're
trying
to
add
the
kentucky,
proud
label
and
senator
hornbach
will
have
an
amendment
a
floor
amendment
that
will
make
it
where
they
cannot
participate
in
the
grant
process
as
far
as
getting
money
from
the
state,
but
at
least
it
allowed
them
to
put
the
kentucky
proud
label
on
the
asian
carp,
paddle
fish
or
the
paddlefish
and
sturgeon
on
the
caviar,
and
this
is
just
really
a
marketing
technique
that
will
help
them
promote
and
and
the
the
approach
from
from
the
commissioner
is
in
favor
of
this
and
basically
he's
in
favor
of
anything.
D
We
can
do
to
increase,
pulling
out
asian
carp
out
of
the
waters
and
making
because
they
they
create.
If
you
haven't
ever
seen
them
jump
out
of
the
river
and
lakes,
they
create
major
problems
for
the
recreational
fishermen
and
we've
lost
fishing
tournaments
and
things
of
that
nature
because
of
asian
carp.
So
that's
just
a
good
summary
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
for
you.
A
I
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
and
have
a
second
senator
mills.
I
would
like
to
say
just
one
comment.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
and-
and
I
wanted
to
explain
what
my
floor
amendment
is
gonna
say
exactly
one
thing
that
you
brought
out
to
me
that
a
minor
change
will
make
it's
sturgeon
and
not
swordfish
has
been
has
been
said
earlier,
so
we'll
be,
the
wording
will
be
changed
to
sturgeon,
and
I
appreciate
you,
your
research
and
finding
that
out.
A
A
What
that's
saying
is
that
they
can't
use
ag
development
money.
That's
a
rural
development
fund,
it's
what
it
is,
we're
allowing
them
to
use
the
the
logo
of
kentucky
pry
out,
it's
very
good
for
our
tourism
and
other
things
too,
and
and
we
do
always
promote
economic
development.
A
I
think
they
help
them,
but
we
want
to
be
very
careful
that
the
monies
that
are
there
are
used
for
animals
that
are
raised
on
farms
and
not
wild
game,
and
we
don't
want
this
going
out
to
serve
it
or
something
else
and
being
used
for
something
else.
So,
thanks
for
allowing
me
to
to
put
this
friendly
floor
amendment
on
it
gets
on
the
floor.
D
C
A
A
D
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Senator
bills,
senator
southworth.
I
think
you
have
senate
bill
82.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
bring
any
guests
that
you
may
have,
I
will
not.
I
will
let
everybody
know
that
there
are
considerable
people
that
have
asked
about
speaking
on
this,
and
so
I
will
be
limiting
that
kind
of
time
that
each
can
speak.
A
We've
got
some
in
favor
and
some
that
are
opposed
so
I'll,
be
limiting
your
time
to
about
20
minutes,
10
minutes
for
each
side.
E
Seed
adrienne
salford,
representing.
E
Well,
it
is
on,
but
it
just
sounds
like
it's
not
on.
So
let's
go
a
little
better
here,
we'll
lean
in
I'm
adrian
southworth,
representing
the
seventh
senate
district,
and
this
is
one
of
my
guests
in
person
today,
edwin
nyber
he's
from
the
sportsman's.
E
Yes
thank
you
for
the
official
words
and
we
also
have
on
zoom
joining
us
today.
Doug
morgan
doug
will
wave
at
us
here
I'll.
Let
him
speak
as
soon
as
edwin
finishes
and
we
will
proceed
if
you're
ready.
Mr
chairman,.
E
E
E
E
Now
the
lion's
share
of
our
members
belong
to
the
kentucky,
sportsman's
caucus
and,
of
course,
the
sportsman's
president
who's.
My
constituent
is
here
to
speak
on
the
bill,
but
a
lot
of
the
groups.
In
fact,
all
the
dog
groups,
with
the
exception
of
the
peta
affiliates,
are
all
supporting
this
committee
sub.
We
have
the
houndsmen's
group,
we
have
the
american
kennel
club,
best
friends,
animal
society,
american
dog
breeders,
association
that
includes
everyone
with
pet
trainers.
I
have
everything
from
that
to
the
cdc
the
humane
society.
E
E
E
When
local
government
wanted
to
clamp
down
on
emissions
from
our
f-150s,
there
was
outcry
why
small
government
is
not
the
same
thing
as
local
government?
What
struck
me
about
this
issue?
Most
was
the
court
case
in
iowa,
where
a
retired
police
officer
who
was
paralyzed
had
a
service
dog
who
was
a
pit
bull?
E
The
fourth
amendment
protects
us
from
unreasonable
search
and
seizure
does
taking
a
dog
on
a
walk
or
to
a
grooming
appointment
constitute
plain
view
for
the
purposes
of
violating
the
privacy
of
someone's
home
or
property.
Are
the
city
police
allowed
to
snoop
into
the
yard
when
a
dog
is
let
out
to
play?
E
E
E
E
After
this
bill
passes,
local
governments
will
still
have
every
tool
to
lawfully
address
the
local
wishes
of
those
who
would
prefer
dogs
be
kenneled,
fenced,
leashed,
vaccinated,
hair,
trimmed
not
walked
on
public
sidewalks
or
whatever,
or
their
ordinances
on
nuisance
and
public
safety
that
they
would
desire.
What
they
will
not
have
is
liability,
creating
rights
violating
subjective
dog
segregation
that
rips
service
dogs
from
owners
to
create
lawsuits
like
gun
rights.
Property
rights
is
not
a
local
question.
It
can
be
cited
today.
A
F
Sir,
and
I
will
be
brief,
my
name
is
edwin
ivern,
I'm
the
president
of
the
league
of
kentucky
sports.
Can
you
hear
me
here
it's
on
sorry?
Yes,
my
name
is
edwin
neibert,
I'm
the
president
of
the
league
of
kentucky
sportsmen.
I
represent
23
000
members
across
the
state.
In
our
nine
federations,
our
board
of
directors
did
meet
on
this
bill
and
unanimously
voted
in
support
of
it.
F
We
feel
it's
a
property
rights
issue
and,
as
I
was
researching
the
bill
after
talking
with
senator
southworth,
it
amazed
me
to
find
out
that
the
number
one
dog
bite
in
the
united
states
of
america
actually
belongs
to
a
sporting
breed.
The
cocker
spaniel,
if
we
allow
breeds
to
be
segregated
against
discriminated
against
just
based
solely
on
their
viciousness
conquerors
manual
lovers
are
going
to
be
really
mad
at
us.
E
A
A
Real
quick,
mr
morgan,
just
a
minute.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
here
today
and
I
want
to
thank
senator
southworth
for
presenting
this
bill
as
amended.
It
is
a
good
deal.
C
I
am
a
akc
ukc,
pkc,
acha,
credential,
best
show,
judge
master
of
hounds
and
a
hunt
director.
I've
been
active
in
dog
organizations,
my
whole
life
over
40
years,
and
if
it's
one
thing,
that's
apparent
to
me
after
being
around
dogs
that
long
there
is
no
bad
dog
breeze,
but
we
do
unfortunately
have
a
few
bad
dog
owners
and
most
of
the
time
when
there's
a
problem,
it
goes
back
to
the
owner.
Not
the
breed
of
the
dog.
C
Kentuckians
love
their
dogs.
We
rank
third
in
the
united
states,
a
percentage-wise
of
dog
ownership,
there's
over
two
million
dog
owners
in
kentucky,
and
they
love
their
dogs
and
there's
300
breeds
recognized
in
the
united
states
and
I'm
sure
that
all
300
are
here
somewhere
and
to
single
out
one
breed
for
a
city
or
a
township
to
band
simply
serves
no
purpose
and
does
nothing
but
hurt
the
dogs
and
the
owners,
and
I
support
this
bill.
A
I
hope
you've
warmed
back
up
good
and
now
senator
salworth.
We've
got
some
folks
that
want
to
speak
in
opposition
jd
cheney.
If
you
want
to
come
to
the
desk-
and
I
think
they're,
we've
also
got.
G
Introduce
yourself
for
the
record:
yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
I'm
jd
cheney
with
the
kentucky
league
of
cities.
I
appreciate
it.
Mr
chairman,
you
letting
me
come.
I
think
this
is
my
second
time
in
all
these
years
before
the
senate
ag
committee-
and
I
think
the
last
time
was
about
a
bill
just
about
like
this-
that
the
chairman
was
was
carrying
as
well
about
four
or
five
years
ago.
I
don't
know
if
the
will.
G
The
general
assembly
has
changed
regarding
regarding
legislation
like
this,
but
I
can
tell
you
affirmatively
that
the
will
of
of
my
membership,
which
are
the
city
officials
across
the
state,
have
not,
if
you'll
recall,
senator,
I
I
tried
to
do
what
we
usually
do,
which
is
to
seek
middle
ground
on
legislation,
and
I
got
spanked
by
my
membership
for
for
trying
to
trying
to
abdicate
this.
I
had
no
idea
four
or
five
years
ago
about
the
number
of
cities
in
in
county
governments
as
well
that
have
ordinances
that
deal
with
this.
G
These
local
legislative
bodies
have
had
intensive
legislative
debates
in
their
communities.
Mayor
eric
hoss
from
from
fort
thomas
was
supposed
to
be
here
today.
He
sends
his
regrets
that
he
could.
He
could
not
make
it
to
talk
about
about
what
they
went
through
in
fort
thomas
to
get
that
legislation
on
the
books.
This
would
upend
those
local
deliberative
decisions
by
those
local
legislative
bodies.
It's
not
a
shock
for
us
to
be
consistent.
With
regard
to
to
the
principle
of
home
rule,
I
had
a
delightful
conversation
with
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
G
We
we
deal
with
cities.
The
league
just
doesn't
do
legislative
work,
we
help
them
from
a
legal
perspective
as
well.
We
have
model
ordinances
that
deal
with
vicious
dogs.
We
provide
counsel
to
city,
attorneys
and
and
others
related
to
how
they
may
model
their
ordinances.
When
we
get
asked
on
those
issues-
and
we
have
been
of
late
counseling
our
cities-
that
they
probably
need
to
take
into
consideration,
the
fact
that
we
have
a
decision
out
of
the
northern
district
of
iowa
a
federal
district
court,
it
did
not
go
beyond
that.
G
That
made
a
decision
and
provided
some
pretty
solid
legal
analysis
about
the
application
of
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
as
as
related
to
to
title
two
of
that
in
terms
of
making
reasonable
accommodations
for
individuals
for
services
for
service
animals.
It's
easier
if
those
city
ordinances
probably
acknowledge,
acknowledge
that
balancing
test,
if
they
are
going
to
be
specific
to
a
breed
related
to
that,
but
but
make
no
mistake:
there's
not
not
any
court
that
has
held
that
there's
a
constitutional
right
here.
G
That's
that's
been
violated
by
virtue
of
these
these
ordinances
that
are
in
place
across
many
communities,
the
the
I
guess
we
got
28
other
states
that
would
allow
local
governments
to
to
proceed
in
this
fashion,
and
so
our
membership
would
ask
that
we
keep
this
at
the
local
level.
We
allow
local
legislative
bodies
to
make
these
determinations
and
make
these
changes
via
ordinance
without
the
state
coming
in
preempting.
It's
a
pretty
it's
a
pretty
simple
argument.
We
can
talk
about
that
that
accommodation
that
can
be
done
under
the
ordinance.
That's
applicable
federal
law.
G
If
you
have
a
service
animal,
the
application
of
those
staff,
those
ordinances
would
would
probably
need
to
yield
to
make
that
a
reasonable
accommodation
to
help
individuals
with
that
need
those
animals
in
order
to
perform
essential
life
functions
under
the
ada.
So
that's
a
federal
law
that
that
already
applies,
and
it
will
apply,
of
course,
that's
a
northern
district
of
iowa
district
court
decision.
We
don't
have
any
appellate
decision
on
that,
but
it's
a
well-reasoned,
I'll
acknowledge
it's
a
well-reasoned
opinion
that
cities
ought
to
take
into
account
with
the
application
of
their
ordinance.
A
If
not
senator
southworth,
do
you
want
to
come
forward
and
rebuke
anything
he
had
to
say
or
just
in
one
minute.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
your
support
in
this
issue
over
the
last
several
years.
I
know
this
used
to
be
your
bill
and
I'm
glad
to
carry
it
this
year
and
thank
you
all
for
making
your
considerations.
I
will
just
point
out
once
again:
we
are
the
state
legislature.
E
We
don't
represent
only
our
local
governments.
We
also
represent
all
of
our
people
and
to
me
this
is
a
more
important
on
the
broader
scope
of
things
watching
out
for
our
people
and
what's
best
for
them,
and
it
doesn't
always
necessarily
align
with
local
government.
I
understand
those
who
have
major
concerns
about
that,
but
I've
talked
to,
of
course,
a
lot
of
my
local
officials
matches
so
forth.
I
have
the
special
privilege
of
having
many
of
them
from
the
associations
and
so
forth.
E
Staff-Wise
are
in
my
district
and
my
constituents
because
a
lot
of
their
home
bases
are
frankfurt
and
surrounding
areas,
but
I've
enjoyed
those
phone
conversations.
I
understand
their
position,
they
understand
mine.
I
think
we
could
move
forward
on
this.
They
have
all
of
the
options,
nuisance,
ordinances
and
so
forth,
and
I
won't
get
into
the
details
of
that,
because
I've
seen
plenty
of
other
cases
that
are
in
kentucky
about
nuisance,
ordinances
and
all
those
things
breeds
just
don't
need
to
be
part
of
it.
H
Can
I
explain
my
vote?
Yes,
please.
I
appreciate
senator
southworth,
bringing
it
forward
my
little
girl.
Ten
is
a
dog
lover.
She
she
has
three
in
the
house
so
and
she
says
all
dog
felt.
Like
my
good
friend,
doug
morgan
there.
She
says
all
dogs
are
good.
This
bad
people
is
what
she
tells
me,
but
I
understand
that
we
we
always
want
local
control
until
we
don't
want
local
control.
That's
that
seems
like
how
it's
how
government
works
anymore.
H
We
always
are
asking
for
it
until
we
don't
want
it,
and
then
we
see
that
it's
not
the
need.
So
I
appreciate
the
bill.
I'm
going
to
vote
no
today,
because
I've
had
so
many
of
my
constituents
that
represents
local
governments,
call
and
say
hey
jared.
We
do.
We
do
not
want
this.
We
want
to
be
able
to
control
our
decision
at
the
local
level.
From
my
judge,
executive
who's
been
a
friend
for
years
to
my
mayor
to
to
the
cap
to
the
city
attorneys.
H
I
understand
the
need
for
the
bill.
I
understand
their
reasoning
for
it.
I
understand
why
we've
brought
it
forward
and
the
chairman's
done
this
before
it's
kind
of
funny-
that
a
bill
like
this
kind
of
gets
controversial.
At
times.
We
wouldn't
really
expect
a
bill
about
dogs
as
senator
southworth,
and
I
have
talked
before
to
be
so
controversial
and
such
a
hot
topic.
But
it
is
people
love
animals.
H
I've
got
a
bunch
of
rental
property
and
if
I
didn't
allow
pets,
I
have
to
set
a
limit
on
what
size
of
pets
they
could
be
or
they'd
be
300
pound
dogs
in
my
apartments.
But
if
I
didn't
allow
pets,
then
half
of
my
units
would
be
empty
because
it's
amazing
of
how
many
people
want
to
make
sure
they
have
their
pet
in
their
in
their
in
their
apartment.
But
I
want
it
to
be
able
to
continue
to
be
local
control.
H
I
think
that's
an
important
issue
and
I
think
this
issue
is
going
to
come
up
more
and
I
know
that
you've
got
a
passion
for
it
and
I
think
you'll
be
able
to
work
with
the
groups
from
both
sides
to
make
sure
if
we
do
the
bill
in
the
future
that
we
can
get
everybody
on
board.
So
I
appreciate
your
work
on
it,
but
I'm
going
to
vote
no.
H
C
I
I'm
voting
no
and
senator
southworth
I'll
just
want
to
explain
to
you
my
reasoning.
When
I
first
came
into
the
senate,
senator
hornbach
tried
to
talk
me
into
carrying
a
dog
bill
that
year
and
that's
the
best
decision
I
ever
made
was
not
to
carry
that
bill.
I
This
is
this
is
one
of
those
bills.
That's
on
the
line,
as
senator
carpenter
says
we're
all
for
local
control
until
we're
not.
I
Some
of
the
questions
you
raised
if
we
do
get
to
that
level,
if
we
see
that
local
governments
are
clamping
down
on
service
animals
and
not
allowing
those
things
as
central
shackle,
would
say,
we'll
be
back
here
in
nine
months
or
eight
months
whatever.
So
I'm
voting
no
today,
but
keeping
my
open
for
those
problems
as
they
arise
and
we
can
address.
I
think
we
can
address
those
if
they
come
forward.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
chairman.
My
my
explanation
is
very
similar
to
the
ones
that
have
been
expressed
by
senator
carpenter
and
senator
west
and
based
on
the
concerns
have
been
raised.
C
Almost
every
local
official
that
I
represent
in
my
district
has
reached
out
on
the
bill
and
expressed
their
opposition
to
it
and
has
asked
me
to
vote
no
for
it,
and
there
are
times
when
I
think
local
control
needs
to
be
protected.
I
think
this
is
one
of
them.
C
Aware
of
at
least
one
example
respectfully,
where
I'm
not
as
crazy
about
local
control,
but
on
this
one
I
believe
it's
important,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
local
government
still
have
it.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
going
to
explain
my
eye
vote
and
I
carried
the
bill,
as
senator
southworth
said
before,
and
you
know,
I've
worked
with
jd
cheney,
a
whole
lot
on
local
control
bills
and
those
type
of
bills,
and
I
believe
in
local
control,
but
it's
like
everybody
else
has
said.
I
mean
we
believe
in
it
on
some
things,
other
things
we
don't
think
we
need
it.
I
think
senator
carpenter
said
it
well
and
in
my
belief
on
this
particular
piece
of
legislation,
is
it's
not
about
the
dog
it's
about
the
owner.
A
You
know
more
than
anything
else.
I
think
that's
what
it
is
and-
and
we
look
at
the
face
of
a
dog
and
we
discriminate
against
them
because
of
the
way
they
look,
the
breed
that
they
are
and
don't
take
in
consideration
that
it
might
have
do
with
part
of
the
training
and
upbringing
and
everything
that
they
had
and
that's
why?
A
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
to
be
careful
when
we
talk
about
low
control,
because
if
you
look
all
over
this
nation,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
I
think
a
lot
of
these
members
in
here
don't
agree
with
on
local
control,
and
so
you
know
it's
a
balance.
We
have
to
keep
all
the
time
and
I'm
gonna
vote.
A
A
The
bill
fails
senator
southworth.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward,
but
it
will
not
move
forward
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.