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A
C
A
President,
thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
members
with
any
introductions
they'd
like
to
make
of
any
guests
that
are
in
the
audience
scene?
None!
I
do
ask
anyone
in
the
audience
or
also
our
members.
If
you
have
a
cell
phone,
if
you
would
just
please
turn
that
to
silence
or
vibrate.
We
greatly
appreciate
that
we
have
two
issues
on
the
agenda
today,
the
first
I'm
going
to
go.
Maybe
out
of
order,
I'm
going
to
let
the
the
legislative
piece
go
first
on
our
orders
for
this
morning,
so
senator
wilson.
A
D
D
The
department
of
education
and
all
of
the
k
groups
and
this
bill
actually
passed
both
chambers
unanimously,
and
it
had
to
do
with
course,
k-12
and
looking
at
what
college
readiness
was
specifically
for
accountability
purposes
within
our
schools
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
did,
that
high
schools
were
being
held
accountable
for
increasing
their
percentage
of
graduates
having
at
least
one
of
these
a
college
admission
or
placement
exam
benchmark
score
or
a
college
credit
or
articulated
college
credit
or
hours
towards
approved,
apprenticeships
or
high
demand
industries,
recognize
certification,
credential
or
license
that
was
endorsed
and
prioritized
by
the
workforce,
investment
board
and
economic
development
organizations
from
each
kentucky
regional
sector
and
ultimately
approved
or
revised
by
k-web,
in
conjunction
with
kde
as
school
accountability
priorities.
D
So
what
senate
bill
59
does
is
it
goes
back
as
we
have
to
do
many
times
when
we
pass
legislation
is
once
it's
been.
In
effect,
you
have
to
do
some
tweaks
to
it
to
clarify
this
is
what
we
really
meant
guys,
and
so
that's
what
senate
bill?
59
does
it'll
clarify
reset
our
mission
to
increase
the
percentage
of
our
high
school
graduates
with
authentic
and
high
demand
post-secondary
credentials.
D
D
D
This
is
clarified
as
a
required
number
of
hours
or
benchmark
performance
within
a
an
apprenticeship,
cooperative
or
internship
that
is
aligned
with
a
credential
or
associate
degree
and
approved
by
kbe
after
receiving
input
from
the
lsac
as
done
in
past
years.
It
reduces
the
required
administration
of
the
act
only
to
the
junior
year,
rather
than
both
the
sophomore
and
junior
years.
We
had
put
that
in
because
we
thought
that
taking
it
year
prior
and
then
a
year
later
would
be
a
good
comparison
as
to
where
they
were
at
and
how
they
had
progressed.
D
What
they
are
currently
doing
now
is
in
their
junior
year
paying
for
the
a.c.t
for
all
of
our
students,
and
that's
really
what
the
bill
does
and
to
illustrate
the
need
for
that.
I'd
really
like
for
my
guest
mike
borchers
ludlow,
independent
superintendent,
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what's
going
on
in
their
district
mike.
Thank.
E
You
senator
wise,
thank
you
senator
wilson
for
doing
looking
back
at
this
bill.
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
today.
So
that's
okay,
I'll
go
ahead
and
kind
of
tell
our
story.
If
that's
okay,
senator
wilson.
D
E
We're
a
small
district
in
northern
kentucky
and
talking
to
two
of
these
areas
that
senator
wilson
just
talked
about
one
would
be
the
career
readiness
of
students
we
partnered
with
boone
county
several
years
ago
to
do
a
home
builders
trade
program
and
because
the
way
we've
designed
the
program-
it's
not
a
four
year
course,
which
doesn't
allow
a
lot
of
our
kids
when
they
finalize
the
program
to
be
considered
career
ready.
However,
with
the
with
the
adjustments
to
the
bill,
we
feel
that
this
would
allow
our
kids
to
be
considered
career
ready.
E
Let
me
just
explain
a
little
bit
about
how
our
program
works.
We
have
a
tradesmen
and
a
certified
teacher
from
boone
county
work
with
our
students
and
the
first
year
they
go
through
a
property
maintenance
where
they're
exposed
to
plumbing
electrical
hvac
and
carpentry.
E
So,
during
their
senior
year,
our
students
attend
school
half
a
day
and
then
they
co-op
the
other
half
to
have
their
senior
year.
However,
that
doesn't
allow
them
to
meet
the
minimum
hours
currently
in
the
bill.
So
we
have
kids
currently
that
are
leaving
our
program
that
we've
invested
in
this
program
and
they're
not
labeled
career
ready.
However,
let
me
tell
you
about
some
of
the
successes
of
some
of
the
students
who
have
left
the
program.
E
Over
the
last
several
years,
we've
worked
with
a
blacktop
company
in
our
region
to
do
these
type
of
internships
to
train
them,
the
way
that
they
would
like
to
be
trained
and
they're.
Leaving
as
a
senior
in
high
school,
making
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
yet
based
on
the
current
bill,
they're
still
not
considered
career
ready,
we're
currently
getting
ready
to
create
a
new
program
with
a
concrete
company
in
the
exact
same
way
once
again
trying
to
meet
our
region's
needs
for
some
students.
E
Here
in
ludlow,
I
have
a
young
man,
that's
unique
to
us
that
he
worked
a
co-op
through
an
hvac,
a
large
company
his
senior
year
upon
graduation.
The
day
he
turned
18.
The
company
made
him
a
service
technician.
They
gave
him
a
truck
and
now
he's
making
more
as
a
first-year
technician
as
our
teachers
do.
So
we
feel
that
we're
making
strides
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
companies
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
kids.
E
The
last
one
I'd
talk
about
too
senator
wise
or
wilson
is
that
the
home
builders
institute
is
also
looking
to
expand
this,
but
we
have
districts
that
sometimes
get
are
hesitant,
because
the
kids
would
leave
without
any
type
of
basically
credit
for
their
high
schools,
and
we
look
at
data
currently
this
year
I
have
10
10
of
our
senior
classes
working
through
this
program,
although
we're
a
small
school,
so
that
only
equates
to
about
eight
students.
E
Every
one
of
our
students
that
are
in
this
program
are
co-opting,
currently
being
paid
and
have
a
full-time
job,
lined
up
in
pipelines
that
are
of
high
need
being
a
small
district.
I've
worked
personally
with
both
large
companies
and
small
companies,
and
they
see
the
need
for
this
type
of
model,
and
we
feel
that
with
the
ability
of
changing
the
law
and
the
bill
in
this
with
kde,
this
will
allow
for
more
districts
throughout
the
state
to
model.
This
I'd
also
like
to
talk
just
real
quick
to
the
three
hours
of
the
dual
credit.
E
E
The
research
is
showing
that
students
who
complete
a
dual
credit
course
prior
to
college
have
a
much
greater
success
of
completing
college
and
going
through
their
first
year
of
success
in
college.
We've
created
dual
credit,
english
and
math
lab
to
where
this
is
the
exact
example.
What
we're
talking
about?
With
this?
We
have
students
who
still
struggle
to
meet
the
minimum
a.c.t
requirement
to
meet
several
of
the
early
dual
credit
enrollment
classes.
E
However,
ludlow
has
gone
in
with
with
the
help
of
gateway,
community
college
and
certified
an
english
and
math
teacher,
and
we're
able
to
allow
our
students
to
do
a
lab
class
which
does
the
remedial
class
and
completes
their
freshman
year,
whether
it's
english
or
math,
to
have
that
dual
credit.
So
I
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
on
this
committee
like
we're
asking
the
committee
to
water
down
anything
when
it
comes
to
dual
credit.
E
D
Thank
you
mike.
We
appreciate
it
if
you
want
to
hang
around,
I'm
sure
we'll
probably
have
some
questions,
but
in
essence,
what
this
bill
does
the
only
thing
that's
new
in
the
bill.
This
is
a
reiteration
clarification
of
what
the
original
intent
of
the
bill
was
as
far
as
post-secondary
readiness
as
I've
explained,
and
the
only
thing
that's
new
in
it.
It
takes
it
back
to
just
the
junior
year
for
the
a.c.t.
A
Senator
wilson,
thank
you
also,
thank
you
for
your
previous
work
on
senate
bill.
One.
This
just
adds
more
strength
to
a
great
deal
that
you
did
and
all
your
hard
work
on
that
and
and
for
this
bill
as
well
superintendent.
Borchers.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
up
there
in
northern
kentucky
and
your
district
and
for
providing
the
testimony
today.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
any
members
senator
gibbons.
F
Leader,
wilson,
thanks
for
the
presentation
thanks
for
the
legislation,
this
is
more
of
a
technical
question
than
than
it
is
a
substantive
question,
and
maybe
this
is
something
we
can
answer
offline
afterwards,
but
take
a
look
with
me
on
page
11
and
page
12..
First
of
all,
I'm
in
favor
of
what
you're
doing
here
and
again.
This
is
this
is
a
minutiae,
but
it
may
be
something
we
want
to
look
at
we're
changing
the
word
examinations
to
examination,
because
you're
eliminating
one
of
the
two
correct
that.
F
So,
on
page
11,
we
we
change
examinations
to
examination,
and
we
continue
that
further
down
on
page
11
and
then
on
page
12.
We
run
into
the
word
assessments,
that's
plural,
and
I'm
not
certain.
If
maybe
that
needs
to
stay
assessments,
because
assessments
is
broader
than
examination
but
offline.
We
can
talk
afterwards
about
why
we
wouldn't
use
the
word
examination
there
again
in
place
of
assessment.
A
A
A
Next
on
our
agenda
for
today,
presentation
from
the
association
of
independent
kentucky
colleges
and
universities,
our
friend
dr
o.j
alaika,
if
you
could
make
your
way
to
the
table
with
any
guest
that
you
also
may
have
with
you,
my
friend.
C
Well,
thank
you
senator.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
to
the
committee.
We
will
be
quick,
or
at
least
I
will
be.
I
want
to
make
sure
you
all
have
the
chance
to
hear
from
one
of
our
outstanding
presidents
again.
My
name
is
dr
oj
oleka.
I
have
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
the
president
of
the
association
of
independent
kentucky
colleges
and
universities.
C
I
have
my
colleague,
mason
dyer,
who
is
our
vice
president
of
public
affairs
and,
of
course,
our
special
guest
today
is
the
president
of
the
university
of
the
cumberlands
president
larry
cockrum,
before
we
turn
it
over
to
president
cochran.
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
update
of
where
things
are
with
our
independent
institutions.
C
They
are
doing
exceptionally
well,
especially
given
the
issues
with
the
pandemic
and
the
issues
with
finances.
But
first,
let
me
say
to
this
body.
Thank
you.
There
were
two
really
important
things
that
you
all
have
done.
First,
you
all
have
given
nearly
70
million
dollars
in
lottery,
funding
scholarships
to
12
000
students
that
go
to
our
institutions.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
In
the
past
budget,
you
could
have
chosen
to
move
that
money
elsewhere,
as
different
legislators
have
done
in
the
past.
You
all
did
not
make
that
decision.
C
You
chose
to
invest
in
our
students,
which
is
important.
The
kentucky
tuition
grant,
which
is
about
3
percent
of
post-secondary
funding
in
kentucky,
goes
to
our
students,
of
course,
about
20
percent
of
the
students
who
graduate
that's
incredibly
important.
You
also
gave
us
the
flexibility
to
deal
with
our
cova
challenges.
All
of
our
institutions
stayed
open
both
for
students
but
also
state
open,
in
the
sense
that
they
are
still
universities
and
colleges.
Not
all
independent
folks
had
that
same
positive
fate
over
the
past
two
years.
C
So
thank
you
for
that,
because
you
all
recognize
that
our
institutions
are
vital
and
they
are
important
over
8
000
employees
total
a
billion
dollars
in
economic
impact,
of
course,
across
small
communities
in
kentucky.
Our
institutions
are
exceptionally
important
for
our
communities
to
thrive
and
also
our
students
are
important.
57
000
students,
total
40
percent,
are
low
income
and
75
percent.
Roughly
our
kentuckians.
C
These
students
are
our
people,
and
our
people
need
to
thrive,
and
our
institutions
certainly
do
that
and
again
we
have
one
of
our
best
and
brightest
presidents.
Here,
one
of
the
things
that's
most
important
about
the
independent
colleges
and
universities
is
their
ability
to
innovate,
their
ability
to
turn
on
a
dime
and
change
and
make
sense
of
the
different
trends
within
higher
education.
G
G
You
know
I've
been
in
education
now
over
48
years
and
I
learned
a
long
time
ago
that
students
are
a
whole
lot
smarter
than
I
am
and
I'll
indulge
you
with
a
little
story
about
how
I
learned
it
and
in
my
previous
life
I
was
a
coach
and
I
was
a
basketball
coach
at
texas,
a
m
and
I
was
recruiting
a
player
from
west
texas
by
the
name
of
david
williams,
six,
seven
kid
nice
player
for
us.
He
lived
in
comstock
texas.
G
Actually
he
lived
on
a
sheep
ranch
about
15
miles
outside
of
comstock.
Anyhow
bottom
line
is
is
whenever
we
would
recruit
the
kid
we
would
go
in
we'd
take
the
family
out
to
dinner.
We
would
sign
the
papers,
take
a
picture,
so
we
could
get
a
press
release.
This
particular
time
when
I
went
in
I
couldn't
go
in
for
dinner
because
I
needed
to
get
back
to
college
station
for
practice.
G
So
I
went
in
for
lunch
and
david's
parents
couldn't
eat
lunch
with
us,
so
I
it
was
a
high
school
principal,
the
coach
david
and
myself.
We
ate
lunch
after
we
ate
lunch
and
david
signed
the
papers.
I
asked
the
coach,
I
said
coach:
did
you
bring
a
camera,
so
we
could
take
a
picture
and
he
said
oops.
I
forgot
the
principal
said:
it's
not
a
problem.
G
We
can
run
over
to
del
rio
34
miles
and
say
we
can
take
a
picture
at
the
newspaper
there,
so
we
hopped
in
the
car
to
put
the
principal
in
the
front
seat
coach
in
the
front
seat
put
david
and
I
in
the
back
seat.
Together
we
started
over
to
del
rio.
I
looked
at
david
and
I
said
david.
You
know
it's
gonna
be
a
long
ride.
Why
don't?
We
play
a
little
game
here?
I
said
I'll.
G
Ask
you
a
question:
if
you
can
answer
it,
you
can
give
me
a
dollar
and
you
can
ask
me
a
question
if
I
can't
answer
it
I'll
give
you
a
dollar,
he
said
coach.
He
said
I
like
your
game.
He
said,
but
you've
been
around
a
little
longer
than
I
am.
It
ought
to
be
that
if
you
ask
me
a
question,
I
can't
answer
it
I'll
give
you
50
cents,
and
if
I
ask
you
a
question,
you
can't
answer
I'll
give
you
a
dollar.
I
said:
okay,
dave,
that
sounds
good.
G
I
looked
at
dave
and
I
said
dave.
I
don't
I
don't
know
here.
Here's
your
dollar,
so
I
scratched
my
head
thought
I'd,
be
pretty
smart
and
said:
hey
by
the
way
david.
What
has
three
legs
and
flies?
He
said
I
don't
know
coach,
here's
your
50
cents,
so
I
learned
real
quick
that
they're
much
smarter
than
I
am
well.
Let
me
begin
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
I'm
supposed
to
address.
G
First,
thank
you
for
funding,
ktg
keys
and
cap
grants.
The
funding
has
helped
many
kentucky
students
to
further
their
education
and
enhance
the
commonwealth.
The
slide
you
see
is
what
it's
done
for
us
now
over
18
months
ago,
we
encountered
a
situation.
None
of
us
have
ever
dealt
with
in
our
life
and
that's
covid.
G
This
picture
that
you
see
shows
that
the
nation's
dealt
with
this
prior
to
online
learning
and
to
many
medical
advancements.
Sixteen
years
ago,
we
moved
into
the
online
education
market
and
over
that
time,
we've
developed
a
robust
online
delivery
system
by
no
intended
design.
We
were
well
positioned
to
pivot
our
delivery
of
education.
When
the
pandemic
hit,
it's
been
an
easy
maneuver
for
us
to
move
to
online
and
blended
delivery.
G
Also,
for
a
number
of
years,
we've
been
comparing
student
learning
outcomes
from
face-to-face
delivery,
online
synchronous,
asynchronous
delivery
and
blended
delivery.
We
have
found
no
significant
differences
in
learning
student
learning
outcomes
due
to
the
delivery
method.
Therefore,
there
was
no
drop
in
the
quality
of
our
instruction
for
our
students
when
we
did
have
to
move
to
online.
G
G
According
to
the
kentucky
council
for
post-secondary
education
for
fall
2020,
we
became
the
third
largest
institution
of
higher
learning
in
kentucky.
Now,
as
far
as
in
overall
enrollment
for
this
past
fall
semester,
we
continued
to
grow.
We
ended
the
fall
semester
with
a
student
head
count
of
nineteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty
six.
We
have
around
five
thousand
undergraduate
students
and
over
fourteen
thousand
and
five
hundred
graduate
students
we've
been
very
blessed
according
to
the
chronicle
of
higher
education,
we
are
the
fastest
growing
private,
non-profit,
doctoral
granting
college
in
the
nation.
G
Now
the
growth
of
our
online
and
graduate
programs
have
allowed
us
the
opportunity
to
stay
true
to
our
mission.
We
want
all
students
to
know
that
at
cumberlands
there
is
a
clear
and
affordable
path
to
a
college
degree.
It's
what
we
call
the
cumberland's
commitment
three
years
ago.
We
reset
our
tuition
by
dropping
it
57
percent
for
our
traditional
on-campus
students
and
here's
what
we
hoped
to
do
when
we
did
it
one.
We
hoped
it
would
increase
our
student
head
count
on
campus
two.
We
wanted
to
increase
the
number
of
students
from
kentucky
three.
G
G
G
G
Now
this
next
slide
shows
the
university's
published
costs
for
our
traditional
on-campus
students
for
20
21
22.,
with
almost
40
percent
of
our
students
being
first
generation
students.
We
wanted
to
make
pricing
simple.
We
have
no
book
charges,
we
have
no
lab
fees,
we
have
no
parking
stickers,
etcetera.
G
G
Next,
I
want
to
address
our
intentional
efforts
to
make
students
ready
for
the
workforce.
We
have
curriculum,
mapped
many
industry
standards
into
our
classes.
For
example,
all
students
in
teacher
education
become
google
classroom.
Certified
undergraduate
business
students
have
embedded
in
their
classes,
google
analytics
hubspot
sales
enablement
growth
drive,
designed
to
mention
a
few
graduate
business.
Students
are
eligible
to
set
for
project
management,
professional
chartered
financial
analyst,
financial
risk
manager,
to
mention
a
few
and
in
information
technology.
Students
have
up
to
35
certifications
embedded
into
their
coursework.
G
Some
of
those
are
the
comp
tia
cloud
plus
certified
ethical
hacker
and
comp
tia
network
plus.
It
is
our
belief.
The
university
must
partner
with
industry
to
develop
tomorrow's
workforce
and
deliver
the
education
at
a
cost
within
the
means
of
our
students.
There
must
be
a
return
on
investment
for
the
students.
G
G
The
heart
of
the
university
rests
on
its
original
founding
purpose
to
provide
a
first-class
education
at
rates
within
the
means
of
the
region's
young
people,
in
other
words,
offering
promising
students
of
all
backgrounds
a
well-rounded
academic
experience
enriched
with
christian
values,
so
that
they
have
what
it
takes
to
strive
for
excellence,
lead
with
kindness
and
give
through
service.
May
we
always
have
the
cumberland's
commitment.
A
President
cochran,
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
thanks
for
your
leadership
that
you're
providing
to
cumberlands
and
for
the
entire
region
and
also
for
the
commonwealth.
We
were
very
fortunate.
A
few
years
ago,
this
committee
held
an
interim
committee
meeting
at
your
campus
and
it
is
a
beautiful,
beautiful
campus
and
we
once
again
greatly
appreciate
your
leadership
and
all
that
you're
doing.
President
stivers.
H
If
I
could,
a
little
latitude
got
a
couple
of
questions,
some
not
as
insightful
as
others,
but
to
dr
cockrum.
Were
you
disappointed
in
the
results
of
the
basketball
game
last
night.
H
Are
you
talking
about
texas,
a
m
and
uk
just
kidding.
G
H
They'd,
let
me
in
no
a
couple
of
things:
not
only
was
there
the
committee
meeting
a
few
years
ago,
you
hosted
our
senate
leadership
with
senator,
given
senator
wilson,
a
couple
others
there,
it's
impressive
campus
and
your
growth,
and
if
you
haven't
been
there,
I
always
say
this:
it's
a
great
entry
to
kentucky
on
I-75,
because
the
first
thing
you
see
is
that
exit
coming
north
on
I-75
that
has
all
your
athletic
facilities
just
off
to
the
right,
your
growth
and
for
people.
H
What
is
your
cap
for
incoming
students
if
you
know
or
if
you
can
get
it
to
me,
and
if
that
cap
were
not
there,
would
it
be
possible
for
you
all
to
physically
handle
more
students
as
incoming
freshmen
or
if
it's
a
second
year
or
third
year
curriculum
you
have
to
get
accepted
into?
Could
you
increase
your
enrollment
in
that
program
without
much
difficulty.
G
The
answer
is
yes
to
that.
We
have
we're
capped
at
50..
We've
moved
in
to
we've
built
a
complete
new
wing
to
try
to
to
for
growth,
because
we
believe
there's
a
real
demand
in
that
area.
We
could
move
to
150
very
easily
is
what
we
could
move
to
yet
we're
not
able
to
at
this
point
in
time.
G
H
C
Mr
president,
if
I
could,
mr
chairman,
add
to
that
many
of
our
institutions
feel
that
same
way
that
we
had
the
chance
to
to
talk
with
a
number
of
the
presidents
who
have
nursing
programs.
They
all
said
unequivocally,
they
could
continue
to
have
quality,
nursing
programs
while
increasing
the
cap.
Just
for
the
record,
thank
you.
H
H
B
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
dr
cochran,
thank
you
for
being
here
today,
and
I
too
had
the
privilege
of
touring
your
campus
several
years
ago
and
what
an
incredible
campus
you
have
and
and
the
great
work
you've
done,
and
I
I
certainly
as
you
talk
about
growing
your
your
student
body
and
and
the
and
serve
you
know
as
a
service
to
the
communities
that
surround
your
college.
A
Thank
you
senator
see.
No
further
questions
is
a
proud,
independent
kentucky
college
alum.
Thank
you
all
for
the
association.
You
all
are
doing.
Thank
you
again,
president
cochran,
for
your
presentation
for
being
here
today
with
no
further
questions
or
comments
motion
for
adjournment.
So
thank
you
all.