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A
First
is
I'd:
ask
all
folks
to
silence
their
cell
phones
at
this
time
message
for
our
members
who
are
reten,
who
are
attending
remotely
during
the
roll
call.
Please
indicate
where
you're
located,
whether
you're
on
the
capitol
grounds
or
from
your
home
or
district
office
when
the
roll
call
is
done
and
just
a
reminder
that
only
those
members
that
are
on
the
capitol
grounds
or
the
annex
grounds
will
be
allowed
to
vote
present
or
on
bills
during
the
roll
call.
A
While
we've
been
in
session
for
a
few
weeks
now.
This
is
our
first
official
meeting
and
I
would
like
to
recognize
the
staff
that
we
have
going
forward.
We
have
janine
coy
committee
staff,
administrator,
audrey
ernst,
berger,
kirk
smith.
A
new
individual
crystal
thompson
want
to
welcome
her
sasha
allen.
Helen
macarthur
is
our
graduate
fella
and
caleb.
Westfall
is
our
intern
for
the
2022
session.
A
If
any
members
have
questions
or
comment,
please
signal
to
janine
or
sasha
members
attending
remotely
that
have
a
question
or
comment.
Please
send
a
message
and
zoom
using
that,
using
the
chat
function
and
before
we
get
into
the
discussion
today.
I
do
want
to
recognize
one
new
member
that
we
have
joining
us
on.
The
economic
development
committee
representative,
tim
truitt
is
new
to
this
committee
and
representative
truett.
We
want
to
welcome
you
on
board,
so
so
welcome.
C
B
B
A
President
in
the
room,
thank
you
at
this
point
we're
going
to
hear
our
first
bill
house
bill
144,
I'm
the
sponsor
and
the
presenter
at
this
time.
I'm
going
to
turn
the
chair
position
over
to
our
vice
chair,
representative
elliott,
and
let
him
conduct
the
meeting
and
I
will
go
down
and
present
the
bill
representative,
elliott.
A
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
this
committee,
the
the
piece
of
legislation
that
we
have
before
us
today
is
is
familiar
to
every
member
of
this
committee,
with
the
exception
of
representative
truitt,
who
was
not
here
in
the
21
legislative
session.
A
The
governor
line
item
vetoed
that
bill
will
save
for
another
day
the
discussion
on
whether
he
could
do
that,
but
he
did,
and
the
general
assembly,
through
late
days
in
the
session,
did
not
override
that
veto.
So
we
are
back
today
with
house
bill
144
and
it
freezes
those
rates
that
I've
brought
up
today
for
the
year
2022.
C
We
did
we
did
does.
Does
mrs
shanks
have
any
comments
that
she'd
like
to
make.
F
The
kentucky
chamber
fully
supports
this
legislation
and
thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
you
all
have
done
on.
Returning
the
unemployment,
insurance
trust
fund,
balance
back
to
its
pre-pandemic
levels
and
freezing
these
taxes,
you're
saving
employers
money
so
that
they
can
reinvest
in
their
workforce
and
their
businesses
and
better
serve
their
customers.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
chairman
for
bringing
this
legislation.
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you.
I
guess
mr
vice
chair
and
thank
you
chair
for
bringing
this
legislation
today
and
thank
you,
kate,
for
the
work
you
do
over
at
kentucky
chamber
commerce.
But
I've
got
a
question
here.
E
I
sit
on
a
r
as
well,
and
our
a
r
chairman
made
a
statement
to
us
and
a
statement
on
the
floor
about
trying
to
get
this
trust
fund
balance
back
to
where
it
needs
to
be
to
meet
federal
recommendations,
requirements
whatever
the
terminology
is,
is
closer
to
1
billion,
and
we,
of
course,
of
course,
with
the
the
pandemic
that
we
were
in.
E
We
had
to
exhaust
a
lot
of
funds,
even
borrow
money,
and
we
were
able
to
pay
those
loans
back
with
some
federal
funds
and-
and
if
I
remember
right,
I
think
we
appropriated
312
million
to
bring
it
back
to
pre-pandemic
levels.
What
the
trust
fund
was.
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
this
counter
to
what
a
r
chair
is
trying
to
do
to
to
build
back
up?
Is?
E
Is
this
what
what
kind
of
impacts
are
we
looking
at,
and
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
expand
it
because
it
looks
like
we're
doing
two
different
things
here,
so
just
expand
on
that
a
little
bit
more
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
A
A
The
general
assembly
did
appropriate
312
million
dollars
through
our
proposed
budget,
which
will
elevate
us
back
up
to
the
pre-pandemic
level
of
the
unemployment
trust
fund.
One
of
the
things
that
I
maintain
in
bringing
this
bill
forward
is
the
fact
that,
right
now,
our
businesses
across
the
commonwealth
are
because
of
our
workforce
issues
are
paying
higher
wages.
A
A
We
have
businesses
right
now
I
talked
to
an
employer
yesterday
he
has
three
open
positions
in
his
company
that
pay
forty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
he
can't
get
anyone
to
apply
for
those
positions
right
now,
a
recent
decent
wage.
A
This
is
a
one-year
freeze
that
will
continue
to
allow
our
businesses
and
I'm
going
to
say,
small
businesses,
because
that's
really
the
bulk
of
what
we're
talking
about
in
the
commonwealth
right
now.
Small
business
owners
that
this
this
allows
them
to
keep
their
doors
open,
meet
these
costs
that
are
that
are
still
there.
A
Those
costs
are
still
going
to
those
bills
are
still
going
to
have
to
be
paid,
and
this
gives
them
some
breathing
room,
because
if
we
don't
have
these
businesses
open
in
the
future,
you
know
we
won't
have
folks
paying
in
to
the
trust
fund
to
get
it
to
where
we
need
to
be,
and
so
I
see
this
as
an
overall
structure
toward
helping
us
get
there.
Our
unemployment
trust
fund
hasn't
been
solvent
since
1974,
only
one
other
state
has
been
insolvent
longer
than
we
have.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
response.
If
I
just
do
a
follow-up,
mr
advice.
E
A
I'm
not
aware
of
any
other
than
the
312
million.
You
know,
I
can't
predict
the
future.
Originally
the
bill
called
for
a
two-year
freeze
at
the
time
in
the
21
session,
when
that
was
presented,
we
saw
that
as
a
reasonable
approach
to
give
businesses
that
breathing
room
that
they
needed
to
keep
their
doors
open
and
keep
employing
folks,
I
can't
predict
what
the
future
is.
A
E
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
challenges
of
the
pandemic,
especially
in
many
many
small
business
sectors
that
I'm
a
small
business
owner
myself.
So
I
understand
the
challenges
that
are
out
there.
We've
got
major
challenges
and
many
many
aspects
moving
forward
so
certainly
workforce
is
is
one
of
them
and
if
I
just
asked
one
final
question.
E
A
I
received
communication
from
the
labor
cabinet
indicating
what
they
calculated
the
financial
impact
would
be
on.
This
you'd
have
to
ask
them
whether
they're
opposed
or
supportive
of
it.
A
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
so
this
question
may
be
a
little
more
for
miss
shanks.
Could
you
elaborate
maybe
on
how
businesses
are
doing
today?
I
have
a
contact
within
the
restaurant
industry
and
he
said
you
know
some
are
doing
better.
Some
are
doing
much
better.
Some
are
still
struggling
and,
of
course,
employment
and
staffing
is
always
an
issue
and
the
ppp
loans
and
the
restaurant
revitalization
award
grants
were
very
helpful.
D
F
F
F
We
aren't
out
of
the
situation
that
we're
in
with
the
pandemic,
just
in
the
sense
of
the
uncertainty.
It
creates,
of
course,
we're
dealing
with
a
new
variant
right
now.
I
think
we're
at
32
positivity
rate
these
days,
so
the
hospitals
are
dealing
with
that
they're
dealing
with
worker
shortages
as
well,
and
so
it's
it's
challenging,
but
I
will
say
that
there
is
great,
I
think,
optimism
about
the
opportunities
that
we
have
in
kentucky.
F
There's
been
significant
job
growth
and
when
I
talk
about
the
economy,
I
always
talk
about
two
sides
of
an
equation
where
we
have
to
create
jobs
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that
and
we're
seeing
so
many
of
the
policies
that
you
all
have
put
in
place
over
the
years.
Really.
You
know
the
benefits
come
to
fruition
on
that,
but
we
have
to
have
the
workers
to
fill
the
jobs
we
need
we
need
to
have.
F
We
need
to
deal
with
both
sides
of
that
equation
in
order
to
achieve
the
economic
prosperity
that
we
know
we
can
achieve
in
kentucky,
and
so
that's
why
we've
been
so
focused
on
workforce.
But
you
know
this
legislation
and
other
legislation
that
we're
working
on
this
session
is
going
to
be
directed
at
us
continuing
to
recover
from
this
pandemic.
The
economic
crisis
that
it
created,
while
also
addressing
these
workforce
challenges,
and
so
I
think
what
you're
hearing
from
your
constituents
is
pretty
consistent
about
what
we're
hearing
across
the
state.
F
D
Yes,
definitely,
it
does,
may
ask
one
follow-up.
Absolutely.
D
D
F
Last
year
it
was
closer
to
a
hundred
dollars
per
employee
because
we
had
a
more
severe
situation
with
our
unemployment
insurance
trust
fund,
and
so
we
were
looking
at
going
from
schedule
a
to
schedule
e,
whereas
this
year
it's
c
to
a,
we
have
schedule
c
in
place.
This
would
freeze
it
at
schedule
a
and
so
we're
looking
at
about
a
seventy
dollar
per
employee
savings
because
of
this
legislation.
F
D
Very
informative,
so
just
one
last
plug
that
we
really
need
to
have
more
high
quality
child
care,
so
we
can
get
more
of
our
women
back
in
the
workforce.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
presenting
this
bill.
I
just
I
had
a
quick
question
and
I
apologize.
I
know
that
we
probably
went
over
this.
The
last
time
this
bill
was
presented.
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
entities
that
would
be
impacted
and
what
the
rate
is
that's
going
to
be
frozen
for
them
and
then
just
wanted
to
also
reiterate
one
of
the
questions
that
rob
bojanowski
asked
in
terms
of
how
this
will
impact.
G
I
know
you
mentioned
seventy
dollars
per
worker,
for
I
mean
is
it
across
the
board,
including
for
micro
businesses,
and
how
does
it
impact
different,
different
types
of
entities
and
I
guess
different
sizes,
and
then
what
is
that?
What
is
the
rate
that's
being
frozen?.
A
So,
representative,
col
carney,
the
rate,
is
determined
based
upon
the
amount
of
money
in
the
trust
fund
and
so
in
september,
of
2021.
A
A
This
legislation
will
take
that
back
to
schedule
a
for
the
year
2022,
because
our
trust
fund
actually
is
with
the
infusion
of
the
312
million
dollars
were
getting
up
to
about
619
million
in
in
the
in
the
trust
fund,
unemployment,
trust
fund,
and
this
would
be
across
the
board
for
for
for
businesses.
H
H
H
So
is
there
some
sort
of
my
question
is:
is
there
some
sort
of
agreement
with
the
senate
that
that
ui
trust
fund
money
is
going
to
stay
in
what
the
general
assembly
eventually
passes
as
its
budget?
Because,
if
it's
not,
then
this
bill
is
a
little
bit.
You
know
potentially
premature
and
maybe
even
could
have
some
harmful
consequences
to
the
ui
trust
fund.
A
I'm
not
aware
of
a
promise
or
a
commitment
that's
been
made,
but
I
have
talked
to
our
a
r
chair.
He
feels
pretty
confident
that
that
this
will
remain
in
the
process.
The
general
assembly
as
a
whole
decided
in
the
21
session
that
we
would
use
those
federal
monies
to
pay
down
the
the
loan,
the
federal
loan
that
was
taken.
So
I
think
as
a
whole.
A
There
is
a
consensus
in
the
general
assembly
that
this
is
an
important
issue,
and
so
I
think
it's
you
know
I
can't
make
predictions,
but
I
do
know
that
on
our
side,
we'll
certainly
be
advocating
very
strongly
that
it
remain
in
there
and.
H
We
have
on
our
side,
and-
and
that
is
not
what
I'm
getting
at
here-
we've
we've
all
done
our
part,
but
you
never
know
what's
going
to
happen
between
our
budget,
the
senate
budget
and
that
conference
committee
report,
and
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
other
people
are
aware
of
that
as
well.
We're
just
gonna
have
to
watch
this.
You
know
over
the
next
few
months.
Thank
you.
Well,.
C
C
C
C
H
B
E
Thank
you.
I
was
a
yes
before
on
this
and
I'm
going
to
be
a
yes
today
again
this
morning.
My
concerns
are
less
about
this
particular
bill
and
more
about
what
might
happen
in
the
future.
But
today
this
morning
I
am
a
yes
thank
you.
C
C
I
G
C
F
Yes,
I'd
like
to
record
a
yes
vote
and
make
sure
that
I'm
marked
as
present
yeah.
Thank
you
representative.