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A
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watching
on
line.
Please
make
sure
you
unmute.
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you
need
to
talk,
we've
got
the
commit
similar
committee
procedures
to
last
year.
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committee
meetings
will
last
one
hour,
bill's,
not
posted
committee
and
sponsor
until
sponsor
gives
assurance
it
can
pass
the
both
committee
and
the
full
house
speaking
limit
is
three
minutes
per
member
unless
changed
by
the
chair.
A
And
if
you
have
spoken,
you
get
one
minute
to
explain
your
vote
and
if
you
have
not
spoken,
you'll
get
two
minutes
to
explain
your
vote.
Members
can
vote
remotely,
but
they
must
be
on
the
capitol
campus
and,
as
always,
I
will
try
to
get
you
committee
substitutes
as
early
as
possible.
No
later
than
midnight
of
the
day
before
I
have
a
guest
special
guest.
A
C
A
President
and
I
believe
we
have
a
quorum
and
first
item
on
the
agenda-
is
senate
bill
25,
sponsored
by
senator
wise.
While
there
is
a
committee
sub,
I
don't
want
to
call
the
sub
yet
because
senator
wise
has
to
leave
so
after
he
presents
the
original
senate
bill
25.
I
will
call
the
sub
so
welcome.
Senator
wise.
E
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
I
think
the
first
time
I've
appeared
before
your
committee,
so
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
25
that
is
before
you
all
senate
bill.
25,
in
essence,
is
an
extension
upon
work
that
both
chambers
did
during
the
special
session
of
senate
bill
1
as
related
to
covet
19
for
our
educational
school
systems.
E
Many
of
the
issues
from
senate
bill
25
remain
in
effect
of
what
was
put
forth
with
senate
bill
1..
However,
there
were
a
few
things
that
needed
extensions,
because
there
were
deadlines
of
december
31st
of
of
this
past
year
that
we
had
to
go
back
into
a
senate
bill
25
to
grant
those
extensions
going
forward.
I
would
provide
those
extensions
are
for
absences
related
to
covet
19
absences
for
school
districts
remote
instruction
days
now.
I
do
want
everyone
in
the
audience
to
know
before
here
and
also
viewing
remote
instruction
is
not
nti.
E
E
It
does
say
in
the
bill
before
you
that
there
will
be
10
days
given
per
school
different
than
what
we
had
in
senate
bill
1,
which
was
per
school
district.
This
is
more
of
a
surgical
strike
of
where,
if
you
have
a
5th
grade
class
that
needs
to
be
shut
down
for
covet
19,
a
school
building
can
close
that
particular
grade.
If
they
wish
to
do
an
entire
high
school,
they
can
do
so
so,
instead
of
a
district
completely
closing
down,
this
would
be
more
of
a
strike
to
those
individuals
within
the
school
building.
E
Also,
with
this,
there
was
an
expiration
of
those
10
days
we
gave
in
senate
bill
1
in
the
special
session.
Those
all
expired
as
of
december
31st,
we're
not
tacking
on
a
days
from
previously,
so
this
starts
now
with
10..
This
does
not
affect
nti.
This
is
not
extending
nti.
This
is
just
for
those
remote
instruction
days.
It
also
allows
flexibility
with
hiring,
especially
within
ktrs,
for
those
substitutes
that
we're
needing
right
now.
E
This
does
allow
part
or
full-time
certified
or
classified
physicians,
who
have
completed
the
minimum
requirements
to
be
able
to
do
so
that
they
can
be
a
break
in
their
employment
for
one
month.
This
extends
as
well
for
those
wishing
to
help
in
that
aspect,
and,
lastly,
this
also
extends
the
hiring
threshold
from
one
percent
to
10
percent
of
staff.
That
also
is
an
extension.
We've
seen
the
need
for
more
staff,
so
we
have
also
increased
that
with
ktrs.
There
is
no
impact.
There
was
an
actuarial
analysis
done
to
this
bill.
A
E
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
senator
I
wanna
thank
you
for
bringing
this
this
bill.
My
understanding
is
this
is
going
to
keep
the
kids
in
jefferson
county
public
schools
in
school
more.
What
it
does,
I
think,
and
make
sure
I'm
right
about
this
is
it
gives
my
superintendent
the
option?
We
have
155
schools
and
it
gives
them
more
options.
Seventeen
percent
of
our
teachers
have
coveted
and
were
unable
to
come
to
to
school,
and
so
that's
the
reason
that
we're
out
of
out
of
school
this
week.
D
Those
seventeen
percent
are
not
uniform
throughout
the
county,
so
it
might
be
that
fern
creek
needs
to
be
take
off,
but
eastern
high
school
does
not
and
is
it?
Is
it
your
view
that
what
this
does
is
it
gives
the
superintendent
of
jcps
and
other
superintendents
more
flexibility
to
keep
the
the
remainder
of
the
kids
within
our
counties
in
school
representative.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
you're
exactly
right,
my
goal
and
I
think
it's
the
goal
for
everyone
is
in
person
learning
at
all
advantageous
reasons.
We
know
that
that
is
what's
best
for
children.
This
does
provide
flexibility
for
superintendents
to
make
that
decision
and
once
again
without
completing
shutting
down
an
entire
district.
It's
more
of
that
surgical
strike
to
do
so
within
school
walls.
F
I
want
to
ask
the
question
with
regards
to
the
larger
school
districts
and
I
have
two
school
districts.
I
have
the
county
school,
which
is
larger
than
the
city
school.
With
regards
to
places
like
bowling
green,
my
colleagues
sit
next
to
me,
lexington
louisville,
some
of
the
bigger
communities
that
have
a
number
of
schools.
F
This
will
give
the
superintendent.
My
understanding
from
this
bill
is
that
the
superintendent
working
with
the
the
different
schools
within
the
the
the
district
will
decide
which
schools
are
open,
so
one
high
school
on
one
side
of
the
county
could
still
be
in
operation
with
the
other,
having
coveted
issues
and
having
to
shut
down
the
school.
So
how
will
that
internally,
with
the
districts,
for
example,
in
terms
of
the
school
days
that
they
have
to
be
in
and
the
initial
end
of
the
school
year?
F
E
If,
if
we
were
to
save
okay,
if
it's
I'm
going
to
use
warren
east
high
school,
if
warren
east
high
school
is
needing
for
the
ninth
grade
from
warren
east
high
school
to
shut
down,
that's
one
day
for
warren
east
high
school
just
for
that
grade,
so
they
have
nine
days
left
of
using
these
remote
instruction
days,
which
will
be
added
on
for
them
to
be
able
to
utilize.
If
it's
for
a
fifth
grade
class
or
if
it's
for
a
a
basketball
team,
all
of
a
sudden
they've
got
it
it's
spread
throughout.
E
They
decided,
for
whatever
reason
those
10
days
are
used
per
school
building
to
be
able
to
utilize
for
this.
So
it
does
provide
that
great
flexibility.
Remember
also,
we
have
in
this
legislation
1062
hours
that
school
districts
can
utilize
if
they
wish
to
make
up
time
frame
lost
with
using
that
we've
seen
some
districts
right
now,
adding
30
minutes
on
to
a
daily
routine.
That
could
be
15
minutes
in
the
morning.
E
G
Thank
you
just
a
quick
query,
clarifying
question
and
thank
you
for
this
bill.
I
have
a
school
in
my
district
that
it's
an
elementary
and
a
middle
school
that
share
a
cafeteria,
so
they
they're
an
adjoining
building
if
you
will
but
they're
they're
separated,
but
then
there's
a
cafeteria
that
joins
them.
Would
this
bill
mean
that
if
somebody
in
ninth
grade
eighth
grade
was
of
a
class
eighth
grade
was
let
off,
then
that
would
also
eliminate
the
elementary
school
which
is
separate,
but
because
of
that
that
one,
you
know
the
lunch
room.
E
The
only
thing
we
and-
and
I've
got
my
policy
analyst
joe
burks
here
behind
me-
who
helped
tremendously
with
this
bill.
The
only
way
is,
if
they're
in
the
same
school
building,
if
the
high
school
and
elementary
school
is
in
that
in
terms
of
this
cafeteria
that
may
be
within
a
corridor
joe.
If
you
don't
mind,
if
I
could
have
you
come
up
to
the
table,
please
just
for
clarification.
That's
a
pretty
nitty-gritty
question!
We've
never
gotten
before
representatives!
So
congratulations!
H
Staff,
joe
burks
policy
staff,
with
education
and
typically,
if
there's
no
answer
to
the
question,
then
they
ask
me:
there
are
a
variety
of
settings
just
like
you
explained,
but
the
flexibility
that
has
been
given
is
instead
of
20
days
per
district,
where
a
superintendent
has
to
figure
this
out
and
get
the
calculator
out
and
figure
it
out,
it's
10
per
school.
If
the
schools
share
the
same
buses
in
the
same
cafeteria,
maybe
not
the
same
total
building
but
the
same
even
campus.
H
H
G
Don't
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
redirect
my
question
was
for
this
bill?
If
an
eighth
grade
class
is
sent
home
for
two
days,
would
that
count
off?
G
A
Welcome
and
so
at
this
time
I'm
gonna
call
ask
for
a
motion
on
to
accept
the
committee
sub.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
committee
sub.
Please
signify
saying
aye
aye
aye,
like
son,
so
the
sub
is
before
us
now.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
technical
thing,
so
I'm
going
to
read
a
description
of
this
of
the
sub
and
then
I
have
a
couple
of
trustee
lawyers,
one
rachel
volk
at
the
table
and
another
chris
steven
tottenhoev
at
on
zoom.
A
So
we
we
need
to
get
this
out
and
to
the
floor
because
several
of
our
state
of
emergencies
expire
before
next
tuesday
or
next
monday,
so
or
tuesday,
tuesday.
So
there
is
some
urgency
to
this
bill.
A
Section.
Four
extends
certain
administrative
actions
issued
by
boards
and
commissions
in
order
to
for
them
to
transition
back
to
normal
conditions
operations.
Then
we
jump
to
a
section
five,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine.
That
starts
on
page
seven
extends
certain
admin:
emergency
administrative
regulations
related
to
federal,
osha,
expedited
hearings
and
workers,
compensation,
the
wastewater
grant
program,
low-income
utility
arrears,
continuing
education
requirements,
testing
and
vaccine
shortages
and
the
visitation
guidelines
for
long-term
facilities.
A
Section
10
says
the
governor
cannot
declare
a
new
emergency
based
upon
the
same
or
substantially
the
similar
facts
or
circumstances
section
11.
On
page
nine,
if
any
suspension
of
statutes
is
included
in
an
executive
or
administrative
action,
there
must
be
prior
approval
of
the
attorney
general
section.
12,
13
and
14
deal
with
education,
which
you've
already
heard
section.
15
and
16
relate
to
extending.
A
A
for
coven
19
absences
remote
instructions
may
be
temporarily
provided
to
a
particular
school
grade,
classroom
or
group
of
no
more
than
10
days
per
school.
Not
the
entire
district,
which
we
really
just
discussed
as
well
allows
ktrs.
Actually,
I'm
on
the
I'm
on
the
education
side,
all
right
section,
17
declared
emergency.
A
And
then,
finally,
it
remains,
in
effect,
without
reauthorization
continues
to
stabilize
school
funding,
assists
with
staffing
shortages
and
creates
conditions
for
state
and
local
health
departments
to
support
local
school
districts.
Coven
19
plans
for
masking
contact,
tracing
and
quarantining
for
seek
funding
for
2022-23.
It
allows
districts
to
use
either
20
1819
or
2019-20
data
for
2021-22
purposes.
A
Attendance
growth
will
be
addressed
during
the
2022
session,
temporary
waivers
for
utilizing
certified,
classified
emergency
and
substitute
staff
background
checks
for
superintendents
may
employ
all
individuals
on
probationary
status
after
receiving
background
approval
from
the
administ
kentucky
administrative
office
of
the
courts,
while
pending
receipt
of
kentucky
state
police
background
checks
and
finally
allow
school
districts
to
waive
the
170
instructional
days
and
utilize,
the
equivalent
1062
hours
to
accomplish
makeup
days
under
certain
conditions,
questions
I'm
going
to
allow
you
to
direct
your
question
to
our
lawyers
and
rachel
volk
or
christie
van
tattenhove
will
answer
as
appropriate,
depending
on
their
areas
of
expertise.
I
I
Trying
to
hit
unmute
without
having
to
be
on
video,
which
I
failed
at
both.
So
I'm
sorry
representative.
This
does
relate
strictly
to
their
licensure.
It
does
not
address
the
collaborative
agreement.
If
that's
your
question:
okay,
okay,
so
yes
or
no,
does
it
extend
what
we
had
in
previous
executive
orders
and
and
and
from
the
special
session?
I
J
I
J
I
I
think
you're,
referring
to
I'm
sorry.
The
pharmacist
is
allowed
to
renew
a
prescription
for
30
days
without
the
approval.
J
I
C
J
G
A
Let
me
pause
this
I've.
It's
been
pointed
out,
I'm
in
such
a
hurry.
I
did
not
ask
for
emotion
on
the
sub,
as
are
on
the
bill
as
amended.
Could
I
have
that
most.
C
C
D
C
C
C
C
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
title,
amendment
title
amendment
going
to
have
a
voice
vote
on
that
if
we
accept
it
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
like
sign,
and
the
title
amendment
has
been
accepted.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
house
bill,
56
sponsored
by
representative
thomas
huff.
A
Welcome
and
pull
the
mics
close
to
you
turn
them
on
and
pull
them
close
to
you
and
and
the
floor
is
yours
and
your
guests.
K
K
A
L
L
Good,
we
just
hit
our
one-year
mark
for
the
death
of
our
fire
chief
rob
orkies,
who
first
received
cancer
and
was
going
through
that
process
with
the
cancer
and
was
still
very,
very
active
with
us
and
and
a
lot
of
community
events.
While
he
was
going
through
this
process
and
later
on
through
that
process,
he
he
received
covid
and
and
passed
away
shortly,
a
few
about
a
month
after
that,
after
he
received
kovitz
once
he
went
to
the
hospital
he
never
got
out
of
the
hospital.
He.
C
L
A
Well,
we
we
certainly
respect
the
sacrifice
of
those
men
and
thank
you
for
your
presence
here
today.
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
questions
on
the
bill?
G
Representative
huff,
thanks
for
bringing
this
bill,
I
do
have
a
question
in
the
line
of
duty.
Obviously,
is
is
a
term
that
we
use
with
a
lot
of
respect
that
if
an
officer
goes
down
the
line
of
duty,
we
want
as
a
state
to
obviously
take
care
of
that
officer
in
regards
to
covin
it.
G
K
I
don't
know
if
you
can
determine
where
a
person
actually
receives
covet,
so
I
mean
whether
they
got
it.
Let's,
let's,
if
they
were
on
a
two-week
vacation
in
mexico
and
came
back
and
were
diagnosed
with
covet,
then
they
would
not
be
eligible
for
this
right.
They
have
to
be
in
the
line
of
duty
within
two
weeks.
G
I
just
know
that,
and
I've
had
covert
twice
now
and
I've
been
vaccinated
and
I'm
not
in
the
line
of
duty
like
like
an
officer
would
be,
but
there's
there's
so
many
places
to
get
coven.
That
almost
seems
like
almost
any
first
responder
that
gets
coded
and
dies
from
it.
The
state
will
have
to
pay
line
of
duty
benefits,
which
maybe
wasn't
a
line
of
duty,
coveted
exposure.
K
Absolutely
are
well
for
one
thing:
our
first
responders
they'll
they
go
out.
They'll
pull
you
out
of
a
car
they'll
pull
you
out
of
a
burning
house.
We
had,
I
believe
you
said
three
in
the
last
24
hours,
where
houses
burned,
so
I
mean
they
go
in
there
without
any
without
any
regard
for
their
own
health.
If
you
will
to
to
rescue
these
people
now,
whether
again,
there's
no
way
to
determine
where
they
actually
received
the
virus,
I
mean.
A
I'll
take
chair
privilege
and
just
make
this
comment,
though
you
know
we
in
in
the
summer,
up
until
the
summer
of
20
to
20
20,
I
think
we
had
this
illusion.
We
could
contact,
trace
and
really
narrow
it
down.
I
think,
with
delta
and
currently
with
omicron.
A
L
You
know
with
taxing
the
ems
service
and
then
being
so
busy
taking
care
of
these
patients.
It's
actually
doubled,
sometimes
tripled
a
lot
of
the
services
fire
agencies
to
back
up
the
ems
services,
so
the
fire
service
is
still
hands-on
to
a
lot
of
these
patients
taking
care
of
them
until
they
can
get
a
name
there.
You
know
a
lot
of
it.
L
K
Yes,
incidentally,
there
is
a
fiscal
impact
report
included
in
your
packet,
and
it
says
that
the
estimated
fiscal
impact
is
expected
to
be
minimal
and
be
mostly
administrative
in
nature.
Also,
the
klc
and
caico
are
not
affected.
A
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
representative
for
bringing
this.
I
want
to
provide
a
little
clarification.
The
way
I
understand
the
bill,
so
this
is
a
presumption
bill,
which
means
there
will
be
a
presumption
that
the
the
member
has
contracted
the
virus
through
this,
it
can
be
challenged.
M
The
other
part
of
this
is
this
is
not
full
line
of
duty
benefits
through
the
pension
system.
This
is
a
line
of
duty,
one
time
death
benefit
of,
I
believe
it's
80
000,
which
previously,
through
the
experiences
that
the
chief
has
talked
about,
was
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
to
get
to,
and
this
is
just
making
it
clearer
easier
to
do.
We've
not
had
too
many
line
of
dead
line
of
duty
deaths
related
to
covet.
M
Fortunately,
there
may
be
a
few,
but
to
capture
the
the
gentleman
who
or
the
ladies
and
gentlemen
whoever
is
possibly
has
contracted
and
passed
because
of
the
virus.
They
will
be
eligible
for
the
presumption
of
this
benefit
and
it
is
a
one-time.
Eighty
thousand
dollar
benefit.
It's
not
that
we're
not
talking
about
very
much
in
a
dollar
since
here.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I
was
going
to
say
the
same
thing
that
my
friend
from
kenton
said.
I
would
also
note
that
it's
minimal
cost
to
the
administration
administrative
costs,
but
it's
not
minimal
to
the
individual
first
responder,
it's
very
significant
to
them,
and
it
is
again
to
just
highlight
an
important
point
that
my
friend
representative
wheatley
mentioned
is.
This
is
a
presumption
somebody's
going
to
have
to
make
the
case
all
we're
saying
is
rather
than
the
first
responders
family
having
to
make
the
case
it's
now
the
administrative
agency,
and
I
think,
that's
appropriate.
A
J
G
Quickly,
explain
explain
my
vote.
I
think
this
bill
has
a
lot
of
merit
and
and
needs
to
be
considered
with.
That
being
said,
I
need
to
think
about
some
things
more.
I
want
to
read
some
more
on
it,
so
at
this
time
I'm
not
going
to
vote
no,
but
I'm
just
going
to
pass.
I
C
Explain
that
yes
vote,
mr
chairman,
please
so
I
am
voting
yes
and
I
simply
have
to
say
that
there
is
obviously
a
possibility
that
a
line
of
duty
finding
here
might
not
actually
be
a
line
of
duty,
very
unlikely,
I
would
say,
but
ultimately
we
owe
it
to
our
first
responders
and
and
our
firefighters
to
support
them
in
this,
and
we
owe
them
that
presumption
and
so
yes,
thank
you.
C
C
C
C
A
Yes,
motion
carries
with
favorable
expression.
Same
two
shall
pass
on
the
floor.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr.
C
I
record
a
yes
vote.
Yes,
representative,.
A
Did
you
vote
on
the
first
senate
bill
25,
okay,
good
good!
All
right
next
item
is
house
bill,
76
sponsored
by
me,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
my
co-chair
bratcher
to
take
the
gavel
right
now.
A
Representative
jerry
miller
from
the
36th
district-
thank
you,
mr
chairman
house.
Bill
76
is
about
actuarial
investigations
of
our
pension
systems,
retirement
systems.
This
has
been
heard
in
ppob.
It
was
recommended
by
ppob
as
an
item
that
they
wanted
to
recommend
to
the
body
and,
as
provided
by
state
law,
our
state
administrative
retirement
systems
are
required
to
undergo,
what's
called
an
actuarial
experience,
study
to
evaluate
the
reliability
of
assumptions
used
in
our
actuarial
evaluations.
A
A
few
years
ago,
this
body
passed
a
bill
to
standardize
the
reporting
by
the
systems
which
intended
to
require
each
system
to
perform
an
actuarial
experience
study,
at
least
once
every
five
years,
standardize
that
reporting
and
to
so
that
we
could
everyone,
even
those
non-financially
oriented
representatives
and
senators,
could
understand.
The
impact
of
a
bill.
A
Assumptions
fall
into
two
categories:
economic
assumptions,
which
is
happens
to
relate
to
investment,
returns,
payroll
growth,
things
like
that
and
then
the
demographic
assumptions,
which
is
things
like
rates
of
retirement,
longevity
in
the
job
mortality
rates,
it's
very
costly
to
do
these
and
requires
an
actuary,
and
that's
really
it's
the
costly
nature
of
the
demographics.
Why?
We
only
require
these
economic
assumption
evaluations
every
five
years.
A
This
bill
changes
that
so
that
the
financial,
the
economic
assumptions
are
to
be
done
every
two
years
in
the
summer
prior
to
the
start
of
albanian
biennium,
so
that
we
will
have
that
data
prior
to
doing
the
budget
and
the
reason
for
for
bifurcating.
This
light
is
that
since
seven
since
2016,
we've
had
some
pretty
big
swings
in
our
economic
evaluations
or
our
actuarial
experience
studies
and
the
most
of
the
impact
comes
through.
A
The
economic
assumption
changes
not
through
the
demographic
assumption
changes
generally,
and
so
we
will
allow
this
bill
would
allow
the
demographic
assumptions
to
be
to
stay
on
that
five-year
cycle,
because
again,
it's
very
expensive
to
do
those.
But
the
economic
assumptions
which
is
most
of
the
impact
of
the
evaluations
typically
would
be
every
two
years.
The
bill
changes
really
don't
impact
our
financials
and
budget
requests
until
fiscal
year
2024,
and
that
is
in
non-codified
language.
At
the
end
of
the
bill,
and
recent
history
again
has
shown
trs
in
trs.
A
Financial
is
not
as
big
an
impact
there
as
demographic
changes,
but
in
krs
experience
study
it
it's
a
little
bit
different.
So
with
that
I'll
throw
the
floral
ask,
mr
chairman,
for
any
questions
the
committee
may
have.
M
Thank
you
and
yes,
representative.
We
we
did
recommend
this
in
pso
or
ppob,
but
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
something
I
don't.
I
want
to
be
clear
on
the
actuarial
studies
that
are
required
to
be
done
every
two
years
now
on
the
financials.
Was
there
a
completion
date
during
the
summer
or
a
start
date
during
the?
Is
there
a
start
date
or
a
completion
date
listed
as
to
when
the
study
needs
to
be
done.
A
Well,
the
the
it
would
indicate
that
the
financials
assumption
economic
assumptions
would
be
done
essentially
in
the
odd
years,
every
other
odd
in
the
odd
years,
so
that
we
would
have
that
data
for
the
budget
preparation.
A
So
so
that's
what
we
talk
about
in
terms
of
when,
when
is
it
really
going
to
hit
us?
The
the
five-year
cycle
is
unaffected
for
the
demographic
evaluations,
which
is
the
very
costly
you
know,
you've
got
to
go
back
and
you
haven't
have
to
have
an
actuary
and
it's
they've
got
to
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
to
do
that.
A
M
A
J
C
J
C
C
F
C
C
C
B
K
J
C
A
J
House,
bill
76
passes
with
favorable
expression
and
we're
adjourned.
Thank.