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A
Operations
and
revenue
committee
to
hear
some
very
important
reports
that
we
had
requested
in
last
year's
state
budget
bill
being,
as
we
in
essence
have
two
or
two
meetings.
At
the
same
time,
one
house,
one
Senate,
just
happened
to
be
in
the
same
room
unless
the
Parkinson
state
fair
board,
object
and
would
like
to
make
this
presentation
twice,
in
which
case
we
can
split
it
up
or
we
can
just
call
roll
for
both
of
them.
So
I'll
go
with
call
the
roll
portion,
Madam
Secretary
called
the
role
for
the
Senate.
Please.
A
F
B
Flannery
representative
Fleming
representative
Frazier
Gordon
here
representative
Freeland
representative
fugit,
here
representative
Gentry,
representative
Hart,
representative
Johnson,
here
representative
McCool,
representative
McPherson,
here
representative
Palumbo,
representative
Raymond,
representative
Riley,
representative
Stevenson,
here
representative
Upchurch,
here
by
Cher
Reed,
chair
Petrie.
Here.
A
All
right
very
well
see
Dr
Douglas,
Senator
Boswell
here
in
case
we
didn't
get
them
earlier
all
right
this
time,
could
we
have
representatives
of
the
state
fair
board
come
to
the
table?
Please.
A
All
right,
Gentlemen
Just
quickly
by
way
of
housekeeping
when
you
get
started,
please
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record,
then
you're
going
to
have
a
half
a
total
total
of
a
half
an
hour
for
this
presentation,
I'd
like
to
ask
we
keep
your
comments
to
20
minutes
or
less
and
then
leave
us
about
10
minutes
for
questions
and
answers.
Please,
gentlemen:
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I'll
get
started.
I'm
Dr,
Mark,
Lynn
I'm,
the
chair,
Kentucky
Fair
board,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
A
Mr
Beck,
would
you
please
push
the
button
on
the
front
of
your
mic
till
the
green
light
comes
on.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
Good
morning,
first
of
all,
I
went
to
we've
introduced
ourselves
and
I
want
to
thank
both
committees
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
today
and
thank
the
legislature
for
the
appropriation
that
you
made
last
year
for
the
Kentucky
state,
fair
board
and
for
the
Expo,
Center
and
and
all
of
our
properties.
First
I
was
sort
of
give
you
an
overview
of
the
history
of
the
of
the
Kentucky
State,
fairgrounds
and
I.
Think
everyone
should
have
received
our
packet
that
that
you
have
of
the
study
that
we
had
performed.
I
I
That
facility
at
the
time
was
one
of
the
largest
indoor
facilities
in
the
United.
States
then
took
about
40
years
to
up
until
a
night
or
I'm.
Sorry,
20
years
before
there
were
any
further
expansions
done.
We
had
the
East
Hall
and
the
West
Hall
that
were
done.
1977
we
built
Broadbent,
Arena
and
2003.
We
did
South
Wing
C
and
in
2006
we
did
the
North
Wing,
so
it's
been
since
2006
as
we've
had
any
major
renovations
to
our
facilities.
I
What
we
see
is
our
biggest
issues
is
beginning
to
stay
relevant
with
our
competitive
set.
When
we
look
at
the
other
facilities
throughout
the
United
States
that
we
compete
with,
especially
in
our
livestock
and
equestrian
events,
we
need
to,
we
feel
like
we
need
to
step
that
up.
What
we
have
is
we
have
West,
Wing
I.
Think
many
of
you
have
been
there
familiar
with
if
you've
been
there
during
the
state,
fair,
that's
where
all
of
our
animals
are
West.
Wing
is
the
last
original
part
of
the
Kentucky
State
Fairgrounds.
I
It
was
built
in
1956,
it's
got
short
ceilings.
It's
got
a
lot
of
columns,
so
we
are
limited
into
what
we
can
use
that
facility
for
it's
primarily
again
livestock.
If
you
were
there
last
week,
maybe
during
the
national
farm
machinery
show
you
can
see,
we
do
use
it
for
vendors
for
that,
but
it's
it's
limited
use.
So
when
we
are
doing
volleyball
and
basketball,
we
volleyball,
we
have
we'll,
have
120
courts
in
South
Wing.
I
We
could
expand
that
if
we
had
higher
ceilings
and
better
facilities
to
maximize
our
usage
of
the
property.
So
we
started
looking
at
a
master
plan.
What
we
did
is
we.
We
looked
at
the
shortfalls
that
we
have
on
the
west
wing
and
how
can
we
best
take
care
of
that
problem
going
forward?
I
And
basically,
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
increase
the
net
revenue
per
square
foot
of
our
facility.
If
we
can
still
maintain
the
priority
of
any
new
facility
that
we
construct
to
be
equestrian
and
livestock,
so
would
have
all
of
the
facilities
that
we
need
in
their
wash
racks,
but
also
have
the
tall
ceilings
like
we
do
in
South
Wing
Sea
sand,
North
Wing,
then
we
can
also
use
those
for
other
events
for
trade
shows
for
conventions
and
for
all
of
our
sporting
events
that
we
have
on
the
property.
I
So
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
other
priority
when
we
were
looking
at
this
was
to
have,
as
least
of
impact
as
we
can
on
our
existing
events
and
design
any
construction
where
we
will
not
interrupt
events
that
we
have
when
I'll
start.
Looking
at
the
events
that
we
have
at
our
facilities,
in
addition
to
the
one,
the
ones
that
we
produce,
the
Kentucky
State
Fair,
North,
American,
Livestock,
Expo
and
the
farm
machinery
show
by
the
way.
I
Last
week
we
had
well
over
300
000
people
in
four
days
at
the
national
farm
machinery
show
we
believe
we're
still
getting
the
numbers
together
that
we
have
set
some
records
for
that
for
this
year.
It's
amazing
that
coming
back
from
covid,
where
we're
at,
but
it's
it's
a
big
economic
boost
for
the
Commonwealth
and
for
the
Jefferson
County
area,
but
the
events
that
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
have
there,
some
of
you
I'm
sure,
have
been
some
of
those
utility
Expo
gie,
the
Street
Rods.
I
The
track
of
the
truck
shows
those
are
the
ones
that
we
took
and
we
did
a
layout
of
all
of
our
property.
We
have
about
450
to
500
Acres
on
the
property.
You
have
23
000
parking
spots,
but
we
are
one
of
the
few
facilities
where
we
utilize
those
outdoor
for
some
of
our
biggest
trade
shows.
So
we
have
to
do
an
overlay
of
each
of
those
shows.
I
This
last
year,
and
for
the
past
few
years,
we've
also
been
fortunate
to
have
the
Danny
Wimber
presents
there
at
a
Kentucky,
State
Fairgrounds
on
our
Festival
grounds.
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know
those
last
year
and
the
year
before
were
the
largest
music
festivals
in
North
America
that
were
held
on
our
property.
I
That's
some
new
business
that
came
around
in
about
2017-18
that
we
that
was
able
to
bring
in
or
to
keep,
because
there
were
some
issues
in
other
areas
that
we
get
we're
able
to
get
it
out
to
the
fairgrounds
and
make
sure
that
that
stayed
in
the
Jefferson
County
area
and
that's
a
pretty
big
economic
driver
for
for
that
yo.
I
What
we
the
when
we're
doing
our
analysis,
we
we
look
at
how
many
square
feet
do
we
need,
and
one
of
the
big
things
that
we've
noticed
in
our
Consultants
have
told
us
is
a
lot
of
what
trade
shows
and
conventions
they're
looking
for
contiguous
square
footage,
so
everything
all
together.
So
right
now
we
have
about
497
000
square
feet
of
contiguous
footage
square
footage.
I
If
you
look
at
that
South
wing
and
add
in
North
North
wing
and
East
Hall
to
be
that
puts
us,
oh
about
middle
of
the
pack
of
places
in
the
United
States,
with
a
plan
that
that
has
been
presented
to
you
for
all
three
phases.
I
We
would
be
number
two
in
the
nation
in
contiguous
square
footage,
giving
us
about
1.1
million
square
feet
of
contiguous
space
that
can
be
used,
even
if
we
all,
even
if
we
only
do
phase
one
and
which
we
have
taken
each
phase
and
they
are,
can
be
totally
independent
of
each
other
and
still
have
a
very
good
operating
facility.
Even
if
we
only
do
phase
one,
we
will
still
be
in
the
top
six
in
the
United
States.
As
far
as
contiguous
we'd
have
about
771
000
square
feet.
I
When
we
do
that
yeah,
we
look
at
what
what
our
event
people
want.
You
know
one
of
the
big
things
is
hotel
rooms
and
if
we
look
within
a
mile
radius
of
the
Kentucky
State
Fairgrounds,
we
have
about
2500
hotel
rooms.
If
we
go
down
and
pick
up
downtown
area,
there's
over
6
000
of
that
are
available.
I
So
we
there's
always
going
to
be
a
continued
need
for
for
more
development
and
more
hotels.
I
We
we
broke
out
in
our
study
the
different
areas
that
we
think
that
we
need
to
focus
upon
and
that
again
that's
highlighted
within
the
materials
that
you
have.
One
is
our
core.
What
I'll
say
is
our
Core
Business
is
the
livestock
and
equestrian
events
we
actually
surveyed
each
one
of
these
industries
to
say
what
do
you
want?
What
do
you
need,
and
would
you
be
interested
in
coming
to
Louisville
Kentucky,
and
what
we
found
out
is
there's
a
more
than
moderately
strong
interest
in
bringing
in
more
livestock
and
equestrian
events
into
Kentucky.
I
If
we
have
those
facilities
that
are
going
to
compete
with
a
Denver
who
Denver
is
committed
to
about
1.1
billion
dollar
renovation,
there
Kansas
City
is
looking
for
renovations,
Columbus,
Ohio,
State,
Fair
I
know
is
in
a
planning
stages
right
now
for
for
those
kind
of
events,
so
we
know-
and
we've
been
able
to
do
those
surveys
that
there
is
a
need
and
a
warrant
that
we
can
expand.
The
events
that
we
have
there
at
the
State
Fair
our
State
Fair
Grounds.
I
But
what
do
we
have
to
do?
We
have
to
develop
the
property
smartly.
We
have
to
have
other
P3
opportunities
around
the
property
to
provide
restaurants
and
other
activities.
We
were
so
fortunate
to
have
Kentucky
Kingdom
there,
which
is
unique
to
to
our
facility
for
sporting
events,
especially
bringing
in
the
youth.
The
youth
events,
really
the
only
other
one
is
Orange
County.
That
has
something
similar
when
you
figure
the
ESPN,
Zone
and
Disney.
Now
we
we
have
the
facilities
there
with
Kentucky
Kingdom
and
with
new
management.
I
I
The
designs
that
you
have
the
concepts
that
you
have
before
you
would
would
increase
our
meeting
space
significantly
when
people
come
in
for
trade
shows,
they
also
want
to
bring
in
different
companies
to
bring
in
their
customers
and
have
seminars,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
just
recently
at
the
farm
machinery
show.
The
third
thing
that
you
see-
that's
probably
the
biggest
change
to
the
property
is
the
sports
side.
I
We've
been
very
lucky
on
Youth
Sports
and
working
with
the
Louisville
sports
commission
and
bringing
in
some
pretty
large
events,
basically
volleyball
basketball.
Some
of
you
may
not
know
we
have
the
largest
girls
basketball
tournament
in
the
United
States.
It
happens
in
July,
we'll
have
about
16
000
participants
in
that
we'll
have
900
college
coaches
that
come
to
that
event.
We
know
that
they
that
there's
expansion
possibilities
we
have
80
courts
set
up
going
at
once
with
it
in
the
South
wing
through
our
surveys
that
our
Consultants
did
they.
They
have
identified
that.
I
That
is
an
area
that
we
can
expand.
We
also
do
archery
indoors.
We
do
wrestling
and
we
have
USA
Gymnastics.
That's
just
getting
ready
to
be
there
this
next
month.
So
there's
a
lot
of
expansion,
but
the
bigger
expansion
is
flat.
Fields
is
going
outside
on
part
of
our
property
and
building
flat
fields
for
soccer
and
lacrosse
field
hockey,
and
that
is
something
that
would
help
us
fill
in
and
we
to
one
of
the
better
things
about
that
is.
That
is
a
great
P3
opportunity.
I
We've
had
there's
been
preliminary
interest
by
many
different
parties
about
entering
into
a
P3
arrangement
for
that
and
it's
something
that
we
believe
that
will
drive
more
business
to
our
property
and
of
those
days
that
are
off
our
weekends.
That
are
off
that
we
don't
have
as
much
that
we
can
fill
up
for
those
we're
proposing
that
we
would
have
12
full-size
fields
which
will
then
actually
convert
into
24
youth
fields
and
we've
done
the
market.
I
Studies
on
that
also
and
again,
you'll
see
in
the
study
that
there's
moderately
strong
interest
in
doing
that,
and
it's
the
right
size.
What
what
does
this
do
to
us?
Well,
it
any
all
of
the
expansion
that
we're
doing
we're.
We
will
eat
up
some
of
our
parking
if
the
worst
case
scenario
is
that
we'll
eat
up
about
3
700
Square,
3
700
parking
spots
from
one
of
our
events.
I
We
have
additional
properties
on
the
other
side
of
Phillips
Lane
that
is
used
for
the
festival,
grounds
where
the
Danny
Wimmer
Louder
Than
Life
in
Bourbon
and
Beyond.
We
believe
we
can
utilize
those
better,
and
you
will
see
in
the
plan
here
that
we've
allocated
funds
to
put
a
tunnel
under
Phillips
Lane
for
tram
and
pedestrian
traffic,
that
we
could
use
those
grounds
over
there
for
potentially
more
parking
and
for
other
facilities.
So
people
are
not
having
to
walk
across
Phillips
Lane
or
that
we
don't
have
to
shut
it
down
during
the
Kentucky
State
Fair.
I
So
that's
and
the
the
other
we
have
been
in
touch
with
our
partners
being
with
Churchill
Downs
University
of
Louisville
have
had
discussions
with
them.
We
are
one
of
the
few
centers
in
the
United
States
that
do
not
have
that.
We
don't
utilize
off-site
parking
and
for
our
big
big
events.
We
believe
that
there
are
some
Partnerships
that
can
be
had
with
uofl
and
Churchill
to
do
off-site
parking
and
shuttle
services
for
that.
But
parking
is
always
an
issue
for
us.
I
Our
first
phase
that
for
this
for
the
180
million
dollars
that
that
we
was
appropriated
in
the
last
budget,
you'll
see
that
that
is
included
in
your
packet.
That
will
get
us
322
000
additional
square
feet.
So
some
of
it
is
for.
I
Space
that
we
need
to
relocate
our
maintenance
department,
some
of
it,
is
for
additional
trade
show
it
will
increase
our
trade
show
footprint
by
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
square
feet,
and
the
other
is
for
a
new
kitchen
facilities.
If
you
look
at
the
kitchen
facilities
that
we
need,
when
we
have
that
many
people
on
the
grounds
is,
it
is
a
significant
significant
issue.
You'll
see
that
our
budget,
for
that
is,
for
the
first
phase,
is
185
million
dollars.
We
do
have
some
contingencies
built
into
that.
We
feel
pretty.
I
We
feel
really
good
about
those
numbers,
because
we
used
a
company
called
populus
to
to
get
our
Concepts
populous
is
the
one
of
the
largest
engineering
architectural
firms
that
specializes
in
livestock
and
equestrian
facilities
and
multi-purpose
facilities.
They've
got
the
experience
they've
sort
of
they
know
where,
where
those
are,
where
the
cost
costs
will
come
out,
you'll
also
see
that
we
go
through
phase
two
and
phase
three
in
our
master
plan.
I
The
phase
two
is
about
is
another
200
million
dollars
phase
three
is
another
two,
a
little
over
200
million
one
of
the
big
things
that
we
want
to
do
in
Phase,
One
and
phase.
Two
is:
if
you're
coming
down
Interstate
65,
you
see
the
rear
end
of
our
property,
it's
one
of
the
largest.
You
know
the
I-65
is
one
of
the
busiest
interstates
in
the
United
States
and
you
see
the
rear
end
of
our
property,
and
why
is
that?
I
It's
because
in
1956
I-65
wasn't
there,
and
so
here
what
this
plan
will
do
and
what
you
will
see
in
our
proposal
is.
We
will
re-wrap
the
back
side
of
our
property
and
it
will
start
beginning.
Looking
like
the
a
front
side,
it'll
be
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
it'll
help
draw
people
in
when
they
see
see
that
and
they're
traveling
on
I-65
it'll
be
a.
It
will
actually
absolutely
be
great
advertisement
to
bring
people
into
our
facilities
so.
I
Absolutely
last
thing:
I'll
touch
on
is
the
P3
opportunities
we've
had
several
discussions.
Those
are
covered.
Part
of
a
part
of
your
Miss
mandate
to
us
was
that
we
needed
to
identify
50
of
P3
opportunities
of
180
million
you'll,
see
that
we've
identified
those
number
one
is
the
the
flat
Fields.
That's
about
a
30
million
dollar
P3
investment,
our
partnered
next
door,
the
Crown
Plaza,
which
is
on
our
property
that
is
owned
by
the
Kentucky
state,
fair
board
and
the
Commonwealth.
I
There
are,
we
believe
and
feel
pretty
confident
that
in
the
first
phase
of
construction,
that
there
are
some
prep
P3
opportunities
with
our
Mechanicals
and
our
lighting,
that
will
be
between
10
and
20
million
dollars
and
probably
the
biggest
one
that
we've
know
that
there's
a
significant
interest
is
in
a
hotel
facility
actually
on
our
property.
I
For
many
many
years,
we've
talked
about
a
600
room
Hotel
and
all
the
market
studies
come
back
and
so
you're
not
ready
for
a
600
room
Hotel.
So
we've
tried
to
become
realistic
and
we
believe
that
that
number
and
the
people
that
are
in
that
business
tell
us
the
new.
The
number
is
three
to
four
hundred
rooms
with
expansion
possibilities.
That's
a
90
million
dollar
build
just
by
itself.
So
at
this
point,
Dr
Lynn,
Mr,
Beck
and
I
are
available
for
any
questions.
You
have
we're
happy
to
answer
them.
A
Good
deal
so
just
real
briefly:
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
finance
side
of
it.
This
is
a
a
great
plan.
It's
detailed
I
appreciate
the
phasing,
but,
of
course
the
money
appropriated
gets
us
through
phase
one
right
and
then
you
get
into
your
P3
stuff.
Now,
when
you
talk
about
I'm,
sorry,
I
have
a
twofold
question:
when
you
get
into
the
P3,
are
you
assuming
some
kind
of
a
an
upfront
payment
for
a
30-year
lease
on
the
ground,
or
is
this
extended
out
over
time?
A
H
Part
of
the
solution
on
the
P3,
it
was
really
hard
to
come
up
with,
because
until
we
knew
we
had
phase
one
going,
it's
it's
tough
to
confirm
with
any
developers
exactly
how
you're
going
to
do
your
P3
on
phase
two.
The
goal
was
to
try
to
get
enough.
We
could
do
part
of
phase
one
phase
two
at
the
same
time,
in
other
words,
try
to
get
the
flat
Fields
going
as
soon
as
we
can.
H
It's
the
easiest
construction
easiest
build
most
likely
to
turn
operating
Revenue
as
fast
as
possible,
so
the
operating
Revenue
coming
from
the
fields
we
feel
out
of
the
52
weeks
a
year.
The
flat
Fields
will
be
used
at
least
30
to
36
weeks
of
those.
That
is
a
huge
impact
upon
not
just
our
our
area
and
what's
going
to
be
going
on,
but
with
the
kingdom
the
hotels,
the
whole
area
will
benefit
from
it.
H
So
we're
hoping
to
draw
some
of
the
money
from
that
utilization,
but
as
we
have
to
do
this
and
and
how
it
becomes
to
light,
we
to
tell
you
that
it's
definitely
Pace,
that's
not
where
we're
still
working
with
we're.
Talking
to
a
lot
of
people,
we
also
believe
that
as
the
flat
fields
and
the
P3
becomes
easy
with
those
that's
where
the
restaurants
other
buildings,
other
businesses
are
going
to
pop
up
all
around
in
the
plan.
H
As
you
see
and
I,
don't
remember
the
acreage
off
top
my
head,
but
in
the
middle
of
the
flat
fields
we
left
room
for
that
type
of
development
to
be
done
and
that'll
all
be
P3
inside
the
flat
field,
so
restaurants
retail
sales.
What
what
other
things
that
can
be
done?
Those
can
all
pop
up.
At
the
same
time,
that's
all
immediate
revenue.
I
Is
there
a
guy
one
of
the
things
too?
Is
it's
our
cost
savings
that
we'll
be
able
to
to
have
immediately
once
we
get
phase
one
done,
for
instance,
you
wouldn't
think
of
it,
but
tar
paper
when
we
put
tar
paper
down
for
the
livestock
that
they
have
to
walk
on,
so
they
don't
slip
that
number
these
days
when
you
figure
buying
it
getting
it
down.
The
labor
and
disposing
of
it
is
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
for
us.
So
we
get
something
that
has
a
floor.
I
B
I
A
So
let's
do
this
once
we've
got
a
few
more
questions
to
get
through
and
I
want
to
get
to
them,
but
over
the
next
nine
months,
or
so,
let's
start
building
out
how
those
inflows
outflows
work.
So
we
see
how
far
we
get
into
what
point
from
phase
one
to
three,
we
begin
to
see
a
gap,
all
right,
senior,
Gibbons.
J
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
a
great
presentation,
I
had
a
chance
to
sit
down
in
December
when
this
packet
landed
on
my
desk
and
spent
a
bit
of
time
with
it,
and
it's
very
very
well
done
so.
Compliments
to
you
on
the
on
the
presentation,
one
of
the
questions
I
had
from
that
December
look
through
the
packet,
and
you
touched
on
it
briefly,
but
I
want
you
to
go
back
to
it
and
speak
to
it
again,
because
it's
very
important
I
see
the
opportunities
and
excitement
and
energy
around
the
sports
side.
J
I
Well,
first
of
all,
we've
we've
been
both
and
for
the
history
of
our
the
recent
history
of
the
of
our
Fairgrounds,
but
I
will
tell
you
number
one
priority
for
this
new
facility
is
livestock
and
equestrian.
They
will
have
first.
That
is
the
first
priority.
We
we
deal
with
it
now.
You
know
Senator
Givens.
On
any
one
weekend,
we
will
have
up
to
three
events
going
at
once.
There.
I
Six
I'm
told,
and
so
we
believe
that
we
have
enough
space
there
to
accommodate
all
of
those,
but
the
other
thing
that's
going
to
happen.
This
is
a
concept
plan
that
we're
working
with
once
we
get
through
this
process.
We
are
going
to
get
our
equestrian
friends
with
Asha
and
livestock,
and
we're
going
to
have
some
very
good
study
committees
meeting
with
us
that
are
Architects
at
that
point,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
satisfying
all
those
important
portions,
great.
J
One
quick
follow-up,
Mr
chairman
also-
and
this
was
one
of
those
I-
had
to
smile
moments
when
I
was
looking
through
the
packet
in
December
and
I'm,
so
glad
to
have
the
chance
to
ask
you
publicly
about
this
page
54
the
boring
tunnel
concept.
This
is
Innovative
exciting.
It
may
be
a
little
too
futuristic,
but
briefly
speak
to
it,
because
I'm
intrigued.
K
K
So
we
can
get
the
people
between
the
two
properties
I've
been
in
Louisville
for
a
number
of
years
and
the
light
rail
has
been
discussed
since
I've
been
there
and
they
see
if
we
started
tomorrow
be
eight
to
ten
years
three
and
a
half
billion
dollars.
This
is
doable
in
less
than
24
months
and
about
240
to
250
million
dollars.
So
it
would
be
a
way
we've
had
conversations
with
the
airport,
Churchill,
Downs
and
uofl
and
others
about
how
we
could
help
use
that
situation,
but
we're
not
looking
for
the
state
to
pay
for
that.
K
That
would
be
another
P3
opportunity
to
be
managed
and
built,
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
it
may
not
be
the
solution,
but
it
talks
about
how
important
transportation
is.
We
talk
about
direct
flights
into
Louisville,
but
how
do
we
move
people
around
a
little
bit?
How
do
we
do
that
and
there's
more
one
company
interested
in
that,
so
they
get
your
pencil
sharp
to
cause
us
to
think
about
the
future?
What
can
we
do
to
fully
utilize
both
downtown
those
hotels
as
well
as
restaurants
and
hotels
and
others.
L
Thank
you
for
this
amazing
presentation.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
this,
but
having
just
spent
a
long
weekend
with
over
100
volleyball
teams
in
Indianapolis,
Indiana
I
love
the
idea
that
we
can
bring
this
to
Kentucky.
But
I
do
like
the
thoughts
that
you're
sharing
and
I
I'm,
not
quite
sure,
where
I'm,
seeing
the
difference
between
the
government
running
a
hotel
and
a
private
interest
running
a
hotel,
and
we
can
talk
about
that
more
online.
I
Sure
thank
you
Senator,
and
we
already
have
that
on
our
on
our
property
right
now:
the
Courtyard
Marriott
and
the
Crowne
Plaza
and
the
Hilton
Garden
Inn,
or
on
our
property
long-term
leases.
We
get
lease
payments,
and
so
that's
it
would
be
that
kind
of
a
of
a
arrangement.
A
All
right
very
well,
gentlemen,
you've
plowed
through
all
the
questions
that
we
have
up
here:
oh
I'm,
sorry,
Senator,
Boswell
last
word:.
F
Yet
I
just
had
a
general
question
regarding
Revenue
with
the
expansion
that
you're
having
it
obviously
is
going
to
going
to
create
additional
Revenue
sources
for
different
people,
and
my
question
is:
who
received
Who
currently
receives
occupational
net
profit
taxes
for
the
entire
operation.
I
As
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
we
are
exempt
yeah.
The
state
Kentucky
state,
fair
by
Statute
Kentucky
state
fair
board,
is
exempt
what
what
we
are
generating
is
about.
69
of
all
Hotel
taxes
are
attributable
to
our
property
for
in
the
city
of
Louisville.
I
A
You
all
right
very
well
once
again
would
love
to
talk
kind
of
through
the
the
flow
of
Finance
over
the
next
decade
or
so
see
what
we
think
we're
looking
at
in
all
this
or,
if
you
think,
it's
a
shorter
time
that
but
a
wonderful
presentation,
very
thorough
and
I
appreciate
your
attendance
today,
gentlemen,.
H
A
You
all
right
at
this
time
we
will
have
up
the
department
of
parks
for
your
proposal
for
capital
projects
as
well.
So
if
you
guys
would
please
come
to
the
table,
identify
yourselves
for
the
record
and
proceed.
M
M
Every
Resort
Park
and
many
Rec
Parks
across
the
state,
operate
much
like
small
towns
throughout
Kentucky.
They
have
many
of
the
same
Utility
Systems
and
maintenance
requirements.
They
complement
approximately
55
counties
in
multiple
cities
throughout
the
Commonwealth,
providing
jobs
and
unique
opportunities
for
our
guests.
M
Our
state
parks
not
only
serve
as
a
popular
tourist
attraction
but
have
been
instrumental
in
the
state's
emergency
response
efforts
as
part
of
those
efforts.
Governor
Brashear
mobilized,
a
total
of
11
state
parks
as
a
community
resource
providing
emergency
shelter
and
food
services
for
displaced
families
and
First
Responders
in
Western
Kentucky.
Our
Parks
provided
temporary
housing
to
more
than
800
individuals
and
250
First
Responders
over
360
citizens
in
Eastern
Kentucky
that
were
impacted
by
the
flooding
were
also
temporarily
housed
at
the
state
parks.
N
Thank
you
secretary
and
chair
McDaniel,
chair
Petrie,
Senators
Representatives.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
for
considering
Us
in
house
bill,
one
for
the
150
million
proposed
today.
N
It's
been
a
long
year,
and
we
appreciate
you
all's
time
also
for
giving
us
Insight
on
on
the
bill,
how
we
proceed
with
our
proposal
and
how
we
can
better
Kentucky
state
parks
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
in
this
first
Deputy
Commissioner,
Ron
vanover,
who
I
just
want
to
say
we're
extremely
proud
to
have
as
Deputy
Commissioner
and
on
our
team
Ron
has
been
with,
is
a
lifer
in
Parks.
N
As
you
know,
what
we're
here
to
propose
today
is
is
not
not
new.
These
are
are
things
and
issues
that
have
been
in
our
Capital
projects
list
for
for
our
six-year
plan.
For
for
many
years,
The
Proposal
we
have
together.
Today
it
was
put
together
by
our
team
I'm,
proud
of
our
team.
We
have
in
Kentucky
state
parks
and
the
tourism
cabinet
they're
all
with
us
here
today,
and
several
of
them
could
not
make
it
today,
they're
at
the
Park
managers
conference.
N
That's
going
on
and
finishing
up
today
at
Barron
River
Lake
our
plan.
We
took
a
long
look
at
this
plan
and
how
we
put
it
together
to
spend
this
money
and
and
propose
it
wisely
efficiently
through
infrastructure
needs
return
on
investment,
which
includes
not
only
Revenue
but
quality
of
life
issues
throughout
Kentucky
state
parks.
With
that
said,
I'm
going
to
have
commissioner
van
over
start
us
off
with
the
presentation
in
the
slideshow.
C
C
C
Those
things
are
still
with
me
today:
the
fiddle
the
place
where
the
revenue
of
the
monies
he
made
Etc,
it's
something
very
warming
to
me.
At
the
same
time,
in
the
early
1920s,
this
gentleman
Dr
Willard
Gilson,
was
hired
by
the
legislature
to
go
out
and
find
parks
that
were
worthy
of
State
custodianship.
He
went
East
and
West
and
north
and
south
he
was
a
geologist
and
you'll
see
he
always
carried
his
pick
with
him.
He
wanted
to
pick
at
Kentucky
state
parks
to
make
a
jewel,
so
he
was
over
in
the
Elkton
region.
C
Going
to
add
just
a
little
bit
to
this
I
know
we're
on
times
constraints,
but
he
said
mere
words
can
never
adequately
describe
the
many
point:
natural
points
of
Beauty
in
Kentucky,
the
best
of
photographs,
while
better
than
prose
Falls,
far
short
of
doing
Justice
to
the
imminental
sculpturing
of
wind
and
wave
and
Frost,
and
nothing
even
the
inspired
hand
of
Genius
spotting
in
the
rainbow
colors
of
the
landscape
approaches
the
realistic
here's.
What
I
want
to
mention
here
are
the
Natural
Parks
awaiting
state
custodianship.
C
Our
mission
really
hasn't
changed
over
the
Hundred
Years,
we're
still
providing
a
sustainable
system
of
parks.
We
try
to
deliver
quality
programs
and
amenities,
and
her
goal
is
to
create
those
memorable
experiences
and
a
sense
of
place,
but
at
the
same
time
preserve
our
Parks
historic
and
natural
integrity
and
traditions
for
existing
and
future
Generations
under
the
leadership
of
our
cabinet.
C
Our
vision
for
Kentucky
spark
system
is
to
build
these
public
and
private
Partnerships
to
ensure
that
state
parks
bring
both
recreational
and
economic
value
to
the
communities
throughout
the
Commonwealth.
We
do
want
to
pursue
funding
opportunities
and
continue
to
address
the
continuous
maintenance
needs
at
each
Park,
our
Park
staff.
They
work
to
protect
and
conserve
Kentucky's
natural
resources
and
to
be
responsible
stewards
of
what
we
call
the
nation's
finest.
C
C
C
C
We
rank
in
the
top
five
of
the
nation
for
Revenue
production
Parks
also
employs
full-time
Rangers
who
serve
as
the
Park's
official
law
enforcement
agency
with
the
bipartisan
investment
in
Kentucky.
State
parks
is
not
only
critical,
but
it's
timely
for
ensuring
our
Parks
can
remain
competitive
in
the
tourism
and
hospitality
industries.
C
Sorry,
if
you
look
at
the
map
here
today,
this
is
in
your
proposal
as
well,
and
we
wanted
to
bring
this
to
your
attention,
because
the
gray
spots
that
you
see
are
representing
a
lot.
They
represent
55
counties
in
multiple
cities
throughout
this
Commonwealth,
providing
many
jobs
and
offering
opportunities
for
many
guests
see
if
you
can
find
your
spot
here,
it's
often
been
said
that
each
Kentuckian
lives
within
an
hour
also
make
note
of
the
two
red
marks.
That's
the
Dawkins
line,
the
Pine
Mountain
Trail.
C
N
Thank
you,
commissioner,
and
I'll
continue
on
with
our
plan
for
the
150
million
investment
section,
6
22rs,
House,
Bill,
1,
state
parks,
Improvement
reads:
the
general
assembly
recognizes
the
need
to
secure
the
future
of
Kentucky
state
parks
for
generations
to
come
to
address
this
need
the
project
authorization
set
out
in
part
two
capital
projects.
Budget
of
this
act
is
contingent
on
the
department
of
parks,
submission
and
approval
by
the
general
assembly
of
a
comprehensive
Statewide
proposal.
N
As
you
can
see,
improvements
to
customer
experiences,
90
million
physical
plant
needs
improvements.
60
million
based
on
the
guidelines
from
House
Bill
1
Kentucky
state
parks
created
a
robust
plan
to
tackle
needed
upgrades
and
improvements.
Those
improvements
are
as
follows,
and
you
can
see
with
our
proposal
here:
Campground
upgrades
broadband
and
Wi-Fi
upgrades
accommodations,
upgrades,
recreational
amenities,
Building
Systems
improvements
and
utility
improvements.
N
According
to
the
KOA
22
North
American
camping
report
camping
nationally
increased
12
percent
or
11.5
million
households
between
2019
and
2021,
from
82.3
million
to
93.8
million,
seven
out
of
10
households
have
stated
that
they
will
most
likely
participate
in
camping
or
glamping
as
a
Leisure
activity.
When
determining
their
travel
plans.
N
Today's
camper
is
22
percent,
African-American,
54,
Millennials
and
25
percent,
with
an
annual
income
of
one
hundred
thousand
plus
50
percent
of
new
campers
want
to
glamp
in
camper
cabins
or
Yurts.
57
percent
of
campers
want
to
try.
Rv
camping
campers
are
becoming
more
adventurous,
but
still
prefer.
The
Wi-Fi
accessibility
to
note
camping
is
the
most
profitable
Revenue
generator
in
the
Kentucky
State
Park
system
and
the
lack
of
upgraded
amenities
is
holding
state
parks
back
on
rates
and
occupancy
that
could
be
achieved
in
order
for
Kentucky
State
Park
campgrounds
to
stay
relevant.
N
Work
it
yes,
sir
Kentucky
state
parks
estimate
an
investment
of
40
million,
which
will
upgrade
approximately
750
campsites
or
37
percent
of
the
improved
inventory
renovate
add
bath
houses,
add
camper
cabins.
The
estimated
cost
to
upgrade
one
campsite
based
on
the
most
recent
improvements
is
approximately
twenty
thousand
Kentucky
state
parks
anticipates
adding
100
primitive
camper
cabins
in
various
campgrounds,
at
a
cost
of
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
N
Each
the
infrastructure
upgrades
electric
sewer
water
lines
and
bath
house
renovations
costs
will
vary
from
park
to
park,
but
is
estimated
at
21
million
after
the
upgrades
and
improvements
are
completed.
The
projected
Roi
are
as
follows:
increase
per
night
after
Improvement
six
dollars
per
night
or
18
percent
increase
in
rate
five
percent.
Every
two
years,
Campground
Revenue
will
exceed
9
million
annually.
N
Additional
amenities,
such
as
camper
cabins
and
Yurts,
will
increase
Parks
Roi
that
will
exceed
sixty
dollars
per
night,
increasing
our
average
rate
per
night.
The
benefit
to
our
guests
will
allow
for
longer
stays
opportunities
to
enjoy
the
various
recreational
and
naturalist
offerings
within
our
state
parks
and
to
provide
an
overall,
better
guest
experience.
Commissioner,.
C
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
shorten
this
for
you
as
your
request.
If
you
look
at
broadband
and
Wi-Fi
upgrades
those
all
are
in
your
proposal,
we
feel
very
confident
in
what
we're
doing
we
spent
4.2
million
from
the
219
refreshing,
the
finest
we
continue
to
concentrate
on
many
of
our
Parks,
our
Resorts
all
have
Wi-Fi
or
Broadband,
except
one,
and
we
are
working
on
that
as
we
speak.
But
the
information
here
that
you're
seeing
is
also
showing
in
your
proposal
that
we
submitted.
N
With
accommodations,
as
you
can
see,
our
number
of
Lodge
rooms,
890
number
of
cottages
316,
our
22
annual
budget,
19.3
million
average
daily
rate
106.
N
C
We
don't
think
we
know
it
will
be
These
funds
again
are
not
a
part
of
the
vision
with
the
150,
but
it's
a
part
of
our
vision
moving
forward
and
if
you
look
medallion's
partnered
with
Hilton
and
Marriott,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
in
closing,
with
a
commitment
to
the
Kentucky
State
Park's
mission
statement,
it's
evident
that
the
need
is
there
over
the
years
through
the
identification
evaluations
of
buildings.
It's
obvious.
The
physical
deterioration
is
showing
from
age.
C
E
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman,
very
briefly,
I
suspect,
probably
capital
projects,
Capital
planning
somebody's
got
a
detailed
list
of
your
your
proposals.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
could
get
a
copy
of
that
and
I
was
wondering
if
it
was
in
a
prioritized
list.
E
G
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
commissioner
mayor.
We
miss
you
up
here.
Russ
I
am
able
to
have
conversations
with
Russ
on
a
regular
basis
and
I'm
greatly
appreciative.
I
do
have
a
question
concerning
our
parks
there
in
West
Kentucky
the
two
that
are
closest
to
me,
both
Pennyrile
and
Lake
Barclay
there
to
Lodge.
Do
we
still
have
any
residents
there
that,
from
from
the
tornadoes
of
a
year
ago,.
G
Another
question
please,
as
far
as
those
properties
right
there:
how
are
we
on
those
those
cabins
that
and
individuals
had
lived
in
as
far
as
repairs,
I
know,
and
there
was
some
issues
there
with
damage?
How
are
we
coming
with
those
or
do
we
have
an
idea?
Well.
N
As
you
know,
we
had
the
fire
and
then
it
wasn't.
It
was
within
weeks
that
the
tornado
came
and
hit.
So
we
had,
you
know
a
lot
going
on
at
Lake
Barkley,
not
only
with
that
and
coming
coming
out
of
the
tornado.
You
know
housing
the
displaced
families,
but
the
structural
needs
and
aging
of
Lake
Barkley.
N
You
know
those
are
those
are
needs
that
that
this
150
million
cannot
address
everything
in
in
within
that
Park,
which,
as
Commissioners
said,
that's
that's
a
city
down
there,
Chuck
Buckley
it
it's
got.
Some
ongoing
needs
that
that
we'll
have
to
discuss
at
later
times,
but
you
know
with
with,
what's
going
on
there
and
the
in
the
process
of
of
getting
that
those
rooms,
those
Cottages
back
up
today,
we're
continually
working
on
that
and
that's
that
is
a
work
in
progress.
N
There
was
damage
not
only
from
the
fire
but
from
the
use.
As
you
know,
our
Parks
were
not
built,
for
you
know:
housing
full-time,
you
know
housing
which,
which
we
did,
and
we
were
grateful
to
to
have
the
opportunity
and
I
know
your
communities
were
grateful
that
we,
we
supplied
that
and
the
Commonwealth
was
able
to
step
up
and
and
help.
O
Questions
here,
real,
quick
thinking
of
Upchurch,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Russ
I
want
to
talk
to
you
just
a
little
bit
about
Burnside
Island.
It's
a
dream.
Big
Burnside
and
I
know
that
you've
recently,
the
department
has
recently
issued
a
RFP
for
Burnside
and
I
know.
We've
talked
back
I
think
in
August
of
last
year
about
you
know
the
potential
for
Burnside
Island.
O
So
you
know,
Lake
Cumberland
draws
more
visitors
annually
than
the
Grand
Canyon
and
the
vision
locally
I'm,
not
sure
matches
up
with
the
vision
with
the
Departments
I'd
like
for
you
to
address
that,
and
if
you
think
this,
the
RFP
kind
of
matches
up
with
what
dream
big
burnside's
vision
is
with
Burnside
Island,
because
we've
heard
talk
about
this
island
for
years
about
the
potential
for
you
know,
making
it
a
destination
Resort,
possibly
with
a
hotel
or
cabins
restaurant,
to
really
grow,
not
only
that
island
and
its
potential
with
all
those
visitors
coming
to
Lake
Cumberland.
O
But
you
know
help
this.
You
know
the
city
of
Burnside
and
and
its
Endeavors
to
make
Burnside
Island
that
destination
Resort
and
that's
the
reason
the
mayor
Lawson
created
along
with
speed,
if
you
remember
Chris,
Gardner
former
state
senator
here
with
you,
know,
dream
big
Burnside,
so
I
was
trying
to
get
your
thoughts
on
you
know.
Does
the
Department's
Vision
parallel
with
dream,
big
burnside's
vision
for
that,
and
if
not,
why
not?
Let.
N
Us
out,
I
certainly
will
because
I
I
believe
we
have
to
with
an
RFP
out
and
and
on
the
street.
It
comes
due
for
responses
on
the
27th
after
the
27th
of
this
month.
You
know
I,
believe
we'll
be
able
to
sit
down
and
have
questions
and
and
have
dialogue
on
that.
H
N
A
J
But
representative
Upchurch
I
think
you
touched
on
a
point
that
is
is
quite
interesting
to
me
because
it
ties
in
to
some
of
what
you
read,
commissioner.
Out
of
the
budget
Bill
the
budget
languages
I
read
at
the
general
assembly,
recognizes
the
need
to
secure
the
future
Kentucky
state
parks
for
generations
to
come
to
address
this
need
the
project
authorization
set
out
in
part.
J
Don't
know
that
I've
seen
a
lot
of
talk
about
p3s
number:
four,
you
do
have
a
Broadband
plan.
Some
folks
are
asking
why
the
fixed
Wireless
as
opposed
to
a
wired
plan
but
I,
think
you've.
I
think
you
may
have
checked
number
four,
but
I
didn't
see
good,
solid
checks
in
the
boxes
on
number
one.
Two
and
three
okay.
N
We're
going
to
combo
answer
that,
but
I
can
start
by.
If
you
turn
to
page
nine
of
The
Proposal
that
we
submitted
and
I'm
sure
you
have
that
in
front
of
you,
we
sent
a
letter
out
to
65
Mayors
and
County
judges
across
the
state
to
start
that
dialogue
within
local
governments
of
shared
projects
that
they
might
be
interested
in.
N
N
I
don't
mean
we
can
get
that
new,
but
I've
got
it.
We
can
absolutely
get
you
all
that
that
we've
had
since
this
was
set
out.
It's
not
in
the
proposal,
because
we
sent
this
letter
out
in
November.
This
proposal
was
due
in
December
and
then
Ron.
If
you
want
to
you.