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A
I'm
here
and
senator
storm
just
walked
in
very
good.
Thank
you
committee
members
for
taking
the
time
here
at
lunch
time
to
do
this
committee
meeting
gentlemen
online.
We
have.
We
have
three
individuals,
michael
dossett,
who's,
the
director
of
division
of
emergency
management,
mr
john
hicks,
who's,
the
state
budget
director
and
mr
jim
gray,
who's,
the
transportation
cabinet
secretary,
and
today's
meeting
is
concerning
a
discussion
on
the
disaster
response
to
the
tornadoes
in
western
kentucky
and
as
we're
all
familiar.
A
Today,
we
presented
our
senate
bill
5
to
a
r
today
regarding
financial
disaster
relief
for
that
part
of
the
state
which
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
we
before
we
get
started.
I
just
want
to
make
one
observation:
we
are
the
senate
rules
this
session
are
that
all
of
our
committee
testimony
will
be
in
person.
A
There
was
some
small
disconnects
between
communication
and
coordination,
what
local,
local
responders
and
local
elected
officials
knew
and
how
to
communicate
with
state
and
fema
directors.
So
I
thought
it
would
just
be
good
to
try
to
kind
of
get
us
all
in
one
room,
get
us
all
on
one
page
and
try
to
make
sure
that
state
government
is
communicating
with
our
locals
at
the
very
highest
level
during
this
important
time.
A
So
the
directors
online
actually
have
these
eight
questions
that
are
in
front
of
you
today
on
the
packets,
and
I
would
just
kind
of
open
it
up
for
director
hicks
you're
on
the
screen.
Right
now.
A
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
start
or
not,
but
allow
you
guys
to
kind
of
make
some
opening
statements
and
then,
if
you
could
answer
these
questions
that
you
have
in
front
of
us
and
kind
of
editorialize
on
them,
and
then
we
will
take
some
questions
afterwards
and
if
you
can
hold
your
questions
for
them
until
after
their
presentations
will
have
plenty
of
time
for
questions.
So,
gentlemen,
the
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
john
hicks.
I
appreciate
you
having
us
here
today.
I
tell
you
what
we're
going
to
lead
off
with
director
dosset
and
then
followed
up
with
secretary
gray,
and
then
then
I
will
follow
him.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
I'd
just
like
to
go
over
a
brief
summary
of
the
event.
D
The
event
occurred
on
the
the
the
10th
I've
been
with
the
agency
over
a
decade.
I've
been
in
this
position
over
eight
years
and
in
our
recorded
history,
this
is
the
worst
impact
the
state
of
kentucky
has
ever
suffered.
This
tornado
event
was
categorized
as
an
ef4,
and
it
achieved
winds
of
190
miles
an
hour.
There
are
over
2
000
homes
that
were
damaged
across
multiple
counties.
D
An
estimated
125
000
homes
were
without
power.
That
night.
Thank
you
to
all
of
our
county
elected
officials,
our
emergency
management
and
all
the
emergency
services
groups
that
responded
that
night.
I
can
tell
you
that
I
was
in
the
the
state
eoc
in
the
early
morning
hours
along
with
governor
andy
beshear.
He
engaged
the
counties
that
we
could
contact
our
elected
officials
by
zoom,
getting
up
to
the
minute
reports
on
what
the
damage
was
on
the
11th.
D
That
day,
we
asked
for
and
received
an
emergency
declaration,
and
that
gave
direct
federal
assistance
to
the
major
impact
counties
that
that
that
lost
that
lost
homes
and
certainly
residents
in
those
areas.
On
the
following
day,
we
asked
for
an
expedited
major
declaration
so
where
it
stands
today
is
we
have
16
counties
included
in
individual
assistance.
D
Six
of
those
counties
are
scripted
and
currently
in
the
process
of
receiving
fema
direct
housing
assistance
and
I'll
go
over
the
two
differences
between
direct
housing
assistance
and
state
sponsored
task
force
that
is
working
on
sheltering.
So
the
the
six
counties
that
received
fema
assistance
for
direct
housing
are
warren,
muellenberg,
marshall,
hopkins
graves
and
caldwell.
D
We
have
23
counties
overall
that
are
included
in
public
assistance
for
the
declaration.
So
currently
we
have
a
number
of
still
have
a
number
of
federal
teams
on
the
ground.
Fema
has
in
excess
of
500
personnel
in
theater
across
a
variety
of
counties.
D
D
We
also
have
a
large
continued
contingent
of
american
red
cross
so
with
that
in
response
to
your
questions,
I'll
start
out
with
question
number
one
explaining
the
chain
of
command
so
during
a
state
of
emergency,
the
division
of
emergency
management-
and
specifically,
I
answer
to
the
governor,
the
governor's
office,
and
then
it
is
delegated
through
my
chain
through
two
deputy
directors
down
to
our
area
managers.
We
have
10
area
managers
and
they
are
located
across
across
all
counties
throughout
the
state.
D
In
this
particular
situation,
we
dispatched
a
single
area
manager
to
each
of
the
six
impacted
counties
that
were
hit
the
hardest.
We
established
a
one-to-one
relationship,
so
in
addition
to
a
fema
representative
and
in
most
of
them
an
army
corps,
engineer
representative,
we
have
an
area
manager
they're
in
contact
and
on
the
ground
daily,
with
our
elected
officials
in
the
county
and
with
the
local
em
director,
so
that
has
gone
on
since
the
beginning
of
the
event.
D
Emergency
management
sits
in
command
and
control
over
all
cabinet
responses,
and
we
basically
do
the
response
and
recovery
operations
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
event.
So
our
area
managers
again
overlapped.
The
six
primary
counties-
and
they
continue
to
do
that
type
of
liaison.
D
The
next
question
is
about
communities
with
with
kym
liaison,
and
essentially
we
have
10.
D
Public
assistance
representatives
from
the
division
of
emergency
management
on
the
ground,
with
the
elected
officials
in
these
16
counties
these
these
are
primarily
individual
assistants,
but
they
also
have
they're
also
included
in
the
public
assistance.
So
it's
a
very
sophisticated
operation.
Many
of
our
counties
are,
are
well
versed
in
how
this
works.
Some
of
them
are
not,
and
that's
understandable.
D
D
So
the
next
question
is
when
fema
comes
to
a
large
disaster
with
multiple
cities
and
counties
involved.
What
is
their
presence
on
the
ground?
So
there
are,
I
believe,
10
supervisors
on
the
ground,
between
5
and
10
supervisors
and
again
they're
part
of
the
liaison
team
with
the
elected
official
and
our
local
emergency
management
director.
D
They
have
dsat
teams.
These
are
disaster,
survivor,
assistance
teams.
These
are
the
folks
that
you
have
seen
literally
going
go
door-to-door,
registering
our
survivors
for
fema
assistance.
They
also
have
opened
drcs.
These
are
disaster
registration
centers.
They
also
have
had
mobile
centers.
These
are
called
merricks,
but
the
mobile
centers
take
walk-in
registrations
and
they
rotate
they
they
rotate
locations.
So
overall,
currently
I
believe
fema
has
567
personnel
in
theater.
260
are
dedicated
just
to
disaster,
survivor
assistance
and
then
160
are
dedicated
to
individual
assistance.
D
That's
a
large
contingent.
I
will
tell
you
that,
in
terms
of
other
major
disasters
in
other
cities,
we
are
ahead
of
the
curb
fema
was
very,
very
quick
in
responding.
In
fact,
we
had
some
teams
on
the
ground.
The
leadership
of
the
teams
on
on
the
11th
the
evening
of
11th,
we
asked
for
some
major
assistance
from
usar.
These
are
urban
search
and
rescue
teams
that
are
funded
by
the
federal
government
and
obviously
they
came
to
mayfield
and
worked
on
the
the
candle
factory
collapse.
D
So
again,
it's
important
to
understand
that
we
work
on
a
one-to-one
relationship
and
it's
basically
the
collated
team
of
federal
and
state,
in
liaison
with
our
elected
officials
and
our
our
local
em
managers
in
all
these
counties.
D
So
the
the
question
is:
how
does
the
financial
assistance
flow
from
fema
to
kym?
The
process
is
identical.
The
process
doesn't
change
in
any
way
from
the
previous
disasters
and
obviously
we're
still
working
the
disaster
in
february
for
the
ice
storm
and
in
march
2021
for
the
the
major
flood
this
one
by
far
dwarfs
any
of
the
other
responses,
but
the
protocols
are
basically
the
same.
It
begins
with
an
applicant
agent.
The
county
determines
who
the
applicant
agent
is
many
times
they
use
the
contractor.
D
Sometimes
it's
the
judge
executive
again,
many
of
our
counties
have
gone
through
this
process
quite
a
number
of
times,
so
they
have
that
down.
Pat
and
basically
fema
assigns
a
program
manager
to
each
county
and
to
the
applicant
agent.
D
D
Fema
then
approves
and
obligates
dollars
for
the
project,
and
then
once
the
project
begins,
fema
allocates
funding
that
is
kept
in
a
holding
account
for
each
county
for
each
project.
They
are
currently
writing
projects
that
are
expedited.
Certainly
our
counties,
our
partners
are
incurring
large
expenses
due
to
debris,
removal
and
a
variety
of
other
other
issues.
D
Expedited
projects
can
access
funding
between
30
and
60
days,
fema's
working
diligently
at
this
process
and
we're
certainly
assisting
them
with
with
our
pa
representatives
out
representing
our
county
partners.
This
is
a
a
very
quick
turnaround
in
terms
of
disaster
projects.
Many
times
it's
it.
It
requires
a
number
of
months
to
write
the
project
and
then
funding
is
based
on
completion
of
work.
D
In
this
disaster
event,
many
counties
are
choosing
to
do
expedited
projects
and
we're
certainly
assisting
in
that.
D
So
the
next
question
deals
with
temporary
housing
in
fema
trailers.
It's
important
to
understand
that
there
are
two
pieces
to
this.
This
response.
There
is
the
fema
response
with
travel
trailers
and
they're,
both
predicated
on
the
same
steps.
D
The
response
includes
rental,
housing,
rental
apartments
and
and
the
last
choice
is
travel
trailers.
In
many
of
our
cities,
there
are
no
rental
homes
available.
There
are
no
apartments
available,
so
obviously
the
choice
will
be
to
move
forward
with
travel
trailers.
Now
these
this
is
inclusive
of
the
fema
direct
housing
assistance
process.
D
The
state
has
begun
what
is
called
the
kentucky
disaster.
Housing
task
force-
and
there
are-
there-
are
a
number
of
our
partners
that
are
engaged
in
the
task
force
and
they
include
the
kentucky
transportation
cabinet,
the
kentucky
department
for
the
I'm
sorry,
the
kentucky
department
for
local
government
also
also
two
additional
areas
of
our
cabinet.
The
red
cross
is
a
part
of
that
habitat,
for
humanity
is
a
a
part
of
that.
D
So,
within
this
task
force
with
with
our
county
partners,
including
the
kentucky
housing
corporation,
we're
basically
putting
together
a
number
and
a
series
of
options.
One
of
the
options
in
this
task
force
is
a
sheltering
mission,
and
the
sheltering
mission
for
the
state
will
also
involve
the
three-tiered
process,
rental,
housing,
rental
apartments
and
travel
trailers.
We
are
in
the
process
for
purchasing
our
travel
trailers.
D
We
have
just
recently
received
data
from
fema
that
we'll
be
examining
for
those
that
are
eligible
for
the
sheltering
process
and
again
to
point
out
their
separate
missions.
Fema
is
looking
for
direct
housing.
The
state
is,
is
hosting
a
sheltering
mission,
so
we're
moving
very
quickly
through
that
process.
D
D
D
The
state
of
kentucky
is
only
the
third
state
in
the
country
that
has
been
allowed
to
enter
into
non-congregate
sheltering
as
a
program,
so
that
allows
us
to
purchase
travel
trailers
in
a
non-coveted
environment.
That
option
is
not
available,
so
the
first
state
that
did
that
is
texas.
The
second
one
was
louisiana.
D
We
have
looked
at
both
of
their
programs,
we've
leaned
heavily
on
louisiana
for
lessons
learned
and
how
the
program
works,
so
we're
in
that
process,
and
obviously
construction
and
rebuilding
will
be
part
of
that.
The
major
part
will
be
restoration
of
infrastructure
and
utilities,
and
fema
is
working
toward
making
eligibility
decisions
for
their
individual
assistance.
So
with
that
I'll
I'll
ask
secretary
gray
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that
will
work
in
in
terms
of
the
sheltering
mission.
E
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
director
dawson,
mr
chairman.
If
you'll
indulge
me
just
for
a
moment
to
to
acknowledge
and
thank
director
michael
dossett,
because
his
leadership
has
been
from
the
very
beginning,
as
he
described
from
the
very
night
and
that
early
morning
at
the
eoc
has
been
vigorous
and
has
been
an
admirable
in
every
respect
and
it's
been
a
real
honor
that
the
transportation
cabinet
has
been
able
to
work
with
kentucky
emergency
management
and
the
other
partners
in
this
project.
E
Let
me
dial
back,
like
the
director
did
to
the
night
in
the
morning
of
december,
the
11th
and
tell
you
just
a
bit
of
a
human
interest
stories,
a
couple
of
stories
that
will
illustrate
the
work
of
the
men
and
women
who
were
on
the
ground
that
night
and
the
work
of
the
communities
and
the
cooperation
that
was
experienced.
Denitra
henderson,
is,
as
many
of
you
know,
as
many
of
the
members
know
the
nature.
The
chief,
the
chief
engineer,
the
chief
district
engineer
in
each
of
our
12
districts,
is
the
lead.
E
Demetra
henderson
is
the
lead
in
district
2,
which
is
centered
in
madisonville
and
denitra.
Told
me,
on
the
morning
of
the
11th
that
her
teams
were
out
before
dawn
clearing
the
major
routes,
so
first
responders
could
get
to
the
scene
and
her
teams
were
met
with
community
members
with
farmers
with
their
tractors
and
citizens
with
their
trucks
and
their
chainsaws.
E
I
was
met
by
judge
jack
whitfield.
Many
of
you
know,
judge
whitfield
in
hopkins,
county
and,
and
we
were
in
dawson
springs
where
so
much
so
much
destruction
and
had
occurred
and
standing
there
with
jack
with
judge
whitfield
was
steve,
henry
judge
from
webster
county
and
adam
o'nan
from
union
county,
both
all
of
them
in
their
overalls
and
their
work
boots,
and
so
was
mayor.
Kevin
cotton
from
madisonville
all
working
together
lending
a
hand
in
these
difficult
times.
E
Now
what
we
know
today
about
debris
removal
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
beyond
beyond
just
the
the
housing,
the
housing
issues,
the
temporary
housing
issues.
What
we
know
about
debris,
removal
to
date
is-
and
the
director
has
these
numbers
from
just
yesterday
is
we
have
we
have
debris.
Removal
has
resulted
in
almost
800
000
cubic
yards
of
material
removed,
and
that
represents
roughly
27
percent
of
the
total
u.s
army
corps
of
engineers
estimate.
E
So
so
that
number
is
progressing
steadily.
We've
had
good
progress,
there's
always
room
for
improvement.
We
all
know
that,
but
we've
had
good
and
solid
progress
now
in
terms
of
their
our
temporary,
our
temporary
housing
and
the
director.
As
I
said,
he
knows
this
backwards
and
forwards
and
has
illustrated
that
to
you
all
already,
but
in
terms
of
our
immediate
work
that
we're
doing
through
the
transportation
cabinet's
mission,
if
you
will
has
been
expanded
to
the
temporary
initiative
and
what
that
represents
is.
E
Let
me
give
you
an
example.
So
kyle
pote
is
our
chief
district
engineer
in
in
district,
one
which
includes
graves
county
kyle's
been
working
with
the
fema
representatives
and
with
the
red
cross
representatives
and
has
been
collecting
data
himself
through
his
team
on
the
ground
locally
from
the
schools
and
from
the
school
systems
and
from
the
utility
companies
in
order
to
determine
the
parents.
First,
the
parents
with
children
who
have
been
displaced
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
identify
those
who
are
most
needy
of
the
sheltering
through
the
campers,
for
example,.
E
D
The
first
thing,
I'd
like
to
supplement
is
secretary
gray,
somewhat
undersells.
What
the
transportation
cabinet
has
done
in
this
disaster.
D
They
were
the
first
on
the
scene
doing
debris,
removal
before
the
army
corps
of
engineers
were
consulted.
They
were
when
the
winds
stopped
blowing.
They
were
down
there
and
taking
on
this
second
mission
and
probably
many
others
to
come.
Thank
you,
sir,
for
that
the
the
temporary
housing
mission
is
so
important
that
we're
working
through
it
as
a
task
force.
I
think,
in
the
coming
days,
we'll
be
able
to
to
move
families
into
units
as
as
quickly
as
in
in
coming
weeks.
D
So
I
I
don't
think
you
left
anything
out,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
all
of
the
efforts.
E
Yes,
sir,
okay,
I
think
we
can
then
turn
it
over
to
to
director
hicks.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
for
having
us
today
and
I
want
to
say
one
of
your
questions
is:
what
can
the
kentucky
legislature
do
to
help
expedite
the
recovery
effort
and
and
senate
bill
5
and
house
bill
5
is
are
one
of
the
first
things
you
know
that
the
general
assembly
can
help
contribute.
You
know
to
this
effort,
and,
and
so
we.
C
We
had
a
couple
of
bill
drafting
sessions,
particularly
with
the
chairman
of
the
house,
appropriations
and
revenue
committee
earlier
on
prior
to
the
filing
of
the
house
bill
and
senate
bill
5.,
and
there
come
a
few
things
and
observations
that
I
I
want
to
make
about
that.
So
you
know
many
of
the
types
of
costs
that
we
had
offered
and
proposed
to
be
covered
are
in
the
bills
and
there
are,
but
are
there
a
few
improvements
and
items
that
we've
learned
since
that
I
want
to
mention?
C
The
first
is
process,
as
drafted
now,
only
45
million
of
the
200
million
total
appropriation
is
only
available
until
there
are
subsequent
requests
made
of
the
general
assembly
to
be
operationalized
through
special
appropriations,
bills
to
be
enacted
and
then
and
and
then
then
there
are
the
many
months
as
as
director
dosset
said
after
adjournment
of
the
regular
session,
because
these
projects
go
on
for
months
and
sometimes
years,
and
so
as
it
relates
to
process
there
with
every
disaster.
C
There
are
expenditures
that
the
commonwealth
incurs
and
the
size
and
scope
varies
with
each
disaster,
but
they're
determined
they're
but
they're.
What
is
determined
necessary
by
the
governor
and
emergency
management,
and
they
are
acted
on.
You
know
immediately,
and
these
are
costs
that
are
expected
to
be
reimbursed
by
fema.
But
you
never
know
on
the
front
end.
If
everything
is
going
to
be
ultimately
reimbursable,
and
so
we
we
would
prefer,
you
know
to
be
able
to
have
enough
allocated
appropriations
in
the
bill.
You
know
to
cover
I'll
call
it.
C
I
don't
want
to
call
them
routine
expenditures
but
they're
normal
they're,
the
kinds
of
expenditures
that
emergency
management
authorizes
working
with
each
county
and
working
with
fema,
and
you
know-
and
we
can
provide
an
estimate
say
for
of
the
next
12
months.
You
know
it
could
be
on
the
order
of
15
to
20
million
dollars
to
cover
that
estimate.
So
we'd
like
to
work
with
the
general
assembly.
C
You
know,
as
it
relates
to
not
only
that
issue
but
the
process
of
coming
to
the
general
assembly
for
subsequent
allocations
and
also
further
work
with
the
members
on
you
know.
What
are
we,
what
how
to
implement
the
recovery
needs
upon
adjournment
of
the
general
assembly,
but
a
few
other
items
that
that
I
want
to
mention
in
addition
to
the
eligible
uses.
C
One
thing
that
an
emergent
issue
that
came,
even
after
we
had
initial
talks
with
with
members,
was
that
straight
line,
fencing
for
farms,
you
know,
is
an
uninsured
item
in
many
cases,
and
so
the
assistance
to
agriculture
you
know
is
is
an
important
item
that
that
came
even
after
we
had
come
up
with
an
initial
draft.
We
also
had
in
our
initial
proposal
some
economic
development
modifying
the
economic
development
incentive
projects.
C
Much
like
we
did
for
the
ford
battery
plant
project
during
the
special
session
to
allow
a
net
present
value
incentive
process,
typically,
particularly
for
those
most
the
most
impacted
counties.
We
were
aiming
at
graves
and
hopkins,
and
so
it
was
just
a
little
tweak.
It's
not
enough
expenditure
of
funds,
but
it
is
an
ability
to
have
some
front-end
assistance
in
economic
development
assistance
there
and
then
another
area
that
we
don't
think
is
robust.
C
Enough
is
the
issue
of
revenue
losses
to
cities
and
counties
and
school
districts
who
are
most
affected
by
the
tornadoes.
There
are
provisions
in
the
bill,
good
ones,
ones
that
we
propose
and
were
agreed
to
for
advancing
to
cities
and
counties
when
their
fiscal
liquidity
is
strained
due
to
the
expenses
or
outlays
they
may
make
awaiting
insurance
proceeds
or
awaiting
fema
reimbursements,
and
to
ensure
school
districts
in
the
bill.
C
You
know,
doesn't
default
on
bond
payments,
that's
in
there,
but
we
expect
that
that
some
of
those
areas
will
experience
a
loss
of
revenues
due
to
the
destruction
of
residences
and
businesses.
C
You
know
that
their
governments
count
on
money
and,
of
course,
local
governments
rely
heavily
on
property
taxes
and
occupational
taxes
and
I'll
give
you
one
example.
Those
two
tax
types
are
over
half
of
the
graves
county
revenues
in
in
the
for
the
fiscal
court
and
over
a
third
in
hopkins
county.
So
those
are
a
few
things
that
that
we
think
we'd
like
to
continue
discussions
with
members,
but
we
appreciate
the
efforts.
Mr
chairman,
you
know
of
senate
bill
5
and
house
bill
5.
C
A
Very
good,
I
appreciate
the
presentation
and
the
communication
here:
we've
got
about
maybe
10
or
15
minutes
for
questions
and
then
we'll
we'll
wrap
it
up
here,
I'm
going
to
yield
to
members,
but
I've
got
several
questions
but
see.
If
any,
are
there
any
members
that
have
questions
right
now
any
questions
or
concerns
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
ask
a
few
director,
dosset,
probably
one
of
the
biggest.
So
let
me
kind
of
review
this
and
make
sure
I'm
hearing
you
right.
A
There
are
six
areas
that
kind
of
are
major
disaster
areas
that
you
have
listed
and
in
each
one
of
those
areas
there
should
be
a
fema
manager,
a
core
manager
and
a
kentucky
emergency
management
manager
for
each
one
of
those
areas.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
sir?
That
is
correct.
That
is
correct,
and
you
know
if
you
know
in
y'all's
communication
and
when
you
talk
to
these
folks,
if
you
could
just
make
sure
that
that
local
county
judges
and
mayors
know
who
those
folks
are
and
have
their
phone
numbers
and
know.
D
They're
on
the
ground,
sir,
and
and
sometimes
we're
in
communication
multiple
times
a
day,
so,
okay,
this
is
this-
is
a
unified
response
and
it
has
we've
been.
Actually,
we
began
hosting
calls
every
single
day
of
the
event,
and
they
were
two
calls
a
day.
We
did
a
10
a.m
and
a
2
p.m.
So
we
certainly
can
recheck
the
telephone
numbers
and
the
availability,
as
some
of
these
folks
rotate
kentucky
emergency
management
personnel
do
not
they're.
D
They
are
permanent
assignments
and
they're,
literally
linked
at
the
hip
with
the
local
em
director,
okay,
but
we
can
certainly
revisit
that
again.
A
Sir,
and
I
think
the
the
confusion
was
more
on
the
fema
side
than
kentucky
emergency
management,
because
I
I
think
there's
so
many
fema
officials,
you
know
that
they're
in
contact
with
that
there
may
be
some
confusion
like
who
is
my
main
fema
guy
that
I
can
reach
out
to,
and
I
would
I
would
request
that
as
far
as
the
temporary
temporary
housing,
so
in
us,
in
a
summary,
fema
is
working
to
get
temporary
housing
toward
these
communities,
as
well
as
the
state
is.
Is
that
correct.
D
That
is
that's
correct,
mr
chairman,
and
the
direct
housing
fema
assistance
program
are
in
the
six
counties
that
were
identified
in
the
declaration.
The
state
program
centers
on
those
six
counties,
but
it
could
be
available
to
other
smaller
communities
or
are
those
that
that
are
in
need
and
and
again
it
is
important
to
differentiate.
The
fema
program
is
housing
and
the
state
program
is
sheltering.
A
Right
right,
so
the
the
15
million
dollars
that
is
being
appropriated
through
senate
bill
five
is
that
going
toward
the
sheltering
mission
and
then
the
fema
is
a
direct
expense
by
the
federal
government
to
get
temporary
housing
into
the
area.
D
That
is
correct.
Senator
the
15
million
appropriated
will
purchase
200
travel
trailers
for
the
state
sheltering
mission.
Yes,
sir,.
A
And
could
you
expand
on
the
the
process
of
these
200
from
the
state
program,
these
200
trailers?
Are
they
going
to
be
located
in
in
clumps?
Maybe
you
know
10
or
20
of
them
together
or
what
is
the?
What
is
the
plan
there?
What
does
y'all's
plan
involve.
D
I'll
first
talk
about
some
of
the
process
and
then
I'll,
ask
secretary
gray
to
to
talk
about
how
it
will
play
out
on
the
ground
on
pads
in
the
counties.
D
D
It
contains
a
pi
information.
We
have
to
work
through
collating
the
families
that
show
the
greatest
need
that
have
school
children
that
need
to
be
in
the
community
and
we
work
down
through
that
through
an
interview
process
very
similar
to
how
fema
is
doing
it
and
once
those
families
are
identified,
then
we
look
inside
the
community
and
again
the
three-tiered
process
is
available,
rental,
housing,
rental
apartments
and
then
travel
trailers.
Of
course,
in
our
three
are
at
least
two
or
three
of
the
hardest
hit
communities.
D
E
Thanks,
john,
mr
mr
chairman,
so
what
our
scope
includes
today
is
examining
sites
that
are
available
in
the
communities
most
affected,
with
a
focus
on
at
the
at
the
initial
phase,
the
focus
on
parents
with
children
in
schools
and
what
that
means
is,
for
example,
our
I
mentioned
kyle
pote
who's,
our
chief
engineer
in
district
1,
which
includes
graves
county
and
kyle,
and
his
he
has
two
of
his
branch
engineers
he's
also
engineers
who
live
in
mayfield
and
I'm
giving
this
as
an
example.
E
So,
with
this
with
this
information,
then
they
are
able
to
identify
locations
for
possible
for
the
possible
locations
of
the
campers.
E
Just
an
example.
A
couple
of
locations
have
been
identified
and
again
I'm
mentioning
mayfield
and
graves
county,
but
a
couple
of
locations
had
been
identified
where
we
could
place
as
many
as
20,
30
or
40
campers
now
they
have.
You
know.
Part
of
that
process
includes
the
planning
includes,
confirming
that
utilities
are
available,
and
then
the
construction
of
the
locations,
but
also
bear
in
mind
that
some
of
these
locations
will
be
perhaps
on
pads
where
a
residence
may
have
existed
and
been
compromised
or
even
destroyed.
E
So
it's
a
as
the
director
says:
it's
a
it's
a
work
in
progress.
This
planning
is
underway,
I'm
confident
of
the
staff
and
the
people
that
are
engaging
this
work,
they're
the
same
ones
that
were
out
before
dawn
on
the
11th
and
they're
the
same
ones
that
are
out
in
snow
and
ice
conditions.
E
So
that's
that's
where
we
that's
where
we
are.
The
director
can
talk
about
where
we
are
with
the
with
the
location,
identification
of
actual
the
campers.
D
And,
and
the
other
thing
I
would
add,
mr
chairman,
is
this:
process
will
be
replicated
in
dawson
springs
women.
All
of
our
hard-hit
impact
communities
right.
A
Okay
and
and
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
do
we
have
a
number
of
for
fema
the?
Have
they
given
you
a
number
on
what
they
think
they're,
trying
to
directly
allocate
on
their
on
their
efforts
for
for
trailers
coming
in.
D
They
have
published
numbers
at
this
point:
they've
reviewed
applications
from
survivors
and
and
they've.
They
have
correlated
that
down
to
about
487,
I
believe
and
of
those
again
they'll
look
through
the
three-stage
process,
it's
rental
rental
and
then
a
housing
trailer
they've
not
announced
how
many
that
they
have
distilled
who
will
actually
get
trailers
yet
they're
they're,
still
working
on
that
process.
D
I
I
would
say
it
it,
it
could
be
sir,
but
I
I
wouldn't
expect
it
will
be
487,
because
their
process
goes
through
all
six
of
those
counties
and
in
some
of
the
areas
there
are
rental
options
available.
So
it
could
be
several
hundred.
But
I'm
really
unable
to
to
to
predict.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
may
miss
this,
but
approximately
how
many
folks
in
total
do
you
have
that
have
have
been
displaced
at
this
point
by
these
disasters.
D
Well,
we
have
about
13
300
that
are
registered
with
fema.
We
actually
have
estimated
and
again
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
on
the
ground
in
every
single
community
with
fema
to
do
the
actual
this
residence
is
destroyed
and
this
one
is
a
major
damage.
They,
they
categorize
the
two
largest
areas
as
destroyed
and
majors,
but
that
number
is
estimated
at
at
least
21
to
2200
residences
overall,
and
that
would
be
primarily
in
the
six
hardest
hit
counties,
but
could
extend
to
16
counties.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
okay
and
director
office
that
we
are
running
up
against
our
time.
I
have
one
more
area
of
a
couple
of
questions
related
to
debris.
Removal,
so
can
you
cover?
You
know
the
first
30
days
of
debris,
removal
is
covered.
I
understand
the
county
officials
received
a
letter
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
flexibility
there.
But
can
you
talk
about
your
future
plans
on
debris,
removal,
60
and
90
days
out.
D
So,
on
the
debris
removal
I
know,
the
governor
is
is
reaching
out
to
all
of
our
our
elected
officials
in
these
impact
counties
to
see
what
their
greatest
cost
was
in,
what
time
frame
so
that
30
days
can
can
move
either
left
or
right
to
incorp
to
incorporate
the
largest
expense
from
the
aggregate
number
of
counties
and
to
include
the
core
of
engineer,
expense.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
big
number
and
it's
a
concern
for
our
county
counties
and
county
judges
on
how
to
meet
that.
You
know
25
gap
if
it's
still
going
over
30
days.
Gentlemen,
I
thank
you.
Is
there
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
before
we
go?
Okay?
A
Well,
I
think
our
you
know
what
we
were
aiming
for
was
to
get
communication
between
the
administration
and
and
the
senate
as
far
as
what's
going
on
with
the
emergency
disaster,
and
it
sounds
like
things
are
moving
forward,
I
would
just
encourage
you
guys
to
continue
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
communicating
and
coordinating
with
our
local
officials,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
today
and
if
there
are
not
any
other
questions.