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A
A
Also,
let
me
remind
you
that
remote
members
can
be
considered
present
and
vote
on
bills.
If
you
participate
from
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annex
office,
if
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are
participating
remotely,
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not
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office,
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can
participate
in
the
discussion
of
a
bill,
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will
not
be
counted
prison
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cannot
vote
you
will.
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you
join
the
committee
remotely
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microphone
will
be
automatically
muted.
So
please
remember
to
unmute
your
microphone
if
you
wish
to
speak.
B
A
We
have
three
bills
for
consideration
this
morning.
First,
we
have
house
bill
44
an
act
relating
to
student,
mental
health.
If
representative
mccool
will
come
to
the
table,
if
you
have
any
guests
to
join
you
as
well,
and
please
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record,
remember
to
turn
your
mic
on
at
the
desk
and
then
you
may
proceed.
E
E
Again,
bye,
mccool,
nicest
district.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
I
want
to
be
brief
on
this
bill,
because
we
have
three
outstanding
scholars
that
will
speak
on
the
bill
very
thoroughly.
If
you,
if
that's
okay,.
A
E
Also
with
the
representative
wilder
as
well,
this
this
bill
is
a
very
simple
bill
and
in
the
fact
that
we
just
want
to
become
bring
awareness
to
mental
health
and
understand
how
important
that
is,
and
also
it
doesn't
change
anything
as
far
as
number
of
days
or
anything
like
that.
So
this
can't
be
over
abused
or
anything
of
that
nature.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
representative
mccool.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
the
best
kind
of
bill.
It
is
simple.
It
addresses
a
very
important
issue,
which
is
student,
mental
health,
it's
bipartisan,
it's
urban,
rural
and
it's
student-led,
so
these
students
came
to
representative
mccool
and
me
over
the
interim
with
their
recommendation
for
what
would
be
helpful
to
them
as
students
and
with
that
we'll
just
let
them
introduce
themselves
and
explain
their
bill.
I
J
This
bill
was
created
to
not
only
uplift
students
but
to
remove
the
stigma
around
mental
health
in
the
commonwealth.
Students
often
feel
uncomfortable
expressing
their
mental
well-being
to
parents
and
school
staff.
This
bill
allows
students
to
honestly
express
to
school
staff
why
they
are
absent
and
help
eliminate
the
silence
around
mental
health
issues.
K
One
of
which
hasn't
been
discussed
enough
is
the
pandemic's
effects
on
mental
health
with
students
and
their
well-being.
Think
about
it.
Students
were
quarantined
away
from
all
other
kids,
their
age
for
many
months
to
a
year
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
have
to
go
back
to
school,
where
they're
surrounded
by
kids
their
age
at
hundreds
all
at
once.
Even
if
you
didn't
notice
at
first,
they
were
affected
in
unforeseen
ways.
For
example,
I
have
always
been
a
very
extroverted
student.
K
My
friends
have
seen
me
as
the
one
who
will
go
up
talk
to
anybody
will
introduce
anyone
to
whoever
they
need
to
talk
to,
I'm
always
a
very
upbeat
person,
then
after
the
pandemic.
It
really
hit
me
in
ways
I
didn't
expect.
I
developed
social
anxiety
and
going
back
to
school
was
really
hard
for
students
like
me,
as
well
as
a
couple
other,
my
friends
going
around
these
big
groups
of
kids,
I
would
get
all
of
a
sudden
nervous
and
my
friends
would
be
like
amir.
K
What
is
wrong
and
they
wouldn't
know
what
was
going
on.
They
were
like
this
isn't
like
you,
and
I
didn't
even
know
how
to
explain
it
myself
and
that's
why
this
bill
is
so
important
because
students
get
scared,
they
don't
know
what's
going
on
and
if
school
is
very
much
stressful,
it's
full
with
many
stressors.
So
it's
not
just
the
workload,
but
the
social
pressures
around
you
and
if
you
have
issues
going
on
being
at
school,
does
not
help
and
that's
what
this
bill
is
for.
I
Our
students
need
the
ability
to
take
a
day
off
here
and
there
to
decompress
and
regroup
and
to
do
so
without
judgment.
According
to
data
from
2019
school
problems
were
identified
in
44
percent
of
use
suicide
cases.
This
data
is
pre-coded
when
the
kentucky
injury,
prevention
and
research
center
releases
updated
postcoded
figures.
This
number
could
be
well
above
the
44
mark.
That
is
why
it
is
important
for
us
to
trust
students
and
allow
them
to
take
their
own
mental
health
seriously.
J
J
J
K
We
are
not
the
first
state
to
propose
a
bill
that
supports
schools
to
have
excused
absences
for
mental
health.
There
are
at
least
13
other
states
that
have
passed
laws
or
expanded
on
previous
laws,
allowing
excused
absences
for
mental
health
reasons,
for
example,
utah
past
house
bills,
81
that
adds
mental
health
or
behavioral
health
as
a
valid
excuse
for
a
school
absence.
They
also
pass
house
bill
234
that
amends
the
definition
of
a
valid
excuse
in
the
polls
in
the
compulsory
education
code.
K
I
I
E
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
this
opportunity.
We
certainly
would
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
that
you
have
at
this
time.
This
is
like
we
said,
is
a
very
important
bill,
simple,
but
very
important
and
and
again
I'd
like
to
ask
your
your
support.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
students
for
presenting
so
eloquently
and
speaking
out.
I
think
any
bill
that
we
have
or
anything
that
we
can
do
to
encourage
conversations
and
raise
awareness
of
the
mental
health
of
students
we
need
to
be
supportive
of.
We
do
have
one
question
representative
scott.
I
think
she's
remotely.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
chairwoman.
I
to
echo
thank
you
to
the
students
for
speaking
to
us
this
morning
and
to
representative
mccool
and
representative
wilner
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward.
My
question
to
the
two
co-sponsors
is
for
the
attendance
policy.
We
know
that
emotional
and
mental
behavioral
health
issues
are
extremely
important.
Will
there
need
to
be
any
kind
of
documentation
that
students
provide
that
show
that
they
may
be
under
the
care
of
a
mental
health
specialist?
I'm
just
curious
to
know
what
would
be
the
parameters
for
students
and
guardians
or
those
parents
seeking
that
excused
absence.
E
Thank
you
representing
scott
for
that
question.
It
doesn't
change
anything.
You
certainly
still
can
have
those
documentations
from
a
doctor
that
will
not
change
that
process
at
all
does
not
change
any
current
process.
Thank
you.
C
C
A
C
C
D
Thank
you.
I
can
think
of
nothing
more
important
than
to
give
our
young
people
the
ability
to
advocate
for
themselves
in
their
own
mental
health
and
not
to
have
any
artificial
pressures
about
what
is,
or
is
an
acceptable
reason
to
take
a
day
off
school.
So
I
commend
you.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
else
you
bring
to
us
here
in
the
general
assembly,
and
I
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
make
this
happen.
C
C
B
C
C
A
A
Next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
house
bill
126
an
act
relating
to
high
school
graduation
requirements.
I
am
going
to
remain
as
the
chair
since
co-chair
riley
is
not
here
and
I
don't
want
to
get
up.
No.
A
No,
I
don't
want
to
sit
by
me,
but
I
have
with
me
a
guest
to
speak
on
this
measure.
So
if
you
would
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
then
you
can
proceed.
M
Yes,
ma'am
good
morning,
members
of
the
education
committee.
Thank
you,
chair
huff
for
letting
us
speak
today.
My
name
is
john
hughes.
I'm
with
kentucky
chamber
of
commerce
house
bill.
126
is
a
legislative
priority
for
our
organization.
M
One
of
the
key
findings
from
our
report
was
the
need
for
increasing
post-secondary
attainment
in
kentucky,
including
not
just
four-year
degrees
but
two-year
degrees,
credentials
and
other
forms
of
post-secondary
training
as
well.
Education
and
training
beyond
the
high
school
degree
is
critical
to
building
a
competitive
workforce
and
meeting
the
demands
of
the
modern
economy.
M
Completing
fafsa
can
help
make
students
and
families
aware
of
all
their
options
to
make
post-secondary
attainment
affordable,
louisiana,
which,
in
the
2017-2018
school
year,
became
the
first
state
to
require
high
school
seniors
to
file
fafsa
before
graduation.
In
the
inaugural
year
of
fafsa,
first,
the
percentage
of
students
filing
grew
from
51
percent
to
77
percent.
I
want
to
make
a
note.
There
is
an
opt-out
provision
included
in
this
bill.
If
there
is
a
child
who
cannot
complete
this
requirement,
an
opt-out
waiver
is
available.
M
A
Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
also
share
that
we
are
statutorily
required
to
be
provide
college
education
for
students
in
the
commonwealth,
and
if
we
take
do
the
fafsa
first,
then
we
can
capture
those
federal
dollars
and
we
can
take
up
this,
the
rest
of
the
bills.
A
So
I
think
this
is
another
reason
that
we
should
pass
this
and
also
we
have
there's
several
states
that
are
ahead
of
us
now,
so
we're
all
all
competing
for
those
federal
dollars,
and
I
just
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
those
just
to
be
aware
of
fast
fund
to
get
get
families
and
communities,
and
this
will
become
a
practice
for
families
once
we
get
this
started.
So
I
hope
that
you
will
support
this
bill
and
we
will
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
represented
bojanowski.
D
Okay,
so
from
my
first
semester
in
college
in
1982,
when
the
tuition
was
somewhere
around
six
hundred
dollars
a
semester
to
finishing
my
phd
in
2017
every
step
along
the
way
I've
been
able
to
make
those
strides
in
in
improving
my
education
level
because
of
federal
support
that
comes
through
the
fafsa.
D
My
son
brandon
was
able
to
do
community
college
because
of
being
a
single
parent
and
his
his
fafsa
numbers
without
ever
having
to
pay
a
dollar
out
of
pocket.
So
the
fafsa
is
incredibly
important
to
gain
access
to
those
funds.
In
the
past,
I've
struggled
a
bit
with
this
bill
because
of
it
being
mandatory
and,
like
I
said,
I've
filled
out
a
lot
of
fafsa,
but
that's
the
point.
I've
filled
out
a
lot
of
fafsa
every
single
child
that
went
through
college
courses.
D
I
prepared
their
fafsa,
so
I'm
going
to
shift
a
little
bit
and
part
of
that,
I
think,
is
because
of
how
few
just
the
lower
number
of
children
who
are
doing
fafsas
and
then
the
other
thought
of
there
may
be
students
who
might
succeed
in
postgraduate
studies
of
any
kind
that
might
not
be
on
the
counselor's
radar
to
push
them
through,
and
maybe
this
will
push
through
some
of
those
kids
who
will
then
have
access
to
the
same
opportunities
that
I
was
given
so
I'll
be
a
yes
vote.
Thank
you.
G
G
I
have
I'm
out
of
the
f
I'm
old
enough
that
I'm
out
of
the
fafsa
business
now,
but
I
have
been
through
that
with
my
three
children
good
news.
The
federal
government
is
on
target
to
change
the
form
to
make
it
less
complicated,
so
it's
not
quite
as
intimidating
to
students
and
parents
who
are
filling
this
out.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
and
I
also
believe
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
state
who
really
don't
know.
What's
out
there.
G
G
G
G
A
B
C
C
C
C
F
I
I'm
a
yes
on
this
it
it.
There
are
some
things
that
I
I
do
have
some
concerns
about,
but
I
think
this
is
a
critical
first
step.
I
believe
that
that
addition
of
the
adding
the
opt-out
piece
for
students
that
are
going
to
be
going
into
the
military,
where
the
fafsa
wouldn't
necessarily
apply,
I
think
that's
important.
The
fafsa
is
a
very,
very
complicated
form.
F
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
I
just
I
don't
want
our
superintendents
putting
this
on
teachers
for
them
to
have
to
complete,
because
obviously
we
are
including
a
form
that
is
for
the
family
and
we're
making
it
a
high
school
requirement.
So
we've
got
two
different
worlds
there.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
not
put
on
the
teachers
or
in
the
schools
too,
or
specifically
the
teachers,
because
they're
overworked
at
this
point,
but
I'm
a
yes
on
this.
G
G
H
Vote,
yes,
thank
you.
I
very
much
support
students
completing
the
fafsa
and
that
being
part
of
the
curriculum.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important,
but
I'm
very
nervous
about
the
graduation
requirement,
and
it
concerns
me
that
it
may
be
a
barrier
to
graduation
for
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
and
disconnected
students,
and
so
I
reluctantly
vote
no,
because
I
think
the
idea
behind
this
is
excellent,
but
somehow
the
graduation
requirement
is
just
too
high
a
bar
for
me.
So
I'm
a
no
today
chair.
A
A
Our
last
bill
of
the
morning
is
house
bill,
194,
representative
johnson.
If
you
would
come
to
the
table
please,
and
if
you
have
any
guests
with
you,
please
join
him
at
the
table.
N
I
will
start
again
thank
you
for
chairwomanhof
for
having
me
this
morning.
My
name
is
dj
johnson
13th
district
state,
representative
owensboro
davis,
county
area.
I
am
joined
today
by
ms
rhonda
caldwell
executive
director
for
the
kentucky
association
of
school
administrators
in
person.
Thank
you
for
coming
this
morning
and
online.
I
have
with
us
today,
jeremy
cameron,
who
is
the
principal
of
the
davis
county
day,
treatment
center,
and
I
believe
I've
seen
him
online,
so
hopefully
he's
still
there
with
technology
is
working
again.
N
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
for
you
this
morning
and
I'm
here
today,
just
to
discuss
house
bill
194
and
house
bill.
194
addresses
a
situation
concerning
ged
opportunities
for
students
attending
alternative
schools
by
adopting
house
bill
194,
the
general
assembly
will
provide
educators
an
additional
tool
that
will
contribute
to
student
success.
N
The
vast
majority
of
these
students
are
making
suitable
academic
progress,
but
for
that
small
number
who
are
not
other
options
are
needed
house
bill
194
provides
an
additional
opportunity
to
that
limited
pool
of
students
who
may
see
themselves
as
being
at
a
dead
end.
Students
in
alternative
programs
who
are
at
least
17
years
old
and
who
have
insufficient
high
school
credits
to
graduate
within
a
reasonable
time
of
time
period,
often
resign
themselves
to
failure
and
simply
become
another
dropout
statistic.
N
N
They
can
learn
a
trade,
get
a
good
paying
job
which
we've
been
discussing
this
morning
already
or
perhaps
maybe
join
the
military,
as
recently
as
2012
kentucky
had
a
secondary
ged
pathway
available
to
help
all
high
school
students
who
were
significantly
below
grade
level,
with
the
advent
of
an
emphasis
on
high
school
graduation
rates
and
raising
the
dropout
age
to
18.
That
path
was
discontinued
later
in
2017.
N
The
previous
chair
of
this
committee,
the
late
representative,
bam
kearney,
wisely,
saw
the
value
of
the
ged
as
an
opportunity
for
state
agency
children,
many
many
of
whom
had
endured,
trauma
poverty
or
abuse.
He
sponsored
a
bill
to
offer
these
students
the
option
of
a
ged
that
bill
was
passed
and
became
krs
158.143
with
hb
194.
N
We
are
asking
you
to
amend
that
statute
to
expand
the
availability
of
a
ged
pathway
to
a
small
number
of
students
who
are
not
state
agency,
children
but
move
but
may
have
already
or
may
have
also
experienced
trauma,
abuse
poverty
or
just
a
lack
of
success
in
the
traditional
high
school
program
house.
Bill
184
gives
these
students
hope
for
a
successful
future
where
they
may
have
believed
there
was
none.
Thank
you
for
considering
this
legislation,
and
I
urge
you
to
give
it
support
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
N
Actually,
I
would
be
glad
to
turn
over
any
questions
to
the
other
people
with
me
today.
A
We
have,
we
don't
have
any
questions
for
you,
so
you
must
have
bojanowski
representative
bojanowski.
Please
ask
a
question.
N
Getting
them
started
getting
them
ready
to
do
that.
Part
of
the
process
are
part
of
the
qualifications
are
that
they
are
at
least
17
years
old
in
an
alternative
school
and
clearly
not
going
to
be
able
to
achieve
a
high
school
diploma
anytime
soon.
So
we
want
to
get
them
started
in
the
process
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
they
don't
get
to
that
point
where
they
think
they
have
no
shot,
and
then
they
give
up.
Okay,.
D
N
C
O
C
O
Okay,
well
thanks
for
having
me
it's
it's
interesting
this
whole
morning
of
bills,
kind
of
falls
into
one
group
that
ultimately,
is
about
hope
to
follow
up
on
the
response
from
representative
johnson.
This
will
allow
students
the
opportunity
to
take
the
ged
while
enrolled
in
an
alternative
high
school.
O
So
yes,
this
would
allow
them
to
take
the
ged
as
a
high
schooler,
because
we're
talking
about
a
very,
very
narrow
band
of
kids
that
are
very
much
off
track
to
graduate.
So
this
would
pretty
much
be
their
only
hope
to
to
finish
and
to
answer
your
question
ma'am,
the
research
that
we
have
done
with
kde
is
that
it
will
not
impact
the
accountability
specifically
to
the
cohort
graduation
rate.