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B
C
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
glad
to
see
the
passion
of
the
committee
for
quadricycles
and
apparently
some
have
ridden
those
before
we
have
senate
bill
65,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
chairman
for
discussing
65
and
the
committee
sub
are
like
there
with
me
and
working
through
the
process
I'll
be
speaking
today,
just
on
senate
bill
65
clean.
That's.
My
understanding
from
the
chair,
I'm
chair
of
the
administrative
rig
review
committee,
along
with
representative
hale
senate
bill.
D
65,
is
filed
kind
of
in
tandem
with
and
works
with
senate
bill,
2
that
we
passed
earlier
in
the
session,
and
it's
if
you
have
not
had
the
pleasure
of
being
on
administrator
right
review
before
it's
completely
different
than
any
other
committee
in
frankfurt.
We
only
have
power
to
do
certain
things
on
that
committee.
We
can
ask
for
a
deferral.
D
D
So
you
would
think.
Maybe
that's
it's.
That's
not
that
big
a
deal,
but
this
is
a
huge
deal
when
it
comes
to
policy
and
protecting
really
the
power
of
legislative
branch,
and
so,
in
effect,
what
we're
doing
any
rig
we
find
deficient
during
the
interim
period.
At
the
beginning
of
this
new
session,
I,
as
chairman
of
the
committee,
have
made
the
decision
I'll.
I
will
be
filing
as
long
as
I'm
chair
of
the
committee
I'll
be
filing
a
bill
that
all
those
regs
found
efficient
are
hereby
null
and
void
and,
in
effect,
what
that
does.
D
It's
it
seems
to
be
rolling
pretty
well,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
We.
E
Point
of
information:
what
did
you
find
deficient
about
this
or
any
particular
regulation?
It
seems
to
me
this
is
pretty
broad.
The
reason
I
asked
that
senator
is
back
in
the
80s.
We
did
a
similar
piece
of
legislation
that
every
regulation
had
to
be
put
into
bill
farm
as
chairman
of
health
and
welfare.
E
At
that
time
I
had
80
regulations
put
in
the
bill
form
that
lasted
about
two
days
if
they
formed
a
committee
and
and
and
repealed
that
bill,
because
it's
impossible
to
do
that,
regulations
are
are
introduced
for
a
particular
reason
to
meet
a
certain
need
at
that
particular
time,
and
I'm
not
saying
all
of
them
should
be
continued
on
right,
but
this
is
pretty
broad
that
you
just
anything
you
find
that
you
think
might
be
deficient.
It
just
is
deficient
and
I
think
you
need
to
go
further
than
that
there.
E
E
It'll
probably
pace,
but
it's
too
broad
and
I
say:
we've
been
there
been
down
that
street
several
times
and
it
just
don't
work.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
it's
important
to
point
out.
I
should
have
mentioned
earlier
it
every
committee
has
the
same
power
to
do
what
the
administrative
rig
review
committee
does.
So,
for
instance,
one
of
these
regs
was
before
the
health
and
welfare
committee.
My
committee,
the
administrative
road
committee,
did
not
find
the
drug
deficient,
but
once
it
moved
up
the
chain
to
health
and
welfare,
it
was
found
deficient
so
that
this
this
bill
applies
to
all
committees
across
the
general
assembly.
D
So,
as
a
group,
we
looked
at
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
regulations
through
that
process
during
the
interim
period.
During
that
whole
process,
we
have
we
found
three
regs
deficient
and
two
of
those
drugs
were
the
same
subject
matter
so,
as
you
can
see
we're
not
as
administrative
reg
review
committee,
we're
not
tying
the
hands
of
the
administration
that
much
because,
during
that
that
large
body
of
regs,
we
only
found
three
deficient
during
that
time,
and
this
bill
only
applies
to
those
three
three
wrecks.
F
Gosh
I've
been
here
23
years
and
I
would
love
to
have
an
example
of
a
rig.
That's
deficient.
D
An
example
of
a
there's
within
13
at
13a,
regulates
regulations
and
there's
criteria
within
13a
that
set
that
up
so
and-
and
I
do
have
administrative
rig
review
staff
with
me
today-
they
they
have
13
a
memorized.
I
do
not,
so
they
can
point
us
exactly
to
where
it
is,
but
you
have
a
list
of
it's
either
seven
or
eight
reasons
why
a
red
can
be
found
efficient,
and
so
when
we,
when
they
come
before
the
committee
that
there's
seven
or
eight
reasons
why
they
can
be
found
efficient.
D
D
D
F
D
Yes,
that
that's
part
of
what
they
do
on
a
daily
basis.
D
Great
staff,
they
do
great
work,
and
so
they
have
their
own
checklists
and
systems,
and
so
they
they
flow
every
regulation
through
the
process
to
make
sure
it
meets
all
the
check
marks
in
the
process.
We
also
have
amendment
there's
opportunity
for
amendment,
so
the
agency
can't
amend
their
regulation
to
meet
any
of
those
needs
or
changes,
but
we
also
have
agency
and
we
we
have
agency
amendments.
I'm
sorry.
D
We
have
agency
amendments
which
are
meant
for
that,
but
we
also
have
committee
amendments
where
our
staff,
if
they
catch
something
they
can
propose
a
committee
amendment
to
fix
anything,
that's
wrong.
So
one
of
the
big
things
they
do
is
make
sure
that
the
regs
fit
properly
within
the
statutory
system
and
there's
no
conflict
or
it's
easy
for
a
lawyer
or
somebody
to
pick
up
the
right
and
it
flows
properly.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
legislation.
We
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
this.
Just
you
and
I
and
and
so
I
I
have
a
question
about
the
labor
cabinet
reg,
because
the
other
reg
came
through
our
committee
and.
B
G
Would
just
like
to
by
way
of
a
comment
and-
and
maybe
some
clarity
for
the
the
rest
of
the
committee-
explain
how
all
these
regulatory,
how
the
regulatory
process
works-
it
comes
through
you
first
then
it
comes
to
our
individual
committees.
Representative
burch
is
right.
We
we
have
an
abundance
of
regs
to
review.
I
think
we
had
39
regs
on
one
of
my
most
recent
meetings
and.
G
Exactly
right,
so
I
you
know,
I
understand
how
difficult
it
is
to
stay.
On
top
of
all
this,
there
is
a
process
to
defer
the
reg
and
we've
had
great
success
over
the
interim
in
working
with
the
cabinet
to
slow
down
the
process.
If
anyone
had
questions
to
defer
it
and
work
on
the
reg,
I
mean
it
has
to
be
dealt
with
within
a
certain
period
of
time,
but
that's
that's
been
a
pretty
effective
strategy
for
correcting
anything
that
we've
seen
that
could
potentially
lead
to
a
deficient
finding.
G
Is
there
anything
in
13a
in
senate
bill
2
that
we
just
passed?
That
would
assist
with
this
particular
issue
that
you're
you're
seeking
to
address.
D
D
D
I
view
this
as
completely
separate
from
sb2.
It's
more
of
a
policy
discussion,
more
of
a
an
incentive
for
the
cabinets
and
agencies
to
defer
or
to
negotiate
to
come
to.
It's
really
kind
of
like
an
arbitration
come
to
it
to
to
a
settlement.
D
As
you
can
see,
with
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
regulations,
we
only
had
three
that
were
deficient
and
so
for
a
reg
to
be
found
efficient.
I
mean
it
went
through
an
extensive
process.
D
There
were
several
meetings
and
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
cabinet
before
you
get
to
that
stage.
B
Thank
you.
I
will
point
out
to
the
members
of
the
committee
that
the
regs
in
particular
that
are
will
be
affected,
are
specifically
outlined
in
the
bill
and
senator
how
long
have
you
been
on
administrative
regs,
two
years,
okay,.
D
B
C
C
E
Birch
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote.
One
is
one
we
have.
If
we
get
the
reagan
time,
we've
got
plenty
of
time
to
bring
it
to
the
cabinet's
attention
and
work
it
out
prior
to
ever,
approving
it
or
disapproving,
and
I
think
that
that
if
you've
got
three
out
of
like
we
got
39
or
something
we
haven't
found
many
deficient
now
that
there.
I
think
that
this
is
probably
over
stefanous
like
killing
an
ain't
with
the
with
an
elephant's
foot,
but
there's
nothing
personal
against
you
senator
or
anything.
E
But
I
just
feel
like
this
is
too
broad
that
we
can
correct
a
lot
of
this
stuff
in
the
committee
meeting
and
if
it's
brought
to
our
attention
fast.
B
E
C
C
G
I
will
vote
yes
on
this.
I
do
appreciate
the
committee
sub,
which
we're
not
discussing
today,
so
I
don't
know
if
there
will
be
any
opportunity
for
amendments
on
the
floor,
but
that
might
be
something
to
consider.
We
can
discuss.
H
C
I
B
B
Last
but
not
least,
senate
bill
166,
the
sponsor
of
which
is
the
caucus
chair
in
the
senate,
and
she
is
currently
busy
running
a
caucus
meeting.
So
I
believe
we
have
jessica
burke
available
via
remote,
correct.
H
B
Sure
and
leon
also
okay,
jessica.
If
you
would
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
go
ahead
and
carry
the
ball.
H
H
And
what
this
bill
does
today.
This
is
something
that
the
cadc
board
brought
to
addiction:
recovery
care
we've
been
working
with
them.
H
There
is
a
recognized
credential
in
other
states
and
that
the
international
certification
reciprocity
consortium
recognizes
that
you
can
have
a
30-hour
master's
degree.
We
do
not
have
that
credential
here
in
kentucky
yet,
but
our
colleges
and
universities
are
awarding
30-hour
master's
degrees.
So
what
is
happening
is
people
are
getting
this
education
here
in
kentucky
and
then
taking
it
to
other
states
where
they
can
actually
use
it.
What
this
bill
does
is
create
a
licensed
alcohol
and
drug
counselor
credential
for
those
folks
who
have
that
30
hour
masters.
H
So
that's
what
this
does.
It
also
creates
a
certified
clinical
supervisor
credential
and
this
basically
standardizes
what
is
needed
for
someone
who
is
supervising
all
these
counselors
as
they
are
getting
the
hours
they
need
the
training
they
need
to
be
able
to
treat
people
with
substance,
abuse
disorder.
C
H
I
I
was
just
you
may
have
mentioned
this
man,
but
what?
What
is
the?
What
is
the
hours
that
the
master's
degrees
are
are
at
currently
36?
You
said.