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A
We'll
go
ahead
and
call
this
sixth
meeting
of
the
house
standing
committee
on
transportation
to
order,
madam
secretary,
please
call
the
roll.
B
D
E
E
A
C
A
A
A
You
know
over
the
past
during
the
interim,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
aviation
and
the
importance,
and
we
there.
I
think
it
was
the
october
meeting
september
october
meeting
we
kind
of
came
full
circle
when
we
were
talking
about.
A
You
know:
kentucky's
infrastructure,
along
with
the
carriers,
the
educational
institutions
and
trying
to
make
all
that
come
full
circle,
for
you
know
the
the
opportunities
that
are
out
there
with
aviation
in
kentucky
and
this
bill.
I
think
moves
that
ball
down
the
field
just
a
little
bit
and
so
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
some
discussion
on
it.
A
E
E
E
So
it
has
three
objectives
that
one
increasing
educational
opportunities
and
workforce
within
the
aviation
space.
I've
talked
to
you
before
about
the
need
for
mechanics,
pilots,
folks
that
work
at
airports,
engineers
and
the
like.
So
that's
the
primary
objective
here.
It's
never
been
done
really
by
the
commonwealth
previously
or
by
the
transportation
cabinet
or
the
or
the
department.
E
So
this
is
kind
of
a
historic,
historic
effort
and
one
that
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
being
taken
up
by
this
committee.
E
We
also
want
to
promote
aviation
more
broadly
across
the
commonwealth
and
really
in
an
effort
to
help
the
public
understand
the
value
of
aviation,
local
airports
to
local
communities
and
the
like
the
objective
behind
that
is
to
attract
more
people
into
the
industry.
So
it
still
is
connected
with
that
workforce
activity
and
then
the
last
thing
that's
including
in
here
is
the
need
to
develop
programs
or
support
for
innovative
aircraft
or
aviation
initiatives.
Things
like
unmanned
systems,
electric
aircraft
charging
stations,
things
like
that.
That
will
be
necessary
in
the
future.
E
E
That
I'm
sure
the
gentleman
to
my
right
will
comment
on
in
a
minute,
but
the
real
heavy
expense
of
getting
these
programs
started
up
is
the
is
the
need
for
hard
assets,
so
hangers
equipment
tools
for
amt
programs,
aircraft
to
work
on
or
maybe
aircraft
to
fly
things
like
simulators
for
flight
schools,
some
of
which
can
range
in
cost
from
ten
thousand
dollars
to
several
hundred
thousand
dollars.
E
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
anticipated
here
and
fit
within
the
the
mission
of
the
department
of
aviation
in
terms
of
the
benefits
of
the
bill
and
then
I'll
walk
through
some
of
the
provisions,
but
obviously
the
the
objective,
at
least
that
I
believe
we
have
collectively
is
to
spread
these
opportunities
across
the
commonwealth.
E
E
There
are
efforts
to
start
these
programs
across
the
commonwealth,
I'm
aware
of
one
in
fleming
county,
for
example,
that
we're
trying
to
support,
but
we
need
we
need
those
programs
across
the
commonwealth.
We
need
to
be
able
to
support
local
local
development
of
those
programs,
the
same
thing
with
pilot
training.
E
E
The
folks
at
eku
have
a
first-rate
program,
but
to
keep
up
you
know
they
have
to
continue
to
invest
in
in
capital
assets
and
the
like
for
that
program,
same
thing
with
our
two
maintenance
schools.
They
have
needs
as
well,
so
that
would
be
the
second
jobs,
as
I
mentioned
before,
that's
the
ultimate
objective
and
and
if
we
do
a
good
job
of
this,
ultimately
we
build
the
workforce
that
creates
opportunities
for
kentuckians
in
well-paying
vocations
or
professions,
and
it
also
it
also
helps
you
know.
E
Airports
like
danville
that
have
very
active
flight
training
programs,
those
tend
to
be
successful.
Airports
and
the
community
benefits
from
that
from
that
investment.
So,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
help,
airports
in
you
know
become
more
vibrant
across
the
commonwealth.
That's
going
to
help
the
local
communities
that
operate
those
airports
in
terms
of
the
bill,
and
I
won't
I'm
certainly
not
going
to
read
it
to
you,
but
I
see
some
significant
features
here.
E
The
first
is
the
creation
of
this
development
fund,
which
would
essentially
establish
a
fund
that
could
cross
fiscal
years
or
and
the
like
to
because
a
lot
of
these
programs
take
some
time
to
develop,
so
they
will
cross
budget
years
it
establishes.
A
grant
program
gives
some
general
direction
to
how
that
grant
program
is,
or
at
least
the
funding
is
allocated.
E
It
establishes
a
process,
a
timeline
and
a
as
an
oversight,
sort
of
approach
to
how
the
f
how
the
fund
is
run,
and
then
it
requires
some
accountability
to
you
as
the
legislature
that
grants
this
grants
this
program
in
the
form
of
annual
report,
with
a
good
deal
of
transparency
around
how
the
funds
are
awarded,
how
they're
spent
what
kind
of
benefits
result
from
them
so
that,
on
a
biannual
basis,
you
can
reevaluate
the
program
so
just
to
sum
it
up
before
I
turn
it
over
back
over
to
the
chair.
E
I
do,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
areas
of
significance
of
this
is
that
we've
really
never
had
the
opportunity,
as
a
transportation
cabinet
or
in
the
department
to
get
involved
in
this
kind
of
manner
with
workforce
issues,
and
so
I
I
have
done
kind
of
a
scan
of
what's
going
on
in
state
legislatures
across
the
across
the
country.
E
A
F
I
just
want
to
share
on
behalf
of
our
university
how
excited
we
are
about
house
bill,
545
and
and
how
we
think
it's
a
meaningful
investment
for
the
commonwealth,
and
I
want
to
share
some
information
from
our
program
that
I
think
underscores
the
opportunity
we
have
as
a
state
to
invest
in
aviation
education
right
now.
Eku
is
home
to
the
commonwealth's,
only
four-year
university-based
aviation
program,
and
we
have
seen
just
robust
demand
that
has
continued
and
sustained
in
recent
years.
To
put
that
in
perspective.
In
2017,
our
program
had
a
total
enrollment
of
150..
F
Last
year
our
students
completed
15
000
flight
hours,
and
our
favorite
statistic
is
that
the
graduates
of
this
program
have
a
99
post,
graduation
employment
rate.
Now
this
has
been
possible
because
of
a
lot
of
support
from
a
lot
of
people.
Our
our
administration
at
the
university
has
made
a
concerted
effort
to
invest
in
this
program,
as
has
the
general
assembly.
F
Other
states
are
recognizing
that
as
well
one
of
our
peer
institutions
in
aviation
education
in
tennessee,
recently
partnered
with
the
state
of
tennessee
and
announced
an
investment
of
more
than
60
million
dollars
in
their
program
to
construct
a
stand-alone
facility
for
their
university-based,
four-year
pilot
training
program.
So
I
think
other
states
are
seeing
the
opportunity
that
exists.
D
Thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
chairman,
thank
you
very
much
and
as
ethan
and
the
commissioner
said,
we're
very
fortunate
and
to
be
present
and
appreciate
your
support,
certainly
for
eku
and
aviation
in
general,
as
ethan
asked
just
wanted
to
give
you
just
a
quick
snapshot
of
some
of
the
job
opportunities
that
some
of
our
students,
our
graduates,
will
have,
so
it
really
falls
into
three
stanchions
or
staunches.
D
Certainly
the
profile,
the
the
professional
fights
get
a
lot
of
the
visibility,
those
if
we
are
familiar
with
the
employment
opportunities
for
those
the
united
states
in
and
of
itself
we're
running
about
20
to
30
thousand
pilots
short.
So
we
are
playing
a
small
part
in
that
as
an
example
of
that.
D
If
next
this
coming
next
month
in
april,
we
will
have
a
career
fair,
where
we've
invited
approximately
20
to
25
aviation
related
organizations
to
come
down
and
talk
to
our
students
and
have
an
opportunity
to
interview
them
at
that
particular
opportunity.
We'll
have
seven
regional
airlines
that
will
be
present
at
that
on
that
day
and
that
that
specific
day
they
will
be
giving
contracts
to
our
pilots
that
are
about
to
graduate
in
the
april
time
frame.
D
End
of
may
so
they
will
sign
a
conditional
letter
of
employment
with
these
airlines
and
they
will
be
receiving
up
to
a
30
000
bonus
for
the
professionalism
and
the
skills
that
they
are
bringing
to
that.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
our
students.
In
addition
to
that,
it's
not
just
a
pro
flight
pilots
that
are
all
getting
the
visibility,
but
we
have
a
number
of
students
that
are
graduating
in
the
management
side
of
things
as
well.
D
They
will
also
be
provided
an
opportunity
to
sign
contracts
with
major
aviation
airports
just
about
every
major
airport
in
the
united
states
has
a
graduate
from
eku
in
the
management
side
and
then
along
those
lines.
We're
also
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
introduce
the
uas
so
starting
in
the
fall.
The
university
will
have
a
uas
unmanned
aerial
systems,
aircraft
systems
concentration
to
address
that
void
in
employment
as
well.
The
uas
program
unmanned
systems
are
taking
off
like
gangbusters
across
the
united
states
and
we're
excited
about
that
opportunity
coming
into
the
fall.
D
So
if
we
were
fortunate
enough,
if
the
law
passes,
the
bill
passes,
some
of
the
things
that
we
would
be
certainly
if
applying
for
is
to
address
some
of
the
infrastructure
needs
that
we
need
hard
assets.
As
the
commissioner
said,
we
continually
need
airplanes.
Airplanes,
continue
to
go
up.
It's
a
supply
and
demand
issue
that
we
are
facing,
so
we
would
need
to
buy
additional
airplanes
for
our
program
to
address
the
uas
issue.
D
As
I
said,
we're
going
to
be
standing
up
a
new
program
and
the
resources
that
are
necessary
to
fund
and
provide
assets
to
our
students,
for
that
would
certainly
be
a
avenue
that
we
would
be
able
to
use
some
of
the
funds
that
were
available
if
the
law,
if
this
bill
passes
and
then
finally
again
additional
real
assets
out
at
the
airport,
hangars
and
facilities
would
be
certainly
fall
within
the
realm
of
the
possible
if
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
get
some
of
the
funds
from
this
program.
A
A
Private
schools
such
as
you
know,
aircraft
or
air
schools
could
make
application
for
simulators
you
all
eku
could
make
application
for
hangers
and
more
planes
and
simulators,
and
I
know
somerset
community
college
is
one
of
the
aviation
maintenance.
They
could
make
application
for
more
aircraft
to
work
on,
because
I
know
when
I
talk
to
dr
castle
down
there
once
they
purchase
an
aircraft,
it
is
decommissioned,
never
flies
again,
and
so
there's
only
so
much
work
that
can
be
done.
E
Right,
I
that's
absolutely
right
and
just
for
the
benefit
of
some
of
the
committee
flight
training,
for
example
a
private
flight
school
flight
training's
expensive,
but
under
the
faa
rules,
some
of
that
training
can
be
done
in
simulators.
They
have
to
be
faa,
approved,
simulators,
but
even
a
fairly
modest
red
bird
simulator.
E
That
would
be
faa
certified
as
probably
cost
about
ten
thousand
dollars.
Now
you
can
find
them
used
for
less
and
the
like,
but
that's
generally
about
what
they
cost.
So
you
know
a
flight
school
at
one
of
the
airports.
I
frequent
is
somerset
lake
cumberland
a
flight
school
there.
If
they
had
a
simulator
they
could
do.
E
They
could
make
training
more
available
to
students
who
may
be
more
challenged
in
terms
of
their
means
and
to
be
able
to
you
know
to
do
flight
training,
so
that
would
be
an
example
on
the
independent
flight
school
perspective
and
then
chairman
of
church.
I
think
your
example
of
the
somerset
community
college
program
is
spot
on
in
terms
of
of
the
amt
schools.
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioner,
in
this
bill.
This
would
also
not
just
with
our
higher
education
level,
but
this
grant
program
would
also
open
the
door
for
our
public
schools
and
vocational
programs
to
be
able
to
apply
for
these
grant
funds
potentially
to
get
you
know.
Maintenance
programs
at
the
local
airport,
level
and
and
and
flight
programs
started
at
the
local
level
that
may
potentially
be
feeder
programs
to
our
higher
education
is.
That
is
that
that's.
E
That's
absolutely
correct,
representative
dixon,
the
in
fact
again
just
for
the
benefit
of
everyone,
the
aircraft
owners
and
pilots,
association
or
aopa.
They
have
a
curriculum.
This
would
be
in
the
case
of
flight
training
which
flight
you
know.
Professional
flight
can
be
a
vocation
or
a
or
a
profession,
but
so
the
aopa
would
have
curriculum
the
same
exists
for
amt
schools
and
and
they
can
be
pushed
down
into
the
high
schools.
E
In
fact,
the
aopa
is
is
focused
on
the
high
schools,
so
yeah
it
it
would
align
with
vocational
training
and-
and
we
have
examples
across
the
commonwealth
of
you-
know-
very
robust
programs
with
local
local
high
schools.
Nelson
county,
for
example,
is
a
is
kind
of
a
hotbed
for
that.
G
Mr
chairman,
just
discussion
sure
I
just
like
to
stay
done.
You
know
what
I
know,
commissioner
and
ethan,
and
you
know
during
the
caucus
this
summer,
for
the
aviation
aerospace.
You
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
education
and
opportunities,
and
and
that's
why
I
I
really
favor
this
so
much,
because
it
was
kind
of
shocking
to
me
that
we
didn't
already
have
some
kind
of
allotment
for
this
type
of
educational
opportunity
for
our
young
folks.
G
You
know
in
in
our
state
because
learning
through
the
caucus
and
through
the
information
that
aviation
was
one
of
the
leaders
and
and
revenue
for
the
for
the
state
of
kentucky
and
that
we
didn't
have
a
base,
you
know
in
a
feeder
system
for
for
one
those
jobs
but
two
those
careers
that
are
good
paying
careers
moving
forward.
So
I
appreciate
you
guys
coming
and
discussing
this
today.
This
is
a,
I
think,
it's
an
important
topic
to
the
to
the
aerospace
and
aviation
community
across
the
state.
D
Sir,
do
you
mind
if
I
had
representative
dixon,
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more.
We
are
inundated
almost
on
a
weekly
basis
by
high
schools
asking
to
partner
with
us
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
m.
One
of
the
challenges
for
them
is
trying
to
get
simulators
and
that
type
of
education
down
at
that
level.
So
this
program
would
fit
perfect
for
that.
D
D
There
is
a
huge
demand
for
that
type
of
of
resource
out
there
at
the
high
school
level.
So
thank
you.
A
Just
I
got
another
question
here
before
we
go
to
that
ethan,
you
made
the
statement
about
what
tennessee
was
doing
and
they've
invested
middle
tennessee.
State
university
is
your
closest
competitor,
correct,
yes,
sir,
and
so
this
state
of
tennessee
has
invested
60
million
dollars
in
their
aviation
program.
A
Of
course,
this
bill
is,
you
know,
basically,
five
million
dollars
in
each
year
of
the
biennium,
so
I
mean
we're
we're
still
behind
the
eight
ball,
but
I
think
we
can
do
a
lot
with
the
five
million
dollars.
So
I
thought
that
was
quite
interesting.
What
tennessee's
doing
you
know
with
in
competition?
I
guess
with
with
euros
program
representative
flaming.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair
gentlemen,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
this
afternoon
and
I
really
do
appreciate
this.
This
effort
in
terms
of
setting
up
this
structure.
I
just
have
a
couple
questions.
If
you
don't
mind,
mr
chair,
just
for
clarification,
not
in
any
particular
order.
The
first
one
is
the
review
committee
just
curious.
Should
there
be
some
type
of
legislative
representative
on
this
review
committee,
either
a
voting
or
non
voting
member.
E
I
you
know,
that's,
that's,
certainly
something
that
could
be
changed
in
the
bill.
Representative
fleming,
but
you
know.
A
H
What
I
thought,
mr
chairman,
that's
why
I
mentioned
non-voting
as
well
that
it
could
be
in
there
or
maybe
an
advisory.
The
only
reason
I
say
that
is
basically
just
make
sure
that
the
legislative
body
has
a
good,
steady
flow
of
information
other
than
getting
a
report
on
an
annual
basis.
So
we
can
see
how
things
developing
and
mature,
so
we
can
be
more
active
and
in
terms
of
looking
at
other
things,
we
can
do
in
doing
that.
So
just
a
food
for
thought,
the
other
could
you
go
over?
H
H
E
Yeah
the
percentages
were
I
mean
there
was
no
science
to
it.
Representative
fleming,
I
think
what
in
the
discussion
back
and
forth,
the
idea
was
to
try
to
to
take
some
of
the
funds
and
direct
them
specifically
towards
innovative
systems
such
as
the
unmanned
systems
that
dennis
talked
about,
and
then
the
idea
of
promotion
trying
we've
really
never
tried
to
promote
careers
in
aviation
through
anything
other
than
just
the
local
airports.
E
E
The
reason
that
it
says
up
to
5
million
for
education
as
if
we
didn't
spend
any
of
the
you
know
the
money
on
the
innovative
systems
or
the
or
the
or
the
promotional
activities.
Okay,.
E
Those
certainly
could
be
adjusted,
but
it's
my
sense
that
that
would
be
an
appropriate
allocation
based
on
what
we,
what
we
see
out
in
the
commonwealth,
yeah
and.
H
A
Well,
after
after
the
meeting
today,
hopefully
the
bill
will
be
referred
to
the
appropriations
revenue
committee
and
then
have
it
in
a
folder
ready
for
free
conference
got
it.
H
I
understand
okay
well
good.
Well,
I
I
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
thing,
no
more
than
30
seconds.
I
do
appreciate
you
coming
forth
and
I
think
the
aviation
caucus
and
working
with
you
all
has
been
very,
very
fruitful
in
terms
of
developing
this,
these
types
of
things
and
so
forth.
So-
and
I
and
I
do
I
do
what
I'll
do
what
I
can,
particularly
in
our
community,
to
see
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
getting
things
going.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
randy
bridges,
representative
from
the
third
district,
and
I
have
with
me
george
eklund,
from
the
kentucky
homeless
coalition.
Today
we
have
house
bill
197
before
you.
This
is
an
identity
documents
and
it
does
mainly
two
things
and
I'll
try
to
make
this
quick.
It
allows
16
and
17
year
olds,
who
are
homeless,
to
get
an
id
without
parental
consent.
I
There
are
these
youth
that
are
that
don't
have
a
relationship
with
their
parents
they're.
They
are
homeless.
I
think
in
2020
we
had
over
580
children
under
the
age
of
18
that
were
homeless
in
this
range,
so
they
need
these
essential
documents
to
navigate
society,
to
apply
for
college.
A
H
H
A
I
H
Real
quick
explanation:
I
want
to
appreciate
the
representative.
You
all
come
bringing
this
forward.
I've
gotten
several
emails
about
this.
I
think
it's
important
to
provide
those
folks
with
the
ability
to
go
and
access
and
do
some
things,
so
they
can
increase
their
livelihood
as
well
as
their
quality
of
life.
So
thank
you.
Yes,.
A
C
I
C
A
J
Okay,
good,
I
have
a
very
short
statement
on
a
counterfeit
airbag
bill
that
we'd
like
to
ask
you
to
support.
Over
the
past
several
years,
our
industry
has
seen
a
dramatic
rise
in
the
number
of
cheap
and
ineffective
knockoff
replacement,
airbags
being
installed
in
vehicles.
Our
industry
is
working
closely.
I
C
C
C
C
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
hb
693,
the
committee
sub
it's
designed
and
intended
to
help
our
kentucky
small
businesses
and
potential
cmv
drivers
and
better
address
the
shortage
of
qualified
commercial
drivers
that
we
know
all
exist.
The
bill
helps
by
codifying
the
new
federal
regulations
which
went
into
effect
on
february
7th
of
this
year,
so
we
can
meet
the
needs
of
kentucky
drivers
who
are
obtaining
seeking
to
obtain
a
cdl
license
on
february
7th
of
this
year.
C
The
eldt
or
entry-level
driver
training,
which
is
a
federal
mandate
under
the
federal
motor
carrier
safety
act,
went
into
effect
in
every
state
in
the
nation.
The
eldts
set
universal
minimum
requirements
for
training
and
standards
under
49
cfr,
sections
380.600
and
380.609.
That's
the
code
of
federal
regulations.
C
C
H
B
A
E
J
A
A
Now
the
last
thing
we've
got
is
oh
representative,.
A
C
Mr
chairman,
this
is
john
johnson,
I'm
assistant
general,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
cabinet
with
ricky
seismore
branch
manager.