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B
Yeah,
it
does
have
to
get
some
readings,
that's
right!
Well,
let's,
let's
see
who
shows
up
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
B
Okay,
we
got
our
Quorum
here
and
it's
a
little
after
nine
o'clock,
so
we'll
I
have
the
Clark
call
the
roll.
D
B
E
B
F
F
We
have
been
working
to
create
a
situation
for
the
Fair
and
Exposition
Center
to
upgrade
its
facilities
and,
if
I'm
not
bad
and
mistaken,
I
think
Senator
McDaniel
has
a
resolution
on
some
monies
based
on
a
presentation
cutting
the
money
loose
for
their
start
on
that
expansion.
One
of
the
key
components
to
this
expansion
is
being
able
to
acquire
property
that
is
currently
owned
by
the
Jefferson
County
public
school
system.
F
So
this
committee
sub
has
a
portion
in
it
because
under
our
current
law-
and
this
is
the
only
one
and
I
want
to
thank
Brianna
and
the
league
of
cities
for
pointing
this
out
to
me-
they
have
a
totally
different
way
for
which
they
can
dispose
of
properties,
but
Public
School
Systems
do
not.
They
have
to
declare
it
Surplus
inventory,
appraise
and
then
put
it
up
for
public
auction
in
this
situation.
F
This
would
allow
them
to
get
a
fair
market
value
if
transferring
from
themselves
to
one
governmental
entity
or
another
quasi-governmental
entity
to
basically
short-circuit
the
process,
but
making
sure
they
are
appropriately
compensated.
So
this
doesn't
apply
only
to
that
situation.
It
would
apply
in
any
situation,
but
that's
one
that
is
the
the
one
that
is
brought
this
to
the
Forefront
and
got
it
on.
H
H
E
President
outside
of
that
committee,
members,
House
Bill
393
stays
the
exact
same
as
it
was
I
went
introduced
in
into
you
in
the
original
format.
It
amends
statues
and
streamlines
Municipal
procedures
related
to
procurement
and
disposition
of
surplus
property
to
codify
current
practices
and
address
some
needed
exemptions.
Sections
one
through
three
just
clarify
that
local
governments
are
not
included
in
the
state
procurement
code
by
just
changing
the
public.
The
word
public
agency
to
governmental
body,
section,
four
just
amends
requirements
on
City
deposition,
Surplus
property
in
the
statute
by
rate.
E
One
note
in
section
four:
is:
it
permits
the
retiring
of
a
service
animal
such
as
a
canine
or
a
horse
that
that
animal
would
be
given
back
to
its
trainer
at
the
end
of
its
service
sections
five
through
six
just
provide
an
exemption
in
the
bidding
status
in
the
following
types
of
purchases,
products
and
services
provided
to
a
non-profit
or
other
business
or
organization
in
the
city
that
the
main
mission
of
the
business
or
the
purpose
of
serving
or
excuse
me
the
business
purpose
of
serving
individuals
with
disabilities,
mental
physical
and
recovery
from
substance
abuse
disorders
by
offering
transitional
or
supported
Employment,
Services
or
rehabilitative
programs.
E
Section
five
just
basically
allows
the
cities
to
if
they
have
a
entity
that
is
a
non-profit
to
circumvent
the
bidding
process
and
be
able
to
choose
those
one
stipulation
that's
in
the
bill
is:
is
that
if
there
are
two
or
more
of
those
services
offered
by
the
same
non-profit
that
they
would
have
to
then
fall
back
on
the
procurement
process.
So
with
that
Mr
chairman,
that
is
House
Bill
393
and
its
form
now.
B
I
B
I
vote,
I
House,
Bill
393
is
amended
by
committee.
Sub,
passes
with
a
vote
of
eight
to
zero
and
was
if
they've
passed
a
favorable
expression
with
the
expression.
The
same
shall
pass
on
to
the
senate
floor.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
there
is
a
title
amendment.
Can
we
have
a?
We
have
a
motion?
Is
there
a
second
from
Senator
storm
all
in
favor,
say
aye
on
the
title,
Amendment
aye,
any
opposed
title
amendment
is
adopted.
Thank
you.
So
much
is
there.
Is
there
a
motion
for
consent?
B
B
J
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee
House
Bill
587
places
the
internal
auditor
in
the
Public
Public
pension
Authority,
along
with
the
executive
director.
There
are
several
reasons
why
we're
doing
this.
The
internal
professional
practices
framework
of
the
red
book
contains
standards
and
Implement
implementation
guidance
to
be
used
by
Auditors.
The
standards
indicate
that
Independence
can
be
achieved
through
a
dual
reporting
relationship.
In
those
cases
the
standards
require
functional
reporting
to
the
board
and
recommend
administrative
reporting
to
the
CEO
section.
J
1100,
the
internal
audit
activity
must
be
independent
and
internal
Auditors
must
be
objective
in
performing
their
work.
Implementation
guidance
to
achieve
the
degree
of
Independence
necessary
to
carry
out
internal
auditing
responsibilities
effectively.
The
chief
audit
executive
has
direct
and
unrestricted
access
to
Senior
Management
in
the
board
section
1110.
The
chief
audit
executive
must
report
to
a
level
within
the
organization
that
allows
the
internal
auditor
activity
to
fulfill
its
responsibilities.
Implementation
guidance
organization,
National
Independence,
is
effectively
achieved
when
the
chief
audit
executive
reports
functionally
to
the
board
section
1100
Point
A1.
J
The
internal
audit
activity
must
be
free
from
interference
in
determining
the
scope
of
internal
auditing
performing
work
and
communicating
results
in
section,
1100
and
11.
The
chief
audit
executive
must
communicate
and
interact
with
the
board.
House
Bill
587
ensures
transparency
and
removes
concerns
about
the
potential
for
collusion
and
interference
by
amending
the
direct
reporting
structure
of
the
internal
auditor
to
report
directly
to
the
kppa
board,
the
board
is
comprised
of
members
of
the
County
Employees
Retirement
System,
and
the
Kentucky
Retirement
Systems.
B
Pretty
good
any
questions
of
Representative
Weber
regarding
House
Bill,
587.
K
I
B
L
L
L
House
Bill
534
will
amend
krs-424,
145
and
424
120
by
allowing
a
digital
publication
to
qualify
as
the
paper
of
record.
If
it
meets
certain
criteria,
we
worked
with
the
Kentucky
press
Association
on
a
sub,
so
we
have
an
agreement
with
them.
The
legislation
will
allow
the
local
governments
to
public
their
notices
digitally
and
it
promotes
transparency
and
efficiency.
L
L
I
can
say
today
that
we
have
the
support
of
the
Boone
Campbell
and
Kenton
fiscal
courts,
the
Northern
Kentucky
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
transit
authority
of
Northern,
Kentucky
Boone,
County
circuit
clerk
planning
and
development
services
of
Kenton
County
Campbell
County,
Economic
progress,
Authority
Northern,
Kentucky
Triad
economic
services
and
the
Northern
Kentucky
Port
Authority
and
with
the
sub
the
Kentucky
press.
Association
I
will
now
turn
this
just
briefly
over.
If
there
are
no
questions,
I
can
turn
it
over
briefly
to
my
guests.
Otherwise,
I
would
can.
M
So
since
Northern
link,
Northern
Kentucky
was
established,
we
had
one
goal
and
one
mission
that
was
to
bring
information
and
transparency
to
the
people
of
Northern
Kentucky.
We
have
10
full-time
editorial
staff,
members
in
our
Newsroom
22
contributors,
providing
anything
from
city
and
county
coverage
to
local
sports
to
events
of
public
notice.
When
the
community
recorder
paper
shuttered
in
early
of
2022,
it
was
not
our
goal
to
stand
in
as
paper
of
record,
but
we
filled
that
void
to
provide
transparency,
communication
and
efforts
to
our
community.
M
So
this
HB
534,
when
we've
worked
together
with
the
counties
and
the
cities,
the
Kentucky
press
Association,
it
helps
modernize
and
move
government
a
little
bit
faster,
more
efficiently
and
more
transparently.
So
we
are
I'm
very
proud
to
stand
with
our
legislative
members.
Today,
our
County
officials
in
the
Kentucky
press
Association
to
move
forward
with
its
Passage.
N
Sure
other
than
just
a
full
support
of
it
and
I
think,
regardless
of
who
the
entity
is
or
what
the
entity
is
for
our
newspaper
of
record,
the
idea
being
that
this
is
a
it's
all
about
transparency
and
efficiency,
so
that
we
can
do
get
more
word
out
to
the
public.
They
can
be
more
aware,
do
it
less
expensively
and
make
sure
that
that
is
a
model.
That's
quite
frankly.
Well
should
support,
and
probably
we
should
have
worked
on
this
a
decade
ago.
So
it's
very,
very
needed
and
would
appreciate
your
support
very.
P
P
The
Kentucky
Post
was
the
afternoon
paper
and
then
each
County
had
a
weekly,
the
Boone,
Kenton
and
Campbell
County
Recorder
just
goes
to
show
you
what
what's
happening
in
the
world
of
of
newspapers
and
and
news
Gathering
and
news
reporting
link
has
done
a
great
job
of
filling
that
role.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
it
get
even
bigger,
as
the
as
the
years
go
by
so
representative
Dietz
I
appreciate
you
bringing
the
bill
and
Mr
chairman
I'd
move
that
house
bill
534
be
reported,
favorably
motion
same
Shall
Pass.
We.
B
Have
a
motion
and
a
second,
but
we
have
a
couple
more
questions:
Senator
Williams
and
then
yes,
so
I
fully
support
this
and
I
think
I
mean.
A
Yes,
I
I
do
support
it,
I
I'm,
looking
forward
to
connecting
Northern
Kentucky
with
the
rest
of
connect
Kentucky,
as
does
my
district.
However,
I
do
have
a
question
for
my
other
four
counties
up
here,
and
it
really
has
to
do
with
on
page
five,
eight
here
qualified
paper
and
substituting
County
and
taking
out
publication
area
and
paid
circulation.
A
My
concern
is
everywhere
else
here
we
talk
about
the
you
know,
the
the
publication
area
and
the
local
government.
Here
we
ship
back
to
County,
and
so
my
concern
is
that
this
may
affect
a
County
that
is
not
over
80
000,
because
the
the
local
government
is
limited,
80,
000,
so
I'm
concerned
about
some
of
the
smaller
counties
and
the
smaller
local
papers,
and
this
may
have
an
impact
upon
them.
Is
that
am
I
misreading
it
or
how
are
they
not
included
in
that
answer?.
L
Senator
Williams,
thank
you.
This
was
part
of
the
agreement
that
we
reached
with
the
Kentucky
press
Association.
So
this
was
verbiage
they
wanted.
It
actually
is
going
to
protect
some
of
the
smaller
papers,
so
we
left
the
80
000
in
there
and
it's
really
for
paper
of
Records.
So
there
were
two
smaller
media
sources.
They
were
worried
about
one
out
of
Louisville
and
one
out
of
Davies
County.
L
When
we
looked
at
those
one
was
wouldn't
have
met
the
qualifications,
it
was
a
Blog
only
the
other
one
would
have
been
competing
with
the
Louisville
Courier
Journal,
so
it
wouldn't
have
been
applicable
to
them.
So
this
was
protective
language
that
actually
the
Press
asked
for
so
I.
Don't
think
this
is
going
to
do
any
damage
to
the
smaller
newspapers.
A
I
know
they
don't
I'm
I'm
still
not
convinced
it
won't.
So
maybe
we
can
talk
about
this
later
again,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
substitution
of
County,
instead
of
local
government,
isn't
having
some
unintended
side
effect
here.
Okay,.
L
L
P
You,
madam
chair
I,
think
I
can
help
allay
Senator
nemus's
concern
the
executive
director
of
the
Kentucky
press.
Association
is
a
neighbor
of
mine
and
he
reached
out
over
the
weekend
to
tell
me
that
they
support
this
bill
and
I'm
pretty
sure
they
wouldn't
support
it.
If
it
was
going
to
have
a
deleterious
effect
on
small
newspapers
and
isn't
this
written
just
particularly
for
Boone
Kenton
and
Campbell
County
in
Northern
Kentucky,
or
is
this
the
only
place
affected
by
it?
This.
L
Q
B
D
A
I'm
also
going
to
vote
I,
but
I
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
Kentucky
press
Association.
At
the
request
of
one
of
my
local
County
newspapers,.
B
I
House
Bill
534
passes
with
favorable
expression.
Eight
zero
same
show
pass
on
the
senate
floor.
We
will
leave
this
off
the
consent
since
there's
a
couple
questions
to
be
answered
here
possibly,
and
we
will
move
on
this
moves
on
to.
A
I
B
This
is:
has
the
191.
B
R
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
and
Ladies
and
Gentlemen
of
the
committee.
It's
a
privilege
to
be
in
front
of
you
today
with
House
Bill
191
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself
as
representative
Jared
ballman
from
house
district
28,
and
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself
state.
R
All
right
and
I'm
also
very
glad
to
report
that
this
house
bill
191
passed
unanimously
on
the
house
floor
a
couple
weeks
ago.
The
sub
just
clears
up
some
language
for
the
clerks
to
ensure
that
we
hold
the
election
on
a
Tuesday
and
helps
them
with
what
they
need
to
determine
ballot
position
for
the
special
election.
R
So
House
Bill
191
is
going
to
move
the
appointment
process
in
Louisville
Metro
Government
when
we
have
a
vacancy
on
Metro
Council
to
a
special
election
process,
and
this
is
very
much
desired
across
the
council
across
the
county
and
across
this
general
assembly
in
a
bipartisan
way.
R
As
I
mentioned,
it
passed
unanimously
on
the
house
floor
and
one
of
your
colleagues
Senator
Yates,
who
is
a
former
president
of
Louisville
Metro
Council,
also
supports
this
measure,
and
so,
if
there
are
no
questions,
I
would
like
to
let
representative
Works
make
some
statements
as
well.
S
Thank
you,
representative
Bowman,
so
today,
I
just
wanted
to
keep
my
remarks
brief,
but
this
is
a
bipartisan
bill
in
an
effort
to
ensure
that
our
constituents
have
a
voice
and
who
is
elect,
who
is
representing
them
on
the
Metro
Louisville
Metro
Council.
S
S
During
that
time,
I
had
witnessed
the
appointment
process
up
close
and
personal
had
seen
several
constituents
not
served
well
by
it
and
what
ultimately,
the
voters
and
after
the
most
recent,
a
round
of
appointment
processes
had
asked
for
it
to
look
different.
That
urge
became
stronger.
This
has
been
around
for
a
long
time,
but
we
continue
to
hear
more
and
more
people
who
want
this
measure.
So
this
is
a
great
first
step
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
more
democratic
process
to
bring
our
electeds
back
to
actually
being
elected.
Very.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
representative,
Bauman
representative
roarks,
good,
to
see
you
freshman
legislators
of
opposite
parties
before
the
committee
today,
representative,
rocks
I
have
a
question
for
you.
I
think
this
is
a
good
bill,
but
I
just
have
a
question
for
you.
Since
you
worked
in
Louisville
Metro
Council
are
the
candidates
who
run
for
Louisville
Metro
Council?
Are
they
nonpartisan
or
do
they
run
according
to
their
party
affiliation
in
the
in
the
great
city
of
Louisville,.
S
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
do
run
on
a
partisan
ticket
yeah.
D
The
floor
is,
there
is
a
second
from
Senator
nemus
and
your
question.
It's
more
of
a
comment.
I
wanted
to
welcome
the
two
rookies
to
the
to
the
state
and
not
miss
works.
You
have
a
house
seat
that
I
used
to
have
and
I
drink
coffee
there
at
sister
beans.
Quite
often
so
thank
you.
Okay,.
B
D
B
Very
good
House
Bill
191
as
com
as
amended
by
committee
sub,
passes
with
favorable
expression.
Nine
zero
and
same
shall
pass
on
to
the
senate
floor.
Is
there
interest
in
consent?
We
have
a
motion
for
consent,
a
second
from
Senator
neimas,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
your
bill
moves
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
Thank
you
both
for
being
here.
Thank.
B
B
P
B
O
O
O
Today
we
want
to
talk
about
this
bill
that
contains
some
language
that
helps
clear
up,
clarify
some
of
the
intent
from
prior
bills,
correct
some
unintended
consequences
and
expand
our
efforts
to
ensure
our
elections
are
fair
and
transparent.
If
you'll
permit
me
I'll
go
through
each
change
in
the
bill.
B
Okay,
section
two
has
is
the
part
where
it
moves
the
it
says:
the
County
Board
of
Elections
May
petition
the
Secretary
of
State
to
allow
consolidation
of
precincts
or
consolidations
of
voting
locations,
and
that
is
that
is
the
change
from
the
State
Board
of
Elections,
and
that
was
part
of
a
what
I
consider
a
very
important
issue
amongst
our
caucus,
and
it
was
something
that
we
determined
at
our
caucus
Retreat.
B
That
was
a
main
focus
of
our
of
our
caucus
to
have
one
person,
that's
going
to
approve
voter
locations
and
that's
going
to
be
the
Secretary
of
State
in
this
sub.
If
there's
anybody
else
that
would
like
to
comment
on
that
Senator
Thayer.
P
P
Then
there
are
some
people
who
want
to
leave
it
exactly
as
it
is.
I
met
with
the
clerks
earlier
this
session.
P
The
wish,
on
their
part,
is
to
keep
the
voting
Center
model,
so
I
thought
a
good
compromise
was
to
bring
in
an
elected
official
who's,
won
a
Statewide
election
on
the
matter
of
integrity
and
elections
and
put
that
person
in
charge
of
the
final
sign-off
rather
than
the
Board
of
Elections,
which
none
of
those
members
have
stood
for
election
representative
Decker,
representative
branscome
you'll.
P
Remember
there
was
a
meeting
in
my
office
on
January
24th
that
included
the
two
of
you
chairman,
Mills
myself,
representative
branscome
and
Senator
Higdon,
where
we
agreed
to
that
very
provision
along
with
language.
That's
in
the
committee
sub
dealing
with
withdrawal,
withdrawal
and
disqualified
candidates.
We
had
that
issue
in
this
past
election
and
a
few
races
where
people
got
on
the
ballot
after
the
primary
and
then
we
also
talked
about
the
the
loophole
and
the
law
that
would
that
allows
electioneering
on
the
early
voting
days.
P
So
we
put
the
word
entrance
back
in
as
the
threshold
for
electioneering
instead
of
property
line
and
parking
lot.
So
that
was
the
agreement
that
we
had
on
January
24th
I
have
notes
from
the
meeting
that
the
six
of
us
agreed
to
those
Provisions.
So
I
put
those
back
in
in
the
committee
sub
and
I
know
that
the
clerks
don't
like
it,
but
we
get
to
set
policy
and
they
implement
it.
I've
certainly
taken
their
considerations
up
for
consideration.
P
O
The
next
change
was
an
oversight
from
last
year,
where
we
did
not
include
no
electioneering
at
any
place
where
election
officers
were
training
during
that
training
site,
we
want
to
ensure
that
they
receive
unbiased
training,
and
so
that
is
now
prohibited.
The
next
provision
regards
the
candidate
eligibility
in
general
elections.
Currently
there
is
a
a
provision,
that's
known
as
the
sore
loser,
so
you
cannot
run
in
the
same
election
after
you
have
lost
a
primary.
O
We
realize
that
there
is
a
problem
when
the
person
who
won
the
Primary
withdraws
from
the
race.
It
may
well
be
that
the
political
party
who
is
going
to
replace
that
person
on
the
ballot
Ops
for
the
person
who
lost
the
primary
so
that
will
now
be
allowed.
The
next
change
deals
with
the
replacement
of
candidates.
In
general,
it
clarifies
that
when
a
candidate
withdraws
or
is
removed
from
the
ballot
after
the
primary,
but
before
10
days
prior
to
the
certification
of
the
candidates,
they
may
be
replaced
on
the
ballot.
O
O
O
The
next
change
clarifies
that,
if
a
can,
if
a
elected
official
is
charged
with
an
Ethics
violation,
this
bill
adds
that
the
legal
services
in
matters
before
the
legislative
ethics
commission
can
be
paid
for
by
campaign
expenses
if
the
by
campaign
funds.
If
the
candidate
is
victorious
in
the
ethics
hearing,
the
LA
the
there
is
a
change
that
currently
political
parties
must
file
reports.
O
K
I,
thank
you
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
committee.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
to
in
front
of
you
for
Hospital
302.
You
know
over
the
past
two
years
this
this
legisl,
this
legislature
has
passed,
sweeping
and
extensive
election
reform
here
in
Kentucky.
This
bill
is
less
expansive
than
what
we've
seen
over
the
past
two
sessions
and
it
does
address.
As
representative
Decker
has
mentioned,
some
concerns
and
challenges,
and
some
of
the
suggestions
that
have
been
brought
up.
K
One
of
the
main
things
I
think
you'll
notice
in
this
bill
is
that
there's
been
this
bill's
had
very
minimal
impact
on
our
County
clerks
and
our
State
Board
of
Elections
and
I
think
that's
essential
that
we
allow
our
clerks
and
the
State
Board
to
focus
on
implementing
the
policies
that
we
put
in
place
over
the
past
couple
years
and
essentially
kind
of
let
them
catch
their
breath
and
let
what
we've
done
the
past
couple
years
start
taking
form
our
work
with
election
reform.
It's
it's
never
over.
K
It
will
continue
and
we'll
keep
taking
incremental
steps
to
improve
this
process
and
I
appreciate
representative
Decker
and
also
a
representative
Rachel
Roberts,
who
couldn't
be
here
with
us
today
for
just
allowing
me
to
tag
along
on
the
bill.
So
thank
you.
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
D
Yes,
on
Section
3
3A,
it
used
to
be
that
you
had
to
be
100
feet
away
from
the
entrance
now
it
says
100
feet
away
from
the
building
and
it
says
property
land.
So
it's
that
100
feet
from
the
property
line
or
the
building
of
the
property
I.
D
K
T
So
good
morning,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
and
thank
you
for
the
work
that
this
committee
and
the
senate
in
the
house
has
put
in
over
the
last
few
years
with
election
changes.
We
certainly
appreciate
that
support
and
in
regards
to
House
Bill
302,
the
election
cleanup
Bill.
We
support
this
bill
as
it
was
approved
in
the
house,
particularly
what
the
clerk
strongly
support
is
extending
our
electioneering
prohibitions
to
include
the
absentee
voting.
T
We
think
that
that
is
much
needed,
certainly
was
an
oversight,
and
one
that
we
want
to
make
sure
is
clear
to
our
constituents
and
voters
requiring
the
Attorney
General
General's
office
to
share
with
clerks
any
finding
from
the
post-election
audits
is
important
to
us.
We
want
to
know
what
those
findings
were
and
try
to
improve
upon
anything
that
we
need
to
or
highlight
the
things
that
were
done
well,
including
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
sufficient
parking.
T
We
know
that
this
has
been
a
concern
for
some
of
the
locations
that
have
been
selected
in
the
state.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
addressed
as
well.
Finally,
we
do
not
support
giving
the
the
Secretary
of
State's
sole
approval
over
the
county
election
plans.
We
do
support
maintaining
the
current
system,
which
requires
the
approval
of
the
bipartisan
State
Board
of
Elections,
which
now
includes
two
retired
clerks,
three
Democrat
members,
three
Republican
members
and
is
chaired
by
the
Secretary
of
State.
The
current
system
of
approval
works.
T
T
So
the
more
eyes
we
have
on
these
plans
I
think
the
better
the
more
involvement
we
have
to
perfect
them
and
make
them
as
best
as
they
can
be,
would
be
ideal
in
Kentucky,
we've
definitely
developed
a
distributed
bipartisan
system
of
election
Administration,
in
which
no
one
person,
not
at
the
county
clerk
level
nor
the
secretary
of
state
level,
can
exercise
too
much
control
or
power
over
our
election
process.
T
We
also
built
in
bipartisanship
by
requiring
both
Democrats
and
Republicans
at
each
voting
location
when
they're
they're,
serving
as
our
election
officers
on
our
County
Board
of
Elections
and
on
our
State
Board
of
Elections,
a
given
giving
the
elected
Secretary
of
State
no
matter
who's
holding
the
office.
This
isn't
anything
particular
with
secretary
Adams.
We
appreciate
secretary
Adams,
but
having
that
approval
process
is
and
power
is
contrary
to
this
long-standing
system
that
we've
had
in
place
of
election
Administration.
T
That
has
served
our
state
very
well
additionally,
with
the
committee
sub,
there's
not
an
appeal
process.
So
if
there
was
the
opportunity
for
the
secretary
to
deny
the
plan,
there's
not
the
opportunity
for
the
county
clerk
or
the
County
Board
of
Elections
to
come
back
and
appeal
that
process.
So
that's
something
that
that
we
wanted
to
point
out
today.
T
Additionally,
with
some
recent
rulings
from
the
executive's
branch
ethics
commission,
it's
quite
likely
that
the
commission
would
rule
that
giving
such
power
to
the
Secretary
of
State
would
create
a
conflict
of
interest
when
the
secretary
is
on
the
ballot.
So
we
want
to
bring
that
concern
forward
as
well.
This
year,
several
Counties
have
modified
their
plans
from
what
they
used
last
year.
This
isn't
a
surprise
to
us,
since
it
was
the
first
time
that
Kentucky
post
pandemic
have
had
the
opportunity
to
create
plans
and
have
three
days
of
early
voting
for
our
voters.
T
Counties
will
continue
to
refine
these
plans
over
the
next
several
years
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
best
experience
for
our
voters
possible.
Ultimately,
the
voters
in
each
County
will
hold
their
local
elected
officials,
their
County
clerks,
their
County
Sheriffs,
accountable
for
the
success
or
the
failure
of
these
election
plans.
Thank
you.
D
D
So
you
know,
is
it
a
good
bill
with
the
committee
sub,
even
though
you
don't
like
it
or
not
and
I
think
it's
it's
good
that
someone
has
the
final
say
because
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
County
Clerk,
not
a
lot
but
can
be
a
county
clerk
that
just
takes
the
easy
way
out
that
we
just
can't
accept.
So
can
you
answer
that.
T
So
I
certainly
think
that
you
know
we.
We
just
feel
strongly
that
the
board,
the
State
Board
having
more
eyes
on
the
plans
and
having
that
approval
process
is
important.
That's
a
public
meeting
where
the
public
can
attend.
County
clerks
can
attend.
Our
legislators
can
attend
those
meetings
and
the
secretary
sits
on
the
board
as
chair
of
the
board.
So
definitely
has
a
say
in
in
the
plans
at
that
at
that
level.
So
we
would
like
to
continue
to
see
that
happen.
Well,.
T
B
P
P
I
told
you
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
want
to
blow
up
this
voting
Center
model.
This
is
a
compromise
and
I'm
told
that,
right
now
there
is
one
person
making
the
decision,
the
executive
director
of
the
State
Board
of
Elections
who's,
not
elected,
and
that
the
board
just
goes
along
with
it
eight
to
nothing.
P
P
B
And
I
want
to
confirm
again
what
what
I
said
at
the
beginning
that
this
is.
You
know
we
talk
about
policy
decisions
as
a
caucus
and
as
individuals.
This
is
a
major
policy
decision
that
we've
had
input
from
our
caucus
on
and
feel
like.
This
is
the
best
way
to
move
forward
and
that's
why
the
committee
sub
is
the
way
that
it
is.
Are
there
any
other
questions,
Madam
Clerk,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
from
Senator
Thayer.
Is
there
a
second
from
Senator
McDaniel,
Madam
clerk?
Please
call
the
road.
U
Q
Mr
chairman
Casper
I
vote
and
explained
yes,
you
may
you
know
I
guess
this
is
one
of
those
situations
that
I
like
for
this
bill
than
I.
Don't
I
do
believe
our
County
clerks
do
a
wonderful
job.
Q
I
would
probably
prefer
to
get
back
more
to
a
Precinct
model
myself,
but
you
know
this
is
I.
Guess
where
we're
at
now,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
I
do
you
know:
I
have
a
constituent
that
is
on
the
board
of
elections.
That
I
think
does
a
great
job
and
I've
not
seen
any
problems
with
the
way
the
current
setup
is
working,
but,
as
commented
by
a
cinder
storm,
this
is
a
legislative
process
and
therefore
I'm
going
to
vote
I
had
to
keep
the
conversation
going.
A
Like
to
explain
my
I
vote,
I
also
gotten
called
some
clerks
and
they
are
elected
officials
and
the
principal
that
elected
officials
have
ultimate
says
in
their
counties
stands
at
the
state
levels
too.
I
think
this
is
sort
of
sharing
power
between
two
sets
of
elected
officials,
and
there
are
other
things
in
this
bill
as
well.
That
I
think
everybody
agrees
should
happen.
So
that's
why
I'm
voting
I.
B
B
If
there
are
not
any
other
business,
we
will
probably
have
one
other
committee
this
week,
probably
win
our
regular
Wednesday
noon
committee
meeting,
so
we
stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.