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A
A
Presence
so
before
we
get
started,
please
put
your
phones
on
mute
and
that's
always
a
signal
for
me
to
do
that
and
when
you
speak,
make
sure
your
green
light's
on
your
microphone
into
our
guests.
The
same
thing
you
all
have
the
same
microphones.
We
have
okay,
some
rules
on
this
committee.
A
D
Thank
you,
chairman
I,
want
to
recognize
my
intern
Layla.
She
is
a
senior
at
Eastern,
Kentucky
University,
where
she
is
pursuing
a
degree
in
criminal
justice
and
philosophy.
So
I
just
ask
you
all
to
make
sure
you
welcome
her
and
be
nice
to
her
when
you
see
her
in
the
house.
Thank
you.
E
A
E
She's,
can
you
stand
up
quickly
there?
She
is
all.
A
Give
her
and
representative
Heron's
intern
a
hand,
foreign.
Thank
you
guys.
It's
great
to
see
young
faces
coming
up
interested
in
the
process.
Anybody
else
all
right,
so
we
have
I,
have
a
special
guest
but
she'll
be
they'll,
be
coming
up
after
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
will
be
an
update
from
the
State
Board
of
Elections
and
we
have
Karen
sellers,
Richard
house
and
Taylor
Brown.
Please
come
forward
and
tell
us
the
great
news
you
have.
G
And
I'll
take
this
I
want
to
say
again
good
morning
and
thank
you
all
on
behalf
of
the
members
of
the
Kentucky
State
Board
of
Elections
and
the
staff
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
all
in
the
next
several
days,
the
Kentucky
State
Board
of
Elections,
an
independent
agency
of
state
government,
will
be
undertaking
two
vital
steps
to
take
to
clean
up
Kentucky's
voter
rolls.
These
actions
are
required
to
be
performed
by
the
board
according
to
both
federal
and
state
statute.
G
End
quote:
registration
and
purgation,
or
jobs
that
go
hand
in
hand
following
the
law,
the
voter
registration
system
or
vrs
as
we
refer
to
it,
is
the
electronic
system
established,
operated,
supervised
and
supported
solely
by
the
State
Board
of
Elections.
This
system
is
key
to
tracking
the
voter
registrations
of
all
eligible
voters
in
the
Commonwealth.
G
The
progression
of
ineligible
registrations
is
what
I'd
like
to
speak
to
you
about
right
here
right
now,
this
Friday,
the
Kentucky
State
Board
of
Elections,
will
remove
approximately
127
000
ineligible
registrations
from
the
state's
voter.
Rolls
I'll
break
that
down
by
party
a
little
bit
for
you.
It's
approximately
sixty
thousand
Democratic
registrations,
51
000
Republican,
just
under
4,
000
Independents
and
just
under
12
000
of
other
registrations.
G
A
distribution
is
not
unexpected,
given
the
historic
registration
numbers
and
Trends
we've
seen
throughout
the
state.
Now,
the
number
127
000
may
seem
large
at
first
blush
But.
Please
understand
that
because
the
statutory
process
was
neglected
by
previous
regimes
for
so
long.
This
is
a
first
time
progression
or
Purge.
If
you
will
of
Voters
in
this
statutorily
required
manner
that
has
taken
place
since
2015
and
only
the
third
time
it
has
occurred
in
nearly
a
decade.
G
This
process
in
2019
set
a
start
date
for
those
voters.
An
example
of
the
postcards
we
sent
can
be
found
on
the
state
board's
website.
That's
elect.ky.gov,
but
I'd
like
to
briefly
describe
them
to
you.
The
postcards
tell
the
identified
person
that
the
state
board
has
received
information
that
their
address
on
the
voter
on
the
voter
registration
may
be
different
than
what
other
Public
public
records
reflect.
G
G
2019
then
ceased
to
be
a
start
date
for
these
voters,
and
they
may
continue
to
vote
as
normal.
The
vast
majority,
however,
of
postcards
in
2019,
were
returned
to
us
by
the
post
office
as
undeliverable
for
those
registrations.
2019
continued
to
be
a
start
date
following
the
law.
State
board
didn't
track
these
registrations
with
the
2019
start
date
for
the
next
two
Federal
elections,
that
being
2020
and
2022..
G
If
the
vrs
system
was
not
touched
in
any
way
by
the
voter
or
they
didn't
show
up
to
vote,
the
2019
start
date
remained
now.
Let
me
be
clear:
you
cannot
be
removed
from
Kentucky's
voter
rolls
simply
by
not
showing
up
to
vote
if
you
registered
five
years
ago
and
have
not
moved
since
you
are
not
subject
to
removal
under
this
process.
G
Both
are
controlling
state
and
federal
laws.
Regarding
voter
list
maintenance
state
that
all
programs
aim
to
clean
up
voter
rolls
need
to
be
completed
at
least
90
days
before
an
election
next
Wednesday
as
I'm
sure
many
in
this
room
know
will
be
90
days
before
May's
primary
in
order
to
make
sure
our
analysis
is
as
thorough
as
possible
and
we
do
fully
analyze
all
of
the
data
we
have
held
off
initiating
this
purge
until
almost
as
late
as
possible.
G
G
G
G
In
closing,
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
share
information
about
the
work
that
the
State
Board
is
doing
to
clean
up
the
Commonwealth's
photo
roles.
Kentucky
has
long
shown
itself
to
be
a
leader
in
elections,
and
all
those
involved
at
the
state
level
have
continued
to
demonstrate
that
in
recent
years,
through
bipartisan
cooperation
from
the
state
board,
the
Secretary
of
State,
the
governor
and
this
General
Assembly,
the
Commonwealth
has
emerged
from
the
covid-19
pandemic
as
a
trendsetter
for
what
can
be
accomplished
at
the
state
level.
A
Thank
you
Taylor
appreciate
that
I
think
you
know
that
this
is
something
I
know.
The
secretary
of
state
has
really
put
in
the
Forefront
and
it's
great
to
see
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
and
State
Board
of
Elections
working
together
for
what
I
think
this
is
a
good
A,
A
good
measure,
representative
Raymond.
H
Thank
you,
I
heard
you
talk
about
clean
roles,
the
opposite
of
that
I
guess
would
be
dirty
roles.
Dirty
rolls
don't
necessarily
equate
to
fraud.
We
have
no
evidence
that
there's
been
fraud
in
elections
in
Kentucky
I
wanted
to
ask
you
in
your
own
words,
why
this
is
a
necessary
process.
G
If
I
may
I
think
it
goes
back
to
something
I
briefly
highlighted
I
mean
all
one
has
to
do
is
look
at
the
the
census
numbers
to
see
that
we
have
more
citizens
or
excuse
me
more
registrations
than
citizens
according
to
the
census
that
are
over
18.,
and
so
it's
just
patently
obvious
that
the
voter
rolls
are
inflated
are
bloated
and
I.
Think
that's
a
reflection
of
the
process
not
being
followed
as
it
should
have
been
every
year
for
the
last
decade.
I
Yes,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
you
all
for
that
work
and
applaud
your
results
and
applaud
your
goal
on
having
the
cleanest
voter
roles
in
the
Nations
I.
Think
that's
a
tremendous
progress.
We
know
before
this.
The
math
indicated
there
was
something
like
90
000,
more
registered
voters
than
human
beings
over
age
18
in
Kentucky,
so
this
should
close
that
Gap
and
get
us
on
the
right
path.
G
Yes,
representative,
thank
you
for
that.
It
is
in-house.
The
State
Board
of
Elections
has
a
I.T
team
that
totally
oversees
the
the
vrs
system.
It
works
in
conjunction
with
the
county
clerks,
the
county,
clerks
or
the
I
guess
the
the
field
level
operators
of
the
vrs,
but
the
State
Board
oversees.
I
That,
yes,
could
you
speak
for
a
moment
about
the
security
on
that
system
for
International
evildoers?
Somebody
want.
G
To
get
in
not
too
much
because
of
the
sensitive
nature,
but
I
I
would
be
happy
to
say
that
it
is
separate
than
the
rest
of
the
Commonwealth
cot
systems.
G
It
has
yeah
if
I
can
speak
for
our
RIT
director
who's,
not
here
I
think
he
would
say
that
it's
world-class
security
that
we
have
in
fact,
I
believe
the
ncso's
here
as
well
and
is
going
to
speak
after
us
and
I,
don't
know
if
they
want
to
touch
on
this
or
not,
but
it's
again
a
example
of
Kentucky
being
a
leader.
We've
actually
been
asked
to
present
about
our
vrs
system
and
its
security
measures
to
other
states.
It's.
G
A
Anyone
else
okay,
represent
Vice,
chair
Galloway
and
then
representative
Russell.
C
Webber,
thank
you,
appreciate,
y'all,
coming
giving
this
information
I'm
assuming
this
and
just
wanted
to
confirm
I
when,
when
y'all
do
this
there'll
be
a
breakdown
of
that
and
will
that
show
a
breakdown
by
county.
C
Be
interesting
to
see
that,
and
do
you
have
an
example
that
you
could
briefly
share
that
would
say
as
to
why
this
is
important
for
elections
in
regard
to
making
sure
that
they
are
clean.
G
I
can
give
you
a
hypothetical
I,
don't
have
a
a
real
life
that
I
want
to
point
out,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
communities
of
good
size
along
the
Ohio
River
Northern,
Kentucky
Louisville,
on
down
to
Davis,
County
and
Paducah,
and
a
lot
of
those
communities
have
residents
that
will
switch
back
and
forth
sides
of
the
river
you're
on
the
Kentucky
side.
One
day,
the
Ohio
Indiana
side,
the
next
and
a
lot
of
people
think
that
well
I
got
my
driver's
license
switched.
My
voter
registration
is
Switched.
G
That's
a
common
misconception,
it's
not
the
case,
so
you
could
have
someone
living
in
Kenton
County,
for
example,
or
Boone
County,
or
one
of
our
Northern
Kentucky
counties
that
moves
to
Hamilton
County
they've
got
that
registration
just
floating
around
in
Northern
Kentucky.
Maybe
they
have
no
intentions
of
coming
back
to
Kentucky
at
all
and
they
think
that
this
registration
has
been
taken
care
of,
but
it
hasn't
and
that's
what
I
I
don't
mean
to
speak
for
lawmakers,
but
I
believe
that's
what
these
statutes
were
intended
to
to
achieve.
Good.
J
You
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
You
may
get
tired
of
the
examples
that
I
give
from
Bullitt
County,
but
I've
got
another
one.
Today
my
son
and
daughter-in-law
moved
to
Indiana
in
2019.
I
just
checked
a
few
minutes
ago.
They
are
both
still
registered
voters
in
Kentucky
they've
been
voting
in
Indiana
since
I
think
the
2020
election.
So
what
is
the
process
that
myself
or,
if
I'm,
not
allowed
to
do
that?
J
Someone
would
go
through
to
notify
election
authorities
that
you
know
you've
got
two
registered
voters
who
are
now
voting
in
another
state.
They've,
never
returned
to
this
state
to
vote.
They've
been
gone
for
four
years
now,
I'm
assuming
they
would
have
gotten
postcards
as
well
and
at
what
point
you
know
was
that,
were
those
cards
returned
to
you,
I,
don't
think
they're
supposed
to
be
forwarded?
Are
they
no
they're?
Not
okay.
So
can
you
kind
of
Enlighten
us
on
what
that
process
would
look
like.
G
Sure
so,
there's
multiple
layers
to
that.
In
the
example
you've,
given
your
children
can
take
it
upon
themselves
to
contact
Kentucky,
anybody
can
take
it
upon
themselves
to
contact
Kentucky,
even
without
a
move
and
say
I,
don't
want
to
be
a
registered
voter
in
the
State
anymore
and
we'll
handle
that
the
other
Avenue
is
it's
through
the
Consortium
that
Kentucky
belongs
to
now.
It's
called
Eric,
it's
the
electronic
resource,
information
center,
32
states
and
the
District
of
Columbia.
Do
you
want
to
go
in
okay
and
one
of
the
things
we
do
with
them?
G
Is
we
compare
with
other
states?
You
know
that
we've
got
John
Doe
Social
Security.
One
two
three
looks
like
you:
Indiana
have
social
security
or
John
Doe
social
security
number
one
two
three
as
well,
and
then
we
have
a
process
to
work
on
to
see,
in
fact,
is
that
the
same
person
notify,
like
you
said,
send
mailings
and
then
there's
a
whole
process
for
that
as
well.
G
It's
it
goes
back
a
little
bit
to
I
know
it
can
be
frustrating
at
times
that
not
just
automatically
removed,
but
it
goes
back
to
the
zero
error
rate
that
we're
striving
for
here.
So
as
much
as
and
I
know,
it
can
be
frustrating
I.
I
get
mail
for
the
four
people
that
lived
at
my
house
before
I
did
right.
G
It's
it's
frustrating
for
people
to
to
have
other
names
associated
with
their
address,
but
that's
we're
letting
the
process
play
out
as
the
law
describes
and
I
I
would
be
interested
to
see
if
these
two
names
do
come
off
after
Friday
I'd
like
to
get
back
with
you
on
that.
A
Well,
thank
you
guys.
Karen
Richard
and
Taylor
appreciate
this
update
and
we'll
see
you
in
two
weeks
on
the
audit
risk
pilot
program
and
also
we're
going
to
have
some
questions
on
Eric
that
day
too,
because
we're
getting
do
your
homework
on
Eric,
because
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
questions
on
that.
Some
people
are
saying
that
that
thing
goes
out
of
bounds,
sometimes
and
I
want
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
that.
If
you
don't
mind
in
two
weeks,
we'll
see
you
guys.
A
We
have
special
guests
from
the
ncsl
Wendy
Underhill
and
her
new
Deputy
I.
Guess:
okay,
she's
not
coming
up
so
Wendy.
Thank
you
for
coming
you.
You
are
you're
the
director
of
elections
in
the
redistricting
and
the
ncsl
and
I
know
you
do
a
great
job.
I've
worked
with
you
before,
and
it's
very
bipartisan,
it's
it's!
They.
A
K
I'm
sorry
I
thought
it
was
on
and
so
I'm
I
apologize,
okay,
so
I'm
Wendy,
Underhill
National
Conference
of
state
legislators.
It
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here
today.
I
want
you
all
to
know
that
representative
bratcher
serves
as
an
officer
for
ncsl
as
redistricting
an
election
standing
committee,
and
it
is
a
pleasure
to
work
with
him
on
that.
K
So
for
those
of
you
who
might
not
know,
we
are
in
fact
bipartisan
in
the
way
our
institution
is
structured
and
that
the
work
that
we
do
is
all
non-partisan
and
I
appreciate
you
making
comments
about
that.
The
bread
and
butter
work
that
we
do
is
to
support
legislators
and
legislative
staff
throughout
the
nation,
and
we
do
that
through
a
variety
of
ways.
K
Let's
see
if
I
can
and
there's
sort
of
a
list
of
those
things
I'm
a
policy
research
person
so
that
first
bullet
there
is
is
us
we
have
colleagues
who
are
like
me,
who
can
do
health
or
criminal
justice
or
any
other
topic.
So
if
you
want
information
on
anything,
you're
welcome
to
come
to
me
directly
on
it
and
I
will
pass
it
on
to
the
right
person
or
if
it's
election
related
I
will
be
sure
to
get
back
to
you
as
soon
as
I
can
we
do
handle
those
requests
confidentially?
K
So,
if
that
helps
at
all-
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say,
is
that
before
I
really
get
rolling
is
that
we
do
not
offer
advice
on
what
you
all
should
do,
we'll
give
you
information
and
we'll
point
you
to
resources
or
point
you
to
experts
if
you
want
to
dig
deeper,
but
our
job
is
to
collate
information
about
what
states
are
doing
and
not
to
have
opinions
about
what
states
should
be
doing
and
on
meetings.
That's
on
the
slide
too.
K
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
are
bringing
our
big
meeting
of
the
year
to
Louisville
in
2024..
We
were
to
do
it
in
2020
in
Louisville,
but
you'll.
Remember
something
got
in
the
way
of
a
lot
of
plans
in
2020,
and
so
we're
pretty
excited
that
we're
going
to
get
the
opportunity
to
bring
6
000
people
to
your
neck
of
the
woods.
K
Okay,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
slides.
You
may
have
noticed
this.
You
probably
saw
in
your
packet,
and
you
thought,
oh,
my
goodness,
how
could
I
possibly
absorb
all
of
this?
Well,
don't
feel
you
have
to
this
is
sort
of
just
a
tasting
menu
and
anything
that
I
might
talk
about
that.
You
want
to
know
more
about.
K
You
can
ask
me
more
about
it
now
or
later
and
I
I
promise
I
will
keep
moving
right
along
and
I
want
to
give
you
Mr
chair
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
give
me
the
move
it
along.
If
you
need
to
so
I
won't
I
won't
be
offended.
If
that's
the
case,
so
the
I
have
sort
of
three
parts
here.
How.