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A
A
meeting
here-
and
this
is
meat-
number
four
of
veterans,
military,
Affairs
and
public
protection-
we're
glad
to
have
so
many
people
in
the
house
and
such
an
honor
to
serve
the
state
of
Kentucky.
We
have
a
pretty
long
agenda
and
I'm
going
to
juggle
it
around
just
a
little
bit
and
and
as
we
can
on
the
agenda.
So
what
we'll
do
is
Mr
secretary,
please
call
roll
representative.
C
D
A
Alrighty
we
do
have
a
full
agenda
and
we
have
a
few
people
that
want
to
speak
also
later
on
too.
So.
At
this
time,
I've
asked
representative
Johnson
to
go
ahead
and
lead
us
in
the
pledge.
I'm.
Sorry,
our
guest
is
going
to
lead
us
in
the
pledge
and
then
representative
Johnson.
So
please
remain
standing
through
the
prayer.
Also.
I
With
liberty
and
justice
for
all,
please
join
me
as
we
pray
dear
father.
We
do
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
come
together.
We
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
and
we
thank
you
for
those
individuals
that
are
in
this
room
that
have
served
over
their
careers
and
their
lives.
We
thank
you
for
all
that
you
give
us.
We
pray
that
you'll
guide
us
and
lead
us
and
protect
us,
and
all
that
we
do
as
we
do
your
bidding
it's
in
Jesus
name.
We
pray,
amen.
A
Alrighty,
thank
you.
We're
gonna
turn
it
over.
We
always
honor
a
distinguished
vet
and
before
we
get
started,
we
are
passing
around
it's
starting
at
representative
bojanowski.
Next
Monday
the
National
Guard
has
reached
out
to
the
House
and
Senate
vmap
meeting
our
members
to
do
a
flyover
they're
going
to
take
us
up
in
helicopters.
Next
Monday
we're
in
session
anyway
we're
hoping
it's
going
to
be
at
two
o'clock
or
a
four
o'clock
in
session
time.
This
will
be
at
10
o'clock
on
Monday
morning.
A
The
sign
up
we're
going
to
do
just
like
my
church
group
does
we're
going
to
send
it
down
this
row
and
we're
going
to
send
it
back
this
way.
So
that's
next
Monday
at
10
o'clock
and
we
will
be
doing
lunch
also
and
a
briefing
from
General
Lamberton
so
alrighty
the
floor
is
yours,
representative
Johnson
thank.
I
You
Mr
chairman,
and
it
is
my
distinguished
honor
today-
to
introduce
you
to
sheriff
Keith
Kane
Sheriff
Kane
is
a
distinguished
veteran
from
the
Marine
Corps
and
is
also
a
Vietnam
veteran
once
he
finished
his
military
career.
He
has
served
continuously
in
the
Davis
County
Sheriff's
Office,
since
1974,
where
he
was
elected,
sheriff
in
1999..
I
He
completed
six
terms
this
Sheriff
when
he
chose
to
retire
in
2021
Sheriff
Kane
holds
a
Bachelor
of
Arts
in
criminal
justice
and
a
master
of
arts
in
education.
He
is
a
two-time
past,
president
of
the
Kentucky
Sheriff's
Association,
and
has
also
served
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
national
Sheriff's
Association.
He
has
served
as
the
chairman
of
the
Kentucky
law
enforcement
Council.
I
His
many
other
Awards
and
recommendations
literally
are
too
numerous
to
recite
here,
but
I
will
finish
with
the
fact
that
he
was
inducted
into
the
Kentucky
Veterans
Hall
of
Fame
in
2022.,
if
I
literally,
if
I
read
his
accomplishments
and
his
expertise
and
and
the
different
Education
and
Training
he's
had.
You
will
understand
this
next
sentence
when
I
say
that
his
expertise
is
sought
by
associations
literally
across
the
country
and
internationally
Sheriff
Kane
is
truly
a
a
gem
for
Kentucky
to
have
living
here.
I
His
expertise
in
law
enforcement
is
boundless
in
the
reigning
in
the
remaining
few
minutes
of
his
spare
time.
When
he's
not
doing
all
that,
he
serves
on
numerous
local
and
state
and
national
boards,
but
despite
all
these
Awards
and
recognitions,
his
proudest
title
is
Papa
to
his
two
granddaughters
Alexis
and
Alyssa
Sheriff
Kane.
The
floor
is
yours,
sir.
E
Thank
you,
GJ,
and
thank
all
of
you
good
folks
for
having
me
here
today.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
honored.
I
am
humbled
and
very
appreciative.
E
I
have
said
in
this
chair,
In
This,
Very
Room
numerous
times
during
the
course
of
my
career,
but
I
told
DJ
it's
it's
really
special
for
me
to
be
here
and
not
be
in
the
middle
of
some
controversy,
because
that's
where
I
seem
to
be
I,
think
I
was
in
the
middle
of
ever
controversy
that
law
enforcement
experienced
in
the
last
48
years.
So
it's
really
good
to
be
with
you
here
on
this
note,
I
do
want
to
have
a
few
remarks
with
you
today.
E
I
I'll,
be
totally
honest
with
you
in
the
interest
of
total
disclosure.
E
Brevity
is
not
one
of
my
strong
points,
but
I
do
know
that
you,
you
have
a
full
agenda,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
my
remarks
somewhat
brief,
though
it
is
difficult
when
you're
speaking
about
something
you're,
passionate
about
to
make
the
point
that
you
want
to
make
in
just
a
very
few
minutes,
and
although
our
Focus
today
is
on
Veterans
I
think
we'd
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
also
mention
all
of
our
First
Responders
law
enforcement,
firefighters,
EMTs,
doctors,
nurses,
all
of
our
Health
Care
Professionals.
E
E
I
was
in
Israel
a
few
years
ago
and
I
recall
on
a
headstone
there,
an
inscription
that
read
death
leaves
a
heartache.
No
one
can
heal,
but
love
leaves
a
memory.
No
one
can
steal
that
memory
of
that
loved
one
will
be
with
us
always
so
the
question
then
beckons
is:
why
did
they
do
it?
Why
did
they
serve?
Why
in
the
world?
E
Would
somebody
leave
the
comfort
of
home
family
friends
travel
to
a
place
that
they
previously
never
even
knew
existed
and
willingly
give
up
their
lives
for
people
they
didn't
even
know
what
motivates
an
individual
to
do
that
I
can
tell
you
why
they
didn't
do
it.
They
didn't
do
it
in
in
pursuit
of
any
ambition.
E
E
William
Manchester,
who
was
wounded
in
combat
and
chose
to
return
to
the
fight
rather
than
be
sent
home,
suggested
even
another
motive
in
his
book
goodbye
Darkness.
He
said
this
and
I
quote
it
was
an
act
of
love.
These
men
on
the
line
were
my
family.
They
were
my
home.
They
were
closer
to
me
than
I
can
say
they
were
closer
than
any
friends.
I
had
ever
had
or
ever
would
have.
I
had
to
be
with
them,
rather
than
to
let
them
die
and
me
live
with
the
knowledge
that
I
might
have
saved
them.
E
You
see
what
sticks
with
me
today,
as
I
said
here
and
I.
Think
back
to
my
own
experiences
in
those
Triple
Canopy,
jungles
and
rice
paddies
of
Vietnam
is
not
so
much
the
pain
and
the
terror
of
War,
though
I
can
tell
you
that
I.
Remember
that.
Well
enough,
I
know
the
metallic
taste
of
fear
and
facing
the
determined
enemy
that
there's
hell
bent
on
killing.
You
I
know
that
I
get
that,
but
it's
not
what
I
choose
to
dwell
on
what
I
remember
the
most,
and
what
I
choose
to
remember
is
that.
F
E
F
E
I
had
of
Defending
my
country
and
serving
in
the
company
of
men
and
women,
like
the
veterans
all
across
this
country,
you
see
all
of
us
veterans
share
a
very
common
Bond,
whether
I
know
you
or
not.
We
have
a
special
kinship,
perhaps
Shakespeare
said
it
best
when
he
said
we
few,
we
proud
and
happy
few.
We
Band
of
Brothers
for
He,
Who
sheds
blood
with
me
this
day
shall
be
my
brother.
E
Being
willed
to
do
what
has
to
be
done,
regardless
of
the
cost
and
though
I
know,
there's
not
a
veteran
in
this
room
or
a
veteran
that
I
know
of
that
is
comfortable
with
this
term.
They
are
heroes,
each
and
every
one
of
them,
and,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
a
comfort
to
know
that
they're
out
there,
you
see
they're,
regular
people.
E
E
E
E
E
A
Thank
you
all
gentlemen.
Would
both
of
you
all
maybe
step
around
the
corner.
I.
Think
representative
Johnson
has
just
a
slight
little
presentation
for
you
and
we've
got
a
photographer
to
come
out.
A
A
All
right,
hopefully,
we
saved
you
a
seat
somewhere
there
all
right,
we're
gonna
jump
right
into
our
agenda,
because
we
got
a
pretty
lengthy
one.
We
have
about
10
or
12
people
that
are
signed
up
to
speak
I'm,
going
to
do
our
best,
we're
going
to
try
to
get
through
some
of
the
bills
that
don't
have
guest
speakers
coming
up
and
so
I'm
going
to
juggle
around
our
agenda
a
little
bit:
Cinder
deanan
Deneen
you're
up
my
friend.
We
want
to
take
care
of
our
centers
over
there.
A
A
K
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
and
committee
members
for
having
me
here
today
to
present
Senate
bill.
60.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
former
speaker
that
came
up
and
gave
a
heartwarming
speech.
That's
a
hard
act
to
follow,
but
in
this
small
bill
it
does
reach
out
to
some
of
our
active
duty
military
members
as
they
are
stationed
around
the
world
or
around
our
country.
When
it
comes
to
getting
their
motorcycle
license.
K
Currently
they
would
have
to
come
all
the
way
back
to
Kentucky
to
take
a
skills
test
and
a
Knowledge
Test.
What
this
bill
does
is
it
allows
for
them
if
they
do
take
a
safety
course
in
another
state
they
can
simply
mail
in
those
certificates
to
our
their
local
DMV
and
get
that
get
their
motorcycle
license.
A
Center
I
got
a
motion
and
a
second
I'm
in
and
I'm
assuming
you're
done
right
now.
A
All
right
members
do
we
have
any
questions
comments.
Anything.
Let's
look.
Oh,
we
got
one
from
representative
bratcher.
M
Senator
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill
a
lot
of
us
in
the
military
that
go
through
these
training.
We
go
through
more
extensive
training
on
motorcycles
than
than
the
civilian
population
offers.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill
up
so
that
it
can
be
easier
for
the
veterans
to
transition
when
they're
moving
and
deploying
to
different
places.
Thank.
K
A
L
Mr
chairman,
it's
really
just
to
say
thank
you
to
the
senator
and
the
motorcycle
group
and
to
you
Mr
chairman.
We
were
going
to
move
this
through
Transportation,
but
we're
limited
on
bills.
So
how
do
we
get
through
the
quickest
and
so
for
you
being
willing
and
the
impact
it
will
have
on
our
veterans?
Thank
you
all
for
allowing
us
to
do
some
shifts
around,
so
we
can
expedite
this
thing.
So
thank
you.
M
J
J
N
B
A
Aye
all
right
looks
like
a
past
unanimous.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
consent
over
here,
so
get
someone
to
carry
it
for
you
and
they'll
speak
highly
your
bill
I'm
sure.
So
thank.
C
A
Thank
you
committee,
good
to
see
you
all
right.
We
are
like
I,
said,
jumping
out
of
order
a
little
bit
so
representative
timony
is
Killian
here
he
is
there.
He
is
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
let
him
I
believe
there
is
someone
speaking
speaking
on
you
have
your
guest
or
so
I
just
want
to
double
check,
make
sure
they're
on
our
list
here.
A
O
O
And
chairman,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
bring
House
Bill
540
to
the
committee.
We
do
have
a
committee
sub
scribe.
A
We
got
a
motion
and
a
second,
the
representative
of
bojanesque.
You
have
a
question
on
the
sub,
or
can
we
go
ahead
and
okay,
you
want
to
adopt
it
or
go
ahead.
Yes,.
O
Ma'am,
the
original
bill
amended
KRS
statute
158-441,
and
it
added
it
changed
a
lot
of
definitions
as
it
went
down
through
as
We
examined
it
and
under
consultation
with
Eric
Kennedy
with
ksba.
We
figured
that
it
was
probably
more
appropriate
if
we
amended
KRS
statute,
158
44.14,
which
pertains
to
cooperation
of
school
personnel
with
local
and
state
law
enforcement
agencies,
as
opposed
to
recreating
a
definition
and
changing
a
bunch
of
other
aspects.
A
O
Thank
you
chairman
this.
This
bill
basically
allows
for
parochial
and
private
schools
to
enter
into
a
memorandum
of
agreement
with
local
law
enforcement
and
State
Police
to
provide
school
security
measures
under
current
statute.
O
They
are
not
allowed
to
seek
reimbursement
for
providing
for
those
services
and,
as
someone
who
has
dedicated
the
second
half
of
my
public
education
career
to
school
safety,
I
understand
that
we
address
the
issues
inside
the
schools,
but
one
of
the
things
that
is
abundantly
clear
schools
with
that
are
school
districts
with
the
highest
degree
of
school
safety
have
an
outstanding
relationship
with
their
local
law
enforcement
agencies,
and
this
definitely
goes
along
with
that.
I
would
like
to
give
Dr
Wells
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
how
this
bill
would
impact
his
school
in
particular,.
P
It
has
been
an
honor
to
partner
with
sheriff
in
Fayette
County
this
year,
we've
had
two
school
resource
officers
through
her
generosity
on
campus
and
the
difference.
The
palpable
difference
that
they
have
made
is
amazing.
Having
that
sense
of
security
on
campus
having
them
be
part
of
our
Emergency
Management
plan
has
been
second
to
none
and
just
the
relationships
that
these
folks
have
established.
Again.
It's
given
all
students,
public
private
program
that
sense
of
security
that
all
Kentucky
students
deserve.
So
I
can't
say
enough
about
the
success
this
year
and
hope
that
this
proceeds.
G
Right
we're
here
supportive
of
the
bill,
and
we
thank
every
child
should
be
able
to
have
protection
and
certainly
appreciate
this
committee.
Looking
at
this
bill,.
A
Well,
we
appreciate
you
being
here
members:
does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
comments
or
look
at
here
we're
flying
through
some
of
these
all
right,
Mr
secretary,
please
call
roll
representative.
J
J
A
All
right
motion
passes,
we
appreciate
y'all
being
here
and
get
you
out
with
some
time
for
the
rest
of
the
day
to
get
some
other
things
that
might
be
pressed
and
done.
Thank.
O
You,
chairman
and
I,
do
want
to
give
specific
recognition
to
you,
representative,
all
who
he
and
I
have
worked
on
this
pretty
closely
together
and
obviously
Sheriff
Witt
and
Mr
Wagner
had
definitely
have
been
very,
very
important
people
in
the
process.
Thank
you.
Alrighty.
A
A
Alrighty
two
down.
We
are
gonna,
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
DJ
Johnson,
you
ready
to
representative
Johnson.
If
you
could
take
take
the
seed
again.
A
Oh
you're,
a
solo
act
today,
awesome.
I
I
am
a
state
representative,
DJ,
Johnson,
13th,
District,
Davis
County
and
today
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
house,
bill
328
and
House
Bill
328.
It
was
a
measure
that
was
brought
to
me
by
some
police
officers
and
it
relates
to
the
participation
date
in
the
kppa,
the
Retirement,
Systems
and
specifically
cers,
and
these
participation
dates
actually
in
turn
impacts
the
benefits
they
receive
or
that
they're
eligible
to
receive
upon
retirement.
I
These
14
officers
in
question
sign
an
agreement
with
local
cities
to
undergo
training
with
the
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training
docjt
through
an
old
Federal
program
called
the
police
course
program.
The
benefit
to
the
city
was
that
the
cost
of
the
training
would
be
paid
for
by
the
federal
government
through
the
police
course
program,
and
then
they
would
go
on
to
serve
as
a
local
law
enforcement
members
in
different
cities
around
the
state.
I
At
the
time
these
individuals
were
promised
they
would
be
enrolled
in
the
retirement
system
at
the
beginning
of
their
training.
Much
like
any
other
police
recruit
recruit,
but
what
actually
happened
was
they
were
not
signed
in?
They
were
not
allowed
to
start
the
participation
date
until
they
completed
their
training
and
actually
started
working
for
the
local
agency.
I
Unfortunately,
in
that
process
their
benefits
were
impacted
between
the
time
they
started
their
training
and
the
time
that
they
started
working
for
the
local
agencies
benefits
changed
their
retirement
benefits
changed.
So
what
this
bill
does?
Is
it
corrects
This
Wrong
by
making
their
participation
date
the
date
they
entered
into
the
training
not
the
day
they
started
serving,
and
it
reestablishes
their
full
benefits
that
they
would
be
eligible
for.
As
of
that
date,.
A
C
Okay,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
message
from
the
Kentucky
public
pensions
Authority.
You
mentioned
14
officers,
but
then
there's
data
in
here
that
the
estimated
number
of
individuals
potentially
affected
are
89
412
active
members.
Could
you
explain
the
difference
between
the
14
officers
you
were
discussing
in
the
89.
I
000.
sure
the
language
of
the
bill
is
very
specifically
tailored
to
only
relate
to
those
14
officers
that
89
000
number
must
I'm.
Assuming
is
the
total
force
total
eligible
retirees,
but
this
bill
again
very
specifically,
is
tailored
just
to
those
14
officers.
K
Q
Q
J
N
A
Motion
passes
all
right:
we
appreciate
it
okay,
one
more
and
then
we're
going
to
get
the
topic
where
I
know
many
of
you
all
are
here
for
representative
Dawson,
you
ready.
D
Yes,
representative
Myron
Doss
at
9th
District
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
and
the
members
of
the
military
Affairs
committee.
House
Bill
65
is
legislation
that
we
sent
to
the
Senate
last
year,
never
made
it
out.
D
It
will
allow
the
flying
of
the
freedom
flag,
which
commemorates
those
individuals
that
were
lost
on
9
11,
our
First
Responders,
all
and
military
personnel
who
have
passed
Pierce
since
that
since
9
11,
and
it
is
a
great
way
for
us
to
share
with
our
young
people
the
importance
of
what
was
experienced
at
that
time
and
the
freedom
flag.
Foundation
actually
brings
displays
to
the
schools
on
9
11
pieces
of
material
from
the
Twin
Towers
just
to
encourage
our
young
people.
G
A
J
J
L
J
J
N
A
B
A
A
All
right
members,
you
do
have
a
committee
sub
that
is
in
front
of
you.
I,
have
a
motion
by
representative
heart
and
I
have
a
second
by
representative
Johnson:
okay,
let's,
let's
go
ahead,
we'll
get
your
questions
because
obviously
the
sub
has
changed
a
lot.
So
representative
stalker.
N
A
Q
H
Good
morning,
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Art
Tom
and
I
represent
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
members
of
the
National
Rifle
Association
here
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
H
H
H
Criminals,
do
not
abide
by
gun-free
zones
and
gun-free
zones
make
law-abiding
citizens
sitting
ducks
for
criminals.
Time
and
again,
America
has
seen
violent
criminals
Target
their
attacks
on
campuses
and
other
places
where
law-abiding
people
are
prohibited
from
carrying
guns
for
protection.
An
instance
occurred
just
this
year,
where
a
deranged
individual
with
no
ties
to
a
university
walked
onto
the
campus
of
MSU
and
shot
eight
people
killing.
H
Three
of
them,
a
felon
who
was
prohibited
from
possessing
a
firearm
and
should
not
have
even
been
out
of
jail
committed
this
cowardly
Act
in
a
place
where,
by
law,
the
state
has
made
it
illegal
for
law-abiding
adults
to
protect
themselves.
This
is
just
another
absolutely
undeniable
instance
that
when
seconds
count,
the
police
are
just
minutes
away.
H
Q
Chairman
I
have
a
few
addition.
Arcs
I
know
that
we're
going
to
be
limited
on
time
today.
So
you
know
in
in
hopes
of
consolidating
some
of
this
members
of
the
committee.
The
only
difference
between
a
law-abiding
citizen,
age,
21
and
over
at
a
university
and
most
any
other
place
in
the
Commonwealth
is
that
the
citizen
has
been
stripped
of
their
ability
to
defend
themselves
from
the
Lawless
gun-free
zones
do
not
work
time
and
again
we
see
this.
Q
All
they
manage
to
do
is
to
create
an
attractive
nuisance
for
criminals
who
prey
on
innocent
victims
and
Destroy
lives.
Criminals,
don't
follow
the
laws
Mr
Tom
says
this
is
something
that
has
been
well
established.
That's
why
they're
criminals,
Banning
firearms
on
campus
is
clearly
not
a
deterrent
for
those
who
would
willingly
harm
others.
Yet
it
ensures
that
innocent
victims
are
defenseless
in
the
face
of
the
unthinkable.
Q
You
know,
I,
don't
need
to
sit
here
and
tell
you
about
all
of
the
failed
gun-free
zones,
but
you
know
just
for
the
sake
of
argument,
a
few
we
all
remember:
Virginia
Tech
and
the
fact
that
32
people
lost
their
lives.
23
were
injured.
Just
recently,
Michigan
state
three
killed
umko
Community
College
nine
killed,
Northern
Illinois,
University,
five
killed,
Oikos
University,
seven
Santa,
Monica
College
five
time
and
again
gun-free
zones
do
not
work
and
every
one
of
these
tragedies
occurred
in
a
gun-free
zone.
Every
time
that
one
of
these
tragedies
occurs.
Q
Public
authorities
issue
a
statement
telling
every
person
on
campus,
who
is
Right
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
the
worst
day
of
their
life,
to
run
hide
and
fight.
Can
you
imagine
if,
if
one
of
your
children
or
somebody
that
you
love
was
on
a
campus
and
they
got
that
text,
message
saying
to
run
hide
or
fight,
but
it's
impossible
to
fight
when
your
own
institution
of
Higher
Learning
has
rendered
you
utterly
defenseless
motion.