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B
C
I'm
here
and
before
we
move
on,
I
will
yield
to
your
co-chair
representative
miller
for
a
couple
introductions.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Today
I've
got
two
guests.
My
oldest
granddaughter,
miss
kate
kelly
is
joining
us
she's
in
the
eighth
grade,
she'll
be
going
into
the
eighth
grade
at
brown
school
in
louisville,
a
jcps
facility,
and
also
by
john
hodgson,
who
lord
willing
and
having
no
opposition
in
november
will
be
my
successor
in
the
36th
district.
C
D
C
Welcome
john
welcome
any
other
guests,
or
that
members
would
want
to
introduce
I'm
sparse
everybody's
staff
here
very
good.
Well,
thank
you
so
much.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
just
the
charge
of
the
task
force
that
I
wanted
to
go
over
over
the
course
of
the
interim.
We
plan
to
take
a
wide
but
deep
look
into
the
functions
of
the
executive
branch
of
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
C
C
C
Overall,
the
task
force
should
produce
some
information
helpful
for
the
general
assembly
to
increase
government
efficiency
and
things
that
we
can
look
at
in
the
23
legislative
session.
So
today,
on
our
agenda,
we
have
one
area
of
the
executive
branch
that
is
here.
We
have
the
department
of
local
government
and
we
have
commissioner
keane
bill
johnson,
matt,
stevens
and
laura
redmond
here
that
are
all
subject
matter,
experts
in
each
of
their
areas,
and
we
will
turn
it
over
to
them.
C
They
have
a
if
you
haven't
looked
in
your
folders,
yet
they
have
a
really
nice
summary
that
they're
going
to
go
over
and
then
we
will
open
it
up
for
questions
and
really
once
again.
This
is
just
really
general
knowledge,
us
building
general
knowledge
of
the
executive
branch
and
questions
that
any
of
us
may
have.
E
Thank
you,
chairman
mills,
and
co-chair
miller
to
the
task
force
members.
I'm
dennis
king
commissioner
of
the
department
of
local
government
on
behalf
of
dlg.
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today
with
me.
Today
are
matt
stevens,
our
general
counsel,
billy
johnson,
executive,
director
of
office
of
state
and
federal
grants
and
laura
redmond.
Our
budget
management
director,
the
department
for
local
government
was
created
by
statute
as
an
independent
agency
attached
to
the
office
of
the
governor,
the
agency
serves
as
a
liaison
between
the
governor
and
cities
and
counties.
E
Dlg's
vision
is
to
strive
to
partner
with
kentucky's
local
communities
to
respond
to
the
urgent
challenges
of
today,
while
carefully
laying
a
steady
foundation
for
tomorrow
to
enrich
our
citizens
and
quality
of
life.
Dlg
advises
local
governments
regarding
budget
personnel
and
other
relevant
issues.
It
also
provides
financial
assistance
in
the
way
of
grants
and
loans
to
the
local
governments
and
special
purpose.
Gubernatorial
entities
within
the
commonwealth
dlg
is
compromised
of
the
following
office
of
financial
management
and
administration
office
of
legal
services,
office
of
field
services,
office
of
state
grants
and
office
of
federal
grants.
E
In
preparing
today.
In
preparing
today's
meeting,
we
understand
that
this
task
force
was
created
to
study
the
efficiencies
in
administering
services
to
the
commonwealth
and
over
the
years
dlg,
as
in
many
agencies,
we've
done
more
with
less.
To
tell
you
more
about
this
is
laura
redmond
dlg's
budget
manager,
laura.
A
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
probably
the
most
significant
thing
that
that
I
found
when
I
was
pulling
together
this
information.
Let
me
preface
by
saying
I've
been
in
this
position
since
late
2019,
but
pulling
together
the
information
for
the
committee
we
have.
Dlg
has
taken
an
operational
cut
of
about
39
that
happened
between
18
and
19.,
but
really
the
most
significant
thing
when
you
think
about
our
efficiency
is
that
even
though
we're
dealing
with
39
percent
cut
and
41
percent
cut
in
personnel,
we've
had
an
increase
in
overall
funding
of
177
percent.
E
F
I'll
start
with
what
I
would
think
could
be
an
easy
softball
that
I
think
that
we
probably
should
do
with
each
one
of
these
is,
I
know,
there's
been
tremendous
cuts.
You've
learned
to
do
more
with
less,
but
as
an
agency
what
it
is.
What
can
this
legislature
do
this
body,
whether
it's
funding,
whether
it
is
legislation?
What
can
we
do
to
make
you
more
efficient
that
you
can
do
your
job
better.
E
That's
a
good
question,
but
right
now
we're
we're
handling
everything
fairly
well,
we
could
use
some
more
staff,
but
that's
like
everything
you
know,
there's
just
not
enough
money
to
go
around,
but
we've
tried
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
with
our
ability.
We've
we've.
Just
as
laura
said,
we've
done
more
with
less.
I
think
senator
thayer
coined
that,
because
I
could
always
remember
him
saying
we've
got
to
do
more
with
less
well,
you
know
we're
doing
more
with
less
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job.
E
But
I
appreciate
the
thought,
though,
thank
you.
D
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
think
linda,
were
you
not
in
the
in
a
similar
position
back
in
ninth
in
the
fletcher
administration,
I
think
I
worked
with
you
in
in
a
previous
life.
I
actually.
D
D
Closely
with
well,
thank
you
thanks
for
your
service
of
all
those
years.
We
we
know
how
hard
it
is
to
to
keep
good
people
and
I'm
glad
we
kept
you.
So
thank
you
and
and
follow
kind
of
follow
up
on
senator
yates's
question.
It
really
kind
of
staffing.
I
think
that
is
a
good
question.
I
mean
if
there's
a
hun,
I
think,
100,
you
said
177
increase
in
funding
in
in
grant
funding.
I
guess
that
we
are,
and
I
suppose
most
of
that's
federal.
I
take
it
right.
D
Okay,
so
I
I
guess
what
I'd
like
to
know
is
about
backlogs.
I
got
just
happened
last
week
or
I'm
not
sure
when
it
came
in
probably
came
in
earlier
than
that,
because
I
had
been
on
vacation
five
announcements
of
grants
in
jefferson
county.
I
think
one
was
fern
creek
community
association,
one
was
bellwood
brookline
one
was
usa,
cares,
one
was
louisville
orchestra
and
one
was
the
louisville
zoo
foundation
and
they
all
carried
a
project
id
of
23
hyphen.
D
Something
is
that
the
is
that
a
fiscal
year
designation,
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
long
had
these
been
grants
been
requested
now
that
they
are
being
and
they're
they're
coming
out
of
the
pipeline.
Now,
when
did
they?
When
did
the
request
go
into
the
pipeline
originally,
and
I'm
trying
to
get
a
sense
again
of
of
what's
the
backlog
you're
facing
right
now
sure.
D
A
Passed
in
the
in
the
22
regular
session,
those
grant
funds
are
available
as
of
july
1,
and
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
those
were
designated
with
that
23.
D
Okay,
so
you're
you're
you're
ahead
of
the
game,
then
so
they
didn't
have
to
be
dispersed
until
july,
one
but
you're
getting
everything
all
your
paperwork
done
before
july
1..
Yes,
sir,
okay,
good.
G
St
westfield,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioner,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
you
bringing
your
your
team
with
you
good
to
see
you
again,
so
you
could
use
staff.
I've
got
that
down,
but
I'm
surprised
you
didn't
mention
it
infrastructure
or
any
other
sort
of
digital
backend,
or
I
mean
everybody
could
use
more
staff
later
on
this
interim
I'm
going
to
have,
though
he
doesn't
know
it.
Yet
I'm
going
to
invite
damon
preston
to
come
and
talk
about
dpa
salaries
which
were
egregiously
low.
G
G
A
D
G
A
The
third
is
for
the
special
purpose,
governmental
entities,
and
that
actually
is
in
the
process.
I
think
it's
in
one
of
its
final
phases
of
the
first
step.
These
take
lots
of
many
years
to
do
because
they
do
cost
a
lot
of
money
spge,
the
special
purpose,
governmental
entities-
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
self-funded,
but
there
is
fee
revenue
that
comes.
H
A
G
Are
all
three
of
these
databases?
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
mayor?
Okay,
are
all
three
of
these
databases
housed
with
cot
managed
by
cot
and
that
or
any
of
them
inside
your
cabinet
within
your
department,
your.
G
A
A
I
have
to
get
updates
every
year
from
them
in
order
for.
G
E
Well,
we
rely
on
quite
a
bit
on
as
far
as
with
the
counties
and
cities,
we
rely
a
lot
on
the
ad
districts.
The
ad
districts
they're
are
communication,
fingers
out
there
to
the
cities
and
counties
and
if
every
city
county,
you
need
something
that
usually,
when
it's
a
grant
or
anything
like
that,
they
do
it
through
the
ad
districts
and
then
the
ad
districts
actually
write
the
grants
form
and
then
we
get
the
grant.
G
B
Well,
there's
some
local
consultants
too,
that
we
are
you
talking
about
the
grant
administrators
yeah,
there's
other
grant
administrators.
You
know,
there's.
G
G
D
G
And
then
other
other
communications
between
agencies?
How
does
we.
E
Have
we
have
weekly
staff
meetings
or
cabinet
secretaries
meetings
every
week
and
we
communicate
with
one
another
like
we
do
a
lot
with
transportation
in
particular
a
lot
of
times
we'll
have
access
to
something
that
they
they
don't
and
we
try
to
work
together.
That
way,
do
a
lot
with
economic
development
cabinet
case
and
point.
G
E
E
We've
got
a
lot
of
them,
but
we're
hoping
that
what
we
did
is
we
brought
in
all
the
ad
districts
for
like.
I
think
it
was
four
or
five
days
and
they
brought
in
and
they
they
brought
in
all
the
descriptions
of
all
the
places
that
they
that
they
had
private
and
public
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
okay.
So
we
inventoried
all
that.
G
E
So
they
call
us
frequently
during
the
day
that
the
ad
districts
aren't
talking
to
us.
We
have
monthly
meetings
with
the
ads
board
and
then
you
know
our
doors
always
open.
I
mean
we
try
to
reach
out.
If
and
there's
times,
we
don't
know
like
something:
that's
happened
like
a
flood
and
how
much
damage
is
caused,
they'll
reach
out
to
us,
and
then
we
kind
of
hone
in
and
we've
got
different
pockets
of
money
that
maybe
we
can
put
together
to
solve
a
problem
for
a
place.
E
Well,
we
have
in
my
former
life,
I
was
a
economic
development
advisor
for
a
com,
a
group
called
south
bank
partners,
and
so
I
got
a
lot
of
experience
with
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
You
have
a
million
dollar
project,
but
you
only
qualify
for
out
of
this
particular
fund,
which
I
believe
there's
four
or
five.
There's
cdbg
grants
rural
development,
it's
not
under
us,
but
we
work
with
them
too,
and
then
we
have
arc
which
is
in
the
mountains.
That's
a
huge
pot
of
money.
We've
got
we've.
E
B
H
B
And
maybe
to
in
addition
to
what
the
commissioner
said,
you
know
at
the
first
of
the
year
we
always
do
our
county's
branch.
Does
a
budget
workshop
and
usually
office
of
state
grants
and
federal
grants
we'll
piggyback
and
give
out
our
information
this
year,
we've
done
it
via
zoom.
Of
course,
a
lot
of
them
have
been
via
zoom
for
the
last
two
years
as
well.
So
we
do
try
to
get
as
much
information
out
to
our
county
elected
officials
as
possible.
G
If
I
can
ask
one
more
follow-up,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
the
the
time
here
back
to
the
three
databases,
and
I
interrupted
you
to
get
to
the
list
of
the
all
three,
but
you
were
talking
about
each
one
being
in
a
different
phase
of
either
development
redevelopment
improvement.
Upgrading
or
something
can
you
walk
me
through
where
they
each
are
the
e-clearing
house
project
one
and
special
spge.
A
Sure
so
spge
is
the
furthest
along
it's
at
the
the
last
few
weeks
really
of
phase
one
that
is
getting
ready
to
be
implemented,
and
so
your
special
districts
will
start
getting
information
on
how
to
go
in
and
do
their
reporting
into
this
new
portal.
So
we're
going
to
be
able
to
capture
that
information
that
our
old
system
just
stopped
doing.
It
was
just
a
dinosaur.
Okay,.
A
Project
one
is
the
next
one.
We
started
working
with
cot,
creating
mapping,
which
is
this
very
involved
process
where
we
map
out
our
each
of
our
programs.
Just
like
you
were
just
asking
what
all
programs
do.
A
G
A
It
provides
a
clearinghouse,
it
goes
through
all
of
the
agencies,
so
if,
for
instance,
I
I
write
a
grant
for
the
ads
every
year
for
jfa,
it
is
an
economic
development
administration
grant.
I
have
to
submit
it
and
they,
the
clearinghouse,
has
to
shoot
that
grant
information
out
to
the
heritage
council,
to
natural
resources
to
all
of
these
various
agencies,
to
make
sure
that
my
grant
scope
doesn't
have
conflicting
views
or
things
that
are
going
to
negatively
impact
the
environment.
Of
course,
what
I
do
is
planning
grant,
so
it
it
doesn't
have
it's.
A
G
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
glad
that
rule
didn't
exist.
Nine
years
ago,
someone
I'm
gonna,
ask
my
last
question:
it's
gonna
be
a
dumb
one.
Is
there
a
reason
why
three
can't
be
just
one
big
thing.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
It
appears
from
your
that
your
been
very
efficient
without
and
from
your
own
report
with
exceptional
additional,
with
the
additional
needs
for
staffing,
so
what's
being
dropped
through
the
cracks
or
or
not
being
done,
and
if
we
were
doing
a
zero-based
budgeting
process.
What
would
you
justify
these
new
steps
to?
What's
not
being
done,
it
could
be
done
with
additional
staffing.
E
Well,
one
of
the
things
is
it's.
You
know
we're
only
allowed
to
get
paid
for
250
hours,
what
they
call
comp
time
and
so
we're
maxing
that
out
with
a
lot
of
people
and
what
happens
is
when
they
max
out,
then
they
have
to
take
time
off
because
they
can't
go
over
250
hours.
It's
like
hitting
a
ceiling
with
your
employee,
so
we
gotta
get
some
time
off
so
that
we
can
bring
him
back
in.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here.
I
know
that
dlg
plays
a
vital
role
with
many
of
our
communities
and
a
couple
questions
I
have
was
talking
to
some
of
the
ads
and
some
of
the
the
friends
I
have
in
the
east.
They've
talked
to
me
about
some
different
projects.
They've
been
kind
of
hanging
out
there
for
a
while
and
representative
miller,
spoke
earlier
about
a
backlog.
C
E
Some
of
them
are
that
we
haven't
received
all
the
information
that
we
need,
even
though
we
approve
a
grant
sometimes
just
like
you
would
approve
alone
in
other
conditions,
and
sometimes
these
smaller
cities
and
counties
struggle
with
getting
the
information
in
a
timely
manner.
You
know
it's
like
the
little
kid
in
the
dike
and
got
to
me
fingers
poking
in
in
the
dam,
but
that's
that's
something
that
we
struggle
with
quite
a
bit.
H
B
C
B
Staff
to
even
try
to
communicate
that
out
like
land
and
water
conservation
funds,
those
projects
can
last
three
years
and
when
you
send
an
application
in
that's
due
by
the
end
of
may.
In
one
year
you
come
on
down
those
projects
get
approved.
The
money
doesn't
come
to
the
next
year.
So
if
our
grant
writers
or
the
proper
documentation
has
not
been
submitted,
national
park
service
only
opens
up
a
window
of
opportunity
to
submit
those
applications
in.
C
B
So
as
for
my
staff
and
what
I
believe
that
they're
100
percent
going
forward
because
I'm
a
stickler
they
you
know
it's
just
not
it's.
The
processes
are
not
easy
and
sometimes
it's
aggravating
and
I
realize
our
counties
want
their
money
and
we
try
to
get
it
there
as
quickly
as
possible.
But
these
are
just
some
of
the
circumstances
and
this
pandemic
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
has
not
been
something.
That's
been
easy
too,
because
everything
has
been
delayed.
B
Even
us,
getting
our
appropriations
from
hud
recreational
trails
or
land
and
water
has
everything
has
been
delayed.
I
hope.
H
H
What
can
we
do
to
streamline
to
to
get
that
moving
forward?
So
that
does
not
continue
to
be
a
problem,
and
if
rural
development
is
a
sticking
point,
are
there
other
agencies
that
we
could
contract
with
as
state
grant
administrators
the
ads
or
someone
else
that
we
could
contract
with
to
help
get
that
moving.
C
B
C
I
All
right
good
deal
good
deal.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
As
you
know,
my
district
was
one
of
the
most
impacted
by
the
tornadoes
of
december
11th.
I
Almost
all
the
damage
in
warren
county
was
in
in
my
district
and
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
all
of
the
work
that
you
all
and
other
agencies
have
done
to
help
us
build
recovery,
get
through
the
relief
phase.
Moving
into
recovery
recovery
is
ongoing
and
it's
obviously
going
to
be
very
lengthy,
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
walk
us
through
the
cdbg
disaster
recovery
process
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about.
I
B
So-
and
I
might
let
matt
have
matt
speak
to
this
shortly,
because
we've
been
meeting
and
having
numerous
meetings
on
disaster
recovery
since
the
night
of
december
10th,
of
course,
as
for
cdbg
disaster
recovery,
we
put
out
an
rfp
and
we
have
already
got
in
contract
with
a
icf
incorporated
that
will
be
working
with
us
and
we
are
already
in
plans
of
working
on
an
action
plan.
B
B
And
so
it's
it's
our
it's
our
main
one,
so
we're
waiting
on
data
sharing
agreements
to
to
be
submitted
to
us,
but
we
are
still
moving
forward
on
everything
else
that
needs
to
be
submitted.
For
this
time
we
are
working
on
surveys
and
probably
within
the
next
week
there
is
going
to
be
a
survey
that
will
hit
those
areas,
keep
in
mind
with
cdbg
dr.
B
They
tell
us
what
areas
of
the
affected
areas
are
going
to
be
hit
and
they've
only
targeted,
a
small
minimum
group
in
that,
and
once
we
do
get
everything
moving
forward,
they
will
still
have
to
beat
a
low
to
moderate
income,
which
is
the
national
objective
that
cdbg
holds
us
to.
So
the
surveys
will
be
going
out.
We
are
getting
those
translated
into
spanish.
B
We
will
probably
be
doing
boots
on
the
ground
public
meetings
in
those
areas.
Once
this
information
is
being
disseminated,
we
have
about
a
five-person
team
in
our
office
that
are
meeting
weekly
with
icf
and
they
are
giving
us
what
we
need
we're
giving
them
what
they
need.
Our
partners
have
been
great
so
far
with
kentucky
emergency
management
and,
of
course,
we
are
having
meet
meetings
with
that.
Once
fema
finishes
all
their
data,
then,
but
I
think
by
the
time
they
have
completed
theirs.
We
should
be
able
to
pinpoint
more
information.
I
I
There
are
over
30
languages
spoken
in
all
of
our
public
schools
and
some
things
you
might
want
to
think
about
about
having
some
people
on
speed,
dial
or
if
you
could
have
somebody
on
the
ground
with
you-
and
I
remember
this
from
the
unemployment
crisis.
But
some
of
the
hardest
hit
areas
are
are
areas
where
we
have
large
immigrant
and
refugee
populations
again
where
the
fatalities
most
fatalities
were
in
bowling
green
is,
it
was
a
block
populated
by
people
who
had
started
coming
to
the
u.s
in
the
1980s.
I
Bosnians
who'd
fled
the
genocide
people
from
el
salvador
who
had
fled.
You
know,
murder,
you
know
murderous
revolutions,
so
you
might
want
to
think
about
having
people
on
the
ground
who
can
speak,
speak
bosnian,
there's
a
large
congolese
population
in
the
tornado
affected
areas.
So
some
of
them
just
do
speak.
I
French
many
do
not
so
swahili
is
also
something
that's
extremely
helpful
burmese
and
maybe
having
someone
if
you've
got
somebody
who
has
expertise
in
burmese,
maybe
they've
got
somebody
on
their
speed
dial
that
can
help
with
local
dialects
as
well,
because
we
have
at
least
eight
different
ethnic
groups
that
came
from
burma
as
refugees
from
the
genocide.
B
I
B
F
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
my
colleague
on
that.
Obviously
we
have
some
of
the
same
hardships
in
jefferson,
county
and
public
schools.
I
think
it's
over
100
different
languages
because
some
of
the
missions
with
the
ministries
bringing
in
different-
but
I
think,
one
of
investment
that
we
can
make
quickly.
Hopefully
most
of
our
agencies,
that
dealing
with
people
on
the
ground
is
just
the
the
language
software
that
can
be
put
into
place,
and
so
it's
a
language,
translation,
software.
You
know
a
lot
of
times.
F
You
can
download
the
apps
to
your
iphone
when
you
travel,
but
there
are
some
more
sophisticated
software.
They
even
use
some
people
trying
to
converse
with
their
clients
attorneys
in
court
and
things
that
way,
but
that
might
be
an
inexpensive
investment
that
would
kind
of
be
second
best
to
having
someone
who
is
fluent,
but
but
I
think
something
that
could
aid
you
immediately
absolutely.
C
Okay,
I've
been
saving
my
questions,
letting
everybody
kind
of
have
questions,
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
a
few.
These
are
just
things
that
I've
just
jotted
from
my
colleagues
have
just
asked
questions
about
and
then
we'll
get
to
kind
of
some
more
global
questions
about
your
agency,
so
is:
are
all
the
employees
100
back
to
work
in
your
office
now
or
are
some
of
them
still
working
remote.
E
We
have
some
working
remote
and
but
not
full-time
remote.
They
come
in
a
couple
days
into
the
office
and
that's
how
we're
dealing
with
it.
You
know
we
thought
we
were
going
to
be
back
full
strength,
but
then
we
had
this
relapse.
We
had
three
people
in
our
office.
Both
of
them
came
down
with
kova
from
their
kids
going
back
to
school
and
it's
just
been
difficult
to
deal
with.
C
E
No,
I
think,
we'll
see
some
of
it
up
until
january.
Probably,
but
after
that
I
think
we'll
be
we
should
be
back.
You
know
this
cova
thing
just
seems
to
hang
over
our
heads.
It
just
runs.
C
E
A
Just
because
I
pay
the
bills,
I
believe
our
office
space
is
about
30
000
square
feet:
okay,
we're
located
in
the
kentucky
higher
education
building.
That's
on
louisville
road
over
near
the
state
police
post
in
the
airport.
C
C
Okay,
all
right
so
does
that
mean
that
they
would
they
would
continue
on
from
from
administration
to
administration.
So
you
have
the
opportunity
to
build
some
ongoing
knowledge
there
that
you're,
based
on
okay.
E
Yeah
we
have
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
amazed
at
when
I
came
on.
It
was
the
institutional
knowledge
that
we
have.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
that
have
had
you
know,
15
20
years
of
experience
and
that's
what's
really
helped
us.
A
lot
is
a
lot
of
the
cabinets.
Don't
have
the
institutional
knowledge
that
we
do,
but
people
generally
that's
one
thing
I
can
say
about
our
cabinet
is
that
people
generally
don't
leave
they
they
like
it.
There
yeah.
C
And
I
you
know-
and
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know
kind
of
preparing
for
this
meeting.
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
my
county
judges
and
they
were,
I
believe,
before
the
meeting.
I
commented
that
they
were
very
complimentary
of
dlg
and,
of
course
they
have
all
kinds
of
questions
and
you
you
guys
seem
to
service
them
well.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
mentioned
earlier
about
the
jfa
funding.
I
believe
in
this
budget
was
there
three
or
four
million
dollars
more
in
the
budget?
A
A
Typically
in
in
our
budgets
that
we've
had
for
years,
the
ads
have
received
around
2
million
dollars
in
general
funds.
Some
of
that
is
used
as
matching
funds.
Eda
gives
us
a
million
dollars
a
million
fifty.
I
think,
and
we
match
it.
Eighty
twenty,
so
we
have
to
kick
in
our
two
hundred.
Sixty
five
thousand
cdbg
is
a
fifty
fifty
program,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
unmatched
dollars,
but
there's
a
defined
scope
of
work
with
jfa
for
the
eda
component.
A
It's
planning
the
comprehensive,
develop
comprehensive
economic
development
strategy,
otherwise
known
as
seds,
and
so
the
ads
kind
of
keep
their
finger
on
the
pulse
of
economic
development
in
their
districts
and
they
create
plans
or
update
their
plans
every
year
to
see
what
new
activities
going
on
what
they
can
do
to
service
it.
What
kinds
of
things
are
needed
in
the
communities
is
there?
Is
there
a
need
for
infrastructure?
Is
there
a
need
for
for
whether
it's
roads
or
sewers
just
to
try
to
target
those
areas?
So
that's
what
the
eda
component
is.
A
The
cdbg
component
is
to
allow
the
ads
to
get
cities
ready
cities
and
counties
ready
to
apply
for
cdbg
funds.
There's
a
lot
of
groundwork
that
has
to
happen
on
the
front
end
of
a
cdbg
grant,
making
sure
that
you've
got
fair
housing
in
place.
You've
got
your
title
vi
compliance,
making
sure
that
it's
accessible
translation
for
all
of
your
important
documents,
making
sure
you've
got
services
for
your
public
meetings.
A
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
cdbg
funds
and
it's
a
50
50
match
program,
the
other
things
that
the
ads
do
and
are
going
to
be
doing
with
this
funding
they're
going
to
be
they
do
a
regional
clearinghouse,
just
like
we
do
with
our
state.
Clearinghouse
they've
got
a
regional
clearinghouse
and
all
projects
go
through
them
first
and
they
they
review
each
of
them.
They
see
what's
what's
still
needed,
what
are
things
that
are
going
to
create
some
pitfalls
as
they
go
through
the
process?
A
They
do
that.
One
of
the
pieces
of
the
scope
of
work
is
to
help
identify
areas
that
there's
no
broadband,
so
that's
actually
been
in
their
scope
of
work
since
sometime
in
the
previous
administration,
with
the
additional
funding,
it
was
two
million
dollars
of
additional
funding
and
that's
not
including
the
extra
money
for
arc
match
and
the
extra
money
for
dra
match,
because
that
that
helps
provide
matching
funds
for
staffing
for
local
development
districts
in
arc
and
dra
specific
regions.
But
this
additional
2
million
dollars
is
going
to
help
the
ads.
A
Take
care
of
training
needs,
they've
had
a
lot
of
staff
turnover.
A
lot
of
these
engineering
companies
are
are
getting
our
well-seasoned
ad
folks
and
are
snagging
them
away
from
our
ads.
So
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
those
folks
trained
and
ready
to
take
on
a
new
generation
of
projects
for
our
communities.
So
I
think
that's
going
to
be
what
you
see
the
most
from
our
ads.
C
So
do
you
meet
annually
with
ad
directors
and
have
any
kind
of
planning
sessions
or
we
we
meet
monthly
monthly?
You.
E
Mean
more:
if
we
need
to
yeah,
I
mean
because
we
reach
out
to
them.
We
really
believe
they're,
our
fingers
out
in
the
in
the
communities
they're
very
critical
to
the
job
that
we
do.
I
don't
think
we
could
have
gotten
rid
of
that
cares
money
in
such
a
timely
way
if
the
ads
hadn't
stepped
up
their
game
and
and
done
what
they
did.
I
mean
pretty
amazing.
C
So
would
you
could
you
put
a
percentage
just
kind
of
a
ballpark
percentage,
of
what
how
many
the
percentage
of
services
that's
done
through
your
office
through
the
ads
and
the
percentage
outside
the
ads
just
curious?
How
much
is
actually
implemented
through
the
ad
districts?
Is
it
fifty
percent,
or
is
it
less
than
fifty
percent
or
or
and
if
you'd
like
to
research,
that
I'd
be
interested
to
know
that,
because
it
sounds
like
that,
obviously
the
ads
are
very
integral
in
what
you
all
do.
C
B
Yeah
and-
and
they
do
keep
the
documentation
too,
because
you
know
we
do
have
scheduled
monitorings-
that
we
have
to
do
for
cdbg
and
we
have
to
go
and
check
their
files,
which
that's
one
time
that
they
do
that
and
usually
that's
on
the
closeout
end
of
those
projects.
But
I.
C
E
Senator
mills
we
emphasize
that
our
door
is
always
open.
I
mean
we,
we
really
reach
out.
If
anybody
needs
us,
you
know,
we
don't
know
if
you
got
a
problem,
if
you
don't
call
us
that's
right
and,
and
we're
very
open
to
that,
and
we
don't
the
hardest
thing
to
tell.
Somebody
is
yes.
If
the
easiest
thing
is
to
say
no,
but
we
we
try
to
say
yes
more
than
we
do
know.
C
I
appreciate
that
we
got
like
15
minutes
left
and
I'm
still
trying
to
ask
some
global
questions
related
to
related
to
we're
gonna
talk
about
budgeting
and
and
revenue
streams.
So
can
you
describe
how
money
flows
into
dlg
and
how
much
is
kept
for
administrative
cost
if
any
and
how
that's
distributed
is?
Does
every
every
every
grant
fund
that
comes
into
the
office?
Have
a
portion
that's
kept
for
some
administration
or
how
does
that
build?
C
Because
I
think
we're
all
or
do
we
is
the
office
completely
supported
by
general
fund
dollars,
help
help
us
with
that.
A
A
There
are
times
with
cdbg.
We
can
bill
100
percent
to
the
federal
government
and
that's
directly
related
to
technical
assistance,
not
just
our
the
regular
administration
of
the
program.
But
if
there's
specific
technical
assistance
that
we
have
to
do,
it's
a
hundred
percent
reimbursed.
That's
for
the
cdbg
specific
staff
and
there
are
seven
eight
staff.
We've
got
42
staff
total,
so
8
of
the
42
are
cdbg
and
then,
if
billy's
working
more
on
cdbg,
of
course,
she
also
oversees
state
grants.
A
A
We
get
fifty
thousand
dollars
because
I
do
all
of
their
moas
and
their
their
reporting,
but
there
are
times
when
our
field
staff,
who
are
out
in
the
areas
they
work
directly
with
the
ads
and
they'll,
go
and
meet
with
the
ads.
They
often
will
build
to
that.
50
000,
that's
set
aside
rec
trails,
recreational
trails
program,
that's
also
a
50
50
program.
We've
only
got
one
staff
that
works
that
program,
so
everybody
else
is
either
federal
or
either
general
funds
or
the
spge
staff.
Special
purpose
governmental
entities
can
bill
to
spge
revenue.
C
A
Actually
do
it
every
month,
do
you
really?
We
have
a
close
out,
usually
around
the
10th
of
every
month
and
so
around
the
11th.
I
run
reports
from
each
of
the
of
the
funding
streams
and
I'll
pull
out
what
was
billed
to
cdbg
what
was
arc,
what
was
jfa
and
when
we
were
dealing
with
covid
funds,
whether
it
was
crf
or
the
the
american.
B
A
American
rescue
plan.
Thank
you.
I
kept
tracking
of
those
what
disbursements
went
out,
what
things
went
out
the
door
and
with
crf
we
actually
got
a
little
bit
of
admin.
For
that
too.
There.
C
You
go
and
kind
of
back
to
senator
westerfield's
question.
As
far
as
all
of
these
do
you
keep
up
with
this
on
excel
spreadsheet
or
okay?
So
you
do
it
in-house.
Yes,
are
you
aware
of
any
office
management
software
that
would
make
that
more
efficient,
or
are
you
comfortable
with
excel.
A
It's
actually
all
available
in
emars.
That's
where
I
pull.
The
reports
from
emars
keeps
a
great,
a
great
tracking,
it's
just
easier
for
me
to
kind
of
be
able
to
pull
down
so
that
we
can
bill
specifically
to
cdbg,
or
that
helps
me
see
if
there
were
any
billing
errors,
if
somebody
accidentally
build
travel
to
the
wrong
program,
if
it's
somebody
who
bills
to
a
couple
different
program
areas,
if
they
build
to
the
wrong
one,
I'm
able
to
see
that
and
then
we
can
do
a
transaction
in
emars.
C
A
Sure,
probably
all
the
agencies,
all
the
executive
branch
agencies,
do
them
the
same.
I
think
we're
required
by
statute
to
follow
certain
procedures
and
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
general
assembly
from
what
I
read,
but
what
we
did
this
last
budget
go
round
last
summer
about
this
time
we
sat
down,
and
we
took
a
look
at
all
of
our
programs
to
see
where
we
would
have
increases
where
we
would
have
decreases,
because
we
knew
we
weren't
going
to
well.
We
thought
we
weren't
going
to
have
any
other
federal
funding.
A
We
thought
covid
was
wrapping
up.
Hopefully
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
federal
funding
dropped
in
our
laps
again
like
that,
but
we
take
a
look
and
see
what
the
forecast
is
going
to
be
for
the
next
two
years,
see
if
there
were
going
to
be
any
increases
or
if
we
knew
of
any
programs
that
were
going
to
be
coming
our
way
with
that
we
build
our
budget
now.
The
the
safeguard
I
guess
with
the
budget
is
what
we
asked
for
for
the
2224.
A
C
So
you
have
a
back-and-forth
conversation
with
the
budget
director
during
the
month
of
november
december
before
it
gets
to
the
governor's
office.
Okay,
all
right,
any
other
questions.
I'm
gonna
represent
good.
I
got
some
more
but
I'll
take
a
break.
D
Thanks,
I
didn't
wanna.
Excuse
me,
mr
chairman.
I
did
want
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
on
the
trying
to
get
my
arms
around
all
your
programs,
and
it's
really
a
follow-up
to
the
original
question
I
asked
about
backlogs
is
and
then
I
think
in
response
to
representative
baker's
comment,
one
of
you
said
possible
backlogs
and
I'm
trying
to
understand.
Are
there
backlogs?
Are
there
not
backlogs?
If
there
are?
Where
do
they
occur?
Are
they
in
the
ad
district?
D
So
then,
before
they
get
to
you
or
jfa
or
counties,
and
as
it
as
I
was
trying
to
articulate
a
question,
it
seems
like
I'd
like
to
see
some
sort
of
flow
chart
for
each
of
your
programs
all
right.
Here's,
a
here's,
a
bolus
of
federal
money
and
here's
how
we
have
to
here's
the
flow
it
comes
from
a
county
to
an
ad
district
to
us
or
to
rural
development,
just
to
try
to
get
my
head
around
it,
because
you
can't
really
address
what
needs.
D
What
can
be
done
differently
unless
you
know
you
can
identify
the
problem
by
the
source
of
the
problem
and
I'm
just
is
there
something
you
all?
Can
provide
of
flow
charts
and
tight
any
possible
backlogs
to
the
type
of
program
you're
dealing
with,
and
I
know,
there's
you
got
120
counties
and
there's.
I
assume
a
lot
of
different
ways
of
doing
things.
D
A
A
It
goes
through
other
it
either
goes
through
the
federal
government
or
it
goes
through
rural
development,
arc
kind
of
needs,
a
vehicle
to
get
their
money
through,
and
sometimes
it's
cdbg.
Sometimes
it's
rural
development
through
the
u.s
department
of
agriculture.
So
it's
usda
has
had
some
backlogs,
so
it's
nothing
that
we
could
do
anything
about.
A
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
take
it
off
their
hands,
but
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
that
capability.
It's
a
it's
a
decision
on
the
application
level
with
arc
directly
locally
or
with
our
state
programs
like
land
and
water,
for
instance.
It's
not
necessarily
a
backlog,
it's
more
of
an
incomplete
application
that
has
to
be
bounced
back
to
the
the
local
government
so
and
depending
upon
who
the
consultant
was.
A
E
E
They
make
sure
that
they're
the
very
last
to
go
in
and
so
that
messes
up
when
you're
dealing
with
an
agency
that
you
don't
have
no
control
over
like
rural
development.
If,
if
they've
got
some
problems
over
there,
I
I
we
can't
apply
the
arc
money
until
they've
solved
their
problems.
So
there's
a
lot
of
catches,
it's
aggravating,
but
you
can't
when
you're,
trying
to
put
something
together,
you
get
a
lot
of
people
involved.
D
C
Thank
you
just
one
other
kind
of
area
we
got
about
five
minutes
of
then
this
is
really
more
global.
When
you're
thinking
about
how
you,
how
the
organization
plans
for
the
year
or
the
budget
year
so
do
y'all
ever
get
together.
As
far
as
doing
any
type
of
strategic
planning
for
the
cabinet.
C
C
E
Yes,
we
do.
We
do
look
at
things.
Occasionally.
You
have
a
project
that
you
can
make
it
more
of
a
regional
approach
and
we
really
look
forward
if
we
can
put
a
couple
different
pots
of
money
and
keep
on
saying
it.
E
But
if,
if
we
can
do
that
and
go
about
like
putting
in
a
sewage
system
that
could
could
address
four
or
five
cities
instead
of
just
one
city,
you
know
we
look
at
all
that
stuff
and
our
determination
and
it
it's
it's
very
gratifying
when
you
can
walk
away
from
the
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
know
that
you've
you've
changed
somebody's
life,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
people
that
don't
have
safe
drinking
water
and
things
that
nature
there's
nothing
better
than
being
able
to
do
that.
C
So,
as
far
as
like
I
guess,
the
word
would
be
like
performance
measures
like
you're
you're,
measuring
how
you're
performing
how
your
organization
is
performing,
because
if
you
don't
have
those
in
place,
you
really
don't
know
if
you're
succeeding
or
not
yeah,
you
may
have
given
some
money
away,
but
you
know
is:
did
we
did
we
meet
our?
You
know
what
we
set
out
to
accomplish
this
year?
I
think
that's,
that's
one
way
to
think
about
efficiencies
and
then
to
be
able
to
report
back
and
say
you
know
we
had
this
goal.
We
reached.
C
You
know
85
percent,
of
this
goal.
You
know,
I
know
that's
a
that's
kind
of
a
different
way
to
think
for
government,
but
I
think
that's
in
the
business
world
we're
all
we
all
have
to
account
for
you
know
where
we
spend
labor
and
and
time
and
money,
and
I
think
that
all
comes
together.
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
kind
of
me
focus
more
on
outcomes
and
not
just
outputs.
C
C
Okay,
I'm
gonna
comment
real,
quick
and
I'll
leave.
The
last
comment
for
representative
miller.
You
know
this.
This
task
force
is
really
you
know,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
on
in
the
executive
branch
and
most
legislators.
C
It
takes
homework
to
dig
down
in
it
and
get
to
find
out
what's
going
on,
and
I
think
the
way
this
task
force
probably
going
to
operate
is
that
we
end
up
asking
a
lot
of
general
questions
and
then
we
go
home
and
think
and
then
we
may
end
up
either
sending
some
additional
questions
to
be
answered.
Particulars
or
we
might
have.
C
You
come
back
with
another
agency
to
answer
like
five
or
ten
minutes
worth
of
questions
later
in
the
interim,
and
you
know
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
get
through
everything
we
need
to
get
through
in
this
interim,
because
there's
a
lot
to
be
asked
a
lot,
a
lot
to
be
asked.
C
But
I
appreciate
y'all
short
in
you
know
introduction,
because
you
gave
us
a
lot
of
information
and
we
digested
that
and
gave
us
almost
an
hour
to
answer
to
ask
questions
so
with
that
I'll
leave
the
meeting
off
to
represent
miller.
D
Well,
you
may
not
like
my
comment,
mr
chairman,
but
we
went
through
redistricting
last
year
for
the
courts.
We
actually
did
a
little
bit
on
the
courts.
We
did
it
on
the
legislature,
we
did
it
on
congress.
D
D
I
know
in
my
area
and
that's
come
at
a
cost
of
we've
got
some
little
tiny
ads
in
terms
of
population.
They
cover
I'd,
like
this
committee
to
look
at
ad
districts
roll
this
back
a
level
to
see.
Should
we
be
looking
at
ad
district
issues.
D
E
Yeah
we'll
share
something
with
you
on
the
ad
districts.
Eastern
kentucky,
its
population
is
shrinking,
but
there
is
there's
more
demand
on
those
ad
districts
in
the
mountains
than
ever
before.
We're
we're
trying
to
get.
You
know
those
people
you
know
to
get
the
the
mountain
economic
development
is
a
challenge
for
them.
There's
so
many
challenges
that
the
the
mountains
have
that
other
areas
of
the
state
do
not
have
you
know
when
you
get
into
where
I'm
from
more
urban
area.
E
C
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
members
of
the
task
force
today.
Well,
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
the
preparation
that
you
sent
us
and
we'll
be
back
in
communication
with
you
in
the
future
in
the
interim,
but
thank
y'all
for
everything
you
do
once
again.
I've
heard
compliments
of
your
staff
and
thank
you
for
taking
care
of
the
county
governments
and
city
governments.
Well,
so
yes,
and
so
we'll
stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
thank.