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A
Started
here,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
at
the
executive
branch
efficiency
task
force
meeting.
This
is
meeting
number
five
and
we
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
put
into
your
presentation
that
we're
going
to
see
and
all
that
before
us
before
we
get
going.
We
need
approval
of
the
minutes
from
September
26th.
Oh
sorry,
roll
call,
we
need
roll
call
first
and
then
we'll
do
the
minutes.
A
A
Representative
Miller
Center
Mills
I'm
here
now
we'll
look
at
the
minutes
and
have
approval
of
the
minutes
from
September
26th.
Is
there
a
motion,
a
motion
from
Senator
nemus?
Second
from
representative
Miller,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
The
minutes
are
approved.
One
of
the
things
we
do
before
we
start
is
to
read
our
charge
of
this
task
force
before
we
get
started
every
meeting.
So
let
me
read
this
in
the
record,
the
task
force
was
developed
to
take
a
wide
but
deep
look
into
the
functions
of
the
executive
branch
of
the
Commonwealth.
A
Specifically,
the
hope
is
that
we
will
be
able
to
go
cabinet
by
cabinet,
allow
them
to
come
in
and
explain
their
structure
from
the
top
down
and
how
they
function.
This
will
lead
to
further
conversations
on
how
each
cabinet
is
funded
in
their
budget
building
practices.
Additionally,
these
meetings
will
give
the
cabinet
the
opportunity
to
propose
to
the
legislature
future
reorganization
plans
and
any
other
proposals
aimed
at
increasing
efficiency
that
requires
legislative
action.
Overall.
A
This
task
force
should
produce
info
information
helpful
to
the
general
assembly
and
increasing
government
efficiency
in
the
2023
session
and
sessions
to
come.
So
so
today
we
have
before
us
the
transportation
cabinet
and
we
have
all
kinds
of
dignitaries
before
us
and
I
will
allow
secretary
gray
to
introduce
the
folks
that
are
here
and
just
remember,
Mr
secretary
every
time
you
mentioned
the
I-69
Bridge,
you
get
extra
credit.
So.
B
C
Okay,
well,
I
will
say
just
as
a
parenthetically
before
we
get
going,
you
all
have
done.
Some
I
mean
the
communities
that
have
come
together
about
over
that
project
and
the
the
unity
that's
represented.
There
is
really
remarkable.
That's
what
I've
observed
in
the
short
time
so
Mr
chairman
and
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
asking
us
to
join
you
today
and
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
first
things.
C
First,
let
me
let
me
introduce
some
of
the
folks
in
the
room
or
all
of
the
folks
that
are
from
the
cabinet
side
and
I
will
say
that
that
they
wanted
to
come
here
today.
Didn't
they
did
you
hear
those
laughs?
They
really
wanted
to
be
here.
Well,
the
truth
is
seriously
because
they
are
proud
of
their
work,
and
you
all
can
understand
that,
because
they're
proud
of
their
work
and
then
they
they
really
did
want
to
join
here
today,
and
they
have
all
contributed
to
this
presentation
today
and
would
be
available.
C
C
C
Brad
schwant
is
Deputy
Commissioner
of
the
Department
of
Aviation
Pat
Grugan
is
director
of
The
Office
of
Support
Services
Sarah
Jackson
is
the
not
only
the
real
ID
project
manager,
but
she
she
often
carries
many
hats
and
wears
them
as
a
senior
advisor
in
the
in
the
cabinet
and
and
Brad
Webb
is
Administrative
branch
manager
of
the
office
of
Human
Resources.
So,
as
I
said,
we
have
the
resources
here
to
to
help
when
we
get
in
the
need
of
help
I
wanted
to
go
through.
C
First,
let
me
give
you
a
picture
of
our
presentation,
which
I'm
thinking
will
take,
probably
maybe
in
a
rehearsal
we're
in
about
20
or
25
minutes,
because
I
do
have
26
slides
and
you
all
said,
that's
okay,
but
it
does
represent
the
where
the
what
the
questions
it
that
you
all
are
asking
and
the
interests
that
you
have
the
comments
so
out
of
the
gate,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
a.
What,
in
my
view,
are
the
extraordinary
extraordinary
results
that
the
cabinet
has
achieved.
C
C
C
C
These
are
just
some
images
from
from
the
the
most
recent
the
flooding
activities
we've
reported
on
these
activities
to
the
transportation
Committees
of
the
the
interim
Transportation
committees,
every
Department
office
and
highway
district
has
actually
been
involved.
All
12
Highway
districts
have
been
involved
in
some
way
in
these
responses
to
these
disasters.
C
We've
had
the
mission
of
repairing
and
reopening
hundreds
of
roadways
and
bridges,
and
we're
currently
also
responsible
for
the
debris
cleanup
again
outside
of
what
would
be
a
conventional
or
normal
scope
of
activities,
but
because
of
the
competence
and
the
commitment
of
leadership
and
I'm,
not
talking
about
us
sitting
up
here
at
the
table,
but
the
the
folks
behind
everyone.
That's
here
today.
That's
how
come
we're
able
to
do
these
extraordinary
jobs.
C
Our
crews
have
even
hauled
water
and
food
and
cleaning
supplies
cots
Portable
Buildings
heavy
equipment,
you
name
it
when
I
was
in
when
I
was
coming
back
from
when
actually
Kenny
I
believe
you
were
with
me
that
day
we
were
coming
back
from
from
some
of
the
most
impacted
counties
and
we
were
on
the
Mountain
Parkway
and
a
convoy
of
equipment
was
headed.
This
was
three
days
after
the
flood,
and
these
convoys
were
coming
from
other
districts.
C
We've
also
hauled
and
delivered
and
installed
hundreds
of
travel
trailers
again
outside
a
normal
scope
for
use
as
temporary
shelter
for
kentuckians
who
lost
their
homes.
I'll
add
that
several
of
our
employees
lost
their
own
homes
in
both
of
these
disasters,
yet
we're
back
at
work
almost
immediately.
C
C
On
top
of
the
weather
disasters,
we
had
the
emergency
closure
of
the
Brent
Spence
bridge
in
Northern
Kentucky,
following
the
fire
on
the
bridge
in
November
of
2020..
It
was
another
all
hands
on
deck
emergency,
but
the
bridge
was
safely
reopened,
just
41,
Days,
Later,
ahead
of
schedule
and
actually
under
budget.
C
C
Previous
previous,
an
earlier
career,
I
guess,
I
was
fortunate
to
to
to
be
able
to
do
projects
with
Toyota
and
Toyota
has
what's
known
as
a
Toyota
production
system,
and
one
of
the
features
of
the
Toyota
production
system
is
not
just
Kaizen
and
continuous
Improvement,
but
also
continuous
cost
basis
reduction,
and
that's
one
been
one
of
the
things
that
I've
really
observed
with
the
cabinet
is
there
is
a
conscious
effort,
always
and
I
think
that's
a
function
of.
We
are
a
Contracting
agency,
there's
always
an
attention
to
cost
and
controlling
those
costs.
C
We
are
continually
continually
modernizing
business
practices
for
efficiency
and
public
convenience.
As
an
example,
a
consultant
portal
was
developed
within
our
division
of
Professional
Services
in
the
department
of
highways
to
replace
a
paper-based
procurement
process.
That's
a
single
system
for
initializing
advertising,
submitting
scoping,
estimating
negotiating,
approving
and
finalizing
professional
service
contracts,
of
which
you
can
imagine
with
an
annual
budget
of
3.7
billion
and
a
big
Highway
budget
within
that
that
there
are
a
lot
of
Professional
Services
contracts.
So
making,
though,
that
application
process
efficient
is
a
big
deal.
C
C
Consultants
can
focus
on
Engineering
Services
today,
rather
than
administrative
tasks
that
end
up
being
charged
to
overhead,
they
can
quickly
submit
their
annual
pre-qualifications
electronically
rather
than
having
to
hand
carry
hard
copies
or
paper
copy
binders
to
Frankfurt
approvals
now
take
days
and
not
months,
there's
also
a
portal
by
which
Commercial
Vehicle
drivers
can
submit
much
of
their
paperwork
for
cdl's
commercial
driver's
licenses.
Of
course,
okay
now
I
want
to
go
into
the
slides.
I
want
to
start
with
some
slides
that
will
tell
you
will
describe
the
vision
and
the
mission
of
the
cabinet.
C
The
vision
is
something
that
is
is
a
an
element
of
the
of
our
strategic
plan.
That
is
actually
elevated
itself
in
the
last
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
that
vision
is
to
striving
that
we
are
striving
to
be
national
leaders
in
transportation
who
provide
transportation,
infrastructure
and
services
for
the
21st
century,
delivering
new
economic
opportunities
for
all
kentuckians.
We
really
do
tie
and
I've
noticed
this.
It's
not
something
that
was
created.
C
This
mission
statement
was
was
created
some
time
ago
may
have
been
tweaked
over
time,
but
it's
it's
very
clear
that
that
the
mission
of
the
cabinet
is
to
provide
a
safe,
efficient,
environmentally
sound
and
fiscally
responsible
transportation
system
that
delivers
Economic,
Opportunity
and
enhances
quality
of
life
in
Kentucky.
Okay,
let's
go
the
next
slide.
Kenny.
The
functional
responsibilities
of
the
cabinet
include
improving
highway
safety.
C
Our
functional
responsibilities
also
include
maintaining
and
upgrading
highways
and
bridges
administering
the
rural
and
Municipal
Aid
programs.
That's
Bobby
Joe's
shop
as
commissioner
of
Rural
and
Municipal
Aid
vehicle
regular
vehicle
regulation
driver's
licensing
motor
carriers,
we
coordinate
in
transit
funding
with
local
agencies,
Aviation
funding
with
Kentucky's
airports,
Waterway
and
ferry
boat
funding,
and
we
coordinate,
coordinate,
railroad
funding.
C
Believe
it
or
not.
This
is
a
this
is
an
abbreviated
org
chart
and
and
the
and
the
typeface
is
pretty
small.
I've
got
one,
that's
not
abbreviated
and
and
it
and
it
illustrates
all
the
activities,
all
the
activities
of
the
cabinet,
but,
as
I
said
it
think
of
it.
This
way
that
out
of
I
think
you'll
I'll
have
the
exact
numbers
here
in
just
a
minute
on
a
slide,
but
out
of
the
4100
and
a
little
more
than
4
100
employees
in
the
cabinet.
C
Today,
3
600
of
those
and
and
a
few
more
3
600,
but
roughly
3
600
are
in
the
department
of
highways.
Department
of
Highways
is
shown
here.
C
Where
is
it
right
under
the
department
of
oh
we're
on
the
right
office
of
project
Matt?
Oh
Department
highways,
absolutely
right.
It's
different
than
my
work
chart
than
I'm
used
to
seeing
you
also
forgive
me.
But
again,
the
department
of
highways
is
one
that
influences
influences
almost
every
almost
every
other
activity
in
one
way
or
another,
but
these
other
departments
are
really
Mission,
critical
and
I'm
sure
you
all
interact
with
many
of
them.
Many
of
them
yourselves.
C
I.
Don't
know
whether
it's
a
a
apocryphal
or
imaginary
or
not,
but
I,
remember
I've
I've,
heard
stories
from
former
secretary
Jimmy
codale
who
says
that
Mike
that
at
one
point
in
time,
maybe
when
it
was
when
Cal
Grayson
was
a
commissioner
of
Highways
and
then
the
first
Secretary
of
Transportation,
but
there
were
as
many
as
12
000
employees
in
the
cabinet.
Today
there
are
forty
one
hundred
and
twenty
in
2012
so
10
years
ago
the
employment
level
was
four
thousand
six
hundred
and
forty
five.
C
Now
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
Yes,
it's
been
on
a
declining
trend
for
many
years
now
the
cabinet
had,
as
I
said
these
numbers
from
a
decade
ago.
Today
we're
at
4120
that's
a
decline
of
11
percent.
C
There
are
stress,
frankly,
there
are
stress
fractures
in
those
numbers
looking
at
it
from
a
from
a
lens
or
perhaps
ahead
of
of
being
in
business.
For
all
for
a
career
too,
you
all
know
and
I
certainly
have
that
experience
of
the
anxiety
that
can
occur
when
you
don't
have
muscle
and
strength
and
sufficient
employees,
often
or
sometimes
to
get
the
job
done.
C
We
believe
that,
frankly,
that
too,
that
there
is
a
some.
There
is
some
anxiety
associated
with
the
new
pension
system,
the
tiered
pension
system,
because
it
has
compromised
the
recruiting
and
retention
of
employees,
and
so
too
are
the
salaries
that
we're
able
to
offer.
Now
we
all
recognize
that
there's
been
a
big
effort,
certainly
the
governor
right
there
in
front
and
the
legislature
right
there
in
front
to
support
employees
and
to
try
to
adjust
to
inflationary
times,
so
that
is
certainly
appreciated.
C
C
As
a
result,
there's
been
an
an
upward
trend
of
Outsourcing
Contracting
out,
particularly
in
the
areas
of
bridge
inspections,
Design
Services
construction
inspection
services
and
Bridge
rate
load
raters,
the
folks
who
calculate
the
Safe
Load
carrying
capacity
of
bridges.
C
I
want
to
point
out
that,
in
the
wake
of
the
recent
flooding
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
our
Bridge
inspectors
and
experts
with
the
help
of
consultants
over
a
two-week
period,
inspected,
1098,
State
and
county-owned
bridges
in
the
flood
impacted
counties
1098
in
a
two-week
period
and
out
of
that
1098,
we
had
almost
200
that
were
200
almost
200
that
were
in
need
of
significant
repair
or
full
replacement
and
we're
on
a
path
for
those
who
need
those
that
need
full
replacement.
C
We've
already
let
contracts
more
a
little
over
30
and
we
have
contracts
ready
to
go
on
another
30
before
the
end
of
the
year.
That
means
we've
designed
we've
engineered
and
we've
put
estimates
together
for
these
projects.
So
not
a
casual
undertaking
is
my
point
even
in
ordinary
times.
I
want
to
mention
this
too.
Our
the
department
of
highways
has
a
responsibility
for
inspecting
more
than
14
000
State
and
County
owned
Bridges
each
year
and
for
actively
maintaining
more
than
9
000
state-owned
Bridges.
So
the
point
is
you
can't
Outsource
everything.
C
Project
management
has
to
come
from
the
cabinet
within
the
cabinet
engineering
leadership.
Engineering
Direction
has
to
come
from
the
cabinet
from
the
employees
of
the
cabinet,
and
this
is
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have,
because
when
we
think
about
efficiency,
you
know
the
first.
The
first
in
the
first
inclination
is
to
think:
how
do
you
reduce
cost,
but
an
equally
important?
This
is
something
I've
said.
C
You
know:
I
have
to
confess
that
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
the
Toyota
production
system
and
there's
an
awareness
there
that
you
know,
if
you
don't
have
the
muscle,
and
if
you
don't
have
the
strength,
then
you
can't
be
efficient.
C
Okay,
so
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
Kenny
all
right,
I'm,
going
to
take
you
all
now
through
employees,
by
employees,
employment
by
each
division.
I've
mentioned
earlier
that
we
have
a
total
of
400
4120
employees
today.
Now
that
does
not
include
contract
employees,
especially
and
that's
a
number
of
about
80
in
our
I
in
our
I.T
functions,
but
General
Administration,
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regulation-
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
those.
But
you
see
highways
is
a
big
number.
A
Secretary,
we
have,
we
have
a
question.
We
I
I
meant
to
mention
this
before.
C
C
Westfield
I
should
have
said
that
if
you
need
to
y'all
just
raise
your
hand,
I
was
going
to
say:
we've
got
room
for
questions.
Of
course.
Don't.
D
C
These,
oh,
my
goodness,
all
right.
Okay,
we'll
do
our
best.
C
Vehicle
regulation,
our
our
standing
up
the
quickly
the
real
ID
offices
meant
that
we
needed
to
get
contract
employees,
okay,
secure
contract
employees.
C
Yeah
Professional
Services,
of
course,
is
contracted
out.
That's
Consulting
engineer:
Consulting
Engineers,
a
legal
has
some
requirements
for
hiring
attorneys
to
represent
the
cabinet.
D
E
C
Right:
okay,
all
right
next,
let's
slide
Kenny
the
overall
kytc,
but
basically
these
slides
by
the
way
you
all
are
arranged
in.
You
know
the
title
of
the
the
title
at
the
top
then
programmatic,
on
the
left
and
then
budget
information
on
the
right
I'm
going
to
go
down
to
the
total
funding.
You
see
that
we've
got
number
of
employees
and
that's
4120
above
that
total
funding.
This
is
all
of
our
Revenue
sources.
Together,
federal
federal
and
state
restricted
and
general
fund
is
3.769
billion,
and
that
includes
the
general
Administration
and
support
department
of
highways.
C
Aviation
Rural
and
Municipal
Aid
I'm
going
to
go
through
those.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
General,
Administration
and
support
includes
222
employees.
That
includes
it,
for
example,
so
you
need
to
add
contract
employees
which
roughly
80,
on
top
of
that-
that's
our
that's,
arguably
our
largest
our
highest
content
of,
except
for
well
no,
except
for
for
real
ID.
Today.
What
we're
doing
with
real
ID
is
we're.
We've
we've
had
the
contract
employs
temporary
services
through
temporary
services
because
we
couldn't
hire
quickly
enough
to
stand
up
these
offices.
C
C
C
This
is
coming
from
the
road
fund,
State,
restricted
and
federal.
So
the
our
federal
portion
there
is
the
in
the
blue,
the
dark
blue.
So
that's
our
federal
matching
funds-
Federal
Highway
Administration,
that's
the
that's
the
annual
funding
that
we
get
now.
That
number
is
up
now
through
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
That
1.391
million
is
roughly
230
million
more
than
it
was
last
year
as
a
result
of
the
infrastructure
legislation.
Sir.
C
You
know
it's
a
five-year
commitment
so
and
according
to
those
who
are
authorities
like
Mike
and
Ron,
it's
it's
never
actually
or
in
y'all's
career.
It's
never
gone
back
down.
Has
it
they've
always
found
a
way
to
keep
it
at
a
at
that
number
and
with
you
know,
it's
good
news.
Yeah
yeah
knock
on
wood
right,
okay,.
C
Oh,
the
250
thanks
Mike,
the
250
million,
is
the
commitment
that
the
general
assembly
made
at
the
encouragement
of
the
governor
in
the
last
session
for
the
mega
projects,
so
that
number
is
in
there
as
well,
so
that
takes
it
up
pretty
significantly
from
from
the
last
biennium.
C
E
Right,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
secretary,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
just
quickly
with
the
federal
dollars
coming
in.
That's
the
matching.
Do
we
have
to
equalize
that
match,
and
are
we
still
prior
to
that?
We
was
short.
Quite
a
bit
for
the
road
fund
was.
Is
that
correct?
Did
I
read
the
Strategic
plan
for
Kentucky
I
read
somewhere
that
say
195
million
dollars
short
I.
C
Think
that
was
on
maintenance
is
that
right
is
that
I
think
that
was
the
main
back
backlog
of
Maintenance
projects
estimated.
You
know
where
we
really
needed
more
funding.
Is
that
yeah,
yeah,
okay.
C
E
C
C
Up,
okay,
rural
Municipal,
Aid
big
number
here
too,
of
course
a
small
number
of
employees,
so
the
administrative
costs
in
this
for
this
distribution
of
372
million
dollars
in
this
in
this
budget
is
really
Limited
very
small.
This
is
Bobby
Joe,
Lewis's
shop
and
I.
Imagine
that
some
of
you
all
she
deals
with
a
lot
of
County
judges,
a
lot
of
mayors
across
the
state
and
by
the
way,
it's
important
to
mention
this
too,
because
you
all
hear
about
the
secretary's
discretionary
account.
Sometimes
there's
not
a
lot
of
discretion
to
it.
C
There
is
a
good,
very
bona
fide
process
of
evaluating
the
projects
that
are
requested
of
the
secretary's
discretionary
account.
That's
that
number
used
to
be
25
million
a
year,
25
million
it's
now
10
million
a
year
is
what
we're
working
with,
and
this
is
where
the
counties
asking
us
for
funds
for
repairs
on
roads
routinely
and
we're
coming
up.
We
really
are
coming
up
short:
we've
got
a
backlog
of
30,
some
million
there,
and
we've
got
10
million
a
year
in
the
current
in
the
current
budget.
C
C
C
Okay,
this
next
one
is
the
Department
of
Vehicle
regulation.
This
is
Matt
Cole's
shop.
Sarah
Jackson
is
real
involved
in
this
as
well.
It's
where
we
have
the
division
of
motor
vehicle
licensing,
motor
carriers,
drivers,
licensing
customer
service
and
also
is
housed
the
Kentucky
Motor
Vehicle
Commission,
all
right
number
of
employees.
There
is
I,
think
yeah,
219.
C
Matt
does
that
include
the
contract
and
that,
what's
that
number
today,
150.
so
contract
employees
are
on
the
contract,
employees,
a
temporary
agency
employees
that
are
in
the
real
ID
and
Licensing
offices
they're.
On
top
of
this
219.,
just
remember
that
we've
stood
up
32
offices
across
the
state
in
that
real
ID
program.
C
C
Aviation
is
total
funding
of
36
million
456
and
that
rep
that
includes
a
one-time
funding
that
the
legislature
approved
of
eight
is
18
million.
Isn't
it
I
believe?
Does
anybody
know
11
11
right
11
million
the
yep?
C
E
C
A
C
D
You
chairman,
you
don't
have
to
answer
this
right
now.
Is
there
a
helpful
way
or
resource
that
points
to
what,
in
each
one
of
these
different
departments,
what
the
restricted
funds
are,
what
permissible
uses
there
are
for
the
restricted
funds.
C
E
A
E
E
We've
had
them
used
in
the
past
for
sales
tax
from
Aviation
jet
fuel
we've
had
funds
for
purchases
for
highway
equipment,
I
mean
these
are
just
some
examples:
various
fees
and
investment
income
that
have
a
a
designated
place
in
the
budget
to
be
used
so
they're,
otherwise
restricted
from
other
use.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
But
we
can
provide
that
okay,
all
right.
Okay,
do
we
already
talk
about
public
transition?
Oh
okay,
again
the
on
the
left,
the
programmatic,
multimodal
planning,
public
transportation,
Human,
Service
transportation,
15
employees
in
this
department,
total
funding,
9
98
million
a
year
and
there's
another.
They
also
administer
another
roughly
well,
it's
over
a
hundred
million
of
federal
of
federal
funds
that
are
not
flown
that
are
not
passed
through
in
the
our
funding
or
our
budget,
and
those
are
remind
me
thanks,
Vicki
non-emergency,
non-emergency
medication.
C
E
Well
well,
this
this
particular
slide
is
a
little
bit
different
from
the
ones
we've
been
looking
at
previously
because
it
has
two
separate
items
on
the
sheet.
One
of
those
is
Debt
Service
and
The.
Debt
Service
is
the
amount
that
the
cabinet
pays
for
past
bonds
sold
through
the
Kentucky
Turnpike
Authority,
and
we've
we've
used
bonds
over
the
last
over
10
15
years.
E
Actually,
since
1984,
the
cabinet
has
used
about
4.1
billion
dollars
worth
of
Turnpike
Authority
and
federal
Garvey
bonds,
that
type
of
thing,
but
for
fiscal
year
2023
we
have
Debt
Service
in
the
amount
of
135
million,
plus
or
minus
that
that
will
cover
us
for
this.
For
those
past
debts
that
we
are
servicing
for
our
capital
budget.
This
is
a
little
bit
different.
E
Our
our
capital
plan
is
funded
through
the
transportation
budget,
and
in
that
Capital
plan
we
have
about
35
million
dollars
a
little
bit
less
than
that
to
take
care
of
our
basically
our
physical
infrastructure
across
the
state
that
the
cabinet
owns.
We
have
approximately
1500
buildings
across
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
that
are
maintained
by
the
transportation
cabinet
and,
and
so
the
vast
majority
of
of
this
money
would
go
to
help,
maintain
and
keep
those
facilities
running
so
about
35
million
dollars
for
fiscal
year
23
through
our
capital
budget.
A
E
A
A
E
Got
as
as
all
of
you
know,
I'm
sure,
out
in
your
District
County
maintenance
facilities,
you've
got
sheds,
you've
got
other
pieces
of
infrastructure
that
need
repair
need
replacing,
and
so,
if
we
did
a
big
picture
long
term,
what
do
we
need
in
this
area?
The
35
million
a
year,
Keeps
Us,
rolling
yeah,
but
it'd.
C
Okay,
the
next
the
next
few
slides
are
I'm.
Sorry,
the
next
few
slides
have
to
do
with
the
are
addressing
the
budget
and
fun.
So
we're
going
to
talk
the
the
budget
for
fiscal
year,
2023
fund
sources,
State
Road
funds,
federal
funds,
state
restricted
funds
and
state
general
funds,
primarily
the
primary
funding,
Partners
we're
using
the
language.
Basically,
the
sources
is
the
general
assembly
U.S
Department
of
Transportation
federal
highways,
Federal
Transit,
Administration,
Federal,
Aviation,
Administration
and
federal
rails
Administration.
Now
those
are
you
know.
C
The
order
of
magnitude,
of
course,
is
the
top
the
top
two
and
then
it
it
it.
It
declines,
but
still
Federal
Transit
Administration
is
pretty
big
number
too
State
Road
fund
total
revenue
you'll
see
the
breakdown
there
where
the
funds
are
coming
from,
but
the
total
revenue
for
23s,
1.721
million
and
48
percent
of
it
you
can
see,
is
in
the
yellow,
the
motor
Fuels
Gas
tax,
833.8
million
35
percent.
C
C
C
One
point
this
year
is
we're
estimating
it
letting
the
contracts
that
will
be.
Let
will
be
somewhere
between
1
billion
and
1.2
billion.
Now
that
was
leading.
That
doesn't
mean
we've
got
the
expenses
all
in
that
year.
Of
course,
Debt
Service
Highway
planning,
vehicle
regulation,
General,
Administration
capital
projects,
Aviation
Kentucky,
State
Police,
the
State
Police
number,
as
you
all
probably
know,
has
declined
some.
C
E
C
C
E
Mr
secretary
you
mentioned
Evie
before,
could
you
go
a
little
deeper
into
EV,
not
in
in
completely
in
terms
of
only
on
the
capital
side,
but
on
an
ongoing
basis?
I
I
know
we're
we're
creating
a
bunch
of
charging
stations,
but
talk
about
the
economics
going
forward,
as
are
there
fees
that
you
got
to
put
a
credit
card
in
to
get
to
charge
up
your
Tesla
or,
and
is
the
shortfall
going
to
be
met
by
federal
funds?
State
funds?
If
you
could
just
talk
about
the
economics
of
that
whole
I.
C
Think
some
of
that
Mr
chairman
some
of
that's
still
in
development-
you
know
it's
not
all
resolved
yet,
but
there
will
be
in
terms
of
revenues.
There
will
be
charges
for
the
charges
at
the
at
the
stations
and
you
know,
what's
the
mix
going
to
be
I,
we
need
Justin
Herod
here
right
now
or
John
Moore
I'm
going
to
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
some
of
that.
C
Okay,
we've
got
we're.
You
probably
know
that
we're
looking
at
somewhere
around
70
stations
in
the
first
round-
and
that
would
be
that
would
be
on
our
interstates
and
our
Parkways
in
the
first
round.
E
I
won't
be
here
to
monitor
it,
but
nonetheless
I
hope
that
there
is
some
equality
between
how
much
taxes
I'm
paying
for
per
mile
of
an
EV.
As
for
a
gasoline
fuel
car,
because
that's
clearly
going
to
grow
and
I.
C
E
Yeah
yeah,
if
I,
could
add
just
just
a
little
bit,
there's
so
much
in
the
EV
world.
Right
now
that
is
evolving
and
so
much
is
I
mean
Kentucky
was
just
approved.
Our
plan
was
approved
for
the
future,
so
we're
working
with
Federal
entities
to
try
to
put
all
that
together
and
then
to
nail
down
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like
going
forward,
but
you're
absolutely
right.
The
idea
is
that
those
who
drive
an
EB
will
not
be
penalized,
but
rather
they
will
pay.
Whatever
fair
share
ultimately
comes,
and
that's.
F
C
And
by
the
way
we
late
breaking
news
from
Kenny,
the
our
plan
will
be
presented
to
the
a
r
committee
when
next
week
next
week,
good.
So
if
you
all
anybody
wants
to
listen
in
on
that
or
that
that'd
be
a
great
time,
they
have
really
done.
As
Mike
said,
they've
done
a
great
job.
I.
Think
of
we
were
one
of
the
first
plans
to
get
to
get
developed
and
presented
to
the
to
the
federal
agencies.
A
I
have
one
I
have
one
other
comment
too
on
that
engine
in
general,
I'm
hopeful,
probably
I'm,
concerned
about
what
representative
Miller
just
talked
about,
but
probably
my
biggest
concern
with
electric
vehicles
is
even
more
Global
than
that.
It's
you
know:
how
does
the
petroleum
marketers
the
the
C
stores
the
gas
stations
you
know
how
to
how
do
they
fit
in
this?
A
Are
we
you
know
are:
is
the
government
actually
taking
over
part
of
that
economy,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
when
y'all
develop
these
plans,
that
y'all
been
talking
with
the
petroleum
marketers
and
how
to
partner
in
the
future
and
what
the
future
is
going
to
look
like?
Can
y'all
comment
on
that?
Just
briefly,.
A
And
how
that's
about
the
the
the
business
model
of
you
know
charging
stations
at
what
is
our
gas
station?
For
example,
the
big
buckies?
You
know,
yeah.
E
C
That's
a
really
good,
really
really
good
Visionary
question
yeah
and
and
as
as
Mike
said
earlier,
that
you've
got
a
there
are
about
as
many
ideas
as
there
are
vendors
right
now.
C
C
You
know
they're
matching
on
our
and
on
our
federalized
projects,
as
as
many
of
you
all
know,
of
course,
they're
matching
us.
If,
if
we're
putting
up
20
the
Federal
funds
are
roughly
80
percent.
C
C
All
right,
the
sources
for
a
general
fund
support
if
you
go
down
to
the
bottom,
that's
the
big
number
that
legislature
in
the
and
the
governor
agreed
on,
which
is
really
really
really
going
to
be
important,
and
it
includes
that
11.4
million
that
we
talked
about
about
for
the
support
for
public
airports.
A
C
C
C
C
C
So
you
know,
in
addition
to
the
reporting
that
is
that's
required
here
and
Illustrated
here,
we're
doing.
We
have
the
internal
audit
feature
or
function.
C
C
C
C
This
next
one's
an
important
one
too,
both
tornado
and
the
East
Kentucky,
both
the
West
Kentucky
tornado.
We
responded
with
establishing
a
location
within
a
week
and
transitioned
into
a
permanent
location
in
Western
Kentucky.
After
the
tornado,
pop-up
units
were
making
daily
visits
to
state
parks
and
some
of
the
hardest
hit
areas
in
Eastern.
C
Kentucky
I
witnessed
myself
the
in
the
first
couple
of
days
at
the
Sports
plex
in
Knott
County,
where
we
stood
up
an
office,
a
pop-up
office,
and
there
was
a
line
of
people
that
needed
credentials
the
first
very
first
day
and
that's
continued
3,
300
plus
credentials
have
been
issued
to
flood
victims
and
it's
nearly
a
one
month.
Pop-Up
presence
has
occurred
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
since
the
flood.
C
Now,
there's
always
going
to
be.
You
know,
there's
always
going
to
be
an
ins,
a
case
where
someone's
you
know
going
to
have
experienced
a
problem
and,
oh,
my
goodness,
I
got
a
I
got
a
real
letter,
the
other
day
from
80
year
old,
lady
who-
and
she
can-
she
said,
I'm
eight
and
she
said
she'd
had
a
really
tough
experience
because
she
didn't
have
the
credential.
C
C
C
F
Absolutely
no
problem
yeah
for
the
real
ID
issuance,
the
27
of
people
issued
in
week
of
October
9th
were
real.
Ids
23
year-to-date
have
been
real,
IDs
had
a
total
number
issued
and
then
overall,
what
we've
issued
to
the
entire
State
we're
16
adoptance
rate.
Now
the
national
rate
is
hovering
right
around
51
or
52
percent.
F
These
are
the
numbers
that
we
get
from
TSA
and
DHS,
and
the
difference
is
the
way
that
we're
built
with
kind
of
a
rural
urban
composition
that
we
are
we're,
probably
going
to
fall
between
35
and
45
adoptance
rate.
The
reason
why
the
national
gets
higher
is
some
states
are
a
mandatory
real
ID
state,
so
like
Georgia,
is
at
99.9
right
now,
so
those
pull
the
overall
Nation
numbers
higher
yeah,
but
we're
tracking
exactly
where
we're
supposed
to
be.
F
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
we're
talking
about
convenience
and
time
to
be
to
get
your
driver's
license.
I
know.
At
one
point,
we
had
a
problem
with
CDLs
big
backlog
for
to
getting
people
getting
their
CDL
and
then
just
driver
testing
for
new
drivers.
Can
you
all
comment
on
what
the
current
backlogs
are
if
some
in
both
from
a
new
driver,
getting
a
driver's
test
as
well
as
a
CDL,
absolutely.
F
Him
so
the
the
big
success
that
they
had
was
on
July
6th.
They
opened
up
all
of
their
testing
locations
to
match
our
regional
office
model,
which
means
you
can
go
to
any
place
so
early
on
because
of
their
Staffing
being
as
low
as
it
was.
They
really
had
to
control
the
flow
of
of
a
population
to
certain
locations
to
keep
the
little
locations
from
being
overrun
from
the
bigger
ones.
E
F
Doubled
their
efforts,
they're
looking
to
have
Partners,
come
in
with
some
electronic
options,
we're
already
starting
to
do
testing
on
or
they're
starting
to
do,
testing
on
iPads
that'll
automatically
upload
to
the
driving
record.
So
we're
learning
ways
to
streamline
that
process,
and
we
certainly
made
CDL
Drivers
a
priority
there
for
a
while.
F
When
that
backlog
for
credentials,
we
we
made
a
CDL
only
line
so
that
way
when
they
came,
they
would
go
essentially
to
the
fast
pass
and
they
would
go
straight
to
the
front
of
the
line
so
we're
in
much
better
shape
now
with
CDLs
than
where
we
were.
Obviously,
we
need
about
46
000,
more
CDL,
Drivers
Nationwide,
so
we're
ready
for
them.
They
just
need
to
come
see
us
we'll
be
glad
to
take
care
of.
D
I'd
I'm
going
to
say
for
the
record
what
I've
said
before
our
bifurcated
set
of
IDs,
which
was
a
compromise
thing
after
some
nonsense,
politics
is
going
to
backfire
Royal,
it's
the
first
time,
I've
seen
statistics
on
this
and
you
mark
it
down
we're
going
to
have
constituents
who
are
going
to
want
to
travel
or
go
somewhere
and
they
won't
be
able
to
do
what
they
thought
they
were
going
to
be
able
to
do
because
it's
a
confusion.
It's
a
confusing
bifurcated
option
here
and.
F
F
C
D
Was
the
legislature
did
that
and
it
was
stupid
for
us
to
do
so
so
people
are
gonna?
What
I'm
my
question
is
this
or
my
request?
Is
this
I'd,
like
you
all,
to
the
extent
that
you
think
you
can
find
ways
or
think
of
ways
to
track
or
identify
how
many
people
run
into
that
problem?
Now
that
may
not
be
something
you
can
track,
but.
D
There
there's
going
to
come
a
time
when
I
says
I
assume
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
there's
going
to
come
time
when
the
legislature
is
going
to
be
asked
to
get
rid
of
the
old
standard.
Yep
and
it'd
be
nice
to
have
data
to
show
just
how
often
it's
a
pain
in
the
neck,
because
I
know
exactly
who's.
Gonna
get
the
phone
calls
when
the
constituents
at
the
airport
and
can't
get
through
the
security
line
right.
F
D
F
D
B
F
Have
a
real
ID,
so
they've
started
an
industry
and
that's
the
biggest
thing
is
I
still
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
who
are
mad
because
I'm
making
them
get
a
real
ID
and
I
tell
them
I
I'm,
not
doing
that
and
they're
like
I,
don't
go
anywhere
and
I.
Don't
do
anything.
Why
are
you
making
me
do
this
and
I
said
it's?
Not
it's
a
voluntary
thing.
Our
biggest
thing
is
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
knowledgeable
to
why
you
need
real
ID
yeah.
F
So
when
May
3rd
of
next
year
comes
around
and
somebody
wants
to
get
on
a
you
know
a
commercial
domestic
flight,
they
want
to
enter
restricted,
Federal
Building.
If
they
want
to
go
to
military
bases,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
they
have
the
right
credential
and
we're
prepared
to
issue
that
to
them.
But
right
now
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
share
that
knowledge
with
the
with
your
constituents
to
make
sure
that
they
can
make
the
right
decision.
D
Want
to
commend
you
before
I
yield
the
mic
again,
that
I
haven't
gotten
quite
as
many
complaints
out
of
the
Christian
County
office
and
Sarah
I
want
to
tell
both
of
you
and
Matt
that
I
appreciate
your
efforts
to
to
improve
the
operation
and
I
know.
That's
not
the
only
place
where
things
have
been
bubbling
up,
but
it's
hard
to
stand
up
all
those
office,
but
I'm
offices
around
the
state
but
I'm
thankful
for
the
work
that's
been
put
into
it.
Thank
you,
chairman.
G
F
G
Not
going
to
take
long
but
I
do
want
to
remind
you
all,
because
I'm
reminded
every
day
of
this,
that
this
switch
to
a
regional
issuance
model
has
an
only
represented
a
sea
change
for
your
constituents
and
for
all
of
us.
But
it's
been
one
of
the
most
significant
business
process.
Changes
ever
presented
to
a
state
government
front
facing
agency,
it's
huge.
So
it
is
no
wonder
you're
hearing
from
constituents
and
we
are
working
very,
very
hard.
It
is
still
evolving.
G
We
have
lots
of
questions
to
ask
and
we're
still
studying
everything
relative
to
the
program,
so
we're
at
that
phase.
Now,
where
there
are
32
offices
up
twice
as
many
as
were
originally
conceived
and
we're
asking
is
the
ratio
of
walk-ins
to
appointments
is,
is
is
at
each
regional
office.
It's
different.
Is
it
working
for
that
office?
Is
the
line
management
necessary
at
an
office
or
our
employees,
processing
skills
up
to
par
or
our
customer
service
skills
up
to
par?
G
So
I
want
you
to
know
that
we're
really
really
working
on
making
it
even
better,
but
we
also
have,
as
you
pointed
out,
Senator
time
factors
that
we've
got
to
work
on,
which
is
getting
the
real
ID
messaging
out
and
we're
going
to
reach
out
as
much
as
we
can
not
only
with
an
advertising
campaign.
I've
worked
for
the
last
week
on
a
kind
of
a
letter.
G
But
there
will
be
people
that
will
still
not
have
heard
the
message
and
I
think
TSA
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
secondary
screening,
probably
for
everybody,
but
they
have
a
method
in
place.
If
someone
shows
up
at
the
airport,
that
doesn't
mean
those
people
are
going
to
get
a
pass
that
day
they
may
but
we'll
work
very,
very
hard
at
it.
G
So
I
want
to
thank
on
behalf
of
the
cabinet
I
know,
and
secretary
gray
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
the
legislature
for
working
with
us
and
getting
us
those
complaints
get
and
Senator
Westerfield.
You
helped
enormously
in
that
area,
but
I
do
I,
really
no
I
I
mean
I
am
very,
very
grateful.
No
I'm
very
grateful
for
your
concern
and
your
help.
G
I
tell
the
transportation
committees
that
all
of
the
time
we
could
not
have
gotten
better
and
even
gotten
to
this
point
without
the
support,
the
assistance
and
the
help,
and
we
will
still
keep
tweaking
it.
So
please
call
us
anytime,
I,
think
we're
starting
to
see
35
percent
issuance
some
days
and
I'm
really
thrilled
with
that.
So
we're
we're
getting
there
and
it
and
considering
we
were
at
about
one
percent
in
January
of
2020
it
it's
grown
considerably.
G
So
what
I
look
at
is
the
issuance
each
day
the
current
issuance
rates.
We
get
the
numbers
every
day
and
I.
Look
at
that
to
see.
Where
are
we
towards
that
35
percent
and
it
is,
it
is
creeping
up.
We
have
lots
of
33
and
35
percent
days.
You
know
it's
just
we've,
given
you
averages
here.
So
that's
all.
If
you
have
any
questions
of
me
as
a
real
ID
project
manager,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them,
but
I
did
want
to
express
our
thanks
to
you
and
your
colleagues,
but.
A
A
Regional
Offices
I
just
want
to
make
sure
on
that,
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
question
is
I've.
Had
this
asked
by
constituents
multiple
times
and
I,
don't
expect
you
to
have
this
off
the
top
of
your
head,
but
the
the
switch
do
we
have
any
any
dollar
any
cost
on
what
this
is
it
an
increase?
This
increase
in
bureaucracy?
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
or
government,
what
is
the
cost
of
pulling
these
into
Regional
Offices
versus
the
circuit
court
clerk's
office,
processing
IDs?
Has
that
even
been
looked
at
it.
C
F
Cost
a
little
more
but
also
we're
we're
Revenue
generating,
so
just
the
Department
of
Vehicle
regulation
brings
in
320
million
dollars
a
year.
So
you
know
as
long
as
it's
allocated
to
our
budget,
then
then
we
can
use
those
funds
to
cover
the
needs
which
we
really
think
we're
in
a
good
position
right
now.
This
is
going
to
be
where
we
kind
of
hold
for
a
second
to
let
the
full
load
of
Staffing
hit
the
full
load
of
of
Angel
office
cost
and
then
evaluate
it
as
we
go.
F
F
That's
some
of
the
Innovation
that
we
want
to
push
forward
because
now
we
know,
judge
executives
are
interested
in
getting
involved.
County
clerks
are
involved
wanting
to
get
involved
and
we
tell
them.
If
you
have
a
laptop
you
can
you
can
be
the
one
that
helps
that
person
get
issue
that
license
today
through
those
renewal
processes,
and
that
means
they
can
be
Hands-On
helping
constituents
and
and
people
love
that
right.
C
I
really
am
glad
Sarah
and
Sarah
and
Matt
were
here
because
I
promised
Sarah
that
I
would
I
would
really
really
punctuate
how
good
a
job
they've
done
despite
difficulties,
you
know
and
and
I
didn't,
do
it
as
as
well
as
she
did,
because.
A
C
C
She
said
at
the
same
time
that
the
staff
at
the
regional
office
that
she
was
dealing
with
the
woman
that
she
was
dealing
with
was
just
as
courteous
as
could
be,
and
but
she
didn't
have
the
documents
that
she
needed
or
that
were
required.
So
at
the
same
so
I've,
while
we've
gotten
complaints,
we
have
also
gotten
a
lot
of
people,
write
us
and
communicate
with
us
about
how
efficient
the
process
was
for
them.
C
B
A
Sir
okay,
yes,
sir,
the
are
there
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
here.
Here's
what
here's,
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and
to
be
quite
honest
with
you,
this
whole
interim,
every
group
that's
come
before
us
has
just
given
us
a
lot
of
information
and
really
what
this
was
about
is
kind
of
as
much
learning
on
our
part
as
it
is
reporting
and
seeing
how
we
can
help
suggest
things
in
the
future.
A
So
the
the
number
one
thing
is:
if
y'all
have
any
reorg
or
anything
of
that
nature
related
to
legislation
coming
in
the
future.
We'd
like
to
know
about
that.
We
have
given
the
members
a
chance
to
write
questions,
give
questions
back
to
staff
over
the
next
week
and
then
we'll
submit
them
to
you
all
and
then
we'll
get
those
answered
back.
A
There
may
be
a
situation
to
where
we
might
have
a
sliver
of
your
organization
come
back
next
month
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
is
there's
I,
really,
don't
think,
there's
a
reason
for
the
whole
staff
to
come,
but
the
particular
things
that
we
might
have
questions
about,
because
this
is
unbelievably
large
organization.
It's
hard
for
us
to
get
our
hands
around
it,
and
this
will
do
some
good
to
go
home
and
read
up
on
this
and
try
to
come
up
with
some
questions.
E
C
B
D
I
appreciate
that
acknowledgment
I've
already
made
a
note
here
to
reach
out
to
your
office,
Mr
secretary
or
to
Kenny
and
and
have
a
one-on-one
one
of
these
and
go
back
through
this
entire
slide
deck,
because
they're
a
ton
of
questions,
I
left
on
the
table
that
aren't
specifically
related
to
efficiency,
but
that
I
have
I'm
curious
about
the
I.T
Arrangement
that
exists
Within
kytc.
D
How
many
systems
do
you
have?
Are
you
using
cot,
for
everything
is
something
in-house?
Do
you
use
Engineers
internally
and
is
it?
Is
it
operating
as
efficiently
as
you'd
like
where
I
mean
the?
As
I've
said,
and
literally
every
agency's
come
in
here
and
I've
asked
this
exact
same
question
or
some
form
of
it?
D
C
Gonna
I'm
gonna,
let
Heather
speak,
but
I
will
just
do
a
bit
of
a
of
a
headline
that
Heather
Stout
is
she's.
Really
amazing.
C
Now
you
all
think
I'm
just
patting
people
on
the
back,
but
she's
really
amazed
just
like
I'm,
not
saying
everybody
in
the
room,
but
because
they
are
but
Heather's
team
is
I
mean
anybody
in
the
private
sector
would
be
lucky
to
have
have
her
and
the
people
that
and
she's
she's
had
the
opportunity
to
have
some
really
talented
people
work
for
her
and
they
have
gone
on
to
other
agencies
in
state
government.
C
B
You
Senator
Westerfield
I,
have
about
110
staff
for
I.T
and
transportation
and
80
of
those
are
contract
employees,
and
we
have
moved
consistently
towards
more
contract
employees
due
to
ability
to
find
skilled
resources
and
be
able
to
pay
a
rate.
That's
more
commiserate
with
the
private
sector,
we're
still
not
quite
even
at
that
level,
but
we're
very
close
in
comparison.
B
The
challenges
we're
having
currently
as
we
moved
out
of
the
pandemic
I.T
became
very
competitive
in
the
market
wildly
competitive
and
the
replacement
of
those
resources
when
we
used
to
be
able
to
do
in
a
couple
of
weeks
is
now
months
and
that
challenges
us
on
some
of
our
projects
is.
B
We
would
get
eight
or
ten
resumes
within
a
week
interview
and
probably
in
two
to
three
weeks,
have
somebody
Chosen
and
hired
now
we're
getting
two
resumes,
not
necessarily
finding
the
good
candidate
that
we
want
so
we're
waiting
and
it's
churning
and
we've
got
business
analyst
requests
out
that
are
still
open
three
months
later
at
this
point,
so
I've
encouraged
our
vendors
to
try
harder
and
dig
deeper,
but
it's
been
really
challenging
to
backfill
some
of
our
highly
skilled
Architects
and
development
and
analyst
resources.
B
D
B
I
think
it
depends
on
the
service
and
how
they
calculate
their
rate.
I
know
that
in
the
past
couple
years,
Ruth
has
a
really
driven
down
some
of
the
rates
in
some
categories
and
they're
increased
in
other
categories,
because
they're
trying
to
realize
where
those
where
their
money
is
being
spent
I
think
some
of
their
rights
are
more
expensive
than
the
private
sector
storage
for
instance.
So
we
have
moved
some
of
our
storage
off
to
the
cloud
and
some
that
needs.
B
D
B
Well,
I
was
just
you
asked
about
efficiencies
that
we
see
we.
We
are
constantly
working
with
our
business
areas.
B
We
have
a
resource,
that's
kind
of
dedicated
on
the
vehicle
regulation
side,
and
now
we
have
one
on
our
Highway
side
that
we're
trying
to
get
more
involved
in
the
day-to-day
things
that
are
occurring
so
that
we
can
offer
more
assistance
and
learn
about
everything
that's
going
on
throughout
the
cabinet,
because
it's
it's
a
real
challenge
with
this
number
of
people
to
know
everything
that's
happening,
that
we
can
help
with.
B
We
have
over
120
applications
that
we
maintain
and
support
and
over
time
we're
either
adding
or
you
know,
transitioning
to
new
applications.
My.
B
B
List
I
figured
it
was,
and
also
driver's
licensing
is
on
that
Pipeline
and
motor
carriers,
so
we
also
have
80
applications
that
fall
into
our
DOT
net.
This
is
getting
a
little
technical.net
world
that
has
their
own
life
cycle
and
those
are
managed
bar
application
development
branch
and
they
try
to
keep
those
updated
as
much
as
possible,
and
then
we
also
we
have
projects
going
regularly
as
we
get
too
much
technical
debt
to
modernize
those.
B
If
I
had
the
number
of
resources
that
I
wanted,
we
would
probably
have
a
couple
more
or
at
least
enhancements
to
existing
apps
to
help
we've
got
a
backlog
of
projects
in
it.
That
would
be
very
helpful
to
our
business
areas,
but
we
can
only
manage
seven
to
eight
large
projects
at
one
time
and
just
with
the
resources
that
we
have
and
all
the
maintenance
and
everything
that
we
have.
So
some
of
those
requested
projects
are
not
in
priority
right
now.
B
B
Well,
initially,
we
want
to
Cave
us
to
be
finished
the
end
of
this
year.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
summer
heard.
B
I
know
I
know
it's
so
complex.
We
have
implemented
quite
a
bit
with
kavis.
B
Well,
if
that
was
seven
years
ago,
that's
when
we
were
really
starting
the
project,
but
since
that
time
we've
implemented
the
boat,
tiling
and
registration
system.
So
it's
completely
off
the
Mainframe
we've
implemented
disabled
placards,
it's
completely
off
the
Mainframe.
We
migrated
all
the
county
clerks
to
a
standard
point
of
sale
solution,
so
all
of
the
financial
receipts
go
only
through
that
KVs
point
of
sale
solution.
So
now
what
we're
focused
on
is
the
remaining
vehicles.
It
looks.
The
system
looks
great.
It's
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
to
wrap
it
up.
D
Are
they
just
not
built?
Are
they
being
tested
all.
B
Of
the
above
there's,
some
that
are
currently
being
analyzed
to
be
completed
to
be
built.
There's
a
lot
of
testing
already
going
on.
We
test
every
three
weeks.
We
have
three
week,
Sprint
iterations,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
testing
already
a
lot
of
training
that
needs
to
occur
with
the
county.
Clerks
I
mean
there's
it's
it's
a
giant
effort,
yeah.
D
And
and
then
I
guess,
like
my
last
question,
if
you
can
and
then
I'll
I
won't
say,
I'll
yield
the
mic
for
Forever
Mr
chairman,
but
is
there?
Is
there
anything
efficiency-wise
you
wish
you
had
or
that
you,
you
think
that
the
legislature
should
be
doing
money?
Is
the
easy
answer
to
the
question
and
you'd
be
surprised
that
not
a
single
one
of
the
agencies
that
has
preceded
you
has
asked
for
anything
until
I've
spelled
out.
D
B
Well,
a
big
challenge
that
we
have
with
legislation
is
mandated
effective
dates
and
it's
not
because
we
can't
necessarily
meet
the
effective
date.
It's
that
sometimes
those
the
way
that
we
need
to
implement
the
projects
doing
Pilots
or
the
date
that
you
know
if
it's
effective,
January
2024,
but
really
it
would
be
better
implemented
on
a
fiscal
year
or
January
10th.
B
Because
of
resourcing-
and
you
know
we
we
get
kind
of
specified
into
those
dates
and
it
makes
it
challenging
for
us
to
to
know
how
to
best
manage
that
project
without
being
out
of
compliance.
B
E
B
A
C
A
I
appreciate
you
being
prepared
and
questions
and
being
being
here
for
us
and
I
know
this
costs
a
lot
of
money
to
have
the
staff
here
and
and
do
this
and
we're
appreciative
and
we'll
we'll
prepare
some
questions,
I'm
sure
submit
them
and
we'll
get
them
back
to
your
office
for
responses.
So
if
there
are
not
any
other
questions,
We
Stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So
much.