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And
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you
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
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before
we
begin
remind
everybody
to
put
their
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phones
on
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that
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appearing
remotely.
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remember
to
mute
your
computers,
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when
you're
talking,
so
we
eliminate
some
of
the
feedback
on
it.
Madam
secretary,
will
you
call
the
role
please.
C
B
A
Second
motion
has
been
duly
motioned
and
seconded
in
discussion
all
right,
all
those
in
favor.
B
A
Aye
minutes
approved
at
this
time
I'd
like
to
turn
this
over
to
the
folks
from
the
kentucky
department
of
library
and
archives.
Will
you
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
please
and
go
ahead
and
begin.
C
B
E
I
want
to
thank
you
for
inviting
us
to
come,
speak
to
you
today
and
we
I
got
quite
a
few
slides,
but
we'll
try
to
get
them
through
them
pretty
quickly,
so
that
you
have
time
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Firstly,
well,
let's
it's
working.
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F
F
B
E
First,
I'd
like
to
get
off
with
just
a
little
background
by
the
department
for
libraries
and
archives.
We
as
an
agency
serve
the
informational
needs
of
the
commonwealth
by
sharing
equitable
access
to
high
quality
library
and
information
resources
services
and
by
assisting
public
agencies
in
creation
retention,
preservation
of
essential
governmental
records.
We
are
one
of
ten
states
in
the
nation
that
have
a
combined
libraries
and
archives.
E
We're
here
to
talk
about
the
local
records
program
and,
first
off
we'll
start
with
some
history
of
it.
The
local
records
program
was
started
in
1984
by
the
general
assembly,
with
the
passage
of
house
bill
26,
the
house
committee
substitute
it
authorized
the
department
for
libraries
and
archives
to
to
accept
administer
funds
for
records
management,
programs
in
state
and
local
agencies.
E
E
Currently
in
2006,
an
additional
one
dollar
fee
was
established
by
the
legislature
for
the
program
the
fee
is
collected
by
the
clerks
as
a
pass-through
under
krs
142.010,
section
5.
general
fund
appropriations
for
the
local
records
program
were
terminated
in
2018
as
part
of
a
budget
reduction.
This
led
to
a
decrease
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
approximately
it
varied
somewhat,
and
so,
if
the
only
funding
that
remains
for
the
program
is
the
one
dollar
pass-through
fee
collected
by
the
clerks,
there
is
no
cost
to
the
clerks
associated
with
this
program.
E
There
were
several
questions
that
were
asked
for
this
presentation,
and
one
was
about
agency
eligibility
under
statute.
The
statute
under
which
this
program
was
created,
all
local
agencies
are
eligible
and
local
agencies
is
what's
specified
in
statute.
No
specific
agency
is
actually
specified
in
statute
and
that's
under
171
520
subsection.
One
k,
the
kar.
The
governors
governs
also
says
that
any
local
government
office
interested
in
improving
management
and
preservation
of
its
public
records
is
eligible
to
apply
for
a
grant
these
right.
E
These
statute
and
regulations
have
not
been
modified
since
1986,
so
it's
probably
pretty
reasonable
to
assume
that
this
represents
the
will
of
the
legislature.
At
the
time
local
agency
is
defined
in
krs
61.080
to
be
every
local
office
division,
bureau,
board,
commission
authority,
county
city,
government
body,
council,
school
district
board
special
district
board
municipal
corporation.
I
won't
go
through
the
list.
E
Basically
it's
just
about
every
kind
of
local
agency
that
exists
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
including
state
or
local
authorities
that
derive
at
least
25
of
their
funds
from
state
or
local,
local,
local
funding.
So,
basically,
under
this
under
statute,
there
are
about
2
900,
different
local
agencies
that
are
potentially
eligible
for
funding
under
this
program.
That
includes
the
120
clerks
offices.
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We
have
approximately
80
to
90
percent
of
the
older
records
in
in
safe
storage,
copies
of
them
in
safe
storage.
At
kdla,
when
we
reaffirmed
we
decided
that
we
provide
equitable
services
to
all
local
agencies.
We
provide
grants
to
all
eligible
local
agencies
under
statute.
We
will
ensure
that
safe
procurement
statutes
were
filed
for
all
successful
applicants.
We
will
ensure
that
grant
participants
were
accountable
for
grant
expenditures.
We
would
ensure
transparency
in
all
aspects
of
the
program
and
we
will
ensure
that
all
any
local
agency
could
apply
using
the
guidelines
forms
found
on
our
website.
E
Applicants
are
encouraged
to
design
a
program
that
can
be
done
in
18
months
and
if
it
can't
be
done
in
18
months,
we
encourage
them
to
divide
it
up
into
sections
and
apply
for
each
section
in
a
different
cycle,
so
they
can
do
it.
In
18
months
chunks
by
regulation,
there
are
nine
project
categories,
security,
microfilm
for
vital
or
historically
significant
records.
E
The
national
standard
for
preserving
records
is
microfilm
that
has
not
changed.
Microfilm
sounds
old,
but
one
good
thing
about
microfilm
is-
and
this
is
a
very
important
consideration-
is
that
it
is
eye
readable
if
something
happens
to
electronic
records
or
your
means
to
read
the
electronic
records
they
are
lost
with
microfilm.
As
long
as
you've
got
a
magnifying
glass,
you
can
read
those
records
they
also
last.
The
film
does
for
hundreds,
if
not
thousands
of
years.
So
it's
very
important.
E
There
are
basically
three
different
kinds
of
records
that
we
deal
with
in
this
program.
The
first
is
a
vital
record.
It
is
not
necessarily
historical
and
it
is
not
necessarily
a
permanent
record,
but
it's
a
record
that
is
urgent.
That
is
essential
for
the
operation
of
the
agency.
This
would
be
such
as
school
records,
while
it's
not
important
to
everybody.
What
your
transcript
looks
like
it's
terribly
important
to
the
student
involved.
So
that's
why
those
are
important.
Then
we
have
historically
significant
and
permanent
records.
E
These
are
records
that
have
historical
importance
like
the
letter
from
abraham
lincoln.
That's
shown
there
that
it
would
also
be
a
permanent
record.
Then
we
have
less
than
permanent,
but
historically
significant
records.
These
are
records
that
would
not
necessarily
have
to
be
kept
in
their
original
form
under
statute,
but
which,
because
of
the
historical
significance,
this
one
being
signed
by
thomas
jefferson,
we
would
want
to
actually
certainly
preserve.
E
The
process
for
awarding
the
grants,
applica
applications
are
reviewed
by
the
local
records
grant
review
committee,
which
ranks
the
application
and
makes
a
funding
recommendation
to
the
state,
library's
archives
and
records.
Commission.
The
local
records
grant
review
committee
is
made
up
of
now
seven
members
that
was
actually
used
to
be
fewer,
but
it
was
just
expanded.
E
The
new
records
commission,
through
records
review
committee,
has
three
clerks
one
one
person
from
the
library,
association
or
kea
one
city
person,
one
person
with
a
historical
society
or
the
kentucky
council
archives
and
one
person
from
law
enforcement.
The
library's
archives
and
records
commission
is
appointed
by
the
governor
under
statute.
E
E
E
The
grant
review
criteria-
the
first
one
is
urgency
of
the
problem.
If
there
are
records
that
are
in
danger
of
being
destroyed
either
because
they
are
old,
they
are
overly
handled.
They
are
in
stored
in
poor
condition,
whatever
those
are
the
ones
that
always
get
first
consideration.
Once
a
record
is
gone,
it
is
gone,
it
must
be.
The
primary
consideration
in
trying
to
save
these
records
is
preserving
records
that
are
in
danger.
E
The
funding
for
the
program
has
not
been
well,
it's
never
constant
because
it's
based
on
a
fee,
that's
collected
and
also
in
this
next
slide.
You
can
see.
In
2018
we
had
a
significant
drop
of
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
when
the
general
funds
appropriation
was
was
eliminated,
so
we
fell
down
to
to
to
basically
the
one
funding
type.
E
E
In
2021,
we
had
a
cycle
which
the
clerks
referenced
in
their
presentation,
where
very
few
grants
were
awarded
and
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
bit,
but
we
are,
they
did
not
include
because,
probably
because
it
was
so
recent,
the
2022
cycle,
one
award,
which
has
been
increased
considerably
the
cycle
one
award,
which
is
the
only
award
we
made
this
year,
then
this
funding
cycle
is
a
four
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars.
E
So
we
are
well
on
track
to
going
back
to
awarding
about
a
million
dollars
a
year,
which
is
what
we
were
previously
awarded.
Our
anticipated
revenue
this
year
is
972
000
and
we
will
probably
come
very
very
close
to
awarding
all
that
assuming
we
get
good
applications.
E
Some
additional
information,
and
again
we
just
discussed
this
prior
to
2018.
We
received
200
000
annually
in
general
funds
for
making
local
grants
that
was
eliminated
after
2018..
The
elimination
obviously
led
to
a
decrease
in
the
amount
of
funding
we
had
available
for
award
as
part
of
the
application
process.
Applicants
must
solicit
and
receive
estimates
or
bids
for
each
project
and
bidding
must
comply
with
statutory
requirements
and
krs
45a
360.
E
E
The
reason
that
they
that
the
funding
was
reduced,
61
percent
of
the
applications
that
were
submitted
did
not
meet
the
state
procurement
guidelines
who
say
procurement
statute,
so
we
could
not
award
them
funds.
A
couple
of
them
submitted
incorrect
materials.
A
couple
of
them
had
grants
that
were
still
open
that
had
not
been
closed.
You're
only
able
to
have
one
grant
at
any
given
time,
one
person
submitted
a
grant,
and
now
these
are
not
just
clerks.
These
are
from
all
the
agencies.
E
One
applicant
submitted
a
application
that
had
been
previously
funded.
Part
of
the
material
work
had
already
been
done,
and
then
we
had
the
two
applications
that
were
funded.
E
In
2022
cycle,
one
things
changed
a
lot.
We
had
really
pushed
to
inform
people
about
how
they
had
to
do
in
order
to
be
able
to
meet
the
45a
requirements
so
that
we
could
actually
go
ahead
and
award
the
grants
in
2022
cycle
1.
We
had
25
applications
that
were
submitted,
23
were
awarded,
so
it's
exact
opposite
of
the
previous
cycle.
In
that
11
client
clerks
received
a
total
of
two
hundred
twelve
thousand
dollar,
two
hundred
twelve
thousand
six
hundred
sixty
three
dollars.
E
E
The
kentucky
local
records
grant
program
is
a
national
model
for
local
records,
preservation
and
accessibility.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
the
work
and
the
men
are
originally
intended
by
the
legislature
and
to
to
to
stress
this
point.
We
use
absolutely
none
of
the
money
for
administrative
costs.
We
use
none
for
staff
salaries,
we
use
none
for
supplies,
we
use
none
for
travel.
One
hundred
percent
of
the
money
collected
through
this
one
dollar
fee
is
used
for
to
to
fund
eligible
local
agencies.
E
One
hundred
percent
of
the
funds
not
used
in
any
grant
cycle
is
carried
forward
to
the
next
and
100
of
the
funds
remaining
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
are
carried
forward
to
the
next
fiscal
year.
They
are
never
used
for
any
other
purposes
than
those
laid
out
in
statute
and
regulation
for
the
grant
program.
E
Return
on
investment
was
discussed
at
the
last
presentation.
Local
government
officials
have
in
their
custody
many
irreplaceable
one-of-a-kind
records.
These
records
exist
in
different
formats,
such
as
paper,
film
or
electronic
media,
regardless
of
the
format,
the
safety
and
maintenance
of
each
record
can
be
threatened
by
disasters
such
as
fire,
flood
theft
and
vandalism.
E
E
We
have
the
these
microfilm
records,
it's
a
vault
of
microfilm
records,
and
these
microfiber
records
are
a
security
backup
for
filming
done
as
a
portion
of
each
grant
funded
project
and
other
projects
clerks,
do
their
own
projects
and
submit
the
film
to
us
to
us
for
safe
keeping.
These
materials
are
held
in
a
fireplace,
secure,
climate-controlled
environment.
Our
building
is
also
rated
to
withstand
a
category
four
hurricane,
so
we're
pretty
good
shape,
or
currently
we
hold
sixty
two
thousand
seven
and
eight
two
year
olds,
microfilm
for
the
county
clerks
alone.
E
E
We
also
have
the
archives
research
room
in
our
research
area.
We
have
approximately
53
000
rolls
of
county
clerk
microfilm
available
to
the
public,
and
that
number
is
wrong.
The
correct
number
is
71
000
rolls
of
microfilm.
We
discovered
that
after
the
presentation
was
done,
we
had
a
miscount
creation
of
these
records
was
enabled
through
local
grant
projects
as
part
of
the
project.
The
record
the
film
is
created
for
us
to
house
there,
operation
costs,
including
staff
salaries,
is
funded
by
kdla
through
other
sources.
E
Besides
clerk's
fees
based
on
only
the
51
000
rolls
not
the
71
000,
but
we
have
over
300
million
images
stored
on
these
microfilms.
That's
a
lot
we
have
electronic
records.
Kdla
holds
nine
million
one
hundred
ninety
nine
thousand
one
hundred
sixty
seven
digital
records
for
the
county,
clerk's
offices.
E
E
Eight
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
nine
hundred
eleven
electronic
documents
are
cities,
a
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
thirty
834
electronic
documents
for
for
the
court
system
and
over
10
000
electronic
documents
for
various
other
local
agencies.
This
amounts
to
5
175
gigabytes
of
data
for
non-clerk
agencies.
All
of
this
is
housed
locally
by
kdla.
E
All
storage
fees
for
this
material
is
paid
by
kdla
through
non-grant
resources.
Storage
costs
are
never
passed
on
to
local
offices,
nor
are
they
paid
for
by
local
records.
Grant
funding
some
of
the
awards
that
we've
made
beyond
the
millions
of
worry
for
security,
microfilm
and
preservation.
We've
funded
154
electronic
systems
grants
to
79
county
clerks
totaling
over
3.6
million
dollars.
E
E
Additional
services
that
we
provide
to
local
agencies
at
no
cost
of
the
agency,
we
assist
with
the
appropriate
records
retention
schedule
for
destruction
of
obsolete
records.
We
provide
records
management,
education
training
through
that
presentation
and
workshops.
We
provide
guidance
for
the
creation
of
local
records
management
programs.
We
provide
directions,
management,
consultation,
services.
E
A
You've
done
a
really
good
job
of
outlining
this
stuff
in
in
the
interest
of
making
sure
we
have
enough
time
in
our
committee
to
to
address
everyone's
needs.
I
know
we
have
some
questions
that
need
to
be
so
if
you
would
be
okay
with
cutting
your
your
presentation
short
now,
and
if
we
can
move
it
more
into
some
people's
questions
that
might
be
as
effective,
we
can
always
refer
back
to
these
materials,
as
as
we
as
we
need
to.
E
Absolutely
I
would
like
to
make
one
quick
last
statement
please,
and
that
is
that
we
actually
support
very
strongly
the
modernization
of
the
clerk's
offices.
However,
we
feel
it
would
be
a
tragedy
to
cut
off
the
other
agencies
that
are
in
desperate
need
of
these
services,
such
as
schools,
sheriff's
departments,
police
departments,
fire
departments
and
cities,
but
we
are
very,
very
regular,
ready
to
support
the
clerks
and
assist
them
in
any
way
we
possibly
can
so
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
a
question
from
senator
greeley.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
you
mentioned
that
I
guess
micro
microfilm
is
still
the
primary
backup
mechanism
for
these
records.
Do
you
know
how
much
of
the
I
mean
I
know
most
of
the
more
modern
records
are
are
stored
electronically
in
the
clerk's
office.
E
All
most
of
the
records
that
we
have
that
I
mentioned
earlier
are
digitization
of
microfilm.
That
would
be
the
9
million
records
that
we
have
done.
Most
of
that
is
a
duplicate
of
what
we
have
on
microfilm,
some
of
it
isn't,
but
the
majority
of
it
is
and
that's
something
we're
certainly
moving
toward.
We
are
encouraging
clerks
when
they
do
a
project
to
digitize,
so
it'll
be
available
for
to
them
and
for
available
in
our
facility.
Also.
B
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
be
permitted
to
brief
follow-up
sure,
to
what
extent
are
are
those
records
accessible
for
public
searches?
For
you
know,
title
searches
and
that
type
of
thing
from
a
local
clerk's
office.
E
If
they,
if
the
clerks
have
them
locally,
then
it's
up
to
the
clerk,
how
how
much
accessibility
they
provide
part
of
the
agreement
we
have
with
the
clerks
for
receiving
a
lot
of
these
records
digitally
is
that
we
do
not
make
them
available
digitally
because
the
clerks
want
to
keep
the
records
local
in
their
offices.
So
most
of
the
records
that
we
have
are
not
available
to
the
public
digitally
they.
B
Sure,
okay,
and
would
you
be
able
to
do
like
just
a
regular?
Do
you
all
have
a
program
in
the
archives
that
would
enable
a
member
of
the
general
public
to
to
like
search
via
a
name
or
something
like
a
grantor
or
grantee
type
searches?
You
would
be
able
to
do
in
a
normal
and
a
regular
clerk's
office.
E
We
have
two
different
programs
in
our
facility,
one
of
which
we're
right
now,
currently
implementing
we've
been
working
right
now
for
implementing
an
electronic
program
is
quite
time
consuming
expensive
and
we've
been
implementing
for
about
two
years
and
it'll
facilitate
access
right
now
it,
the
the
best
access
is
still
at
the
clerk's
office.
A
Sure
thing
I
have
a
follow-up
question
on
that.
Commissioner,
you
mentioned
that
the
clerks
had
access
to
this
information.
What
about
the
entities?
The
grant
recipients
that
are
not
part
of
the
clerk's
office
is
where,
where
does
the
public
access
to
these
records
come
to
come
from
for
them?
And
what,
if
anything,
does
your
your
department
do
to
make
sure
that
the
public
does
have
access
to
those
records.
E
Well,
it
depends
on
the
record.
Some
of
the
records
are
like
police
records
may
or
may
not
be
subject
or
maybe
partially
subject
to
public
disclosure.
Most
of
the
records
that
we
maintain
for
other
agencies.
We
do
for
security,
backup
and
are
available
and
part
of
the
grant
process
is
they
have
to
agree
to
make
them
available
to
the
public
at
the
facility
at
their
facility.
Most
of
the
records
we
have
are
held
for
purely
for
security
reasons.
E
A
E
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
have
two
actually,
mr
chair
and
mine,
relate
to
the
funding
piece
of
this,
and,
and
so
terry
you
mentioned
in
the
earliest
slides
that
house
bill
26
set
a
fee
for
legal
process
tax
from
one
to
three
dollars
and
then
in
2006
there
was
an
additional
one
dollar
fee
established.
F
E
F
Because
I
think
what
I
I
find
interesting
in
that
that
part
of
it-
and
if
it's
legal
process
tax
on
non-marriage
records,
that
could
be
a
ton
of
different
records,
it
might
not
all
be
county
clerk's
office
records,
it
could
be
records
from
other
areas.
But
if
we're
now
in
a
position
since
2006,
where
the
one
dollar
fee
is
all
that
you
all
are
receiving
from
that,
I
think
we're
looking
at
two
different
systems.
E
As
more
and
more
local
agencies
become
more
aware
of
the
program
because
we
are
promoting
it
to
more
local
agencies
as
we're
actually
required
to
in
statute.
Additional
funding
from
other
sources
certainly
would
be
welcome.
We
was
something
we
certainly
we've
been
willing
to
look
at.
F
Well,
like
I
said
it
just
seems
to
me
that
if
you
look
at
the
way
it
was
originally
set
up
and
based
on
the
funding
sources
originally
set
up,
it
may
not
mirror
what
your
funding
sources
are
now
and
the
the
applicable
uses.
So
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
a
good
glimpse
of.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
I've
got
a
couple
that
I've
I'd
like
to
address
what
resources
available
to
potential
applicants
to
help
walk
them
through
this
process.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
commend
you
and
thank
you
for
taking
your
department
through
the
actual
procurement
process
and
making
that
more
formal,
more
official,
that's
very
much
appreciated,
but
what
resources
are
available
to
help
applicants
walk
through
this
process.
E
We
have
material
on
our
website
which
they
can
go
to
which
addresses
it
somewhat.
We
also
provide
training.
We
have
four
field
representatives
right
now.
Two
of
the
positions
are
empty,
but
we
have
normally.
We
have
four
field
representatives
that
do
training
and
are
available
for
consultation
on
procurement
and
any
anything
else
having
to
do
with
the
grant
process
and
not
just
the
grant
process.
They
also
do
with
deal
with
conservation.
They
deal
with
disaster
recovery.
They
deal
with
just
about
everything.
A
Do
these
resources
work
with
applicants
as
they
go
through
part
of
the
process?
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
you.
You
noticed
a
real
downturn.
Is
you
got
more
acclimated
to
going
through
the
procurement
process?
More
formally,
do
they
work
with
the
applicants
to
help
clean
up
some
of
their
application
problems
as
they
go.
E
We
try
to
again
with
only
four
applicants
and
receiving
so
many
applications.
It's
difficult.
One
thing
that
happened
is
after
they
had
that
serious
downturn
in
that
one
we
did
meet
with
representatives
from
the
clerks
and
the
clerks
expressed
that
they
now
better
understood
what
they
had
to
do
to
be
able
to
meet
the
procurement
guidelines,
and
that
was
shown
in
the
next
cycle
when
we
had
25
applications
and
23
were
funded.
A
Is
this
a
kind
of
what
common
problems
do
you
see
with
compliance
with
these
procurement
guidelines.
E
E
You
can't
make
somebody
bid
on
a
project
as
long
as
you
advertise
for
bid
and
you
get
one
good
bid
and
then
we'll
solicit
from
other
qualified
bidders,
even
if
they
refuse
to
bid,
then
we
will
accept
that
as
a
bidding
bidding
arrangement,
it's
when
we
don't
show,
I
see
evidence
that
they
advertise
for
bid
and
only
one
bid
is
turned
in
which
happens.
On
occasion.
We
don't
feel
like
we
can
fund
that
grant
yeah.
A
E
I
can't
remember
the
specific
case
here,
but
the
sort
of
thing
we
get
sometimes
is
somebody
will
use
a
form
that
is
several
cycles
old
and
may
have
different
questions
on
it,
maybe
a
different
form
and
because
it
is
a
competitive
grant,
we
feel
like
we
have
to
have
a
level
playing
field
and
have
everybody
submitting
on
the
same
same
forms
and
that
sort
of
thing
again
they
may
not
turn
in
they
may
indicate
that
they
did
a
bid
that
they
did
bid,
but
not
turn
in
a
copy
of
the
bid,
which
was
one
thing
required
in
the
guidelines.
E
Usually
not
because
it
is
cyclical,
we
ask
them
to
reapply
the
next
time
if
it
were
something
where
a
record
was
actually
in
danger,
then
we
would
certainly
approach
them
and
ask
them
to.
But
if
it's
you
know,
if,
if
it's
a
project
that
can
wait
till
the
next
next
cycle,
normally
we
just
ask
them
to
wait
till
the
next
cycle
and
apply.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
you
chairman,
just
I
apologize
for
being
slightly
late.
I
had
another
committee
meeting,
but
did
you
cover
what
the
balance
is
in
this
fund?
This
grant
fund
right
now.
E
E
Have
just
rewarded,
405
and
we'll
got
another
one,
and
the
reason
it's
so
high
is
because
that
one
cycle,
the
2021
cycle
two
was
so
low.
So
we
will
have
a
you
know
we
normally,
we
would
only
have
about
a
half
million
dollars
toward
and
each
cycle,
this
next
cycle
we
will
have
and
that
the
this
number
I
just
quoted
you
does
not
include
all
the
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
being
subtracted
from
it
or
that
we
just
awarded
part
of
it
is
a
hundred
and
some
thousand
of
it
is
with
rest.
E
So
it
isn't.
This
is
what
has
not
yet
been
drawn
down,
so
we'll
have
in
the
next
cycle:
excess
funds-
I
won't
say
access,
but
we'll
have
more
funds
than
usual
that
we
will
be
able
to
award
and
I
would
love
to
receive,
grant
applications
from
not
only
the
clerks
but
from
any
entity,
that's
applicable,
but
specifically
the
clerks
that
would
aid
in
this
modernization
effort.
We
would
be
very,
very
happy
I'd,
love
to
be
able
to
get
an
allotment
increase
and
award
all
this,
and
that's
what
the
money's
there
for
that's.
B
E
That
would
be
approximately.
A
Anyone
else
have
any
questions.
I've
got
a
couple
of
little
follow-ups
and
then
we'll
move
on.
Who
are
the
people
that
evaluate
these
applications?
Do
you
have
a
committee
that
evaluates
these.
E
We
do
and
we
have
the
grant
we,
the
preview
committee,
which
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
has
it
we
just
reformed
it.
The
state
libraries
archives
records
commission
just
voted
to
change
the
makeup
to
put
three
clerks
on
it.
That's
the
one
that
has
the
three
clerks
representative
law
enforcement
representative
from
the
cities
representative
from
kea
representative
from
the
historical
society
or
the
archives.
Seven
representatives
evaluate
these.
Then
it
goes
to
the
state
library's
archives
records,
commission,
which
is
appointed
by
the
governor
and
normally
they
they
ask
questions.
E
But,
generally
speaking,
the
the
committee
does
a
good
job
and
the
recommendation
of
the
committee
is
accepted
and
passed
on
to
me
who
appoints
the
committee
members.
E
The
three
clerks
are
nominated
by
the
clerks
right
by
the
clerks
association,
the
kea
nominates
third
person,
but
are.
A
E
A
A
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
for
the
vendors
we're
going
to
try
to
allow
about
15
minutes
a
piece.
Some
will
go
a
little
longer.
Some
will
go
a
little
shorter,
that's
kind
of
the
way
these
things
work,
but
we'll
start
off
with
mark
ladd
with
ice.
G
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
good
to
be
back
in
kentucky
and
with
you
all
this
morning,
again,
I'm
mark
loud,
I'm
vice
president
of
regulatory
and
industry
affairs
for
ice
mortgage
technology,
I'm
a
retired
register
of
deeds
from
racine
wisconsin,
so
have
a
little
bit
of
understanding
about
this
stuff.
I
am
a
past
president
of
the
property
records
industry
association.
G
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
the
background
on
on
the
company
again
just
that
I'm
a
former
recorder
and
have
the
opportunity
to
work
in
a
lot
of
different
recorder
offices
across
the
across
the
country
when
it
comes
to
costs
associated
with
electronic
recording,
which
is
what
our
company
does.
Electronic
recording
is
based
on
a
delivery
service
model,
so
the
shipper
pays
the
freight
so
in
that
regard,
there's
no
cost
to
the
county
for
implementing
electronic
recording.
G
However,
there
is
development,
work
and
continuing
support
that
the
land
record
vendors
are
going
to
have
to
do
to
support
electronic
recording.
Those
vendors
are
well
represented
here
today
and
I'll.
Let
them
speak
to
their
different
business
models.
G
We
see
a
lot
of
the
different
different
approaches
to
funding
electronic
recording
as
we
go
all
across
the
country,
but
just
so
that
you're
aware
that
from
the
recording
the
for
the
e-recording
vendor's
perspective,
there
is
no
cost
to
the
county,
but
there
is
a
cost
from
the
land
record
vendor,
and
there
is
significant
work
for
them
to
do
to
be
able
to
support
this.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are,
you
know,
they're
going
to
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
their
approaches
to
it.
G
What
I
thought
I'd
take
a
few
minutes,
though,
and
talk
about
this
morning,
is
that
funding
mechanism
for
modernization
based
on
a
model
that
I'm
familiar
with,
that
we
implemented
in
wisconsin.
While
I
was
in
office
there,
it's
a
program
very,
very
similar
to
what
the
kdla
just
described.
G
I
would
say
the
couple
of
differences
are
that
there
was
more
funding
rather
than
one
dollar
or
three
dollars
from
each
document.
It's
15
from
each
recorded
document
is
applied
to
that.
There's
a
portion
of
that
funding,
eight
dollars,
that
stays
is
retained
by
the
county
and
the
county
clerk
has
the
ability
to
has
discretion
over
the
use
of
that
money
it
may
have.
You
could
argue
as
to
whether
or
not
it
has
a
broader
scope.
It's
focused
on
land
records,
but
it
includes
things
like
gis
mapping
and
surveying
control.
G
You
know
requirements.
I
think
the
things
that
are
interesting
about
the
wisconsin
program
is
that
the
funds
are
designated
for
a
specific
purpose.
They
are
segregated
and
they're
non-lapsing,
so
that
the
clerk
has
the
ability
over
time
to
you,
know,
build
up
enough
of
a
fund.
Some
of
these
pros
projects
are
rather
expensive.
G
G
The
other
seven
dollars
of
the
wisconsin
program
goes
into
a
grant
fund
and,
to
be
honest,
the
way
that
it's
administered
there,
it's
kind
of
the
equalizer,
it's
the
large
counties
paying
for
the
small
counties
to
be
honest,
racine
county.
We
were
the
fifth
largest
county
in
the
state.
I
rarely
received
a
grant,
but
I
always
got
to
make
donations
to
the
grant
program,
but
you
knew
that
going
in.
That
was
the
purpose
and-
and
so
that
was
that
was
fine,
but
but
it
was
a.
G
It
was
a
good
program
to
help
the
larger
counties,
support
the
smaller
counties,
kind
of
make
everybody
equal
there,
but
the
large
counties
still
had
their
funds
and
significant
amount
of
funds
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
projects.
In
my
office
we
were
able
to.
We
were
the
first
county
to
e-record
in
wisconsin.
G
We
were
the
10th
in
the
nation
and
it
was
expensive
back
then,
because
we
were
making
it
up
and
but
but
we
were
able
to
fund
out
of
that,
we
were
able
to
fund
a
you
know
the
backfile
conversion.
My
successors
now
have
all
of
their
records
available
online.
I
and
you
know,
have
been
able
to
do
a
lot
of
other
modernization
tying
the
gis
records
and
the
land
records
together.
Those
are
available
online
people
can
do
some
pretty
amazing
searching
in
the
records
in
wisconsin,
largely
because
of
the
funding
of
this
program.
G
What
register
of
deeds
in
wisconsin
county
clerks
here
in
kentucky
office
a
little
more
funding,
and
I
really
think
the
key
thing
is
that
non-lapsing
feature
of
the
of
the
program
so
just
wanted
to
pass
that
along
and
if
there's
anything
that
I
can
answer
or
any
connections
that
we
can
help
make
with
the
folks
at
the
wisconsin
department
of
administration
who
administered
that,
like
I
say
it
sounded
a
lot
like
the
kdla.
In
terms
of
the
actual
administration,
so
I
think
you
folks
have
a
framework
there.
G
F
Mark,
could
you
just
tell
us
ural's
company
how
many
clerk's
offices
are
you
all
operating
and
interfacing
with
currently
in
kentucky.
G
Oh,
my
goodness,
I
should
have
looked
that
up.
I
think
we
are
in
the
20
mid
20s
to
the
low
30s
right
now
about
30.,
it's
about
30.
yeah.
Thank
you,
yeah,
it's
it
and
it's
been
moving
along.
Actually,
you
know
quite
nicely
by
comparison
to
what
we've
seen
in
other
states
that
have
recently
adopted
legislation.
G
I
would
say
the
clerks
here
are
doing
a
great
job
of
you
know
coming
on
board
and
not
without
a
small
challenge
here
doing
these
implementations
during
a
pandemic
has
has
had
its
challenge,
and
some
of
them
have
worked
really
really
hard
to
to
modernize
that
so
hats
off
to
them.
F
G
Sure
we
are
are
like
the
electronic
fedex.
If
you
will
so
are
there
one
side
of
our
software
is
facing
toward
the
settlement
agent
or
the
attorney
or
lender
who
may
be
producing
the
document.
G
We
then
pass
that
through
to
the
county's
land
record
vendor,
that's
where
the
interface
is
there
and
then
in
terms
of
the
payment
of
fees
we
front
that
we
pay
that
to
the
clerk
at
the
end
of
the
evening,
once
we
know
what
the
all
the
fees
are
for
the
day,
and
then
we
collect
that
from
our
customer
through
various.
You
know,
invoicing
processes,
and
what
have
you.
G
A
C
G
Sure-
and
that
was
one
of
those
things
that
we
saw
over
time
and
it
was
more
of
a
matter
of
not
having
to
replace
as
many
staff.
You
know
people
when
I
first
came
into
office.
We
had
nine
people
in
the
office
today.
There
are
four
people
in
that
office.
Now
that's
a
period
of
about
20
years
of
you
know,
as
retirements
happened
there
just
wasn't
necessarily
need
to
to
replace
as
quickly
so
we
we've
we've,
definitely
seen
the
ability,
the
productivity
of
the
individual
staff
person
go
up.
G
We've
also
seen
the
interaction
with
title,
searchers
and
other
members
of
the
public
who
are
searching
reduced
because
now
these
records
are
available
online
and
so
there's
just
some
efficiency
with
people
just
not
getting
interrupted
as
often
during
the
day.
So
well,.
C
G
C
You
know,
and
I
like
to
have
the
ability
to
do
that
sure,
and
so
you
know
my
concern
is
you
know
how
that
would
impact
when
you
reduce
your
staff
and
and
whether
or
not
the
hours
were
cut
for
the
deed
room
in
person
or
or
things
that
we
experienced
in
coba,
we
copied
when
deed
rooms,
weren't
even
open,
and
you
think
you're
going
to
get
a
bar
complaint
because
you
can't
get
a
title.
G
Well
in
in
you
know,
the
offices
are
still
open
and
still
available.
I
and
and
in
wisconsin
most
of
the
offices
are
statutory
requirement
of
the
number
of
hours
they
have
to
be
open,
and
so
that
hasn't
changed
the
records
do
become
available
online.
So
again,
there
is
additional
actual
access.
Accessibility
in
in
that
point-
and
I
would
say
some
of
the
other
savings
that
were
recognized
by
the
counties
were
the
some
of
the
more
intangible
things
reduced
mailing
cost.
G
I
didn't
have
to
mail
back
documents
because
they're
going
back
electronically
now,
so
some
of
those
kinds
of
things
didn't
have
to
print
envelopes.
So
you
know
administrative
kind
of
costs
like
that
were
other
areas
that
we
saw.
A
lot
of
efficiency
in
the
office
is
still
open.
People
can
still,
you
know,
come
on
in
and
have
a
cup
of
coffee
and
do
some
research
that
that's
still
part
of
it.
G
A
Appreciate
your
time
next,
we'll
have
joseph
deluca,
I
believe
he
is
appearing
remotely
and
all
the
vendors.
I
failed
to
mention
this.
The
first
time,
if
you
would,
when
you
start,
when
you
introduce
yourself,
will
you
identify
how
many
counties
you're
in
kentucky
you're,
currently
working
with.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
joe
deluca
with
csc.
Can
you
see
me
and
hear
me?
Okay,
you're,
fine,
okay,
thank
you
so
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
with
you.
Sorry,
I
can't
be
there
in
person.
Schedule
didn't
allow
for
it
this
time
we
we
just
opened
up
to
travel
about
six
weeks
ago
and
have
been
on
the
road
just
about
every
one
of
those
days
so,
but
thank
you
and
mark
made
this
really
easy.
I
just
wanna!
H
I
just
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
you
know
csc
we're
based
our
international
headquarters
based
in
wilmington,
delaware.
That's
where
I
am
today.
Our
company
roots
go
back
to
19
or
1899
when
we
started
incorporating
companies
here
in
delaware,
and
you
all
are
probably
pretty
familiar
with
with
corporations
that
incorporate
in
delaware.
We
had
our
our
roots
in
that
and
as
it
relates
to
to
e-recording
our
roots,
also
go
back
to
the
very
first
e-recorded
document
in
1999.
H
So
a
hundred
years
following
the
the
kickoff
of
the
of
the
company
e-recording
a
land
record
document
in
lancaster,
county
pa
and
from
that
time
just
continue
to
grow.
We
work
with
approximately
2000
jurisdictions,
recording
jurisdictions
in
47
states,
alaska,
soon
to
be
our
48th
state
and
they're
in
in
your
great
state,
currently
working
with
30
counties,
another
10
are
in
progress
and
certainly
many
more
considering.
H
I
think
you
all
have
done
a
fine
job.
Legislation
was
not
in
place
until
january
of
last
year
of
2020,
but
the
the
counties
had
been
anticipating
it
for
quite
some
time
and
and
really
got
off
to
a
good
start,
certainly
slowed
down
by
covet.
H
That's
unfortunate,
you
know
as
much
as
it
pushed
people
towards
the
recording
other
other
issues
in
the
county
kept
kept
a
number
of
counties
from
from
being
able
to
to
make
that
transition,
and
I'm
sure
you
all
understand
that,
and
so
I
was
just
going
to
say
to
you
that
you
know
mark
ladd
made
it
very
easy
for
me
and
and
my
participation
here
today,
although
we
at
some
level
could
be
considered
competitors,
we've
worked
together
and
in
conjunction
with
one
another
and
for
the
betterment
of
e-recording
across
the
country.
H
We've
worked
together
for
a
number
of
years.
He
is
fantastic.
Representative
of
our
industry
also.
Has
that
experience
coming
from
the
county
level
himself,
and
so
I'd
say
you
know
no
better
resource
than
mark
to
be
able
to
address
this
answer
your
questions.
Of
course,
we
would
be
in
support
of
of
counties
who
need
funding
so
that
they're
able
to
add
e-recording.
H
We
believe
that
it's
it's
a
it's
a
service
that
is
really
has
to
become
a
requirement
for
every
recording
jurisdiction.
We
saw
that
through
last
year,
if
you
can't
get
to
the
office
or
if
you
can't
even
mail
something
to
the
office,
because
that
there
was
a
time
during
cobit
when,
when
jurisdictions,
weren't
even
accepting
mail
didn't
want
to
touch
anything
that
electronic
recording
of
land
records
needs
to
be
in
place.
So
there
is
an
option
for
for
documents
to
to
be
recorded
in
the
land
record.
H
You
know
industry
to
carry
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
up
more
of
of
anybody
else's
valuable
time,
especially
your
committee
and
then
the
others
who
are
representing
some
of
the
vendors
right
there
in
your
state.
And
so,
unless
you
have
any
further
questions
for
me,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
you
to
move
on
to
the
next
representative.
F
H
Yeah
representative,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question
and
part
of
the
reason
why
I
said
that
we
we
are
competitors
on
some
level,
submitters
of
land
record
documents
which
are
your
your
banks
and
your
title:
companies,
your
attorneys.
They
choose
which
platform
they
want
to
use,
so
they
could
choose
csc.
They
could
choose
simple
file,
they
could
choose
epn.
H
That
is
where
we
kind
of
fight
it
out
at
that
at
that
level,
and
but
where
we
don't
want
to
fight
it
out
is
at
the
county
level.
We
believe
that
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
counties
to
maximize
e-recording
and
for
that
reason
that
they
should
be
working
with
all
of
us.
Your
state
started
off
with
that
understanding
at
the
beginning
of
last
year
and
even
prior
to
that,
and
so
our
companies
all
have
integrations
with
your
software
companies
there
in
in
kentucky.
F
H
I
believe
we
currently
do.
I
don't
there,
isn't
any
land
record
company
currently
working
in
in
in
your
state
that
we
don't
have
an
integration
with
all
right,
but
so
as
long
as
as
long
as
the
county
adopts,
you
know
their
land
their
e-recording
program,
then
we're
able
to
have
access
to
that
on.
On
the
back
end,.
B
Good
morning
I
am,
or
what's
left
of
the
morning,
I'm
roger
baird.
I
am
the
ceo
of
software
management
and
my
son,
stuart,
is
my
business
partner,
so
I've
been
working
with
county
government
in
the
county,
clerk's
office,
specifically
for
37
years
in
different
capacities,
and
thank
you
for
letting
us
make
a
short
presentation
this
morning.
B
I
think
all
of
us
are
on
the
same
page.
It's
like
the
industrial
revolution,
that's
going
on
right
now,
and
a
lot
of
things
were
exposed
in
the
last
few
months
about
how
things
are
accessed
and
so
I'll
just
turn
the
meeting
over
to
stuart,
stuart
baird,
my
son
and
he'll
he's
the
president
of
the
company.
I
I
Maybe
we'll
go
through
about
us,
some
of
our
software
solutions
and
products
e-recording
and
how
it
interacts
with
us
and
our
clients
in
the
state.
I
What
our
online
eclipse,
which
is
our
online
platform
for
people
to
search
records
in
the
clerk's
offices
and
then
we'll
take
any
questions
you
guys
might
have
we're
located
here
in
louisville
kentucky
well
in
louisville,
and
we've
been
doing
business
with
county
clerks
for
almost
or
for
over
35
years.
I
I
I
I
That's
not
the
only
thing
that
they
do
they're,
also
in
charge
of
you
know,
with
transportation,
registering
licensing
motor
vehicles
and
collecting
delinquent
property
tax.
The
election
process
there's
so
their
office
does
a
lot
of
different
things.
We
have
a
lot
of
different
products
that
we
feel
like
work
as
a
turnkey
application
for
their
office.
I
I
I
We
only
do
business
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
so
the
only
thing
that
we're
worried
about
is
our
recorders
and
county
clerks
here.
Each
county
that
we
do
business
with
has
provided
a
modern
designed
website
for
distributing
important
information
to
the
public.
It
also
ties
into
the
online
record
system.
I
We
work
with
the
state
of
kentucky's
commonwealth
office
of
technology
to
maintain
a
network
in
the
counties
we
have
over
124
domain
controllers,
sql
servers
and
online
file
servers
that
operate
throughout
the
state
and
we've
also
we've
implemented
a
multi-version
backup
solution
as
part
of
a
data
disaster
recovery
plan
to
protect
our
customers,
data
against
encryption
attack
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
could
potentially
limit
the
digital
availability
of
electronic
records.
I
So
we
off,
we
offer
on-site
online
web
meeting
training
our
customer
support
teams
readily
available
for
answering
questions
assisting
in
problems
that
that
they
may
come
across
as
far
as
e-recording,
some
of
what
that
was
just
touched
on
with
mark
and
joe,
we
do
have
e-recording
as
a
feature
of
our
land
records
product,
it's
free
to
the
counties.
The
counties
don't
have
to
pay
anything
for
the
recording
piece
they
don't
have
to
endure
any
cost.
That's
all
taken
care
of
through
the
submitter
of
the
the
document.
I
What
e-recording
allows
the
county
to
do
is
receive
and
file
instruments
electronically.
We
are
partnered
with
simplyfile
csc
and
epn
as
the
three
major
electronic
recording
vendors
that
submit
documents.
Like
joe
said,
it's
it's
up
to
them
to
get
the
people
to
use
their
service,
but
we
use
all
of
their
companies
to
take
documents
through
our
system.
I
It
provides
a
simple
way
to
record
online
submitted
documents.
It
reduces
the
amount
of
time
the
process
takes
mailing
or
bringing
paper
documents
to
the
courthouse
once
again
during
covid.
If,
if
you
weren't
accepting
mail,
electronic
submissions
were
a
great
way
to
receive
documents,
we
do
have
25
counties
actively
receiving
electronic
documents
of
the
80
that
we're
working
with,
and
we
have
about
10
that
we're
working
on.
I
Doing
the
implementation
with
at
this
time
since
january
2020,
when
e-recording
was
passed
in
the
state
of
kentucky
we've
processed
over
19
000
electronic
documents
through
the
the
various
vendors
into
our
program,
that
number
is
significantly
increased
in
2021
the
first
year
in
2020.
When
this
was
introduced,
we
were
we,
we
were
able
to
get
nine
counties
online
and
we
were,
I
think
it
was
around
6
000
documents
that
were
recorded
through
the
first
year
and
in
2021
with
just
about
seven
months.
I
We've
already
recorded
13
000
documents
this
year,
so
it's
doubled
in
the
year
and
we've
taken
on
another
16
clients
with
like,
as
I
said,
10
more
looking
to
come
on
board.
I
I
It
has
all
availability,
like
I
said,
of
what's
in
the
clerk's
office
instrument,
security,
delinquent
tax
data
and
they're,
able
to
print
and
download
documents
and
all
counties
that
we
deal
with
people
have
access
in
one
location,
it's
eclipse
central
and
that's
really
all
I
had
for
you
guys.
I
figured
you
might
have
some
questions
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
F
I
F
I
We
have,
we
don't
currently
have
any
any
any
other
pricing
than
the
current
structure.
That's
there,
there's
not
a
buy
one,
get
all
for
a
certain
price
type
of
structure.
I
F
One
more
follow-up
question:
if
I
could-
and
this
I'm
going
to
get
away
from
fees
now
with
you
all
operating
with
about
80
of
the
counties
in
the
commonwealth,
that
probably
makes
you
all
just
80
of
120
counties.
You
are
probably
the
largest
vendor
with
regard
to
the
records
that
that
clerks
are
holding.
Is
it
a?
Is
it
a
variety
that
you
all
have
online
and
of
across
the
board?
I
mean?
Is
it?
Do
you
have
most
all
of
their
deed
records,
plus
marriages
and
and
multiple
different
things.
I
F
A
J
I
And
we
we
keep
up
with
that,
obviously
with
the
counties
as
well,
because
just
like
what
the
kdla
said
earlier,
we
try
to
recommend
what
they
should
spend
their
money
on
and
when
they
should
spend
it.
Deeds
and
mortgages
are
important,
but,
like
terry
said
earlier,
with
the
kdla,
there
are
also
documents
that
could
be
damaged
or
documents
that
you
don't
want
people
to
touch.
That
would
be
more
beneficial
for
them
to
be
scanned.
I
It's
really
at
the
discretion
of
the
county,
but
we
could
provide
you
a
a
pretty
good
overview
of
of
how
far
back
most
most
counties
are
going
with
with
their
records.
I
Something
together,
it
wouldn't
be
as
hard
as
you
think,
because
they're
all
sort
of
located
in
one.
So
it's
it's
not
it
won't.
Thank
you.
It
wouldn't
be
that
bad.
F
I
Yeah
definitely,
you
know,
like
I
said
we're
obviously
here
on
behalf
of
the
county
clerks
and
trying
to
work
with
them
and
continue
to
find
ways
to
help
them
get
money
to
be
able
to
put
more
records
online.
That's
that's
the
goal.
C
First,
I
also
want
to
apologize
for
being
late
as
senator
mills.
I
had
a
committee
that
that
ran
over.
I
just
had
a
question:
do
you
have
any
sort
of
like
fraud
flagging
feature
on
your.
I
C
Thank
you
because
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
you
know
I
one
of
my
local
clerk's
offices.
They
provide
so
many
features
and
the
only
hesitancy
I
think
they've
had
is
with
the
e-filing
and
and
their
biggest
concern
is,
is
fraudulent
filings.
At
that
point
they
still
have
the
folks
come
into
the
office
to
file
the
documents,
but
they
do
provide
them
online.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that.
Thank
you.
I
C
And
I
appreciate
my
colleagues
question
there:
if
you
practice
law
in
eastern
kentucky,
you
know,
sometimes
you
know
courthouses
burn
or
flood
or
whatever
we've
had
all
kinds
of
problems,
but
I
guess
the
question
I
have
I'm
familiar
with.
Y'all
watched
your
work
for
a
long
time,
and
and
but
I'm
going
to
pick
your
brain
a
little
about
cyber
security
and
vulnerability,
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
this,
in
other
components,
every
aspect
of
what
we
do
from
agriculture
and
energy
to
whatever.
C
But
I
would
just
ask
what
should
we
as
a
committee
as
we
proceed
with
modernization,
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
vulnerability
or
cyber
security
or
what
steps
could
be
taken
to
avoid?
You
know
one,
the
more
we
rely
on
this,
the
more
susceptible
we
are,
and
certainly
as
a
practitioner.
It
concerns
me
as
a
property
owner.
It
concerns
me.
So
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
I
Yes,
it's
something
that
we
take
extremely
seriously:
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
problem.
That's
going
to
continue
to
grow
as
organizations
outside
of
our
country.
Try
to
target
records
and
images
that
they
can
try
to.
I
I
guess
extort
money
from
we
we've.
We
currently
have
got
a
15
point
data
data
disaster
recovery
plan,
so
we
we
try
really
really
to
continue
to
look
at
how
this
is
evolving
and
continue
to
make.
I
Changes
in
our
system
to
keep
you
know
things
at
that
level.
We
one
of
the
things
that
we
do,
that
is
the
best
part
of
it
is
just.
We
keep
a
backup
of
everything
that
we
do.
That's
not
connected
to
the
internet.
So
if
there
was
some
sort
of
a
breach
or
data
that
was
taken,
then
we
would
be
able
to
hopefully
rely
on
that
backup,
that's
not,
and-
and
we
keep
multiple
copies,
it's
not
a
like
a
oh.
We
have
all
our
eggs
in
one
basket.
C
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
think
I
can
speak
on
behalf
of
the
committee
of
any
of
the
vendors
or
any
of
the
clerks
or
anybody
has
any
thoughts
or
suggestions
or
concerns.
You
know
it's
timely
and
we
want
to
address
it
on
in
every
component
of
the
policy
making
that
we
do
here
and
to
assist
our
citizens
that
they're
kept
safe
from
that.
So
I
appreciate
your
thoughts.
Thank
you.
I
We
also
go
through
rigorous
testing
with
outside
third
parties
to
find
vulnerabilities
within
our
software
to
try
to
find
holes
to
fix
that
and
to
continue
to
try
to
evolve
with
technology
as
it
changes
it's
very
important
to
us
and
our
clients.
B
And
actually,
we've
we've
had
to
have
more
people
on
staff
to
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about,
because
today,
with
things
that
are
going
on
today,
our
goal
is,
if
there's
anything
that
attacks
into
our
system,
we
immediately
know
about
it
and
can
get
it
under
control
immediately
and
and
that's
our
goal.
We
we
do
have
a
lot
of
things
that
we've
developed
and
continue
to
develop,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
on
top
of
it.
A
B
I
Thank
you
you're
here
with
us
yeah.
Thank
you
all
very
much
anything
we
can
do
to
help.
A
J
J
J
We
started
developing
and
patenting
index
systems
for
land
records
management
throughout
the
united
states,
currently
we're
within
four
counties
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
but
we
have
250
plus
counties
throughout
22
states
that
we
provide
land
records
management
and
then
also
provide
historical
online
index
books
and
so
that's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
us.
We
totally
understand
the
jurisdiction
of
what
we're.
What
you
guys
are.
Let
me
get
this
screen
shared.
J
You
know,
you're,
here
we're
talking
about
e-recording
our
experience
with
a
lot
of
the
counties
we
have
throughout
the
united
states.
The
experience
they've
been.
Some
of
them
have
been
e-recording
for
over
two
years,
some
three
four
years
and
we're
seeing
a
trend.
J
You
know
anywhere
and
most
of
their
instruments
are
coming
in
80
to
90
of
them
are
coming
via
e-recording
and
then
we're
also
seeing
I
don't
think
it
was
mentioned
with
csc,
but
there's
a
new
trend
coming
about
for
document
routing
within
the
county
government
offices,
for
those
instruments
to
go
between
auditors
recorders
to
provide
a
digital
dashboard
for
the
the
auditors
for
the
county
clerk,
so
that
they
can
see
how
those
documents
are
flowing
within
the
county.
J
J
We
do
kind
of
the
whole
thing
from
document
management
to
on-site
physical
scanning.
You
know
physically
taking
those
books
scanning
them,
digitizing
them
and
then
creating
an
index
so
that
the
records
become
searchable
to
the
to
the
general
public
into
constituents
throughout
the
u.s.
J
J
We
have
a
solution
called
online
index
books,
which
basically
follows
the
prius
standard,
for
you
know,
providing
historical
records,
official
records
in
a
format,
that's
authentic,
and
that
doesn't
change
over
time
and
it
takes
into
all
the
characteristics
of
those
historical
documents,
including
the
marginal
notes
which
are
important,
and
we
actually
have
a
an
example.
Khan.
J
If
you
want
to
we
put
up
some
of
these
one
of
the
challenges
I
think
katie
kdla
has
had
as
well
is,
is,
is-
and
I
think
even
stuart
mentioned
it
with
smi-
is
that
the
hard
part
is
taking
an
index,
that's
handwritten,
and
then
having
someone
take
the
liberty
of
trying
to
interpret
the
the
names
the
page
numbers,
the
spelling,
so
that
it
maintains
itself
as
an
authentic
document.
J
Well,
with
our
product
called
oib
online
index
books,
we
are
able
to
take
a
historical
handwritten.
Typed
cursive
index
put
it
into
a
our
software
oib
and
also
link
those
images.
You
know
the
deed
records
the
mortgage
and
the
release
to
that
handwritten,
therefore
we're
preserving
at
all
times.
You
know
the
authenticity
of
that
document
as
it
was
originally
created.
J
So
that's
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
work
we
do
beyond
the
land
records
management
from
a
you
know,
some
of
the
challenges
and
things
you
guys
have
probably
already
considered
are
you
know?
Obviously
every
county
is
a
different
size.
They've
got
different
volumes
of
records
to
be
digitized,
you've
got
to
think
about
that
and
then
the
regulatory.
J
I
think
someone
mentioned
cyber
security,
we're
seeing
a
trend
we're
in
a
tier
3
data
center.
Co-Logix
is
the
data
center.
We
use,
they
have
11
data
centers
throughout
the
united
states
and
the
trend
that,
from
a
cyber
security
perspective,
is
there's
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
being
put
in
by
the
general
services,
administration
and
department
of
homeland
security,
they've
developed.
Basically,
a
cyber
security
framework
called
fedramp,
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
heard
of
that,
but
fedramp
has
been
work
in
the
works.
J
For
probably
eight
years
now
and
that's
the
gold
standard
for
any
contractor
that
wants
to
do
business
with
a
federal
agency
and
provide
software,
they
must
be
in
accordance
with
the
cyber
security
standards
of
fedramp,
which
again
the
host
agency
is
gsa
and
dhs.
So
if
you're
looking
around
for
what
is
the
gold
standard,
that
might
be
one
that
you
take
a
look
at
and
they
have
a
great
group
of
folks.
They
have
a
list
of
authorized
products
on
there
as
well.
J
So
we'll
address
that
and
then
there
was
some
talk
about
the
types
of
records.
So
our
system,
our
land
records
management,
including
our
online
index
book
solution
for
historical
records,
preserving
the
handwritten
the
typed
index
and
linking
the
images
we
obviously
support.
You
know
I
think
stuart
mentioned.
You
know
deeds
mortgages
releases.
J
We
do
you
know
our.
We
can
process.
You
know
plots
and
wills
power
of
attorneys
all
the
associated
records
that
are
necessary,
but
we
also
do
a
lot
of
court
work
within
counties
and
provide
online
access
to
historical.
J
You
know:
naturalization
records
to
probate,
even
sheriff's
offices,
and
we
do
all
the
redaction
all
that
automatically.
We
do
the
military
discharge,
the
dd214s,
so
we
we
do
all
of
that
and
we
do
it
again
from
physically
scanning
the
documents
uploading
them
into
our
cloud
and
then
creating
that
index
and
then
turning
the
keys
over
to
the
county
or
to
the
agency
so
that
they
can
determine
whether
or
not
they
want
public
access
or
just
staff.
J
Only
so
one
of
the
challenges
again,
I
think,
if
there's
a
key
takeaway
particularly
is
we've
got
a
lot
of
history.
You
know
in
these
vault
in
these
record
rooms,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
it.
That's
going
forward.
You
know
from
when
they
started
the
digital
computers
forward,
but
there's
a
lot
that
still
has
to
be
done
and
manually
going
back
and
interpreting
a
document
and
retyping.
That
index
is
risky.
There's
liability
associated
with
that.
J
D
I
would
say,
as
far
as
the
the
online
index
books
go,
we've
taken
it
a
step
further
than
just
scanning
documents
in
and
making
it
available
for
somebody
to
do
a
search,
we've
actually
taken
the
book
digitized,
it
put
it
in
the
system.
Exactly
as
that
book
is
today,
so
somebody
walks
in
the
office.
They
open
the
book
and
they
see
a
deed
index.
They
look
at
a
name,
they
can
search
that
name
and
then
they
can
go
and
find
their
book
and
page
exactly
as
they
were
in
the
office.
J
A
Thank
you.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
anything
chairman.
F
F
K
F
J
Certainly
we
can
yeah,
we
have
one,
that's
the
land
records,
the
others
are
oib
users,
so
they've
taken.
They
have
a
different
land
records
management
solution.
Perhaps
smi
bis
who's
going
to
talk
next,
but
we're
doing
their
historical
so
that
they
can
have
access
to
those.
But
we'd
certainly
be
happy
to
do
that.
J
I
guess
there
is
one
last
one
last
trend
we're
seeing
not
so
much
in
kentucky
because,
again,
you
know,
you've
got
the
major
players
here,
we're
just
a
small
fish
here,
but
we
are
seeing
a
trend
because
of
all
the
e-recording
vendors
that
are
out
there
and
wanting
to
kind
of
take
advantage
of
not
advantage
but
get
into
that
business.
J
We're
seeing
in
other
states
some
land
records
management
companies
like
us
trying
to
create,
I
like
to
call
it
a
bottleneck
where
they
get
a
collective
fee,
and
if
you
want
to
get
into
my
county's
records,
you
need
to
e-record
and
pay
me
a
fee,
so
they
take
a
fee
from
epn
css.
You
know
simple
file
and
then
they
turn
it
over
and
but
they
share
none
of
that
revenue
with
the
with
the
county,
so
they're
creating
that
bottleneck
as
as
the
go
through.
J
D
Good
afternoon
good
afternoon,
let
me
introduce
our
team.
My
name
is
jeremy
dalger.
I
am
the
solutions
consultant
for
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky
with
me.
Today.
I've
got
mr
brandon
parker,
our
director
of
sales
and
marketing,
and
also
going
to
be
our
presentation
lead
today,
as
well
as
mr
jeremy
cobb.
He
is
our
director
of
information
technology
in
infrastructure
he's
here
to
assist
with
any
of
the
technical
questions.
Any
security
related
questions
that
us
simple
folk
may
not
be
able
to
answer.
D
I've
been
been
blessed
to
be
here
in
the
commonwealth
over
the
past
four
years,
which
we've
seen
a
a
a
a
a
fortunate
to
have
grown
our
partnerships
from
about
15
counties
to
well
over
70
counties
offering
different
services
as
brandon
is
going
to
illustrate
today
that
there's
there's
a
lot
a
lot
more
than
just
land
record
management
that
we
do
for
for
multiple
different
states
as
we
prepared
today.
For
today,
we
did
kind
of
reach
out
to
to
get
a
game
plan
and
see
what
was
expected.
D
But
but
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
a
part
of
this,
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
do
have
some
printed
material
that
will
expand
a
little
bit
on
this
brief
presentation.
We
are
trying
trying
to
to
consolidate
about
six
hours
worth
of
presentation
about
15
minutes,
so
I
do
have
some
printed
materials
if
anybody's
interested
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
either
after
this
or
or
anytime,
we're
more
than
happy.
But
at
this
point
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mr
parker.
K
Right
well,
good
afternoon:
everybody
thanks
jeremy.
I
know
when
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
adjournment.
That
is
code
for
get
on
with
it,
so
we're
gonna
do
that.
So,
as
jeremy
mentioned,
we
are
bis.
We
were
founded
in
in
1977,
we're
still
located
in
that
same
facility
in
tri-cities
area
tennessee,
if
you're
familiar
with
nascar
we're
just
a
stone's
throw
away
from
from
bristol
motor
speedway.
K
Of
course,
over
the
years
our
business
has
evolved.
We're
part
of
the
i3
verticals
family
i3
verticals
is
a
public
sector
software
focus
company
based
out
of
nashville
tennessee
in
our
office
in
east
tennessee.
We
employ
currently
about
150
team
members,
of
course,
i3's
employment.
Reach
is
much
larger.
They
employ
about
a
thousand
folks
all
across
the
country.
K
That
service
includes
other
things
like
insurance
verification,
inventory
management,
dealer
drive
out
solutions,
online,
renewals
and
et
cetera
outside
of
tennessee,
that
those
motor
vehicle
we
have
some
subsidiary
services,
for
example,
just
across
the
border
in
indiana,
starting
in
november,
we'll
be
providing
the
state
there
with
their
tag.
Inventory
management
system
as
well.
K
Rms
we'll
talk
about
that
a
bit
later
in
more
detail,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
highlight
here.
We
have
about
110
counties
in
eight
states
right
now
that
we're
serving
that
utilize,
our
rms
solution
of
land,
vital
marriage,
tax,
title
lanes,
et
cetera
for
tax
solutions.
We
also
offer
those
throughout
the
southeast.
We
do
a
billion
collections,
a
cama
system,
bill,
printing
and
mailing
services
as
well
solutions,
a
wide
scope,
we're
doing
counter
online
ivr
kiosk
payments,
our
business
unit
volume
right
now.
K
K
So
again,
kind
of
a
national
map
coverage
of
where,
where
bis
serves,
we
currently
serve.
K
You
know
nine
states
about
a
thousand
offices
with
different
those
different
products
that
we
just
mentioned
before,
but
we're
here
today
to
talk
specifically
about
kentucky,
so
this
map
will
give
you
an
idea
of
our
coverage
in
the
state
of
kentucky
we're
currently
servicing
72
county
clerks
right
now,
with
payment
solutions,
nine
clerks
with
rms
solutions.
K
But
again
today,
we're
here
really
to
focus
on
the
rms
side.
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
the
registry
is
obviously
our
our
state-of-the-art
records
management
system.
It
encompasses
those
those
main
four
functions
for
the
clerk.
You
know,
cashier
scan
index
retrieve.
Does
that
for
land
records?
Does
that
for
delinquent
taxes?
Does
that
for
for
for
title,
liens,
vital
records,
etc.
K
K
We
are
extremely
happy
and
grateful
for
every
single
customer
we
have,
but
we
wanted
to
point
out
some
of
the
sizable
ones
here
in
kentucky,
we've
been
providing
the
system
for
jefferson,
county
and
kenton
county
for
a
number
of
years
and
we're
fortunate
enough
to
recently
be
awarded
the
contract,
provide
the
system
for
fayette
county
and
we'll
be
installing
that
later
this
year
with
that
said,
the
registry
is
certainly
not
only
meant
for
larger
counties.
We
serve
counties
right
over
the
line
in
tennessee
to
have
a
couple
thousand
people
in
them.
K
K
So
I
wanted
to
to
kind
of
take
a
moment
just
to
explain
some
of
the
registry's
functionalities
and
workflow
this.
This
particular
slide
is
encompassing,
like
jeremy
mentioned
a
several
hour
demo
into
one
slide,
so
bear
with
me,
but
the
registry.
Obviously
the
first
thing
that
they're
going
to
do
is
record
a
document
in
our
system,
the
the
recording
module
handles
book
and
page
assignments,
doc
number
assignments.
It's
also
going
to
generate
a
barcode.
It's
going
to
generate
the
transaction
in
the
database.
K
K
Next
document
move
into
scanning
scanning
can
either
happen
at
the
front
counter
and
can
be
handed
back
to
the
citizen
at
the
time
of
recordation
or
it
can
be
utilized
as
more
of
a
departmental
workflow
after
the
fact
that
barcode
that
I
mentioned
in
cashiering
during
scanning,
it's
going
to
grab
that
image
associate.
That
image
immediately
begin
counting
the
pages
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
pages
cashiered
match
the
pages
that
are
scanned
and
it'll
give
the
the
clerk
the
option
hey.
What
do
you
want
to
do
here?
If
there's
a
mismatch?
K
K
Of
course,
then
the
indexing
grantor
grantee
property
description,
cross
references,
etc.
Again,
we're
utilizing
some
of
this
ocr
that
we
captured
in
scanning
to
assist
here
in
the
indexing
process.
We
also
offer
integrations
with
pva
or
an
assessor's
office,
and
if
we
can
grab
that
file,
if
they
can
key
in
a
map
number
or
something
like
that
to
associate
the
document,
we'll
pull
the
legal
description
from
the
pva
office.
That
way,
there's
uniformity
between
what
the
assessor
says
versus
what
the
clerk
system
says
and,
of
course,
last
they're
searching,
obviously
numerous
search
features.
K
Any
any
piece
of
information
that's
put
into
the
system
is
searchable
rather
than
than
go
through
all
those.
Today,
I
would
encourage
you
all
check
out.
Kenton
county's
website
check
that
out
on
your
your
desktop
check
it
out
on
your
mobile
phone.
It's
it's
responsive
and
reactive.
There,
too,
they're
a
good
blend.
Some
of
their
services
are
free
to
the
public
and
some
of
their
services
are
behind
a
paywall.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
how
both
those
services
work
there.
Okay.
K
K
K
If
there
is
a
employee
that
does
have
access
to
manipulate
a
data
record,
there's
also
a
robust
audit
log
that
logs
who,
what
and
when
in
the
system
at
all
times,
we
have
a
record
of
every
single
change.
We
obviously
are
hashing
sensitive
data,
such
as
user
passwords
in
the
system.
Those
aren't
stored
as
plain
text
in
our
system,
and
we
also
utilize
image
versioning.
So
what
we're
referring
to
there
is
if
a
document
is
over
scanned,
we
simply
don't
save
over
top
of
the
image
that
was
currently
on
disk.
K
K
We
have
multiple
off-site
copies,
our
backups
occur
in
30-minute
intervals,
and
so
the
maximum
amount
of
data
loss
that
a
county
would
receive
in
the
event
of
a
disaster
would
be
30
minutes
that
replicates
to
our
facility
in
east
tennessee
and
then
to
our
co-location,
which
is
a
tier
3
facility
in
virginia.
We
also
encourage
our
clerks
to
do
stick
backups
every
single
night.
Again,
those
are
backups
that
take
place
offline.
K
So
if
something
were
to
happen
which,
if
something
were
to
happen
to
the
clerk
in
our
facility
in
the
tier
three
facility,
we'd
have
some
some
big
problems,
but
in
case
those
were
to
happen,
they
do
have
that
that
nightly
backup
they
can
fall
back
to
as
well
and
so
now
to
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
e-recording
in
our
history.
K
So
our
rms
package
was
designed
in
1991,
and
that
was
its
first
release
date
in
2005
we
recorded
our
first
electronic
document
in
wilson,
county
tennessee
and
now,
let's
fast
forward
a
little
bit
to
2021
out
of
those
110
counties
or
so
that
we
serve
in
those
eight
states.
78
of
those
are
e-recording
now,
and
we've
recorded
just
over
4.2
million
documents
electronically
in
the
system.
K
K
So
our
first
model
is
obviously
partner
integration.
This
is
very
similar
to
what
you've
already
heard
today.
The
the
individual
vendors
and
I've
got
three
listed
here,
but
we
have
obviously
there's
more
vendors
than
just
these
three,
but
our
portal
will
accept
submissions
from
from
from
any
vendor
that
we
can
integrate
with
or
is
willing
to
integrate
with
us
all.
We
need
to
do
as
a
county
clerk
to
say.
We
would
like
to
take
submissions
from
this
vendor
and
we'll
make
that
happen.
K
So
the
package
flow
again,
echoing
some
things,
you've
already
heard
today,
but
the
submission
vendor
solicits
their
services
to
the
attorney
to
the
bank,
to
the
title
company
that
entity
submits
through
that
submission
vendor
that
submission
vendor
sends
it
to
our
e-recording
portal.
Our
e-recording
portal
delivers
that
to
the
county
and
that
the
doc
the
package
is
meant
for
it's
recorded
or
rejected
and
turned
right
back
up
that
same
path
once
the
document
is
recorded.
All
those
same
security
standards
we
just
talked
about
are
the
same
for
any
recording
or
for
a
paper
document.
K
K
And
so
the
big
question:
what
does
it
cost?
So
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
bit
generic
here,
because
a
lot
of
things
that
I
think
some
of
the
other
vendors
at
eckerd
echoed
it
depends
on
what
the
county
wants
to
utilize.
But
generally,
I
think
it's
it's
safe
to
say
that
the
registry
application,
the
rms
solution
generally
between
five
and
six
figures
to
acquire
that
software
and
there's
generally
a
maintenance
fee
associated
with
that
for
the
e-recording
there's
absolutely
no
fee
to
the
county.
K
That's
100
free
to
implement
they
just
say
when
and
where
and
we'll
make
that
happen.
There
was
also
some
concerns
around
contracts,
so
our
contracts
are
generally
made
either
with
the
office
holder
or
they
can
be
made
with
the
executive
body
at
the
county.
That's
that's
the
county's
preference
we're
happy
to
accommodate
either
way
generally
for
the
registry,
we're
looking
at
a
purchase
and
a
maintenance
contract
with
e-recording.
K
All
that's
really
going
to
be
required
is
a
memorandum
of
understanding
allowing
us
to
accept
those
documents
through
our
portal
on
behalf
of
the
county,
and
then
we
have
fixed
a
jointer
agreement
that
joins
simple
file,
ice,
csc,
epn,
etc.
To
that
mou
to
allow
us
to
accept
from
them
also,
but
that
is
all
we
prepared
today.
We're
certainly
open
for
questions.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
F
F
B
A
No
problem
anyone
else
senator
mills.
B
Just
one
quick
question:
do
you
have
any
concern
that
you
might
be
making
senator
howell's
job
a
lot
easier.
A
You
guys,
before
I'm
going
to
throw
a
statement
from
mr
parker
in
a
little
curve
ball
before
we
wrap
up
here.
If
chris
cocker
would
come
up
and
whoever
else
wants
to
just.
We
would
like
to
just
have
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
the
avis
headaches
that
you
guys
had
in
the
last
week
or
so,
making
sensitive
to
everyone's
time,
but
that
was
a
nice
little
curveball
that
our
clerks
were
throwing
and
all
of
our
vendors
and
car
dealers
and
we'd.
Just
like
a
little
update
on.
L
L
One
of
the
best
compliments
I've
ever
received
as
a
clerk
was
from
president
of
our
local
bank,
and
he
said
chris.
He
caught
me
on
the
street.
L
I
think,
of
what
the
takeaway
for
us
today
is
that
even
with
kdla
here
today,
they
highlighted
highlighted
the
issue
that
we're
having
with
grants
they
did.
They
did,
I
think,
adequately,
point
out
the
entities
that
are
taking
from
the
fund
and
was
obviously
we
are
the
only
ones
putting
into
it.
So
I
think,
with
the
funding
issue
being
highlighted
today,
it's
a
great
takeaway
for
all
of
us,
so
I
if
we
can
get
that
oil.
That
would
be
great.
So
back
to
your
your
question,
that's
another
reason
that
we
need
the
modernization.
L
Avis
went
down
two
weeks
ago
and
it
was
an
intermittent
problem
which
one
of
the
hardest
problems
to
fix
is
one
that
won't
stay
broke.
Luckily,
we
have
cavis
in
the
process.
Cavis
is
the
replacement
for
the
antiquated
system
that
we're
currently
using
is
avis.
Cavis
has
been,
it
was
started
in
2010,
discontinued
re-booted
in
2014
and
15.
L
cavus.
To
this
day
we're
roughly
around
15
million
dollars
invested
in
this
system.
We
cannot
get
that
system
up
to
speed,
quick
enough.
Avis
went
down
throughout
the
state,
many
transfers
dropped
and
it
was
a.
It
was
a
product.
The
failure
was
a
product
of
cavis,
one
of
the
modules
that
they
rolled
out
tinkered
with
abus
and
it's
a
very
fragile
system.
So
because
of
that
roll
out,
it
made
some
major
disruptions
throughout
the
state.
Since
then
they
have
repaired.
L
A
Before
I
turned
over,
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
sure
I
know
that.
There's
no
way
to
accurately
answer
this
question,
but
what
are
what
are
y'all
being
told
about
whether
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
problem
that
you're
going
to
have
crop
up
from
time
to
time
as
we
migrate
avas
to
cavis?
L
They
haven't
really
given
us
any
indication,
but
I
would
say
just
by
anything
new
you're
going
to
have
hiccups
and-
and
the
assumption
is,
there's
it's
a
rocky
road
ahead.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
some
disruptions-
hopefully
they're
temporary,
hopefully
they're
smaller
in
scale
as
opposed
to
last
last
week.
L
A
L
A
lot
several
offices
closed
temporarily,
but
a
lot
of
us
stayed
open.
A
lot
of
us
tried
to
manage
through
it,
but
all
the
work
was
processed.
There
was
nothing
to
my
knowledge
that
was
lost,
so
that
was
a
great
great
result
from
the
problems
that
we
had.
It
was
business
did
continue,
although
it
be
a
little
delayed.
A
For
your
time,
that
is
the
last
item
on
our
agenda,
so
normally
we
would
discuss
the
next
meeting
date
right
now.
We
are
looking
at
scheduling
that
around
some
issues,
the
legislative
committee
schedule
is
making
adjustments
because
of
the
kentucky
state
fair.
So
we're
still
working
through
some
conflict
issues
on
scheduling
and
we'll,
hopefully
have
that
done
as
soon
as
possible
and
and
share
that
information
along
with
the
agenda
for
the
august
meeting.