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A
A
Okay,
all
right
looks
like
we're
all
home
folks
here
today.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
our
minutes
from
the
july
18th
meeting.
Is
there
a
motion.
A
Motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
minutes
are
approved.
Thank
you.
One
thing
we
like
to
do
in
the
task
force
is
just
kind
of
remind
ourselves
and
read
the
purpose
of
what
we're
here
for
so
allow
me
to
read
the
task
force,
the
task
task,
force,
purpose
and
mission.
The
task
force
was
developed
to
take
a
wide
but
deep
look
into
the
functions
of
the
executive
branch
of
the
commonwealth.
A
A
Additionally,
these
meetings
will
give
the
cabinets
the
opportunity
to
propose
legislation
for
future
reorganization
plans
and
any
other
proposals
aimed
at
increasing
efficiency
that
requires
legislative
action.
Overall.
This
task
force
should
produce
information
helpful
to
the
general
assembly
in
increasing
government
efficiencies
in
the
2023
session
and
sessions
to
come,
so
that
is
our.
A
That
is
our
purpose
and
for
the
task
force.
Today
we
have
two
items
on
our
agenda
and
the
first
is
kind
of
a
follow-up
from
dlg
and
if
you
remember
recall,
we
sent
some
questions
and
they
took
some
questions
with
them
and
they
are
going
to
go
over
those
questions
today
and
then
see
if
we
have
any
follow-up
questions
or
questions
after
that,
I'm
hoping
to
spend
20
or
25
minutes
with
them.
If
that
much
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
items
on
our
agenda.
C
We
also
have
laura
redman
a
budget
manager
with
us
in
the
crowd.
Regrettably,
commissioner
keane
is
not
able
to
join
us
today
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
dlg
provided
those
detailed
responses
to
the
supplemental
questions
asked
by
the
committee
and
is
prepared
to
answer
any
additional
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
Very
good
does
any
of
the
members
have
any
follow-up
questions
that
are
burning.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
would
like
to
know,
and
I
think
it's
on
your
page,
46
of
your
handout.
E
Yes,
sir
inactive
cities
are
those
that
have
not
provided
us,
the
requirements
that
you
had
on
the
proceeding
pages,
such
as
the
city,
official
update,
youfor's
or
the
audits
offhand.
I
cannot
tell
you
the
eight,
but
I'll,
be
glad
to
get
that.
Please.
D
Please,
and
if
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
just
I
presume,
there's
no
financial
statement
non-compliant
for
2022,
because
it's
not
due
yet
or
it's
not
able
to
be-
maybe
not
hit
that
time
period
correct.
So
could
you
talk
about
financially
non-compliant
cities,
the
13
you
had
before
what
were
the
repercussions
and
outcome
of
that.
E
Well,
any
any
anytime,
a
city
is
non-compliant,
the
repercussion
would
be
cutting
off
any
access
to
state
funding.
Most
most
most
of
all
would
be
the
municipal
road
aid
municipal.
A
Any
other
questions
from
the
committee
members
just
a
couple
for
me
just
wanted
to
I've,
been
asking
the
question
about
remote
working
so
remind
me
again,
dlg
as
far
as
remote
working
what
your
policies
are
right
now
and
how
many
folks
are
back
full
time.
C
As
we
provided
in
the
answers
to
the
supplemental
questions,
the
statutes
drive,
the
process
and
personnel
cabinet
puts
down
orders
for
that
as
far
as
the
numbers
of
people
that
are
working
remotely
I'll
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you.
Okay,
very
good.
A
And
then
finally
have
when
was
the
last
time
that
dlg,
I
guess
universally
looked
at
organization
as
far
as
possibly
combining
operations
has
that
been
done
in
the
brochure
administration,
since
you
guys
have
been
in
office
or
is
that
planned
to
be
done
in
the
future?.
C
D
On
page
37
of
office
of
state
grants
in
under
flood
control,
lmp
lmpp
were
any
of
the
grants,
deny
a
were
any
of
them
denied
or
failed
to
be
granted
for
whatever
reason.
B
D
Okay,
and
for
our
all
our
sake,
giving
the
impending
special
session
were
any
of
those
flood
control.
Lmpp
projects
in
the
areas
that
were
recently
hit
by
the
tragic
flooding.
A
I'm
sorry
aaron
jones
french
manager,
the
office
of
state
trans.
Can
you
come
up
to
the
microphone
real,
quick?
Sorry
just
so
we
can.
It
may
be
a
short
answer,
but
we
still
want
to
get
it.
We'll
give
you
credit
for
your
answer.
B
Thank
you,
so
the
funds
that
we
have
available
now
have
not
been
used
for
that.
But
are
you?
Are
you
asking
if
the
funding
from
the
previous
year
have
been
used
for
the
counties
in
that
area?
Right.
D
D
Fema
bile
now
bucks
branch-
I'm
I
don't
recall
that
I
remember
right
and
left
beaver
creek
being
hard
hit
in
floyd
county,
but
buck
bucks
branch-
I'm
not
familiar
with.
B
No,
sir,
okay,
basically
what
that
is
is
if
a
certain
area
has
been
flooded
numerous
times.
Fema
will
come
into
that
area
and
offer
to
buy
out
the
property
and
then
there's
usually
a
local
match
required
by
fema,
and
that
is
the
funds
that
dlg
provides
and.
D
Generally,
these
communities
don't
have
the
money,
so
they
have
to
come
to
the
state
for
that
money.
That
is
correct
and
is
there
as
of
as
it
stands
right
now
before
a
special
session.
Is
there
a
pool
of
money
that
communities
can
draw
on
for
these
projects,
or
is
that
dependent
on
the
outcome
of
the
special
session?
D
D
A
Is
is
that
fun
that
you
re,
that
you
were
talking
about
the
six
million
dollars?
Is
that
an
annual
or
every
two
years
supply
of
money
for
disaster
relief,
flood
relief
or
something
that's
labeled,
flood
relief?
Is
that
something
we
fund
every
two
years
or
that
that's
funded
through
federal.
B
It
has
not
been
in
the
budget,
but
the
general
assembly
funded
it
last
fiscal
year
and
in
each
fiscal
year
of
the
current
biennium,
it
hasn't
been
funded
since
2014.
Before
that.
A
B
E
E
No
sir
local
government
advisor
takes
over
certain
territory
for
counties,
fiscal
courts,
and
then
fee
offices
as
well
and
then
is
more,
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
grant
side
is
more
just
through
their
budget
process,
as
well
as
any
administrative
help
that
they
would
need
throughout
the
year.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
you
mentioned
the
I
think
matt
you
mentioned
the
fema
involvement
in
these
buyouts,
or
maybe
it
was
billy.
I
I
can't
recall
who
responded
with
the
masks
on,
but
could
you
talk
about?
D
Is
the
areas
that
were
affected
eligible
under
fema's
current
rules
or
will
fema
have
to
make
take
special
action
to
identify
properties
and
is
there?
Are
there
pitfalls
because
representative
tipton
and
I
just
worked
on
a
home
last
week,
cleaning
up
after
the
flood
and-
and
there
was
some
question
as
to
whether
that
woman
was
going
to
qualify
for
fema
aide
because
of
some
complexity
in
the
deed
that
you
know
in
terms
of
how
it
passed
down
to
her.
D
C
I
will
say
that
dlg
is
not
responding
to
the
emergency
as
much
as
we
later
on
will
provide
response,
mitigate
for
mitigation
efforts
and
that's
what
fema
is
doing
here
with
that
with
the
buyout
that
he
mentioned
is
it's
more
of
a
mitigation
effort
rather
than
the
emergency
response
that
you're
hearing
about
right
now.
A
My
final
question
just
has
to
do
with
any
kind
of
are
y'all
eyeing
any
future
legislation-
reorganization
that
we'll
need
to
look
at
in
2023
that
we
need
to
be
looking
for
dlg,
I
guess
globally
and
then
maybe
in
each
department.
C
A
I
I
guess
my
only
ask
would
just
be
if
you,
if
you
could
land
on
something
prior
to
just
you
know.
One
of
the
reasons
for
this
task
force
is
so
we
don't
end
up
with
180
page
bill
dropped
on
us
for
reorgs,
and
we,
you
know
it's
hard
to
digest
that
if
you
don't
know
the
intricacies
of
how
each
area
works.
So
I
would
appreciate
that
for
the
future,
but
if
are
there
any
other
questions
for
dlg?
A
I
appreciate
y'all
coming
back
today
to
kind
of
do
a
little
cleanup
and
sweep
up,
and
we
may
we
may,
at
the
end
of
end
of
this
task
force,
maybe
have
a
couple
more
questions,
but
I
don't
see
us
needing
to
have
you
guys
back
next
month,
so
I
appreciate
it
so
much.
Thank
you
chairman.
We're
always
available.
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right!
Next
on
our
agenda
is
the
education
labor
cabinet.
A
And
if
you
could
introduce
yourselves
and
then
the
floor
would
be
yours
and
I'll
just
make
while
you're
sitting
down
in
your
chairs
just
to
comment,
you
know
this
is
this
is
all
general
information,
and
this
is
your
first
time
coming
before
us
and
we
may
end
up
having
a
second
visit,
just
kind
of
some
cleanup
questions
like
we
just
did
with
dlg,
but
they
they
did
send
us
several
pages
of
follow-up
questions
that
were
all
very
good
information
that
we
digested,
and
so
anyway,
I
appreciate
you
all
being
here
and
you
have
a
huge
cabinet
and
we're
excited
and
interested
to
learn
more
about
it.
G
And
we've
all
talked
about
the
workforce,
participation
numbers,
the
unemployment
numbers
across
the
state
and
the
nation
for
that
matter,
that
we
want
to
do
our
best
to
improve
the
workforce,
participation
in
kentucky,
and
we
have
numerous
opportunities,
as
I
mentioned
so
now,
it's
it's
a
matter
of
matching
workers
with
employers
and
in
order
to
do
that,
the
merger
of
the
two
cabinets,
which
I
must
acknowledge,
senator
nemes's
guidance
and
leadership
on
getting
that
through
the
general
assembly,
with
senate
bill
180
and
having
been
at
the
cabinets
before
he
knew.
G
What
both
cabinets
did-
and
I
think
it
it
allows
our
cabinet
now
to
address
workforce
from
both
early
childhood
all
the
way
through
job
placement,
so
with
early
childhood
to
primary
and
secondary
education
leading
into
you
know,
if,
if
a
student
wants
to
go
on
to
a
four-year
institution
or
to
kctcs,
certainly
we
encourage
that,
but
I
think
we're
seeing
in
today's
marketplace
for
labor
that
many
students
are
electing
not
to
go
into
post-secondary.
G
Education
are
looking
at
skilled
trades
to
address
the
job
needs
that
are
in
the
market
right
now,
so
working
on
on
skills,
training
on
apprenticeship,
that's
going
to
be
a
very
important
aspect
of
addressing
these.
These
job
needs
across
the
state
and
I
also
think
we
have
areas
of
great
opportunity
in
the
state
where,
but
we
don't
have
population,
we
don't
have
a
supply
of
workers
in
those
areas,
whereas
in
other
parts
of
the
state
we
have
population,
but
not
a
lot
of
opportunity.
G
So
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge,
too,
of
how
we're
going
to
marry
the
the
population,
the
supply
of
of
workforce
to
the
job
needs
where
they're
needed.
G
So
that's
going
to
be
a
key
element
of
what
we
do:
we're
also
looking
to
address
the
the
barriers
to
employment
and
working
with
several
other
state
agencies
and
local
agencies
as
well.
You
know
child
care
is
a
huge
need
and
and
prevents
people
from
getting
into
the
workforce,
transportation
issues,
reentry
and
recovery
from
the
criminal
justice
system
or
from
drug
issues.
How
can
we
work
with
employers
and
and
those
people
affected
by
this,
to
get
them
into
the
workforce?
G
G
It
became
effective
on
july
1st
of
2022,
so
we're
a
little
less
than
two
months
into
the
merge
cabinet
and
our
our
role
is
to
work,
and
I
don't
know
about
you
all,
but
I
hate
reading
powerpoints
you
you.
A
G
Obviously,
we
have
to
have
data
that
drives
how
we
make
decisions
and
how
we
address
certain
needs
so
through
our
kentucky
center
for
statistics
and
and
other
parts
of
the
cabinet
producing
data
and
of
how
we're
going
to
address
the
needs
across
the
state
and
what
might
be
lying
behind
the
data
that
creates
the
situations
that
we're
we're
dealing
with.
G
Obviously,
as
I
mentioned,
we
want
to
help
young
people
fulfill
their
their
career
needs,
whether
they
want
to
go
to
a
post-secondary
education
institution
or
if
they
want
to
go
to
work
as
soon
as
they
leave
high
school.
It's
part
of
our
role
to
address
that
need
and
to
help
them
along
that
career
path.
G
Obviously,
one
of
our
divisions
is
wage
and
hour
make
sure
we
have
proper
protections
in
for
for
work
that
people
are
being
paid
for
the
work
that
they
do
and
also
through
our
workplace
standards
through
occupational
safety
and
health.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
workplace
conditions
are
safe
and
allow
for
productivity
and
to
avoid
any
lost
hour,
injuries
that
might
might
occur
prevent
them
before
they
happen,
and
then
you
know,
as
I
look
at
the
continuum
of
of
the
workforce,
I
mentioned
early
childhood
and
primary
and
secondary
education.
G
Once
we
get
people
employed,
we
want
to
make
sure
they're
protected
with
safety
net
programs
and
those
are
unemployment,
insurance
and
workplace
safety,
as
I
mentioned,
and
workers
compensation
benefits.
So
next
slide.
G
Our
vision,
I'll
read
that
the
education
labor
cabinet
fosters
opportunities
for
lifelong
learning,
training
and
career
services,
while
protecting
the
well-being
of
kentucky's
workforce
things.
I've
already
addressed
in
our
organizational
chart.
You
can
see
the
new
organization
that
was
created
through
the
the
merging
of
the
cabinets
and
those
are
fairly
self-explanatory.
G
We're
basically
made
up
of
10
major
organizational
units
that
you
can
see
there
that
employs
about
1539
people
and
on
the
right
side
of
each
slide.
You'll
see
our
budgetary
breakdown
for
the
source
of
funds
of
how
our
cabinet
is
funded,
and
you
can
see
that
our
cabinet
is
funded
to
the
tune
of
just
over
853
million
dollars,
including
a
mixture
of
federal
funds,
general
fund
appropriation,
restricted
fund
appropriation,
the
workers,
compensation
funding,
commission
and
the
tobacco
settlement
funds
in
the
office
of
the
secretary
we
have.
G
Obviously,
we
have
oversight
of
the
entire
cabinet,
and
many
of
our
offices
are
shared
services,
as
you
will
see
on
the
screen,
legal
legislative
policy
and
audit
technology,
communications
and
so
on.
We
also
have
some
organizations
or
agencies
that
are
attached
to
our
cabinet.
Administratively,
we
don't
necessarily
have
direct
oversight
over
their
operations,
but
we
support
them
from
an
administrative
standpoint
and
we
do
collaborate
with
them
on
any
workforce
needs
and
how
it
fits
into
our
overall
strategy.
G
Office
of
educational
programs,
the
key
example
here
is,
I'm
sure,
representative
miller,
knows
of
this
program.
I'm
sure
all
of
you
do,
but
the
the
first
pilot
program,
if
you
will
was
the
governor's
brainchild
of
everybody,
counts
and
that's
working
with
the
local,
high
schools
and
employers
in
the
community
to
provide
employment
opportunities
for
graduating
seniors,
and
essentially
it
is
our
goal
that
every
graduating
senior
has
a
job
waiting
for
them.
G
One
of
our
largest
departments
is
obviously
the
department
of
workforce
development,
that's
kind
of
where
my
my
head
is
now
and
where
everybody's
head
is
and
how?
How
are
we
going
to
meet
these
job
needs
that
we
have
across
the
state?
How
are
we
going
to
get
people
trained
for
this?
These
new
advanced
manufacturing
and
the
new
technologies
that
are
coming
down
the
road
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
opening
comments,
the
the
different
employee
pools
that
we
have.
G
G
G
The
workforce
innovation
board
is
a
collaborative
of
the
setting.
The
policy
for
workforce
needs
across
the
state,
and
we
also
work
with,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
local
workforce
investment
boards
to
address
the
needs.
Because
again
we
have
several
regions
across
the
state
and
their
needs
may
differ
from
from
one
region
to
the
next.
So
we
need
that
local
presence
in
order
to
better
to
better
ascertain
what
is
needed
and
how
we
can
best
address
that.
G
Then
the
kentucky
apprenticeship
council,
that
is,
an
organization
to
address
just
what
it
says
to
address
apprenticeship,
needs
office
of
unemployment.
Insurance
has
certainly
been
in
the
news
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
the
perfect
storm.
I
would
couch
that
that
we
had
to
address
with
not
only
the
the
technology
that
was
available
to
us,
but
the
the
enormous
demands
that
were
placed
on
the
unemployment
insurance
system,
both
at
the
federal
level
and
certainly
at
the
state
level.
G
I
won't
go
through
all
the
branches
of
the
of
unemployment
insurance,
but
you
will
note
that
we
have
251
employees
in
this
branch
and
that
is
down
from.
G
I
think
there
were
95
positions
that
were
both
in
career
development
and
in
unemployment
insurance.
They
were
cross-trained
to
do
both,
but
that
may
be
one
thing
we
we
want
to
look
at
going
forward
when
we
work
with
the
the
task
force
on
future
needs
that
that
might
be
coming
up
and
then
the
last
general
assembly
with
house
bill
4
the
new
unemployment
insurance
requirements,
particularly
with
the
work
search
requirements
and
the
resources
that
will
be
needed
to
address
that
new
requirement.
G
So
this
is
just
a
list
of,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
agencies
that
are
attached
to
our
cabinet
for
administrative
purposes.
Again,
we
don't
have
direct
oversight
of
their
functions,
but
we
are
there
to
support
and
collaborate
to
meet
our
overall
mission
of
getting
people
to
work,
getting
them
trained
for
work
and,
as
you
mentioned,
mr
chairman,
we
are
a
fairly
large
cabinet
now
and
that
concludes
our
presentation
and
we'll
be
happy
to
address
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
I
got
one
question
lead
off
and
then
we've
got
several
already
that
want
to
ask
questions.
Can
you
you're
talking
about
the
administratively
attached
organizations?
I
guess
kde
falls
under
that
is
that
is
that
correct?
That's.
G
A
Correct
is
that,
can
you
give
us
kind
of
the
history
on
how
that
occurred,
and
did
that
all
start
with
cara?
Is
that
correct.
G
G
But
again
we
I
meet
regularly
with
commissioner
glass
to
see
how
the
cabinet
can
support
kde
on
their
their
needs.
G
For
instance,
we've
had
several
calls
lately
about
the
the
schools
that
were
in
the
impacted
areas
of
of
eastern
kentucky
right
and,
and
we
will
do
anything
we
can
to
assist
them,
but
I
can
get
you
some
more
history
about
the
the
relationship
between
kde
and
the
cabinet.
What
was
formerly
the
education
workforce
development
cabinet
is
now
education,
labor.
A
G
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
a
quick
question
and
if
I
could
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
comment
about
a
meeting
we
had
last
week
as
well
job
placement,
you
talked
about
job
placement.
B
G
Do
a
website
we
have
a
system
in
place.
It's
called
a
essential
skill
system
that
our
kentucky
career
centers
use
to
ascertain
a
candidate's
qualifications
and
then
determine
if
they
need
additional
training
and
then
matching
them
with
job
opportunities
that
are
available
to
them
and
attached
to
that
essential
skill
system
is
a
reporting
system,
that's
required
by
the
u.s
department
of
labor,
through
which
we
report
to
them
regularly
of
what
the
the
data
shows
on
the
assessment
of
skills
and
job
placements.
B
B
Mr
glass
mentioned
about
no,
I
think
no,
I
think
it's
a
president
kctc
has
mentioned
about
60
percent
of
the
the
students
coming
in
are
underprepared,
and-
and
I
and
I
you
may
not
have
an
answer
to
this,
but
I
just
like
to
put
a
bug
in
the
ear
or
whatever.
Perhaps
if
they
can
get,
you
know
the
secretaries
get
together
on
discussing
this.
B
F
B
G
Yes,
sir,
couldn't
agree
more
education,
training
are
the
key
without
a
doubt,
and,
and
I'll
certainly
have
that
conversation
with
commissioner
glass
and
with
other
secretaries,
to
see
how
we
can
address
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr.
B
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair
secretary
link,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
sir.
A
H
Have
a
huge
cabinet
and
a
huge
responsibility,
and
we
appreciate
the
the
the
cabinet
what
they
do
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
I
was
looking
at
your
mission
statement,
your
vision
statement.
H
G
I
think
certainly
it
has
to
be
all
right.
It's
I
think,
and
just
a
personal
comment
I
I
think
workforce
development
is
is
a
nonpartisan
issue.
Yes,.
H
G
Think
we
all
have
the
same
goal
is
to
get
people
I
mean
what
are
we
doing?
We
want
to
get
people
educated,
we
want
to
get
them
trained
and
we
want
to
get
them
to
work
and
be
productive
citizens
in
our
communities,
and
I
do
believe
that
again
with
the
economic
development
announcements
that
have
been
you
know,
put
forth
all
across
the
state
and
certainly
education
and
healthcare.
Those
are
always
critical
issues,
but
I
think
workforce
development
in
this
day
and
age
is
certainly
a
very
important
and
critical
issue.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
very
much
do
a
follow-ups.
Yes,
you
may,
in
light
of
that,
I've
had
a
number
of
calls
and
and
visits
from
from
constituents
and
people
from
around
the
commonwealth
related
to
the
governor's
scholars
program,
and
I'm
sure
you
know
where
I'm
going
with
this.
I
know
that
I
do
well.
I
think
it's
pretty
pretty
well
known
in
across
the
land.
H
H
Let
you
follow
up
with
that,
but
in
my
understanding,
sir,
I'm
sorry
chair
sure
you
follow
up.
Yes,
your
mission
is
vitally
important.
It's
it's
important
to
the
young
people,
the
people
across
the
age
range
and
across
the
state
and
the
work
that
you
do
is
vitally
important
in
getting
people
trained
and
getting
into
work.
They're
employers
who
are
looking
for
employees
and
there
are
students
who
want
opportunities,
their
parents
who
want
opportunities
for
their
kids,
that
they
could.
They
could
put
down
roots
here
and
grow,
yes,
that
they
themselves
could
have
a
family.
H
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
that
I
apologize
for
my
tardiness.
I
sent
you
a
message
that
court
happens
when
it
happens
and
the
judges
take
as
long
as
they
take,
and
this
judge
went
as
fast
as
a
judge
could
have
gone.
So
that's
not
their
fault.
F
Okay,
I've
eased
I've
asked
each
one
of
the
agencies
has
come
before
this
this
body.
These
same
sorts
of
questions
I
actually
found
this.
The
presentation
you've
handed,
is
pretty
pretty
helpful,
showing
us
the
various
organizational
units,
if
you've
as
you've,
described
them
between
those
10
organizational
units.
How
many
it
systems
are
there.
G
F
D
G
F
To
are
there
existing
if
I
made
mr
chair
assuming
a
couple
of
I'm
just
out
of
habit,
and
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
that
latitude.
F
Is
there
something
are
there?
Are
there
I.t
or
other
technology
related
impediments
to
the
cabinet
being
able
to
serve
its
function
better,
that
you
can
identify.
G
Off
the
top
of
my
head,
one
thing
that
that
I've
really
been
interested
in
and
we
as
a
cabinet
have
been
interested
in
is,
is
being
more
proactive
of
reaching
out
to
people
in
the
workforce
and
ascertaining,
if
they're,
not
in,
if
they're,
not
employed.
Why
aren't
they
employed
instead
of
having
a
career
center
or
instead
of
us
waiting
for
people
to
come
to
us?
G
I
would
rather
go
to
the
people
and
find
out
what
do
they
need
to
get
into
the
workforce
and
we're
currently
looking
at
at
any
technology
that
might
help
us
identify
who
those
people
are
so
that
we,
we
can
then
establish
communication
with
them
directly
to
see
if
we
can't
help
them
get.
F
F
G
If
I
could,
we
are
getting
ready
to
execute
a
contract
with
linkedin
to
become
our
essential
skills
program,
so
that
will
help
us
build
a
more
robust
employment
system.
F
Two
more
questions,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
you
may
thank
you.
First,
the
the
I.t
or
the
technological
impediments
question
I
still
want
to
get
an
answer
to
this.
Is
the
executive
branch
efficiency
task
force
and,
to
be
very
blunt,
I'd
be
stunned
and
so
far
I
have
been
stunned
each
time
an
agency's
come
in.
G
A
G
Should
be,
and
that's
usually
I'm
going
to
guess
is
a
budgetary
issue,
but
for
these
systems
to
to
run
at
peak
efficiency,
they
need
to
have
the
latest
updates,
and
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
that
we're
really
taking
a
serious
look
at
is
what
systems
need
to
be
upgraded.
What
systems
need
to
be
replaced
for
us
to
better
do
our
jobs.
F
G
They're
all
important,
but
it's
it's
a
peak
importance,
is
the
ui
system
and
getting
it
replaced
and
one
of
the
issues
and
we're
still
working
on
that
and-
and
we
believe
that
the
problem
we're
seeing
nationwide
in
talking
with
national
organizations
is
when
the
pandemic
struck.
The
demands
upon
the
u.s
systems
across
every
state
many
had
were
in
the
same
situation.
Kentucky
was,
and
with
great
credit
to
our
I.t
staff.
G
We
have
upgraded
existing
systems,
we
have
made
them
much
more
efficient,
but
you've
got
several
states
that
are
looking
to
replace
their
unemployment
insurance
systems
or
significantly
upgrade
them,
and
you
only
have
very
limited
vendors
that
have
the
capacity
and
the
capabilities
of
doing
that.
So
it's
basic
supply
and
demand.
G
The
demand
is
very
high
and
the
supplies
is
low,
so
we're
trying
to
to
work
our
way
through
that
dilemma
of
finding
a.
I
don't
want
to
just
sign
a
contract
for
a
new
ui
system
without
knowing
that
that
that
vendor
can
perform.
That
would
be
a
disservice.
I
think
to
the
commonwealth
and
people
this
state,
so
we're
going
to
find
the
best
system
that
we
can.
F
Mr
chair,
I'd
only
ask
that
in
the
follow-up
information
that
that
we
asked
them
to
provide,
in
addition
to
what
their
I.t
setup
looks
like
on
these
various
agencies
within
the
cabinet,
I
want
them
to
respond
to
the
the
concern
about
gsp
or
gsa.
F
A
One
quick
question
follow
up
on
the
ui
system.
Can
you
just
give
us
a
brief
where
we're
at
on
evaluating?
I
mean
you
kind
of
did,
but
you
didn't.
I
didn't
hear
everything
I
wanted
to
hear
as
far
as
how
how
quickly
that's
going
to
be
what
your
goal
is,
how
quickly
it's
going
to
be
in
effect
when
it's
going
to
be
purchased
if
it's
been
purchased
and
what
your
budgeted.
What
your
goal
is
budget
wise
to
spend
on
this,
this
specific
software.
A
G
That's
correct,
that's
correct
and
we're
still
looking
at
market
conditions
and
again
supply
and
demand
regarding
where
we
are.
I
want
to
be
very
careful.
I
understand
I'm
an
old
finance
guy
too,
so
I'm
just
old,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
anything
I'm
not
supposed
to
when
it's
an
open
procurement,
so
I
can
certainly
tell
you
that
it
is
still
ongoing.
G
We
have
been
working
with
a
vendor.
There's
still,
you
know
a
project,
this
size,
there's
negotiations
and
things
of
that
nature
that
we're
working
through,
but
certainly
when
we
have
information
that
we
can
provide.
We
certainly
will
do
that
regarding
a
timeline,
certainly
as
soon
as
possible.
G
If
that's
that's
a
very
vague
answer,
but
I
suspect
that
once
a
contract
is
executed,
given
the
the
capacities
of
the
vendors
across
the
country
that
we're
looking
anywhere
from
30
to
40
months
is
my
my
uneducated
guests,
but
these
are
very
large,
very
complex
systems
and-
and
I
think
again
with
the
capacity
of
some
of
these
vendors
they're
stretched
and
we
we
want
to
get
the
best
product.
I
would
rather
get
it
right
than
get
it
fast.
G
The
the
system
that
we
have
now
has
been
upgraded
over
the
last
two
years.
It
was
several
updates
behind
and
we
have
addressed
that.
So
I
get
a
report
every
morning
as
to
how
that
system
is
working
and
every
morning
I
get
a
report
that
says
no
issues
which
no
news
is
good
news,
so
right
now
we're
maintaining,
and
if
we
can
avoid
any
other
catastrophic
events.
G
I
will
tell
you
and
with
great
credit
to
our
unemployment
insurance
staff
with
the
the
tragedy,
the
tornadoes
in
western
kentucky
and
now
the
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky.
G
Several
of
our
unemployment
insurance
staff
were
pulled
off
of
their
regular
work
to
be
in
those
areas
physically
in
those
areas
there
at
all
the
disaster,
recovery
centers
and
we
even
borrowed
with
governor
edwards
help
from
the
state
of
louisiana.
We
borrowed
a
mobile
unit
and
we
took
that
mobile
unit
to
the
state
parks
where
people
had
been
displaced.
G
A
G
We
certainly
work
with
with
the
us
department
of
labor,
because
they
they
have
a
national
picture
of.
D
Thank
you,
mr
secretary.
I
do
have
a
follow-up
on
the
on
the
system
issue
and
I
don't
think
this
will
be
a
contract.
Confidentiality
issue
is
okay.
My
understanding
from
when
we
were
discussing
funding
a
couple
of
years
ago
is
that
you
weren't
looking
for
an
off-the-shelf
solution
that
you
would,
you
would
buy
an
off-the-shelf
product
and
then
adapt
it.
It
was
sounded
like
at
the
time
more.
This
is
you're
going
to
write
something
from
scratch
for
kentucky.
Could
you
comment
on
that?
Please.
G
That
is,
that
is
not
my
my
goal
and
as
far
as
off
the
shelf
goes,
we
did
a
lot
of
research.
There
was
not
a
an
off-the-shelf
product.
Now
I
will
say
there
are
products
that
have
been
developed
or
systems
that
have
been
developed
generally
speaking,
but
because
of
differences
of
state
laws,
they
will
have
to
be
tailored
to
each
state's
needs
and
requirements.
D
G
Staples
these
are
very
large,
complex
systems,
but
I
do
believe
there
are
a
limited
number
of
vendors
across
the
country
that
have
developed
the
basic
system
and
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for.
You
know
we
we
don't
want.
We
don't
want
to
write
a
whole
new
system
that
that
wouldn't
be
smart
and,
quite
honestly,
I
don't
think
that's
something
we
want
to
own
and
be
responsible
for
upgrading
all
the
time.
G
That's
why
we
want
to
find
a
qualified
vendor
that
has
the
expertise
and
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
keep
us
upgraded
so
that
situations
like
this
that
happen
in
the
future.
Hopefully
certainly
I
won't
be
around.
I
hope,
but,
as
I
made
a
comment
to
the
ui
reform
task
force
earlier,
it
may
not
be
exactly
building
the
church
for
easter
sunday.
A
G
D
Sure
the
a
couple
other
questions
is
the
merger
of-
and
this
may
be
his
question,
but
the
merger
of
the
two
cabinets
I
assume,
reduce
the
number
of
non-merit
employees.
When
you
combine
cabinets
is,
can
you
can
do
you
have
a
number
what
the
savings
of
that
combination
has
been?
I.
G
D
I
would
like
that
and
and
the
other
is
you
had
a
very
helpful
breakdown
of
employees
by
activity.
I
guess
of
your
10
activities,
but
the
department
of
workforce
development
had
40
of
your
employees.
I
would
like
to
see
where
do
they
break
down
in
this
listing
where's
the
bolus,
the
big,
certainly
chunk
of.
G
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
guess
you
knew
I
would
have
some
questions
since
I've
worked
at
both
cabinets,
so
I
have
a
plethora.
If
you
indulge
me
on
I'll,
try
to
be
quick
as
many
as
I
can.
I
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
council
flynn,
deputy
wise
and,
of
course,
secretary
link
you're
in
a
hot
seat
so
and
it's
gonna
be
hot
for
a
while.
So.
I
With
the
combination
of
the
cabinets,
it's
a
great
opportunity,
but
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
you're
going
to
take
a
lot
of
heat.
It's
a
large
cabinet,
but
what
we
don't
understand
most
of
the
legislature
is
so
much
of
it
is
attachments
for
that.
You
have
no
control
over
or
a
little
of
just
like
they
ask
if
you're
on
the
board
of
the
kde
you're,
not
you
get
to
sit
in
on
the
meetings,
but
that's
about
it.
Another
one
is
the
governor's
scholars,
the
you
know.
It
looked
like
that.
I
I
A
couple
of
small
questions
can
kentucky
stats.
I
see
you
have
kentucky
center,
for
statistics
is.
I
I
Who
gets
to
go
out
and
give
the
safety
awards
yeah?
We
do
that?
Yes,
okay!
Oh
the
big
problem
we
had
was
with
osha
inspectors,
have
y'all
upgraded
their
grades.
Have
what?
What
is
your
training
for
them?
Have
you
done
apprenticeships
for
them?
What's
your
status
on.
G
We
are
working
on
the
the
compensation
package
because
you
know
we.
We
need
quality
individuals
for
that.
As
far
as
apprenticeship
course,
we
we
do
the
training
of
any
new
inspectors
that
are
hired.
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
specific
apprenticeship
for
that,
but
working
with
the
the
apprenticeships.
I
B
Well,
in
terms
of
the
legal
services
that
are
provided
to
each
of
those
departments-
yes,
but
not
in
charge
of
the
department's
proper.
I
Okay,
can
you
give
me
an
answer
on
how
what's
the
backlog
on,
on
the
your
cases,
sure,
okay.
G
I
Workers
claims,
but
the
the
insurance
that
are
not
paying
the
claims
we
y'all.
I
Filed
suit
yes
and
there's
a
backlog
of
of
that,
okay
and
you
work
with
the
attorney
general
on
a
lot
of
it.
Yes,
so,
okay
and
then
I'd
like
to
have
a
rundown
on
the
registered
apprenticeship
program,
I
think
that
you
probably
don't
have
any
employees
left
that
are
actually
in
that
program.
I
G
Right
and
that's
that's
you're
right,
we
have
excuse
me,
we
have
lost
some
employees
that
we're
looking
to
to
backfill.
Excuse
me,
but
we're
doing
that
as
quickly
as
possible
and
then
shoot.
Excuse
me
in
this
in
this
labor
market,
a
lot
of
companies
and
a
lot
of
organizations
are
looking
for
people
with
those
skills
and
we're
competing
against
them.
So
we're
doing
our
best.
G
I
And
the
it
you
know
there
was
ask
about
your
systems.
I
know,
because
you
have
a
combination,
a
lot
of
attachments
in
that
your
cabinet
doesn't
have
just
one
system,
for
instance
the
unemployment
system,
you
you're,
trying
to
get
a
new
one
to
do
it,
and
I
think
you
can
tout
your
claim
system,
because
steve
beshear
started
and
governor
bevin
finished
that
where
it
used
to
be
just
paper-
and
now
it's
in
in
that
in
that
system,
I
noticed
you
said
that
you
don't
want
that.
I
You
want
a
company
to
come
in
and
you
don't
want
to
own
the
system.
I
think
you
need
to
qualify
that
because,
in
the
claims
department,
the
best
thing
we
did
is
own
the
code,
because
if
you
don't
own
the
code
you're
totally
relying
on
a
company
that
may
be
defunct,
bought
out
or
charging
you
too
much
to
come
in
and
do
your
services.
I
G
I
I
Certainly,
get
you
a
break
because
working
together
is
is
very
tough.
Yes,
because
when
we
were
doing
the
claims
and
getting
a
new
system
in,
we
had
to
wait
for
clt
to
come
over
and
blah
blah,
and
we
finally
stepped
on
them
and
said
that
we
want
to
be
like
ksp.
If
we
have
a
problem,
we
want
to
you
there
now
and
not
to
have
to
go
through
a
an
order.
Sure.
G
G
I
And
the
next
thing
that
the
last
thing
that
not
brought
up
at
all
and
I'm
sure
senator
westerfield-
is
very
interested
in
this
and
you're
going
to
be
thrown
into
it,
whether
you
like
it
or
not,
is
cyber.
So
we
need
to
talk
about
that
off.
I.
G
G
It
and
everybody,
and
on
the
ui
side
one
thing
I
would
mention
is
we:
we
have
put
into
place
measures
against
fraud
that
have
essentially
stopped
unemployment
and
fraudulent
understanding.
I
What
I'm
talking
about?
That's
just
the
part
yeah.
The
other
part,
is
the
workforce,
development,
the
education
and
that
for
the
badly
needed
cyber
engineers,
there's
700
000
jobs
across
the
nation
that
they
can't
fill
now
right
and
they're
six
income.
You
know
six
figure
incomes,
so
was
that
quick
enough
very.
A
A
Any
other
questions
I
have
a
couple
more
and
if
we
look
at
the
under
workforce
development,
I
noticed
a
large
portion
of
your
budgets
there,
200
million.
Is
that
correct?
A
Do
you
have
a
way
of
assessing
you
talked
about
kind
of
thinking
through
all
the
there's,
always
new
proj,
always
new
schools
of
thought
on
how
to
get
people
into
the
workforce?
How
to
train
them?
G
I
I've
been
here
for
a
year
now
in
this
role,
so
I
don't
know
that
I
can
really
provide
you
a
thorough
answer
to
that.
What
I
would
say
is
that
we
always
have
to
be
continually
looking
at
how
we're
doing
right
and
what's
not
working
or
what
is
working.
How
is
technology,
what
new
systems
are
available
to
us
to
allow
us
to
do
our
jobs
better?
G
So
we'll
continue
to
do
that
and,
of
course,
the
data
we
need
to
capture
all
the
data
we
possibly
can
to
tell
us
how
things
are
working
and
and
help
us
make
better
decisions
about.
You
know:
do
we
do
we
keep
this
system?
Do
we
buy
a
new
system?
Do
we
tweak
the
current
system?
I
agree
with
you
completely.
There
should
always
be
continuous
improvement
in
what
we
do.
A
So
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
for
is
just
is
some
kind
of
evaluation
going
on
all
the
time,
because
I
think,
unfortunately
in
government,
sometimes
people
you
know,
we've
always
done
it.
This
way,
that's
the
answer
and
I
think
if
there,
if
there
are
programs
that
aren't
working
and
you're
still
spending
millions
of
dollars
on
them,
you
know
we
need
to
focus
those
money
somewhere
else.
Sure
and.
G
On
how
on
how
it
is
and
and
what
the
results
are,
I
think
to
your
question,
so
I
think
we're
all
striving
for
the
same
goal
that
we're
spending
our
money
efficiently
and
achieving
the
best
results.
We
can
very
good.
A
I
tell
you,
you
know
we
mentioned
at
the
very
beginning.
This
is
a
massive
cabinet,
a
lot
of
questions
I
mean
I
still
have
a
bunch
of
questions.
In
the
back
of
my
mind,
I
just
working
on
formulating
them,
so
I
think
at
this
time
maybe
we'll
just
pause
and
say
thank
you
for
the
information
that
you've
given
us
and
maybe
charge
there
are.
A
We
have
had
some
requests
that
we've
made
of
you
of
your
cabinet
and
then
also
leave
the
members
with
the
opportunity
to
send
questions
into
our
staff,
and
we
can
forward
it
to
you
all
and
maybe
have
you
back
next
month
and
if
it's
the
next
month,
then
we'll
you
know
if
you
need
time
we'll
we'll
give
you
okay
that
time,
but
I
think
there's
still
some
important
questions
to
ask
and
I'm
just
I'm
blown
away
by
how
big
the
cabinet
is
and
how
how
how
much
oversight
you
have-
and
we
just
need
to
be
cognizant
of
making
sure
that
every
dime
that
we
put
in
each
of
these
cabinets
are
spent
wisely
and
if
they're
not
being
spent
wisely.
G
Sir,
and
I
would
tell
you
that
the
people
that
are
here
with
me
and
and
the
entire
staff,
I
think
we
have
a
little
over
1500
people
now
on
the
new
cabinet
and
every
one
of
them
is,
is
committed-
and
you
know
I'm
sitting
here
with
with
my
two
colleagues,
but
it
takes
all
1500
of
them
to
make
this
work
and-
and
they
do
work
very
hard,
they're
very
committed
to
what
they're
doing,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
this
task
force
and
and
with
you
in
the
future,
to
help
us
be
better
at
what
we
do.