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From YouTube: Early Childhood Education Task Force (9-22-22)
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A
Four-Year-Olds
in
preschool,
which
is
a
fall
from
28th
in
the
nation
back
in
2008..
We
know
that
for
the
last
decade
the
total
number
of
Kentucky
three
and
four-year-olds
in
preschools
flatlined
at
around
half
again
mixed
delivery
will
help
to
ensure
that
greater
access
is
possible
and
in
the
fall
of
2020,
only
53
percent
of
Kentucky's
Public
School
kindergartners
were
identified
as
kindergarten
ready
on
the
grant
screener.
So
again,
mixed
quivery
will
help
and
that
Early
Education
preparation
and
when
it
comes
to
the
economy.
A
So
I
have
a
video
that
I
will
not
be
able
to
show
due
to
technical
abilities,
but
I'll
do
a
good
job
explaining
it.
I
will
say
that
when
this
PowerPoint
is
uploaded,
you
will
have
the
ability
to
click
on
the
link.
It'll
be
a
live
link
and
I
highly
encourage
you
to
watch
it
as
it
does
a
great
job
explaining.
A
But
if
we
take
a
look
at
where
just
a
full-scale
expansion
of
the
public
preschool
system
has
happened
in
other
states,
it's
not
fared
well,
for
a
number
of
reasons.
Perhaps
most
comparable
to
Kentucky
is
Tulsa
Oklahoma
in
Tulsa,
rather
than
going
with
mixed
delivery,
they
opted
not
for
that.
They
opted
for
a
simple
expansion
of
the
public
school
system.
A
We
saw
there
that
cost
for
early
care
and
education
for
that
zero
through
three
population,
increased
33
percent
overall
from
2008
to
2018,
with
spikes
of
up
to
55
percent
in
increased
cost
for
infant
and
toddler
care.
Why
is
that?
It's
important
to
note
that
if
you
opt
not
for
mixed
delivery,
you
will
take
those
three
and
four-year-old
children
into
the
public
system,
which
will
then
create
a
weaker
market
for
child
care
in
particular.
A
That
will
that
will
we
know
unequivocally
from
these
examples
crash
that
private
Child,
Care,
market
and
I
know
that
we
think
economically,
but
we
also
think
in
what's
in
the
best
interest
for
children.
Well,
if
we
crash
that
private
Child
Care
market-
and
you
have
an
infant,
where
will
you
find
care?
A
A
We
also
have
examples
from
both
California,
where
California
saw
the
number
of
home-based
or
family
child
care
providers
decrease
almost
30
percent
from
08
to
16,
due
to
not
going
with
mixed
delivery
and,
finally,
in
New,
York
City
a
model
that's
often
touted
as
the
model
for
a
full
cell
expansion
of
the
public
school
system.
They
saw
a
20
reduction
in
available
infant
and
toddler
care
and
all
the
slots
that
lost
that
were
lost
were
found
to
be
in
high
poverty
areas,
and
this
is
all
data
from
the
early
care
and
education
Consortium.
A
A
We
want
all
young
children
to
have
access
to
preschool,
but
it's
not
as
simple
as
it
may
otherwise
seem,
and
it's
important
that
we
go
about
this
in
the
best
way
possible
at
a
policy
level
and
that
best
possible
way.
The
opinion
of
the
Pritchard
committee
and
I
think
you'll
find
from
others
today
is
via
a
mixed
delivery
system.
A
So
if
we
go
ahead
here,
what
are
some
model?
States
Kentucky
can
emulate
and
I
want
to
preface
this
with.
We
know
that
no
two
states
in
the
union
are
alike.
Every
state
is
different,
so
here
are
some
states
that
we
thought
might
work
well
in
Kentucky,
you'll
notice,
demographically,
geographically.
Economically,
many
of
them
are
similar
to
our
state,
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
West,
Virginia,
Alabama,
South,
Carolina,
Maryland,
and
maybe
not
so
close
to
us,
but
a
good
model.
A
One
example
that
we
would
like
to
highlight
today
is
from
our
sister
State,
not
too
far
away
just
over
in
West
Virginia
West
Virginia
has
an
excellent
mixed
delivery
system
that
again,
while
you
can't
exactly
transfer
everything
from
West
Virginia
into
Kentucky,
it's
a
good
model
for
us
to
look
to
and
learn
from.
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
welcome
Janet
bachhaker
from
West
Virginia
to
share
her
presentation
with
us.
C
B
B
B
A
D
D
E
E
E
So
I
am
here
today
to
talk
about
the
mixed
delivery
model
that
we
currently
have
in
Fayette
County.
We
actually
have
had
some
Partnerships
that
go
back
many
years.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
I
and
I
know
time
is
limited,
so
I
will
jump
right
into
the
PowerPoint
so,
but
just
just
for
you
to
have
a
little
bit
of
background.
E
E
So
last
spring
our
board
approved
a
five-year
preschool
plan
and
that
included
limiting
our
class
sizes
to
15,
which,
as
I,
show
some
numbers
through
here
based
on
the
needs
that
we
have.
That
is
a
significant
for
us
to
ensure
high
quality
education
for
the
students
that
attend
our
program
locations.
We
have
30
locations
and
those
include
the
two
programs
that
I'll
share
today,
specifically
UK
and
Family
Care
Center.
We
have
45
classrooms
and
that
includes
a
remote
Learning
Classroom
that
we
have
this
year,
which
is
a
KDE
pilot.
E
We
assigned
that
a
contract
with
them
last
year
to
do
a
pilot
last
year
and
this
year,
and
then
we
have
81
sessions.
So
that's
a
combination
of
our
AM
and
PM
sessions
that
we
have
and
we
do
have
six
full
day
sessions
and
five
of
those
are
our
Head
Start
partnership
classrooms
and
then
one
is
a
preschool
partnership
grant
that
we
receive
to
expand
services
to
children
and
that
could
our
remote
Learning
Classroom
our
current
Fayette
County
numbers
I
did
these
on
September
20th.
We
currently
are
serving
904
children.
E
Our
December
1
count
last
year
was
856.,
so
you
can
see
that
we
have.
We
are
going
back
to
pre-covered
numbers.
We
are
definitely
reaching
more
families
and
more
families
are
coming
after
covid
for
a
program
in
the
number
last
year
for
December
1
463
of
those
had
disabilities
and
393
qualified
by
income
and
so
of
those
463
150
of
those
students
were
in
the
category
of
severe,
so
those
are
children
with
autism,
traumatic,
brain
injury,
fmd,
functional
mental
disability.
E
So
those
are
you
know,
students,
so
we
had
150
of
those
students
in
our
classrooms
that
we
served
and
in
order
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
meet
everyone's
needs
to
the
maximum
ability
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
went
to
15
15
children
capacity
in
our
classrooms,
so
for
for
state-funded
preschool
in
Fayette
County.
Our
mixed
delivery.
Model
includes
a
partnership
with
Family
Care
Center
So
Family
Care
Center
is
an
entity
of
the
Lexington
Fayette
Urban
County
Government.
If
you've
never
visited
there,
I
highly
encourage
Sarah
shaking
her
head.
E
It's
a
unique
building
in
and
of
itself,
but
the
services
that
it
provides
are
phenomenal.
They
have
a
Child
Care
Program
that
serves
children
six
weeks
through
five
years
old.
They
have
a
high
school
parent
education
program,
they
have
a
hands
home
visit
program
and
then
they
have
an
on-site
Pediatric
Health
clinic.
So
we
have
a
classroom
at
the
Family
Care
Center
amongst
all
of
that
great
stuff
going
on,
and
so
the
partnership
with
Fayette
County.
That
classroom
started
in
1992,
so
we
have
been
there
and
partnered
with
them
for
a
very
long
time.
E
Family
Care
Center
completes
a
yearly
partnership
application
with
KDE
once
KDE
gives
the
approval.
Then
we
there's
a
contract
between
us
and
family
Family,
Care
Center.
They
have
a
five-star
rating,
their
COA
accredited
and
for
them
that's
the
Council
on
accreditation
and
that's
a
accreditation
through
Human,
Services
Agency,
because
that's
what
the
purpose
of
Family
Care
Center
is
as
a
Human
Service
Agency.
E
E
We
have
some
children
that
are
bussed
to
the
facility,
but
we
also
have
children
that
attend
a
Child
Care
Program
on
site,
therap,
Family,
Care,
Center
and
then
at
this
facility
there's
a
bathroom
that
sits
right,
so
they
just
walk
through
the
bathroom
and
they're
in
they're
in
their
new
class.
So
we
do
have
that
capacity
to
share
children,
and
it
has
been
a
really
great
ongoing
partnership
that
we've
had
with
Family
Care
Center.
E
The
other
partnership
that
we
have
is
with
the
University
of
Kentucky
Early,
Childhood
labs,
and
so
this
is
located
on
the
University
of
Kentucky's
campus.
They
have
a
Child
Care
Program
that
serves
children
six
weeks
through
five
years
old
they're,
also
a
teacher
training
site,
and
they
provide
a
research
site
for
Child
Development
and
early
childhood
education.
E
So
our
partnership
with
them.
It
was
established
in
1995.
again
like
Family
Care
Center.
They
complete
a
yearly
application
with
KDE.
They
have
a
five-star
rating
they're
in
aeyc
accredited,
that
is
the
National
Association
for
the
education
of
young
children,
so
there's
different
models
of
serving
children
there
so
I
put
that
in
here
because
prior
to
covid,
we
had
a
Fayette
County
on-site
classroom
there
and
we
provided
the
staff
some
years
depending
on
the
need
and
the
space
that
they
need.
The
children
would
attend
a
half
day.
E
We
did
have
a
full
day,
but
then
they
could
attend
the
afternoon
as
wrap
around
Care
at
the
lab
school.
The
past
couple
of
years
with
covid
and
the
space
that
the
lab
school
is
needed
just
for
their
own
capacity,
we've
actually
contracted
with
them.
To
provide
services
on
site,
so
the
teachers
there
have
the
same
qualifications,
our
Public
School
teachers
have
the
iece,
the
interdisciplinary
Early
Childhood
Education
certification
and
they
provide
the
services
and
then
Fayette
County
pays
them
to
provide
those
Services.
E
E
So
we
currently
partner
with
40
Child
Care
programs
to
share
about
200
children,
so
that
is
children
that
attend
child
care
and
then
their
parents
choose
to
apply
or
come,
send
them
to
state-funded
preschool,
either
with
a
disability
or
based
on
income,
and
then
they
go
back
and
forth
between
the
programs.
It's
parent
choice
we
have.
Our
numbers
are
up.
E
We
partner
with
40
Child
Care
programs
to
do
that,
and
we
have
child
care
programs
that
seek
us
out
to
help
us
provide
that
information
to
their
families
to
be
able
to
to
come
to
our
program.
We
have
also
visited
Child
Care
programs
to
provide
support
for
individual
children
and
we
have
professional
learning
opportunities
that
include
Early,
Childhood
Educators
from
private
child
care
and
state
funded
preschool.
E
So
we
do
do
Blended,
professional
learning
activities
for
all
Early
Childhood
Professionals
in
Fayette
County,
Head
Start,
so
we
partner
with
Community
Action,
Council,
Head
Start,
so
that's
Early,
Head,
Start
and
prep
academies
are
the
services
that
they
offer
and
then
our
partnership
with
them.
We
complete
a
yearly
full
utilization.
That
is
it
a
requirement
from
KDE.
We
complete
yearly
contracts
with
them
for
a
blended
and
partnership
classrooms,
and
so
Blended
classrooms
are
where
they
provide
us
staff
to
put
in
those
classrooms
and
then
the
partnership
classrooms
or
where
they
pay
us
to
serve
children.
E
Those
are
full
day
classrooms
and
we
have
to
whatever
program
whether
state,
funded
or
Head
Start
has
the
highest
standard.
If
that's
the
right
way
to
to
say
it,
we
have
to
follow
that
standard.
So
we
have
to
work
closely
with
them
to
ensure
that
we're
following
the
Head
Start
model
or
the
requirements
there,
as
well
as
the
KDE
requirements.
We
have
shared
Community
advertisement,
we
have
Flyers
that
have
both
state
funded
and
child
and
Head
Start
information
on
it.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
are
touching
as
many
families
as
we
can.
E
We
do
reciprocal
referrals.
We
have
a
family
that
call,
and
maybe
they
don't
qualify
for
our
program.
It
doesn't
meet
their
needs.
We
will
refer
them
to
Head
Start
and
vice
versa.
Head
Start
will
send
families
to
US
based
on
having
conversations
with
families
and
what
their
needs
are.
And
then
we
have
special
education
Partnerships
where
Fayette
County.
We
have
a
speech
therapist
that
will
go
out
and
do
speech
screenings
in
the
Head
Start
Community
direct
manage
sites
in
their
child
care
and
partnership
sites.
E
D
A
D
A
First
and
foremost,
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
so
intrigued
by
West
Virginia's
model
is
the
governance
model.
When
we
talk
about
a
mixed
delivery
preschool
and
expanding
public
preschool
throughout
the
state
on
a
voluntary
basis,
it's
important
that
all
parts
of
the
Early
Childhood
sector
have
a
co-equal
seat
at
the
table.
A
This
image
here,
I
think,
gives
you
a
pretty
good
overview
of
what
that
collaboration
looks
like
inclusive
of
faith-based
faith-based
programs
as
well.
Head
Start
classroom
teachers,
birth
to
three
and
also
local
Boards
of
Ed
I
really
wanted
to
hit
home
that
collaborative
nature.
But
it's
also
important
here
to
note
that
at
the
state
level,
it
is
a
co-equal
partnership
between
the
West
Virginia
Department
of
Education
and
even
though
the
name
is
different
in
West
Virginia,
their
version
of
the
Cabinet
for
Health
and
Family
Services.
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
one
item
that
I
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
to
highlight
with
the
committee
today
is
an
initiative
that
is
being
led
by
the
public
life
Foundation
of
Owensboro
locally
in
Owensboro
Kentucky.
When
we
talk
about
how
important
local
collaboration
is
to
something
like
mixed
delivery.
Communities
like
Owensboro
are
the
gold
standard
in
our
state
for
showing
how
local
collaboration
in
early
childhood
education
is
possible.
I'm
holding
up
and
I
have
some
copies
for
the
committee
as
well,
and
the
executive
summary
of
the
greater
Owensboro
partnership
for
early
development.
A
But
it's
also
included
inclusive
as
I
like
to
say
the
butcher,
the
baker,
the
Candlestick
maker,
every
member
of
that
community.
That
goes
to
make
that
Community
work
so
with
this
I,
certainly
encourage
you
to
investigate
more
deeply
their
work
and
their
six
recommendations
that
they
will
actionize
over
the
course
of
the
next
five
to
six
years
to
ensure
that
in
Owensboro
Davis
County,
every
child
has
access
to
high
quality,
Early
Education.
A
F
I
appreciate
the
continued
conversation
on
the
requirements
of
mixed
delivery.
You've
heard
about
different
options
for
preschool
in
Kentucky,
we've
talked
about
Head
Start
and
Early
Head
Start,
which
serves
children
zero
to
five
and
focuses
on
serving
children
in
poverty.
We've
seen
Public
School
Preschool,
which
main
driving
point
is
to
serve
children
with
disabilities
and
then
also
children
at
low
income
and
then
child
care,
which
is
the
private
sector.
F
So
we
started
off
talking
about
head
start
again.
Head
Start
is
three
to
five-year-olds
An
Early
Head
Start
is
zero
to
three.
Most
of
those
slots
are
for
children
whose
families
are
at
the
federal
poverty
level
or
below,
but
they
do
save
some
slots
for
children
with
disabilities.
That
money
comes
directly
from
the
federal
government
to
the
local
grantee
so
to
our
community
action
councils
to
a
public
school
district
who
might
house
it
there.
The
state
has
no
bypass
of
that
money
and
really
what
we
want
to
see.
F
The
the
federal
government
provides
half
day
care
for
those
children
and
usually
in
Kentucky
Head
Start
and
Early
Head
Start
partner,
either
with
a
Child
Care
Program.
So
they
become
a
licensed
Child
Care
Program.
That
also
gets
the
federal
funding
or
they're
housed
in
a
public
school,
and
they
have
a
partnership
with
the
public
school
district
but
blending.
Those
programs
allows
for
the
Head
Start
resources
and,
let
me
tell
you
Head
Start
does
some
of
the
best
wraparound
Services
they
provide
diapers
and
formula.
F
They
do
parent,
GED
programs,
all
kinds
of
things
to
make
sure
families
are
cared
for
when
they
have
young
children.
So
when
we
blend
Head
Start
in
they
offer
those
Family
Resources
to
lots
of
different
families.
Now,
in
the
same
way,
the
public
school
system
you
you
can
qualify
starting
at
three
and
that's
for
three-year-olds
with
disabilities
and
then,
when
we
get
to
four,
it's
children
with
disabilities
or
children
in
a
low
income
level,
and
so
like
Head
Start,
focuses
on
poverty.
Public
school
is
going
to
focus
on
children
with
disabilities.
F
Right
now,
Kentucky
says
that
if
you
have
a
child
who
qualifies
for
public
school
preschool,
you
have
to
find
them
a
spot.
Even
if
every
classroom
you
have
in
the
district
is
full,
you
have
to
come
up
with
it,
so
resources
can
be
slim.
Sometimes
if
a
school
district
has
a
large
amount
of
enrollment.
F
If
Dr
Stevenson
suddenly
had
25
more
children
apply,
then
she
has
to
come
up
with
another
classroom
somewhere,
because
those
children
have
to
have
a
spot,
and
we
have
only
half
day
services
in
many
counties,
mostly
because
of
facility
issues
and
staffing
issues.
If
we
have
to
have
81
programs
during
the
day,
but
only
40
classrooms,
then
the
way
to
resolve
that
is
to
split
those
into
three
hour
sessions.
F
So
so
it's
still
a
major
responsibility
on
the
family.
Parents
have
the
ability
to
choose
wherever
they
want
to
enroll
their
children
with
private
child
care
if
they
can
find
a
spot,
but
they
may
have
limited
access
within
their
community
and
then
we
have
to
think
about
child
care.
Regulations
are
less
stringent
than
Head
Start
and
public
school
preschool,
Head,
Start
and
public
school
preschool
both
have
higher
requirements
for
their
teaching
staff.
F
They
may
have
more
strenuent
curriculum
requirements
or
special
education
support,
and
so
Child
Care
is
more
flexible
as
far
as
how
the
owner
or
the
board
can
distribute
that
program.
But
sometimes
blending
makes
it
a
little
more
complicated,
but
private
Child
Care
also
usually
happens
full
day
and
that's
what
many
of
our
Working
Families
need,
and
many
of
our
Head
Start
programs
and
private
and
public
school
preschool
programs
don't
offer
the
hours
of
operation,
particularly
nights
and
weekends.
F
So
when
we're
thinking
about
blending,
we
have
to
take
all
those
considerations
into
effect
and
think
how
do
we
get
these
together
in
order
to
make
the
it
okay
to
blend
so
that
we
don't
jeopardize
our
funds,
as
Dr
Stevenson
said
the
highest
set
of
Standards
wins.
So
if
you've
Blended
a
Child,
Care
Program
and
a
public
school
preschool
classroom,
then
the
whole
classroom
has
to
operate
by
the
standards
of
the
public
school
classroom,
and
that
includes
the
teaching
staff
and
a
public
school
preschool
classroom.
F
Not
only
does
the
teacher
have
to
have
a
four-year
degree,
but
also
a
teacher
certificate
in
an
interdisciplinary
Early
Childhood,
with
a
background
in
special
ed
as
well.
Child
care
doesn't
have
those
requirements
in
most
settings,
but
we
do
have
high
quality
programs
that
meet
a
lot
of
those
needs.
But
to
be
an
assistant
teacher
in
public
school
preschool,
you
would
need
a
CDA
which
is
equivalent
to
two
college
classes.
It's
a
Child,
Development
Associate.
F
Other
things
that
we
have
to
think
about
with
Blended
programs
is.
We
have
to
meet
minimal
health
and
safety
across
the
board,
but
then
different
types
of
programs
have
different
types
of
accreditation.
Dr
Stevenson
mentioned
the
AC
accreditation,
the
National
Association
for
the
education
of
young
children,
also
Public
School
preschools
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
start
off
at
a
three-star
level
on
our
one
to
five
star
scale.
They
already
have
a
higher
level
of
accreditation
because
of
many
of
the
policies
that
they
have
in
place.
F
So
if
a
Child
Care
Program
blends
with
them,
they
have
to
meet
that
minimum
level
of
the
three-star
standard.
We
have
other
requirements
like
assessing
children,
which
is
great
because
Kentucky
needs
more
children
to
be
assessed
developmentally
at
a
young
age
to
provide
them
those
supports.
But
if
Child
Care
programs
aren't
doing
that,
then
when
they
blend
they
have
to
learn
new
procedures
and
make
sure
that
they're
in
alignment
with
what
the
public
school
or
what
Head
Start
requires
the
special
education
piece
again.
F
Those
referrals
for
special
education,
that's
a
huge
portion
that
child
care
programs
are
lacking
and
Head
Start
serves
children
with
disabilities,
Public
School
Preschool
does
Head.
Start
has
a
policy
that
no
child
can
be
expelled
from
their
program.
If
you're
getting
federal
funds,
a
child
and
Head
Start
may
not
be
expelled.
Child
Care
is
an
industry
that
children
get
expelled
four
times
more
often
than
the
K-12
Public
School
System.
Just
because
many
Child
Care
programs
don't
have
the
resources
to
support
a
child
with
special
needs.
F
The
biggest
part
is
the
finances,
though,
at
the
micro
level,
whoever
is
doing
the
books
for
the
Family
Care
Center
has
to
designate
These
funds
came
from
Head
Start
and
they
were
used
for
these
children.
For
this
half
day
program,
These
funds
came
from
public
school
preschool
and
they
were
used
for
these
children
and
this
staff
member
for
this
half
day
program
and
then
Child
Care
funding
can
be
supported
for
the
rest,
but
it
also
currently
can
only
go
to
children
who
are
in
a
low
income
variable.
F
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
funding
streams
do
not
cross
when
they
don't
match
during
the
audit
process.
That
can
cause
us
to
lose
Child
Care
block,
grant
development
funds
at
the
state
level
or
the
Head
Start
grantee
can
lose
their
federal
funds
through
Head
Start.
If
the
funding
for
Blended
programs
is
not
used
accurately,
and
so
that's
a
really
key
piece
that
the
Administration
has
to
keep
in
mind
as
they
designate
we're
going
to
do
this
Statewide
and
expand
mixed
delivery.
F
F
And
then
there's
a
lot
of
accountability
that
goes
into
Place.
Child
care
programs
are
audited
once
a
year
at
a
minimum.
Complaints
could
lead
to
additional
investigations.
The
public
school
system
has
its
own
accountability,
Branch,
where
assessments
are
done.
Everybody
in
the
state,
utilizes
The,
Early
Childhood
rating
scales,
whether
it's
an
infant
toddler,
classroom,
preschool
classroom
or
an
after-school
classroom,
but
Head
Start
has
additional
assessments
that
they
use
that
are
very
complicated
for
their
classroom
assessment
tools.
F
So,
in
order
to
have
mixed
delivery,
which
benefits
all
these
families
and
children,
it
has
to
be
done
in
compliance
with
multiple
funding
streams
and
we
have
to
meet
the
highest
requirements
of
all.
However,
in
the
end,
as
has
been
mentioned,
families
benefit
for
having
high
quality
care
for
full
day.
F
Services
children
with
disabilities
benefit
because
they're
in
a
day-long
care
where
they
can
get
the
supports
of
the
public
school
system,
but
still
have
the
Extended
Care
hours
that
they
need
and
Head
Start
often
shares
supports
with
families
as
well
as
the
children
enrolled
in
the
program.
The
community
benefits
as
a
whole.
As
long
as
the
program
is
administered
correctly,.
D
H
H
E
H
Well,
Dr
Stevenson:
you
should
know
that
every
time
I
poll,
the
people
in
Fayette
County
about
Early
Child
education
I
do
this.
Every
year
before
the
session,
my
numbers
come
back
with
about
77
of
Fayette
County
and
saying
they
support
Universal
Pre-K.
Okay,
that's
what
I
get
about
77
percent!
So
since
we're
a
testimony
taking
body
here,
I
want
to
know
what
what
your
views
on
that
are
for
those
middle
class
families
who
don't
get
advantage
of
that
because,
as
we
know,
the
wealthy
are
going
to
pay
the
other
three
and
four-year-olds.
H
You
know
go
to
all
the
elite.
Early
Child
schools
in
the
city
and
I'm
not
going
to
mention
them
by
name
so
I'm
gonna
miss
one
I'm
not
going
to
do
that,
and
and
the
low-income
families
through
Head,
Start
and
I'm
gonna,
be
with
Dr
Price
tomorrow
can
take
advantage
of
it's
the
middle
income,
our
middle
income.
That's
that's
armed
by
what
we
see
now
here
in
Kentucky.
So
what's
your
view
on
that.
E
So
you
know,
there's
always
been
a
conversation
in
early
childhood
about
Universal,
preschool
and
then
I
think
last
year
from
the
federal
and
the
state
perspectives,
the
governmental
perspectives,
a
lot
of
conversation
came
up
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
place
for
Universal
preschool.
If
parents
choose
to
I,
don't
think
it
is
mandatory.
E
I
think
it's
voluntary
and
if
a
family
wants
to
choose,
then
as
a
community
as
a
county
as
a
state,
then
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that
within
you
know
our
communities
and
what
that
looks
like,
but
I
do
think
there
is
a
place
for
that
that
if
a
family
does
want
to
send,
you
know
their
child
that
we
have
the
opportunity
for
that.
But
I
think
it's
through
these
conversations,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
that
have
to
be
considered,
but
I
do
think
it
would.
H
Dr
vanover
my
question
to
you
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
you
gave
me
a
reading
assignment
for
this
meeting
that
that
I
want
to
say
I
I,
greatly
appreciate.
It
brought
me
back
to
my
college
days
just
for
the
record
since
we're
taking
notes.
Here
Dr
Vino
has
written
a
book
an
excellent
book
by
the
way
on
America's,
Child,
Care
crisis.
I
would
encourage
all
to
read
that
book.
H
It's
very
enlightening
for
us,
as
we
take
an
in-depth
look,
a
very
surgical,
look
at
the
child
care
industry
here
in
Kentucky,
so
I
want
to
applaud
you
for
your
book.
I've.
Read
that
my
question
to
you
is
this
Dr
vanover
we
really
are
facing
a
conundrum
going
back
to
my
Senate
colleague,
I
want
to
say,
I
want
to
say
Danny,
but
going
back
to
my
Senate
colleague.
H
He
mentioned
this
morning
that
we
do
have
a
situation
where
that,
if
we
just
go-
and
just
you
know,
try
to
do
it,
New,
York
and
California
did
we
will
crush
the
child
care
industry
because
their
business
model
is
such
that
they
really
make
their
money
by
having
four
and
five-year-olds.
In
in
their
school
because
of
the
ratios
and
and
the
faculty,
and
we
have
to
have
daycare
for
Working
Families,
we
just
have
to
have
that
for
our
society
and
the
child
care
industry
is
is
critical.
H
At
the
same
time,
as
you
just
heard
me,
talk
with
Dr
Stevenson,
there's
a
strong
desire
by
at
least
certain
parts
of
the
State,
particularly
where
I'm
from
that
that
middle
class
families
ought
to
be
able
to
send
their
children
to
preschool
without
any
cause
at
all
strong
desire
for
that
and
and
the
numbers
indicate
that
that
students
that
do
that
really
do
see
a
benefit
from
that
use.
In
fact,
you
cite
two
in
your
book
one.
H
They
come
to
kindergarten
with
a
greater
Readiness
than
those
that
haven't
had
any
preschool
and
two
with
English
language,
Learners
they're
able
to
get
off
the
English
learner,
English
language
learner
past
sooner
than
those
that
don't
come
to
preschool.
So
so
again,
I
would
like
to
know
your
thoughts
on
on
how
we,
what's
the
best
way,
to
marry
the
two
so
that
we
keep
the
child
care
industry
in
place,
because
we
need
that.
You
know,
for
our
Workforce
and
and
and
for
people
who
want
to
work
and
build
their
careers.
F
Well,
just
like
the
model
that
Dr
Stevenson
talked
about
now,
Fayette
County
is
only
utilizing
this
for
children
that
qualify
due
to
low
income
or
disability,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
limited
to
that.
So,
if
you
say
in
a
public
school,
we
might
assign
a
price
tag
to
each
student's
tuition.
Each
year
you
know
each
school
is
awarded
nine
thousand
dollars
per
child
or
whatever
the
the
estimate
is
by
the
seek
formula.
F
They
would
get
that
that
number
of
9
000
per
child
in
that
way
to
have
that
high
quality
classroom
at
the
facility,
the
Child
Care
Program,
would
get
the
funding
to
continue
to
operate
as
long
as
they
meet
the
standards
in
the
contract
with
the
public
school
system
and
the
Child
Care
Program
could
continue
to
operate
because,
as
you
said
earlier,
the
three
and
four-year-olds
is
where
child
care
providers
make
their
money
back.
The
ratios
of
adults
to
children
are
so
low
in
the
infant
toddler
classroom
that
they
lose
money.
F
They
have
to
have
the
slightly
larger
preschool
classrooms
in
order
to
make
that
money
back.
If
we
don't
take
those
away,
if
we
have
an
assignment
of
a
per
child
amount
through
the
public
school
system
for
having
that
partnership
classroom,
then
the
Child
Care
Program
would
still
be
able
to
function
because
they
would
still
be
getting
a
tuition
per
child.
F
It
would
just
come
from
the
public
school
system
instead
of
from
the
parents,
and
the
infant
toddler
program
would
still
be
there
to
care
for
the
children
zero
to
three
that
aren't
yet
old
enough
to
participate
in
the
three
to
five
year
old
classroom.
That's
the
type
of
partnership
that
can
ensure
that
child
care
would
not
collapse
now,
at
the
same
time,
not
every
Child,
Care
Program
would
want
to
participate.
F
We
have
private
schools
throughout
Kentucky
that
do
not
take
State
funds
and
they
operate
solely
on
a
tuition-based
system
and
and
they're
in
needed
part
of
the
community
for
families
that
want
that
type
of
option.
Not
every
Child
Care
Program
would
have
to
participate,
but
there
are
high
quality
Child
Care
programs
that
could
easily
partner
with
the
public
school
system
and
already
easily
do
in
some
places
with
Head,
Start
and
and
public
school
preschool
could
receive
that
per
child
amount
and
then
continue
to
operate.
That
way.
Head
Start
already
has
a
very
effective
model.
F
They
have
Early
Childhood,
Partnerships
and
Head
Start
Partnerships,
where
they
partner
with
a
Child
Care
Program.
They
have,
they
give
them
a
certain
number
of
slots,
you're
going
to
have
20
preschool
slots
that
are
funded
by
Head
Start.
We
pay
for
it
we'll
come
in
and
monitor
to
see
how
you
meet
our
expectations.
G
So
it
is,
is
putting
a
preschool
classroom
in
a
child
care
center
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
the
seek
dollars
following
that.
But
the
teachers
that
that
would
teach
this
would
be
paid
at
a
teacher's
salary
would
get
benefits
just
like
other
teachers
and
I'm,
assuming
that's
at.
If,
if
that
is
a
state-funded
child
that
qualifies
on
on
financial
level,
then
that
the
pay
and
benefits
all
that
would
come
from
the
school
system
from
the
state
correct.
G
And,
and
so
so,
the
center
would
get
to
keep
all
of
the
seek
dollars
and
would
that?
How
would
that
compare
to
tuition
for
a
full
classroom
of
preschool
kids
for
for
the
whole
day,
because
you
I
guess
you
would
have
to
convert
at
half
a
day?
You
would
convert
that
preschool
classroom
into
the
centers
Child
Care
Room.
F
So
you
can
double
dip
a
little
bit
a
child
who
is
that
gets
Head
Start
can
also
apply
for
CCAP.
That's
one
of
the
great
things
about
the
partnership,
so
they
get
Child,
Care,
Subsidy
and
head
start
funding.
That's
one
of
the
great
things
about
the
partnership.
So
if
a
child
were
to
get
public
school
funding
at
a
Child,
Care
Program,
that's
licensed,
the
license
program
could
still
qualify
for
Child
Care
Subsidy
for
that
child
as
well.
F
They
may
also
qualify
for
other
types
of
reimbursement,
so
in
in
hey
in
all
ability,
you
could
get
multiple
funding
streams
for
that
child
to
increase
the
quality
of
care
So
currently
for
a
child
who
has
full
day
Head
Start
Head
Start
only
pays
for
the
the
half
day,
but
then
you
apply
for
subsidy.
You
get
the
additional
funding
from
the
child,
licensed
child
care
for
subsidy.
You
have
two
funding
streams
to
cover
the
cost
of
care,
and
you
can
do
a
more.
F
You
know
robust
curriculum
and
supports
for
that
child.
The
same
thing
can
happen
at
a
license
center.
That
partners
with
public
school
preschool
so
seek
funds
might
be
able
to
cover
the
nine
months.
You
know
seven
hours
a
day,
but
the
child
could
also,
if
they
qualify
for
subsidy,
could
get
that
funding,
particularly
on
a
year-round
basis
or
half
day
for
extended
care
beyond
that,
and
those
funds
can
be
utilized
to
to
supplement
the
program
and
supplement
salaries
as
well.
G
G
Don't
remember
a
lot
about
that,
because
I
was
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
I
was
doing
at
that
point,
but
I
see
Logistics
with
staff
as
as
a
CEO
of
a
non-profit
me
not
having
control
of
the
classroom
of
the
staff
that
makes
me
uncomfortable
being
responsible
for
those
children
liability
issues
responsible
for
that.
How
is
that
addressed
in
in
Lexington
or
so.
F
Different
states
do
this
different
ways
if
you
think
about
An,
Early
Head,
Start
partnership,
like
you
were
just
talking
about
Head
Start-
gives
the
funds
to
the
Center
for
a
certain
number
of
slots,
but
the
employees
belong
to
the
the
child
care
partnership
site.
They
they
select
the
employees,
they
just
have
to
meet
a
minimum
level
of
Education
in
order
to
be
employees
for
that
program,
and
they
have
some
staffing
requirements
like
no
matter
how
many
children
are
there.
F
Two
adults
are
always
in
the
classroom
with
the
children
at
the
same
time,
which
is
a
head
start
protocol
that
nobody
else,
child
care
doesn't
always
have
two
adults
present.
So
you
have
to
adhere
to
those
little
extras,
but
the
funding
per
child
comes
to
the
Child
Care
Program
and
they
make
the
Staffing
decisions.
They
make
the
the
HR
decisions
they
do
a
lot
of
that
they
just
get
the
extra
resources
from
Head
Start
that
extra
training
and
the
tuition
money
basically
from
that
program.
F
So,
if
you're,
looking
at
a
state
compilation,
if
you
wanted
to
do
this
at
the
macro
level,
you
just
would
figure
out
how
you
want
to
run
it.
Do
you
want
to
run
it
so
that
the
public
school
has
the
staff,
or
do
you
run
it
so
that
the
public
school
gives
a
per
capita
amount
per
child?
And
then
the
Child
Care
Program
would
do
that
or
like
Dr
Stevenson
mentioned?
Do
you
have
Partnerships
that
are
half
and
half
and
find
Transportation
where
you
bus
children
to
another
part,
that's
still
a
partnership.
F
It
still
provides
full
day.
It
might
be
a
lot
harder
for
kids
who
have
transitions.
My
nine-year-old
has
autism
and
transitioning
in
the
middle
of
the
day
would
be
rough
for
him,
but
other
kids
wouldn't
have
as
much
as
of
an
issue.
Other
children
might
be
like
I'm
riding
the
Yellow
School
bus.
So
you
kind
of
figure
out
what
works
for
the
area
that
you're
in
and
not
every
single
classroom
may
have
the
same
setup.
G
F
Necessary
funding
would
be
there
to
support
child
care
programs
to
sustain
and
I
can
tell
you
that
programs
that
partner
with
Head
Start
or
Early
Head
Start
right
now
I
was
the
Early
Head
Start
partnership
coordinator
for
Fayette
County,
when
when
I
worked
a
Community
Action
Council
and
the
programs
that
received
those
extra
funds,
you
know
they
had
supports
for
playground
equipment
they
might
not
have
had.
Otherwise
they
had
supports
for
Staffing
benefits
and
training
that
they
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
have.
Otherwise.
F
With
the
Head
Start
requirements,
children
started
getting
more
intricate
lesson
plans
where
they
had
individualized
goals.
That's
not
something
Child
Care
typically
does,
but
when
they
met
the
Head
Start
standards,
then
they
started
doing
those
developmental
assessments
and
looking
to
see
what's
the
next
goal
for
each
child
and
raising
the
quality
of
the
education
for
each
child
in
the
classroom
setting.
So
you
see
the
benefits
of
those
Partnerships
immediately,
but
you
have
to
figure
out
how
to
help
everybody
get
to
the
same
common
Baseline.
A
Yeah
and
Senator
Carroll
if
I
may
add
the
the
model
that
I
described
in
this
morning's
press
conference
is
only
one
model
and
there
are
multiple
different
methods
to
go
through
this,
and,
ultimately,
the
method
in
which
is
ultimately
decided
upon
will
need
to
be
decided
based
upon
local
community
communities
and
those
local
needs
I'm,
using
that
collaborative
process
from
West
Virginia
that
I
elaborated
on
a
little
earlier.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
very
clear
that,
just
for
clarity's
sake
this
morning,
that's
kind
of
a
a
simple
way
of
thinking
about
it.
A
E
I
can
I
add
for
Fayette
County
we're
talking
about
the
hiring
piece
when
we
hire
our
staff
for
those
classrooms
at
Family,
Care
Center
in
UK.
They
are
at
the
table
with
us
during
the
interview
to
see
like
who
would
be
a
good
fit
for
their
program,
as
they
know
their
full
program.
So
we
do
include
them
in
those
interviews
in
that
hiring
practice
and
I
also
want
to
say
I
know
there
was
some
conversation
about,
seek
funding
and
preschool
dollars.
Preschool
is
not
included
in
the
seek
funding.
D
Yeah
representative
reiman,
thank
you,
I
think
Universal
Pre-K
polls
really
well,
because
families
can't
understand
that
we
can't
understand
this
right.
Families
can't
understand
this.
They're
like
I,
want
a
place
close
to
my
house.
That's
affordable!
It's
high
quality
that'll,
take
care
of
my
kids
all
day
right
and
Universal.
Pre-K
and
I
use
this
language
to
mean
a
place.
That's
close
to
your
house,
that's
affordable!
That
provides
high
quality
care.
That
gets
your
kids
ready
for
kindergarten
right
and
it
can
look
a
lot
of
different
ways.
F
That
one's
over
my
pay
grade,
that's
totally
on
Department
of
head.
The.
The
idea,
though,
is
that
each
child
in
the
program
has
kind
of
a
cost
attached
to
them
for
a
year
of
care.
That
would
be
high
quality
and
I
use
seek
as
a
K-12
example,
but
whatever
the
the
cost
is.
That
would
be
high
quality
care
for
that
child
would
follow
them
and
you
have
to
determine
you
could
have
Universal
pre-K
in
the
state,
and
it's
still
only
be
three
hours
a
day.
F
I
mean
there
there's
all
kinds
of
different
ways
that
you
can
do
mixed
model
delivery
and
Universal
Pre-K.
It
doesn't
mean
that
it's
automatically
6
a.m,
to
6
p.m,
and
you
know
in
in
all
these
different
places
you
kind
of
have
to
figure
out
what
the
community
needs
by
needs
assessment,
how
many
families
need
it
and
and
what
their
needs?
F
What
is
overwhelming,
though,
is,
if
you
say
the
public
school
is
going
to
do
it
all.
How
many
new
buildings
would
the
public
school
have
to
buy?
How
much
money
would
go
to
that?
Just
so
that
you
would
have
space?
How
many
more
teachers
would
you
need?
I
mean
I
had
a
conversation
with
Dr
Stevenson
at
the
end
of
last
year,
where
she
was
desperately
trying
to
make
sure
that
she
had
the
staff
of
the
classrooms
that
she
have
has
now.
F
If
we
expand
it
to
every
four-year-old,
you
know
what
kind
of
teaching
staff
would
we
need,
but
there
are
already
teachers
out
there
doing
an
awesome
job
in
different
places.
Can't
can't
we
utilize
that
what
kind
of
Transportation
would
the
public
school
system
have
to
provide?
If
they
were
responsible
for
moving
all
these
children
around
all
day
long
and
and
that's
where
it's
a
burden
on
the
public
school
system
to
do
it
solely
on
the
public
school
system,
it's
also
a
burden
on
child
care
if
they
lose
all
their
three
and
four-year-olds
and
can't
financially.
D
When
I'm
talking
about
bringing
three
and
four-year-olds
potentially
in
to
seek
seek,
can
leave
the
public
school
system,
you
know,
you're
talking
about
funding
can
go
from
a
public
school
system
to
a
private
entity
and
that
the
seat
could
be
the
same
situation.
I'm
asking
Dr
Stevenson,
because
I
know
that
seek
provides
a
guaranteed
amount
versus
the
preschool
block
grant
where
you
get
a
varying
amount
every
year
and
can
that
affect
the
quality
that
a
child
is
receiving
each
year.
D
I
The
additional
environmental
and
facility
considerations
for
caring
for
children
that
young,
so
a
straight
seek
formula
would
need
to
be
tailored
with
the
additional
resources
required
to
care
for
children
of
that
age.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
mention
is
that
the
seek
formulas
are
given
to
schools
to
administer,
so
we'd
want
to
make
sure
that
all
the
resources
that
are
currently
completely
dedicated
to
our
preschool
students
continue
to
make
it
to
the
youngest
Learners
in
our
Public
School
settings,
and
we
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
preschool.
I
Even
in
public
school
settings
is
often
most
powerfully
delivered
in
a
center-based
setting,
rather
than
as
an
individual
classroom
in
a
K
through
8
or
K
through
5
school.
So
we
would
still
want
to
encourage
School
District
ability
to
have
early
care
and
education
centers
fully
dedicated
to
preschool.
The
other
is
the
way
average
daily
attendance
is
used
as
a
c
calculation.
D
D
The
possibility
of
a
dedicated
guaranteed
funding
amount
that
follows
a
child
which
is
a
popular
idea
in
some
other
Educational
Concepts
here
in
the
legislature.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
pay
Equity.
What
are
challenges
involved
when
a
child
spends
part
of
their
day
with
an
educator
who
makes
50
or
60
or
70
000
and
the
second
half
of
the
day
with
an
educator
who
ostensibly
has
the
same
job
and
it's
making
nine
or
ten
or
eleven
dollars
an
hour?
Is
there
a
morale
issue
there,
a
competition
issue?
E
So
for
the
history
of
Fayette
County
back
when
state
funded
was
started
in
Fayette
County,
the
teachers
teaching
in
the
public
school
program
were
not
paid
as
as
the
certified
teachers
K-12
and
they
have
started
teacher
certifications,
they've
gone
to
school,
and
so
from
that
lens.
That
became
a
concern
and
an
issue
for
I
mean
teachers
that
come
to
school.
They're
doing
the
same
thing.
They
have
the
same
responsibilities
so
for
the
school
system,
I
mean
these
are
certified.
E
What
they
can
pay
I
do
think
I
mean
we
we
hear
people
say
well,
you
make
a
lot
more
in
in
state
funded
and
then
the
answer
is
yes,
I
mean,
but
we
also
looked
through
the
lens,
because
there
have
Public
School
employee
that
has
a
teacher
certification
and
they're
just
like
K-12
teachers.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
lens
in
the
conversation
that
we
have
that
conversation
with.
E
F
Staffing
and
pay
Equity,
you
have
to
think
child
care
providers
typically
make
the
lowest
amount
and
then
Child,
Care
great
child
care.
Teachers
often
get
snatched
by
Head
Start
because
they
make
more
than
child
care
and
then
great
Head
Start
teachers
usually
get
snatched
by
public
school
preschool
because
they
make
the
highest
rate
and,
as
you
continue
your
education,
you
often
see
this
progression
where
they
move
from
Child
Care
to
Head
Start
to
public
school
preschool.
F
There
is
a
great
difference
in
equity
from
from
National
research
through
nausc,
we
see
average
public
school
preschool
teachers
around
the
50,
000
Mark
and
then
average
for
child
care
providers
in
Kentucky.
We
talked
about
this
morning
is
around
twenty
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
there
there's
a
great
feeling
of
disrespect
or
a
lack
of
appreciation
when
you
know
that
you
do
a
similar
job
and
you
make
less
than
half
of
that.
F
However,
we've
talked
a
great
deal
during
the
task
force
that
the
greatest
need
we
have
in
child
care
right
now
is
increase
in
Workforce,
Development
and
wages.
If
we
focus
a
lot
on
increasing
the
wage
to
some
type
of
wage
supplement,
find
a
way
to
attract
people
to
the
field
with
a
more
stable
wage
and
and
benefits,
then
we're
going
to
be
able
to
work
towards
decreasing
that
Gap
in
disparity
for
pay
between
the
two
entities
and
ultimately
the
partnership
is
going
to
be
stronger
when
the
pay
Equity
is
within
a
closer
proximity.
D
Long
as
it's
a
super
short
answer,
thanks
for
bringing
the
West
Virginia
example,
I
wish
we
could
have
heard
from
Janet.
So
this
presentation
was
about
how
it
works.
I
would
love
for
you
to
send
us
some
mind-blowing
statistics
on
how
implemented
the
program.
It
has
changed.
The
face
of
West
Virginia
undeniable
statistics
that
we
just
are
gonna
have
to
act
on
I.
D
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
our
next
presentation,
Child,
Care
opportunities
and
challenges
in
rural
communities.
If
they're
members
that
still
had
questions
I
invite
the
table
guests
to
stay
for
after
the
meeting,
but
if
Miss
Debbie,
link
and
Becky
Stacy
could
come
up
here.
D
And
I'm
going
to
apologize,
I've
got
to
leave
at
4
30,
which
was
kind
of
the
thought
of
the
30
minutes
each.
But
you
know
what
we've
had
some
really
great
conversations,
so
co-chair
Cara
will
take
over
I
have
to
get
back
to
my
district
for
an
event.
As
a
reminder,
we
are
here
to
serve
the
people.
The
districts
were
elected
to
so
it's
important
for
me
to
get
my
myself
back
to
the
18th
District.
D
C
Good
afternoon,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
about
the
landscape
of
family
child
care.
My
name
is
Debbie
link
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
Child
Care
Council
of
Kentucky,
the
Child
Care
Council,
is
a
resource
and
referral
agency
that
serves
the
Early
Childhood
community
in
Central
kentucky
we
offer
pro
professional
development,
technical
assistance
and
advocacy
to
child
care
programs,
businesses
and
Community
Partners
in
our
region.
C
C
There
are
four
types
of
child
care
in
Kentucky.
A
licensed
type
1
child
care
facility
is
a
facility
licensed
to
care
for
four
or
more
children
in
a
non-residential
setting
a
licensed
type
2
family
child
care
home
is
a
Child
Care
Program
in
the
home
of
a
primary
licensee
and
typically
cares
for
7
to
12
children,
including
those
related
to
the
licensee.
C
In
a
certified
family
child
care
home.
The
provider
cares
for
up
to
10
children,
including
those
related
to
the
provider.
In
his
her
own
home,
a
registered
family
child
care
provider
could
be
a
family
member,
a
friend,
a
neighbor
who
cares
for
up
to
three
children
in
the
provider's
home
or
in
the
home
of
the
child,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
type
2
and
certified
family
child
care
homes.
C
Estimates
from
the
early
2000s
note
that
Kentucky
had
a
record
amount
of
family
child
care
providers
with
over
1200
certified
and
type
2
homes.
Currently
we
have
241
certified
in
type
2
homes
and
163
potential
providers.
Since
January
1st,
the
family,
Child
Care
Network
have
37
3745
points
of
contact
with
these
potential
providers.
C
There
are
many
benefits
of
choosing
a
certified
or
type
2
family
child
care
home.
They
are
licensed
and
offer
quality
and
safe
learning
environments.
They
have
lower
teacher
child
ratios.
There
is
a
choice
of
curriculum.
They
can
choose
a
provider
that
meets
their
culture
background
and
values
they
can.
They
are
sustainable
in
rural
areas,
where
type
one
centers
may
not
be
siblings,
can
attend
together
and
benefit
from
mixed
age
group
learning.
C
C
C
Some
of
the
contributing
factors
to
the
decline
in
the
child
care
industry
include
the
increased
cost
of
meeting
the
minimum
requirements
for
certification.
The
increase
in
local
municipalities,
implementing
zoning
restrictions
on
home
businesses
and
the
decrease
in
funding
for
the
child
care
assistance
program.
Regulation
itself
is
not
the
challenge.
It's
support
for
implementation
and
consideration
of
the
unique
family
child
care
home
setting.
That
is.
C
National
survey
response
data
from
State
Licensing
agencies
reported
by
the
federal
office
of
child
care,
confirms
Kentucky's
downward
Trend,
showing
that
more
than
97
000
licensed
family
child
care
homes
in
the
United
States
closed
between
2005
and
2017.,
the
drop
in
the
number
of
family
child
care
providers
can
be
a
hardship
for
families,
especially
parents
who
work
non-traditional
hours,
live
in
rural
communities
have
infants
and
toddlers
or
they
don't
speak
English
as
their
primary
language.
Low-Income
families
and
vulnerable
populations
may
be
most
affected
by
the
lack
of
available
family
child
care.
C
Families
may
choose
family
child
care
because
it
better
fits
their
preference
for
care
in
a
home-like
setting
that
meets
their
cultures,
backgrounds
and
values.
Families
with
lower
incomes,
families
needing
care
for
infants
and
toddlers
and
families
who
are
Hispanic
or
African-American
are
more
likely
to
use
family
child
care
than
center-based
care.
C
As
our
colleagues
have
stated,
the
wages
of
Early
Childhood
providers
are
low.
This
child
care
industry
was
fragile
long
before
the
onset
of
the
pandemic,
due
to
low
wages,
staff
turnover
and
limited
investments
in
child
care,
centers
in
most
family
child
care
homes.
The
teacher
who
is
also
the
administrator
making
from
five
dollars
and
fifty
cents
an
hour
well
below
minimum
wage
to
22.10
an
hour
with
a
median
income
of
27
560.
C
The
child
care
assistance
program
provides
financial
assistance
to
at-risk
families
when
the
adults
are
full-time
students
or
work
a
minimum
of
20
hours
per
week.
Currently,
families
at
85
percent
of
the
state,
medium
in
income,
can
qualify
for
the
child
care
assistance
program
prior
to
the
pandemic.
Families
qualified
at
160
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level.
C
C
Currently,
the
CCAP
program
covers
the
cost
of
80
percent
of
the
child
care
programs
in
Kentucky.
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
CCAP
covered
the
full
cost
of
only
40
percent
of
the
child
care
programs,
with
the
increasing
cost
of
good
and
services
in
order
to
sustain
their
business,
they
have
had
to
raise
tuition
rates.
In
doing
this,
it
has
increased.
The
copay
amounts
that
parents
are
responsible
for
compounding
their
need
for
additional
income.
C
We
need
your
support,
we're
asking
that
you
help
us,
strengthen
the
family,
Child
Care
Network,
by
sustaining
funds
and
creating
additional
Investments
we're
asking
for
the
continuation
of
startup
funds.
There
have
been
18
family
child
care
homes
that
have
qualified
for
this
grant
to
date,
sustained
investment
in
CCAP
and
reimbursement
rates,
eligibility
and
transition
periods.
C
Currently,
the
CCAP
reimbursement
rate
is
based
on
a
market
rate
survey
in
each
County.
Again,
we
would
like
for
this
to
move
to
a
cost
study
to
determine
the
reimbursement
rate,
encourage
competitive
wages,
benefits
and
educational
opportunities
for
early
care
and
education
professionals
for
child
care
centers
to
pay
their
staff
a
livable
wage.
They
must
charge
families
a
rate
that
they
just
can't
afford.
C
We
need
Sinners
to
be
able
to
access
funds
that
would
offset
the
cost
and
enable
them
to
hire
and
retain
quality
staff.
This
affects
the
entire
Workforce
without
stable
child
care.
There
cannot
be
a
stable
Workforce
recommend,
studying
local
Planning
and
Zoning
restrictions
and
fees.
There
is
a
great
disparity
in
zoning
across
the
state
when
which
often
creates
a
barrier
barrier
for
open
a
family
child
care
home.
C
B
K
K
We
are
part
of
the
family
Child
Care
Network
that
was
recently
formed.
The
Appalachian
Early
Childhood
Network
covers
the
yellow
counties
that
you
see
on
the
map,
all
together,
that
is
46
counties
and
in
those
46
counties
we
have
42
family
child
care
homes
that
doesn't
include
child
care,
centers
or
Head
Start,
but
in
some
of
those
counties,
especially
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
we
have
no
child
care
to
speak
of
family
child
care,
Child,
Care
Centers.
The
only
option
parents
have
is
when
their
children
are
old
enough
to
start
Head,
Start
or
preschool.
K
Debbie
mentioned
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
parents
might
flock
toward
family
child
care
homes.
One
is
the
child.
Caregiver
ratio,
there's
a
very
low
child
turnover.
Many
families
that
start
their
child
in
a
family
child
care
home
as
an
infant
will
leave
that
child
in
that
in
that
home,
until
they
start
kindergarten.
K
Parents
want
something
that's
close
to
home
and
it's
quality
and
it's
all
day
and
a
family
child
care
home
can
provide
that
so
I
wanted
to,
as
I
said,
I'm
a
retired
kindergarten
teacher
and
a
Storyteller.
In
fact,
for
27
years,
I
was
a
storyteller,
a
mom,
a
dad,
a
grandma,
a
grandpa,
an
Entertainer,
a
dancer,
a
singer.
I
did
all
those
things,
and
so
the
past,
especially
the
past
month
and
a
half
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
K
One
of
the
things
we've
had
to
do
is
really
listen
to
to
our
our
families
and
what
they're
going
through
so
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
a
quote
from
one
of
our
parents
when
we
shared
a
family
child
care
home
on
our
Facebook
page,
she
said:
Marsha
is
the
best.
Both
my
children
loved
her.
They
learned
so
much
under
her
as
well
as
being
well
cared
for
and
loved,
and
she
had
two
children
who
started
as
infants
and
stayed
with
Marcia
Marcia
Bradley
in
Morehead
Kentucky
stayed
with
Marsha
until
they
started.
K
This
is
our
newest
family,
child
care
provider,
Katie
Downer
in
Somerset
Kentucky.
She
opened
just
a
few
months
ago.
She
has
20
years
of
experience
in
child
care.
She's
a
Vermont
transplant
always
wanted
to
own
her
own
business,
but
wasn't
sure
where
to
start
so
we
were
the
family
Child
Care
Network
was
able
to
support
her
in
that
venture
I
do
want
to
share
some
of
our
family
child
care
homes.
As
you
can
see
this,
this
is
Marcia
Bradley's
home,
but
it
looks
like
a
classroom.
K
K
This
is
our
Manchester
provider
and
this
family
actually
with
their
children
they
plant
and
harvest
and
clean
and
cook
and
eat
their
Foods
together
at
the
family
child
care
home.
In
fact,
if
you
look
in
the
back,
there
he's
using
Hydroponics
to
grow
some
of
his
vegetables,
so
we're
very
proud
of
that
provider.
K
This
is
a
provider
in
Northern
Kentucky,
who
is,
we
did
The
Very
Hungry
Caterpillar,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
story
and
afterwards
she
did
some
training
and
we
were
able
to
provide
her
with
a
little
caterpillar
for
her
for
children
for
outside
play
and
again
this
is
the
family
setting
of
sitting
down
and
saying
we
grew
this
food
we've
cleaned
this
food.
We
cooked
this
food
together
and
then
we
sit
down
and
ate
it
as
a
family
outdoor
play.
K
K
So
then,
I
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
what's
happening
in
Eastern
Kentucky
right
now.
This
is
a
quote
from
a
Facebook
conversation
that
I
saw.
This
was
a
parent
that
I
know
and
she
said
all
day
cares
are
booked
in
Hazard.
Just
my
luck,
I
swear,
I
can't
win
for
losing
and
she
has
a
probably
a
six
month
old
and
so
a
friend
of
hers
said
I've
been
trying
for
two
years
to
get
mine.
K
In
now,
Perry
County
has
about
seven
Child,
Care
Centers
and
two
family
child
care
homes
and
we're
still
having
this.
This
problem,
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about
some
of
the
barriers,
especially
in
our
area.
First
of
all,
CCAP
reimbursement
rates.
Some
counties
are
receiving
about
20
less
per
child
than
other
areas,
especially
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
economically,
lots
of
our
lots
of
people
in
Eastern
Kentucky
don't
have
the
capital
to
open
a
new
business
in
a
rural
community.
K
K
So
I
wanted
to
end
again:
I
said
that
I'm
a
Storyteller.
So
if
I
might
this
one
will
be
quick
because
we're
in
a
small
County
and
because
I
taught
for
so
many
years,
I
know,
basically
everybody
I
taught
basically
everybody
and
their
children,
and
so
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
after
the
flood,
a
friend
called
me.
She
doesn't
know
me
because
I
was
a
teacher
and
she
said
that
she
had
lost
her
husband
in
the
flood.
She
needed
child
care.
K
She
was
struggling
to
find
it
so
I
told
her
I
would
help
her,
even
though
I
already
knew
the
answer.
There
were
no
spots
available.
So
yesterday
she
called
me
back
and
she
said,
I've
had
to
put
in
my
two
weeks
notice
now
she's
an
RN.
She
was
working
at
one
of
our
local
schools.
She
has
a
nine
week
old
and
a
four-year-old
and
she's
having
to
leave
the
workforce
because
before
she
lost
her
husband,
they
kind
of
did
a
patchwork.
The
husband
helped
the
mom
helped
the
grandmother
helped.
K
Now
she
has
to
go
back
to
work
and
she
doesn't
have
that
that
backup
plan
I
guess
so
she
had
to
give
her
her
two
weeks
notice,
someone
who
said
she
had
worked
since
16
someone
who
had
worked
her
way
through
school,
who
had
become
an
RN,
is
leaving
the
workforce
because
she
just
doesn't
have
child
care
and
that's
not
even
looking
at
quality
and
those
things.
It's
just
looking
at.
There's
no
spots
right
now.
G
Thank
you
both
very
much
for
your
presentation.
I
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
recommendations
and
there's
going
to
come
a
point
that
that's
that's
going
to
be
where
we
are
and
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
those
recommendations
and
then
start
formatting
policy
to
make
those
things
happen
and
I
think
you
all
have
been
very
specific.
Are
there
other
policy
issues
League
statutory
issues
that
we
need
to
look
at
that
are,
and
an
example
is
the
zoning
ordinance.
G
C
G
So
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
and-
and
you
know
we
have
talked
quite
a
bit
about
the
support
to
to
help
not
just
the
in-home
providers
but
centers
to
have
support
to
walk
them
through
the
process
and
and
stay
with
them,
so
it's
not
so
overwhelming
for
them.
So
I
could
see
that
being
an
aspect
of
the
policy
that
we
formatted
and
I
know
support
is
there
now
but
to
expand
the
that,
and
you
know,
I
see,
that
being
is
a
large
component.
K
No,
probably
not
no,
but
that's
what
we've
been
able
to
offer
so
far,
just
through
grants
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
then
we
are
part
of
the
problem.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
is
that
they
don't
see
themselves
as
a
business
person,
so
we
really
really
have
to
say
you
know
these
are
the
things
we're
going
to
have
to
do
you're
a
caregiver.
We
already
know
that.
That's
what
you
want
to
do,
but
this.
If
this
is
going
to
be
your
career,
we
have
to
figure
out.
K
We
help
as
much
as
we
can
sure
what
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
offer
training
and
if
you
take
training
you
can
receive
Learning
Materials
in
that
way,
but
a
lot
of
them
spend
a
lot
out
of
their
pocket.
I
have
a
provider
who
says
she
goes
to.
You
know
the
Goodwill
every
weekend
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
they
are
providing
a
lot
of
their
materials
themselves.
The.
K
C
They
can
afford
they're
paying
it
again.
The
other
thing
you
know
we
were
kind
of
looking
into
outdoor
play.
You
know
if
we
could
have
funding
to
help
support
that.
You
know
whether
it's
fencing
or
something
like
that,
because
they
they
do
have
to
have
a
fence.
It
has
to
be
a
fenced
area,
so
things
like
that,
if
we
could
support
them
in
other
ways
and
Outdoor
Learning
is
so
important.
You
know
if
we
could
focus
on
more
than
just
fencing.
You
know
if
it
could
be
outdoor
play,
structures
or
anything.
That's
around
safety.
C
K
G
Having
that
conversation,
that's
pretty
exciting,
think
about
a
nursing
home
with
a
child
care
center
attached.
Think
about
all
the
advantages
to
that
for
our
seniors
and
for
our
kids.
So
so
things
like
that
and
as
we
would
work
to
develop
Eastern
Kentucky
in
these
rural
areas,
Child
Care
being
a
part
of
the
businesses
that
that
are
there.
G
So
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
outside
the
box
ways
to
address
it
and
we
can
solve
so
many
problems
by
by
focusing
on
those
areas
is
with
how
Medicaid
rates
without
poverty
rates
throughout
the
Commonwealth
and-
and
you
know,
as
a
result,
education
is
going
to
get
better.
People
are
going
to
want
to
move
back
to
these
areas.
So
I
see
a
lot
of
advantages
to
that.
Senator
Thomas.
H
Thank
you,
chairman,
Carol
and
representative
Raymond
really
took
my
question.
I
I
would
say
this
Miss
Stacy
I
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
eliminate
that
problem
of
barriers
to
entry.
We've
got
to
find
ways
to
finance
these
Child
Care
Homes,
so
they
can
exist
because
here's
what's
going
on
when
you
say
that,
but
when
you,
when
you
make
that
comment,
you're
saying
there
are
people
out
there
who
want
to
provide
daycare
for
individuals,
that's
what
you're
saying:
okay,
they
just
can't
do
it
because
they
don't
have
the
capital
to
do
so.
H
G
So
last
week,
I
kind
of
played
off
my
co-chairs
idea
and
I
had
a
we
had
a
round
table
at
home
with
some
of
our
providers
and
we
got
into
the
discussion
and
it
it
boils
down
to
what
what
are
these
providers?
What
are
they
making
and
and
what
is
a
fair
wage
for
a
child
care
facility
owner
an
in-home
provider?
G
I'm
hopeful
that
the
the
federal
government's
gonna
ante
up
some
long-term
support
and
and
I
think
the
state
is
also
willing
to
do
so.
We
see
the
importance
but,
as
I
I've
said
this
morning,
we've
really
got
to
think
outside
the
box
and
create
new
avenues
to
provide
these
services
to
to
support
all
the
things
that
we
need
to
support
and,
first
and
foremost,
that
we
didn't
talk
a
lot
about
this
morning.
G
H
C
I,
may
it's
a
little
care
providers
because
you
put
that
dollar
amount
on
there,
but
they
may
be
open
from
six
to
six.
They
may
be
open
from
six
to
eight
o'clock
or
on
the
weekends,
so
it
does
kind
of
it.
That's
a
challenge
for
them
to
really
come
up
to
be
able
to
articulate
what
it
would
cost.
You
know,
because
you
know
the
ones
that
say
550
an
hour.
They
may
be
open
for
you
know
60
hours
a
week
and
that's
what's
driving
that
number
so
low.
C
K
Think
so,
okay,
but
I
got
a
bit
of
my
in
my.
It
must
say:
wait
I'm
supposed
to
pay
myself
a
salary.
You
know
I,
don't
even
think
it's
just
it's
become
such
a
thing
of
hazardous
hesitate
to
say
I'm,
not
smarter
than
you
know.
If
you're
going
to
care
for
children,
you're
just
you're
not
going
to
make
any
money,
you
know
which
nobody's
trying
to
get
rich,
they
want
to
do
it
because
they
want
to
do
it,
but
they
don't
realize
this.
G
Do
you
do
you
feel
like
a
a
marketing
campaign
and
especially
in
the
eastern
part
of
the
state?
Would
that
help
if
to
to
let
people
know
hey?
This
is
out
there.
There's
help
to
be
had
to
set
this
up,
and
what
impact
do
you
think
that
would
be
and
and
Sarah?
If
you
got
any
follow-up
on
this,
please,
if
you
all
want
to
answer
first.
C
I
do
think
so.
We've
talked
the
Child
Care
Council,
we've
kind
of
thrown
that
around
I
think
a
marketing
campaign
in
itself,
not
only
more
on
the
impact
that
you
make
in
in
a
life.
You
know
across
their
whole
life.
You
know
you
really
start
building
that
foundation
and
to
recruit
people,
because
right
now,
our
industry's
so
depleted
with
workers.
You
know
we
need
new
people
in
in,
as
we
were
saying
it's
an
aging
issue.
C
Our
our
providers
are
aging
out,
you
know
they're
they're
getting
older
and
they're
retiring,
and
then
we
don't
have
the
new
people
to
replace
them
because
they
can
make
the
same
amount
of
money
at
a
fast
food
place.
So
we
need
to
really
change
that.
You
know
so
that
it
is
meaningful
work
and
they
are
getting
compensated
for
that.
F
We've
seen
other
states
that
have
done
more
extensive
marketing
to
enhance
family
child
care
homes
to
join
the
field.
This
past
year,
Kentucky
was
the
first
state
to
set
up
the
family,
Child
Care
Network,
but
Connecticut
was
the
second.
They
followed
right
behind
us
and
they
had
done
more
advanced
marketing
on
come
to
the
field
and
did
some
Statewide
pushes
there's
other
things
that
we've
seen
that
have
helped
enhance
so
Becky
talked
about?
F
They
don't
pay
themselves
a
wage,
and
some
of
that
is
business,
and
some
of
it
is
I
paid
all
my
bills,
I'm
going
to
take.
What's
left
over
wait
this
week
it
was
only
twenty
dollars,
but
there
are
several
States
who
have
specifically
set
up
subsidy
and
different
programs
to
say
this
is
the
wage
that
family
child
care
providers
should
start
off.
F
Attempting
to
make
setting
up
your
books
you're
going
to
pay
yourself
this
much
an
hour
and
when
they've
done
that
those
states
have
been
a
little
more
successful.
I
know
that
New
Mexico
Colorado,
some
of
the
states
in
that
area,
have
have
set
that
up
to
say
this
is
the
wage
family,
child
care
provider?
Should
make
and
then
they've
been
more
able
to
attract
providers
because
they
know
hey
I'm,
going
to
make
that
when
it's
over
because
beforehand,
when
you're
launching
into
this
new
business?
K
And
I
will
say
that
one
of
our
marketing
campaigns
right
now
is
we
have
partnered
with
our
local
Technical
Community
College,
to
go
into
their
classrooms
for
the
Early
Childhood
classes,
to
speak
to
them,
about
a
career
path
in
family
child
care
and
since
we're
opening
a
new
office
in
Moorhead
we're
looking
at
being
on
the
Moorhead
campus
and
saying
this
is
a
this
is
opportunity.
This
may
be
something
you
want
to
look
at.
F
Many
of
these
women
I
only
say
women,
because
we
have
no
men
doing
this
in
Kentucky,
but
these
women
have
been
doing
this
for
an
entire
career
and
they're
retiring,
but
many
of
the
new
child
care
providers
like
when
I
taught
at
Eastern
Kentucky
University
to
the
Early
Childhood
population.
They
didn't
really
know
this
was
an
option.
They'd
never
seen
anybody
do
it.
So
if
you
can
get
students
out
to
see
what
some
of
this
looks
like,
it
could
also
be
a
marketing
opportunity
for
the
career
field.
G
J
Now,
can
you
hear
me
you
can
hi
I'm
Amy
Neal
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
Kentucky
governor's
office
of
Early
Childhood,
so
I'll
just
make
a
couple
points.
First,
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
just
as
I
was
listening
today,
representative
Raymond
I,
you
weren't
trying
to
make
a
joke,
but
you
were
hilarious
when
you
said
the
language
right,
the
language
we
use,
it's
so
confusing.
So
if
it's
so
confusing
for
us
in
the
room,
how
confusing
is
it
for
families
and
parents
and
other
partners?
J
J
But
so
it's
interesting
because
today
we
talked
about
the
best
practice
of
mixed
delivery
and
it
is
a
best
practice
and
we
should
do
more
and
more
and
more
of
it
and
unfortunately,
I
had
to
miss
the
last
meeting,
but
Amy
Smith
presented
and
that's
exactly
what
she
talked
about
was
mixed
delivery,
but
that's
not
what
she
called
it.
She
called
it
I,
don't
know,
I
think
she
called
it
blending
and
braiding
funding
or
something
I.
Don't
know.
J
Ben
did
a
great
job
today.
He
also
called
it
public
private
funding
right.
So
you
know
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
there's
great
stuff
going
on
here
in
Kentucky,
and
we
heard
that
today
and
so
I
would
just
encourage
us
also
to
really
do
that
landscape
analysis
of
and
we
heard
from
Fayette
County
phenomenal
work,
who's
doing
the
work
really
well,
and
how
might
we
lift
that
up
and
do
more
of
it
and
stop
doing
what's
not
working
and
then
to
Dr
vandover's
Point?
Who
is
such
an
expert
in
everything?
J
Early
childhood?
You
know
she
talked
about
pulling
down
all
of
those
dollars
which
are
critical,
federal
state,
local
philanthropic,
because
the
only
way
we're
going
to
do
this
right
is
collectively
and
Rowing
in
the
same
direction.
So
I
just
thank
you
all
for
your
leadership
and
just
to
sort
of
recognize
how
complex
all
of
this
work
is
and
to
recognize
all
the
experts
that
are
in
this
room,
obviously,
but
so
much
great
work
going
on
in
the
Commonwealth.
So
thank
you.
G
Great
meeting
today
I
wish
we
could
stay
two
more
hours
but
I'm
not
going
to
push
my
luck
on
that
I
would
ask
Ben
Sarah
Jennifer
if
y'all
could
hang
around
I
want
to
talk
some
more
about
this.
This
mix
model
and
make
sure
I
understand
this
completely
before
we
leave
I.
Think
it's
a
very
important
tool
and
in
closing
I
want
to
just
follow
up
a
little
bit
on
what
co-chair
said
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
G
We're
going
to
move
forward,
we're
going
to
follow
the
course
and
we're
going
to
focus
on
what
we
need
to
be
doing
and
all
the
providers
that
that
are
out
there
that
have
input
after
seeing
any
of
the
meetings
that
you
feel
like
is
is
important
to
what
we're
talking
about.
Please
make
sure
we
get
that
information,
so
we
can
consider
it.
This
has
got
to
be
a
partnership.
We've
got
to
have
everybody
on
board
to
solve
this
problem.
We
don't
have
time
to
be
bickering
amongst
each
other.
G
We've
got
to
move
forward,
so
enough
said
and
I'm
not
going
to
bring
that
up
again,
but
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
for
the
testimony.
Our
next
meeting
is
October
the
20th
at
3,
P.M
and
I
hope
you
all
can
make
it
and
again
anyone
out
there
watching.
If
you
have
any
comments
about
today's
meeting
and
input,
please
make
sure
that
we
get
that
and
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.