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A
A
All
right
saying
we
have
a
quorum.
I
would
like
to
invite
our
speakers
up
to
the
table.
We
have
with
us
today:
Becky
gilpatrick,
the
director
of
student
aid
services
with
Kia
and
Diana
Barber,
the
interim
CEO
and
CEO
of
Kia
Welcome
to
our
committee.
Please
make
sure
your
mics
are
turned
on
and
please
introduce
yourself.
E
Ready,
okay.
Well.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
this
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
about
this
critically
important
mission
of
providing
access
and
affordability
and
success
for
students
and
families
of
Kentucky
to
achieve
their
post-secondary
Pathways,
be
it
four-year
college
or
Career
and
Technical
education.
E
We
do
a
lot
at
Kia
to
promote
access
and
success,
starting
with
our
529
savings
plan
that
we've
been
administering
for
over
four
decades,
as
well
as
we
have
Outreach
counselors
who
go
out
in
the
field
and
help
students
determine
how
to
go
to
college
and
what
they
should
study
for
their
post-secondary.
Success
and
I
have
some
of
my
esteemed
colleagues
with
me
here
today
from
Kia
who
are
who
do
all
of
these
things
for
Kia.
E
F
First
I
wanted
to
start
off
by
just
looking
at
a
general,
some
general
information
about
how
financial
aid
works,
and
so
just
to
let
you
know
that
the
state
aid
programs
that
we
have
the
grants
and
scholarships
they
work
alongside
the
federal
student
aid
and
the
institutional
Aid
and
it's
all
stacked
on
top
of
each
other.
So
what
you're
looking
at
with
this
slide
is
just
some
examples
of
how
that
might
work
at
the
different
sectors.
So
we
have
you
know
the
kctcs.
F
What
a
representative
financial
aid
package
might
look
like
what
it
might
look
like
at
one
of
our
four-year
universities
and
one
of
the
private
colleges
that
are
four
years
and
so
we've
just
kind
of
sectioned
off
pieces
of
this,
and
this
is
starts
with
a
family
that
has
an
expected
family
contribution
of
2093
dollars,
and
so
that
is
that
blue
line
at
the
bottom
and
their
their
portion
of
the
Pell
grain
is
a
partial
portion.
It's
not
full.
F
F
You
have
a
little
yellow
section
there
that
has
the
Kentucky
tuition
Grant,
we'll
talk
more
about
all
the
state
aid
and
then
the
key
scholarship
that
fifteen
hundred
dollars
is
just
an
average
award
amount
we
threw
in
for
the
example,
and
then
we
just
did
you
know
some
rough
estimates
on
what
institutional
Aid
might
look
like.
Not
all
the
institutions
do
that
and
it's
a
varying
amount
that
comes
out
of
their
pockets,
and
then
we
averaged
in
some
federal
student
loans
to
kind
of
show
that
you
can
get
to
the
full
cost
of
attendance
at.
F
F
F
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it,
but
if
you're
not
already
familiar
with
it,
the
way
Keys
is
earned
is
incentive
based
students,
it's
based
on
the
GPA
that
the
students
earn
each
year,
they're
in
high
school
and
that's
their
annual
GPA,
and
then
we
give
them
an
award
for
9th
10th,
11th
and
third
12th
grade
year
and
for
a
2.5
GPA
that
can
earn
125
dollars,
and
then
it
ranges
up
to
if
they
have
a
4.0,
GPA
or
higher.
They
have
500.
F
So
if
you're,
quick
at
math
four
years
of
4.0
GPA
would
get
you
two
thousand
dollars
worth
of
keys,
and
then
we
have
some
bonus
Awards,
there's
an
act
bonus
it's
based
on
the
highest
ACT
score
that
they
attain
prior
to
high
school
graduation.
So
if
they
score
28
or
better
on
their
act,
that's
another
500
that
gives
us
2500
on
that
award
if
they're
lower
than
that
it
tears
down
to
a
score
of
15
and
that's
30
six
dollars
for
our
low-income
students.
F
There
are
some
renewal
requirements
once
they
get
to
college,
so
they
have
to
have
at
least
a
2.5
GPA
and
be
making
progress
toward
graduation
and
that's
as
their
school
determines
that
progress
being
on
track
to
graduate,
but
as
long
as
they
can
do
that,
they'll
renew
that
same
amount.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
had
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
of
keys
at
the
end
of
high
school
and
they
renewed
that
all
four
years
of
college,
that
would
be
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
scholarship
right
there
for
their
keys.
F
We
do
also
have
on
this
last
piece
of
it
about
registered
Apprentice
apprentices
and
Workforce
trainees.
There
was
some
Provisions
made
and
we'll
talk
about
legislative
history
here
in
a
moment
where
folks,
who
are
not
going
to
college
directly
but
they're,
going
more
into
careers,
can
request
reimbursement
from
their
keys
accounts
for
their
training
expenses
for
those
programs.
F
F
2008
was
probably
where
we
had
the
largest
change
as
far
as
increasing
expenditures
and
during
that
session,
that's
when
the
supplemental
awards
for
the
low-income
students
was
put
into
place,
but
it
was
also
where
this
on
track
to
graduate
requirement
was
put
into
place
and
at
that
point
prior
to
that,
students
had
to
have
a
3.0
cumulative
GPA
to
keep
the
full
award
amount
in
that
on
track
to
graduate
the
way
that
works.
It
kind
of
lets
them
come
back
to
a
2-5
GPA
and
we
look
at
the
college
gpas
or
the
I'm.
F
Sorry,
the
cumulative
gpas
each
spring
semester
once
they
get
to
college,
to
determine
the
renewal
in
2013.
We
did
have
some
awards
for
students
in
comprehensive
transition
and
post-secondary
programs.
Those
are
students
who
have
intellectual
disabilities.
There
are
only
a
handful
of
colleges
in
the
state
that
even
offer
those
programs
and
they're
very
small
Awards,
so
students
who
qualify
for
that
they
get
a
Keys
Award,
that's
a
few
hundred
dollars
that
they
can.
They
can
have
every
year.
We
don't
look
at
renewal
requirements
for
them.
F
F
2018
is
where
we
had
registered
apprenticeships
start
to
come
into
the
program
and
that's
where
they
could
request
that
reimbursement
for
their
training
expenses
as
part
of
their
apprenticeship
program
and
in
2019
that
was
expanded
to
certain
qualified
Workforce
trainees
and
during
this
last
session,
that
piece
was
expanded
again
to
students
who
are
in
kctcs
Workforce
Solutions
students
who
are
attending
the
Kentucky
College
of
Art
and
Design
and
to
students
at
certain
proprietary
schools.
So
we're
working
out
the
logistics
on
that
working
on
implementation.
For
that
right
now,.
F
F
Okay,
this
is
just
shows
the
last
few
years
of
disbursement
activity
and
we've
kind
of
through
all
the
programs
I've.
Given
you
the
same
information
for
all
of
them,
you
will
notice
I've
got
this
current
year
listed
at
the
very
bottom,
with
an
asterisk,
it's
not
a
full
year,
yet
it
won't
be
a
complete
year
until
the
end
of
this
month,
but
this
is
what
things
look
like
at
the
end
of
May
for
us,
so
they're
very
close
there'll
still
be
a
little
jiggling
going
around.
F
But,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
number
of
recipients
has
decreased
over
the
last
few
years
with
keys.
Some
of
that
was
coveted,
and
some
of
it
is
just
simply
that
the
population
size
is
getting
smaller,
we're
having
fewer
and
fewer
graduating
seniors
show
up
in
the
population.
That's
reported
from
the
high
schools,
and
so
that's
that's
exactly
why
the
numbers
are
coming:
trending
downward
for
keys
right
now,
okay,
we're
good
I'll
move
on
to
talk
about
our
state,
Grant
programs.
F
This
I
think
is
where
we're
probably
making
the
largest
change
or
should
say
the
largest
impact
on
trying
to
eliminate
student
loan
needs
for
our
low-income
families.
We
have
two
different
state:
Grant
programs,
one's
the
college
Access
program
and
that's
our
primary
program.
It's
for
the
neediest,
financially
neediest
students,
all
of
these
students
to
qualify
for
the
Pell
Grant
cap,
Grant
they're
pill
eligible,
and
they
have
to
complete
a
FAFSA
form
to
do
this.
So
these
peop.
F
F
So
for
this
year
that's
thirty
two
hundred
dollars
for
next
year
to
be
thirty
three
hundred
dollars.
We
do
require
students
to
be
enrolled
full-time
to
receive
these.
These
particular
ktg
funds-
and
we
do
this
on
a
first-
come
first
serve
basis
in
the
years
past,
first
come
first
serve
always
led
to
us
running
out
of
money
early,
but
we
have
been
very
fortunate.
F
The
last
few
years
and
we've
had
excess
Lottery
transfers
and
we'll
show
you
that
in
a
moment-
and
that
is
helping
us-
extend
the
longevity
of
this
out,
so
we
can
actually
continue
to
award
cap
and
ktg
into
the
full
school
year
and
for
the
majority
of
the
year,
so
we
can
have
students
really
all
the
all.
The
way
around
found
continue
to
receive
these
funds,
even
if
they
apply
late
once
the
school
year
begins.
F
This
has
so
much
to
do
with
population
size,
but
it
also
has
to
do
a
lot
with
covid
you'll,
see
2020
at
the
end
of
that
year,
that
was
March
2020
when
all
the
pandemic
began,
and
so
we
had
a
strong
dip
in
enrollment
at
that
point
and
we
are
trying
to
rebound
from
that,
and
so
that
kind
of
explains
that
now
also
say
on
this
you'll
see
the
dollars
going
up
recently
and
that's
because
of
a
new
award
structure
that
we've
implemented.
So
with
the
cap
Grant,
we
we
had
an
award.
F
You
know
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
screen,
that
our
awards
were
sitting
at
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
at
the
two
years
5300
at
the
four
years.
You
know
we
just
started
a
tiered
award
system
a
few
years
ago,
prior
to
that
it
was
one
award
for
everybody
and
we
held
that
at
one
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars,
and
that
was
that
way
for
13
years
from
2007.
You
know
up
into
the
late
teens
and
so
now.
Fortunately,
we've
had
enough
money
where
we
have
been
able
to
increase
the
award
amount.
F
F
F
And
these
are
the
excess
Lottery
transfers
that
I
was
talking
about
earlier.
2017
is
when
we
started
to
receive
those
excess
transfers
for
the
cap
and
ktg
programs,
and
so
what
I
have
given
you
here
is
the
amount
of
the
transfer
each
year.
How
much
we
divided
between
cap
and
ktg
and
kind
of
what
the
the
recipient
counts
would
be
based
on
the
average
awards
for
those
years.
So
there
is
another
three
million
dollar
transfer
that
was
put
in
the
budget
that
will
come
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
the
end
of
next
year.
F
F
F
F
The
green
bar
is
what
our
maximum
cap
grants
are
and
then,
of
course,
you
can
see
the
difference.
So
we
are
currently
in
a
very
fortunate
position
where
we
can
cover
tuition
and
fees
with
Pell
and
cap
combined
for
our
two-year
and
our
four-year
Regional
colleges
and
we're
very
close
to
being
able
to
do
that
at
University
of
Kentucky
and
University
of
Louisville.
F
So
keep
in
mind,
though,
that
not
everyone
qualifies
for
a
full
Pell
Grant,
but
if
you're
eligible
for
just
one
dollar
a
Pell
Grant,
you
can
get
a
full
cap
Grant,
so
that
is
varying,
but
this
just
kind
of
sets
it
up
to
say
this
is
possible
for
the
neediest
students
that
that
tuition
is
covered.
I
should
also
mention
here
because
it
looks
like
you
know:
there's
some
excess
going
on
here.
F
So
that
includes
the
room
and
board
the
books.
Financial
aid
offices
will
package
they'll,
have
an
allowance
for
living
expenses
and
things
for
the
students.
So
it's
tuition,
those
direct
tuition
costs
plus
those
indirect
costs
that
make
up
the
full
cost
of
attendance.
So
that
money
is
not
a
check.
That's
going
back
to
the
student.
It's
it
really
is
money.
That's
helping
them
pay
that
full
cost
of
attendance.
F
F
That's
coming
up.
The
U.S
Department
of
Education
has
given
us
some
of
the
information
on
this.
They
haven't
told
us
exactly
everything,
that's
going
to
happen,
even
though
that
form
is
rolling
out
at
the
end
of
this
year.
So
what
we
would
normally
have
is
a
FAFSA
that
starts
in
October,
but
because
of
this
new
form
being
implemented,
the
department
is
saying
now
maybe
December
they're
looking
at
December.
F
We
won't
be
surprised
if
it
ends
up
being
January,
but
we're
planning
on
December,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
going
on
around
that
the
things
that
will
impact
the
grant
programs,
though,
is
that
the
expected
family
contribution
is
going
away.
It
is
now
turning
into
a
student
aid
index
and
with
that
comes
a
new
federal
methodology.
Some
of
the
questions
on
the
FAFSA
are
being
replaced
they're
getting
some
new
questions
in
there,
but
they
are
going
to
link
directly
with
the
IRS
as
part
of
the
process.
F
We
have
Kia
has
partnered
with
shio
the
State
Higher
Education
executive
officers
organization,
we've
been
doing
some
modeling
with
them,
and
we
used
all
of
our
FAFSA
data
from
this
current
2223
year
and
let
them
run
it
against
their
tool.
That
does
an
estimate
of
the
new
methodology
to
see
how
that
would
come
out,
and
so
what
we
have
here
is
what
I've
put
on
the
screen
for
you.
F
It
showed
that
if
we
had
had
that
in
place
for
this
past
year,
we
would
have
had
15
500
additional
students
that
would
have
been
eligible
for
Pell
and
for
cap
Grant
and
using
an
average
cap
Gran
amount
for
this
year.
That
would
have
totaled
almost
50
million
dollars
extra
that
we
would
have
needed
to
keep
the
cap
grant
program
funded
for
as
long
as
we
did.
F
Now
the
other
flip
side
of
that
is
that,
because
more
students
will
qualify
for
the
cap
Grant,
it
will
actually
help
funding
for
the
work
ready
program
go
a
little
further
and
I'll
get
more
into
the
Weeds
about
work
ready
in
a
minute,
but
work
ready
is
not
a
need-based
program.
So
if
you
qualify
for
other
Aid,
then
that
eliminates
your
need
for
work
ready.
So
we
should
be
able
to
extend
the
applicant
pool
on
the
work
ready
program
when
all
this
takes
place.
F
This
was
the
the
last
piece
that
I
had
on
the
impact
slide
and
I'm
sorry.
This
looks
like
a
little
bit
of
a
mess
but
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
it
here.
What
we
have
here
is
the
last
several
years
of
what
our
undergraduate
first
time,
FAFSA
filers
have
looked
like
in
Kentucky
and
keep
in
mind.
These
are
the
first
time
filers,
so
they're
new
students.
This
is
trending
upward.
You
can
see
there
at
the
very
top
you've
kind
of
got
a
gold,
a
thin
gold
and
blue
bar
that
are
almost
together.
F
That's
17,
18
and
18
19,
and
then
you
kind
of
come
down.
1920.,
if
you
look
at
the
thick
bars,
though,
that
really
thick
blue
bar
that's
the
current
year
and
what
you
see
there
is
it
is
surpassing
what
we
had
in
2122
and
it
has
now
surpassed
where
we
were
in
2021.
So
that's
coming
back
up
the
Red
Bar,
the
thick
red
bar
there,
that
is
for
next
year
and
we've
been
collecting
those
fafsas
and
that
data
since
last
October,
and
so
that
is
trending
up
even
higher
than
the
current
year.
F
A
H
Yes,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
have
a
question
so
there's.
Basically,
three
progress.
We've
been
talking
about
so
far
the
keys
program,
the
cap
program
and
the
ktg
program,
and
what
one
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
I
represent
and
I'm
aware
of
a
lot
of
middle
income,
families
middle,
maybe
to
slightly
more
than
middle
class
families.
H
What
do
we
have
for
these
families
that
have
children
who
are
working
I
mean
in
school?
Getting
4.0
averages.
It
seems
like
what
I'm
hearing
is.
A
lot
of
these
students
are
not
really
receiving
any
Aid
so
of
these
programs
that
we're
talking
about
so
far.
What
is
are
here
for
a
middle
to
slightly
upper
class
family.
F
Those
families
would
all
qualify
for
keys
if
they
had
students
in
Kentucky
high
school.
So
that's
that's
would
be
their
Aid.
We
could
count
on
if
they
were
attending
a
private
college.
They
could
also
receive
Kentucky
tuition
grants.
So
the
need
calculation
for
the
ktg
program
works
slightly
different
than
it
does
for
the
cap
grant
program.
But
it
does
do
some
allowance
because
the
schools
can
compare.
You
know
what
their
cost
is
to.
What
that
EFC
amount
is
to
to
give
some
remaining
need
for
ktg.
H
F
All
right,
thank
you
all
right,
we'll
go
into
the
work
ready
scholarship
next,
as
this
is
a
program
that
is
growing
in
Leaps
and
Bounds
with
popularity
over
the
last
few
years,
and
it's
still
a
relatively
young
program
as
well.
This
particular
scholarship
provides
assistance
for
students
who
are
seeking
an
industry,
recognized
certificate
diploma
or
associate
of
applied
science
degree
and
a
designated
high
demand,
Workforce
area,
and
so
what
you
have
here
is
the
five
main
areas
that
we
have
for
this.
F
It
is
based
on
the
in-state
tuition
rate
at
kctcs
and
the
award
is,
is
the
number
of
hours
the
students
enrolled
at
that
kctcs
tuition
rate
minus
their
federal
and
state
eight,
and
so
for
us,
we
look
at
how
much
Pell
they
receive
their
cap,
their
ktg
and
their
keys,
those
things.
So
if
the
students
who
the
applicants
for
work
ready
receive
any
of
those
other
forms
of
Aid
and
that
amount
exceeds
what
they
would
have
in
their
tuition
rates,
then
they
have
work
ready
that
will
go
in
and
cover
that
tuition.
F
F
F
F
F
All
right,
I
will
also
add
here
that
the
work
ready
scholarship
statutorily
allows
for
Kia
to
award
funds
for
the
fall
semester
spring
and
summer.
However,
funding
has
only
supported,
fall
and
spring
since
the
program
began.
We've
never
had
a
summer
term,
so
we're
not
sure
what
that
would
actually
add
on
to
the
program
if
it
was
funded
all
the
way
through
summer.
F
This
past
year,
this
past
spring,
we
actually
Kia
cut
the
awards
off
early
as
well
for
work
ready
just
because
there
was
so
much
demand
for
the
program
we
exhausted
funding
and
that
also
included
some
transfers.
We
transferred
three
million
dollars
from
the
Dual
credit
program
over
into
work
ready
on
top
of
the
base
of
for
work
ready
just
so
we
could
fund
all
the
commitments
we
had
into
January.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
students
who
had
applied
coming
into
the
spring
semester
at
least
had
a
chance
to
get
some
money.
F
D
Okay,
thank
you,
chairman
on
the
work,
ready,
I'm
kind
of
going
live.
What
the
senator
said
to
we've
got
a
middle
class,
that's
not
being
sometimes
being
left
out,
but
in
addition,
what
about
those
who
are
retraining
well
work,
ready
cover
that
cost
and
it's
with
the
kctcs
only
so
if
they
went
to
a
regional
University,
it
doesn't
cover
it.
It
goes
only
to
kctcs.
Well,.
F
D
D
F
Okay,
but
so,
if
you're
looking
at
somewhere,
like
you
know,
EKU,
for
example,
you
know
they're
kind
of
the
middle
ground,
they're
I
think
their
tuition
runs
about
eight
thousand
dollars.
You
know
this
past
year
somewhere
in
that
ballpark.
So
you
know
they
would
have.
You
know
about
three
thousand
three.
Four
thousand
dollars
left
over
that
work
ready
would
not
cover
so,
but
they
could.
You
know
possibly
have
student
loans,
something
like
that.
That
would
cover
it.
So.
G
F
You're,
making
perfect
sense,
there's
not
really
redundancy,
because
the
way
the
keys
reimbursement
piece
works,
it's
not
tied
to
the
high
demand
work
sectors.
It
really
looks
at
the
students
who
are
in
registered
apprenticeship
programs.
This
last
change
in
that
came
in
this
last
session.
There
is
some
tie
to
the
high
five
work
sectors
in
that,
but
that's
for
allowing
those
small
proprietary
schools
in
and
that's
that
would
be,
the
schools
that
are
not
able
to
participate
in
like
on
the
traditional
College
pathway
side.
So
that's
not
your
Sullivan
University,
for
example.
F
F
So
again,
if
that
was
say,
a
middle
income
family
who
did
not
qualify
for
any
of
the
need-based
aid,
they
might
be
able
to
use
their
keys
to
do
the
reimbursement
there
and
get
their
keys
money
and
they
could
have
their
work
ready
if,
for
some
reason
they
weren't
in
a
qualifying
area
for
Keys,
then
the
work
ready
would
cover
that
full
amount
for
them.
Okay,.
G
And
and
I
see
what
I
see
what
you
all
are
doing
and
I
see
what
this
program
does
I
mean
you've
got
a
you've,
got
a
finite
amount
of
resources
that
you're
we're
trying
to
allocate
to
to
the
greatest
need,
and
and
and
I'm
almost
hesitant
to
even
bring
this
next
suggestion
up,
but
even
wading
into
the
fields
where
there's
the
highest
demand
or
the
highest
need
for
employees
versus
not
giving
aid
for
butterfly
farmers.
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
are?
G
F
Top
five
areas
that
are
designated
for
the
program,
the
way
the
statute
lays
that
out.
It
says
that
that's
the
top
five
is
designated
by
the
Kentucky
Workforce
Innovation
board.
So
I
can
tell
you
actually
I'll
go
to
this
next
slide,
because
it
was
coming
up
anyway,
those
five
areas,
the
what
we
have
right
now
and
what
we've
had
since
2018,
because
they
haven't
changed
that
came
from
a
study
that
was
done
by
a
third
party
entity
in
2011..
F
F
F
Right,
thank
you.
I'll
also
add
there.
If
you
as
you
can
see,
we
currently
have
2
800
programs
of
study
that
are
approved
and
on
the
list
between
all
of
our
participating
colleges.
I've
already
mentioned
that
we
have
not
had
funding
for
summer
term
Awards,
so
I'm
laying
all
this
on
the
table.
So,
as
you
all
think
about
the
lottery
funds
and
how
to
apply
those.
These
are
the
things
that
impact
work
ready.
F
F
2022
the
base
general
fund
appropriation
for
work
ready
was
7.8
million
dollars
for
this
current
budget
cycle
for
23
and
24
the
base
Appropriations
10.8,
which
is
the
three
million
dollar
increase,
and
as
I
mentioned,
we
transferred
three
million
from
the
Dual
credit
fund
into
work
ready.
So
that's
actually
an
additional
six
million
dollars
and
we
are
spent
almost
spending
all
of
that
this
year.
F
Thank
you.
So
work
ready
is
just
out
of
money
all
right.
Our
dual
credit
scholarship
is
another
relatively
young
program
that
is
gaining
a
lot
of
momentum.
This
is
for
high
school
students
in
grades
11
and
12,
who
are
taking
dual
credit
while
they're
in
high
school.
This
will
go
to
students
at
the
public
schools,
the
private,
high
schools
and
The
Homeschool
students.
They
have
to
admit
their
post-secondary
admissions
requirements
to
be
allowed
into
the
Dual
credit
coursework.
F
The
institutions
that
participate
in
most
of
our
particip,
our
institutions
in
Kentucky,
do
participate
in
this.
They
have
to
agree
to
do
this
at
a
discounted
rate,
and
so
what
that
rate
is
for
the
current
year
is
91
dollars
per
credit
hour.
So
that
is
a
substantial
savings
for
those
families.
The
scholarship
will
cover
two
of
the
general
education
courses.
F
F
There
have
been
changes
to
the
program
that
have
come
through
the
budget
language
for
the
last
couple
of
budget
cycles,
and
so
where
we
are
right
now
is
with
that
91
dollars
per
credit
hour.
That's
per
the
budget
language
with
which
set
the
maximum
rate
to
50
percent
of
the
kctcs
in-state
hourly
tuition
rate.
The
statutory
rate
is
actually
33
percent.
It's
one!
Third
of
that.
Kctcs
rate,
so
we've
got
a
bump
there
because
of
the
budget
change
the
the
current
budget.
F
Language
also
expanded
the
scholarship
so
that
it
will
cover
four
general
education
courses
for
a
maximum
of
12
classes,
counting
the
the
Career
and
Technical
education,
dual
credit
which
we'll
talk
about
here
in
just
a
moment.
So
Kia
has
divvied.
That
up
is
two
for
the
junior
year
two
for
the
senior
year
for
those
General
Edge
courses,
work-ready,
dual
credits,
the
other
component-
and
this
is
where
the
Career
and
Technical
education
comes
into
play.
The
work
ready
dual
credit
will
pay
for
two
classes
each
year
for
9th
through
12th
grade.
So
that's
your
eight
classes.
F
There,
plus
your
four
gen
EDS
that
gets
to
that
12.,
but
the
courses
that
it
will
pay
for
are
limited
to
those
that
are
approved
through
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
as
being
part
of
a
Career
and
Technical
education
pathway,
and
so
those
pathways
are
great
opportunities
for
the
high
school
students
to
explore
career
interests.
There's
Pathways
that
will
let
them
do
construction.
It
will
let
them
do
explore.
F
Health
Care
I.T,
there's
all
kinds
of
things:
criminal,
justice,
police,
work,
teaching
and
learning
is
a
big
pathway,
that's
growing
to
try
to
get
more
students
interested
in
becoming
teachers
and
so
dual
credit
classes
that
are
associated
with
those
Pathways.
The
work
ready
scholarship
covers
two
per
year
for
those
students,
so
it
is
very
possible
for
students
to
now
I'll
finish
high
school
with
associate
degrees
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that
increase
because
of
the
Dual
credit
activity.
F
The
students
can
take
additional
classes
and
pay
for
it
out
of
pocket
additional
beyond
the
scholarship
limits,
and
so
and
many
of
them
do
the
institutions.
It
works
exactly
the
same
as
the
regular
dual
credit
program.
As
far
as
the
way
the
institutions
have
the
limitation
on
the
fees
and
their
hourly
tuition
charges.
F
I
put
this
slide
together.
Just
to
give
you
a
very
simple
view
of
this,
this
is
actually
the
part
of
a
handout
we
use
for
the
high
school
students.
It
makes
it
very
quick
and
easy
for
students
and
families
to
understand
it,
because
it
can
be
very
complicated
for
everybody
to
understand
this
scholarship.
Does
this
and
this
scholarship
does
that
and
here's
the
number
you
can
get
for
which
grade
level
you're
in
and
so
this
just
kind
of
lays
all
of
that
out.
There.
F
F
We
there
was
an
executive
order
that
came
about
in
2016,
but
we
actually
started
to
fund
Work
Ready
in
2018
to
provide
scholarships.
The
Dual
credit
started
in
2017.
and,
as
I've
mentioned,
the
last
couple
of
sessions
we've
had
changes
that
have
come
through
or
the
budget
I
should
say
the
budget
sessions.
There
have
been
changes
made
to
the
programs
through
the
budget
language.
We
have
had
several
bills
over
the
last
four
sessions
that
would
have
merged
the
two
dual
credit
programs
with
each
other
and
taken
the
work
ready.
F
Dual
credit
actually
out
of
the
regular
Work
Ready
scholarship
statute,
because
that's
where
it's
buried
right
now
is
over
with
the
regular
Work
Ready
program.
But
it
would
have
combined
everything
with
dual
credit
and
if
we're
successful
in
doing
that
in
the
future,
then
that
would
help
us
be
able
to
simplify
the
processes
and
make
things
better
for
the
students
and
the
families
all
the
way
around.
So
we
can
run
this
program
better.
F
This
is
a
look
at
dual
credit
disbursement
activity
for
both
programs
and,
as
you
can
see,
they
have
grown
steadily
each
year
since
they
began
this
year,
the
2023
year.
That
is
the
first
year
that
has
that
expansion
to
the
two
additional
general
education
courses
for
the
Dual
credit
scholarship,
and
so
what
you
have
there
for
dual
credit
scholarship
that
25
840
students
who
have
taken
classes
this
year.
F
Those
are
just
general
education
classes
and
then
the
work
ready
students
who
are
taking
those
Career
and
Technical
education
classes
that
bumped
up
another
4
000
students
as
well.
So
this
is
not
the
course
count.
This
is
just
the
student
count
and
you
can
count.
You
know
probably
two
classes
for
most
of
those
students
and
most
of
those
classes
are
about
three
hours
a
piece.
D
Mccool
just
quickly,
oh
no,
you
don't
mind.
Thank
you,
chairman
on
the
door.
Credit
I
love
dual
credit,
but
it's
a
caution
that
we
need
to
watch
about
when
students
getting
60
credit
hours,
dual
credit
and
then
when
you
leave
and
start
their
four-year
University,
that
it
puts
them
into
a
category
where
they
may
not
be
able
to
carry
Pell
Grant
or
it
puts
them
in
a
different
level.
Do
we
need
to
be
cautious
about
that
or
not.
F
It
it
doesn't
hurt
them
from
a
financial
aid
perspective.
I
do
think,
there's
probably
some
caution
with
dual
credit,
though,
for
other
reasons,
more
academic
reasons
to
to
be
really
successful
with
the
planning.
These
students
would
have
to
really
know
what
they
wanted
to
do.
You
know
when
they
grow
up.
You
know
when
they
are
actually
taking
these
classes
in
high
school.
Most
teenagers
haven't
figured
out
exactly
what
they
want
to
major
in
and
I'm
sure,
we've
all
kind
of
changed
majors
in
college
a
couple
times
and
that's
the
norm.
F
But
what
happens
with
dual
credit
is
that
they
end
up
taking
all
these
hours
and
they
think
all
hours
are
created,
equal
and
and
they're.
Not
some
of
them
will
transfer.
Some
of
them
will
transfer
only
as
electives
and
they
won't
actually
count
toward
a
major
and
so
there
there
are
certain
circumstances
where
you
have.
You
know
a
student
that
could
be
entering
college
and
they
could
have
all
the
their
electives
knocked
out
and
all
they
have
left
is
their
tougher
courses
for
their
major.
F
So
it
does
help
give
them
a
leg
up,
but
only
if
they've
really
planned
correctly
from
the
beginning
of
taking
this,
and
they
can
do
that-
and
you
know
I'll
tip
my
hat
to
kctcs,
because
they
have
actually
gone
the
distance
with
mapping
out
how
this
looks
especially
on
the
technical
education
side.
You
know
they
give
this
to
students.
It's
almost
a
course
map.
F
If
you're
interested
in
studying
welding
here
are
the
classes
we
recommend
for
each
of
these
years
of
high
school
that
can
help
you,
then
you
know
Fast
Track
into
whatever
you
want
to
do
and
piggyback
onto
the
work
ready
scholarship
for
those
two
additional
years
of
college
to
get
that
associate
degree,
and
so
it's
that
kind
of
intentional
thought
in
planning
that
needs
to
take
place.
You
know
we
have
had
conversations
with
the
Council
on
post-secondary
education.
F
Thank
you,
I
will
move
on
now
to
some
of
our
other
lottery
funded
programs.
The
Kentucky
National
Guard,
has
a
tuition
award
program.
This
program
has
been
around
for
a
few
decades.
It
provides
tuition
payment
for
the
National
Guard
members
who
are
at
the
public
colleges
all
the
public
institutions
full
tuition
payment
there.
F
But
what
we
have
here
is
the
last
few
years
of
what
our
disbursements
have
looked
like
what
our
recipient
counts
have
looked
like
you
know,
I
would
like
to
note
that
you
know
the
base
appropriation
for
the
National
Guard
program
has
been
the
same
amount
and
that's
7
million.
It's
almost
7.4
million
dollars.
A
few
hundred
shy
of
that,
and
it's
been
at
that
same
level
since
2018.
we've
had
conversations
with
the
National
Guard
recently.
F
We
also
have
a
teacher
scholarship
program.
This
program
has
also
been
around
for
a
few
decades.
It
is
not
widely
known,
though
it's
probably
our
best
kept
secret-
that
we
would
like
to
no
longer
make
a
secret,
but
it
has
had
some
funding
difficulties.
There
were
a
few
years
of
the
state
budget
that
it
was
not
funded
at
all,
and
so
during
those
years
we
have
kind
of
kept
the
scholarship
Alive
by
using
some
of
the
money
that
has
been
paid
through
Collections,
and
so
by
that
I
mean
this.
F
This
particular
program
is
a
conversion
Loan
program.
It
comes
with
strings
attached.
It
starts
as
a
scholarship
and
for
each
semester
that
that
student
receives
a
teacher
scholarship
they're
expected
to
work
as
a
teacher
in
Kentucky
and
provide
qualifying
service.
If,
for
some
reason
they
change
that
nature,
they
do
not
end
up
being
a
teacher
or
they
just
for
whatever
reason
do
not.
You
know,
may
go
into
Administration
or
something
if
they
don't
have
qualifying
service,
it
converts
to
a
loan,
and
then
we
collect
on
it,
and
we
have
repayment
funds
for
that.
F
So
during
those
lean
years
we
use
the
repayment
Monies
to
keep
the
program
going.
During
the
past
session,
though
we
budget
session,
we
had
a
one
million
dollar
appropriation,
so
we
are
trying
to
use
that
to
grow
the
program
again
to
kind
of
help
address
some
of
the
teacher
shortage
issues.
So
this
program
historically
has
been
for
students
who
are
pursuing
initial
teacher
certification.
F
There
is
an
allowance
in
the
law
that
will
let
us
use
it
for
teachers
who
are
going
back
to
school
to
seek
additional
credentials
that
came
about
when
we
were
starting
up
all
the
Dual
credit
programs
and
we
needed
teachers
who
would
be
credentialed
to
teach
dual
credit
coursework
and
to
be.
You
know,
meet
the
post-secondary
requirements
for
that
and
the
accreditation.
So
that's
that's
what
that
is
that
intent
is
for,
for
that.
The
award
amount
on
this
teacher
scholarship
is
currently
2500
per
term
and
it'll
go
fall
spring
and
summer.
F
There
was
also
one
of
the
bills
passed
in
this
last
session.
That
would
allow
Kia
to
well
actually
remove
the
aggregate
limit
that
we
had
in
place,
so
it
would
allow
Kia
to
increase
that
award
amount
if
we
could
so
right
now
we're
just
watching
the
funding
situation
and
trying
to
find
people
who
can
actually
become
teachers,
and
and
do
this
we
have
a
few
other
Kia
student
aid
programs
that
are
not
lottery
funded,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
them
to
your
attention.
F
Since
you're,
looking
at
the
large
pot
of
money
with
this
task
force,
one
is
an
early
childhood
development
scholarship.
This
is
also
education
related,
but
it's
for
people
who
are
working
with
preschool-aged
children
to
receive
this
scholarship.
They
have
to
be
working
in
a
daycare
setting
20
hours
per
week,
so
we
know
that
there
are
folks
who
actually
like
to
work
with
young
children.
F
The
program
was
unfunded
in
the
budget
a
few
years
ago.
It
was
actually
would
have
ended
last
year,
all
the
way
around,
but
the
Cabinet
for
Health
and
Family
Services
received
some
arpa
Grant
funds
and
they
funneled
those
over
to
us
and
we've
been
able
to
keep
that
going
so
that
we
can
have
more
educated,
preschool
age
teach
preschool
teachers
so
that
Federal
funding
it
helped
us
keep
the
program
going
through
the
end
of
last
year.
F
We're
running
it
off
of
that
programming
or
that
money
this
year
and
next
year,
and
then,
after
that,
this
program
runs
out
of
money
completely,
and
so
it
we
will
be
putting
in
that.
This
request
into
the
budget
to
actually
have
State
dollars,
appropriated
to
it
once
again,
but
other
than
that.
This
program
goes
away.
C
F
That
particular
change
came
when
the
federal
funding
kicked
in
prior
to
that
the
Early
Childhood
scholarship
amount
was
one
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
the
year,
and
so
when
we
had
the
federal
dollars,
we
worked
with
the
Cabinet
for
Health
and
Family
Services
and
the
governor's
office
of
early
childhood,
and
they
wanted
that
rate
increased.
So
they
could
help
cover
that
full
tuition
rate
at
the
public.
So
that's
that's
how
that
came
to
be.
C
Just
as
a
follow-up,
but
why
specifically
two
different
metrics
in
one
case,
it's
UK's
rate
and
the
other
it's
the
average
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
is-
is
one
better
than
the
other.
Should
we
standardize
it
so
that
all
of
the
different
scholarships
are
either
based
upon
the
average
of
the
state
institutions
or
UK's
rate.
F
F
We
also
are
running
a
pilot
program
that
funds
were
appropriated
to
Kia
from
the
keys
program.
Reserve
account
in
this
past
budget
and
it
was
to
jointly
administer
a
program,
an
Innovative
scholarship
pilot
program
with
Kentucky
Council
and
post-secondary
education,
and
so
what
this
has
done
is
this
serves
two
two
populations
of
students
that
are
somewhat
different.
F
The
humanitarian
assistance
program
is
I,
would
say,
making
headlines
of
A
Sort
for
Kentucky
we're
on
The
Cutting
Edge.
With
that
program,
the
other
states
really
aren't
doing
anything
to
help
the
refugee
populations,
and
so
we've
been
gaining
a
lot
of
national
attention.
I
know
that
we
have
received
requests
to
speak
at
some
national
conferences,
different
things
like
that
to
say:
hey,
what's
Kentucky
doing,
how
is
this
working
out
for
you
for
me
personally,
this
has
been
a
huge
lesson
in
Immigration
and
how
documentation
works,
and
things
like
that.
F
It
has
been
very
interesting.
We
are
waiting
to
see
we
had
to
start
this
up
last
summer,
so
the
colleges
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
to
recruit
students
to
figure
out
how
it
worked.
We
did
for
the
fall
semester
had
146
students
who
received
the
humanitarian
assistance
Aid.
We
had
25
different
countries
of
origin.
F
Once
the
schools
reported
the
data
to
us
on
who
those
students
were
I've,
given
you
there,
the
largest
populations
being
from
on
the
Democratic
Republic
of
the
Congo
and
Venezuela
and
Tanzania,
but
we
did
have
some
students
who
were
from
Cuba
Ukraine.
We
had
students
really
from
all
over
the
Sudan.
It
was
really
interesting
to
see
what
we've
learned
as
well.
Is
you
know
these
refugees?
They
really
don't
have
a
choice
in
where
they
are
placed
by
the
federal
government.
F
They're
just
told
this
is
where
you're
going
to
go
to
live,
and
so
we've
kind
of
just
opened
that
up
to
say,
they're,
not
really
Kentucky
residents,
but
they
are
attending
a
Kentucky
school.
We
also
established
a
community
of
practice
and
brought
in
some
national
partners
that
know
more
about
immigration
and
these
populations
than
we
do
and
they're
kind
of
having
regular
meetings
with
the
institutions
and
and
different
folks
monthly
to
give
them.
You
know,
tips
on
how
to
reach
out
what
kind
of
services
those
populations
need.
F
Things
like
that,
so
we
can
just
have
a
better,
be
more
wholly
educated
on
exactly
what
the
needs
are
for
those
students,
but
that
was
10
million
dollars,
and
this
this
is
the
first
year
of
the
pallet
program,
those
funds,
what
we
don't
spend
this
year
and
we've
spent
about
two
million
dollars
so
far,
just
in
this
first
year
that
all
continues
on
into
next
year
and
so
we'll
have
a
better
account.
The
schools
have
to
give
us
reports
every
six
months
or
so
to
let
us
know
who
they've
served
and
things
the
study
abroad.
F
Piece
is
really
kicking
in
this
summer.
That's
where
most
of
that
activity
is
coming
so
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
statistical
information
for
you
on
that
piece
of
the
program
just
yet
all
right.
We
have
a
couple
other
programs
that
have
been
transferred
to
Kia
recently
in
the
last
few
years.
One
is
the
veterinary
contract
spaces
program.
That
program
has
been
around
for
a
number
of
years
and
was
formerly
administered
by
the
Kentucky
Council
on
post-secondary
education.
But
now
it
is,
has
comes
over
to
Kia
and
it's
in
our
in
our
budget.
F
It
provides
tuition
assistance
to
Kentucky
residents
who
are
going
pursuing
their
doctorate
in
veterinary
medicine.
So
we
have
two
different
colleges
that
participate
with
us
through
the
southern
region:
education
board.
They
have
the
contract
spaces
program,
so
that's
Auburn,
University's,
College
of
veterinary
medicine
and
then
Tuskegee
University,
both
of
those
schools
being
in
Alabama
There's,
164
spaces.
F
So
that's
the
number
of
students
we
have
152
of
those
go
to
Auburn,
the
other
12
go
to
Tuskegee
each
year,
and
so,
if
you
take
that
152
divide
by
four
that
comes
back
to
38
students
each
year
from
Kentucky,
that
Auburn
along
will
admit
into
their
Veterinary
College
are
from
Kentucky.
So
that
program
is
very
successful.
We
want
to
keep
that
going,
so
you
can
have
an
idea.
The
appropriation
for
next
year
is
that
5.6
million
dollars
that's
about
34
500
per
seat
that
we're
paying
for
those
students
to
receive
that
tuition
benefit.
F
We
also
have
an
optometry
scholarship
program
that
formerly
was
a
contract
spaces
program
and
the
legislature
decided
to
make
it
a
scholarship
program
so
that
that
bill
was
passed
a
few
years
ago
and
then
that
came
to
Kia
when
that
change
occurred.
These
are
for
students
who
are
pursuing
a
doctor,
not
an
optometry,
and
we
have
four
different
institutions
that
participate.
We
have
a
Kentucky
College
of
Optometry,
that's
in
Pikeville
per
the
statute.
F
One-Third
of
the
funding
ends
up
going
to
that
institution,
and
so
we
make
sure
that
that
happens,
and
then
we
have
three
other
out-of-state
institutions
that
participate
in
the
program.
These
four
institutions
were
really
the
institutions
that
were
participating
in
contract
spaces
and
we
just
kept
that
rolling
forward
with
the
participating
institutions
into
the
scholarship
program.
There
is
a
selection
committee
that
meets
each
year
and
actually
selects
the
applicants
for
this
based
on
a
variety
of
things,
and
but
the
current
funding
is
support
about
52
students
in
next
year's
base.
F
And
then
we
have
just
three
more
programs
that
I'll
mention
here
on
this
slide:
one's
an
early
graduation
scholarship
for
high
school
students
that
finish,
these
are
public
high
school
students
that
graduate
in
three
or
less
years
from
their
school.
It
is
a
seek
split
with
the
school
district
for
these
students,
it's
a
one-time
award,
and
so
what
happens
for
that
student?
They
graduating
in
three
years.
Whatever
that
seek
money
would
be
for
that
year,
they're
not
there.
We
just
split
with
them.
F
The
district
gets
half
and
the
student
gets
the
other
half
for
a
one-time
scholarship,
it's
about
two
thousand
dollars.
We
do
not
have
a
lot
of
students
that
do
this.
It's
about
45,
50,
kids,
each
year
so,
but
that
is
also
there.
We
have
an
osteopathic
medicine
scholarship
for
students
who
are
attending
Kentucky
College
of
Osteopathic
Medicine
in
Pikeville
that
particular
award.
It
uses
the
difference
between
UK
and
uofl's
medical
school
rates
and
the
Kentucky
College
of
Optometry,
and
it
makes
up
the
difference
in
that
it
is,
is
a
conversion
program.
F
F
The
coal
County
scholarship
for
pharmacy
students
is
in
a
similar
vein.
It's
also
a
conversion
Loan
program.
They
have
to
provide
Pharmacy
service
in
a
Kentucky
coal
producing
County,
and
this
one
is
locked
down
to
students
who
are
residents
of
coal,
producing
counties
who
are
providing
service
and
co-producing
counties,
and
if
they're
unable
to
do
that,
then
it's
converts
to
a
loan
and
has
to
be
repaid
and
with
that
that
is
the
end
of
my
presentation.
A
First
of
all,
thank
you
you've,
given
us
a
pretty
thorough
overview.
I
can
I
can
honestly
say:
I've
learned
quite
a
bit.
We've
gone
through
a
lot
of
slides
folks
late
in
the
day,
I
realize
we've
all
been
at
lots
of
other
meetings
all
afternoon.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience
today.
Is
there
any
questions
before
we
wrap
up
today,
so
I
think
we
had
a
couple
so
first
I'd
like
to
representative
timony.
G
Thank
you,
chairman,
your
Veterinary
contract
spaces.
That's
my
dad's
a
veterinarian,
so
I
pay
close
attention
to
that
particular
realm
and
I
know
the
state
of
Kentucky.
We
have
a
shortage
of
veterinarians,
large
animals,
specifically
commodity,
so
we
have
we
have
almost
enough
equine,
but
we
don't
have
anywhere
near
what
we
need.
As
far
as
for
Hogs
or
cattle,
are
we
specific
with
what
type
of
programs
they're
going
into
and
are
they
required
to
return
home.
F
F
There
has
been
I've
seen,
stats
from
Auburn
and
I
use
Auburn,
as
example,
because
they
have
the
majority
of
the
activity
there.
You
know
they
have
a
very
high
rate
of
students
who
just
return
to
Kentucky,
as
is
so.
My
understanding
is
that
when
this
legislation
was
being
considered
that
veterinarians
said
we're
going
to
have
enough
come
back,
we
didn't
want
to
put
strings
on
it.
I
can
tell
you
that
there
is.
F
G
The
the
shortage
area
is
alarming,
considering
how
Kentucky
is
you
know
very
heavily
agrarian
when
it
comes
to
that
type
of
thing
and
I
believe
that
when
my
family
moved
to
Kentucky
in
in
1991,
there
were
300
and
now
there's
less
than
50.
As
my
understanding
and
that's
I
mean
it's
amazing,
it's
a
part
of
our
it's
part
of
our
economy
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
sure
that
our
farmers
are
are
getting
the
care
and
and
their
products
are
great.
So
thank
you.
I
B
I
I
said
the
heightened
awareness
you
mentioned,
foreign
students
coming
in
or
the
pro
the
public
schools,
but
we
have
families
that
have
paid
for
homeschooling
their
kid,
their
whole
lives
and
they're
paying
into
the
system,
and
really
it's
they're,
not
being
TR
they're
being
treated
in
a
discriminatory
way,
because
these
say
homeschoolers
don't
have
access
to
Keys
money
right
and
and
they're
doing.
Homeschool
families
are
doing
a
favor
to
the
state
because
they
haven't
used
State
funds
they're,
taking
care
of
it
themselves,
whether
it's
Catholic
school
or
private
school.