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A
Good
afternoon,
I
hereby
call
this
the
second
meeting
of
the
early
childhood
education
task
force
to
order
as
a
reminder
for
everyone
to
please
put
your
cell
phones
on
silent
turn
them
off
if
you
want,
but
I
think
silent
is
probably
what
works
for
everybody's
schedule
right
now
mara.
Can
you
please
call
the
roll.
F
A
Present
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
at
this
time,
so
we
will
not
be
able
to
approve
minutes,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
we
will
approve
minutes
if
we
get
a
quorum
by
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Does
any
members
have
any
questions
or
recognitions
they
would
like
to
make.
A
A
So
that's
why
they
are
there
when
the
period
comes
for
you
all
to
comment,
if
you
can,
please
come
to
the
table
with
the
microphone,
we
would
greatly
appreciate
it,
so
that-
and
you
know
just
you
know,
make
sure
to
make
contact
with
mara
or
ben
or
myself
or
co-chair
carol
to
let
us
know
if
you
want
to
talk
or
you
can
text
us,
and
let
us
know
that
you
would
like
to
speak
to
come
up
to
the
table.
A
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
concise
as
possible
and
be
so.
Everyone
can
hear
since
they're,
not
microphones,
and
another
reason
that
we
have
microphones
is
so
that
people
watching
on
ket
can
also
hear
so
make
sure
that
when
you
are
speaking,
you
hit
the
microphone
button,
which
is
on
that
it
will
be
green,
so
make
sure
whenever
you're
doing
that.
So
everyone
can
hear,
as
noted
last
month,
addressing
a
child
care
crisis
in
kentucky
is
addressing
the
workforce
shortages
as
well.
B
Kuna
tavlin
senior
advisor
to
the
u.s
chamber
of
commerce
foundation.
G
G
The
way
that
this
presentation
is
going
to
flow
is
that,
first,
I'm
going
to
start
out
by
simply
framing
the
conversation
and
talking
about
why
this
issue
is
not
only
of
interest
to
kentucky's
economy,
kentucky's
business
community,
but
is
increasingly
becoming
one
of
the
most
pressing
workforce
issues
facing
our
economy
and
facing
the
business
community.
After
that,
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
very
specific
examples
of
employer-led
solutions
in
this
space.
We
talk
about
things
like
on-site,
child
care,
employer-provided,
child
care
benefits.
G
We're
also
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
federal
landscape
for
child
care
policy
and
state
efforts
throughout
the
nations
that
will
be
led
by
kunatavalin,
with
the
u.s
chamber
of
commerce
foundation.
Who
can
really
speak
to
things
that
we're
seeing
broadly
and
then.
Finally,
we
will
conclude
with
some
specific
policy
recommendations
from
the
kentucky
chamber
for
this
task
force
to
consider.
G
G
This
first
chart
here
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
number
of
job
vacancies
that
are
currently
in
kentucky,
as
well
as
the
number
of
individuals
who
are
currently
seeking
employment
in
the
states.
So
what
you
can
look
at
here
is
that
blue
line
that
blue
line
represents
the
number
of
job
vacancies
throughout
the
states.
G
You
can
see
kind
of
going
back
to
january
2020
that
was
roughly
down
closer
to
less
than
100
000
throughout
the
course
of
the
economic
recovery
from
cover
19
that
has
steadily
increased,
based
on
the
most
recent
data
that
we
have
there's
roughly
180,
000
open
jobs
in
this
state
that
comes
down
from
an
all-time
high
of
north
of
200
000
just
in
the
preceding
month.
This
is
a
very,
very
large
number
of
open
job
vacancies
throughout
kentucky
that
red
line
represents
our
unemployment
rate
or
not.
Unemployment
rate.
G
Nowadays,
though,
we're
roughly
in
the
range
of
around
70
to
80
000
individuals
who
are
unemployed,
it's
important
to
remember
how
unemployment
is
defined.
Unemployment
means
you're
an
individual
without
a
job
and
you're
actively
seeking
work,
so
these
aren't
people
that
are
not
seeking
work.
These
are
folks
who
want
a
job.
What
this
chart
means
is
that
we're
dealing
with
a
situation
where
we
have
roughly
two
open
jobs
for
every
individual
that
is
actively
seeking
work
that
puts
a
really
tight
strain
on
your
labor
market
and
makes
it
very
very
difficult
for
employers
to
hire.
G
The
point,
though,
that
I'd
want
to
make
and
really
stress
here,
is
that
this
problem,
as
bad
as
it
is
for
employers
is
not
necessarily
new
in
kentucky
anybody.
That's
sort
of
seen
me
give
any
sort
of
talk
or
dealt
with
labor
force.
Related
issues
has
probably
seen
this
chart.
What
you're
looking
at
here
is
the
united
states
workforce
participation
rate.
That's
the
red
line
below
that
the
blue
line
is
kentucky's,
workforce
participation
rate.
You
can
point
out
two
distinct
things
when
you
look
at
these.
G
First,
a
noticeable
gap
between
the
workforce,
participation
rates
between
kentucky
and
the
united
states.
That
is
something
that
has
been
very
consistent
over
time
generally
about
a
four-point
difference
between
u.s
rates
of
work
for
adults
and
kentucky
rates
of
work.
The
other
noticeable
decline
issue,
though,
is
that
downward
trend
line.
The
number
of
individuals
that
are
actively
participating
in
the
workforce
has
been
steadily
declining
ever
since
for
really
about
the
past
20
years
or
so,
and
there's
no
showing
really
any
signs
of
that
decreasing.
G
G
I
do
think
that's
a
difficult
thing
to
quantify,
but
it's
important
that
we
make
some
efforts
to
do
that.
There's
a
lot
of
good
polling
data
that
we
can
look
at
to
get
a
sense
of
just
how
much
issues
related
to
accessing
quality,
child
care
or
affording
child
child
care
could
be
potentially
affecting
the
ability
of
individuals
to
work.
This
is
just
a
quick
sampling
of
that.
The
bipartisan
polling
center
policy
center
polling
has
done
some
some
good
research
on
this
68
of
respondents
to
a
poll
that
they
did.
G
I
believe
in
2021
showed
child
care
affected
one's
individual
to
stay
in
the
workforce.
66,
noting
child
care
affected
their
ability
to
work
more
hours,
20
percent
flat
out
said
they
had
to
quit
a
job
due
to
stay
at
home,
with
a
child
related
issues
to
such
as
accessing
child
care.
It
later
might
be
mentioned
some
of
the
other
polling.
The
u.s
chamber
foundation
has
done
in
that
area.
It
shows
similar
data.
G
Another
resource
we
can
look
to
there
to
kind
of
get
more
specific
to
kentucky
is
a
data
set
from
the
united
states
census
bureau.
Something
they
started
doing
during
colvid
is
something
called
the
household
pulse
survey.
It's
a
little
bit
of
experimental
data
where
they
are
asking
folks
who
aren't
working.
G
A
whole
range
of
different
options
are
available
to
folks
in
this,
but
one
of
the
options
that
people
select
is
they're
not
working
because
of
care
for
children
not
in
school
or
daycare,
based
on
the
most
recent
data
that
was
around
45
to
50
000
kentuckians,
who
are
not
able
to
work
due
to
children
due
to
taking
care
of
children
who
are
not
school
or
not
in
school,
or
not
in
daycare.
To
quantify
that
a
little
bit
further.
G
If
we
were
to
take
that
45
000
people
and
remove
those
barriers
for
them
and
bring
them
into
the
workforce,
that
could
increase
our
labor
force
participation
rate
by
more
than
a
full
point,
and
to
put
that
into
context,
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
move
a
full
point
in
your
labor
force,
participation.
So
being
able
to
do.
That
would
be
extraordinary.
I
think
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
stresses
that
are
being
placed
with
that.
G
I
I
This
is
just
a
quick
image
of
our
child
development
center.
It
was
established
in
january
1993
and
for
those
who
remember,
captain
kangaroo
captain
kangaroo
was
actually
on
hand
to
help
us
with
the
grand
opening,
so
that
was
a
very
exciting
day
for
us.
We
partner
with
bright
horizons
who
have
done
a
great
job
running
our
programs.
I
The
building
is
around
25
000
square
foot
and
has
16
classrooms.
One
stem
room
and
one
exercise
room
for
appropriate
age:
children
to
have
movement
so
to
speak
next
slide.
J
A
I
I
That
is
like
iconic
right
so
when,
when
well
he'd
been
around
for
many
years
before
he
passed,
but
kids
kind
of
grew
up
with
him
on
tv
and
he
was
kind
of
doing
the
children's
programs
and
all
the
children
looked
to
him
as
all-knowing
right
and
he
would
have
you
know
basically
daily
programs
on
and
you'd
wear
captain
head
and
he
was
really
cool.
That's
all
I
can
say
I.
I
Sorry
about
that
all
right,
this
is
a
facility
map.
I
just
wanted
you
all
to
have.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
with
your
senator.
I
I
We
currently
have
179
children
enrolled
at
our
child
development
center.
We
do
have
a
wait
list
about
88
children
and,
and
certainly
our
open
position
status
of
nine
teachers
is
contributing
to
that.
We
do
struggle
to
find
teachers
interested
in
employment.
In
this
area
we
really
pride
ourselves
on
maintaining
low
child
to
staff
ratio,
to
ensure
the
quality
of
care
for
for
these
kids,
and
so
that
is
part
of
our
current
challenge.
I
Right
now
to
even
be
able
to
accommodate
more
families
with
child
care
needs
next
slide,
and
here
are
some
of
the
highlights
for
our
child
development
center
and
to
the
right.
You
can
see
some
images
of
students
doing
their
homework
and
this
is
actually
a
sleep
room
on
the
right
side.
So
again
we
open
in
january
93.,
angie
looney
is
our
center
director
and
has
been
at
the
toyota
site
for
25
years,
so
we're
really
proud
of
of
that
and
and
some
consistency
that
comes
with
that.
I
I
We
also
offer
busing,
we
bring
school-age
kids
to
and
from
school,
and
we
do
field
trips
for
those
school-aged
kids,
as
well
as
community
outreach
programs.
So
we
we
definitely
try
to
engage
all
levels
of
the
age
groups
that
we
support
this
next
slide.
I
wanted
to
give
you
also
an
image
of
our
partnership
with
bright
horizons
and
some
of
the
programs
we
have.
I
Toyota
also
offers
support
services
for
our
team
members,
including
free
sitter
city
membership,
to
find
background
check,
babysitters
nannies,
caregivers,
pet
sitters
household
help.
We
also
provide
15
backup
care
days
per
calendar
year
for
unexpected
needs
for
our
team
members.
We
provide
free
college
guidance
from
former
college
admission
and
financial
aid
officers,
and
we
also
provide
special
needs
guidance
from
education
experts
and,
finally,
the
toyota
program
also
provides
education,
assist
solutions
with
free
personalized
guidance
from
education
and
financial
wellness,
coaches,
and
all
of
this
is
through
the
bright.
I
My
bright
horizons
platform
with
access
to
all
programs
in
one
place
and
while
toyota
has
the
means
to
provide
these
programs,
we
know
we're
a
big
company
and
there
are
many
businesses
in
our
supply
chain
that
don't,
and
it
takes
just
one
missing
part
on
our
vehicles
to
impact
our
ability
to
produce,
and
so
we're
very
conscious
of
that,
and
that's
why
we
are
here
today
advocating
for
early
childhood
child
care
development
to
support
that
future
workforce
as
well
next
slide,
and
I
wanted
to
to
show
you
all
this
image
recently
in
april,
lieutenant
governor
coleman
visited
our
site
and
we're
very
excited
to
showcase
our
development
center.
I
We
know
as
a
former
teacher
and
mother
child
care
is
a
very
important
topic
for
her
as
well
and,
and
so
she
did
spend
quite
a
few
hours
touring
the
facility
and
asking
questions
and
definitely
appreciative
of
her
time
to
see
what
we're
doing
and
with
that
said,
that
completes
my
review.
What
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
today,
I
appreciate
so
much
allowing
us
to
allow
me
to
share
this
program
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
I
guess.
A
F
I
We
don't
get
contacted
often
probably
through
other
sources.
You
know
from
that
perspective,
if
we're
talking
specifically
about
the
child
care
development
center.
As
an
example,
just
by
our
participating
in
the
kentucky
chamber
activity,
we
were
connected
to
our
cvg
counterparts
up
in
northern
kentucky,
who
we
have
a
meeting
with
on
wednesday
to
share
some
of
the
child
care
development
activity.
So
I
think,
as
we
continue
to
maybe
advertise
it,
a
little
bit
more
people
become
aware
and
certainly
they're
interested
to
understand
what
works
and
what
doesn't.
I
No,
each
one
does
not
we're
actually
rolling
out
two
in
the
future
that
one
has
been
announced.
One
hasn't
I'll
tell
you
just
my
example:
from
coming
from
texas
from
san
antonio
I've
spent
seven
years
in
san
antonio
city
is
about
65
hispanic
and
what
we
heard
from
our
team
members
is
there.
You
know
they
depend
on
their
families
to
take
care
of
their
children.
I
You
know
multi-generation
living
together
and
we
found
that
the
child
care
center
in
that
particular
state
and
area
of
the
of
the
country
wasn't
necessarily
something
that
the
team
members
are
looking
towards,
but
in
general
you
know
we're
looking
at
mississippi
we're
looking
at
alabama
right
now.
We
have
a
child
care
center
already
in
our
princeton
indiana
plant,
but
it's
depending
on
the
need
and
the
and
the
projected
usage
as
well.
F
And
with
bright
horizons,
do
do
the
staff
at
that
at
the
child
care
center
actually
work
for
them
or
do
they
work
for
toyota.
I
Yeah
those
those
staff
members
actually
work
with
bright
horizons
and
our
contract
is
with
bright
horizons,
but
we
do
have
a
team
who
has
responsibility
to
ensure
you
know
the
program,
the
running
of
the
programs,
the
the
building
upkeep.
All
those
key
points
that
ensure
our
quality
of
program.
Okay,.
F
So
what
did
you
all
do
when,
when
toyota,
when
the
plant
was
built,
was
that
that
was
part
of
the
initial
plan
I'm
assuming
to
to
have
that
facility
built
to
provide
child
care?
And
if
so,
what?
What
led
toyota
to
making
that
decision
were
there
surveys
done?
Did
you
all
feel
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
critical
aspect
of
getting
the
workforce
necessary
or
what
was
the
thought
process.
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can
tell
you
specifically,
because
our
plant
did
open
in
1988
87
somewhere
around
that
range,
but
you
know
shortly
after
about
six
years
later
we
did
build
this
facility
and
we
don't
do
anything
at
toyota
unless
there's
a
need
and
certainly
that
feedback
coming
from
our
team
members
said
there
was
especially
second
shift
where
there's
not
so
many
options
for
daycare
outside
the
family
so
definitely
saw
the
need
there
and
pursued
it.
You
know
it's
still
a
bit
challenging
for
our
members.
I
Even
at
the
you
know,
the
price
range
we
set
to
be
competitive.
You
know,
with
the
other
child
care
facilities
and
to
offer
the
fair
market
value,
that's
required.
It
is
still
quite
costly
and
you
know.
Certainly
we
are
very
cognizant
of
about
that.
A
lot
of
the
programs
that
we've
added
onto
our
existing
facility.
If
you
will
are
kind
of
in
the
background-
and
we
haven't
really
passed
those
costs
on
to
our
team
members,
just
to
keep
that
competitive
rate.
F
Okay
and
one
more
and
I'll
stop
the
school
age,
sleep
room,
I
I
run
a
center
and
we
we
operate
very
similar
to
the
way
you
all
do
with
all
the
services,
but
I've
never
heard
of
that
and
is
that
is,
is
it
just
for
school-aged
children
whose
parents
work
work,
a
late
shift.
I
It's
it's
really
especially
focused
on
our
second
chef
team
members
and
their
children.
Now
you
could
see-
probably
let
me
just
reference
back
to
that
number.
We
have
about
41
students,
our
children
on
second
shift
right
now,
and
you
can
see
about.
I
F
And
I
I
think
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
you
know.
I
don't
know
that
a
lot
of
child
care
centers,
look
at
that
the
the
overnight.
I
know
we
don't
and
you
know
being
in
paducah.
We
have
two
large
hospitals
that
I'm
sure
could
benefit
from
another
provider
so
that
that's
an
interesting
concept
and
I
like
that
yeah.
I
What
we
found
when
we
looked
around
georgetown
in
the
areas
it
wasn't
available
and
you
know
second
shift
daycare
and
our
nightcare.
I
guess
it
would
be,
and
so
we
we
saw
the
need
there,
and
you
know
the
parents
obviously
were
conveying
that
need-
and
you
know
certainly
that's
some
peace
of
mind
for
folks,
especially
those
single
parents
that
don't
necessarily
have
that
support
structure,
yeah
and
I'm
going
to
have.
F
C
Raymond,
yes,
thank
you
sandy.
I
was
able
to
come
on
that
tour
with
the
lieutenant
governor
in
april
and
we
just
had
our
jaws
open
the
entire
time,
because
we
couldn't
believe
how
fabulous
the
center
was
and
the
quality
of
it,
of
course,
we're
both
childcare
consumers-
and
you
mentioned
the
pricing
right
and
I
I
won't
say
the
number
for
my
memory.
C
If
you
have
it
handy
I'd
love
for
you
to
tell
folks
what
what
it's
costing
families,
but
I
remember
thinking
it
would
have
been
one
and
a
half
times
that
at
the
market
rate.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
How
do
you
think
about
this
sort
of
chicken
and
egg
challenge
of
people
need
child
care
to
work,
but
you've
got
a
wait
list.
That's
80
something
deep
and
that's
because
you
don't
have
the
educators
you
need
to
for
those
children.
So
there's
the
educators.
C
You
need
to
hire
the
workers
you
need
to
hire
and
then
the
daycare
slots
you
need-
and
it's
I'm
not
sure
which
piece
you
know
it's
a
puzzle,
that's
hard
to
solve.
How
do
you
think
about
that?.
I
Yeah
and
it's
good
to
see
you
again
as
well
and
I'm
glad
you
enjoyed
the
the
visit
you
know
from
the
standpoint
of,
and
and
can
you
just
tell
me
the
first
part
of
your
question.
I
got
the
child
care
to
work
chicken,
eggs,
the.
C
Chicken
and
egg:
that's
how
you
think
through
you
know,
do
we
increase
the
number
of
slots,
so
we
can
increase
the
number
of
employees
or
you
know,
we've
hired
the
people
yeah,
but
their
children
are
on
the
wait
list
now
and
we
know
that
may
lead
to
challenges.
That's
right,
reporting
to
work,
yeah.
I
And
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
mentioned
also
that
we
do
have
kind
of
in
the
background,
if
you
will
services
available
for
our
team
members,
is
that
kind
of
emergency
type,
child
care
link
as
well,
so
that
they
can
reach
out
if
they
do
have
some
type
of
challenge
for
child
care
in
general
about
this
weight?
I
don't
like
it.
I
don't
like
the
88
team
members,
kids
or
88
kids
at
least,
are
waiting
to
be
part
of
the
child
care
center.
I
Parents
have
to
do,
especially
on
the
second
shift,
but
and
it's
a
struggle
right
now
because
of
the
you
know
the
wage
of
a
competitive
wage
for
these
teachers,
and
I
mean
you
can
you've
seen
a
fast
food
right
now
is
offering
up
to
20
bucks
an
hour
and
to
be
competitive
and
still
keep
the
rates
that
we're
keeping
is
is
is
also
a
challenge.
I
You
know
one
thing
that
if
you
look
at
just
one
child
during
for
a
week,
it's
around
160
to
180,
depending
on
the
age
group,
which
is
comparable
to
other
child
care
facilities.
My
understanding
from
our
staff
is,
this
is
also
a
requirement
of
erisa
to
be
to
offer
fair
market
value
for
the
child
care
cost
to
the
team
member,
because
certainly
we
don't
want
our
team
members
to
be
penalized
through
taxation
or
other
means
by
you
know
offering
like
subsidies
and
that
type
of
thing.
I
So
that
is
our
dilemma,
because
certainly
we
are
competitive,
but
you
know
just
sitting
back
thinking.
Why
can't
we
offer
more?
And
those
are
some
of
the
challenge
points
that
we
have,
but
I
know
bright
horizons
is
working
very
hard
to
solve
the
teacher
issue,
but
you
know,
as
charles
mentioned,
what
two
jobs
one
person
right-
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we
are.
I
So-
and
I
actually
charles-
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
to
that
slide,
but
it
was
around
the
toyota
family
support
services
and
we
have
a
partnership
with
bright
horizons
that
there
it's
called
free,
sitter
city
membership
and
we
offer
15
back
up
care
days
per
calendar
year
for
unexpected
needs
for
parents.
So
these
are
like
low
cost.
I
think
it's
around
15
a
child.
I
So
we
do
have
those
types
of
services
and
they're
kind
of
bundled
for
our
team
members.
I
want
to
show
you
kind
of
the
brochure
it
kind
of
looks
like
this
toyota,
family
support
services
and
each
of
our
team
members
has
access
to
these
types
of
programs
so
that
they
are
educated
and
they
understand.
I
What
can
I
use?
You
know
whether
it's
a
child,
whether
it's
elder
care,
whether
it's
a
pet.
You
know
I
have
lots
of
pets,
so
I'm
very
sensitive
to
that,
but
it's
a
bundled
a
bundled
service
opportunity
for
team
members
at
sometimes
free
or
low
reduced
costs.
So
it
is
kind
of
one
of
the
tack
on
programs
that
we
have
around
the
child
care
center.
C
And
then,
lastly,
I
wanted
to
ask
you
so
if
the
rate
per
week
is
about
160
to
180,
knowing
what
we
learned
last
month
about
the
margins,
the
razor
then
margins
of
child
care
centers,
I
don't
know
that
that
price
is
covering
the
costs.
So
does
toyota
invest
additional
amounts
to
run
this
center?
How
much
is
that,
and
then
how
do
you
all
measure
a
return
on
your
investment.
I
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
We,
you
know,
I
would
say,
probably
most
of
these
services
you
know
are
around
one
to
two
million
dollars
additional
year
that
that
tweet
is
investing
just
to
cover
these
programs.
I
It
is
not,
you
know,
an
additional
cost.
As
I
mentioned,
it
is
accessible
for
all
team
members.
When
it
comes
to
the
brochure
that
I
mentioned
but
yeah
it's,
it
is
definitely
you
know
a
challenge.
You
know
for
some
families,
some
parents
to
be
able
to
find
the
necessary
means
to
be
able
to
come
to
work.
Very
simply,
you
know,
even
in
my
own
family,
you
know
I
have
nieces
who
are
in
single.
I
You
know
parent
situations,
and
you
know
it's
a
little
bit
aggravating
because
they
don't
work
because
it
would
cost
more
for
their
child
care
than
to
go
to
work.
And
so
for
me
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
very
sensitive
subject
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
come
today
to
really
advocate
for
for
something
to
support
these
families
to
get
folks
back
to
work.
C
I
appreciate
that,
are
you
all
looking
at
employee
attrition
every
year
or
how
do
you
measure
loyalty?
You
know.
I
You
know,
I
think
the
fact
that
we're
maxed
out
right
now
you
know
is
one
is
one
point.
What
we
tend
to
do
is
if
we
see
that
wait
list
is
driven
by
space
versus
teacher
availability,
then
you
know
we
would
look
to
expand.
So
we
probably
if
anybody
knows
toyota,
you
know
we
love
to
measure
everything
and
our
kpis
are
very
important
to
us,
but
you
know
just
having
that
child
care
development
center,
we
believe,
is
a
an
advantage
for
us
when
it
comes
to
hiring
and
retaining.
A
Do
you
have
any
more
questions?
Representative,
raymond?
Okay,
thanks,
I
just
wanna,
I
wanna
wrap
it
up
real
quick,
so
we
can
continue
to
move
on
to
the
rock
castle
hospital
and
if
there
are
any
additional
follow-up
questions,
we'll
save
those
to
the
end
sandy.
I
was
born
in
1992,
so
that
could
explain
why
I
did
not
know
your
reference.
I
will
say
that
senator
caroline
are
very
partial
to
west
kentucky
as
well.
You
know,
grayson
county
is
the
gateway
to
the
west
of
kentucky
and
it's
also
a
convenient
bathroom.
Stop.
K
A
Very
very
appreciative
of
those
tax
dollars
coming
in
to
mcdonald's
and
and
storehouse
coffee.
I
really
you
know
as
you're
saying
this.
I
love
how
toyota's
meeting
people's
needs.
I
think
so
many
times
whether
we're
in
government
or
private
sector,
we
say:
well,
how
can
people
meet
our
needs
rather
than
reaching
out
to
them
and
saying?
How
can
I
meet
your
needs?
And
I
love
that
you
all
are
looking
at
that
being
raised
by
a
single
mom,
especially
you
know.
A
A
I
just
I
really
appreciate
that,
but
I
guess
my
big
ask
is:
would
you
be
willing
to
allow
some
of
the
legislative
task
force
members
on
this
committee
to
come
to
our
urals
facility
or
child
care
facility?
So
we
could
see
firsthand
what
that
looks
like,
because
what
you're
saying
is
wonderful
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
eye-opening
for
us
a
lot
of
times
in
frankfort.
A
We
will
I'll
have
I'll
work
with
charles
on
this
and
and
bring
in
co-chair
carol
and
ben
payne
on
that.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
All
right,
you're
up
next.
H
Thank
you
to
date,
myself,
miss
joyce.
I
I
went
to
toyota
when
I
was
a
junior
in
college
the
first
year
that
it
opened,
and
we
were
all
amazed
at
it
and
so
good
afternoon.
I
introduced
myself
while
ago,
I'm
so
thankful
to
be
here
to
talk
about
something
that
I'm
very
passionate
about,
which
is
quality
early
child
care.
My
name
is
twyla
burdette,
I'm
the
director
at
rockcastle
hospital
child
development
center,
which
is
a
part
of
rockcastle
regional
hospital
and
respiratory
care
center
located
in
mount
vernon
kentucky.
H
We
are
one
of
the
largest
ventilator
units
in
the
eastern
part
of
the
united
states.
We
have
133
ventilator
beds,
26
acute
beds
and
4
icu
beds
of
those
employees.
We
have
824
current
employees
at
our
hospital.
16
of
those
are
at
our
child
care
center.
We
currently
have
about
110
job
vacancies
within
the
hospital
itself.
That
is
about
75
of
that
is
clinical,
hands-on,
folks
that
we
are
missing
from
our
workforce.
H
So
I'm
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we
came
about
and
what
started
us
to
get
us
going
in
december
of
2008.
The
hospital
decided
to
open
our
own
child
care
center
and
that's
when
we
opened
our
doors.
The
opening
of
the
center
was
the
result
of
employee
satisfaction
surveys
the
last
couple
of
years
prior
to
opening.
H
Since
that
time,
we've
moved
once
and
we
increased
our
capacity
as
well
as
we
built
to
suit.
We
are
currently
utilizing
all
of
our
space.
We
are
licensed
for
89
children.
During
the
school
year
we
average
around
62
to
65
kids
a
day
during
the
summer
we
average
around
52
to
55
children
a
day
we
currently
have
120
children
enrolled.
We
serve
children
based
on
the
hospital
employees,
work
schedule
and
they
have
to
be
a
hospital
employee
to
utilize
us.
B
H
Cost
for
child
care
is
based
off
the
employee's
salary
and
how
much
they
make
so
we're
on
a
sliding
scale
fee
for
those
that
are
on
the
lower
income.
They
do
not
pay
as
much
as
those
that
are
on
the
higher
income.
We
currently
serve
children
from
six
different
counties,
we're
open
five
days
a
week
monday.
H
Some
of
our
challenges
that
I
was
asked
to
share
with
you
guys
are
similar
to
miss
joyce's.
Of
course,
some
of
ours
is.
We
have
different
children
every
day.
So
when
I
say
that
we
have
120
kids,
we
aren't
licensed
for
that
many
and
we're
based
off
employees
work
schedules,
so
we
may
have
jeremy
from
maintenance
and
his
child
might
be
there
five
eight
hour
days,
we
may
have
katie
who's
a
nurse
and
we
may
have
her
child
three
12-hour
days.
We
may
have
a
x-ray
technician
for
tens.
H
We
may
have
a
child,
that's
only
there
on
mondays,
because
their
mother
or
father
works
saturday,
sunday
monday,
and
we
may
only
see
that
child
one
day
a
week.
So
last
week
we
had
85
different
children
that
came
through
our
doors,
but
we
never
exceeded
60
children
a
day.
So
that's
to
give
you
an
idea.
H
One
of
our
challenges,
of
course,
is
obviously
scheduling
children's
records,
keeping
up
with
all
that
to
make
sure
we
are
within
licensure
regulations
and
our
stars
regulations,
and
all
that
we
have
to
entail
a
couple
of
other
challenges,
obviously
is
meeting
the
staff
needs
of
the
hospital.
H
This
is
especially
true
for
those
that
provide
the
hands-on
care
for
our
ventilator
patients,
as
well
as
our
acute
patients
and
our
icu
patients
trying
to
staff
our
child
care
center
can
also
be
a
challenge
as
well
planning
ahead
for
next
week's
schedule,
making
sure
that
we're
in
ratio
in
each
room
as
well
as
we
plan
accordingly,
I'm
going
to
ask
him
to
share
the
next
screen.
Some
of
these
are
some
of
their
parent,
testimonials
that
you
have
in
your
handout
as
well.
H
H
So
there's
no
mystery
to
where
the
parent
is
both
the
child
and
parent
have
a
peace
of
mind
which
is
conducive
to
a
positive
emotional
environment
and
it
eases
the
pathway
to
learning
while
they're
in
our
care
for
that
day
or
that
week
or
that
month
or
that
summer
or
that
year,
luca
told
his
mom
the
other
day
that
when
they
pulled
up,
he
said
mommy,
I'm
so
glad
you
work
where
I
go
to
school,
a
nurse
from
pulaski
county.
She
has
a
one-year-old.
H
H
So
when
you
factor
in-
and
you
talk
about
roi
and
you
talk
about
what
cost
and
what
we're
doing-
and
it
truly
is
not
about
making
money,
you
need
to
expect
losses,
because
you
will
have
them
as
we
do
most
every
year
and
the
positives
far
outweigh
the
monetary
loss
that
two
can
be
measured
economically,
the
average
cost
to
lose
an
employee
is
one
times
their
year,
salary.
We
don't
want
to
lose
them,
we
want
to
retain
them.
Try
putting
a
dollar
amount
on
employee
retention.
H
H
We
have
many
different
parent
activities
throughout
the
year
and
we
try
to
utilize
lunch
breaks
to
do
those
whether
it's
thanksgiving
lunch,
family,
picnics
mother's
day,
special
activities
father's
day
special
activities.
So
that
way
they
could
be
incorporated
within
their
work
day
and
they
not
be
taken
away
from
their
work.
This
way
they
don't
lose
time
either.
The
value
of
that
is,
there
is
no
dollar
amount.
H
H
When
you
talk
about
a
return
on
investment,
we
lose
money
almost
every
year
prior
to
the
pandemic,
and
our
recent
grant
money
we
will
lose
anywhere
from
65
to
75
000
a
year,
but
that's
something
that
our
hospital
for
lack
of
better
terms
eats
the
cost,
because
it's
valuable
to
them
for
those
folks
that
they
do
not
have
a
turnover
rate
and
they
do
not
have
to
supplement
for
so.
If
you
have
happy
employees,
you
have
happy
children
and
life
is
much
better
for
all
of
us.
H
Those
parents
do
get
to
continue
to
create
a
bond
while
they're
at
work.
The
cost
is
minimal,
considering
the
value
that
is
gained.
So,
let's
assume
that
we're
all
parents
here
you
can
recognize
value.
You
want
to
spend
time
with
your
children.
You
cannot
put
a
price
tag
on
that.
Let's
remember
what
luca
said:
aren't
you
lucky
to
work
where
mommy
goes
to?
Oh
excuse
me:
aren't
you
lucky
to
work
where
I
get
to
go
to
school,
so
I
saw
luca's
mom
this
morning
and
I
said
hey.
H
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
I
too
see
the
value
at
the
at
the
center
that
we
run
and
it's
child
care
is
one
of
the
programs
we
have.
We
have
programs
for
adults
too
and
being
able
to
attract
employees
and
having
that
on
site
is
invaluable
to
us.
What
we've
got
to
do
as
a
state,
it's
the
the
bill
that
we
pass,
that
that
will
allow
businesses
to
partner
with
the
state
and
and
help.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
F
I
think
what
we've
got
to
focus
on
is:
we've
got
to
make
it
where
it's
mainstream
for
larger
businesses,
not
just
to
help
pay
for
child
care,
but
to
provide
it
to
to
have
a
center
at
that
facility.
That's
that's
our
goal.
That's
what
we've
got
to
do
as
a
state.
We've
got
to
expand
the
number
of
facilities
we.
We
can't
just
work
on
the
demand.
We've
got
to
work
on
the
supply.
H
F
You
know
the
way
you
all
set
up,
and
I
know
baptist
health
does
that
we
have
a
large
center
in
paducah
for
baptist
health
paducah
and
they
do
a
great
job
there
and
it
is
invaluable,
but
you
know
I
hope
one
of
the
things
that
come
out
comes
out
of
this
task
force
is
to
where
we
can
start
making
it
more
mainstream
for
businesses
to
do
that,
and
it's
why
we
ask
economic
development
to
be
here
today
that
when
we,
when
we
talk
to
business
and
industry,
looking
to
come
to
the
commonwealth,
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
conversation
from
day
one
and
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
to
get
to
where
we're.
F
At
that
point,
because
you
know
we
can
you
can
throw
a
lot
of
money
at
it.
But
it's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem.
We
have
to
have
facilities
open
and
it
has
to
come
at
all
the
different
delay
delivery
models
to
make
sure
that
it
happens.
F
H
We
have
simply
because
we
are
very
blessed
with
the
rehab
services
on
site
and
we
do
have
several
children
with
special
needs
that
we're
able
to
accommodate.
We
have
briefly
looked
into
that,
but
honestly
workforce
as
far
as
what
we
can
provide.
Currently,
we
don't
think
that
we
can.
We
can
do
that.
That's.
F
That's
a
good
point
and
it
is
trying
to
compete
to
get
nursing
staff
for
those
programs
is
extremely
difficult,
but
but
that's
another
component
for
that
population
of
kids
that
we
need
to
expand
those
programs
throughout
the
state
also.
F
A
Thank
you.
We
are
going
to
move
on.
I
know
that
kuna
has
to
she's
a
time
frame.
She's
got
a
flight
to
catch,
so
I
want
to
send
that
over
to
her
and
then
we'll
we'll
save
any
questions
at
the
end.
So
please
go.
B
On
thank
you
and
I'll
keep
it
brief,
because
my
colleagues
on
the
panel
have
already
really,
I
think,
done
a
great
job
of
illustrating
why
the
business
community
does
care
about
child
care,
but
to
give
some
context
from
the
u.s
chamber
of
commerce
foundation.
You
know
this
is
a
topic.
We've
been
involved
in
for
quite
a
number
of
years
now
really
launched
in
2017,
with
the
workforce
of
today
workforce
of
tomorrow
report
and
just
a
few
points
on
that
there
are
14
million
families
with
young
children
currently
participating
in
the
workforce.
B
So
for
those
folks
this
is
really
a
pressing
issue
and
then
also
even
pre-pandemic,
as
charles
illustrated
we
were
not
operating
at
full
capacity
right,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
about
that.
Why
is
that?
And
so
the
chamber
foundation
has
done
a
number
of
surveys
to
get
a
better
idea
of
what
is
happening
in
the
context
of
of
workforce
participation
and
child
care,
and
we
got
feedback
from
working
families
that
about
50
of
them
wanted
to
cite
child
care
as
the
reason
that
they
exited
the
workforce.
B
And
when
you
look
at
women
in
particular
it's
about
three-quarters.
They
say
that
child
care
is
the
reason
that
they
are
not
participating
and,
and
then,
as
my
as
my
my
co-panelists
have
mentioned,
to
the
the
cost
of
replacing
a
worker
can
be.
You
know
up
to
150
of
that
employee's
salary.
So
right,
what
you're
losing
when
you
lose
folks
in
the
workforce
is
really
quite
pricey,
and
then
I
one
thing
that
really
struck
me
is
that
twyla
and
sandy
both
talked
about
how
having
child
care
on
on-site.
B
They
both
use
the
phrase
peace
of
mind
for
families
right.
There
are
a
lot
of
breakdowns
in
child
care,
even
if
you
are
lucky
enough
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
affordable,
high
quality,
child
care
right
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
triaging
sometimes
daily.
B
I
have
you
know
my
my
child
care
is
not
available,
so
I
need
to
figure
out
where,
to
put
my
kid
right,
that
backup
care
from
toyota
that
kind
of
a
benefit
is
really
helpful
for
working
families,
but
in
general
you
know
that
instability
and
stress
when
there
are
breakdowns
in
child
care
that
can
also
impact
productivity
right
so
having
affordable,
high
quality,
accessible
child
care
really
is
a
key
component
of
having
a
stable
workforce.
B
So
obviously,
the
pandemic
had
a
real
impact
on
employment
and
on
the
child
care
sector
as
well,
and
so
when
the
chamber
started
doing
the
foundation
started
doing
surveys
during
the
pandemic,
specifically
about
child
care.
B
B
That's
you
know
what
their
work
responsibilities
are
their
home
environment
finances,
obviously,
options
within
the
community
and
then
and
then
kind
of
that
family
friend
and
neighbor
option
as
well
right
and
so
solving
that
equation
is
really
important
to
solving
the
workforce,
needs
kind
of
on
the
on
the
micro
level
right,
because
that
varies
depending
on
geography
on
industry
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
Brief
was
put
together
in
the
context
of
the
pandemic,
but
it's
really
transferable
outside
of
that
context,
and
so
we've
identified
some
what
we
call
quick
wins
and
internal
investments
and
community
investments
that
can
that
employers
can
do
to
really
help
their
workforce
so
just
very
quickly.
B
An
example
of
a
quick
win
would
be
flexible
scheduling.
An
example
of
an
internal
investment
might
be
a
backup
care
benefit
and
then
community
investments
you
know,
so
it
can
range
anywhere
from
advocacy
to
you,
know,
building
public-private
partnerships
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
I
do
want
to
stress
that
all
of
these
strategies,
the
kind
of
the
broad
range
of
strategies
that
employers
can
participate
in
and
before
anyone
goes
to
that
step.
The
first
step
is
really
talking
to
employees
identifying
what
the
real
needs
are
right.
B
That
is
the
critical
first
step,
so
I
was
asked
to
give
a
snapshot
of
what's
happening
at
the
federal
level,
I'm
based
in
the
dc
area.
So,
as
you
all
I'm
sure
know,
the
child
care
and
development
block
grant
is
the
primary
federal
source
well,
the
federal
source
for
child
care
funding.
It
goes
to
states
and
formula
the
the
you
can
see
just
by
the
numbers
that
the
current
funding
levels
just
north
of
6
billion
annually.
B
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
there
was
a
really
large
increase
in
the
fiscal
year.
2018
appropriations
bill,
which
wasn't
you
know,
enacted
a
handful
of
years
ago,
but
there's
a
kind
of
an
upward
trend,
but
not
I
I
don't.
I
don't
foresee
any
kind
of
major
increases
from
the
federal
level.
B
Part
of
the
reason
I'll
go
into
in
the
next
couple
of
slides
is
that
there's
some
dissonance
when
it
comes
to
funding
democrats
have
been
pushing
for
sweeping
changes
with
significant,
very
significant
funding
increases
that
would
cover
the
cost
and
make
child
care
affordable
for
basically
every
family
in
the
country.
But
it's
a
very
expensive
proposal.
B
But
there's
some
dissonance
there
that
has
prohibited
folks
from
working
across
the
aisle
this
congress,
and
so
I
just
want
to
go
into
some
of
the
proposals.
Very
briefly,
so
folks
have
probably
heard
of
the
buildback
better
act.
This
is
the
biden
domestic
agenda
and
it
included
two
proposed
new
entitlements,
one
a
birth
to
five
child
care
system
and
the
other
universal
pre-k
for
all
three
and
four-year-olds.
B
It
would
provide
a
voucher.
It
would
link
the
voucher
amount
to
income,
so
families
making
up
to
75
percent
of
state
median
income
would
be
fully
funded,
and
then
there
was
a
there's,
a
sliding
scale
that
would
cap
at
about
two
seven
percent
of
annual
income,
and
it
would
it
would
cap
out
at
about
two
percent
of
state
median
income.
Those
numbers
are
kind
of
flexible
because
there
have
been
various
proposals,
and
so
there's
there's
some
wiggle
room
there
and
then
for
a
universal
pre-k.
B
B
B
B
These
proposals
have
not
been
neither
one
of
them
is
particularly
viable
this
congress,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
bipartisan
recognition
that
there
are
breakdowns
in
child
care
that
do
need
to
be
addressed.
B
I
will
say:
yeah
go
ahead,
that
it's
unlikely,
that
this
crisis
will
be
solved
at
the
federal
level,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
we
at
the
foundation
are
really
looking
to
support
states
in
the
work
that
they
do
right,
and
this
is
why
I'm
sitting
here
with
charles
today,
we
just
recently
established
the
early
childhood
and
business
advisory
council
and
that's
a
partnership
with
the
bipartisan
policy
center.
B
And
what
we're
doing
is
we're
looking
at
about
nine
states
and
pulling
together
child
early
childhood
advocates
and
the
business
community
so
that
they
can
work
together
to
look
and
at
what
their
unique
challenges
are
and
what
some
potential
solutions
could
be.
So
just
a
few
snapshots
of
some
some
exemplars
that
already
exist
in
2021,
we
released
an
untapped
potential
report
for
missouri
that
looks
at
the
cost
of
breakdowns
in
child
care
at
that
state
level
and
found
that
it's
about
1.3
billion
dollars
per
year.
B
In
costs,
because
of
child
care
breakdown,
whether
that's
participation
in
the
workforce,
tax
revenue
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
that
report
was
part
of
the
reason
that
the
that,
at
the
state
level,
missouri
decided
to
to
establish
a
child
care
task
force
and
to
start
promoting
innovative
solutions
to
child
care
through
what
what
they
have
right
now
is
20
million
dollars
in
funding
to
start
seeding.
Some
of
that
work
in
michigan.
B
They
established
a
pilot,
that's
that
they
call
try,
try
share,
which
is
a
cost
sharing
model
for
low-income
working
families,
so
families,
business
and
the
state
are
putting
funding
together
to
cover
the
cost
of
child
care
in
a
tri-share
model
and
in
colorado
a
ballot
initiative
was
passed
to
fund
universal
pre-k,
and
what
that
looks
like
in
colorado
is.
I
think
that
the
the
end
goal
would
be
10
hours
a
week
of
pre-k
for
sorry
within
a
mixed
delivery
system.
B
So
again,
that
kind
of
giving
the
families
options
to
send
their
kids
to
a
school
setting
or
a
child
care
or
in
home
child
care
setting
for
up
to
ten
ten
hours
a
week
and
that
would
be
targeted
at
four-year-olds
so
the
year
before
kindergarten
and
then,
of
course
kentucky.
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
all
what
you
did,
but
just
a
few
examples.
G
I'm
going
to
close
things
out
really
quickly
on
this.
I
know
we're
running
short
on
time,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
just
going
to
mention
some
of
these
policy
recommendations
very
quickly
and
then
I'm
going
to
also
sketch
them
out
in
a
more
detailed
paper
which
I
will
send
out
to
the
full
task
force.
So
you
guys
can
have
some
of
the
details
on
these,
but
very
very
quickly
in
terms
of
things
that
kentucky
chamber
would
recommend
that
this
task
force
consider
from
a
policy
perspective
first
follow
through
on
house
bill
499..
G
This
is
a
complicated
piece
of
legislation.
It's
a
new
program.
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that
we
are
carving
out
new
territory
with
that
bill.
So
it's
a
very
innovative
program.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
learning
a
lot
about
it
over
the
next
12
to
18
months,
and
what
I'd
really
encourage
legislators
to
do
is
to
dig
in
and
study
it
and
make
sure
we
get
this
thing
as
to
the
best
possible
form
that
we
can
get
it
as
this
program
develops
over
time.
G
There's
numerous
reporting
mechanisms
baked
in
to
that
piece
of
legislation,
and
I
think
those
reports
are
going
to
be
really
critical,
so
I
just
want
to
encourage
the
follow
through
on
that
legislation
ccap.
This
is
our
primary
subsidy
program
for
child
care.
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
particular
program
is
a
very
strong
pro-workforce
program
to
be
eligible
for
ccap.
You
literally
have
to
work.
There's
some
exceptions
to
that,
but
this
is
part
of
that
program.
G
We
have
received
a
lot
of
additional
federal
dollars
throughout
covid
to
support
that
program.
Those
dollars
will
go
away
and
it's
going
to
be
important
that
the
state
step
in
to
try
to
fill
some
of
those
gaps,
because
this
is
important
not
only
for
working
families
for
employers,
it's
also
very
important
for
our
providers,
who
receive
reimbursement
rates
through
the
ccap
program.
G
Third,
we
need
to
take
a
close
look
at
local
zoning,
something
that
we
need
to
encourage
localities
to
do
to
examine
how
their
local
zoning
ordinances
may
or
may
not
prohibit
the
development
or
formation
of
child
care
facilities
in
various
parts
of
their
jurisdiction.
The
city
of
louisville
did
something
similar
with
this,
but
they
undertook
a
comprehensive
study
of
their
zoning
code
to
ensure
that
there
are
certain
places
where,
if
an
employer
wanted
to
say,
establish
an
on-site
care
facility
that
there
would
be
an
option
or
a
pathway
to
do
that.
G
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
kind
of
think
about
in
all
zoning
jurisdictions
throughout
the
state
to
see
how
we
can
be
helpful
on
that.
Fourth,
the
business
partnership
grants
program:
this
is
a
grant
program
to
assist
with
the
development
of
employer-led
child
care,
so,
for
example,
on-site
child
care
solutions.
This
is
something
chffs
rolled
out,
I
believe
last
year.
That
is
something
that
again.
G
Similarly,
at
the
federal
level,
there
is
a
tax
credit
program
called
the
employer-provided
child
care
tax
credit.
It's
also,
sometimes
known
as
the
facilities
tax
credit.
This
is
a
credit
that
businesses
can
take
against
their
federal
income
tax
liability
associated
with
costs
such
as
opening
an
on-site
child
care,
contracting
child
care
services
and
also
using
child
care
resource
and
referral
agencies,
so
they
can
actually
recoup
some
of
those
expenses
through
this
tax
credit
program,
it
historically
has
not
been
a
heavily
used
tax
credit.
G
I
think
that's
going
to
change
over
time,
something
we
might
consider
in
kentucky
as
a
state
level
equivalent
to
that
tax
credit
program
as
a
way
to
incentivize
the
formation
of
more
on-site
child
care.
Finally,
going
back
to
the
issue
that
we
were
facing
with
child
care
workers,
we
do
have
a
good
tool
in
kentucky
to
at
least
partially
help
with
that
program.
Through
the
early
childhood
development
scholarship,
the
general
assembly
did
fund
that
scholarship
to
about
eight
million
dollars
in
the
previous
budget.
G
That's
something
we're
probably
going
to
want
to
continue
doing
to
support
the
formation
of
more
early
childhood
professionals.
So
that's
a
good
thing.
You
know
at
minimum
if
we
can
defray
the
cost
of
education,
that
it
takes
to
be
a
high
quality
instructor
or
at
least
receive
those
credentials.
That's
a
good
thing
for
the
state,
a
good
thing.
We
can
do
to
help
that
workforce.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
for
the
presentation.
I
do
I'm
going
to
kick
it
off
with
two
questions,
and
I
know
representative
raymond
and
chair
co-chair
care
will
have
questions
as
well.
Twyla.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation.
Once
again,
I
think
that
you're
meeting
your
workers
needs
where
they
need
to
be.
You
know
I
think
you're
meeting
them
where
they
are,
and
I
think
that's
really
astounding
for
kentucky
companies
to
do
that.
So
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
A
Do
you
all
partner
with
anyone
for
the
child
care
center
or
do
the
employees?
Are
they
part
of
the
rock
county
or
the
rock
asset
hospital.
H
A
Does
the
so
like
we
have
owensboro
health
in
grayson
county
and
I'm
on
the
foundation
the
the
foundation?
Does
the
foundation
play
a
part
in
making
sure
that
you
all
have
funding
for
that,
or
does
that
come
from
the
hospital's
everyday
expenses.
H
A
Okay,
awesome
and
then
I
have
a
question
for
charles.
What
does
missouri
consider
innovative
solutions.
A
Thank
you
and
then
I
will
give
it
over
to
representative
raymonds
that
she
was
patient
in
holding
her
question.
C
Thank
you
all.
I
have
appreciated
how
our
employers
and
our
chairs
have
both
acknowledged.
How
much
value
is
in
this
space
and
that
value
and
cost
in
this
area
don't
always
line
up,
but
the
value
is
there
and
we
know
that
employers
are
going
to
be
a
huge
part
of
solving
this
crisis
in
kentucky
and
elsewhere.
But
I
just
wanted
to
raise
a
couple
of
worries
that
I
have
and
see
how
you
all
approach
them
or
deal
with
them.
I
worry
about
someone
losing
their
job
and
their
child
care
at
the
same
moment.
C
That
would
be
a
double
whammy
that
I
think
would
make
it
nearly
impossible
to
get
back
on
steady
footing.
So
we
know
that
c-cap
might
be
available
to
someone
in
that
situation
as
they're
searching,
but
that's
not
the
same
safety
net
as
medicaid,
for
example,
in
that
situation.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
about
this
sort
of
child
care
cliff
that
could
be
created
if
someone
left
their
job.
H
I
I'll
have
to
follow
up
on
that
one,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
do
provide
some
in
between
period
before
that
that
child
is
moved,
but
you
know,
certainly
I
think
there
is
some
pressure
with
the
waiting
list
as
well
sure
to
get
children,
but
let
me
follow
up
on
that.
C
One
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
and
then
I
wanted
to
ask
about
so
you
all
both
have
have
adapted
to
the
needs
of
your
employees
and
you've
done
surveys
to
see
what
the
real
needs
are.
I
just
wanted
to
name
that
I
don't
think
child
care
has
evolved
as
quickly
as
work
has
evolved,
and
so
some
of
the
challenges
that
that
I've
encountered
in
louisville
are
folks
expressing
a
need
for
drop-in
and
facing
you
know,
regulatory
barriers
that
prevent
their
providers
from
from
offering
that
sort
of
thing.
C
And
then
can
we
meet
folks
where
they
need
help
in
terms
of
hours,
gig
workers.
You
know
folks
who
are
just
in
different
positions
like
this,
but
I
hear
that
you
all
have
been
really
have
been
as
adaptable
as
you
can
be,
and
then
we've
talked
about
workforce
quite
a
bit
today
and
and
sort
of
separate
from
the
workforce.
C
That
is
early
childhood
educators
and
I
imagine
this
task
force
will
spend
a
lot
more
time
on
the
pipeline
of
early
childhood
educators,
but
just
wanted
to
sort
of
acknowledge
that
workforce
and
I
hope
that
we
can
explore
the
opportunity
that
could
be
created
when
we
think
about
bringing
folks
into
the
workforce
who
could
be
in
a
childcare
setting
who
need
care
for
their
own
children.
C
If
I've
explained
that
charles,
I
think
we
could
unlock
a
lot
of
women's
potential
that
way.
G
Yeah,
no,
I
I
agree
with
that.
I
do
think
you
see
a
lot
of
providers
that
sort
of
bake
that
into
their
compensation
model
for
a
lot
of
their
chukka
workers.
That's
something
I
do
think
that
is
worth
exploring,
because
that
could
potentially
be
a
very
powerful
talent,
attraction
and
retention
tool.
G
But
at
the
same
time,
from
the
provider
perspective,
I
think
we
could
have
multiple
providers
tell
you.
That's
also
a
loss
financially
for
them,
because
that's
potentially
filling
a
slot
that
could
be
filled
by
you
know
a
paying
parent.
So
that's
that's
a
very
difficult
thing
for
a
provider
to
offer,
so
some
might
not
be
able
to
do
that.
But
I
agree.
I
think
that's
that's
an
important
place
to
look.
Thank
you
all.
I
And
I
think
you
probably
saw
in
our
slides
that
bright
horizons
does
allow
their
staff's
children
to
stay
there.
Yeah.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
it
the
loss
is,
and
that's
people
that
are
watching
this
and
I
think
that's
that's
at
the
base
of
of
this
task
force,
and
it
is
at
the
base
of
the
structure
issue
that
we
have
with
child
care
in
the
in
the
commonwealth
and
everywhere
it's
just
not
sustainable.
F
F
Without
the
ppec,
the
child
care
early
childhood
education,
we
lose
money
every
month.
It's
it
never
generates
revenue.
The
model
just
simply
can't
work
in
the
commonwealth.
So
we've
got
that
issue
to
deal
with
for
providers
in
trying
to
create
a
model
where
people
want
to
open
child
care
facilities
where
they
can
sustain
where
they
can
pay
their
staff.
F
We've
gone
through
various
stages
of
increasing
pay.
With
some
of
the
federal
dollars
that
came
in,
we
made
up
a
long-term
commitment.
We
do
three
five
ten-year
increases.
We
pay
more
for
degrees,
so
we've
done
all
that
it's
still
impossible
to
get
fully
staffed.
We
just
can't
do
it
and
we're
not
alone
in
that
area.
F
So
that's
another
component
of
it,
the
wages
for
staff
in
the
workforce
and
a
lot
of
good
things
going
on
in
those
areas,
but
you
know
four
basic
levels
that
we've
got
to
address
through
this
task
force
and
we've
got
to
come
up
with
some
answers:
the
chambers
proposals.
I
think
those
are
excellent
and
before
I
stop
just
quickly,
I
want
to
get
into
a
couple
of
the
issues
that
we
talked
about
with
with
toyota.
F
Did
you
all
consider
the
model
of
toyota
operating
the
facility
itself
and
being
able
to
offer
perhaps
maybe
better
benefits
that
maybe
would
have
helped
staff
that
center?
And
I
don't
want
to
get
into
too
much
too
deep
here
and
and
put
you
on
the
spot?
But
that's
you
know,
and
that's
probably
could
be
the
key
to
to
remaining
fully
staffed,
is
to
be
able
to
offer
better
benefits.
Better
pay
and
toyota,
as
a
corporation,
could
probably
do
that
much
better
than
star.
I
So
I
don't
know
that
for
a
fact,
but
if,
but
typically
that
would
be
the
approach
we
would
take
if
we
are
not
the
experts
in
a
particular
area.
But
I
hear
you,
I
understand
your
point.
If.
G
I
could
senator
carol
too
just
to
kind
of
add
some
light,
and
certainly
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
toyota
right
now,
but
in
other
conversations
that
have
employers,
one
factor
influencing
that
decision
is
often
a
liability
conversation
because
as
the
employer,
especially
if
you're
a
large
employer
and
you
take
on
an
on-site
childcare
center,
you
are
opening
yourself
up
to
potential
liability
associated
with
running
that
center.
G
I
don't
know
how
those
contracts
work
when
it
comes
to
contracting
out
that
service,
if
you
own
the
facility,
but
then
you
have
another
service
that
essentially
actually
provides
the
care
who
takes
on
that
liability
who
shares
that.
But
I
do
know
that
is
a
factor
that
comes
in
and
shaping
those
conversations.
Okay,.
G
F
I
said
bright
star,
bright
horizons.
I
apologize
the
final
question
if
we
could
just
kind
of
close
out
this,
the
school-age
sleep
room
and
I
this
concept
and
maybe
I'm
not
it,
and
I
know
you
you
could
stay
open,
24,
7
or
whatever
I
get
that
part
of
it,
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
if
you
just
offer
a
sleep
room
where
it's
not,
maybe
all
the
other
services
in
in
the
regular
regulations,
dr
van
or,
if
you
don't
mind,
could
you
come
to
the
table,
madam
chair,
if
you're?
F
Okay,
with
that,
how
does
that
work?
If
you
just
had
a
sleep
room
where
kids
would
come
in
and
sleep
overnight?
As
far
as
staffing,
all
the
other
regulations
that
child
care
has
to
address?
Is
that
something
different
or
would
they
just
be
looked
at
just
like
any
other
classroom
with
the
same
regulations?
E
You
have
to
have
a
special
permit
as
part
of
your
license
in
order
to
have
after-hour
care.
It's
not
something
that
happens
automatically
typical
child
care
is
like
6
a.m,
to
6
p.m,
or
a
little
give
and
take
on
either
side.
But
if
you
do
overnight
care,
then
there
is
an
additional
component
to
your
license.
E
There's
also
a
part
of
the
regulations
that
say
no
child
may
be
in
care
for
more
than
16
hours
at
a
time
because,
with
full
day
child
care,
you
risk
a
family
that
might
be
overwhelmed,
leaving
their
child
there,
maybe
for
more
than
a
day
or
or
things
like
that.
So
you
you
have
an
amount
of
time
that
you
have
to
make
sure
that
the
child
is
picked
up
at
toyota,
because
there
is
mandatory
overtime
on
days
when
the
production
gets
behind
it.
It
can
at
times
come
close
to
that
margin.
E
If
a
family
is
working
additional
hours,
and
so
you
you
had
to
watch
it,
but
I
never
had
a
family
that
that
went
over
that
time.
Slot
other
facilities
like
baptist
health
hospital,
avoid
that
by
having
the
parents
tell
them
in
advance
what
hours
they
will
be
there
and
then
they
have
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
at
that
time
period.
E
I
will
say
that
the
sleep
room
does
pose
some
additional
complications.
The
room
is
lovely.
It
is
beautiful,
bright
horizons
designed
that
they
are
into
aesthetics,
that
whole
center
is
gorgeous,
and
so
it
is
a
cozy
place
where
kids
come
in,
but
there
is
no
family
who
wants
their
child
to
sleep
in
a
bed
away
from
their
home
if
they
have
any
other
options,
and
so
you
open
the
facility
up
for
second
and
third
shift
a
place
like
toyota
or
their
other
bright
horizons
facilities.
E
They
have
over
a
thousand
facilities
worldwide,
at
least
they
did
prior
to
the
pandemic.
They
may
have
closed
some,
but
a
lot
of
hospitals
have
a
bright
horizons
facility
where
they
partner
with
them
johns
hopkins
different
places
where
they
attach
that
to
the
hospital
and
may
have
24-hour
care,
and
then,
of
course,
toyota
has
the
indiana
facility
and
kentucky,
but
even
if
you
work
second
or
third
shift,
if
there
is
anybody
who
can
stay
with
your
your
child
in
their
bed,
they're
going
to
take
that
option.
E
So
you
open
the
facility
and
you
attempt
to
staff
it,
and
then
you
may
have
a
very
minimal
number
of
children
that
take
advantage
of
that,
because
their
parents
want
something
different
for
them.
Those
kiddos
that
sleep
there
they
shower
there,
they
put
their
pjs
on.
You
know
they
have
a
snack
before
bedtime.
They
get
up
the
next
morning.
E
They
get
ready
for
school,
put
their
clothes
on
in
the
toyota,
we'll
even
put
them
on
the
bus
and
send
those
kids
to
school
to
make
sure
that
they
have
everything
they
need,
while
their
parents
are
working,
but
that
might
not
be
what
the
the
family
wants.
You've
heard.
Both
facilities
say
that
you
lose
a
great
deal
of
money
when
you
do
on-site
child
care
and
if
you
do
24-hour
care
after
doing
the
books
at
the
toyota
facility,
I
can
tell
you
that
most
of
the
loss
happens.
E
Second
and
third
shift
you,
you
reduce
your
staff,
but
you
still
yeah
and
and
finding
people
to
work.
Second
and
third
shift
is
very
challenging
third
shift.
You
just
have
to
find
somebody
who
will
stay
awake
in
a
dark
room
while
everyone
else
is
sleeping
and
and
and
that's
challenging
within
itself.
Second
shift
work.
E
It
I've
sat
through
so
many
interviews
trying
to
find
people
for
those
shifts
and
some
facilities
will
do
a
rate
increase
for
those
shifts
to
give
them
an
extra
bonus,
but
an
extra
50
cents
or
a
dollar
an
hour
doesn't
always
make
it
worth
it
to
work
those
those
different
hours
or
the
saturday
hours
that
for
a
production
saturday.
So
it
can
be
very
challenging
on
the
team
to
find
those
staff
members
that
you
really
need
to
to
open
that,
but
the
sleep
room
is
accessible.
E
We
have
in-home
family
providers
that
do
the
the
same
type
of
things
and
partner
with
businesses,
but
there
are
there.
Are
things
there's
a
little
more
liability
that
you
have
to
think
about
as
an
employer,
because
you
know
that
that
adult
that
is
in
that
room
is
supervising
those
kids
take
showers
at
night
and
it's
it's
a
more
intimate
setting
as
they're
getting
them
ready
for
bed,
and
things
like
that.
E
So
most
places
that
have
24-hour
child
care
have
camera
systems
as
well
to
make
sure
that,
then,
the
employee
is
not
ever
inappropriate
or
accused
of
being
inappropriate
if
they
didn't
do
anything
inappropriate.
So
there
there's
some
balance
there
as
well.
Most
of
the
people
at
the
toyota
campus
that
work
second
or
third
shift
are
the
spouses
of
somebody
who
is
working
second
or
third
shift
and
their
their
spouse
is
already
working
those
hours.
E
I
D
E
The
biggest
regulatory
issue
that
the
toyota
facility
has
to
worry
about
is
when
the
first
shift
is
ending
and
the
second
shift
begins,
because
the
first
shift
has
overtime
and
second
shift
is
coming
in
their
max
of
the
building.
I
think
is
183,
maybe
somewhere
around
there,
but
there's
over
kind
of,
like
you
were
saying,
there's
over
200
plus
kids
enrolled
because
one
is
am,
and
one
is
pm.
But
during
that
time
period,
where
first
shift
could
be
working,
overtime
and
second
shift
is
coming
in.
A
Thank
you
and
then
I'm
going
to
let
senator
thomas
ask
a
question
and
then
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
this
portion.
If
you
all,
will
please
stay
if
there
are
any
questions
after
chfs
presents?
I
would
greatly
appreciate
that
senator
thomas
the
floor
is
yours.
L
I
have
a
question
for
miss
burdette
and
miss
ms
knott,
but
before
I
ask
my
question,
I
want
to
go
back
to
something
that
representative
raymond
said
and
I'm
going
to
direct
this
to
you.
L
Mr
all,
I
agree
completely
with
what
representative
raymond
said
that
our
economy
is
changing,
that
that
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
get
workers
now
that
we
that
the
gig
economy
is
very
real
in
this
country,
and
you
know
you
have
a
lot
of
people
that
that
that
do
different
jobs
daily,
and
I
think
that
is
a
major
contributor
to
as
to
why.
We
continue
to
see
this
decline
in
the
workforce
here
in
america
and
in
this
state
as
well.
G
Yeah,
so
gig
workers
are
absolutely
counted
as
part
of
our
workforce
participation
right.
So
when
I,
when
we
look
at
those
rates,
gig
workers
are
included
in
that
they
would
not
be
considered
not
working
now.
The
way
those
surveys
work
is
that
census,
bureau
and
bureau
of
labor
statistics
partner
to
do
those
surveys
and
they
ask
them
a
standard
set
of
questions.
They
don't
ask
them.
If
you
are
employed
in
traditional
employment,
they
don't
ask
if
you
are
employed
as
a
gig
worker.
They
simply
ask
questions
related
to.
Are
you
working?
G
So
I
would
not
point
to
the
emergence
of
gig
workers
as
an
explanation
for
the
decline
in
workforce
participation.
L
Okay,
well,
that's
that's
helpful
for
me
to
know.
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
I'm
big
on
pay,
miss
noel
and
and
miss
burdette.
So
I'm
just
curious.
What
do
you
pay
your
child
care
workers?
You,
dr
van
over
mentioned
that
in
her
explanation,
so
I'm
just
curious
and
I'll
start
with
you
miss
not
because
your
your
daycare
center
is
a
bit
more
urban
I
mean
georgetown.
Is
you
know
pretty
much
right
next
to
lexington
very
much
part
of
a
urban
setting?
L
What
do
you
pay
your
your
daycare
workers
and
I'm
sure
that
varies
between
infants
as
opposed
to
to
school-age
children
and
the
same
question
for
you,
mr
burdette,
as
well
you're
a
bit
more
rural
I've
been
to
mount
vernon.
H
L
Castle
connie
quite
a
bit:
what
do
you
pay
your
workers?
I'm
curious
asked
to
answer
that
question.
I
Yeah,
as
you
mentioned,
senator
thomas,
there
is
a
range
if
you
will,
depending
on
if
they're,
like
an
admin,
support
versus
a
teacher
and
that
ranges
between
14
16
an
hour
right
now.
I
H
A
Thank
you.
We
will
go
ahead.
Thank
you
all
so
much
as
I
said,
if
y'all
don't
care
to
take
a
seat,
you
know
and
stay
for
a
few
more
minutes
just
in
case
anyone
else
has
additional
questions.
I
would
greatly
appreciate
it
and.
A
As
we
start
moving
to
chfs,
I
do
quickly
now
that
we
have
a
quorum.
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
last
month.
A
Can
I
get
a
second
all
right
and
all
in
favor
say
aye,
anyone
oppose
awesome.
The
approval
of
minutes
have
been
approved
so
last
month.
We
also
briefly
discussed
house
bill
499
and
our
previous
presenters
did
as
well
today
and
the
impact
that
it
will
have
on
child
care.
We've
asked
representatives
from
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services
to
come
today
and
give
us
an
update
on
the
implementation
of
the
employee
child
care
assistance
partnership
program.
K
D
K
Thank
you
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
present
today
before
we
really
dive
into
house
bill
499.
I
want
to
provide
some
highlights
of
things
going
on
in
child
care.
The
division
of
child
care
is
in
the
department
for
community-based
services
and
offers
lots
of
programs
related
to
child
care
and
for
child
care
providers
and
families.
K
Right
now
we
are
distributing
american
rescue
plan
act,
funds,
supplemental
payments.
If
you
will
recall
we
were
providing
stabilization
payments
through
the
pandemic.
Earlier
now
we
have
federal
funding
for
supplemental
payments.
Those
are
currently
being
used
to
provide
business
partnership
grants
you
heard
about
that
a
little
bit
earlier.
That's
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
matching
funds
for
businesses
to
establish
child
care
centers.
K
The
provider
is
receiving
the
payment
from
the
department,
it's
not
actually
going
to
the
family
or
the
child,
so
this
goes
to
the
child
care
provider.
In
this
instance,
as
of
may
2022,
there
were
15
096
families
enrolled
in
the
child
care
assistance
program,
and
this
provides
again,
partial
or
in
the
entirety
of
child
care
tuition
for
26
946
children.
K
We
also
currently
have
over
1600
providers
participating
in
this
program,
so
it's
good
for
families,
for
kids
and
for
child
care
providers.
It
gives
them
a
steady,
dependable
payment
that
they
will
receive
each
month.
So
on
this
slide,
we're
talking
about
recent
changes
in
the
child
care
assistance
program.
K
In
july
of
2021,
we
used
appropriated
general
funds
to
the
that
were
established
in
house
bill
405
to
provide
a
two
dollar
per
day
per
child
rate,
increase
to
child
care
assistance,
program,
recipients
providers,
and
then,
in
october
of
last
year,
we
used
federal
funding
to
increase
those
rates
again
to
the
80th
percentile
of
current
market
rates.
So
last
year
we
saw
two
increases
to
the
payments
that
providers
receive.
K
K
In
march
of
this
year,
we
implemented
a
new
program,
a
three-month
transitional
period
for
households
who
have
exceeded
the
income
guidelines
and
are
no
longer
eligible
for
the
child
care
assistance
program.
So
this
lets
families
and
children
receive
50
of
the
assistance
that
they
would
get
in
the
program
for
three
months
after
exceeding
that
income
threshold.
K
So
here
we
have
the
data
that
we
that
has
resulted
from
these
changes.
We
will
be
submitting
a
report
on
this
to
the
legislative
research
commission
by
september
1,
and
we
will
also
be
presenting
this
information
to
the
benefits
cliff
task
force
in
september,
but
we
wanted
to
share
with
you
what
we've
seen
already
so
from
expanding
the
eligibility
from
160
to
200
percent.
From
january
1st
to
june
30th,
an
additional
1293
children
have
been
able
to
receive
partial
or
full
tuition
coverage
for
child
care.
K
Since
beginning
the
transitional
exit
period
in
march
56
children
have
benefited
from
still
receiving
that
half
assistance
that
they
that
they
were
getting.
We
actually
had
information
on
this
up
until
mid-july
and
we
were
up
to
80
children
who
were
benefiting
from
that
transitional
period
after
exceeding
income
guidelines.
K
We
saw
that
the
changes
that
we've
made
have
had
a
really
positive
effect
for
families
and
providers,
so
we
recently
made
further
amendments
using
those
federal
funds
effective
july
1st.
We
increased
eligibility
again
this
time
from
the
200
percent
federal
poverty
level
to
85
state
median
income
according
to
the
u.s
census.
K
These
tables
show
what
that
income
looks
like
so,
for
example,
a
two
family
household,
so
say
a
single
parent
and
one
child
would
have
previously
been
cut
off
from
c-cap
eligibility
if
they
were
making
two
thousand
nine
hundred
and
three
dollars
a
month.
That
is
thirty,
four
thousand
eight
hundred
and
thirty
six
dollars
annually.
K
When
we
expanded
that
to
the
85
percent
smi,
that's
now
3743
dollars,
so
that
would
be
an
annual
income
of
forty
four
thousand
nine
hundred
and
sixteen
dollars.
So
in
this
example
of
a
single
parent
and
a
child,
we've
essentially
allowed
them
to
make
an
extra
ten
thousand
dollars
before
being
ineligible
for
child
care
assistance.
K
K
K
Now
this
is
only
in
license
centers,
so
you
will
have
smaller
child
care
providers
such
as
in-home
family,
child
care,
centers,
which
might
be
registered
or
certified,
usually
residential,
only
caring
for
a
few
children
and
they
typically
cost
less,
but
88
of
our
regular
regulated
providers
in
the
state
are
licensed
centers.
So
that's
why
we've
provided
this
information?
K
You
see
here
that,
as
you've
heard,
the
infant
toddler
care
is
more
expensive
with
preschool
and
school
age.
Child
care
costing
less
as
the
child
gets
older.
Those
child
to
adult
child
to
teacher
ratios
are
allowed
to
increase
so,
but
it's
still
630
between
630
dollars
to
750
dollars
per
child
per
month.
On
average
last
month
you
heard
dr
van
over
talk
about
when
her
children
were
little
her
child
care
costs
exceeded
her
mortgage
payment,
I'm
also
a
working
mom
in
preparation
for
this.
K
I
went
back
and
looked
at
receipts
from
when
my
children
were
little,
and
there
was
a
point
in
time
where
I
was
paying
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
for
child
care.
So
I
share
that
with
you
just
to
emphasize
that
child
care
is
a
major
part
of
a
family
working
families
finances.
K
I
mean
it's
also
a
huge
benefit
cliff.
If
you
have
a
working
family,
especially
with
more
than
one
small
children
who
are
on
the
child
care
assistance
program,
get
a
raise
and
they're
now
ineligible
for
the
program.
They
may
be
paying
one
thousand
two
thousand
dollars
more
than
they
were
when
they
were
eligible
for
the
program.
So
it's
definitely
a
major
decision
point
for
working
families,
and
this
is
where
we
get
into
house
bill,
499
just
and
the
potential
that
it
has
to
help
families
as
well.
J
So
house
bill
499,
creates
a
pilot
program
for
an
employee
child
care
assistance,
partnership
to
incentivize
employers
to
contribute
to
the
child
care
cost
of
employees.
The
costs
associated
with
child
care
on
lower
and
middle
class
families
is
significant,
making
it
one
of
the
biggest
benefit
cliff
issues
that
impact
families.
J
The
employer's
contribution
for
within
house
bill
499
will
be
matched
using
state
general
funds,
establishing
a
trust
just
for
this
program
and
the
match
is
dependent
upon
the
employee's
household
income.
The
the
house
bill,
499
implementation
timeline.
We've
outlined
a
few
of
those
a
few
major
steps
here.
We
will
be
developing
and
promulgating
the
new
regulations
outlining
the
application,
verification
and
payment
processes,
processes
and
including
a
standardized
contract
for
all
participants
and
then
we'll
begin.
J
Accepting
applications
in
april
of
2023
and
payments
begin
will
begin
being
issued
beginning
in
july
of
2023,
and
we
are
also
in
the
process
of
creating
a
within
the
department
creating
a
new
section
within
our
division
of
child
care.
That
will
work
similar.
Similarly
to
our
ccap
program
for
administering
of
house
bill.
499.
K
K
in
2019
it
sunseted
and
really
morphed
into
a
school
readiness
program,
but
it
was
funded
with
15
million
dollars
in
federal
funds.
It
created
local
partnership
boards
and
it
required
that
they
put
in
a
six
percent
match
so
that
increased
the
funding
of
the
program
and
they
encouraged
other
organizations
to
contribute
to
that
pool
of
funding
as
well,
such
as
united
way
and
goodwill
and
others.
K
They
really
targeted
families
that
were
over
that
subsidy
amount.
So
what
would
be
the
equivalent
of
our
child
care
assistance
program,
families
over
85
percent
state
median
income?
They
match
dollar
for
dollar
and
they
had
over.
500
entities
participate
with
over
17
000
children
benefiting
from
their
program.
J
We
also
did
a
peer-to-peer
call
with
wisconsin.
They
launched
an
employee
child
care
assistance
program
they
called
partner
up
earlier
this
year.
Their
program
was
funded
with
a
combination
of
federal
funds
that
included
arpa
funds,
their
preschool
development
grant
funds,
as
well
as
crisa
funds,
the
wisconsin
program
they
contracted
for
slots
between
businesses
and
providers,
specifically
for
their
their
employees,
and
that
program
also
allowed
the
op
for
the
opportunity
for
small
businesses
to
complete
a
joint
application
to
pull
their
resources
and
reserve
slots,
which
gave
them
more
flexibility
to
address
openings.
J
Wisconsin
shared
the
importance
of
marketing
and
and
getting
information
out
regarding
the
regarding
these
types
of
programs,
so
they
did
a
huge
marketing
campaign
they
received
over
600
application.
Applications
from
businesses
throughout
the
state
and
wisconsin
also
prioritized
the
applications
based
upon
small
businesses.
J
Infant
toddler
care,
child
care,
deserts
and
businesses
who
contributed
a
larger
percentage
than
the
25
percent
required,
and
also
in
wisconsin
in
preparation
for
implementation.
They
surveyed
businesses
around
the
state
relating
to
their
employees,
child
care
needs
and
their
perspectives
on
the
importance
of
child
care
to
their
businesses,
and
they
received
over
a
thousand
responses
and
64
of
those
responders
indicated
that
child
care
was
a
valuable
tool
and
recruitment
of
employees.
K
It
began
in
march
of
2021
again
each
entity
paid
a
third
of
the
cost
between
the
employer,
employee
and
the
state.
It
targeted
employees
whose
income
exceeded
the
subsidy
guidelines,
but
still
struggled
to
afford
child
care
on
their
own.
So
specifically,
this
was
households
above
200
percent
federal
poverty
level,
but
below
325
federal
poverty
level.
K
K
So
right
now
they're
undergoing
external
evaluation
of
the
program
that
those
results
will
be
shared
with
partners
as
they
talk
about
how
to
take
the
program
from
being
administered
by
local
hubs.
To
being
a
statewide
program,
so
at
this
point
we
are
planning
to
have
other
calls
with
states
and
agencies
across
the
country
who
have
had
similar
programs
and
we've
been
comparing
the
successes
and
lessons
learned.
I
have
really
enjoyed
the
calls-
and
I
always
like
to
end
by
asking
the
administrators
what
lessons
they've
learned
or
what
do
they
wish
they
had
done
differently.
K
K
They
also
said
to
distribute
the
funding
regionally
considering
labor
statistics
so
again,
so
not
all
of
the
funding
of
this
program
would
go
to
one
or
two
large
cities
for
wisconsin.
You
heard
that
they
ranked
their
applications,
which
I
also
thought
was
very
interesting.
They
put
that
ranking
criteria
on
their
website
in
advance,
so
that
businesses
would
know
what
they
wanted
to
incentivize
and
prioritize
some
incentivize
quality
child
care,
such
as
providers
participating
in
programs
like
our
all-stars
program
and
finally,
michigan
very
interesting.
K
They
said
that
they
found
that
their
biggest
obstacle
was
that
their
program
was
only
a
pilot.
They
said
businesses
were
very
reluctant
to
invest
in
the
program
and
if
they
didn't
know
for
sure
that
the
program
was
going
to
stay
in
existence
or
and
provide
their
share
of
the
money
continually.
So
I
thought
that
was
very
interesting.
Lessons
learned.
J
So
future
actions
we
are
in
the
preliminary
stages
of
drafting
new
regulations
and
the
contract,
and
we
will
be
working
very
closely
in
collaborat,
collaborating
with
our
stakeholders,
including
the
chamber
and
the
cabinet
for
economic
development
and
other
other
key
stakeholders
across
the
state.
J
We
are,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
creating
a
new
section
to
perform
administrative
functions
related
to
implementation
and
ongoing
operations,
and
then
a
marketing
campaign
will
be
working
to
develop
a
marketing
campaign,
including
both
internal
and
external
strategies,
and
working
again
with
our
partners
on
what
that
looks
like
developing
materials,
social
media
campaigns,
as
well
as
webinars
town
halls,
information
on
our
websites
and
you
know
other
other
opportunities
as
well,
because
we
have
heard
again
the
importance
of
getting
the
the
word
out
and
and
and
spreading
information
about
the
new
programs
and
and
the
opportunities
available
for
employers
and
then
employ
employers
and
employees
and
then,
of
course,
making
changes
as
needed
and
permitted
through
the
regulatory
process.
J
With
our
implementation
plan,
beginning
plans,
beginning
in
spring
and
summer
2023
and
before
we
close.
We
just
want
to
take
a
minute
to
acknowledge
the
importance
of
this
program
and
others
like
it.
Everyone
here
recognizes
the
importance
of
child
care
as
an
economic
development
tool
and
and
child
care
is
just
that,
but
it's
also
it's
also
so
much
more.
The
availability
of
affordable
and
quality
child
care
contributes
to
the
overall
well-being
of
our
communities
within
the
commonwealth.
J
Nationally,
we
are
learning
more
and
more
every
day
about
the
impacts
of
economic
supports,
such
as
child
care
and
how
they
contribute
to
the
overall
well-being
of
families
and
children.
In
a
study
completed
by
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
in
november
of
2021,
it
found
that
for
each
thousand
dollar,
states
spent
on
benefits
benefit
programs
per
person's
living
in
poverty.
There
was
an
associated
reduction
of
four
percent
in
substantiated
findings
of
child
maltreatment.
J
Child
care
was
one
of
those
economic
supports
identified
within
that
study,
and
again
I
mentioned
that
here
again
today
just
to
highlight
the
importance
of
child
care
as
an
economic
driver
and
support,
but
also
an
overall
community
well-being,
support
for
our
families
and
children
living
in
kentucky.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
to
katie
smith.
D
Thank
you.
Yes,
we're
excited
about
this
program,
we're
looking
forward
to
collaborating
with
with
chfs
on
it,
and
we
really
consider
this
kind
of
another
tool
that
we'll
be
able
to
use
in
trying
to
market
the
state
of
kentucky.
We
want
to
reach
out
to
all
of
our
existing
employers.
Existing
businesses
make
sure
they're
aware
of
this
program
and
how
they
can
access
it,
and
then
also
we'll
use
this
when
we're
working
with
new
locations
and
attractions
of
projects.
D
A
A
A
So
you
know
if
there
are
questions,
comments
or
things
that
need
to
be
cleaned
up,
please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
charles
and
I
would
both
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
and
mandy
simpson
behind
you
with
metro
united
way.
It
is
kind
of
our
baby,
it's
our
brainchild,
and
so
we
would
be
happy
to
work
with
you
all
on
that.
So
please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
with
any
with
any
concerns
on
that.
A
I
think
one
of
my
biggest
questions
is
for
the
when
you're
talking
about
creating
a
new
division.
I
do
have
a
little
concern
with
that.
You
know
the
administrative
costs
are
five
percent
the
first
year
and
three
percent
the
second
year.
Have
you
all
looked
at
also
the
consideration
of
having
a
third
party
administrate
this,
because
we
did
put
language
in
there
that
would
make
it
flexible,
and
I
just
say
that
just
knowing
the
cost
of
what
it
is
to
hire
a
state
employee
with
a
pension
and
everything
included.
A
J
Well,
it
will
be
a
section
within
our
division
of
child
care,
so
we
already
have
the
division
established
and
then
we
would
create
a
smaller
section
of
employees
to
administer
the
program.
Similarly
to
our
as
we
do
as
of
our
ccap
program,
so
we
already-
and
we
can
also-
I
think
you
know
part
of
our
our
process.
Our
thoughts
around
that
was.
We
can
also
tap
into
other
administrative
supports
that
are
already
there
within
that
division.
J
To
help
support
that
section,
we
we
did
and
that's
no
no
final
decision
has
been
made
just
yet
we
are
considering
all
options,
but
the
you
know
the
procurement
process
we're
concerned
about
getting
that
getting
something
through
and
approved
in
a
timely
manner.
So
at
this
point
well
felt
like
it
was
probably
our
best
option
would
be
to
build
that
in-house.
K
We
do
appreciate
that
one
of
the
states
that
we
spoke
to
said
they
had
six
percent
administrative
costs
and
it
was
definitely
not
enough
spoke
so
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
you
with
updates.
We
do
plan
on
modeling
it
after
our
child
care
assistance
program,
so
we
will
be
happy
to
keep
you
updated
on
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
before
we
open
it
up
to
the
full
room
of
questions
and
we've
got
like
10
minutes
to
wrap
up
chairman
carol.
J
So
we
are
like,
as
we
mentioned,
we
are
working
on
a
we
will
be
developing
a
marketing
campaign,
but
again
webinars
and
town
halls
will
be
a
big
part
of
that
to
help
educate
the
business
community
and
then
again,
partnering
with
our
partners
with
the
chamber
and
with
with
the
cabinet
for
economic
development,
will
be
key
strategies
in
getting
their
expertise.
D
So
we've
been
talking
about
that
as
well.
We're
currently
rolling
out
the
kentucky
product
development
initiative,
thanks
to
you
all
and
this
past
session,
and
so
we
were
talking
about
you
know:
we've
got
email,
addresses
contact
information
such
as
the
chamber
and
so
we'll
likely
you
know,
webinars.
D
We
did
host
a
couple
of
webinars
on
that
program
on
the
14th
and
the
21st
of
this
month,
and
we've
also
talked
about
recording
those
webinars
creating
a
website
so
that
if
they
can't
participate,
so
we
truly
have
already
been
kind
of
talking
about
planning
for
marketing
the
program.
Having
a
website
put
the
materials
on
there
and
getting
the
word
out
in
advance
to
the
communities
and
businesses
to
let
them
know
hey.
D
K
Other
states
did
do
it
differently,
but
they
were,
I
mean
the
the
pool
did
increase
enormously
when
they
allowed
others
to
contribute
to
it,
so
that
that
definitely
was
an
interesting
part.
They
still
contributed,
though,
and
again
some
with
federal
funds
and
some
with
general
funds
michigan
and
going
from
their
pilot
to
statewide.
They
they
requested
and
received
a
large
appropriation
to
do
so.
So
you
know
states
do
it
differently,
but
it
seems
to
be
pretty
well
received
when
you
have
multiple
yeah
sources:
funding,
okay,.
F
K
F
And-
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
program
to
help
that
segment
of
parents
that
fall
within
that
range,
but
it
it
still
concerns
me
that
we're
creating
more
demand
when
we
don't
have
the
supply
for
what
we
have
and
along
those
lines
with
with
the
grants
that
have
been
available
to
to
help
open
new
child
care
facilities.
Do
you
all
have
any
updated
numbers
on
how
many
new
facilities
in
the
last
few
months.
K
Right
three
from
the
business
partnership
grant
in
two
different
counties.
We
have
15
for
the
child
care
desert
grants
16
for
the
family,
child
care,
grant,
sorry
and
16
for
the
family,
child
care
grants
in
eight
different
counties.
F
K
Yes,
michigan
did
cite
that.
That
was
another
burden
to
them.
I
think
it's
44
percent
of
their
stay
as
a
child
care
desert,
and
so
just
to
remind
everyone.
That's
a
national
term
for
an
area
that
does
not
have
enough
child
care
per
children
based
on
population
kentucky
is
about
50
percent
child
care
desert.
So
they
did
cite
that
being
a
burden
that
they
hadn't
anticipated
when
they
first
started
their
program.
So.
F
F
So
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
careful
of
that
balance
to
make
sure
that
that
the
money
is
is
spent
properly
and
whatever
we
decide,
and
you
know
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
some
ask
at
the
end
of
this,
so
you
know
that
that
was
a
concern.
F
I
think
the
bill
was
a
great
idea,
but
I
was
just
a
little
hesitant
when,
when
we
just
don't
have
enough
providers
at
this
point
to
to
create
more
demand,
so
you
know,
I
think
that's
really
got
to
be
a
a
large
part
of
the
discussion
is
that
we
invest
in
improper
balance
through
those
those
three
areas.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
Yes,
thank
you
katie.
I
was
interested
to
hear
you
say
that
you
know
house
bill.
499
could
be
used
to
attract
employers
to
kentucky.
I
think
you're
right
about
that,
but
I
think
the
money's
going
to
get
gobbled
up
by
kentucky
employers
we've
got
and
used
by
kentucky
employees,
which
is
great
so
chairwoman.
I
think
we're
going
to
need
another
bucket
to
attract
some
folks
from
out
of
state
and
the
katie.
I
also
wanted
to
ask
you
if
you
know
anything
about
a
potential
child
care
center
going
into
the
ford
blue
oval
plant.
D
A
I
also
have
vested
interest
in
that,
so
I
would
appreciate
to
be
included
on
that
as
well
katie.
That
is
my
new
district
and
it's
been
a
big
conversation.
A
Any
more
questions
from
members
I'm
going
to
wrap
this
up.
I
do
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
at
the
tables
today.
Thank
you
all
so
much
we're
just
running
short
on
time.
So
if
there
are
questions,
make
sure
to
follow
up
with
each
other
and
ask
any
questions
while
we're
all
here
in
the
room
together,
it
just
won't
be
televised
on
ket.
A
I
do
want
to
say
I'm
very
glad
that
the
cabinet
is
here
at
the
table.
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
and
push
back
during
session.
They
did
stay
neutral
on
the
bill,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
of
how
it
was
going
to
happen.
So
I
appreciate
the
added
you're
also
changed
attitude
and
and
being
so
willing
to
work
on
it.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that
and
coming
to
the
table
today.
A
F
Yeah
and
katie,
I'm
sorry,
I
something
that
that
a
lot
of
thought
is
has
gone
into
and
I'm
curious
with
the
cabinet.
How
is
this
subject
approached
with
with
new
business
and
industry
looking
to
locate?
Is
it?
Is
it
common
for
the
discussions
with
folks
coming
in
or
or
what
role
does
does
child
care
play
in
the
cabinet?
At
this
point,.
D
So
we,
when
we're
working
with
companies
on
potential
projects
and
locations
or
even
expansions,
there's
a
lot
of
different
discussions
we
get
into,
we
get
into
utilities,
we
get
into
workforce,
so
this
could
come
up
with
workforce.
It
can
also
come
up
with
quality
of
life.
We
all
we
were
sharing
about
the
educational
systems
in
those
areas
and
communities,
but
we
also
as
part
of
that
we're
also
talking
about
the
day
care
systems
and
child
care
child
care
systems
available.
D
So
that
is
something
we
use
when
we're
working
to
to
kind
of
pitch
that
community
for
a
location
and
also
we
work
with
our
community
partners
that
are
when
they're
presenting
to
have
them
focus
on
things
like
that
as
well.
So,
yes,
this
topic
is
and
a
lot
of
our
different
meetings
with
site
visits
on
projects
that
are
either
expanding
or
considering
new
locations
here
in
kentucky.
F
D
As
I
mentioned,
I
think
it
can
it's
another
tool
that
we'll
have
in
our
toolbox
to
be
able
to
share,
I
think,
depends
on
the
different
companies
that
some
may
be
very
attracted
to
it.
Some
it
may
not
go
much
into
the
discussion
they
a
lot
of
times.
They
have,
they
base
their
decisions
on
their
locations
and
their
expansion
projects
on
different
things.
D
We
had
one
one
actually
tell
us
that
they
came
back
to
a
community
here
in
kentucky
for
a
surprise,
visit
didn't
have
us
participate
and
the
deciding
factor
was
when
they
actually
got
out
of
the
car.
The
mayor
and
the
local
economic
developers
saw
them
outside
the
window
went
out,
greeted
them
welcomed
them,
and
they
said
that
was
their
deciding
factor
was
that
how
friendly
the
community
was
and
coming
out
so
there's
so
many
different
decisions
that
go
into
that
or
factors
that
go
into
that
decision.
D
It's
really
it's
work,
it's
kind
of
the
workforce
as
they've
as
we've
heard
mostly
today.
It's
truly
going
to
help
open
up
the
workforce
and
try
and
help
get
more
people
involved
in
the
workforce
and
that
right
now,
if
you
talk
to
any
of
your
businesses
in
your
communities,
I
think
that
is
their
number
one
topic
and
point
for
discussion,
and
so
I
think
we
will
try
to
use
this
as
an
advantage
to
try
to
help
show
that
we
ca.
F
D
D
You
also
created
the
rural
hospital
loan
program
and
we
already
collaborate
with
chfs
on
that
program.
So
we
do
a
lot
of
cross-collaboration
as
it
is
with
chfs,
especially
because
they're
the
expertise
in
this
area.
So
whenever
we
have
a
potential
project
in
the
healthcare
industry,
we
may
reach
out
to
talk
to
them
about
it.
A
It's
okay,
thank
you
and
representative
raymond.
I
did
a
quick
check
and
you
just
have
to
work
in
kentucky.
You
don't
have
to
live
in
kentucky,
because
we
were
trying
to
look
at
attracting
people
from
border
counties
that
could
that
work
here
and
the
kids
to
utilize
the
program.
So
you
just
have
to
work
in
kentucky
to
receive
the
house
bill.
499
incentive,
okay,
motion
to
adjourn.