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From YouTube: PVA Task Force
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PVA Task Force meeting located in room 171 of the Annex.
Live Stream provided by LRC Staff
A
Okay,
we'll
we'll
call
the
meeting
to
order.
We
do
have
a
few
announcements
prior
to
the
roll
call.
Some
committee
meetings,
some
committee
members
have
joined
us
from
locations
outside
the
room
and
I'd
just
like
to
remind
you.
When
you
join
the
meeting
remotely
your
microphone
will
automatically
be
muted.
A
Please
unmute
your
microphone
in
order
to
respond
to
the
roll
call
and
for
our
legislative
committee
members,
if
you're
attending
remotely,
in
addition
to
responding
regarding
your
presence,
please
also
indicate
whether
you're
in
frankfurt
or
outside
frankfurt
for
your
travel
voucher
purposes
and
then
after
responding
to
the
roll
call.
Please
return
your
microphone
to
mute,
and
with
that
I
would
ask
madam
secretary
to
call
the
roll.
B
A
Okay
looks
like
we
do
have
a
quorum,
so
we'll
get
started
with
the
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
last
meeting.
A
All
in
favor
aye
all
opposed
motion
passes.
Okay,
I'd
like
to
make
a
few
announcements
prior
to
the
presentation.
We
do
have
three
representatives
today
from
the
pbas
and
we've
also.
I
want
to
also
reach
out
and
tell
acknowledge
mr
crawford
from
revenue
for
participating
this
and
being
a
member.
We
we
do
appreciate
that
and
it's
very
important
so,
but
we
do
have.
We
have
jeff
kelly
from
the
pva
from
webster
county.
A
We
have
rachel
foster,
which
is
the
pva
of
davies
county,
and
we
have
cindy
martin,
which
is
pba
of
boone
county,
and
our
staff
are
here
in
the
meeting
room
and
we'll
be
monitoring
the
chat
functions.
So
if
you're
attending
remotely-
and
you
have
a
question-
we
ask
that
you
use
the
the
chat
button
and
art
staff
will
help
us
when
you,
when
you're
recognized
for
your
questions,
please
unmute
your
microphone
and
proceed
with
your
question
and
then
always
remember
to
return
your
microphone
to
mute
when
when
your
business
is
finished.
D
Thank
you,
senator
representative
bridges,
I'm
glad
to
be
in
part
of
this
and
am
looking
forward
to
us
working
together
on
some
issues.
How
do
you
want
me
to
do
this?
Do
you
want
me
to
share
my
screen
for
my
powerpoint,
or
is
it
up
there.
D
All
right,
I
was
noticing
that
the
duties
of
this
task
force
were
to
try
to
reduce
redundancy
and
increase
efficiency,
improve
processes,
increase,
cost
savings
and
create
uniformity.
D
D
Pop
up
my
all
right,
I
am
jeffrey
d
kelly,
I'm
the
property
evaluation
administrator
in
webster
county
kentucky.
I
have
been
here
since
december
6th
of
1993..
I've
really
enjoyed
this
position,
it's
a
challenging
position.
I
know
that
one
time
me
and
denise
harper
had
a
conversation,
and
she
said
I
wouldn't
want
your
jurisdiction.
I
said.
Well,
I
sure,
would
want
your
jurisdiction.
D
Now
all
counties
are
different.
They
have
different
workloads,
different
ways
of
doing
things.
As
far
as
my
employees
go,
it's
a
pva
plus
three
full-time
employees.
Under
a
fed
calculation.
My
office
has
3.49
positions
and
dor
uses
three
of
those
positions
that
we
feel
as
full-time
positions
with
benefits.
I'm
a
grade
14
county
based
on
population
square
miles,
certified
assessment
and
the
fat
calculation.
We
took
into
consideration
more
than
just
the
population
square
miles
of
certified.
Excuse.
B
A
Okay,
can
we
pull
it
up?
Yeah
I'll,
tell
you
what
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
have
to
share
yours
from
here,
so
we'll
pull
it
up
and
then
follow
along
with
you.
Give
us
just
a
minute,
I'm
sorry
for
the
delay
a
few
technical
difficulties,
but
during
that
time
senator
mills
will
be
our
entertainment.
A
But
webster.
B
So,
mr
kelly,
if
you'll
just
let
me
know
when
to
to
advance
the
screen
I'll,
do
that,
for
you.
B
A
D
On
the
page,
I
I
had
advanced
to
slide
two
to
address
the
issues.
A
number
of
employees.
B
D
All
right-
and
I
had
talked
about
us
being
a
grade
14
county
based
on
certain
criteria,
the
fat
calculation
expanded
that
criteria
and
it
considered
partial
count.
Demographics
vehicle
count.
The
number
of
tangible
returns
that
county
processes
every
county
is
unique.
You've
got
some
counties
that
are
agricultural,
some
that
were
mining,
some
that
are
manufacturing.
D
That's
one
of
the
difficulties
of
trying
to
come
up
with
a
true
uniformity
is
because
each
county
is
unique
and
different.
Going
to
the
next
slide.
Our
office
procedures
issues,
our
local
offices
are
charged
with
certain
duties
that
we
have
to
follow
being
constitutional,
statutory
and
recommended
guidelines
for
revenue.
D
I
think
that
the
important
point
here
is:
we
need
to
involve
our
people.
We
need
to
bring
them
on
board
active.
We
need
to
show
them
duties
in
a
clear
and
concise
manner
and
what
the
outcome
is
going
to
be,
what
the
results
going
to
be.
D
If
we
use
high
performance
leadership
and
get
our
people
on
board,
I
think
that
if
everybody
sees
the
end
result,
it
would
be
a
better
quality
assessment
role
and
more
timely
matter.
If
everybody
knows
their
role
and
what
they're
supposed
to
do,
I
understand
you
guys
are
going
to
visit
the
tax
calendar,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
could
do
is
expand
on
our
kentucky
property
tax
counter
to
include
those
items
in
between
those
functions
and
tasks
that
we
have
to
accomplish.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
try
to
do
is
not
do
double
work.
Redundancy
and
a
good
example
is
if
you
plan
your
quad
work
and
your
field
work
where
you
lay
out
this
is
where
we're
going
today.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
pick
up
and
decrease
the
amount
of
road
mileage
and
road
expense
windshield
time
to
where
that
you've
got
your
routes
laid
out
where
you
can
just
pick
up
a
property
pick
up
a
property
pick
up
a
property
where
it
just
flows.
D
It
takes
a
lot
less
time,
a
lot,
less
expense
if
you
do
a
little
planning
on
the
front
again.
Next
thing
record
keeping
record
keeping.
Of
course,
we're
guided
by
by
statutes
and
guidelines
for
storing
public
records.
Available
storage
space
is
different
in
every
county,
most
counties
they're
crunched
for
storage
space.
They
ran
out,
they
have
years
and
years
of
archived
records
that
they
may
not
have
went
in
and
purged
some
of
those
rivers
they
could
have.
Storage
spaces
are
often
not
the
ideal
place
to
store
stuff
they're
damp
they're.
F
D
You
get
rodent
infestations,
different
things
in
there
heat
that
will
ruin
the
records.
I
think
for
record
keeping.
We
need
to
make
a
move
toward
keeping
those
records
digitally
where
they
can
be
recalled
in
a
more
expedient
manner.
If
anybody's
ever
went
looking
for
a
piece
of
paper
and
a
dozen
bankers
boxes
on
the
fourth
floor
of
the
building
that
that
can
be
pretty
difficult
to
find.
Sometimes
next
slide
staff,
training
policies
and
issues,
I
think
each
county
does
this
different.
My
county
has
always
used
a
mentoring
process.
D
We
pull
somebody
in
we
work
with
them.
We
utilize
the
kentucky
department
of
revenues,
education
and
research
branch,
that's
where
they
can
be
sent
to
take
courses
hear
other
people
talk
about
the
krs's
that
apply
and
what
can
be
done.
Smaller
counties,
our
employees
are
cross-trained
for
many
different
tasks
in
larger
counties.
You
might
have
personality
as
mapping.
All
they
do
is
vehicles
all
they
do
is
tangible
returns
in
our
county.
We
have
to
train
employees
to
do
more
than
one
tax
and
that's
very
difficult.
It
takes
time
to
train
somebody.
In
now.
D
We
do
have
a
six-month
probationary
incentive
where,
if
a
person
comes
in-
and
they
do
well
their
first
six
months,
they're
eligible
for
an
increment
in
pay
that
would
compensate
them
for
learning
their
job
in
an
expedient
manner
where
they
can
fall
right
in
and
be
a
a
useful
employee
as
far
as
contributing
to
the
everyday
workload
of
the
office.
D
D
There
are
many
products
out
there
that
can
make
it
work
more
efficiently
and
save
time,
but
there's
also
a
cost
and
benefit
that
must
be
considered.
Are
we
getting
our
money's
worth
out
of
what
we've
spent
on
this?
Now
my
office
uses
pvd-net
it's
a
cloud-based
program.
It's
the
newest
product
from
utilities,
technology.
D
A
lot
of
the
counties
use
pvp
manage
which
is
housing
locally.
In-House
mine
is
on
the
cloud
and
it's
backed
up
by
pvd.
We
use
coupons
for
websites.
Cute
public
has
been
great.
It's
got
a
format
that
most
people
are
familiar
with.
They've
got
it
where
you
can
use
your
same
username
and
password
and
have
roles
for
different
counties
subscriptions
everybody.
B
D
We
choose
the
programs
our
office
can
best
afford,
and
other
agencies
are
providing
standardized
software,
and
I
think
that's
where
you
get
the
uniformity
between
the
circuit,
clerks
and
county
clerks
and
different
ones
is
because
their
tasks
are
so
similar
that
they
can
put
them
all
on
the
same
same
software,
ours,
a
lot
of
times
is
based
on
what
our
workload
is,
what
we
can
afford
to
buy.
So
that's
where
you
come
up
with
some
of
the
issues
of
uniformity.
D
D
133
120
spells
out
who
can
represent
a
property
owner
on
protest
and
appeal
of
a
property
for
a
commission
for
it
for
faith,
and
we've
had
more
frequent
tax
representatives
that
have
came
to
the
forefront
to
represent
properties,
owners
on
tax
protests
and
appeals.
Oftentimes,
these
representatives
are
working
on
a
contingency
fee
basis.
D
D
But
many
of
these
individuals
that
come
forward
are
an
advocate
purely
an
advocate
for
the
property
owner
and
their
their
pay
is
based
on
a
percentage
of
the
tax
savings
for
this
year
and
possibly
even
future
years
now
the
carriages
identified.
Those
people
who
could
represent
a
property
owner
and
officers
should
make
sure
that
the
person
who
they're
talking
to
let's
make
this
krx
for
representing
property
arm.
We
want
the
assessments
to
be
right.
D
Talking
about
like
walmart
and
and
maybe
kmart
or
tractor
spy
levels,
something
like
that,
but
between
between
the
big
box
stores,
the
apartment
owners
and
the
triple
net
lease
properties,
which
includes
a
big
wide
variety
of
fast
food
chains
and
different
types
of
retail
stores.
D
You
know
we're
probably
talking
about
50
billion
dollar
state
line
and
if
we
split
the
assessments
on
those,
you
talk
about
25
billion
times
the
1
effective
tax
rate,
it's
250
million
dollars.
D
So
we
need
to
take
these
protests
and
appeal
seriously
make
sure
that
people
we're
conferencing
with
are
qualified
and
that
we
are
truly
thinking
what
is
the
fair
cash
value
or
agricultural
value
of
the
property
based
on
our
constitution
and
our
statutes
on
the
next
page,
we
did
some
cleanup.
A
few
years
ago
we
had
some
out-of-state
appraisers
that
wanted
to
come
here,
acting
as
an
appraiser
represent
property
owners
on
protests
and
appeals,
but
they
didn't
want
to
get
a
license
here.
D
So
larry
disney
was
the
kentucky
real
estate
appraisal
board,
assisted
us
in
language.
To
where
that
we
addressed
that
now
the
krs
133
starts
out
with
an
attorney.
It
really
should
read
a
kentucky
license
attorney
I
was
talking
with
andrew
powell
in
henderson.
County
andrew
is
an
attorney.
He
felt
like
that.
This
was
a
little
broad.
This
could
be
misleading
and
may
encourage
unauthorized
practice
of
law.
That's
inconsistent
with
kentucky
licensing
laws
for
attorneys
a
certified
public
accountant.
D
F
D
D
I
think
that
would
make
it
a
little
more
easy
to
read
on
the
next
slide,
an
employee
of
the
property
owner
salary,
employee,
who
is
there
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
the
next
one,
a
licensed
or
certified
kentucky
real
estate
appraiser,
and
we
stepped
that
down
and
had
another
one
that
was
a
person
who
obtained
a
temporary
practice
permit
or
reciprocal
license
with
the
state
of
kentucky.
That
was
a
licensed
certified
appraiser
in
another
state.
D
Now
there
was
a
the
last
one
said:
any
person
who
possesses
a
professional
appraisal,
designation
as
approved
by
the
department.
Well,
I
think
the
previous
two
covered
appraisers,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
that
one,
but
I
would
like
to
get
with
somebody
to
sponsor
some
kind
of
legislation
where
we
can
do
a
clean
up
of
this
list,
where
the
list
has
qualified
people
that
come
to
the
table.
That
can
work
with
us
that
are
knowledgeable
and
we
can
get
these
assessments
right.
D
Protester
appeals
by
representatives
should
be
by
individuals
familiar
with
property
evaluation
and
our
kentucky
revised
statutes,
but
a
lot
of
times
we'll
get
these
protests
and
appeals
in
and
it'll
be
a
date.
That's
different
than
our
effective
date
of
assessment,
it'll
be
for
a
purpose
that
is
different
than
the
purpose
of
the
assessment
or
a
function
is
different
than
the
function
of
the
assessment,
and
when
we
get
those
in
it
makes
you
question
you
know,
is
the
intended
use
of
this
valuation
consistent
with
our
kentucky
laws
for
property
assessments.
D
D
D
My
position
has
always
been
that
a
portion
of
the
state
rate
could
be
earmarked
for
funding
the
pva
offices
as
an
income
producing
arm
of
the
state
government.
And
additionally,
we
have
a
lot
of
special
districts
that
have
excess
funds.
They've
got
more
than
a
year's
appropriation
set
aside
and
carryover,
and
I
think
they
should
share
in
the
expense
of
paying
for
the
work
that
we
do.
D
D
A
Okay,
mr
kelly,
I
I
want
to
I'll
start
off
because
first
I
want
to
thank
you.
I
know
I
talked
to
my
pva
officer
yesterday
and
he
was
singing
your
praises
for
the
help
you've
given
him,
especially
on
farm
exemptions
and
farm
appraisals
and
everything
on
agricultural
land.
He
said,
you've
been
a
great
asset
and
he
asked
me
to
tell
you
that
and
since
you're,
not
here
in
person,
I
I
want
to
tell
you.
A
We
appreciate
that
it's
been
a
great
help
to
him
and
and
your
suggestions
are
right
right
in
line
with
several
that's
been
mentioned
in
the
past
meeting.
I
see
that
senator
nemes
has
a
question
I'll
turn
it
over
to
him.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
You
mentioned
something
about
recordkeeping
had
we
talked.
D
My
records
are
housed
here
locally.
I've
never
been
approached
about
or
thought
about.
You
know
sending
stuff
to
state
library
and
archives
where
they
could
archive
that
information
most
most
time.
If
it
had
to
be
recalled,
it
would
probably
need
to
be
recalled
here
locally,
but
I'm
sure
we
can
retrieve
libraries
and
archives
as
well
just
a
suggestion.
You
brought
that
up
so,
okay,
thank
you.
B
Co-Chair
mills
jeff
good
to
see
you.
How
are
things
in
the
world
today
a
couple
questions
for
you.
I,
like
your
suggestion
with
the
krs
and
we'll
probably
incorporate
that
into
some
of
our
findings.
You
mentioned
the
appeals
board
and
do
you
know
if
the
is
the
state
appeals
board
up
and
functioning
now
or
do
they
just
have
hearings
twice
a
year?
Or
can
you
give
us
an
update
on
how
that's
functioning
right
now.
D
At
this
point,
we
went
from
the
kentucky
board
of
tax
bills
to
the
claims,
commission,
and
things
are
going
through
the
claims
commission,
I'm
not
sure
what
their
schedule
is.
I
know
there's
been
some
talk
about
possibly
separating
back
out
the
kentucky
board
of
tax
appeals
as
a
hearing
body
that
can
hear
these
state
appeal
cases
out.
You
know,
outside
of
going
through
the
claims
commission.
B
So
as
far
as
this
year
has
there
been
any
hearings
today
this
this
year
in
2020
that
you
know
of.
D
I'm
sure
there
has
I'm
sure,
there's
some
carryover
cases
from
other
counties.
I
didn't
have
one,
but
they
they're
usually
reviewing
cases
you
know
year-round
because
with
us
all
being
on
the
same
calendar,
all
these
state
appeals
here
at
the
same
time,
they
can't
reasonably
hear
all
of
it
once
sometimes
they
get
staggered
throughout
the
year.
B
I
thought
I
had
another
question
here:
can
you
expand
on
the
tax
calendar
again?
What
you
think
needs
to
needs
to
occur
there.
D
Well,
we
have
a
you
know:
an
abbreviated
tax
calendar,
but
there's
functions
and
tasks
that
we
do
in
between
those.
And
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
a
comprehensive
tax
calendar
for
just
the
pva
offices
and
revenue
to
work
with
to
where
it
gives
us
a
better
roadmap
of
what
we
need
to
do
and
when
we
need
to
do
it.
B
D
Make
sure
that
these
tasks
get
done
in
a
timely
manner
and
of
course
you
guys
are
focused
more
on
just
the
main
dates,
but
there's
little
things
we
do
in
between
that.
I
felt
like
we
need
to
possibly
come
up
with
something
to
get
around
the
same
page
right
now.
Your
average
pba
in
kentucky
has
just
a
little
over
10
years
experience
when
I
come
in.
It
was
a
little
over
20
years
experience,
so
we've
got
a
relatively
young
group
and
it
would
be
beneficial
to
me
even
as
the
old
guy.
C
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
if
staff
could
put
together
some
numbers
for
us
kentucky
board
tax
appeals
years
ago.
There
was
a
tremendous
backlog
in
those
hearings
and
when
the,
when
the
cases
have
not
been
heard,
the
taxes
are
paid
on
the
property
owner's
opinion
of
value
and
it
stays
that
way
until
the
case
is
appealed.
A
Okay
with
that
jeff,
if
you're
going
to
stay
on
the
line
we
may,
if
we
have
additional
questions
later
on,
we
we
may
come
back
to
you,
but
we're
going
to
move
on
to
miss
rachel
pence
foster
from
daviess
county.
Who
is
an
ska
which
I
have
no
idea
what
that
means.
But
I'll
ask
you
to
explain
that
for
me,
pva,
so
miss
foster
the
floor
is
yours.
E
F
A
Okay,
thank
you
now.
Can
you
do
you
want
to
try
to
share
your.
E
E
E
E
I
included
just
a
few
statistics
about
davis
county.
I
thought
it
was
important.
A
total
equalized
assessment
is
a
little
lower.
I
estimated
because
I
haven't
got
my
certification
yet,
but
it
is
actually
a
little
over
eight
million
assessed
values
on
motor
vehicles
and
boats,
757
million.
A
What
you
you
got
muted,
so
go
back
to
right
after
the
boats.
We
did
not
get
the
parcels.
E
E
So
I
wanted
to
address
each
of
the
questions
that
you
had
in
the
in
the
memo.
So
basic
information
I
have
nine
and
a
half
employees.
We
are
funded
for
12..
This
does
not
include
the
pva,
so
the
9.5
does
not
include
myself.
The
office
receives
a
vacancy
credit
for
the
sacrifice:
2.5
possession,
2.5
positions,
this
credit
helps
pay.
The
shortfall
bill
and
raises
these
raises
are
necessary
in
davis
county
in
order
to
retain
educated
employees.
So
it
is
very
necessary
because
I
have
a
big
gis
department.
I
need
trained
gis
technician.
E
E
E
The
training
on
the
job
and
classes
given
by
department
of
revenue,
I
feel
these
classes
are
informative
and
directly
related
to
their
duties
in
the
office.
These
classes
are
the
best
practices
and
an
efficient
way
to
educate
throughout
the
state.
There
does,
however,
need
to
be
classes
given
in
different
parts
of
the
state.
More
frequently
there
are
several
offices
that
cannot
afford
to
pay
for
hotel
rooms,
nor
lose
the
deputy
for
a
week.
E
E
We
abide
by
state
guidelines
with
no
issues.
Davis,
county,
fiscal
core
provides
space
for
ample
storage
and
we
have
century
files
store
all
important
documents,
such
as
homestead
and
disability,
exemptions,
conference
records,
changes
of
addresses
and
anything
else
we
feel
is
needed.
The
filing
system
needs
to
be
statewide
and
funded.
That's
just
my
two
sins
and
it
is
paperless
in
my
presentation.
I
was
going
to
expand
on
technology
next
slide.
Sorry,
I'm
just
over
here
clicking
away.
E
Oh
I
wanted
to
yes,
how
is
technology
being
used
to
better
davis,
county
pva
office
douglas
county
is
a
rapid
developing
county
that
needs
to
utilize
technology
as
much
as
possible
for
the
lack
of
deputies
funding.
We
keep
a
great
working
relationship
with
all
agencies
in
order
to
share
services.
Slash
cost
want
to
I'll
expand
on
that
a
little
bit
throughout.
So
next
slide.
E
I
have
a
website,
that's
updated
twice
a
week,
everyone
in
davis
county,
there's,
there's
nowhere
that
I
go,
that
I
don't
get
a
compliment
on
the
website
and
being
able
to
access
that
information.
E
E
I
touched
on
that
a
minute
ago,
but
I
just
recently
purchased
that
a
few
years
ago
and
everything
is
scanned
in
so
every
homestead.
Every
disability
is
actually
done
paperless.
They
sign
up
for
it
on
the
other
side
of
the
glass
there's,
actually
no
contact
that
shows
their
driving
license
and
that's
scanned
into
the
system.
E
I
mean
it's
just
there
and
and
I
can
search
so
if
you
came
in
and
I
needed
to
see
if
mr
mills
had
a
homestead
or
disability,
I
would
type
in
meals
in
that
database
and
it
would
pop
up
it's
a
wonderful
program.
I'd
love
to
see
every
county
have
that
program,
aerial,
imagery,
they're
flown
every
two
years,
and
this
this
is
a
big
statement
here.
E
The
city
slash
county
consortium
pays
for
60
of
these
of
my
flights,
so
I
have
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
consortium
here
and
they
play
a
majority
of
those
flights
and
they
are
done
every
two
years
and
actually
this
december
couple
of
months,
I'm
having
a
two
inch
two
inch
flight
done
to
better.
Just
I
can
see
things
much
better
and
assess
better
access
to
county-wide
clinical
zoning
database
for
permits.
This
is
a
big
difference
between
counties,
huge
difference.
E
E
E
E
The
only
way
to
solve
the
funding
is
a
strategic,
continuous
income
stream
based
on
each
county
size.
My
some
of
my
ideas
for
that
are
the
same
as
jeff's
dedicated
portion
of
the
state
tax
rate
to
fund
property
tax.
Basically,
property
tax
pays
for
property
tax.
I'd
also
like
to
see
enact
a
reasonable
fee
for
the
special
taxing
districts
for
the
use
of
our
tax
roll
questions,
short
and
sweet.
B
Thank
you,
miss
foster,
got
a
couple
questions
for
you.
It
was
very
good.
I,
like
short
presentations
and
concise
ones
too,
just
real
quick
since
you
just
touched
on
it,
a
reasonable
fee.
What
is,
and
we
won't
hold
you
to
the
fire.
But
what
do
you
think
a
reasonable
fee
is
for
the
use
of
your
information
by
these
smaller
taxing
districts.
B
E
E
But
it
comes
to
it
comes
to
the
whole
fact
of
the
different
sizes.
My
parcel,
but
I
think
basing
it
on
parcel
count
for
each
district
would
would
be
a
fair
way
to
do
it.
B
Okay,
a
couple
more
follow-ups.
What
is
just
curious,
what
is
your
your
flower
you're
getting
ready
to
have
done?
What
was
the
cost
of
that?
Just
I
can't
remember.
I
know
it
was
a
big
number
when
I
was
in
city
government,
but
it
was
just
curious
what
what
current
costs
are
on
that.
B
B
Okay,
then
two
more
questions
you
earlier.
You
suggested
that
department
of
revenue
training
that
you
wanted
to
see
them.
Those
trainings
spread
out
throughout
the
state
is
some
of
that
training
available
through
technology
like
through
zoom,
or
do
you
think
it
could
you
or
or
is
it
one
of
those
things
that
you
have
to
be
in
class
to
really
get
the
you
know
the
gist
of
the
training.
E
No,
I
think,
that's
an
excellent.
I
think
that's
an
excellent
idea,
and
I've
actually
thought
about
that.
I
think
that
you'll
see
so
many
different
entities-
utilize
zoom
after
it
might
be
actually
a
good
effect
of
coping-
is
utilizing
this,
but
it
absolutely
could
be
utilized
in
for
our
classrooms.
A
E
I
don't
know
of
anyone
that
was
denied
access,
most
count.
There's
you
know,
I
don't
know
statistic-wise
who
has
planning
and
zoning
and
then
who
has
access
right.
This
has
been
just
recently
that
they
switched
to
a
database
that
that
I
could
have
a
password
to
get
into
I
used
to
we
used
to
go
and
get
them
by
hand.
They
would
print
out
a
copy
of
every
permit,
but
we
were
at
their
mercy
if
they
forgot
to
print
one
right.
So.
D
You
county
does
not
have
accounting
life
training
and
zoning
under
krs
100.,
the
city
of
providence
and
the
city
of
seabree.
They
have
planning
and
zoning.
I
go
down
the
fire
barn
and
pick
up
a
list
of
structures
that
came
in
and
obtained
permits
for
providence,
and
the
city
clerk
over
at
silvery
sends
me
the
list
of
their
permits
every
year.
My
first
first
week
of.
A
A
Well,
miss
foster.
We
appreciate
you
and
if
you
don't
mind
to
hang
on,
we
do
a
wrap
up
there.
There
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
more
questions.
One
thing
this
is
my
third
meeting
of
the
day
and
I've
heard
it
in
the
other
two
and
it's
a
saying
that
many
people
use
and
I
think,
can
be
included
in
the
pbas
if
you've
been
to
one
pva
in
the
state,
you've
been
to
one
pba,
they're,
all
diverse
they're,
all
different
they're
all
unique
and
they
go
from
anywhere
from
two
employees
to
multiple,
multiple
employees.
A
So
you
know
we
we
do
have
to
be
careful
and
keep
that
ability
to
to
act
according
to
the
individual
needs
at
some
point,
but
still
try
to
get
some
sort
of
uniformity.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
miss
martin
to
come
up
with
boone,
county
pba
and
she's
here
in
person.
So.
A
F
You
don't
realize
how
much
you
need
an
umbrella
until
you
really
need
an
umbrella.
But
yes,
I
think
I'm
good.
Unless
you
can
see
that
half
my
jacket
is
a
lot
and
my
hair's
starting
to
cool
roll
and
yeah,
but
I
think
I'm
good.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present.
F
Today
it
was
my
understanding
that
somebody
from
was
asked
specifically
from
northern
kentucky
to
come,
which
we
appreciate
that
very
much
and
that's
why
you
got
my
little
northern
kentucky
joke
on
the
front
of
your
slide,
because
it
seems
like
the
only
thing
northern
kentucky
is
really
known
for
is
the
florence
y'all
water
tower
so
I'll.
Just
put
that
as
a
little
thing
that
is
actually
in
my
county
boom
county
is
the
home
of
the
florence
wilder
y'all
water
tower
and
senator
mills.
F
F
So
I
can
add
a
little
bit
more
of
a
spin
on
that
and
what
I
do
is
we
have
a
budget
committee
of
pvas
and
we
get
together
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
best
allocate
the
money
that
we're
given
and
the
last
11
years.
That
has
been
very
painful
because
we
have
not
had
a
real
funding.
We've
had
consistent
funding
issues,
so
we
have
tried
to
work
together.
We've
been
able
to
do
that
with
the
blessings
of
the
commissioners
that
we've
had
and
they
kind
of.
F
Let
us
manage
our
own
money
as
long
as
we
stay
within
the
confines.
We
don't
go
over
budget,
then
we've
been
able
to
kind
of
manage
that
ourselves,
so
I'm
also
going
to
throw
some
of
that
in
there
just
because
I
have
that
that
background.
But
since
we
talked
about
northern
kentucky-
and
it
was
mentioned-
you
know,
representative
bridges
just
said:
if
you've
been
to
one
pba
office,
you've
been
to
one
pva
office.
F
We
are
all
different
in
everything
that
we
do,
and
these
are
just
the
statistics
from
my
neighbors
at
north
moon,
kent
and
campbell
county.
We
are
very
much
similar,
but
you
can
see
we
are
very
much
different.
I
listed
just
the
population,
the
parcels
in
the
tax
roll,
that's
real
property,
only
assessment
that
we
have
in
our
counties,
kitten
is
the
biggest
and,
however,
my
tax
rate
is
slightly
larger.
F
I
would
say,
based
on
the
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
would
guess
that
to
our
distribution,
warehouses
that
we
have
housed
next
to
the
airport.
F
F
Oh
we're
not
so,
like
I
said,
boone
county
has
allocated
10
and
a
half
state
funded
positions,
my
county
again.
We
try
and
give
pbas
the
option
to
run
their
offices
the
best
way
they
want
to
run
their
offices.
I
actually
have
eight
part-time
employees
in
my
office
reason
because
I
don't
want
to
pay
84
of
a
retirement
cost
and
that
savings
will
come
back
to
my
office,
so
I
actually
have
eight
part-time
employees
and
eight
full-time
employees.
F
I
do
have
one
listed
for
hire
and
then,
on
top
of
that
I
pay
for
one
and
a
half
of
those
part-time
positions
out
of
my
local
funds,
because
I
need
that
to
be
able
to
get
the
work
done
that
I
have
to
get
done.
We
talked
about
the
inequity
of
staffing.
Why
is
there
that
inequity
we've
not
had
any
increased
funding?
F
It
was
not
being
fully
funded,
obviously,
and
now
we're
at
84
and,
as
you
have
dealt
with,
that
in
other
offices
and
yourselves
in
your
own
budgets,
that
has
been
a
huge
burden
to
us
and
how
we've
been
able
to
function.
So
with
that
no
no
one
has
had
any
additional
employees.
F
I
I
get
emails
all
the
time.
How
can
I
get
more
employees-
and
I
always
sweetly,
say-
and
to
all
the
pva's
watching
I'll
sweetly
say
it
again,
it's
very
sweet
that
you
think
we
have
money
for
anyone
to
have
additional
employees,
but
there
is
no
money
for
anyone
to
have
additional
employees.
So
sorry,
if
you
have
the
local
funds,
we'd
encourage
you
to
do
that,
but
and
with
the
outlook
of
next
year's
budget
or
this
year's
budget,
it's
only
going
to
get
worse.
F
Also
every
county
must
have
two
employees
for
statute.
There
are
24
counties
that
have
those
two
employees.
F
I
know
I
talked
to
washington
county
pva
today
and
she
has
had
a
deputy
out
for
months
because
her
husband
has
covid
and
she
has
continually
tested
negative,
but
because
she's
living
with
someone
who
has
tested
positive,
I
think
four
times
the
deputy
cannot
go
back
to
work.
So
it's
just
she's
rolling
on
one
deputy
right
now,
and
so
you
know
she
can't
they
can't
do
field
work.
F
They
can't
leave
the
office,
they
can't
hardly
handle
what's
going
on,
so
that
two
employees
can
present
a
problem
for
those
offices
who
have
extended
absences
or
child
care
issues.
At
this
point
right
now
with
school's
not
going
back
to
school,
you
have
heard
rachel
and
jeff
talk
about
this
fad
number.
I'm
sure
you've
been
dying
to
know
what
that
means,
because
I
can't
wait
to
talk
about
it
back
in
2010
when
things
started
to
really
get
bad.
F
The
pdas,
as
part
of
the
budget
committee,
came
up
with
a
way
to
save
money
and
they
said
we
are
going
to
allocate
how
many
peop,
if
we
had
628
employees
in
a
perfect
world.
This
is
what
the
allocation
would
be
and
if
you
are
over
the
allocation,
if
you
have
three
and
a
half
employees
and
the
formula
says
you
should
only
have
two
and
a
half
then
the
next
time
you
have
a
separation.
F
You
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
rehire
that
position.
So
there
were,
I
went
to
say,
37
counties
who
lost
people
through
attrition
in
an
effort
for
us
to
help
make
budget
every
year
and
every
year.
That
saves
us
a
significant
amount
of
money.
We've
saved
over
10
million
dollars
to
date
with
this
formula
and
we
save
over
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
a
year.
F
Unfortunately,
we've
eliminated.
Fortunately,
unfortunately,
we've
eliminated
28
full-time
positions
that
should
have
been
allocated
to
counties
like
mine,
who
has
had
that
exponential
growth
and
is
is
running
on
empty
at
this
point,
but
because
we
weren't
able
to
reallocate
them,
we
simply
took
them
from
the
counties
who
were
over
according
to
the
formula,
and
now
the
counties
that
are
under
are
still
emailing
me
and
asking
me
for
more
employees.
F
This
is
just
a
nice
little
graph
that
I
like
to
put
together.
This
is
the
growth
that
boone
county
has
had
year
over
year.
This
is
not
constant
growth.
This
is
not
what
we've
done,
and
this
is
what
the
tax
roll
has
done.
F
So
the
red
line
is
the
change
in
assessment
over
the
previous
year,
and
the
blue
line
is
a
change
in
median
sales
price
over
the
previous
year,
so
you
can
see
where
in
11
and
12,
maybe
things
are
steadily
going
up
and
then
what
they're
doing
right
now
in
2020,
the
median
sales
price
increase
from
january
to
july
from
my
county
is
11
in
seven
months,
and
I
am
expected
to
keep
up
with
that
growth
and
I'll.
F
Tell
you
why,
then,
but
so
what
my
tax
roll
did
last
year
is
it
went
up
almost
eight
percent
to
try
and
maintain
that,
but
that's
over
the
previous
year
number.
So
my
point
of
that
is
that
in
high
growth
counties
it
makes
it
very
hard
to
meet
department
of
revenue
mandates
and
here's.
Why
is
that
the
department
of
revenue
expects
us
to
be
in
a
90
standard?
Well,
if
my
market
went
up
11
percent
in
one
year
and
that's
january
through
july,
but
we'll
pretend
it's
the
whole
year.
F
F
F
F
So
I
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
say
no.
I
don't
want
to
do
that
because
if
I
don't-
and
I
tried
actually,
if
I
don't
do-
that-
the
schools
don't
get
their
money,
the
fire
districts
don't
get
their
money,
the
health,
the
library,
the
county,
the
state
they
don't
get
their
money
so
that
when
you're
looking
at
you
know
the
challenges
we
face
and
what
we're
doing,
I
think
that
needs
to
come
into
play
is
with
these
high-growth
counties.
F
Coincidentally,
my
commercial
ratio
was
93.7
percent
so
because
it
was
over
90,
I
actually
didn't
have
to
reassess
any
commercial
property,
which
is
good,
but
at
the
same
point
there
was
a
lot
of
money
left
on
the
table,
because
I
had
to
pull
all
my
resources
to
reassess
residential
my
distribution,
warehouse
market.
I
have
450
distribution,
warehouse
markets
and
I
have
the
largest
amazon
distribution
warehouse
currently
being
built
when
over
3.2
billion
square
feet-
3.2
million-
and
I
can't
I
don't
have
time
to
reassess
those.
F
So
I
would
say
that
my
average
per
square
foot
price
went
from
36
to
at
least
42
dollars
a
square
foot
in
that
market,
and
I
don't
have
the
resources
to
dedicate
to
put
that
into
it.
Quite
honest,
I'll,
try
and
do
some
of
it
next
year.
If
I
don't
have
this
huge
residential
burden
on
me,
but
there
is
money
being
left
out
there
just
because
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
to
get
it
done.
F
I
talked
about
that.
I
did
want
to
talk
about
tax
anticipation
loans,
just
as
a
point
of
what
happens.
If
we
don't
do
our
job,
if
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
do
our
job,
one
of
the
fire
chiefs
because
of
covid
this
year
the
tax
calendar
was
pushed
back
90
days.
That
makes
it
very
hard
for
tax
bills
to
go
out
on
time.
F
We
have
been
in
constant
conversations
with
our
tax
district,
our
sheriff's
office,
to
see
how
can
we
get
these
tax
bills
out
on
time?
These
districts
depend
on
this
revenue.
They
want
it
to
come
out
in
october,
that's
when
they
need
it
and
the
taxpayers
want
that
bill.
We
get
calls
october
1st
from
people
who,
where
is
my
tax
bill?
It
is
not
a
mom
damn
box,
I
assure
you
it
will
be
there.
F
F
My
point
is:
when
we
don't,
our
job
has
ripple
effects
that
I
don't
think
has
really
been
expounded
on
enough
yet
or
that
people
realize
what
kind
of
effect
it
can
have.
If
we
don't
get
that
certification,
if
the
things
do
get
pulled
back
or
whatnot
is
that
we're
really
hurting
these
districts
that
depend
on
our
money,
and
you
asked
about
office
procedures.
F
This
was
probably
a
little
bit
more
than
you
wanted
to
know.
I
wasn't
sure
exactly
what
you
were
looking
for.
This
is
our
organizational
chart.
You
know
jeff
said
that
he
has
a
small
office
and
they
cross
train.
We
do
try
and
cross
train
we
have
to
because
we're
understaffed.
So
I
can't
I
have
to
cross
train
because
I
don't
have
enough
people,
I
don't
have
the
amount
of
people
that
I
should
defend
a
department.
F
We
also
do
a
lot
of
things.
We
do
second
reviews
of
a
lot
of
things,
and
maybe
that's
me
because
I'm
a
cpa
and
I
want
separation
of
duties
and
powers,
but
we
have
two
people
look
at
deeds
and
two
people
look
at
plots
and
two
people
look
at
assessments
so
that
one
person
doesn't
have
control
of
that.
But
it
also
takes
up
a
lot
of
extra
time
that
I'm
making
happen
because
it's
important
to
me
and
mistakes
still
get
made
even
with
that
secondary
layer.
F
But
that's
why,
during
that
organizational
chart,
you'll
see
a
review
of
things
because
we
try
and
get
two
eyes
on
a
lot
of
things.
I
wish
I
could
get
two
eyes
on
everything
that
happened
in
our
office
so
that
we
didn't
have
those
mistakes,
but
unfortunately
I
can't
do
that.
But
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any
more
specific
questions
about
office
procedures
or
how
we
work,
but
that
gives
a
real
gambit
of
what
we
do
and
how
we
split
it
up
and
how
we
all
report
to
each
other
staff
training
policies.
F
You
asked
about
that.
We
do
the
sponsored
education,
iao
classes
and
webinars.
We
specifically
have
a
training
manual
in
our
office.
Pursuant
to
what
software's
we
have
something
that
somebody
should
be
able
to
say
how.
How
do
you
remove
a
car
from
avis
or
what
documentation
do
you
need,
and
it
is
very
specific
as
far
as
that,
how
do
you
measure
a
house?
Well,
what
does
this
look
like,
and
so
we
have
a
pretty
big
manual
just
specific
to
our
county,
that
we
do.
F
We
have
a
specific
hr
manual
and
hands-on
training
is
imperative
for
an
office
like
ours.
You
just
can't
send
someone
to
classes
and
expect
them
to
be
able
to
do
the
job,
because
you
wouldn't
believe
how
many
stories
you
have
and
how
many
unique
situations
you
have
come
into
our
office,
where
nothing
will
substitute
for
that
real
experience.
So
we
always
have
somebody's
out
different
employees,
we're
we're.
We
do
have
a
larger
office,
so
usually
they'll
be
trained
by
three
or
four
different
employees
so
that
they
can
get
the
in
the
entire
gambit.
F
We
have
record-keeping
policies
mandated
by
kentucky
retention
records.
We
are
essentially
paperless
office,
so
we
are
able
to
keep
things
digitally,
which
I
would
hope
that
every
county
would
eventually
have
that
opportunity
to.
F
We
are
using
signature
pads
e-signatures,
we
scan
every
front
desk
person
at
my
office
has
an
individual
scanner
that
they
are
doing.
We
use
onbase,
I
think
rachel
said
she's
sentry
file
we
use
onbase
simply
because
our
county
did
and
they
were
able
to
get
us
in
their
cost
saving
measures.
So
we
are
under
their
contract
for
onbase,
which
keeps
our
filing
cabinets.
Our
digital
filing
cabinets
together.
F
We
utilize
smartsheet
for
forms
on
our
website
that
you
can
use.
We
try
to
have
everything
that
you
can
do
in
our
office
available
on
our
website.
We
had
that
before
covid,
and
it
was
amazing
that
we
have
that
set
up
because
they
said
you
know
when
the
county
came
to
me
and
said:
when
does
your
office
need
to
open
up?
F
And
I
said
really,
our
office
does
not
need
to
open
up,
because
we
can
point
everyone
to
a
website
if
they
are
comfortable
doing
that,
because
everything
can
be
done
on
our
website
and
we
do
that
with
forms
and
they
send
us,
they
fill
out
the
forms.
We
send
them
an
e-signature
back,
they
sign
it
and
we
have
everything
you
would
be
amazed.
It
amazes
me
how
many
elderly
people
over
65,
applying
for
the
homestead
exemption,
have
no
problem
uploading
a
picture
of
their
driver's
license
and
doing
this
online.
You
know
it.
F
Technology
knows
no
age,
and
we
also
just
moved
to
ipads
in
the
field
and
sketch
validation,
which
will
be
really
exciting
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
have
live
chat
on
our
website
as
well,
so
that,
if
you
wanted
to
ask
a
question
in
real
time,
one
of
our
agents
are
able
to
answer
those
questions
for
you,
technology
that
should
be
available
to
all.
These
are
things
that
for
cost-saving
measures
that
you've
asked
for
if
we
did
have
a
statewide
contract
that
pbas
could
buy
into
to
reduce
cost
savings.
F
Just
like
I
did
with
onbase
for
my
county.
It
would
be
helpful.
Everybody
should
have
the
ability
to
have
oblique
imagery.
You
know
that
is
where
we
need
to
be
moving
to,
and
to
have
that
we
have
to
have
good
imagery
and
we
have
to
have
it
there,
especially
during
covid.
We
can't
in
boone
county.
We
can't
we
have
not
made
physical
field
staff
visit
since
march,
because
we
don't
feel
comfortable,
knocking
on
someone's
door
right
now.
F
We
are
hesitant
about
doing
it
coming
up
with
so
many
kids
being
at
home
from
school
now
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
do
it,
because
if
someone
is
measuring
your
house,
the
kids
are
instructed
not
to
answer
the
door
and
then
they
get
freaked
out
because
someone
is
measuring
your
house
or
taking
a
picture
of
it.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things,
probably
that
you
all
don't
realize
that
are
doing
this,
but
covetous
really
hurt
our
ability
to
do
physical
site
visits
and
that
oblique
imagery
would
help.
F
F
We
are
the
only
ones
who
apparently
use
and
appreciate
the
oblique
imagery.
So
we
simply
pay
the
difference
of
that
cost.
We
do
not
have
flyovers
as
often
as
some
flights
do
as
soon
as
some
offices
do.
I
wish
we
could
get
more.
I
wish
we
could
get
two
inch.
Rachel
said
she
had
two
inch
flights
and
I
thought
where
I'm
getting
three
and
six
in
my
rural
parts
of
my
county.
F
So
there
is
definitely
a
huge
cost-saving
measure
if
we
did
an
entire
statewide
flight
of
oblique
imagery
with
with
those
things
lexus
nexus.
I
think
rachel
said
she
had
clear.
We
do
this
to
identify
homestead
exemptions.
If
you
apply
for
the
homestead
exemption,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
is
your
primary
residence
and
that
you
don't
have
a
secondary
home
in
florida.
This
happened
and
we
audit
our
homesteads
once
every
four
years
when
we
audit
it.
F
When
we
first
got
lexisnexis,
we
build
out
83
000
those
tax
dollars
that
we
build
out
by
finding
people
who
were
getting
the
homestead
in
florida,
getting
the
homestead
in
nebrain
counties
and
and
double
dipping
on
that
primary
residence.
So
we
built
out
83
000
the
first
year
and
25
000
the
next
year,
so
we
build
out
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
additional
revenue
just
by
having
lexus
nexus
and
that
costs
120
a
month.
But
not
every
county
can
afford
that,
and
maybe
not
every
county
has
a
staff
to
utilize.
F
It
like
we
do,
but
we
think
it's
important
to
do
that,
to
maintain
an
independent
role
loopnet
we
used
to
have
loopnet
it
got
bought
out
by
co-star
and
now
it's
very
expensive.
F
F
Now
we
don't
have
access
to
any
of
that,
and
a
statewide
subscription
to
co-star
would
be
invaluable
for
us
when
we
have
these
tax
representatives
that
jeff
said
came
coming
in
and
throwing
these
sales
that
we
can't
go
out
and
find
ourselves,
because
we
don't
have
access
to
the
same
systems.
They
do
so,
in
my
opinion,
those
three
things
are
definitely
things
that
should
be
done
on
maybe
a
statewide
contract
and
be
made
available
to
all
of
us,
because
everybody
should
have
that
for
us
to
better
utilize
our
job.
F
We
do
have
a
computer-aided
mass
appraisal
system
in
boone
county.
It's
a
market-driven
cost
approach
every
it
works
amazing
in
subdivisions
essentially-
and
I
love
it
because
if
someone
says
you
picked
on
me
because
I
gave
you
a
speeding
ticket
last
year
and
now
you're
raising
my
property
value.
Actually,
that's
not
at
all
what
happened?
It's
a
computer-aided
mass
appraisal
system.
I
didn't
even
know
you
got
increased.
F
I
can
tell
you
exactly
where
and
I
can
show
you
how
you're
assessed
like
your
neighbors
in
subdivisions.
It
works
amazing
in
farms
in
rural
counties.
It's
not
going
to
help
them
at
all.
I
still
have
rural
parts
of
the
county
that
I
have
to
do
individually,
one
by
one.
But
when
I
have
a
subdivision
of
600
like
houses,
I
can
do
it
in
minutes.
F
I
still
review
them
all
because
I'm
if
you
can't
tell
I'm
very
particular
about
things,
but
we
still
review
them
one
by
one
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
outliers
and
that
everything
looks
right,
but
the
meat
of
it
is
actually
done
once
we
calibrate
it,
but,
like
I
said
that,
doesn't
help
rural
counties
as
much
as
it
does
the
urban
ones
we
do
charge
for
the
use
of
our
website.
We
need
that
money.
It
goes
back
into
our
website
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
the
technology
to
apply
online.
F
We
let
you
appeal
online.
You
can
remove
a
vehicle.
You
can
sign
up
for
email,
notifications,
we'll
email
you
when
we're
going
out
to
your
neighborhood,
so
we
have
email
list
that
we
collect
and
then,
if
we're
going
out
to
your
neighborhood,
we'll
send
you
an
email
and
say:
hey
we're
going
to
be
out
there,
don't
get
upset,
don't
get
alarmed.
F
We.
It
really.
Is
us
and
we'll
be
there
and
get
out,
so
we
electronic
address
changes
everything
that
can
get
done
online.
We
also
have
neat
mobile
friendly
things
if
you're
out
at
a
property-
and
I
think
representatives
you're
in
real
estate-
you
could
actually
go
on
our
thing
and
say
I
want
to
see
the
sales
near
me
and
it
will
actually
geo
code
and
populate
the
sales.
So
that's
what
we
do
with
the
income
that
we're
deriving
from
our
website
and
and
things
that
we're
doing
with
that.
F
But
we
do
charge
because
we
need
that
money
and
I
know
I'm
running
out
of
time,
so
I
will
lightly
touch
on
these
funding
issues.
But
because
of
my
background,
I
always
like
to
talk
about
them.
This
a
lot
of
times.
I
get
up
here
and
speak
a
lot
to
the
budget
portion
of
it
and
and
beg
for
money
every
two
years
and
now
every
year
right.
F
So
I'm
the
one
up
here
saying
we
need
your
money
and
I
always
like
to
remind
the
state
government
that
they
are
subsidizing:
the
cost
of
our
offices
to
fund
local
districts,
so
you're
not
just
paying
our
office
for
the
revenue
you
see
in
your
budget,
you're,
paying
and
supporting
us
to
fund
schools,
fire
districts,
libraries,
health
and
extensions
in
boone
county
alone.
That
was
123
million
dollars
of
revenue
that
came
in
and
at
no
expense
to
them.
F
The
state
picked
up
the
tab
on
the
cost
of
that
and
I
think
that's
important
to
always
realize
that
you're
not
just
paying
us
for
the
money
that
comes
back
in
your
budget,
you're,
paying
us
you're
supporting
us
for
all
of
these
districts,
and
these
are
my
statistics.
Just
for
my
county
again,
I'm
a
numbers
person
that
this
is
the
revenue
to
expense
dollars
that
even
the
state
sees
just
on
real
property
assessments.
F
F
F
I
also
threw
this
in
here
just
because
I
think
it's
a
big
point.
If
I
was
a
taxing
district
and
I
said
how
much
does
it
cost
for
me
to
earn
this
property
revenue
right?
I
get
property
tax
revenue
checks
disbursed
to
me
in
october
november
december.
How
much
is
it
costing
me
well,
you're,
either
paying
my
office
to
assess
the
property
or
you're
paying
the
sheriff
to
collect
it
so
to
no
fault
of
their
own?
F
I'm
getting
about
1.2
million
to
assess
it
and
my
county
sheriff
does
not
charge
four
percent
to
every
district.
He
charges
two
percent
of
schools.
He
charges
one
percent
to
buyer,
so
they're
not
even
charging
everything
they
could
be
charging
and
I'm
not
saying
the
sheriff
needs
to
be
charging
less.
I'm
saying
we
are
not
they're
getting
almost
four
times
three
and
a
half
times
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
getting
to
collect
that
money
and
we're
being
the
ones
with
charge
to
assess
it.
F
Also
just
wanted
to
close
out
with
relationships.
Every
county
pva
office
is
different,
partly
because
of
the
relationships
they
have.
Some
pvas
have
great
relationships
with
every
person
in
their
jurisdiction
and
some
don't.
If
you
have
it,
we
have
a
good
relationship.
We
use
our
county's
I.t
department,
which
is
amazing,
we're
on
their
network,
which
is
amazing.
We
don't
get
charged
every
time.
We
call
cot
which
a
lot
of
offices
do
they,
we
get
property
maintenance
cleaning.
I
know
some
offices
pay
somebody
to
clean
their
office.
We
are
using
our
property
maintenance.
F
We
get
to
use
our
conference
rooms,
we
use
their
permitting
system,
we
use
their
vehicle,
their
county
maintenance
will
service
our
vehicles
and
they
will
build
us
for
them,
but
we're
getting
it
at
a
much
reduced
rate.
We
don't
have
to.
We
get
to
use
our
mail
room
and
postage
machine
we're
under
their
gis
mapping.
We
took
advantage
of
them
with
the
on-base
license
and
things
like
that,
so
those
relationships
are
another
reason
why
you're
going
to
see
different
counties
have
different
things.
F
Why
maybe
boone
county
has
something
that
another
county
doesn't
have,
because
maybe
there's
relationships
there
that
simply
don't
exist
to
no
fault
of
anyone's
own?
Maybe
they
don't
want
to.
Maybe
they
don't
want
to
be
part
of
it
or
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that.
I
don't
know,
but
that
helps
as
well.
So
my
opinion
is
obviously
property
tax
should
fund
property
tax.
F
Whatever
way
that
is,
I
will
say
we
have
had
discussions
with
I've
had
discussions
with
my
judge's
office
as
recent
as
last
month
and
we've
talked
about
getting
together
the
school
board
and
the
fire
districts
in
the
library
and
saying
how
can
we
help
make
this
a
more
equitable
solution,
because
my
county
feels
like
they're,
also
subsidizing
the
cost
of
these
things
and
it's
it's
catching
up
to
them.
So
they'll
take
any
questions
you
might
have.
B
F
We
sent
double
the
amount
of
notices
that
we've
ever
sent
before,
because
we
had
to.
We
had
that
85.4
sales
ratio.
B
F
We
had
to
raise
360
million
dollars
so,
whereas
we
usually
only
send
7
000
notices
out,
we
sent
14
000
notices
out.
We
sent
it
out
during
covid
when
people
were
unemployed
and
home
from
work.
So
not
only
was
it
the
hours
it
was,
it
was
the
names
I
was
called
on
social
media.
I
had
one
person
ask
me:
how
do
I
sleep
at
night
doing
this
because
I,
like
I
said
I
don't
get
to
say
no,
I
I
was
given
a
task
that
I
have
to
do
and
I
don't
have
a
choice.
F
So
it
was
the
worst
inspection
period
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
not
only
the
amount
of
work
but
also
the
environment
and
the
circumstances
and
what
I
had
to
overcome
to
be
able
to
get
certified.
I
got
certified
with
you're
supposed
to
have
a
90
ratio
and
I
have
like
an
89.6
which
thankfully
rounds
up,
because
I
don't
think
I
could
have
gotten
all
the
way
to
19.
B
Good,
just
about
two
more
is
you
were
talking
about.
You
actually
missed
assessing
commercial
property
in
your
county.
How
many
years
can
you
go?
Not
doing
that
I
mean.
Is
there
something
in
statute
that
tells
you
that,
or
is
that
involved
in
the
equation
of.
F
You
have
to
physically
inspect
property
once
every
four
years.
I
could
honestly
reassess
warehouses
every
two
years,
because
the
market
in
my
county
changes
changes
that
much
and
dictates
the
need
for
that.
Practically
speaking.
If
my
ratio
is
above
90
percent,
you
know
there,
I
don't
I'm
supposed
to
physically
inspect
it
every
four
years.
I
should
look
at
it
once
every
four
years,
but
there's
nothing
like
there
was
on
the
residential
side
saying
I
have
to
do
this
because
my
residential
ratio
is
85.4
percent.
F
I
didn't
have
to
do
that
with
commercial,
because
my
ratio
was
93.7,
which
means
that,
obviously,
if
my
ratio
is
93.7
on
commercial
property,
that
it's
assessed
highly
enough,
that
my
median
ratio
is
93.7,
it's
just
not
as
big
of
a
need,
but
I
do
think,
like
I
said
my
warehouses
could
be
done
every
two
years
easily.
B
F
Do
I
actually
am
at
one
point,
probably
10
or
11
years
ago
I
was
moving
to
technology
faster.
I
was
the
I.t
person
in
my
office
and
so
in
2009
I
actually
had
a
full-time
I.t
person
that
helped
me
for
a
few
years
to
get
some.
We
have
a
lot
of
in-house
programs
that
we
use
to
keep
track
of
things
just
on
our
own.
They
develop.
Those
programs
now
have
a
part-time
person
that
kind
of
keeps
all
of
those
up
and
running,
but
yeah
absolutely
and
I
need
both
of
them.
B
Got
a
lot
of
that
a
lot
of
good
questions,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
hear
about
this
next
meeting,
but
a
statewide
flyover
is:
is
that
possible?
Is
it?
Is
it
done
every
year.
F
To
my
knowledge,
which
is
not
tom,
crawford
may
have
better
knowledge
than
mine
from
what
I've
heard,
which
is
total
hearsay.
Is
that
the
flyover
is
done.
It's
done
not
at
what
we
would
want
to
see.
So
maybe
it's
six
inch
and
it's
not
oblique
imagery
and
when
we're
looking
at
assessing
using
gis
instead
of
going
to
someone's
house,
which
I
think
we've
decided,
is
the
way
that
we
need
to
move
for
efficiency
and
technology
purposes.
We
have
to
have
that
3d,
oblique
imagery
and
the
state
is
not
getting
that.
F
B
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
answer
that,
maybe
in
a
week
or
so
or
next
month,
loop
knit
tell
me
about
loop
net,
real,
quick,
well.
F
If
you
had
it
says
right
here
in
costar:
it's
a
portfolio
sale.
It
says
right
here
in
co-star,
it's
a
lease
back
or
whatever
they
want
to
call
it
and
we
are
not
able
to
go
very
far
outside
of
what
we
have
in
the
information
we
have
to
dispute
those.
So
if
you
know
western
kentucky
or
northern
kentucky,
I
can
go
to
ohio
to
get
sales
pretty
easy.
It's
all
in
the
cincinnati
market.
I'll
have
access
to
those
sales.
Co-Star
would
give
me
access
to
those
sales
to
say
hey.
F
This
is
the
identical
warehouse
sold
north
of
this
simpson
market
instead
of
south
of
cincinnati
market
and
sold
for
this,
but
we're
not
able
to
reach
those,
because
we
don't
have
the
co-star
and
it's
an
unfair
advantage
that
these
tax
reps
have
because
they're
using
that
to
to
reduce
values,
and
we
don't
have
anything
back
to
back
it
up,
but
it
is
very
expensive.
I
think
I
looked
at
it.
It's
2500
or
something
it
was
crazy,
expensive.
B
One
more-
and
this
may
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
the
how
many
special
taxing
districts
in
boone
county
presently
are
not
paying
for
your
information.
Your
information
that
you
generate
just
curious.
F
Yeah
I
have
it
here.
I
have
two
school
districts:
nine
fire
districts;
so
that's
11.,
the
library
district,
the
health
department,
the
extension
agency,
so
13
13,
11,
12,
13,
14.,.
C
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
of
the
last
two
meetings
where
we
talked
about
meeting
a
dedicated
funding
stream,
be
it
portion
of
the
state
rate
or
special
district
fee
for
the
assessment
role,
but
I'd
like
to
throw
a
third
option
out
there
and
and
offer
some
insight
to
the
committee
members.
The
pvas
are
required
to
send
a
percentage
of
their
local
funds
to
the
state,
to
supplement
payroll
and,
to
my
knowledge,
it's
the
only
state
agency
that
has
that
requirement.
C
I
think
it
would
be
good
information
for
the
committee
members
if
we
could
get
a
list
of
each
county's
percentage
of
local
funds
that
they
send
back
to
the
state,
and
that
would
also
give
a
good
idea
of
what
is
needed
to
absorb
that
amount
into
the
budget.
I
think
that
is
another
option.
We
should
pursue
as
a
dedicated
stream
to
allow
the
pbas
to
keep
their
local
funds
and
spend
them
on
their
office
needs.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
senator
harper
angel.
I
actually
have
that
information.
As
chair
of
the
budget
committee,
I
could
give
you
a
detailed
list
out,
but
this
year
we
sent
up
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
our
local
funds
back
to
frankfurt
to
fill
the
hole
offices
do
have
the
option
to
absorb
those
losses
within
their
office.
So,
like
I
said,
I
get
a
bill.
I
think
my
bill
is
400
000
this
year
and
that's
why
I
use
part-time
employees
because
if
I
can
say
hey,
I'm
recognizing
four
full-time
benefits.
F
Then
that
comes
off
my
bill
and
we've
set
it
up
that
way,
so
that
pbas
have
the
option
to
say
how
are
we
gonna
handle
this,
but
it
comes
down
to
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we're
short,
which
does
not
account,
for
we
have
a
90-day
hiring
delay
and
nobody
hires
within
90
days,
and
it's
been
that
way.
For
11
years,
we've
had
a
90
day
hiring
delay,
in
effect
that
it
does
not
hit
the
state
budget
unless
you
have
zero
employees
for
90
days.
F
So,
if
you're
in
office
of
two
people-
and
you
have
someone
leave-
you
are
mandated
90
day
hiring
delay.
You
have
one
person
in
that
office
and
we've
done
that
for
11
years.
All
these
things
you
make
budget,
that's
not
including
the
28
positions
we
lost,
that
need
to
be
reallocated
to
other
counties.
That's
not,
including
that
to
be
fully
funded,
would
probably
put
us
around
71.72
million
dollars,
we're
sending
back
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars,
which
I
believe
this
year
is
somewhere.
C
Thank
you
for
that
cindy.
You
know.
I
appreciated
how
forthcoming
the
pbas
have
been
offering
closely
with
the
committees.
You
know
absorbing
those
vacancies
is
just
lessening
the
aqueous
equities
accuracy
of
the
assessment
role,
so
we're
not
coming
out
ahead.
This
is
an
office
that
makes
money
for
the
state
and
makes
money
for
our
schools,
our
our
government
services,
our
fire
departments,
everybody,
and
we
need
to
look
at
that
dollar
to
dollar
return
and
it's
much
more
than
dollar
to
dollar
return.
C
A
Thank
you,
senator
and,
and
I
echo
your
remarks,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
this
task
force
at
hand
right
now,
and
there
is
the
fourth
option
that
I
appreciate
that
you
are
putting
forward
too,
is
the
cutting
back
on
redundancies
and
the
saving
measures,
and
we
are,
I
have
had
discussions
with
a
r
about
those
savings
and
how
they
can
stay
in
the
office
rather
than
being
returned.
A
So
I
think
my
pba
said
this
year,
they're
going
to
send
back
120
thousand
dollars
and,
and
there
were
expenses
he
probably
could
have
spent
that
on,
but
the
way
the
county
works
out
and
everything
you
don't
know
until
after
the
fact-
and
you
don't
want
to
go
out
and
spend
money,
if
you
don't
know
you
have
it
so
there.
I
believe
or
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
may
be
some
measures
of
readjusting
those
guidelines
to
to
meet
those
needs
or
or
better
suit.
Those
needs.
A
F
A
B
A
F
Right
there
are
some
options
there,
but
they
reduce
they
involve
staffing
and
if
he
needs
a
staffing,
he
has
to
take
it
in
his
office.
What's
more
important,
the
staffing,
the
technology
or
the
vehicles
and
the
vehicles
are
probably
going
to
be
the
one
that
loses
out
because
staffing
and
technology
are
what
runs
our
offices
essentially.
A
I
just
you
know
one
thing
that
was
on
one
of
these
and
this
may
not
have
been
yours,
but
actually
it
was
in
your
in
your
office,
outline
of
who.
A
The
return
bills
and
I've
actually
talked
to
my
sheriff's
office
that
really
struggles
with
that
too.
When
they're
trying
to
collect
those
and
everything,
do
you
see
any?
Do
you
have
any
suggestions
on
that
as
far
as
the
billing,
because
I
know
in
the
tax
calendar,
the
codes
regulations
and
I'm
still,
I'm
gonna
request
some
research
on
what
is
actually
constituted
and
what
is
statute
so
because
we
can
change
the
statutes.
A
But
you
know
the
billing
is
you
know
the
bill's
due
to
the
person,
owns
the
property
first
of
the
year,
but
it's
not
collected
until
the
end
of
the
year
and
if
that
property
sells
them
in
between
there,
you,
you
have
a
quandary
of
sending
the
bill
to
the
new
owner
care
of
the
old
owner.
Who
actually
has
legal
liability
for
that
and
I
know
being
a
realtor.
A
I
deal
with
that
every
day
and
I
know
the
prorations
and
all
that,
but
I
mean
legally
your
office
forget
about
the
probation,
unless
you
prove
it,
we're
gonna
go
after
the
property
on
the
first
of
the
year
and
it
the
the
care
of,
and
you
you
fill
it
out.
You
change
all
the
forms
for
that
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
year
you
gotta
go
back
and
it's
a
redundancy
factor
that
you're
gonna
go
back
and
correct
all
that
into
the
next
year.
Do
you
see
any
solution
for
that.
F
I
mean
there's
the
problem,
I
think,
is:
there's
a
practical
application
of
what
actually
happens
in
the
real
estate
world
with
appropriation
of
taxes
and
there's
a
legal
application
of
what
happens
in
the
pva
world
and
in
my
office.
We
dedicate
more
time
to
that,
because
I
don't
want
homeowners
to
miss
tax
bills
and
say:
oh
my
gosh,
on
april
15th,
you
know,
I
realized
that
I
had
my
tax
bill's
now
three
times
what
it
should
have
been,
so
we
work
really
hard
on
that.
We
transfer
deeds
until
the
1st
of
august.
F
So
if
the
deed
got
filed
before
august
1st,
then
the
tax
bill
is
going
to
go
out
with
our
name
on
it,
but
we
send
the
file
over
in
august.
So
at
that
point
we
can't
so
those
property
owners
that
have
transferred
in
august
september.
They
are
at
a
loss.
I
think
we've
tried
to
educate
the
title
companies
to
tell
them
to
go.
Look
for
those
bills
that
they
won't
be
mailed
to
them.
F
F
I
know
some
offices
say
I
can't
I
don't
have
time
to
work,
return,
tax
bills
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
people
don't
have
time
and
we
don't
have
staffing
to
be
able
to
handle
that
we
just
make
it
more
of
a
priority,
because
we
don't
want
those
tax
bills
to
go
unpaid
or
we
don't
want
it
to
come
back
when
the
bill
gets
bought
and
the
person
never
even
realized
it,
because
it
was
in
that.
F
So
we
make
a
point
to
handle
those
return,
tax
bills
and
just
educate
from
that
standpoint
on.
How
do
we
fix
it
statutorily?
I
guess
in
a
perfect
world
it
would
be.
I
don't
even
know,
because
there's
such
a
lag
time
between
even
like
I
said
I
send
my
file
to
the
county
in
august.
F
You
know
my
county,
my
files
due
to
them
in
the
middle
of
august,
so
that
they
can
work
on
getting
the
rates
balance
the
file
just
so
tax
bills.
Our
tax
bills
go
to
the
printer,
the
beginning
of
september,
typically
for
our
tax
bills
to
go
out
october.
1St,
that's
usually
how
that
rolls.
So
there
is
a
small
amount
of
time.
B
A
You
know
in
the
collection
process,
it's
very
difficult
for
them
too,
and
a
lot
of
these
when
they,
when
they
do
this,
I
do
numbers
of
closings
a
year
you
get
forward
in
addresses
and
a
lot
of
times
it
expires
before
so
it
gets
lost
in
the
mail
too.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
different
things
that
goes
into
this.
I
do
understand
that,
but
you
know
if
you
do
have
any
suggestions
at
a
later
date.
Please
well.
F
We
also
do
use
like
lexisnexis,
which
again
is
one
of
the
things
that
our
county
has,
that
not
all
counties
have.
So
if
that
does
come
back
return
to
us,
we'll
run
them
in
lexisnexis
and
try
to
find
them
and
say
well,
they
move
to
an
apartment
and
we
can
find
out.
They
picked
up
a
utility
and
lexisnexis
is
recording
their
new
address,
so
we'll
try
and
chase
them.
I
think
a
lot
further
to
make
sure
of
that.
But
yes,
we'll
definitely
get
together
as
a
group
and
discuss
that.
A
And
I've
got
a
question
for
let
me
go
back
to
miss
foster
that
you
had
I'm
sort
of
wrapping
this
up,
because
I
think
I
was
the
last
question,
but
you
or
or
for
any
of
the
three
of
you.
As
far
as
these
special
tasks
districts,
I
think
ms
foster
suggested
maybe
a
per
parcel
fee.
I
would
like
to
just
get
a
thought
of:
maybe
a
percentage
fee
you
know
either
would.
F
I
I
don't
know
if
rachel
wants
to
talk
to
that
first,
I
I
would
prefer
a
percentage
fee,
because
if
I
have
a
100
million
dollar
amazon
warehouse,
it
doesn't
seem
to
me.
You
know
we
have
911
fees
in
our
county
and
for
simplicity
purposes.
They
made
everybody
75,
which
is
the
way
they
chose
to
do
it.
I'm
not
discrediting
that
at
all,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
say
well.
F
Amazon
gets
a
lot
of
911
calls
and
it's
really
funny,
but
if
an
ambulance
comes
to
the
amazon
warehouse
and
then
that
person
doesn't
have
to
show
up
for
work
that
day
and
then
get
paid
for
it,
whereas
if
they
just
call
in
sick,
they
might
not
necessarily
get
that.
So
the
point
of
that
is
that
these
ambulance
districts
are
running
to
the
amazon
warehouse.
All
the
time
and
they'll
get
to
the
warehouse,
and
then
the
employee
will
say:
oh
no,
I'm
fine.
F
I
don't
even
want
your
service,
but
they've
had
to
make
that
call
and
they're
paying
the
75
dollars
just
like
as
a
homeowner
and
paying
75,
and
so
in
my
opinion,
the
proposal
count.
Can
you
know
create
a
disparity
or
inequality
that
maybe
we
would
want
to
address
more?
It
is
by
far
the
simplest
and
that's
why
my
county
did
it
for
the
911p,
but
it
can
create
some
disparity,
and
I
don't
know
if
rachel
wants
to
add
on
to
that.
E
B
A
A
But
one
thing
I
would
like
to
share
is
is
sort
of
the
instigator
of
this
task
force
and
I
was
able
to
share
with
miss
martin
earlier.
Is
you
know
our
intent,
for
this
is
maybe
maybe
mis
represented
in
a
way
or
not
represented,
but
maybe
not
intentional.
A
Is
it's
not
to
point
to
pvas
of
insinuate
in
any
way
that
you
are
doing
anything
wrong
because
you're,
not
the
intent
of
this
task
force
is
to
do
exactly
what
that
says
and-
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
especially
this
started
before
the
covet
crisis,
but
with
it
it
just
multiplies
the
the
fact
and
and
everything
that
you
know
you
guys
need
money
and
just
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
sitting
here.
Looking
at
two
senators,
I
can
tell
you
right
now:
the
state
has
no
money,
I
mean
we
are.
A
So
in
preparation
of
that,
we
are
looking
for
savings,
but
you
know
that
that's
part
of
the
intent
of
this
is
trying
to
help
you
and
to
to
reduce
the
the
redundancies
and
look
for
the
savings
gis.
I
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
can
be
overcome
in
that
area
from
the
discussions
I've
had
and
we'll
find
out
more
here
in
the
upcoming
weeks
or
the
next
meetings.
A
I
I'm
not
go
through
the
other
questions,
we'll
trade
numbers,
and
maybe
I
can
call
you
or
something,
but
the
the
big
thing
I
want
to
express
is
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
to
be
transparent
and
open
up
and
put
it
out
there,
and
I
think,
working
together
and
having
this
conversation
hasn't
been
had
in
a
long
time
too,
will
will
benefit
the
state
as
a
whole.