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From YouTube: Task Force on Local Government Annexation (8-25-23)
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County Official Testimony – 00:01:30
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A
Up
somebody
asked:
why
are
we
having
this
on
Friday
I'm
like
this,
is
my
way
of
keeping
all
elected
officials
from
going
to
VAC
on
vacation
early,
so
are
going
to
the
weekend
early?
So
no,
not
really.
We've
just
got
a
lot
of
committees,
a
lot
of
task
force
going
on,
and
this
was
most
convenient
time
for
all
of
us
to
get
here
and
listen
to
this
issue.
So
at
this
point,
let's
have
the
roll
call.
Please.
A
So
if
judges
could
come
to
the
table,
however,
y'all
want
to
do
these
all
together
or
individually,
come
on
up
to
the
table,
and
the
floor
will
be
years
if
y'all
can
introduce
yourselves
and
tell
us,
where
you're
from
appreciate
you
taking
time
from
your
day
to
discuss
this
important
issue.
Thank
you.
C
C
F
C
A
problem
of
mine
chairman
Mills,
chairman
Dixon,
thank
you
for
allowing
Warren
County
to
be
here
today
and
to
speak
with
you
on
behalf
of
some
issues
that
we
have
some
concerns
over.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
entire
committee,
the
entire
task
force
for
being
here.
We
appreciate
your
time,
particularly
on
a
Friday
afternoon.
C
You
may
be
wondering
why
the
Warren
County
attorney
is
here
and
not
the
Warren
County
judge
executive
or
maybe
even
the
Madison
County
judge
executive,
but
unfortunately
judge,
executive,
Taylor,
Reagan
Taylor,
fell
ill
and
judge
executive
corpsman's
out
of
town,
so
I
don't
know
what
that
means,
but
I'm
I'm
in
third
place
to
bad,
so
that
may
not.
That
may
not
be
good
I'll.
Try
not
to
disappoint
what
I'd
like
to
discuss
with
you
today
is
annexation.
Issues
concerning
counties
with
a
population
of
over
30
000
and
Warren
County
is
one
of
those
counties.
C
I
see
one
of
my
City
commissioners
here
today
for
being
here
today.
We
appreciate
what
the
Mayors
do.
It
is
important
to
Warren,
County
and
all
of
the
counties
across
the
Commonwealth
that
cities
Thrive
and
that
cities
grow,
because
when
cities
grow
and
Thrive
so
do
our
counties.
So
it's
very
important
that
that
everyone
understands
it
would
be
a
false
narrative
to
say
that
our
cities
and
counties
don't
want
to
get
along
with
each
other,
don't
want
to
work
together,
because
we
certainly
do
and
that's
why
we're
all
here
today.
C
So
our
concern
really
Warren
County
is
concerned
in
particular,
is
just
regarding
the
city's
success.
We
want
all
of
our
cities
to
be
successful,
but
we
don't
want
it
to
be
at
the
expense
of
our
County
and
I'll.
Explain
so
Warren
County
has
a
population
of
over
30
000..
There
are
about
25
of
us
similarly
situated
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky.
C
Warren
County
is
insane
tremendous
growth
over
the
past
several
years
and
by
2045
we
are
said
to
be
the
largest
county,
with
the
exception
of
Lexington
and
Louisville,
the
largest
county
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
and
we're
pretty
proud
of
that.
We
have
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
city
of
Bowling
Green
they're
here
today
and
all
of
all
of
the
Mayors
within
Warren
County,
Mike
and
I.
Both
boasted
that
we
were
not
only
colleagues
with
this
Mayors,
but
we
consider
them
close
personal
friends.
Our
now
judge,
executive
Gorman
will
be
no
exception
to
that.
C
The
annexation
problem
has
nothing
to
do
with
Mayors
and
judge
Executives
counties
and
cities.
It's
really
an
annexation
problem
that
centers
around
the
law
and
how
the
law
is
written
and
how
it
affects
the
population
of
those
over
thirty
thousand
as
the
law
stands
now
merely
because
of
our
population
being
over
thirty
thousand.
If
a
city
annexes
property
in
Warren
County,
we
no
longer
have
any
ability
to
get
any
occupational
tax.
None
at
all
those
laws
were
created
in
the
80s
I.
Don't
know
why
I
don't
know
the
rationale
behind
it.
C
I
would
submit
to
you.
I
was
merely
a
child,
but,
and-
and
none
of
us
were
here-
you
all
may
know,
but
I
don't
so
so
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
it's
no
one's
fault,
but
it's
just
an
issue
that
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
so
just
to
be
clear
when
the
city
of
Bowling
Green
or
even
the
city
of
Smiths
Grove,
the
city
of
Smiths
Grove
in
Warren
County
has
752
residents,
I
love,
Smith's,
Grove
I
am
what
they
call
a
Grove
rat.
That's
my
hometown!
C
That's
where
I
grew
up.
I
love
it
I
want
them
to
thrive.
I
want
them
to
do
great
things,
just
not
at
the
expense
of
the
county
and
I'm.
Going
to
give
you
a
prime
example
Bucky's
until
a
couple
of
months
ago
was
coming
to
Warren
County,
it's
now
coming
to
the
city
of
Smiths
Grove,
so
the
city
of
Smiths
Grove
is
going
to
get
all
of
the
occupational
tax
generated
by
Bucky's
and
Warren
County
government
will
get
zero.
Warren
County
has
a
population
of
about
almost
140
000
Smiths
Grove
has
a
population
of
752.
C
I.
Don't
begrudge
mayor
stiffy
for
doing
what
he
did
good
for
him.
He
called
us
before
he
did
it.
That's
because
we
have
a
good
working
relationship
together
and
we
consider
each
other
friends.
So
we
appreciate
that,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
Warren.
County
still
lost
out
on
that
money,
however
Boone
and
Scott
County,
who
are
also
over
30
000
they're,
not
similarly
situated
because
the
laws
treat
them
differently
because
of
some
some
things
that
have
occurred
in
the
past
and
they
changed
the
laws
to
to
help
them
work
that
out.
C
C
I'm
gonna
tell
you
and
leave
a
hole
in
his
budget,
but
that's
what
would
happen
if
they
were
in
it
if
they
were
on
playing
field
with
Warren
County,
that's
exactly
what
would
happen.
I
don't
want
that
to
happen.
So
don't
go
back
and
redo
it,
but
that's,
but
that's
what
would
happen
if
they
did
so
just
how
the
law
is
written.
You
can
certainly
see
that
there
could
be
conflict
or
tension
between
the
city
and
the
county.
C
I
understand
why
many
people
want
to
live
in
the
city,
whether
it's
a
business
or
a
person.
They
want
the
added
amenities
they
want
the
extra
services,
but,
along
with
that
extra
service,
along
with
the
added
amenities,
wouldn't
you
expect
to
pay
just
a
little
bit
more
I
know
when
I
get
ice
cream
and
I
get
whipped
cream
on
the
top.
It's
a
little
bit
extra.
C
That's
not
why
we're
here,
we're
not
against
annexation,
and
the
issue
is
an
annexation.
It's
how
the
law
is
written
and
I
certainly
think
we
can
find
common
ground
to
fix
this.
You
all
know
counties
are
political
subdivisions
of
the
Commonwealth.
We
are
mandated
to
to
provide
certain
services
and
we
have
certain
responsibilities
to
our
citizens.
C
We
don't
care
if
you
live
in
the
city
or
the
county,
we
provided
to
everyone,
because
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
do
and
the
cities
have
the
ability,
and
we
have
to
spend
lots
of
money
doing
that
across
the
board.
The
cities
have
the
ability
to
spend
their
money
on
added
Services
benefits
to
the
businesses
and
the
citizens
in
their
area.
C
C
No
one
here
today
is
responsible
for
what's
going
on.
This
is
just
how
the
law
was
written
a
long
time
ago.
I
know
we
can
find
common
ground
and
I
know
we
can
fix
this
together.
I'm.
Absolutely
certain
of
that.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
passionately
speak
about
Warren
County
and
my
desire
to
make
our
counties
and
our
cities
grow
and
prosper.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
be
late.
I
did
not
realize
the
time
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
off
to
judge
Mansfield
who's,
going
to
talk
about
insurance
premium
tax,
okay,.
D
Work,
thank
you
chairman
Mills
chairman
Dixon,
and
the
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
First
I
want
to
talk
about
Todd
County
Todd
County
is
a
booming
rural
County
in
Western
Kentucky,
and
we
border
one
of
the
fastest
growing
cities
and
counties
in
Tennessee
Clarksville,
Montgomery
County.
Our
population
is
about
12
300
and
we're
home
to
three
Incorporated
cities.
Elton
Guthrie
and
Trenton
with
regard
to
City
annexation
and
payroll
tax
Thai
county
is
much
different
in
a
much
different
situation
than
Warren
County
and
counties
over
thirty
thousand.
D
D
novellis
is
a
leading
aluminum
manufacturer
that
invested
365
million
dollars
in
for
their
new
Advanced
finishing
plan
in
Guthrie.
They
plant
employees
about
150
people
at
a
minimum
wage
of
22
dollars
per
hour
in
2022
novellas,
denounced
an
expansion
of
their
footprint
in
Guthrie
by
choosing
us
for
their
new
recycling
plant.
Another
365
million
dollar
investment
that
will
also
employ
150
people
and
at
22
dollars
an
hour
minimum.
The
picture
you
see
there
is
the
groundbreaking
from
last
summer,
and
you
see
your
colleague
Jason
Petrie
second
to
the
right.
D
There
novellas
could
not
have
happened
without
the
city
and
county
working
together
using
both
payroll
tax
sources
as
part
of
their
financial
package
for
this
project
with
regards
to
insurance
premium,
while
annexation
hasn't
been
a
problem,
we
can
see
what's
happening
in
other
counties.
You've
all
heard
briefly
about
the
insurance
premium
tax
and
how
it
has
affected
annexation.
D
State
law
requires
its
counties,
rates
be
offset
by
the
city
rate.
So
let's
say
a
county,
for
instance,
has
an
insurance
rate
of
10
percent
and
the
city
has
six
because
of
the
offset
are
crediting,
the
county
would
only
be
able
to
collect
four
percent
within
the
city
if
the
city's
rate
was
equal
to
or
more
than
the
county,
the
county
could
not
collect
any
insurance
premium
tax
in
within
the
city.
D
So
if
the
county
levied
a
higher
rate,
a
higher
insurance
rate,
the
city
could
have
simply
raise
that
insurance
premium
rate
to
match
the
counties.
There
would
be
no
additional
consequence
to
the
taxpayer
because
the
city
would
be
taking
it
from
the
county
budget,
not
the
not
the
taxpayer,
the
taxpayers
ultimately
unaffected,
but
the
funding
moves
from
County
to
City.
It
doesn't
seem
right.
D
We
are
fortunate
in
Western
Kentucky
to
have
a
low
unemployment
rate,
in
fact,
in
Thai
County
we're
one
of
the
lowest
in
the
state,
but
this
is
not
because
all
Ty
Canyons
work
in
Thai
County.
We
have
residents
that
travel
to
Muhlenberg,
County,
Christian,
County
and
other
counties
for
their
jobs,
and
vice
versa.
D
So
for
me
it's
not
just
about
Todd
County.
It's
about
my
neighbors.
We
are
encouraged
to
think
regionally
and
we
do-
and
we
will
continue
to
do
this,
but
it
seems
odd
that
my
neighbors,
like
Christian
in
Muhlenberg
County,
do
not
have
the
same
rules
applied
to
them.
They
do
not
have
the
same
tools
available.
Why
we
know
some
counties
were
grandfathered
in
under
the
old
state
law
and
that
have
fixed
this
problem?
We
need
a
fix
for
all
counties.
D
It's
inevitable
that
Ty
County
will
will
continue
to
grow
and
I
want
my
County
to
do
well,
but
I
want
my
cities
to
do
well.
The
three
Mayors
and
I
were
elected
in
2018.
We
have
a
great
working
relationship,
we
don't
always
agree.
Well,
we
work
together
and
I
want
all
my
neighbors
to
do
well.
I
want
our
cities
to
do
well,
our
County
and
our
region.
Let's
win
together.
E
Thank
you
good
afternoon
to
the
task
members
of
the
task
force
chairman
Mills,
chairman
Dixon,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
today,
prior
to
my
beginning
service
and
having
the
honor
to
serve
in
2019.
I
served
several
years
on
the
Paintsville
city
council.
As
a
city
council,
member
I
was
involved
with
annexation
actions,
so
this
experience
has
helped
me
to
better
understand
the
process
of
annexation.
E
E
First,
an
area
of
concern
that
we
have
is
maintaining
adequate
Public
Safety
as
elected
officials
and
Community
leaders.
The
safety
of
our
residents
is
a
priority,
if
not
the
priority
in
our
service
to
our
community.
So
we
have
some
mapping
to
help
visualize
the
situation
in
Johnson
County.
We
look
at
the
first
map
with
the
expanded
view
of
the
county.
You'll
see
thin,
annexed
extensions
that
extend
far
away
from
the
city
proper.
E
The
second
map,
more
specifically,
shows
that
the
city
of
pencil
has
utilized
Corridor
or
shoestring
annexations
to
extend
their
boundaries.
The
obvious
concern
when
we
look
at
the
very
first
item
here,
the
obvious
concern
is
that
public
safety
of
Public
Safety
Services
such
as
fire
and
police,
are
they?
Can
they
be
available?
Are
they
available?
Are
they
going
to
be
responsive
in
a
timely
manner
to
ensure
the
safety
of
our
residents,
as
I
said
a
moment
ago?
E
That
is
the
priority
for
us,
as
public
servants
in
our
communities
is
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
stay
as
safe
as
possible.
Map
3
further
highlights
a
long
shoestring
annexation
of
the
state
right-of-way
along
the
South
Corridor
of
US-23.
This
annexation
was
approved
in
the
1990s
for
a
proposed
industrial
project
that
never,
unfortunately,
materialized
this
annexation.
You
might
be
wondering
why
is
that
of
importance
to
us
today,
since
this
was
happened
in
the
1990s,
it's
important
because
it
created
an
opportunity
for
further
annexation.
E
If
you
look
at
map
4,
you
will
see
that
it
create
an
opportunity
for
a
recent
annexation
that
was
approved
on
one
property
for
one
property.
That's
identified
with
the
blue
star
on
map
4.
Johnson
County,
like
most
rural
counties,
is
comprised
of
many
communities
within
the
county
communities
with
varying
histories,
varying
cultures
and
map.
Five
highlights
the
location
of
one
property.
This
one
property
is
annex
that
has
impacted
the
community
in
Johnson
County.
E
So,
while
I
speak
about
two
items
that
are
non-monetary
for
Johnson,
County
and
I
would
suspect
for
other
rural
counties
as
well
like
ours.
The
first
one
is
obviously
concerns
about
Public
Safety,
the
second
one,
as
we
focus
on
this
one
particular
property,
those
annex,
by
virtue
of
it's
a
joint
being
adjoined
to
the
state
right-of-way
that
was
annexed
back
in
the
1990s.
This
is
the
second
concern
that
we
have
with
respect
to
the
current
annexation
laws.
Johnson
County
residents
have
not
approved
the
sale
of
alcohol
in
the
county.
E
The
current
annexation
laws
allow
the
annexation
of
the
highway
right-of-way
and
a
voluntary
request
on
the
property
owner
are
joining
the
right-of-way
to
take
place
without
input
from
the
county
or
neighboring
residents.
As
you
can
see
this
community
from
the
highlighted
map,
you
can
see
that
this
particular
community
in
Johnson
County
has
several
Residential
Properties
in
a
church
in
the
immediate
area
of
the
annex
property.
Therefore,
this
annexation
action
has
changed
the
dynamic
of
that
Community.
E
E
The
secretary
of
state
map
does
need
to
be
updated
with
this
most
more
recent
annexation,
but
we
have
highlighted
for
you
in
purple
on
this
particular
map
and
I
mentioned
to
you
that
it
is
a
it
was
to
be
a
proposed
private
recreational
project.
We
are
all
about
development.
We
are
all
about
private
dollars
being
invested
in
our
community.
We
are
all
about
working
with
our
city
to
ensure
that
our
community
succeeds
on
every
level.
E
I
would
say
this
in
my
concluding
thoughts.
My
comments
are
not
in
any
way
to
imply
the
mayor
paints
when
I
do
not
have
a
good
working
relationship,
because
we
do
we
work
on
a
lot
of
projects
together.
We
said
in
the
very
beginning,
when
we
both
started
serving
our
community,
that
there
will
always
be
things
we
don't
agree
on,
but
we
will
not
let
the
disagreements
that
we
have
stop
us
from
doing
the
things
that
are
best
for
our
community
that
we
do
agree
on.
E
So
we
do
work
very
well
together,
but
because
of
this,
it
is
obvious
that
when
the
city
does
well
so
does
the
county
and
likewise
when
the
county
does
well,
so
does
the
city.
We
understand
that
inner
working
relationship
and
the
benefit
to
our
community
and
that's
why,
from
the
beginning
of
my
service
to
the
county
as
County
Judge
I
have
emphasized
the
term
Community,
because
we
are
more
than
a
city
and
we're
more
than
a
county.
We
are
a
community.
E
I
would
just
like
to
see
a
More
Level,
Playing
Field
for
counties
with
respect
to
the
current
annexation
laws.
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time,
allowing
me
to
share
this
information
on
on
things
that
maybe
might
not
be
as
obvious,
because
they
are
non-monetary
impacts
on
our
communities
and
our
residents.
But
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
share
this
with
you
this
afternoon.
E
A
G
C
G
C
G
C
A
A
I
turn
around
and
ask
yeah
there's
a
couple:
heads
shaking
is
that
right,
yes
per
year?
Yes,
all
right,
support
staff!
Thank
you
all
right
and
then
on
the
Johnson
County
on
the
gas
station.
Annexation
I'm
just
curious.
What
was
the?
What
was
the
vote?
The
annexation
vote?
Initially,
you
remember
when
you
were
yeah
when
you
were,
was
it
three
to
two
or
something
like
that
yeah
it
gets
close
yeah.
That's
what
I
thought?
Okay,
all
right,
any
other
questions
for
the
county.
Folks!
A
A
A
F
I
Poll
here,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today,
chairman
Mills,
chairman
Dixon,
and
all
the
members
of
the
annexation
task
force.
It's
quite
an
honor
to
be
before
you
here
today
to
discuss
the
annexations
and
how
that
relates
to
our
topic.
Today,
my
city
in
Shelbyville
Kentucky,
we
have
approximately
17
000
in
population
and
the
county
is
approximately
48
thousand.
I
We
have
been
successful
in
collaborating
between
the
city
and
the
County
government
through
an
interlocal
agreement
that
we
have
had
in
place
today.
You
know
local
agreement
is
a
legal
document
that
outlines
the
terms
and
conditions
under
which
two
or
more
local
governments
there
are
entities
such
as
the
city
and
county
cooperate
and
collaborate
on
specific
projects
or
services.
I
Some
of
the
benefits
for
the
county
cost
savings.
The
County
May
save
on
providing
certain
services
to
the
index
area
such
as
law
enforcement,
fire
protection,
road
maintenance
and
utility
infrastructure.
These
Services
become
the
responsibility
of
the
city,
potentially
reducing
the
County's
operational
expenses.
This
is
particularly
relevant
if
the
city
assumes
these
responsibilities
upon
annexation,
infrastructure,
Improvement,
The,
increased
economic
activity
and
development
in
the
annex
area
can
lead
to
improvements
in
infrastructure,
benefiting
the
entire
County.
This
could
include
upgrades
to
roads,
utilities
and
other
shared
facilities.
I
Revenue
sharing,
while
the
county
is
sitting
a
portion
of
the
occupational
taxes,
it
still
benefits
from
the
growth
in
Economic
Development
within
the
annexed
area.
The
shared
Revenue
provides
supplementary
income
streamed
for
the
county
without
requiring
additional
administrative
efforts,
Regional
cooperation,
interlocal
agreements,
promote
cooperation
and
collaboration
between
local
governments.
I
This
can
lead
to
a
better
coordination
on
Regional
issues
such
as
transportation
planning,
Environmental,
Protection
and
emergency
response,
benefiting
both
City
and
County
residents.
Benefits
for
the
city
increase
Revenue
annexation
often
leads
to
an
expansion
of
the
city's
tax
base,
resulting
in
increased
revenue
from
property
and
occupational
taxes.
I
Sharing
a
portion
of
these
taxes
with
the
county
could
be
seen
as
a
fair
compromise
as
the
city
benefits
from
the
annex
areas,
growth
and
development,
economic
growth,
annexing
new
areas
can
attract
businesses
and
residents
fostering
economic
growth
within
the
city.
This
growth
can
result
in
more
job
opportunities,
increase
property
values
and
improved
infrastructure,
all
of
which
contribute
to
a
thriving
Urban
environment.
I
Enhanced
services
annexation
often
requires
the
city
to
provide
Municipal
services
to
the
newly
Incorporated
area,
such
as
water,
sewage,
Public,
Safety
and
road
maintenance.
Interlocal
agreement
can
ensure
a
smooth
transition
in
service
provision
and
funding
allocation
between
the
city
and
the
county
in
Shelbyville
and
Shelby
County.
We
both
the
city
and
the
county
governments,
adopted
our
current
and
local
agreement
in
2019,
which
included
a
50
50
split
of
the
occupational
taxes
based
on
the
Baseline
for
shared
Revenue,
fixed
by
ordinance,
as
well
as
splitting
our
net
profits.
I
I
We
no
longer
compete
for
businesses
and
Industry
in
the
community
and
I
realize
every
situation
is
different
in
every
Community,
but
we
no
longer
argue
over
the
water
and
sewer
policies
that
encourage
cooperation,
such
as
in
a
local
cooperation
law,
can
assist
in
addressing
this
issue.
A
one-size-fits-all
approach
is
likely
not
sustainable
for
the
entire
State,
given
the
diversity
of
the
Kentucky's
local
government.
I
Here's
why
a
voluntary
approach
is
preferable.
Local
flexibility,
cities
and
counties
vary
significantly
in
terms
of
size,
population
resources
and
priorities.
A
voluntary
approach
allows
local
governments
to
tailor
their
agreements
to
their
unique
needs,
rather
than
adhering
to
a
one-size-fits-all
mandate.
I
I
Cooperation
born
out
of
shared
interest
is
a
more
sustainable
and
productive
than
forced
compliance.
Voluntary
agreements
promote
a
positive
working
relationship
between
the
city
and
county
officials,
leading
to
a
better
outcome
for
our
residents.
Reduced
administrative
burden
mandated
agreements
could
burden
local
governments
with
additional
bureaucracy
and
compliance
requirements.
I
This
voluntary
approach
reduces
unnecessary
administrative
overhead,
avoiding
resistance
mandates
can
breed
resistance
and
opposition
from
a
local
governments.
Our
voluntary
approach
encourages
collaboration
and
a
sense
of
ownership,
leading
to
more
effective
implementation
of
the
agreements.
In
conclusion,
interlocal
agreements
provide
a
flexible
and
adaptable
framework
for
the
cities
and
counties
to
work
together
when
property
annexation
occurs.
I
H
So
thanks
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
come,
speak
to
you,
I
will
preface
everything
I
say
by
continuing
the
thread
of
thoughts
up
here
by
both
the
county
side
and
the
city
side
that
we
work
really
well
with
Hardin
County,
we're
glad
to
be
in
the
same
county
and
the
same
jurisdiction
that
they're
in
we
have
a
brand
new
County
Judge
who's
sitting
behind
me
who
we're
proud
to
work
with
and
Harry
Berry
who
preceded
him.
We
were
proud
to
work
with
and
we
have
not
had
any
issues.
H
As
the
mayor
said,
there
are
several
different
situations
across
the
state
and
one
shoe
does
not
fit
everyone.
So
I
will
just
speak
to
what
we
experience
in
Elizabethtown
and
Hardin
County
and
give
my
thoughts
and
then
I
want
to
pass
it
over
to
our
city
administrator,
Ed,
Pope
and
then
our
City
attorney
for
some
final
thoughts.
What
we
are
realizing
in
Hardin
County,
especially
with
a
six
billion
dollar
blue
oval
SK
announcement
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
is
that
we're
going
to
be
stretched
pretty
thin
on
a
lot
of
different
things.
H
And
so
we
are
33
000
population
city
right
now,
and
projections
have
that
going
up
20
to
25
000
in
the
next
three
to
five
years.
So
you
can
imagine
what
that
does
to
us
when
we're
looking
at
law
enforcement,
we're
looking
at
fire
protection,
waste
water,
sewer
all
of
the
infrastructures
that
we
have
to
have
and
make
sure
that
we
maintain
and
have
in
place
for
our
citizens
currently
right
now.
Hardin
County
does
a
great
job
with
what
they
have
and
Unfortunately.
H
They
don't
have
any
occupational
tax
and
they
don't
have
any
insurance
premiums
tax.
So
when
the
developers
come
in
which
they
have
been
from
all
over
the
country
and
they're
wanting
to
develop
residential
developments,
contiguous
to
the
city
of
Elizabethtown
and
they're,
obviously
wanting
us
to
Annex
that
property,
because
we
can
get
them
the
sewer
which
increases
their
density,
we're
working
with
them,
and
so
we
need
somewhere
in
the
ballpark.
H
J
I
want
to
reiterate
first
mayor
Gregory's
comments,
our
staff
at
the
city
and
the
county
staff
work
together
extremely
close
on
development
activities.
In
fact,
if
we
most
times
we
talk
daily
about
different
things,
if
not
weekly,
on
different
things,
we
have
joint
meetings.
They
have
served
on
our
task
force.
When
we've
looked
at
our
long-range
plans,
we
serve
on
their
task
force
when
they
look
at
their
long-range
plan.
So
again,
there
is
a
very
strong
Cooperative
relationship
in
our
our
County.
J
What
what
we
have
seen,
though,
specifically
from
annexation
process
for
the
last
20
plus
years,
the
only
annexations
that
the
city
of
Elizabethtown
have
done
have
been
by
request
of
a
property
owner
and
by
their
consent.
So
we
have
not
sought
to
Annex
areas
unless
the
property
owner
first
approached
the
city
of
Elizabethtown
and
in
those
instances
again
in
relationship
to
our
working
relationship
with
the
county.
Their
long-range
plan
actually
identifies
areas
for
future
annexation
possibilities
by
the
city,
as
our
plan
identified
areas
out
in
the
county
that
were
potential
for
future
annexation.
J
Most
of
the
reason,
or
that
we
get
requests
for
annexation
in
Elizabethtown
is
because
we
have
sanitary
sewer
and
it
will
then
benefit
that
development.
From
a
development
standpoint,
the
the
annexations
have
ranged
from
as
small
as
an
acre
or
two
for
a
a
small
business
or
non-profit
that
needed
to
connect
to
our
sewer
system,
up
to
400
acres
in
size
for
mixed-use
future
developments
of
both
residential
and
Commercial
and
in
some
instances
Industrial
Development.
J
Our
community
has
is
about
27
square
miles
for
each
of
the
last
10
years.
We've
added
about
two
square
miles
in
each
decade.
So
it's
been
even
though
our
population
growth
has
exceeded
that
rate.
It
has
been
somewhat
of
a
controlled
planned
effort
between
the
city
and
the
county,
as
we
look
at
our
future
and
the
services
that
we
can
provide.
I
know
one
of
the
comments
about
some
of
the
spot,
annexations
and
quarter
annexations.
J
Our
city
council
has
resisted
that
effort
because
we
recognize
the
ability
to
provide
those
services
along
corridors
to
make
sure
it
is
clear
whether
it
is
a
city
service
or
a
County
service
that
you're
seeking
I
won't
say
that
it's.
It
has
never
happened,
but,
like
I
said
in
recent
efforts
because
of
the
joint
discussions
and
efforts
with
the
county
from
a
service
standpoint,
we
have
avoided
those
type
situations.
F
F
We
don't
have
issues
concerning
annexation.
I
can
remember
one
that
created
opposition,
and
it
was
as
you've
already
heard
here
today
about
alcohol
at
a
golf
course
20
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
it's
frankly
legally
moot
at
this
point,
and
so
you
know
because
Hardin
County
does
not
have
an
occupational
tax
or
an
insurance
premium
tax.
We
just
don't
have
those
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
and
so
you
know
we
cooperate
with
one
another
whenever
development
occurs
and
as
you've
heard
here
today.
F
Typically,
the
county
tax
rolls
go
up
with
the
city
tax
rows
and
there's
not
a
loss
of
revenue
for
anyone.
We
all
gain
revenue
and
so,
as
you're
considering
your
your
challenge
here,
I
think
you.
We
would
ask
that
you
consider
places
across
this
Commonwealth
that
are
like
Hardin,
County
and
Elizabethtown.
It's
not
an
issue
annexation,
and
so
we
would,
you
know,
and
as
Mr
Pope
has
mentioned,
all
of
them
98
9
of
them
are
what
we
call
consent,
annexation,
the
property
owner
requested
and
so
I.
F
A
G
I
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
we
need
to
mandate
all
I
like
to
do
is
offer.
This
is
what's
working
for
our
community
and
just
like
I
said
before,
each
Community
is
going
to
be
different
in
makeup.
It's
it's
a
suggestion.
It's
an
option!
That's
on
the
table,
obviously,
for
communities
to
look
at.
We
do
very
well
just
because
of
the
Golden
Triangle
that
we
are
located
in
being
in
between
the
two
largest
cities
in
the
state.
I
We
also
have
the
advantage
of
having
airports
that
are
close
to
us,
Ohio
River,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
Transportation
pluses
in
regards
to
Industries
and
so
forth.
I
I
think
it's
it's
possibility.
It's
an
option
for
communities
to
look
at,
not
to
say
that
what
we
have
is
perfect,
but
it's
pretty
good.
It's
pretty
solid.
The
fact
that
we're
able
to
incorporate
and
both
agree
to
have
an
occupational
tax,
that's
shared,
including
our
net
profits,
also
something
else
that
was
spoke
about
today
in
regards
to
fire
protection.
I
I
know,
there's
probably
some
concerns
about
fire
departments
that
are
in
tax
districts.
Well,
we've
built
into
our
interlocal
agreement
that
we
have
stipulations
in
there
that
if
we
Annex
property
depending
on
that
year,
the
following
year,
we
look
at
the
assessment
and
the
percentage
of
their
tax
base
and
we
we
pay
the
fire
departments
at
that
point.
I
K
G
That
so
just
you
know
that
that's
what
I'm
saying
you
know,
because
what
we
we
run
into
problems
when,
when
the
counties
and
cities
are
working
together,
we
have
no
problems.
The
problem
arises
when
the
county
and
City
can't
come
to
resolution.
So
what
do
we
do
in
that
instance?
And
if
we
had
some
sort
of
format
and
I'm
just
sharing
that,
along
with
you
with
the
rest
of
the
committee
on
that
variants,
just
say,
but
your
your
interlocal
agreement
was
one
that
we
looked
to
and
admired
so
just.
A
I
A
I
Well,
I
think
it.
It
takes
care
of
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
we're
hearing
today.
A
lot
of
the
we
tried
to
complement
with
Solutions,
with
you
know,
being
able
to
cooperate
amongst
both
governments,
whether
it
be
you
know,
when
we
index
property,
we
do
the
same.
98
percent
is
individual,
they
are
coming
to
us,
they
are
requesting
the
annexation
we've,
we
have
consent
and
it
all
has
to
be
contiguous.
I
You
know
we're
not
hopping
around
the
map.
If
you
will,
properties
have
to
be
contiguous
but-
and
it
just
seemed
like
it-
worked
very
well
and
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
incorporate
the
occupational
taxes
and
the
net
profits
in
there.
Everyone
wins
right.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
everyone
wins
the
city's
growth,
the
County's
growth,
the
residents,
the
community
right.
A
H
H
A
H
I
M
M
The
87
acre
Berea
Industrial
Park
expansion
contains
23
very
small
Parcels,
some
that
were
inside
the
city
limits
and
some
that
were
in
County
jurisdiction
individually.
None
of
those
lots
purchased
by
the
city
would
have
been
large
enough
to
seat
a
large
industry
or
business
collectively.
The
city
now
has
a
master
plan
with
10
lots
that
will
be
marketed
for
Industrial
Development.
If
I
can
work,
the
computer
here,
I'll
show
you
a
little
map
of
that.
There
you
go.
A
M
But
this
is
the
Brie
Industrial
Park
expansion
and
again
this
property
was
acquired
by
the
city
of
Berea
over
a
22-year
period
in
2022,
the
city
of
Berea
Annex,
the
final
Parcels
that
were
not
inside
the
city
limits
that
the
city
had
purchased
over
the
years
and
put
all
87
acres
into
one.
Consolidated
parcel
and
I'll
show
you
a
map
of
that
just
to
get
a
little
graphic
of
how
that
looks.
M
M
With
all
due
diligence
completed
lot,
7
of
the
Industrial
Park
expansion,
which
totals
32.9
acres,
is
currently
under
development,
where
the
city
was
awarded
maximum
funding
under
the
product
development
initiative
in
the
pilot
phase,
and
that
was
to
develop
a
build
ready
site
and
we
don't
have
that
on
the
screen,
but
you
do
have
it
in
your
packet
that
shows
the
award
for
the
PDI.
For
this
particular
parcel.
M
M
Also,
broadly,
limiting
the
ability
of
cities
to
Annex
property
and
develop
the
Kentucky
economy
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
counties.
Our
cities
and,
most
importantly,
a
negative
impact
on
the
citizens
of
our
Commonwealth
I
am
very
fortunate
to
have
an
outstanding
working
relationship
with
my
County
judge,
executive
and
members
of
our
Fiscal
Court.
M
We
work
together
on
many
issues,
impacting
local
governments
and
have
a
great
partnership.
For
example,
we
are
working
with
other
local
governments
involving
three
different
counties
on
a
new
product
development
initiative,
application
for
a
regional
Industrial
Park,
something
that
I
didn't
think
was
possible,
but
we're
moving
forward
and
moving
along
and
as
I,
listen
to
others
that
testified
before
us.
M
Cities
and
counties
across
our
Commonwealth
need
to
be
United
in
our
efforts
to
build
a
Statewide
economy
of
the
future
and
I
hope
that
annexation,
laws
and
policies
considered
by
this
task
force
in
the
general
assembly
in
the
future
will
not
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
Cooperative
experience.
The
Cooperative
spirit
that
local
governments
must
have
for
our
state
to
reach
its
highest
potential.
M
L
Thanks
mayor
again,
my
name
is
Alan
Keck.
It's
been
an
honor
of
my
lifetime
to
get
to
serve
the
city
of
Somerset
and
my
entire
Community
I'm,
a
proud
member
of
the
city
of
Somerset
and
a
lifelong
member
of
Pulaski
County
I
I
want
to
provide
a
moment
of
levity.
Perhaps
you
know
for
Keiko
and
KLC
to
bring
up
Mayors
and
judges
who
all
get
along.
You
know
that's
a
miracle
right.
L
There
I
think
they
deserve
a
round
of
applause
for
bringing
folks
that
do
cooperate,
but
also
think
it's
a
literal
testimony
or
Testament
to
what
can
happen
when
we
do
work
together.
You
know,
I
mentioned
being
a
resident
of
Pulaski.
County
I.
Think
it's
important
for
us
to
note.
While
it
may
seem
Elementary
or
standard
while
now
more
residents
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
live
in
cities,
then
don't
live
in
cities.
L
All
tax
paying
residents
in
cities
are
also
tax,
paying
residents
of
other
County
I
am
a
proud
supporter
and
payer
of
our
jail
and
our
9-1-1
and
contributor
to
all
the
services
that
the
County
government
offers
and
I
don't
say
that
to
create
extra
Division
I,
just
say
it
simply
that
I
am
also
a
County
resident.
We
are
contributing
in
the
same
exact
ways
as
the
County
residents
are
to
those
Services.
You
know
with
that.
I
grew
up
in
the
county.
L
I
grew
up
out,
Highway
39
four
miles
from
the
city
limits
and
I've
always
been
a
proud
Pulaski
County
and
even
as
mayor
of
our
largest
city,
I
continue
to
to
be
proud.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
win-win
we've
been
blessed
in
our
community,
our
entire
Community,
with
some
historic
results
in
the
last
four
or
five
years.
I'll
start
by
talking
a
little
bit
about
growth
and
I
want
to
finish
with
that.
In
the
last
10
years,
the
city
of
Somerset
has
grown
at
almost
three
times
the
state
average.
L
Our
county
has
also
grown
almost
two
times.
The
state
average
I
think
a
big
reason
for
that
is
working
together,
as
was
mentioned
by
other
Mayors
and
judges
through
a
series
of
interlocutal
agreements.
We
have
put
politics
aside
or
local
egos
aside
to
better
the
lives
quality
of
life
for
all
of
our
citizens
as
a
result
of
those
interlocal
agreements
that
include
occupational
tax
insurance
premium
tax,
even
an
EMS
agreement,
because
in
our
community
the
city
provides
that
service
with
some
financial
help
from
the
county
to
the
entire
County.
L
We
have
seen
record
results,
not
just
in
population
growth,
but
in
Economic
Development.
Over
300
million
dollars
of
jobs
of
projects
announced
hundreds
of
jobs
lives
being
changed.
Our
Economic
Development
Authority
has
led
the
state
on
re-entry
in
programs
for
Workforce
Development
training
with
those
shared
dollars
and
I
want
to
close
by
talking
more
about
growth.
My
encouragement
to
this
task
force
and
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say.
Thank
you,
I
apologize
for
not
saying
thanks
as
I
opened.
L
My
remarks
is
Let's
Be
growth,
oriented
and
growth
minded
with
whatever
solution
that
you
come
up
with,
you
know
many
of
you
know
I
think.
Probably
all
of
you
know
that
Kentucky
has
struggled
for
a
long
time.
The
last
decade
we
just
experienced
our
second
slowest
decade
of
population
growth
into
100
years.
We're
battling
so
many
challenges
and
appreciate
the
work
of
the
general
assembly.
N
N
The
issue
is
the
revenue
that
is
parsed
out
taken
away
or
dealt
with
because
of
the
issue
of
annexation,
because
you
have
really
three
really
important
parties
in
this
entire
discussion.
You
have
cities
in
the
discussion,
you
have
counties
in
the
discussion
and
you
have
property
owners
in
the
discussion.
You
know
there
was
a
discussion
earlier
about
holes
in
annexation
in
the
the
map
in
Bowling,
Green
was
brought
up
and
we
talked
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
I
would
argue
that
consensual
annexation
in
those
situations
is
working
exactly
as
it
should.
N
We
can
talk
about
shoestring
or
cord
or
annexation
and
I
happen
to
have
what
I
think
are
two
of
the
largest
success
stories
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky.
Right
now,
in
my
district
on
the
north
end
of
my
district
and
on
this
or
well
kind
of
the
middle
of
my
district
in
the
south
end
of
my
district,
because
we
have
the
Kentucky
trans
park
right
in
the
heart
of
my
district
and
it
was
a
Cooperative
product
between
the
leadership
of
Judge
Buchanan
and
the
Warren
County
government,
and
also
the
the
cooperation
of
the
city
government.
N
Right
now,
what
was
formerly
an
agricultural
area,
a
farm
right
there
and
frankly,
the
trans
Park
was
too,
has
now
been
developed
into
a
subdivision
with
multi-million
dollar
homes
and
one
of
the
Premier
golf
courses,
not
just
in
Kentucky
but
in
the
entire
nation.
If
you
look
at
it
a
world-class
facility
there
and-
and
you
know
it,
it
illustrates
the
differences
in
what
communities
see
in
each
different
Community
out
of
120
counties
and
over
400
cities,
because
the
alcohol
issue
judge
McKenzie,
you
mentioned
being
a
problem
in
your
community.
N
Well,
frankly,
the
alcohol
issue
was
probably
what
led
to
the
annexation
at
Old
Stone,
because
if
you
couldn't
have
had
alcoholic
beverages
served,
would
that
have
been
as
successful
of
a
golf
course
as
what
it
is
today?
Would
they
have
been
able
to
do
what
they
were
able
to
do
with
their
Clubhouse
and
their
facilities
there,
and
so
each
and
every
community
in
this
discussion
is
different.
N
It's
not
a
problem
of
annexation.
It's
the
problem
of
how
do
we
get
the
revenue
policy?
Correct
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
this
a
little
bit
and
and
the
other
role
that
I
serve
in
now
is
banking.
An
insurance
chair
and
I
know
that
that
insurance
premium
tax
continues
to
be
a
discussion
in
this,
but
I
just
caution.
Everybody
right
now
in
a
time
that
we're
looking
at
20
increases
in
insurance
policies
across
the
state.
In
many
many
places,
that's
a
that.
N
That
is
an
area
that
is
local
officials
and
as
state
officials.
When
we
talk
about
the
premium
tax,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
very,
very
careful
in
so
that
we
don't
price
the
insurance
Marketplace
out
of
the
state
right
now
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
mention
that
in
this
discussion
as
well,
I
do
think
that
there's
Merit
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
deal
with
the
the
situation
with
occupational
net
profit
and
gross
receipts
tax.
N
If
communities
won't
work
together
in
a
Cooperative
manner
like
many
of
the
ones
that
have
been
here
today
and
have
some
form
of
a
lender,
local
agreement
or
something
like
that
to
work
through
those
issues
and
so
I.
Just
think
that
today,
it
has
been
great
to
hear
from
communities
who
have
found
a
way
to
work
together
and
who
have
been
success
stories
because
of
their
work
together
and
I.
O
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I'd,
like
most
of
you,
I
was
not
a
child
in
the
80s
I
was
I,
was
a
property
tax
payer
and
I
didn't
know
or
care
if
it
was
city
or
county
I,
just
didn't
like
paying
taxes
so,
but
mayor
Fraley,
I,
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
it
took
you
22
years
to
purchase
this
land.
So
did
you
purchase
it
or
Annex
it
or
do
both.
M
Both
that
was
purchased
by
the
Berea
Industrial
Development
Authority
over
a
22-year
period-
and
that
was
some
of
those
Parcels-
were
in
County
jurisdiction
and
some
were
out
it's
much
like
the
the
map
that
they
showed
at
Bowling
Green,
that
represented
Bridges,
mentioned
where
you
had
the
pockets
and
you
it
looked
like
a
jigsaw
puzzle
where
one
area
was
one
lot
would
be
in
the
city.
One
was
out,
so
those
were
some
of
those
were
annexed
over
time.
O
Right
could
I
have
one
more
question.
You
know
we
were
talking
I
think
it
was.
The
counties
was
talking
about
a
12
million
dollar
shortfall
when
the
cities
annexed.
Something
was
that
calculated
by
what
would
have
been
by
the
annexation
of
future
progress,
or
was
that
what
they
ought
was
were
already
that
they
already
had
and
lost
because
of
the
annexation.
I.
Think
that
if
you
don't
mind.
C
So
that's
the
amount
of
Revenue
Scott
County
gets
from
their
occupational
tax
and
they're
able
to
get
that
on
a
yearly
basis,
and
that's
what
that,
what's
in
their
budget,
if
they
were
on
the
same
Level,
Playing
Field
as
Warren
County
under
the
laws,
they're
functioning
under
a
different
law
because
of
how
the
law
was
written
years
ago.
Okay,.
G
G
L
No,
it's
a
super
fair
question.
Actually
I've
been
asked
the
question:
if
I
could
identify
my
biggest
mistake
or
regret,
what
would
it
be
and
I
usually
go
right
to
annexation?
We
we
embarked
on
what
probably
would
have
been
the
most
aggressive
I'll,
say:
unilateral
annexation
project
in
the
history
of
the
state,
and
we
were
doing
it
not
for
Revenue
grab,
because
I
wanted
my
community
to
grow
and
like
the
rest
of
the
state,
we
were
still
in
stagnant
and
we
weren't.
L
We
were
under
that
magic
number,
20
000,
where
a
lot
of
companies
are
commercial
entities,
won't
come
to
your
community
because
you're
too
small
we
embarked
on
it
I
quickly
learned
that
County
residents
absolutely
despised
it
threats
on
me,
my
family
and
a
lot
of
my
friends
very
quickly.
I
learned
this
was
not
in
fact
what
the
community
wanted,
and
so
I
tried
to
do.
What
a
lot
of
politicians
or
elected
leaders
won't.
Do
I
listened
I
stopped
and
in
that
moment
I
pledged
there
will
be
no
more
forced
annexation
plans
under
my
Administration.
L
So,
in
spite
of
just
still
look,
if
you
look
at
the
somerset
growth
in
the
last
three
or
four
years,
A
lot
of
it
has
been
via
annexation.
A
lot
of
those
industrial
projects
have
occurred
as
a
result
of
that
it
has
all
been
100
percent,
been
consensual,
annexation
and
so
I
think
now
we're
meeting
this.
What
representative
Meredith
said?
Is
we
found
a
solution?
You
know
if
the
community
doesn't
want
it,
this
way
we're
going
to
grow.
In
spite
of
that,
do
I
regret
it.
F
G
Betterment
of
all
our
communities,
whether
it's
county
or
city,
however,
when
we've
got
counties
and
cities
that
can't
get
along
you're,
not
going
to
have
a
company
wanting
to
spend
a
half
a
billion,
a
billion
dollars
of
investment
into
that
Community
when
the
cities
and
counties
are
at
each
other's
throats,
so
that
that's
I
think
that's
the
real
purpose
behind
it.
And
what
we're
hearing
today,
the
working
together
the
interlocal
agreements,
the
the
strive
to
come
to
a
consensus
before
it
before
it's
out
there.
In
the
newspaper.
L
Can
I
comment
on
that
yeah
sure?
Please
do
I
think
it's
it's
important
even
after
that
challenge.
Initially,
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
revenue,
that's
happened
in
our
community
since
that
moment.
In
the
last
four
years,
the
city's
occupational
tax
revenue
is
up
over
a
million
dollars
and
for
a
town
of
twelve
thousand
that's
a
huge
deal.
The
county
is
up
over
three
million
dollars
in
that
same
period.
L
It
is
genuinely
a
win-win
and,
to
your
final
point,
that
if
communities
and
Community
leaders
can't
get
along
and
I
say
this
with
as
much
respect
for
you
all
in
your
service
as
I
can
you're
not
going
to
force
them
to
I.
Think
it's
up
to
those
communities
that
that
was
Somerset
in
Pulaski
County
under
old
administrations.
The
community
then
seems
to
step
up
and
elect
leaders
who
are
going
to
put
the
community
first
city
and
county,
not
just
their
own
interest
and
I.
Don't
know
that
that
can
be
solved
in
any
committee
up
here.
A
A
A
Very
often,
and
before
before
you
before,
you
give
your
testimony,
we
need
to
approve
our
minutes,
so
the
minutes
we're
giving
out
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
our
minutes
motion.
Second
by
representative
Dixon
seconded
by
Senator
nemus,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
okay,
Senator
nemus.
You
can
leave.
K
I'm
Robert
Blythe
served
as
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Richmond
very
good.
Welcome.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
considered
it
such
my
friend
and
colleague
just
said.
Sorry,
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
I
don't
feel
on
the
spot,
because
Everywhere
I
Go
I
find
myself
talking
about
Bucky's.
K
Will
next
trip
I
wasn't
planning
this,
but
that
has
been
a
tremendous
boost
to
the
city
of
Richmond.
We
we
looked
at
some
maps
earlier
about
annexation,
expansion
of
cities
and
oftentimes
I,
find
myself
pointing
out
to
Folks
at
Richmond
has
a
tail
because
our
city
limits
go
down
the
Interstate
I-75
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
were
able
to
acquire
the
buckies
in
the
city.
K
Limits
of
Richmond
I
often
applaud
our
utilities
board
for
having
the
wisdom
some
years
ago
to
put
in
the
infrastructure
in
those
areas
that
were
Acquired
and
that
made
us
ready,
particularly
at
Exit
83,
which
is
where
Bucky's
is
located.
There
was
a
time
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
Now
Baptist
preaching
with
a
microphone.
K
You
know,
you
know,
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
but
or
two
three
years
ago,
and
we
actually
opened
in
April
of
last
year,
but
for
the
first
several
weeks
the
Bucky's
would
be
a
manager
at
it
was
10
minutes
till
six.
They
were
to
open
at
six
and
he
said
mayor.
Would
you
like
to
officially
open
the
store
and
I
said?
What
do
you
mean?
K
He
said,
would
you
like
to
open
the
doors
and
I
was
like
the
Black
Friday
atmosphere,
of
course,
with
the
folks
and
and
there's
some
there's
some
there's
some
buckies
if
I
may
use
the
term
Bucky's
groupies
I
mean
these.
It's
almost
cultic
and
I
I.
Tell
you
what
countdown
with
me
three
two
one:
we
threw
the
doors
open
and
the
rest
is
history
now
there,
but
when
the
vice
president
of
real
estate
of
buckies
showed.
P
D
P
D
Well,
the
the
interlocal
agreement
actually
occurred
in
the
pre,
my
predecessor,
so
I
was
coming
into
office,
so
I
I
inherited
this
agreement
so
but
it
allowed
for
the
city
and
the
county
both
to
to
work
together
through
revenues
and
and
the
repayment
of
the
debt
that
we
took
home
for
the
novellas
project.
It
has
been
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
city
of
Guthrie,
so.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
you
stole
my
thunder
there.
Mayor
communication
is
very
healthy,
it's
very,
very
healthy,
and
today
what
I've
kind
of
taken
in
everyone
works
a
little
bit
differently.
When
I
hear
from
the
my
my
good
friend,
mayor,
Gregory
and
E-Town
in
Hardin
County,
where
there's
no
occupational
tax
and
insurance
tax
I'm
curious
to
see
how
that
works
and
as
a
model.
That
might
be
something
that
we
can
go
with.
I
I,
don't
know!
Q
When
I
hear
mayor
Fraley
talk
about
you
all
working
together
on
that
industrial
Foundation
again
what
that
looks
like
as
a
model
that
our
task
force
that
we've
put
together
in
in
this.
You
know
situation
here
and
look
at
some
different
models
because,
again
across
the
state
of
Kentucky
everybody's,
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
and
they
do
business
a
little
bit
different,
but
obviously
there's
some
but
the.