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A
Aye
motion
carries
total
number
of
items
on
the
agenda.
Today
are
207
in
the
amount
of
91
million
six
hundred
seventy
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty
six
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
All
vendors
on
the
february
agenda
are
registered
with
the
secretary
of
state's
office
next
on
the
deferred
list
is
number
69
from
the
july
routine,
psc
green
list.
If
representatives
are
here,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
E
In
fact,
the
proposal
period
has
closed
and
we're
now
reviewing
the
submissions
that
we
have
for
technical
compliance,
that
shouldn't
take
very
long
and
we
expect
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
and
and
hopefully
enter
into
a
new
contract
as
we
once
we're
assured
that
the
proposal
meets
the
technical
requirements.
So
I
can't
give
you
a
specific
time.
Of
course,
these
the
process
does
take
some
time,
but
I
would
hope
that
with
within
the
next
month
to
six
weeks
or
so
that
that
we
will
have
a
new
contract.
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A
F
A
A
Motion
carries
the
last
item
on
the
deferred
list
is
number
46
from
the
january
routine,
psc
contract
list,
the
vendor
is
still
not
registered
and
the
university
is
requesting
another
deferral.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
to
defer
motion
by
representative
hart
second
device
co-chair
cook?
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
vote
I'll
oppose
vote,
no
clerk.
Please
call
the
row.
A
Aye
motion
carries
next
order
of
business
consideration.
The
agenda,
including
the
deferred
list,
corrections
list
personal
service
contract
list,
psc
amendment
list,
memorandum
of
agreement
list,
memorandum
of
agreement,
amendment
list
and
kentucky
entertainment
incentive
program
agreement
list,
except
for
those
items
selected
for
further
review,
is
or
a
motion
consider
the
contracts
review
without
objection.
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Services
you
thank
you,
ms
cecil,
for
joining
us
today
and
I
requested
this
contract
be
pulled,
and
my
concern
is
an
issue
that
we've
had
the
previous
contract.
This
nature,
where
we
engage
consultants
to
look
at
programs
or
or
audit
programs,
make
suggestion
recommendation
and
then
they're
followed
up
with
another
contract.
Saying
oh
well,
we're
going
to
now
check
the
work
that
we've
outlined,
and
I
just
don't
understand.
A
A
I
don't
disagree
with
the
work
and
the
issue
again
is
you
know
we
we've
had
a
relationship
with
one
vendor
and
certainly
we're
relying
on
their
expertise,
but
now
we've
asked
him
to
extend
the
scope
of
their
project
and
you
know
there's
not
a
really
a
competitive
bid
for
this.
So
how
do
we
know
we're
getting
value?
G
A
Excuse
later,
but
you
missed,
my
point
here
is
yeah.
Of
course,
they've
got
the
knowledge,
because
you've
engaged
them
to
do
that,
but
my
concern
is
now
we're
engaging
for
another
period
of
time
to
do
this
additional
work
and
we're
relying
on
them
because
they
have
this
expertise
which
they
gained
from
us
contracting
with
them.
To
begin
with-
and
my
question
specifically
is:
why
didn't
we
include
this
in
the
original
rfp?
It
should
have
been
anticipated
and
how
do
we
know
we're
getting
good
value
because
they
know
themselves
that
they
know
us.
G
Senator
again,
if
we
could
have
anticipated,
we
certainly
would
have
included
it
initially,
but
we
did
run
out
of
contract
extensions
and
we're
still
in
the
process
of
doing
some
implementation
work
around
the
single
mco
pvm
to
procure
a
new
vendor
and
to
get
them
up
to
speed.
We're
talking
910
months
down
the
road
and-
and
we
felt
like
this-
is
something
we've
done
six
months
of
the
implementation.
We
really
wanted
to
step
back
and
take
a
look.
G
We
had
no
more
contract
extensions
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
the
work,
and
so
it
really
kind
of
was
about
the
contract,
extensions
that
we
ran
out
of
the
time
to
have
them,
perform
that,
and
so
we've
done
six
months
of
the
implementation.
This
is
now
the
time
to
step
back
and
and
do
an
evaluation
of
it.
A
B
A
Like
we've
got
our
back
up
against
the
wall,
we
have
no
choice
on
this
because
they've
got
the
information,
they've
kind
of
set
up
the
system.
We
have
to
do
it
with
them.
It's
just
my
disappointment
that
we
don't
anticipate
these
things
and
try
to
get
every
bang
for
our
buck,
and
we
don't
do
that
particularly.
G
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A
I'm
aware
that
you
didn't
spend
all
the
funds,
but
that's
irrelevant
to
the
issue
at
hand,
but
again
I'm
just
going
to
just
record
mine
and
displeasure
with
this
whole
process.
I
don't
like
it.
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
with
these
consulting
contracts,
don't
like
them
to
begin
with,
but
it
is
what
it
is,
but
if
nobody
has
any
other
questions
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
take
action
on
this
contract.
A
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J
E
E
Bigger
animal
we're
dealing
with
and-
and
I
do
completely
understand
that
if
they
very
much
got
the
same
contract,
they
have
inside
information,
they've
been
working
on
it,
but
I
do
think
that
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
you
have
the
ability
to
build
out
is
for
trust
in
the
system.
So
people
understand
that,
and
so
it
is
something.
E
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F
I
may
explain
my
vote,
mr
chairman,
most
certainly
I
vote.
I
feel
like
we're
backed
into
a
corner
on
this.
I
believe
we
have
to
pass
it.
I
certainly
agree
with
everything,
senator
southworth,
senator
yates
and
and
what
you
have
said,
mr
chairman,
I
I
believe
all
those
are
correct.
I
feel
like
it's
kind
of
forced
us
back
us
into
a
corner
and
therefore
our
vote.
A
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A
This
with
again
department
of
medicaid
services,
universal
research
foundation,
medical
consulting
430
thousand
dollars,
it's
increased
by
31
000
is
for
funds
for
the
medical
director
assist
identifying
trends
regarding
the
managed
care
organizations,
as
well
as
remaining
fee
for
service
population
to
promote
quality
health
services
outcome.
First
question
I
have
is
why
the
31
thousand
dollar
increase.
G
So
we've
utilized
this
contract
to
for
our
medical
director
since
states
fiscal
year
13..
The
current
increase
is
due
to
the
medical
director
going
from
0.8
to
full
time.
We
determined
that
there's
just
enough
work
that
we
need
first
to
have
somebody
full
time
previously.
The
dr
judy
terrio,
our
medical
director,
would
do
clinicals
for
time
to
time
and
so
to
keep
you
know
in
in
the
office
and
in
in
serving
patients.
But
now
she's
gonna
be
dedicated
full
time
to
medicaid.
A
A
G
She
had
we
had
conversations
with
her
that
the
work
in
medicaid
was
significant
and
she
was
having
to
dedicate
more
and
more
hours
to
provide
the
services
as
medical
director
as
medicaid
medical
director.
And
so
we
made
the
decision
that
that
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
medicaid
to
have
her
as
a
full-time.
G
She
works
very
closely
with
the
managed
care
organization.
She
leads
the
meeting
with
all
the
medical
directors
they
work
together
to
try
to
align
policies
and
and
review
quality
and
care
and
then
help
implement,
especially
around
our
quality
strategy,
to
try
to
help
implement
best
practices
and
evidence-based
treatment.
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J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Typically,
as
I
read
through
these,
I
have
at
least
half
a
clue
by
the
description.
What
we're
talking
about
in
this
situation
that
has
reduced
to
maybe
25
or
less
and
as
I'm
looking
at
the
contract,
it's
one
of
these
kind
of
scribbled
out
in
microsoft.
Word
looking
thing
from
about
the
late
90s,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
is
the
project
and
what
are
we
doing
with
this.
K
So
that
includes
running
the
24
7
emergency
operations,
center
notifying
individuals
via
electronic
means
in
other
ways
of
incidents
within
the
area
operating
all
of
the
dynamic
message
signs
on
the
interstate,
putting
out
net
alerts,
which
is
notify
every
truck
which
is
intended
to
help
commercial
vehicles,
understand,
what's
happening
as
far
as
system
disruptions
or
closures
due
to
incidents
or
other
items,
and
they
also
work
statewide
with
our
intelligent
transportation
systems,
repairs.
So
all
of
our
traffic
cameras
and
dynamic
message
signs
around
the
state.
They
perform
maintenance
on
those
items
as
well.
K
K
J
A
A
B
A
F
A
F
A
That's
that's
what
amazed
me
as
I
go
through
the
rest
of
these
contracts.
We're
gonna
spend
close
to
a
million
dollars
on
executive
search
firms
tonight
if
we
approve
all
the
contracts-
and
this
obviously
is
a
big
big
position-
and
I'm
just
curious
as
how
you
were
you're,
either
great
at
negotiating
contracts
or.
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F
Yes
and
make
a
brief
statement
of
the
vein,
mr
chairman,
yes,
well,
certainly
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
I've
worked
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
all
a
lot
over
in
bourbon
county
economic
development
cabinet,
the
last
four
or
five
years,
and
you
always
send
top
people
out
there
and
been
very
helpful
helpful
to
us
and
growing
our
industrial
park.
So
thank
you
for
all.
You
do
well.
Thank
you
representative.
We
we
try
to
have
top
people
at
the
cabinet
and
we're
really
fortunate
to
have
him
right
now.
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
gonna
find
my
contract
information,
but
I'm
looking
at
these
and
I
just
as
interesting
to
see
what
all
we've
got
going
on
here,
but
I
was
trying
to
get
a
better
handle
on
the
costs
and
the
tax
incentive
and
like
how
much.
That
is.
How
much
is
it
costing
us
to
give
it
and
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
on
the
numbers.
L
But
I
also
want
to
thank
you
chairman
for
helping
us
with
the
guidelines
we
did
put.
This
is
our
first
month
first
round
of
approvals
for
our
what
we're
now
calling
the
kentucky
entertainment
incentive
program
it
was
transferred
to
us
last
year
and
we
kind
of
I
guess,
effective
january
1st,
we're
beginning
to
administer
the
program.
So
last
year
in
december,
we
had
our
kedfa
board
put
together
some
guidelines
they're
available
on
our
website.
L
Counties
they're
eligible
for
30
30
excuse
me
of
the
qualifying
expenditures
and
30
percent
of
payroll
expenditures.
But
if
they're
kentucky
residents-
that's
35,
so
this
is
think
these
are
all
calculations
that
were
spelled
out
in
the
statute
that
we
then
put
into
the
guidelines.
So
it's
kind
of
the
program
guidelines
that
you
all
provided
to
us
and
we're
just
following
those
and
instituting
those
calculations.
When
we're
doing
the
approvals
for
the
incentive.
J
So
now
that
we
and
we're
having
these
discussions
as
a
policy
matter-
and
you
know
the
number
30
or
35
or
whatever
just
I
guess-
it's
other
people
are
doing
it.
I
can't
remember
all
the
reasons
we
have
that,
but
anyway,
now
that
we
have
some
hard
numbers
to
look
at
I'm
looking
through
these
charts.
So,
for
example,
I'm
on
number
one,
which
is
the
haunted,
discoveries
and
we've
got
the
in
it's
a
multi-county
deal
right.
So
you
have
the
enhanced
county
here.
J
You've
got
the
other
counties
and
it
all
adds
up
to
all
their
different
expenditures,
the
total
expenditures,
4.5
million
dollars,
and
then
it
says
minimum
required
qualifying
project
expenditures,
125,
and
then
we
get
a
breakdown
of
the
different
folks
and
then
it
says:
total
negotiated
tax
incentive
amount.
One
point
four
just
about
so
you
know
that's,
you
know
approximately
the
third
mark,
or
so
we
just
round
it
off.
J
L
Is
a
threshold
so
that's
to
show
that
the
project
actually
qualifies
so
the
minimum
thresholds
are
for
if
it's
a
kentucky
based
company
for
feature
film,
tv,
industrial,
film,
125
000..
If
it's
an
out
of
state
company,
it's
250
000
that
they
have
to
have.
If
it's
a
documentary,
it
is
ten
thousand
dollars
if
it's
a
kentucky
based
company
twenty
thousand,
if
it's
not
and
then,
if
it's
a
broadway
production,
it's
twenty
thousand
dollars.
So
these
are
all
kind
of
requirements.
L
So
we
put
this
on
the
board
report
for
our
kefir
board
and
for
the
public
to
see
that
that
is
the
minimum
required
expenditure
for
eligibility
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
right
below
the
table,
so
they
do
qualify.
Thus,
the
incentive
that
we're
approving
them,
for,
though,
is
the
1.4
million
and
that's
based
on
the
the
calculations
of
the
30
and
35
percent.
J
And
the
total
negotiated
tax
incentive
amount
being
a
third
of
the
total
expenditures,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
on
these.
Let's
say
for
on
the
payroll
expenditures,
for
example:
well
you're
going
to
have
is
that
inclusive
of
payroll
taxes
or
that's
just
their
gross
or
debt?
I'm
I'm
just
kind
of
trying
to
get.
L
Not
taxes,
that's
what
we
are
proving
them
to
be
eligible
for
a
tax
credit.
This
is
a
tax
credit
program,
so
they
are
paying
the
payroll
and
they're
paying
and
all
they'll
be
paying
payroll
taxes
on
top
of
these
salaries
and
then
they'll
be
paying
all
of
the
expenditures
as
well,
so
the
the
tax,
the
incentive
that
we're
approving
them
for
is
actually
a
tax
credit
they'll
file,
a
corporate
income
tax
return.
Well,.
J
Okay,
I
guess
I
maybe
didn't
clarify
my
question
clear
enough.
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea.
What
would
the
normal
tax
total
amount
be
on
something
like
this
4.5
million
dollar
project?
Would
it
normally
be
1.4
would
be
normally
over
that
or
less
than
that,
so
we've
qualified
them
for
more
than
they
may
end
up
needing
to
even
pay
so
they're
going
to
have
a
ceiling
there.
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
where
what
the
normal
tax
amount
would
be,
that
we
are
providing.
L
So
for
the
payroll
I
mean
you
could
look
at
it.
Possibly
the
the
taxes
would
be
five
percent
for
the
state
payroll
for
the
payroll
taxes
for
an
individual.
But
when
you
get
into
the
qualifying
expenditures
a
lot
of
times
I
mean
you
can
maybe
look
at
it,
as
six
percent
of
that
would
be
potentially
sales
tax.
If
the
purchasers
are
eligible
for
sales
taxes,
but
there
and
then
you've
also
got
that
there
other
taxes
that
may
be
paid
that
we
don't
know
about
as
part
of
the
production
and
the
filming.
J
Have
right
final
question,
then:
is
it
fair
to
say
more
than
likely
we
used
to
have
this
program?
Didn't
we
something
like
it?
There
was.
It
was
the
formerly
the
film
credit.
Is
this
about
the
same
amount
that
used
to
be
in
your
experience
in
the
past?
Did
you
see
where
this
number
1.4
is
above
what
they
actually
were
able
to
claim
senator.
F
J
J
L
F
And
I
really
do
want
to
commend
katie's
team.
I
mean
in
building
out
the
regulations
for
this
and
and
onboarding
the
program.
They
worked
a
lot
of
nights
and
weekends
people
say
you
know,
there's
a
thing
out
there
about
how
government
workers
don't
work
that
hard.
I've
never
seen
that.
I
think
you
know
I'm
incredibly
impressed
by
how
hard
people
work
all
around,
usually
for
less
than
they
would
make
in
the
private
sector
to
try
to
do
a
good
job,
and
I
would
also
note
other
cabinets
are
good
negotiators.
E
It's
on
record.
I
learned
that
the
hard
way
she
got
talking
there
used
to
be
the
the
film
credit
program,
that's
correct
and
in
in
kentucky
we've
recently
seen
a
lot
of
filming
from
different
music
videos,
and
things
like
that.
I
didn't
realize
the
cost
of
that
so
significant.
Do
they
fall
within
this
new
program?
I
know
I
guess
have
you
doesn't
look
like
they're
listed
specifically
in
there,
but
would
it
fall
under
the
short
film
because
that
may
be
encouraging,
since
we're
trying
to
draw
in
those
dollars.
L
L
They
have
to
reach
out
to
us
and
we're
talking
to
them
more
so
before
we
share
the
application
with
them.
But
we've
got
some
feature
films.
They
can
either
be
for
movie
films,
for
you
know,
movie
theaters
or,
for
you
know,
streaming
services
such
as
apple
netflix
or
it
can
be
for
tv
we've
got.
Tv
shows
the
first
two
that
we
have
are
tv
series,
but
nothing
like
a
news
or
commercial
or
eligible.
L
E
L
E
Understand
the
idea
and
the
incentive
of
wanting
to
draw
that
in
I
just
know
we
have
a
lot
of
local
talent
that
we
could
potentially
encourage
to
come
back
here
as
opposed
to
shooting
in
other
places.
So
maybe,
if
it's
not
included,
maybe
it's
something
we
could
look
at,
but
I
appreciate
your.
I
don't
mean
to
drop
but
questions
being
new
to
it,
but
pique
my
interest
and
see
if
you
knew
that
answer.
F
F
Just
comment:
I'm
happy
to
see
these
on
here.
In
fact,
I
hope
we
see
more
of
them
because
so
many
times
you
get
focused
when
somebody's
looking
at
this
and
they
see
a
tax
tax
incentive
out
there.
Oh,
it's
140
million
dollars
that
we're
not
getting
in
taxes,
and
that
becomes
the
focus
of
the
whole
thing.
F
But
what
the
focus
needs
to
be
are
the
jobs
that
are
being
created,
payroll
tax,
everything
that
the
infrastructure
that
you
are
bringing
in
so
whether
whether
you're
putting
you
know
the
entertainment
services
in
here
or
whether
you're
bringing
a
big
industry
or
coming
into
a
certain
industrial
park,
it's
competitive
out
there
and
when
you
start
throwing
and
it's
competitive
from
canada
county
it's
competitive
from
state
to
state,
and
so
we
have
to.
You
have
to
be
aggressive,
as
you
all
well
know,
and
so,
let's
you
know,
get
them
in
here.
A
To
echo
his
sentiments
therapy,
you
know
before
we
made
this
recent
change.
We
had
pretty
much
decimated
that
industry
in
kentucky,
because
the
tax
credits
weren't
available-
and
I
never
understood
that
logic,
because
it
was
a
30
tax
credit
but
I'd
say,
would
you
rather
have
60
of
of
something
or
30
of
nothing?
And
that's
where
we
are
but
you're
correct?
A
C
A
J
My
vote,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
I'm
voting,
I
and
I
do
hope
I
would
like
to
find
out
if
you
could
maybe
check
with
tourism,
to
find
out
what
the
actual
rate
of
use
was
on.
Maybe
some
historical
examples.
That
would
be
really
helpful
for
me.
That's
really,
I
think,
the
last
piece
of
the
program.
You
know
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
these
projects
blow
into
the
state
that
we
wouldn't
otherwise
have
gotten,
because
it's
not
about
just
the
talent
that
we
have
here.
A
C
A
C
C
A
I
don't
recall
that
legislation,
not
that
I'm
doubting
it
just
seems
like
a
strange
flow
of
dollars,
particularly
since
so
you
know
we're
dealing
developing
something,
that's
curriculum
based
and
I
just
assume
it
will
come
through
the
kda,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
Any
other
questions
comments,
motion
by
senator
yates
and
second
by
senator
douglas
all
those
favorite
emotional
vote.
Aye
all
opposed
vote,
no
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
A
C
C
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
melissa
and
donna
thank
you
for
being
with
us
here
this
afternoon.
I
absolutely
love
the
kentucky
horse
park.
I
love
all.
Our
state
parks
love
the
state
park
because
it
deals
with
horses,
I'm
in
the
horse
industry
and
it's
close
to
my
house.
I
guess
so
currently
in
my
district,
but
so
I'm
very
concerned
watch
everything
watch
over
there.
It's
obviously
a
big
economic
driver
for
everything
that
we
have
going
on.
F
I
think
we
all
remember
the
herald
leader
news
reports
when
all
that
broke
that's
been
several
several
years
ago,
and
I
see
the
contract
coming
through
here.
We've
got
looks
like
a
mr
carter
coming
on
to
take
the
reins
and
take
over
everything.
I'm
just
curious
make
sure
the
rfb
contract
was
followed
and
if
you
guys
can
just
talk
to
us
about
that
a
little
bit,
it
would
be
great
and
everything
that
went
into
hiring
mr
carter.
C
Oh
okay,
thank
you,
sir,
for
the
question
I
issued
an
rfp
and
in
that
rfp
we
crafted
the
scope
of
work
and
tried
to
be
extremely
thorough
with
what
we,
what
type
of
leader
we
would
look
for
to
be
the
executive
director
of
the
kentucky
horse
park
upon
closing
the
rfp.
I
also
selected,
we
selected
a
committee
of
seven
people.
C
They
were
very
knowledgeable
about
the
horse
industry
and
the
executive
and
the
needs
of
the
horse
park
and
the
executive
director
upon
evaluating
all
of
the
respondents.
There
were
three
candidates
and
mr
carter
was
the
highest
scorer
of
that
rfp,
and
so
with
that
we
have
awarded
the
personal
service
contract
to
him.
F
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
B
G
F
A
Yes,
ma'am
appreciate
you
joining
us.
Anyone
else
all
right
again.
The
reason
I
pulled
this
contract
is
just
a
lot
of
attention
being
given
to
the
nursing,
professional
right
now
and
obviously
the
shortage
we're
trying
to
address,
and
while
this
isn't
a
substantial
amount
of
money,
I'm
just
curious
as
to
why
specific
to
baptist
health,
deaconess
medicine
bill.
M
The
idea
came
to
us
when
I
was
talking
to
their
human
resources
person
about
the
nurse
shortage
last
year,
when
we
first
when
we
prepared
the
proposal,
they
had
40
vacancies,
rn
vacancies
alone.
In
fact,
I
just
talked
to
their
hr
person
lori
oglesby
earlier
this
morning
and
that's
almost
doubled.
They
have
90
vacancies
now,
so
it
it's
a
lot
of
attrition.
We
chose
baptist
health
because
they've
been
solid,
good
partners
with
madisonville
community
college
for
several
decades,
they've
helped
underwrite
expansion
of
our
nursing
program.
M
We
could
conduct
the
research
necessary
to
determine
what
it
is:
that's
causing
this
unprecedented
attrition
rate
among
the
nursing
and
allied
health
workforce.
So
I
guess
the
short
answer
is,
sir,
that
we've
worked
with
them
in
the
past.
We
have
a
wonderful
working
relationship
and
it
should
give
us
the
information.
We
need
to
develop
strategies
that
we
can
disseminate
beyond
baptist
health
within
our
service
area,
but
once
we
we
need
to
find
out
what
that
information
is
and
how
we
can
help
address
the
attrition
problem.
M
M
M
A
M
First,
yes,
first,
we
will
work
with
the
baptist
health
administration
to
identify.
Currently,
you
know
employed
nurses
who
are
willing
to
participate
and
also
identify
those
who've
recently
separated.
We
will
screen
those
participants,
we're
a
teaching
institution
we're
not
a
research
institution.
So,
although
I
can
speak,
you
know
speak
to
certain
aspects
of
a
recent
qualitative
research
process.
I'm
not
an
expert
in
that.
M
M
A
report
will
be
prepared
and
delivered
to
us
so
that
we
can
disseminate
that
report.
Of
course,
redacted
of
all
any
pr
any
personal
information,
it
will
sanitize
the
report
in
that
respect
and
share
that
information
with
baptist
health,
and
then
we
will
sit
down
with
their
hr
people
and
administration
and
we'll
talk
about
strategies
what
can
be
done
to
reduce
attrition.
I
this
may
help
kind
of
focus
the
impact
of
this.
M
Less
stress,
stressful,
more
more
effective,
it's
all
about
patient
care
and
quality
care,
and
if
the
bedside
nurse,
if
the
patient
care
personnel
are
working
long
hours-
and
I
don't
need
to
get
preachy
about
it,
but
quality
care
can
suffer
and
they
have
any
number
of
ways
of
measuring
that
within
the
hospital.
Far
more
than
I
understand
to
be
quite
honest,
but
they
track
that
they
track
that
in
a
great
deal
of
detail
and
they're,
convinced
that
it
is
having
an
impact
upon
quality
care.
M
The
time
was
right
for
this,
and
we've
had
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
delta
usda
healthcare
services
grant
program
and
in
fact,
part
of
our
proposal
included
the
research
plan,
the
research
plan
for
the
project
and
and
demonstrated
our.
I
think
we
hope-
and
I
assume
it
did-
enabled
us
to
make
a
a
solid
proposal
that
delta
usda
had
confidence
would
work
so
from
the
beginning.
A
Well,
relatively
speaking,
and
certainly
not
a
whole
lot
of
money,
but
I
guess
my
concern
is
you
know
every
hospital
in
the
state
of
kentucky
and
pretty
much
the
united
states
is
having
the
same
issue
yeah
and
years
been
in
34.
For
this
I
spoke
to
university
of
louisville
medical
center
last
week
and
they
got
the
same
issues.
Are
they
going
to
be
doing
a
study?
Will
uk
be
doing
a
study?
Will
everybody
be
doing
a
study
and
looks
like
there
should
be?
M
You
but
partnership
grants
are,
can
be
difficult
to
develop.
There
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
and
so
no
we
did
not
consult
with
uk
or
uofl.
We
have
obviously
spoken
with
some
of
the
smaller
hospitals
in
our
in
our
surface
area
and
we
will
be
sharing
our
results
with
them
and
disseminating
them,
at
least
in
our
western
kentucky
region.
But
your
point
is
well
taken.
A
A
A
A
H
A
A
C
Well,
I
can't
speak
to
their
negotiation.
This
is
the
contractor
that
we
have
used
for
our
previous
athletic
searches.
They
have
an
area
of
expertise
in
this.
Our
pre,
this
current
athletic
director
was
found
with
the
search
firm
he's
been
fantastic
and
we're
sorry
that
he's
retiring
and
our
current,
our
current
basketball,
men's
basketball,
coach
and
our
previous
men's
basketball
coach.
So
we
have
a
track
record
with
this
company.
H
A
C
A
Well,
that's
a
shame
because
that's
my
other
question
again
you're
going
to
see.
Well,
you
won't
hang
around
we'll
let
you
go
back
to
northern
kentucky,
but
a
million
dollars
we're
going
to
spend
on
executive
recruitment
firms
and
again
I
just
want
to
see
its
money
spent
in
kentucky
if
at
all
possible
and
every.
N
G
C
B
D
A
A
N
N
F
A
N
And-
and
it
is
a
lot
of
money-
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
say:
232
000
isn't
a
lot
of
money,
but
a
mistake
and
a
higher
in
that
area
can
cost
us
a
whole
lot
more
than
232
000
dollars,
and
I
think
we
view
it
as
money
well
spent.
That's
frankly
how
we
got
the
president
at
the
university
of
kentucky
that
we
have
now
11
years
ago,
when
he,
when
dr
lee
todd
decided
to
retire,
our
board
of
trustees,
decided
they
were
going
to
use
a
specific
national
firm.
A
N
A
N
B
N
A
B
D
A
A
A
F
D
Sure
this
contract
was
one
of
others
that
we
set
up
for
search
firms.
We
try
to
have
a
pool
of
them
because
sometimes
they've
got
conflicts.
The
different
firms
for
the
particular
positions
at
any
given
time,
and
we
also
like
to
try
to
get
the
best
pricing
available
and
they're
all
in
competition
with
one
another.
D
D
Is
they
have
extensive
expertise
with
the
medical
area
and
the
research
area,
particularly
and
they're.
The
only
search
firm
that
we
currently
have
under
contract
with
that
type
of
expertise,
and
so
the
search
that
we
are
getting
ready
to
do
will
allow
us
for
that
search
and
then
two
other
at
the
dean
level
that
we
are
not
sure.
If
they're
going
to
use
this
firm
or
not
they've
not
yet
decided,
we
also
have
a
dean
for
our
arts
and
sciences
area
that
needs
to
be
filled.
F
F
If
we
don't
even
know
if
we've
decided
we're
using
this
firm
as
possible
to
do
it
and
I
feel
like
we're
just
throwing
money
at
something,
that's
very
open-ended,
and
I
don't
know
that.
That's
a
question.
It's
just
a
statement
that
I
have
on
this.
I
feel
like
it's
just
a
very
a
lot
of
money,
kind
of
open-ended
check
so
to
speak,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
comments
not
on
that
or
not,
but
that's
just
what
it
looks
like
to
me.
Thank
you.
D
Well,
we
have
found,
because
we've
had
these
contracts
with
isaacson
miller
over
they
had
a
contract
prior
to
this
biennium
as
well,
and
they
successfully
placed
several
people
both
in
the
academic
and
in
our
health
sciences
campus.
So
we've
been
able
to
work
very
quickly
through
these
committees
and
with
our
leadership,
particularly
that
we've
gotten
place
that
have
remained
consistent
at
the
university
they've
got
a
lot
of
technology.
D
This
particular
firm
as
well,
whereas
some
of
our
other
firms
are
not
as
tech
savvy
and
doing
the
skyping
and
the
interviews
remotely
et
cetera.
So
that's
you
know
really
why,
when
we
look
at
the
pool
that
we've
got,
they
do
all
seem
to
have
separate
niches
and
unfortunately,
we've
had
a
lot
of
the
high
level
dean
level
or
chair
level
positions
that
are
opened
up
and
we
did
do
an
rfp
for
these.
D
These
search
firms
and
we
had
23
respondents
and
we
ended
up
awarding
seven
contracts
and
to
answer
the
kentucky
vendor
question.
There
was
only
one
kentucky
vendor
that
responded
out
of
the
23
respondents
and
unfortunately,
they
scored
22
out
of
the
23
and
they
didn't
have
any.
They
only
had
had
in
the
course
of
the
last
six
years
for
higher
education
searches,
so
they
really
didn't
have
that
type
of
experience
and
when
we
look
at
the
seven
that
we
awarded,
they
all
have
different
academic
specialties.
D
So
it
just
so
happens
the
specialties
in
the
dean's
positions
that
we've
had
have
fit
with
isaacson
miller
and
actually
one
of
our
other
firms,
their
dean,
searches
actually
start
at
100,
000
and
isaacson's
miller
starts
at
85
000,
and
then
you
have
to
tap
on
their
11
administrative
fee
and
then
their
travel.
So
we
don't
look
at
the
highest
of
our
pool.
We
go
through
all
seven
and
try
to
identify
who
would
best
be
able
for
this
search
and
what
the
rates
that
they
have
for
these
positions.
A
A
lot
of
my
questions
were
same
as
co-chair
cook
and
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
But
it's
part
of
our
conversation
is
it
fair
to
say
that
you
acknowledge
that
this
whole
process
has
been
a
little
bit
decentralized
in
the
past
and
you're
trying
to
now
bring
it
more
into
the
administrative
house?
Is
that
fair
to
say.
D
D
We
we
come
up
with
what
the
pricing
percentages
are
and
do
not
share
that
with
the
committee
members,
so
they
are
evaluating
simply
the
experience
and
the
qualifications
so
that
they
are
not
gearing
their
scores
to
hear
it
towards
a
particular
award
to
a
particular
vendor.
We
found
that
very
useful
and
it's
it
takes
more
time.
It
takes
a
lot
more
hands-on.
But
again
with
the
new
leadership,
we
have.
A
D
A
A
I
D
A
H
A
J
You,
mr
chairman,
it
looks
like
to
me
what
this
contract
generally
does
is.
Has
somebody
or
I
think
it's
one
and
a
half
people
for
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
looking
at
issues
and
trying
to
come
up
with
ideas
or
a
creative
brainstorming
type
of
a
job?
Is
that
a
fair
assessment
of
the
style
of
work
we're
doing
here.
H
Yes,
senator,
I
guess
that
would
be
a
broad
description
of
what
is
being
planned
with
the
with
the
funds.
It
is
intended
to
collect
some
information
that
supports
that
is
supported
by
data
across
the
state
around
the
ability
of
the
rape
crisis
centers
to
provide
accessible
services
to
all
citizens
in
the
in
the
commonwealth
and
to
do
that
they
want
to
have
a
person,
have
a
board
that
is
comprised
of
persons
with
lived
experience,
advising
them
on
steps
that
they
could
take
to
make
things
more
accessible
to
all
citizens.
J
H
J
J
H
H
H
So
the
this
work
is
attempting
to
broaden
their
approach
to
make
these
services
available
to
all
types
of
individuals
who
have
been
marginalized
because
of
maybe
race,
maybe
because
they
are
men.
For
example,
they
don't
serve
a
lot
of
men
as
well.
So
what
can
they
do
to
make?
Those
services
even
more
accessible
to
all
all
citizens,
so
the
attempt
there
was
to
collect
data
around
all
the
populations
that
are
served
in
the
least
amounts
and
hoping
to
open
those
doors,
a
little
more
broadly
for
for
all
citizens.
J
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
final
piece
here
on
page
three,
it
mentions
that
we're
doing
we're
implementing
an
approach
within
a
racial
equity
framework
and
it
talks
about
new
equity,
enhanced
policies
on
page
five
by
equity.
What
exactly
do
you
mean
by
that?
Because
earlier
we're
talking
about
racial
disparities
and
service
access,
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
is
that
what
you
mean
you're
just
using
different
words?
Or
is
this
something
totally
else
that
we
haven't
talked
about
yet.
H
No
ma'am,
it
is
all
in
the
same
category.
It's
just
different
ways
of
communicating
that
there
is
a
lot
of
data
showing
that
there's
a
very
small
population
of
kentuckians
who
are
being
served
by
the
rape
crisis
centers
when
we
know,
indeed
that
there
is
a
very
large
population
of
folks
who
have
been
traumatized
by
sexual
assault
and
who
go
on
to
have
issues
with
substance,
use
disorder
or
mental
illness.
A
C
H
H
They
just
don't
serve
as
many
of
them
and
we're
they're
trying
to
discover
the
reasons
why
they
aren't
reaching
them
as
effectively
as
they
are
one
population
over
the
other.
We're
just
trying
to
they're
just
trying
to
figure
out
again
how
to
make
those
services
more
easily
accessible
to
everyone
and
trying
to
ask
the
right
questions.
So
they
can
change
policies
and
procedures
if
they
are
a
barrier
in
any
way.
A
G
A
I
Well,
that's
a
very
good
question.
Senator
and
I
you
know,
if
I
can
this
and
the
following
two
contracts
are
part
of
a
bundle
that
you
said
three
four
and
five
so
senate
bill
three
from
special
session
last
year,
appropriated
69.2
million
dollars
from
our
pro
funds
to
support
a
variety
activities,
including
testing
and
therapeutics
and
other
needs,
as
does
arose
related
to
cobit
19.
I
We
haven't
had
really
dedicated
funding
from
the
cdc
specifically
to
help
support
the
post-secondary
education
community,
which
I
think
we
all
understand,
is
important
for
the
commonwealth,
and
so
this
was
an
opportunity
to
use
some
of
those
funds
to
support
them.
The
initiatives
are
inclusive
of
vaccination,
perhaps
getting
ppe
promoting
and
making
available
testing
and
other
best
practices
as
the
universities
determine
so
this
particular
contract,
the
500
000
one
would
fund
the
private
and
independent
colleges
and
universities.
I
There's
a
second
contract
in
here
which
provides
a
larger
sum
of
money
to
kctcs,
which
would
be
for
them
to
do
these
sorts
of
activities,
plus
they
are
working
with
an
outside
vendor
to
communicate
with
and
try
to
educate
and
encourage
college
students
to
voluntarily
uptake
vaccination,
and
that
will
be
made
available
to
all
the
public
universities.
It's
just
that
kcts
took
point.
I
A
I
Part
we
partnered
with
the
council
on
post-secondary
education,
because
this
is
really
their
audience
and
they
know
them
best,
and
so
they
have
provided
to
the
colleges
and
universities
descriptions
of
allowable
expenses
and
have
created
a
system
where
they'll
get
reports
back
from
the
colleges
and
universities
to
be
accountable.
For
these
I
think
it'll
that
this
really
just
began
in
january,
so
I
would
think
later
right
near
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
Probably
cpe
will
have
you
know
some
summary
or
a
report.
We
could
probably
come
back
to
you
with
that.
A
Possibly
maybe
maybe
discussion
for
interim
health
and
welfare
just
to
see
where
we
are
with
that,
but
I
appreciate
that
and
also
appreciate
the
information
on
what's
listed
as
number
five
you've
heard,
I
don't
like
descriptions
of
multi
and
you
have
been
kind
enough
to
provide
us
the
detail
for
each
university.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
that
and
as
well
the
information
this
afternoon
senate
southwest
you
have
a
question.
J
J
I
Well,
the
the
coed
pandemic
has
been
unprecedented
in
a
number
of
ways.
I
think
we've
we've
all
talked
about
that
in
previous
experiences,
but
the
distinction
that
happened
in
covid
was
that
the
fda
used
the
emergency
use
authorization
route
in
order
to
expedite
the
review
of
scientific
data
and
then
issue
authorizations
in
order
for
pharmaceuticals
or
tests
also
to
be
used.
I
That's
different
than
the
typical
approval
process,
which
unfolds
in
a
much
more
prolonged
and
drawn
out
manner
and
which
would
not
have
enabled
these
resources
to
be
available.
So
they
focused
their
time
and
attention
to
expedite
the
timeline,
and
in
so
doing
they
used
the
emergency
use
authorization
approach.
J
I
Of
that
issue
there
are
there
well,
there
are
actually
two,
so
the
pfizer
product
is
fully
authorized
for
18
and
older,
and
I
don't
know
if
they've
dropped
it
younger,
but
at
least
for
18
and
older.
It's
fully
approved
and
the
trade
name
for
that
now
is
community
and
then
just
recently
within
the
last
week,
or
so,
the
moderna
product
has
been
fully
approved
under
the
name
spike
vaxx,
which
is
sounds
like
they
picked
a
transformers
name
for
it.
I
J
I
That
should
not
be
happening.
There
should
be
not
be
expired
product
in
the
field
that's
being
used,
and
if
you
have
that
senator
we
would
be
grateful
if
you
could
share
that
with
us,
and
we
will
look
into
it
immediately
that
should
not
be
occurring.
There
should
be
safeguards
in
place
to
ensure,
in
fact
it
does
not
happen.
J
Well,
I
was
hoping
that
we
would
be
over
this
hump
by
now,
but
apparently
we're
not
because
every
time
I
check
back
in
it's
more
of
the
same
and
if
we
have
that
kind
of
stuff-
and
that
is
the
only
thing
that
we're
getting
available
in
our
offices-
pharmacies
wherever
all
this
is
shipping
and
we've
been
checking
regionally
and
nationally
to
locate
non-expired
approved
vaccines.
We
have
not
been
able
to
get
all
of
the
above
in
kentucky
to
my
knowledge
so
far
and
I've
been
working
on
this,
it
raises
a
lot
of
concern.
J
Now
we're
going
to
spend
taxpayer
dollars
trying
to
funnel
what
may
not
be
practical
information,
any
one
can
use
because
you
can
say
hey
this
vaccine's
been
approved,
but
if
you
go
to
the
office
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
it,
and
that
is
my
main
concern
number
one.
My
another
concern
is
these
kids
essential,
calm,
kids,
my
little
brothers
on
the
very
edge
of
this
age
range,
maybe
25
years
old
or
whatever
he's
not
he's
he's
worried
to
death,
because
how
many
of
his
friends
and
people
he
knows
have
had
heart
problems.
I
Senator
the
first
part
about
the
inventory
there,
there
is
absolute
expectation
that
there
is
current
unexpired
inventory
in
the
field
and
safeguards
for
that
purpose.
So
I
would
want
to
reassure
the
public
that
that
is
the
case
and
again,
if
there
are
any
instances
where
it
is
not
the
case,
we
will
intervene
promptly
if
someone
provides
that
information,
because
that
should
not
ever
occur.
I
The
the
second
with
respect
to
disclosure,
I'm
a
20
plus
year
emergency
physician,
informed
consent
is
essential
to
the
practice
of
medicine,
and
it
is
my
expectation
that
people
do
provide
the
appropriate
education
to
individuals.
So
they
can
be
informed
of
risks
and
benefits
and
make
a
choice
and
in
an
adolescent
and
young
adult
population.
That
does
include
the
discussion
about
the
potential
which
is
still
very
small
but
does
occur
for
myocarditis
in
some
of
those
individuals.
And
so
yes,
the
the
educational
efforts
fully
disclose
and
provide
information
that
there
are
risks
and
benefits.
J
I
No,
I
don't
think
you
are.
I
think
that
this
is
a
short
distillation
of
a
more
a
larger
program
and
and
clearly
the
hope
and
the
aspiration
is,
is
to
instill
confidence,
but
but
this
is
just
a
few
line
summary
of
a
much
more
complex
program,
so
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
if
it
is
incomplete,
it's
incomplete
just
for
the
sake
of
brevity
for
this
type
of
format.
At
a
committee
here.
J
For
the
sake
of
brevity,
it
seems
like
our
little
two-minute
visits,
aren't
necessarily
providing
enough
information
for
people
to
really
make
a
good
consent,
in
potentially
violation
of
the
federal
law.
That's
my
main
concern,
mr
chairman.
I
would
move
for
disapproval
of
number
three,
four
and
five
because
of
those
major
issues.
C
E
Mr
chair,
I
do
appreciate
the
job
of
this
committee
and
so
sometimes
I
know
we
get
a
little
sidetracked
on
some
issues
and
sometimes
become
informative.
I
would
just
be
amiss
if
I
didn't
state
that
I
think
this
has
been
probably
in
my
lifetime.
One
of
the
most
discussed
issues-
and
I
appreciate
mr
stocks
being
here
today
and
his
explanation.
Thank
you.
Vote
no.
K
C
I
vote
no
on
the
motion
to
disapprove
and
as
someone
who
works
at
western
kentucky
university,
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
this
funding
for
not
only
education
about
vaccines,
but
for
the
program
that
you
know
that
we
have
to
have
isolation
for
students
who
live
outside
of
a
three-hour
radius
and
you
know,
are-
are
not
going
to
be
and
are
not
sent
home
for
covid.
So
again,
I
think
this
is
a
great
program
and
we
have
tightly
patched
people
in
residence
halls.
D
A
N
A
A
We
have
three:
I
votes
for
no
votes,
not
enough
to
prove
the
contracts,
so
they
will
automatically
go
to
the
finance
cabinet
for
final
disposition
on
this,
but
dr
stack,
I
always
appreciate
you
joining
us
and
engaging
us
in
this
conversation.
If
you
know
my
couple,
questions
not
really
related
to
the
contracts,
but
do
we
have
any
supply
issues
with
the
vaccine.
A
I
We'll
be
happy
to
assist
her,
I
mean
we
every
time,
we've
drilled
down
into
these
things.
If
someone
has
signed
up
and
once
vaccine
we've
been
able
to
remove
the
roadblock
and
it's
just
that,
there's
there's
a
burdensome
reporting
requirement
that
goes
with
the
program
and
so
it's
difficult
for
for
some
sites
to
comply,
but
we
are
happy
to
help
them.
Try
to
overcome
all
those
hurdles.
Well,.
A
I
I
We
may
get
to
a
point
like
that,
but
as
that
particular
resolution
is
worded,
there
is
no
fda,
approved,
neutralizing
antibody
test
for
clinical
use
and
there
is
no
defined
range
or
20th
percentile
criterion
defined
in
the
united
states
by
which
that
could
be
applied.
But
I
think
we
would
hope
that
we
can
head
that
route
and
we
do
it
for
other
diseases
like
hepatitis,
where
you
can
go,
get
a
tighter
level
and
determine
that
the
science
for
covid
is
not
quite
yet
there.
I
A
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
appreciate
you
indulging
me
as
well.
I
know
this
that
contra.
That
question
was
not
specific
to
these
contracts
and
I'm
sorry
if
I'd
deviated
from
the
subject
matter,
but
I
thought
it
was
convenient.
While
we
had
you
here
to
get
your
opinion
on
that,
and
I
appreciate
it
it's
it's
very
valuable
to
me.
I
A
A
A
30,
yes,
30
and
31..
Thank
you
thank
you
for
keeping
me
on
track
here.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
this
is
final
island.
Our
pool
list
are
with
department
of
health
and
they
are
30
and
31,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
my
attention
and
also
14
on
the
moa
10
list.
So
center
southworth
again
has
questions
regarding
these.
J
I
J
Now
of
all
the
funds
over
the
past
many
months
that
I
have
just
gone
off
about
wasting
on
testing
and
other
things
this.
Finally,
two
years
later
has
shown
up
as
the
best
idea
for
spending
coveted
mitigation
funds
that
I've
seen
to
date
and
I'm
thinking
to
myself:
okay,
five
million
dollars
for
14
prison
facilities.
J
Where
have
I
mean?
Have
we
not
been
thinking
about
this
before
we
should
be
having
this
on
the
arp
list
for
every
state
building
in
the
entire
state?
I
mean.
Is
this
something
that's
just
now,
starting
just
in
prisons?
Are
we
going
to
get
this
moving
other
places
because
I
sure
would
rather
be
actually
killing
bugs
instead
of
testing
for
them.
I
I
You
know
support
that
effort,
but
it's
a
partial
piece
of
a
bigger
project,
and
so
again
we
have
a
dedicated
federal
grant
specifically
for
the
correctional
setting
that
allows
this
sort
of
activity,
but
we
don't
have
other
dedicated
funding,
but
senator
we
would
love
if
the
general
assembly
wants
to
give
us
a
few
hundred
million
dollars
and
we'll
go
around
and
see
what
we
can
do
with
it
to
help
ventilation
and
other
buildings.
But
I'm
not
sure
the
general
fund
has
that
extra
resource.
J
Can
I
put
a
pause
on
this
question
or
that
statement
a
little
bit
to
ask
another
follow-up,
and
that
is
don't
we
have
like
cares
money,
arpa
funds.
All
these
things
that
are
supposed
to
be
allocated
to
covet
mitigation
are
those
I
mean
we're
doing
testing
that's
supposedly
coven
mitigation.
Are
those
funds
not
eligible
to
be
used
for
hvac
uv
filters.
I
I
guess
you
could
potentially,
but
since
the
legislature
was
very
specific,
saying,
tested
for
covet
19
assisting
monoclonal,
antibody
treatment,
centers
and
providing
for
tests
to
stay.
The
legislature
said
that
we
should
prioritize
on
those
issues.
So
we
followed
the
legislative
intent
as
it
was
described
in
the
piece
of
legislation
and.
I
J
I
J
A
A
D
B
A
Aye
motion
carries
doctor
last
thing
we
have,
for
you
is
number
14
on
our
memorandum
agreement,
amendment
list
and
that's
with
the
university
of
kentucky
for
covid
testing
and
we're
asking
for
an
increase
of
10
million
dollars,
and
the
description
we
have
is
for
kova
testing
reimbursement
for
cova
testing
for
non-insured
and
non-medicaid
eligible
patients.
I'm
just
surprised,
that's
that
large,
given
that
we've
got
a
third
of
our
population
on
medicaid
right
now
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
money.
It's
not
a
criticism.
I
Well,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
see
if
I
can
demonstrate
that.
I
listen
to
the
rest
of
the
testimony
that
preceded
me,
so
I'm
gonna
in
the
interest
of
all
candor
I'll
express
a
little
frustration.
Some
of
the
way
these
these
languages
come
to
you
that's
a
that's,
probably
a
partial
description.
So
what
this
actually
supports
is
community
testing
in
a
variety
of
different
settings
in
the
community
and
the
general
public
has
access
to
this.
So
it
definitely
includes
uninsured
and
non-medicaid
eligible
people,
but
it
also
includes
others
who
come
in.
I
We
don't
ask
specifically
or
turn
people
away
if
they
say
they
have
insurance.
So
this
testing
contract
has
supported
community
testing
for
a
long
time
in
lexington
for
for
central
kentuckians
and
and
first
it
was
a
kroger
field
and
the
general
public
could
come
there
and
I
think
you've,
probably
all
seen
news
coverings
or
newspaper
pictures
where
the
lines
are
real
long.
I
It
now
supports
a
college
way
which
is
a
different
location
on
the
uk
campus,
but
it
also
supports
remember
when
saint
clair
was
struggling
and
with
all
of
the
patients
that
were
overrunning
in
the
delta
surge.
This
is
this:
is
the
vehicle
that
this
uk
testing
route
allowed
us
to
project
testing
out
to
support
saint
claire
to
support
mount
sterling
to
support
berea
college
center
college
georgetown
college
bellarmine
university
pikeville
medical
center.
So
this
was
through
the
uk
partnership.
I
We
were
able
to
project
testing,
to
support
communities
throughout
the
commonwealth
and
and
help
people
not
go
to
the
emergency
department
to
get
tests,
but
instead
go
somewhere
just
to
get
a
test
that
also
spared
those
individuals
having
to
pay
for
an
er
visit
in
order
just
to
get
a
cova
test.
So
you
would
be.
I
would
agree
with
you
entirely.
I
It's
a
large
sum
if
it
was
only
what
you
saw
on
that
description,
they're,
the
uninsured
and
non-medicaid
eligible,
but
in
fact
it
was
general
community
testing
and
has
supported
a
lot
of
communities
throughout
the
commonwealth.
Let
me
let
me
just
add
mr
chair.
This
is
the
last
addition.
I
anticipate
to
this
particular
contract
that
the
finance
cabinet
has
done
a
new
procurement
and
is
in
the
process
of
finalizing
by
new
vendors
and
so
or
or
has
finalized.
A
I
appreciate
you
sharing
that
with
us
and
as
well
as
sharing
our
frustration
on
these
capsule
descriptions.
We
get
for
these
contracts
and
many
times
when
they're
pulled
it's
not
because
we
disagree
with
them.
We
just
don't
understand
them,
so
this
is
a
great
educational
opportunity
for
people
on
this
committee
to
understand
how
state
government
works-
and
I
appreciate
your
detailed
explanation
about
this
one.
I
certainly
understand
it
much
better
and
certainly
would
support
the
contract.
To
that.
Is
there
a
motion.
A
A
You
can,
or
I
I
can
give
a
partial
response
to
it
as
well
again
appreciate
you
being
here,
but
I'm
not
sure.
That's
not
a
question.
That's
that's
better
appropriate
for
secretary
freelander,
since
you
know
it's
it's
just
beyond
the
public
health
issue
here
and
but
again,
dr
stack,
if
you
have
something
to
add
to
this,
please
feel
free.
I
Senator
I
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
thank
the
senator
southward
for
the
opportunity
to
come
and
to
make
the
point.
So
I
agree
on
the
need
to
invest
for
the
future,
so
we
are
aligned
on
that
center
southward
and,
in
fact,
there's
a
fantastic
opportunity
related
directly
to
public
health.
To
do
that.
Our
our
commonwealth
of
kentucky
public
health
laboratory,
which
provides
all
newborn
screening
services,
testing
for
53
000,
live
bursts
a
year
white
powder
analysis.
I
The
only
place
in
the
state
that
does
that
for
anthrax
and
other
bio
safety
threats,
rabies
and
a
number
of
other
services
is
over
30
years
old
and
in
the
governor's
proposed
budget
for
the
capital
spending
plan.
We
did
a
feasibility
study
last
year.
Had
a
vendor
come
in,
the
building
is
over
33
years
old,
cannot
maintain
proper
temperature
and
humidity,
and
the
modern
medical
equipment
in
that
building,
overheats
the
rooms
and
means
that
the
rooms
have
to
shut
down
and
can't
provide
those
essential
services
for
which
there
is
no
in-state
alternative,
so
senator
southworth.
I
I
would.
I
would
love
to
see
the
senate
include
that
in
its
version
of
the
budget,
it's
135
million
capital
spending
plan
with
bond
funded
over
30
years.
It
won't
be
built
for
five
years.
It
takes
that
long
and
I
think
you
would
all
do
the
service
a
great
service
for
the
commonwealth
and
its
people
for
those
important
and
critical
services
and
you'll
even
have
the
benefit.
It'll
be
some
future.
Commissioner,
more
than
five
years
from
now
that
cuts
the
ribbon.
I
It
won't
be
me
and
I'll
be
glad
to
celebrate
their
accomplishment
the
day
they
cut
the
ribbon,
but
the
the
state
direly
needs
to
make
that
investment
for
the
long
term
to
help
support
all
the
other
important
things
that
we
do
that
have
nothing
to
do
with
covet,
so
senator
meredith.
I
want
to
thank
senator
southworth
for
the
chance
to
share
that
input
with
the
committee.
A
L
A
J
B
A
A
A
A
Aye
motion
carries,
I
believe,
that's
our
last
sort
of
business
other
than
to
remind
you
that
we're
at
least
scheduled
now
for
march,
8th
upon
a
german
of
both
chambers,
of
course,
that
time
of
year
it's
going
to
get
a
little
bit
crazy.
So
it's
subject
to
change
so
check
your
emails,
but
appreciate
everyone
attending
this
evening
and
actively
participating-
and
I
know
we've
been
here
a
long
time,
but
I
appreciate
your
input
and
participation
with
that.
We
stand
adjourned.