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C
B
A
First
matter
of
business
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
last
meeting.
Are
there
any
additions
or
corrections
to
the
minutes?
Seeing
seeing
none?
Is
there
a
motion
for
proof?
We
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
without
objection
is
so
ordered
if
you
are
joining
us
via
video
conference.
Please
meet
your
phones,
please
call
the
first
regulation.
B
D
These
regulations
establish
definitions,
filing
methods
and
forms
procedures
for
the
acceptance
and
refusal
of
records,
the
ucc
information
management
system,
filing
indexing
and
data
entry
procedures
and
pers
in
public
access
to
ucc
records.
They
all
have
staff
suggested
amendments
which
amend
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
krs
chapter
13a.
A
Good
afternoon,
senator
I'm
michael
wilson,
I'm
the
director
of
business
services
for
kentucky
secretary
of
state,
michael
adams.
Thank
you.
There
are
staff
amendments.
Do
we
have
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
staff
amendments
we
have?
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
Without
objection
is
so
ordered,
so
we
have
in
front
of
us
this
set
of
regs
with
approved
staff
amendments,
any
questions
for
the
secretary
of
state's
office
on
the
this
set
of
regs.
E
C
A
B
F
G
F
201
care
2471
repeals
201
kr
2470,
because
its
provisions
are
covered
elsewhere.
201
kr
2472
establishes
requirements
for
a
dialysis
technician,
program
application
and
increases
the
application
fee
from
950
dollars
to
2.
000
provides
approval
for
a
technician
that
completed
an
out-of-state
program,
provides
program,
structure,
guidelines,
states,
minimum
qualifications
for
an
administrator
and
assistant
provides
educational
and
credential
requirements
for
faculty,
creates
a
system
of
official
records
and
reports
defines
the
didactic
faculty
heightens
requirements
for
students,
training
programs
and
internships
allows
for
distance
learning
requires
publication
of
pre-admission
requirements
sets
program.
F
F
201K
2474
establishes
dialysis
training
program
site
visit
standards
provides
evaluation,
standards,
creates
data
collection,
responsibilities
adds
additional
voluntary
program.
Closure
guidelines
increases
the
continued
approval
fee
from
eight
hundred
to
a
thousand
dollars
and
adds
rules
for
submission
dates
for
continued
approval,
increases
program,
reinstatement
fee
from
950
to
a
thousand
dollars,
clarifies
site,
visit
circumstances
and
follow-up
actions
and
provides
withdrawal
of
approval
criteria.
F
201
kr
2476
establishes
new
requirements
for
the
initial
dialysis
technician.
Credential
requires
an
applicant
to
practice
under
supervision
of
a
registered
nurse
requires
an
applicant
to
complete
an
approved
certification
for
for
provisional
credentials
decreases.
The
renewal
fee
from
70
to
35
dollars
establishes
online
and
paper
renewal
rules,
creates
instructions
for
out-of-state
renewals
and
incorporates
forms
201kr2478
establishes
scope
of
practice.
For
dialysis
technicians
adds
licensees
able
to
provide
supervision.
F
A
There
is
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
is
so
ordered.
Do
we
have
questions
from
members?
Senator
alvarado
was
first
then
co-chair
hale.
After
that.
C
H
Just
due
to
the
monitoring,
we're
tracking,
our
dt
programs
does
take
some
time
and
resources
and
having
to
do
this,
we've
added
we
added
the
dts
recently
in
the
last
few
years,
and
we
learned
that
we
need
a
little
bit
more
funding
to
make
sure
that
we
can
monitor
them
effectively.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
actually
senator
alvarado
asked
me.
I
asked
the
question
that
I
was
going
to
ask
as
well
being
on
this
committee
for
several
years.
These
significant
increases
has
always
thrown
up
a
little
bit
of
a
red
flag
to
me
and
as
the
question
was,
this
is
over
a
double
doubling
of
the
fee
plus,
but
I
accept
the
answer
and
thank
you
very
much,
sir.
H
A
rough
estimate
I
can
get.
I
can
get
that
answer
back
to
the
the
committee.
If
I
need
to
if
the
committee
would
like,
I
don't
know
the
the
rough
number
of
time
ahead.
I
know
that
we
have
90
000
over
90
000
nurses
and
they
make
up
a
part
of
that,
but
I
would
to
give
you
a
better
number.
I
would
have
to
that's.
That's.
H
Well,
with
the
with
these
programs,
we
of
course
have
to
do
site
visits
where
staff
goes
to
make
sure
that
these
programs,
when
we
have
these
programs
that
are
they're
operating
effectively
and
safely
when
they're
training,
our
new
dts.
C
Alvarado,
thank
you
just
a
follow-up
on
that.
Then.
If
it's
a
you
know,
I
think
the
in
472
it
went
from
950
to
2
000
on
the
fee
increase.
How
much
money
do
you
think
that's
going
to
generate
in
that?
I'm
sure
that
wasn't
just
a
a
random
number
there's
an
estimate
is
how
much
you
think
that's
going
to
raise
in
terms
of
helping
with
monitoring
and
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
applying.
Is
there
an
estimate
of
how
much
money
you
think
that
was
going
to
generate
in
fees
for
the
board?
C
H
That
would
been
board
staff,
but
I
I
can
find
out
from
board
staff.
I
can
tell
the
the
committee
that
we've
had
we
started
these
amendments
back
november
of
2020.
We've
had
multiple
conversations
with
our
stakeholders
in
the
various.
H
Organizations
that
are
training
our
diocese
dialysis
technicians
and
they
did
not
raise
an
issue
regarding
the
fees
we
did
have
multiple
conversations
about
the
the
faculty
qualifications,
but
the
issue
of
this,
the
fee
increase
was
not
was
not
raised
to
board
staff.
C
A
Thank
thank
you
senator
alright.
I
would
agree.
We
have
excellent
staff
here
and
I've
been
handed
a
note.
A
In
april
of
2021,
there
were
712
dialysis
technicians
in
the
state
active
in
in
kentucky
and
so
yeah.
I
agree
with
senator
alvarado.
A
If,
if
we're
advocating
for
a
fee
increase
in
the
reg,
then
the
cabinet
or
the
boar,
I'm
sorry.
The
board,
I
would
think,
should
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
the
number
is
and
and
the
reason
for
it.
So
that's
troubling
that
we
don't
have
a
number
on
that
today
to
know
to
prove
why
it's
needed.
I
guess,
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say.
Yes,.
A
Any
other
questions
from
members,
but
this
this
2000,
that's
the
initial
application
fee.
That's
like
a
one-time
fee
correct.
Yes,
that's
my
understanding.
Okay,
all
right!
K
L
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
just
a
question:
why
were
these
specific
lakes
pulled
off
of
the
bow
fishing
and
and
what
type
of
fish
are
that
that
they
were
both
fishing?
For
I
know
down
the
western
part
of
the
state.
We've
got
a
severe
problem
with
invasion,
carp
and
we're.
You
know
we're
doing
anything
to
limit
those,
but
just
just
a
little
clarifications
off.
Thank
you.
L
That's
a
totally
reasonable
question
and
would
expect
that,
essentially,
these
are
small
lakes
that
have
residences
immediately
around
them
and
most
of
the
folks
who
are
coming
to
bow
fish
are
both
fishing
at
night
and
they're,
using
relatively
loud
motors
and
lights,
and
so
we
we've
received
multiple
complaints
regarding
the
use
of
of
those
boats
and
equipment
by
the
neighbors,
and
so
we're
trying
to
be
good
neighbors
on
these
particular
lakes.
L
There's
also
in
some
of
these
lakes,
we
have
stocked
trip,
triploid
or
sterile
grass,
carp
for
controlling
vegetation
to
improve
angler
access,
and
so
there's
not
as
much
vegetation
for
people
to
get
hung
up
in
and
then
compete
with
right
around
the
perimeter
of
the
lakes
and
so
bowfishers,
sometimes
knowingly,
sometimes
unknowingly,
may
shoot
those
grass
carp,
which
have
been
stocked
there
by
the
department
to
control
that
vegetation.
L
So
this
this
would
allow
those
carp
to
persist
again,
in
this
case
they're,
triploid
or
sterile,
and
we
buy
them
from
vendors
that
certify
that
and
so
they're
not
reproducing
in
the
lake
we
stock
them
they
grow.
They
continue
to
eat
that
invasive
or
undesirable
vegetation
to
make
the
fishing
as
optimal
as
possible.
So
it's
a
combination
of
being
responsive
to
our
neighbors,
who
have
had
issues
with
both
fishing
on
these
small
lakes
and
then
also
trying
to
provide
the
best
fishing
opportunities
that
we
can.
A
E
502
k
ar1502
amends
to
add
a
provision
requiring
the
department
to
locate
order,
removal
of
and
send
notification
to,
the
owner
of
vehicles
that
are
abandoned
on
the
rights
of
way
of
state
highways,
county
roads
or
city
streets
and
to
make
minor
updates.
The
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
and
formatting
requirements
of
krs
chapter
13a.
J
J
J
502-45045
is
being
amended
to
reflect
the
designation
from
a
written
examination
to
an
aptitude
examination
and
include
clarifications
to
the
procedures
used.
502,
45,
075
and
085
are
being
amended
to
make
clarifications
and
technical
changes.
502
45
105
is
being
amended
to
add
statutory
authority
regarding
how
a
cadet
trooper
may
be
dismissed
during
the
probationary
period,
with
or
without
cause.
J
502-45-150
is
being
amended
to
reflect
a
change
to
the
test
administered
and
replaced
the
content-based
task
test
with
the
physical
fitness
test.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
to
these
regulations
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
krs
chapter
13a
and
make
technical
changes.
A
I
M
The
the
sticker
that
is
affixed
is
an
internal
ksp
document
that
is
only
for
our
tracking
purposes.
Only
it's-
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
one
right
here
with
me.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
could
see
it
from
my
my
phone
or
not,
but
you'll
see
it's
a
bright
orange
thing,
it's
very
hard
to
remove
from
the
vehicle,
and
that's
an
identifying
mark
that
we
use
internally
for
our
troopers.
M
Once
we
identify
a
vehicle,
that's
been
there
and
it
has
the
officer's
initials
and
the
date
and
time
stamp
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we
give
it
the
appropriate
amount
of
time
before
removing.
Of
course,
we
would
have
to
remove
it
immediately
if
it's
an
imp,
if
it's
a
traffic
hazard.
I
If
I
may
follow
up
mr
chair,
thank
you
major
so
once
that
sticker
is
placed
there
on
that
vehicle,
how
much
time
is
allotted
until
that
vehicle
is
actually
removed?.
I
Okay
and
then,
if
I
may
follow
up,
then
one
more
please
when
that
removal
takes
place
and-
and
I've
actually
had
concerns
from
actually
constituent
a
couple
of
constituents
on
this
issue
which
operate
towing
services
and
and
in
in
a
situation
where
they
would
be
contacted
and-
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how
that
process
works-
of
how
the
how
it
goes
around,
who
comes
and
removes
those.
M
Sure
what
we
typically
do
is
we
have
what's
called
a
rotating
rec
log
at
each
post,
if
you're
a
member
of
one
of
the
record
agencies
or
services
in
the
community
and
want
to
be
part
of
that,
the
state
police
receives
absolutely
no
funds
from
you
being
on
that
you
just
have
to
comply
with
certain
rules
and
regulations,
as
in
policies
which
is
like
producing
a
document
that
shows
exactly
what
your
fees
will
be.
M
So
somebody
can't
strong-arm
somebody
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
raise
fees
or
charge
additional
fees
as
long
as
they're
in
line
they
can
be
a
part
of
that
rotating
record
log
when
a
trooper
arrives
on
scene
to
a
vehicle
and
they
need
a
tow.
They
notify
posts
for
next
on
the
list.
Nol.
That's
a
rotating
log,
so
that
it's
fair
to
everybody
and
you're,
not
just
calling
up
your
buddy
or
there's
the
appearance
of
impropriety.
M
That
way
by
doing
next
on
the
list
that
law
rotates
around
once
the
wrecker
comes
out,
the
trooper
will
fill
out
what's
called
a
ksp
41
on
that
vehicle.
Put
the
owner's
information
based
upon
the
registration
that
is
ran
from
dispatch
at
that
time,
and
they
will
give
a
copy
of
that
to
the
wrecker
service.
The
original
copy
goes
back
to
post
and
the
clerks
actually
mail
that
out
to
the
registered
owner
to
to
provide
the
required
notice,
as
required
by
statute
to
the
registered
owner
of
the
vehicle.
I
Okay,
I
I
understand
that,
and-
and
and
I
like
I
thank
you
for
the
explanation-
it's
still,
I
think,
there's
still
maybe,
and-
and
this
is
probably
not
something
we
can
work
out
here-
but
there
still
seems
to
be
a
problem
many
times
of
those
individuals
not
being
able
to
find
who
that
vehicle
belongs
to
or
who
even
is
the
owner
of
that
or
maybe
they've
abandoned
it.
Maybe
they've
moved
maybe
they've
left.
M
I
believe
so
I
believe
the
kar
provides
a
remedy
for
that,
sir.
I
believe
that
it
it's
it's
after
60
days
that
it
can
be
once
it's
noticed
a
second
time
that
it
can
be
sold
under
a
a
lien,
a
work
order
lane,
I'm
not
sure
the
exact
terminology,
sir.
I
don't
have
the
the
krs
in
front
of
me,
but
it
references
that
and
they
should
be
able
to
recover
the
additional
proceeds
to
cover
the
storage
and
towing
cost
from
that
sale.
B
For
clarity,
there
were
three
that
did
not
have
staff
suggested
amendments
and
that
was
502,
3504-0,
45015
and
150..
Next,
we
have
under
transportation
cabinet
department
of
highways,
603
kar,
5
150,
without
staff
suggested
amendment.
A
Thank
you.
There
are
no
staff
amendments
or
committee
amendments
here,
so
we
have
before
us.
The
reg
itself
just
looks
like
one
regarding
encroachment
permits.
Could
you
explain
what
what
we're
doing
here.
H
A
Okay,
so
is
this:
are
there
a
lot
of
changes,
wholesale
changes
in
the
manual
or,
what's,
if
you'll,
let.
H
G
A
That's
fine
just
for
explanation,
so
I
know
what
I'm
what's
before
us
is
this
a
manual
as
it
pertains
to
citizens
permitting
the
cabinet
to
encroach?
Is
that
what
we're
talking
about.
G
A
So
I
guess
I
guess
my
main
question
is:
is
it
a
lot
more
restrictive
on
normal
citizen.
G
A
B
J
N
N
But
we
learned
on
november
the
4th
from
lrc
that
we
failed
to
provide
a
certification
letter
for
those
two
regs.
So
these
two
regs
simply
correct
the
error
that
was
made
by
the
failure
to
submit
that
certification
letter
and
it
simply
adopts
the
federal
requirements
and
ensures
we
keep
our
coverage.
A
E
806
kar
17
575
amends
to
require
all
information
to
be
available
electronically
and
to
update
language
806
kar
17
590
establishes
requirements
for
insurers
to
report
data
relating
to
the
number
and
type
of
providers
that
have
prescribed
medication
for
addiction,
treatment
to
its
insureds,
both
with
and
without
behavioral
therapy.
806
kr
18030
amends
to
clarify
that
if
a
parent
has
elected
a
newborn
dependent
to
be
covered
under
one
parent's
plan
within
the
newborn's
first
31
days
of
birth,
the
plan
benefits
of
the
selected
parent
would
be
primary.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
so
ordered
I'm
gonna
hold
I've
got
a
question.
I'm
gonna
hold
it
for
a
second
any
other
members
have
questions.
Okay,
seeing
none
on
k.r
17
300.
Could
you
go
into
detail
a
little
bit
about?
What's
what's
going
on
here?
What
we're
doing.
A
No,
no,
no,
the
reg
itself,
what
it's,
what
it's,
what
it's
doing
and
then
what
you're
changing!
I
guess
would
be
a
good
way
to.
O
That's
okay
and
then
the
amendments
we
provided
to
this
reg
several
months
ago.
We
were
looking
to
repeal
a
regulation,
but
we
had
some
forms
in
that
reg
we
needed
to
disperse
through
the
other
regulations,
so
we're
kind
of
finally
tying
that
up
and
we
had
to
amend
the.
If
you
go
into.
A
Thank
you
my
pleasure,
I'm
not
on
ralph's
or
senator
alvarado's
committee.
We
have
a
physician
on
the
committee
here
and
he's
okay
with
it.
So
I
guess
I'm
okay
with
senator
alvarado.
C
One
question
on
575:
that's
obviously
a
very
hot
topic
for
a
lot
of
members
of
the
general
assembly
with
pbms,
and
I
know
this
has
to
do
with
more
with
commercial
pharmacy
benefit
managers.
It
sounds
like,
and
I
noticed
that
you're
having
a
60-day
window
for
people
to
be
able
to
come
back,
I
mean.
Can
you
explain
the
reason
to
put
a
timeline,
I'm
looking
at
the
old
information
there
and
it
doesn't
appear
to
have
any
kind
of
a
timeline,
at
least
by
regulation?
C
Has
that
always
been
established
by
contract
for
them
as
far
as
being
able
to
go
back
and
have
an
appeal,
and
is
this
specifically
for
dois?
In
other
words,
I'm
wondering
why
we're
putting
in
a
60-day
at
the
bottom
of
page
one
and
section
one
there
one.
Actually,
I'm
sorry
section,
two
rather
one
or
sub-section,
two
section,
two
sub-section
two,
the
pharmacy
benefit
manager
shall
accept
an
appeal
submitted
by
a
contracted
pharmacy
honored
before
60
days
of
the
initial
claim
and
the
pharmacy
benefit
manager.
C
So
a
reason
I
know
that
the
language
below
that
is
stricken
out
is
that
just
again
clean
up
language
has
there
been
an
issue
with
that
in
terms
of
we're
trying
to
get
to
more
real-time
pbm
analysis
is
kind
of
part
of
my
reason
for
my
question
and
I'm
wondering
if
we're
having
to
do
this
or
they
have
to
go
backwards
in
time.
For
some
of
these
things,
maybe
you
could
comment
on
the
need
for
that.
O
So
that
was
actually
the
reason
that
the
old
language
was
stricken
was,
I
think,
drafting
requirements
to
make
it
the
language
flow
better.
But
there's
always
been
that
60
day.
As
far
as
I'm
aware
of
ormg
sean
arm,
do
you
have
anything
else
to
add
to
that
or
chad.
O
It's
not
necessarily
a
new
language,
it's
just
we've
structured
the
subsection
and
paragraphs
differently,
so
it
kind
of
moved
that
language
up.
C
C
Commercial
always
comes
last,
I
suppose,
in
terms
of
we
can
you
can
control
things
within
state
medicaid
and
those
kinds
of
things
better
to
have
that
60-day
backup
it
always
makes
it
more
difficult,
but
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
I
agree
with
you
senator
alvaro.
This
will
be
part
of
a
larger
conversation,
but
any
other
questions
seeing
none,
please
call
the
next
regulation.
Thank
you.
O
B
O
A
K
A
P
Senator
thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
quick
question,
hopefully
not
showing
my
ignorance
too
much
on
this.
I'm
looking
at
the
medication
guidelines
also
just
aware
of
some
different
litigation.
G
A
B
Cabinet
for
health
and
family
services,
department
for
public
health,
902,
kar,
10,
120,
121
and
190.
Several
of
these
have
staff
suggested
amendments.
E
902
kar
10
190
establishes
the
operation
and
maintenance
procedures
of
splash
pads
operated
by
a
local
government,
including
requirements
for
water
supplies,
sampling
testing,
quality
and
treatment,
sewage
wastewater
and
refuse
disposal,
design
and
construction,
spectator
and
user
rules,
inspections
and
conditions
requiring
closure.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
for
902,
kr,
10,
120
and
190,
and
then
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
and
formatting
requirements
of
krs
chapter
13a
and
to
make
clarifications.
A
Do
we
have
we
have
a
motion?
Do
we
have
a
second?
We
have
motion
and
second
without
objection
is
so
ordered,
so
we
have
before
us
three
regs,
as
amended,
amended
by
staff
amendments.
A
P
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
We
dealt
with
when
I
was
in
the
louisville
metro
council.
I
actually
passed
subordinances
dealing
with
quite
a
few
with
dylan's
swimming
pools.
One
of
the
issues
we
had
is
in
some
of
our
areas
there
just
weren't
they
didn't
exist.
What
we
had
done
is
a
local
level.
We
had
regulated
ourselves
to
the
point
that
it
was
no
longer
feasible,
and
so
we
had
little
areas,
communities
that
didn't
have
them.
I
noticed
back
then
that
the
standard
of
care
was
pretty
low
within
the
state
of
kentucky.
P
We,
you
know
locally.
We
did
things
above
and
beyond.
Are
any
of
these
regulations
today.
Are
I'm
trying
to
just
read
over
it
says,
update
the
disaffected
standards,
but
also
clarifying
the
life
and
safety
requirements,
including
the
required
number
of
lifeguards
and
required
safety
equipment.
How
are
we
changing?
That?
Is
there
going
to
be
more
than
one
lifeguard
so
about
required?
If
there's
so
many
people
in
a
pool
or
or
any
of
those
changes
before
us.
Q
So
the
lifeguard
requirements
are.
We
clarified
that,
for
most
of
your
standards,
pools
they're
the
rectangular
shape
and
for
those
that
exceed
2000
square
feet
of
water
we
require.
You
know
we
clarified
that
they
are
required
to
have
a
lifeguard
in
certain
areas
of
the
state,
louisville
being
a
prime
example.
You
have
water
parks
that
had
different
configurations
within
the
pull
facility,
so
it's
difficult
to
go
with
the
square
footage
determination,
so
we
actually
allowed
for
some
flexibility
for
the
pull
operator
to
determine.
Q
You
know
the
minimum
number
of
lifeguards
required
based
on
those
additional
features.
Q
P
And
so
that
was
my
question
then
I
guess
is
that
when
you
do
have
this,
is
it
based
on
the
number
of
individuals,
because
that's
one
thing
I
couldn't
find
in
the
law
before
so
whether
whatever
configuration
you
have
I'm
sure
the
number
of
lifeguards
necessary
would
be
different.
If
you
have
10
individuals
compared
to
500
individuals-
and
I
just
worry
about
the
market,
setting
that
standard
themselves
is
that
what
this
does?
Does
this
make
a
determination
based
on
the
individuals.
Q
Not
necessarily
it
does
set
the
minimum
number
of
lifeguard
coverage,
but
then
it
also
adds
additional
lifeguard
coverage
depending
on
the
bather
load,
which
again
the
number
of
people
that
are
at
the
facility
at
any
given
time
the
activities
so
those
different.
You
know
water
features
that
a
lot
of
pools
are
going
to
the
size
of
the
facility.
Q
A
larger
pool
is
going
to
need
more
lifeguards
and
then
also
the
configuration
and
if
they,
you
know
the
the
different
types
of
the
number
of
shallow
areas
versus
the
number
of
deepwater
areas,
so
all
of
that
will
be
depend.
The
number
of
lifeguards
will
be
dependent
on
all
of
those
factors
together,
but
we
do
have
the
minimum
that's
required
and
then
additional
lifeguards
may
be
required.
P
Q
A
R
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
curious
who
did
who
commented
on
these
lifeguard
regulations
relative
to
this
administrative
change.
Q
Q
There
was
the
general
counsel
and
co-owner
for
kentucky
kingdom
beech
ben
their
owner
commented
some
industry
leaders
that
don't
operate
in
in
kentucky.
They
made
some
comments
and
then
one
other
private
swim
club
owner
made
comments
on
the
lifeguard
requirements.
R
And
based
upon
their
comments,
did
you
make
any
adjustments
to
this?
We.
Q
Did
the
amended
after
comment
version,
so
we
met
with
following
the
public
hearing
and
when
we
started
working
on
the
statement
of
consideration,
we
actually
met
with
the
industry
folks,
kentucky
kingdom
staff
to
kind
of
talk
through
their
concerns
and
come
to
a
consensus,
and
that
is
the
additional
changes
that
we
made.
That
would
allow
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
for
a
facility.
Q
They'd
still
have
to
meet
the
minimum,
but
then
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
individual
entity
to
determine
kind
of
you
know
their
configuration
and
how
many
additional
lifeguards
they
need.
R
R
It's
my
understanding,
too,
that
the
state
parks
are
even
concerned
about
these
regulations
and
being
able
to
open
their
pools
during
the
summertime.
So,
mr
chairman,
I
think
that
this
is
one
that's
not
quite
ready
for
prime
time,
and
it
would
be
my
recommendation
if
it
would
be
the
will
of
the
committee
to
maybe
ask
for
a
deferral
so
that
we
can
continue
working
on
this.
You
know,
there's.
R
P
A
C
I
just
got
a
comment:
if
I
could.
Mr
chairman,
you
know
I've
heard
this
committee
you're
allowed
to
comment.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
that
the
the
concern
here
is
with
state
park
beaches
and
I've.
C
I've
got
here
some
commentary
that
this
would
have
an
enormous
and
that's
in
bold
letters,
enormous
impact
on
the
operation
of
kentucky
state
park,
beaches
likely
resulting
in
the
closure
of
most
of
them,
and
it
says
currently
we're
not
required
to
provide
lifeguards
at
beaches
if
we
do
not
change
admission
or
allow
unaccompanied
minors
into
the
facility.
C
So
that's
a
major
concern
in
a
time
right
now,
where
we're
coming
out
of
a
pandemic,
we're
trying
to
get
our
tourism
built
back
up
a
lot
of
our
you
know.
State
parks,
which
I
think
are
great
trying
to
get
those
built
back
up
and
get
people
attracted
to
have
the
pools
shut
down,
would
be
devastating.
I
know
for
fort
boonsboro,
which
that
pool
is
one
of
the
main
reasons.
C
A
Thank
you
senator
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
members.
Seeing
none
coming
back
to
senator
adams
request,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
ask
the
agency
if
they
would
be
willing
to
defer.
Q
A
For
clarification-
and
I
missed
it-
the
first
go
around.
Maybe
I
misunderstood,
you
you're
simply
asking
us
if
we
do
defer
to
defer
the
whole
package
at.
A
A
All
three
right
right:
yeah,
yeah!
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
so
the
motion
we
had
before
us
senator
adams
has
made
a
motion
for
the
deferral
of
kar-10120.
A
Q
A
B
Department
for
medicaid
services,
907
kar,
1,
0,
0,
5
907
k
are
17,
005
and
10
and
907
kar,
2001
and
20..
Several
of
these
have
staff
suggested
amendments.
D
K
A
P
One
question
or
clarification
this
would
exclude,
I
think
the
only
place
excluded
would
be
louisville
metro.
Is
that
correct
because
they
have
their
own
system
in
place,
or
would
this
also
be
available.