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A
A
A
B
D
101
2066
is
being
amended
to
update
terminology
101
to
102
is
being
amended
to
clarify
circumstances
for
payout
of
annual
leave
upon
termination
from
initial
probation,
clarify
character
of
service.
Upon
resignation,
clarify
the
responsibility
of
an
employee
to
provide
prior
notice
to
qualify
for
paid
leave
eligibility
clarify
that
a
non-exempt
employee's
election
of
compensatory
leave
or
overtime
pay
is
solely
the
choice
of
the
employee,
clarify
when
to
record
leave
for
absentee
voting.
D
Allow
for
the
appointing
authority
to
temporarily
remove
an
employee
from
the
workplace,
while
an
investigation
of
alleged
lack
of
good
behavior
or
unsatisfactory
performance
of
duties
is
being
conducted.
Add
a
subsection
for
discretionary
leave
with
pay
to
address
instances
where
an
employee
is
exposed
to
a
situation
that
requires
leave
from
work
for
the
employee's
welfare
and
clarify
eligibility
and
the
length
of
time
to
make
up
work
in
the
event
of
adverse
weather.
101
3015
is
being
amended
to
clarify
circumstances
for
payout
of
annual
leave
upon
termination
other
than
for
cause.
Clarify
character
of
service.
D
Upon
resignation,
clarify
the
responsibility
of
an
employee
to
provide
prior
notice
to
qualify
for
paid
leave
eligibility
clarify
that
a
non-exempt
employee's
election
of
compensatory
leave
or
overtime
pay
is
solely.
The
choice
of
the
employee
clarify
that
the
amount
of
compensatory
leave
that
may
be
carried
to
the
next
pay
period
is
changed
to
480
hours
for
employees
in
policy.
Making
positions
clarify
when
to
record
leave
for
absentee
voting.
D
Allow
for
discretionary
leave
with
pay
to
address
instances
where
an
employee
is
exposed
to
a
situation
that
requires
leave
from
work
for
the
employee's,
welfare,
clarify
eligibility
and
the
length
of
time
to
make
up
work
in
the
event
of
adverse
weather
and
clarify
the
eligibility
for
leave
for
blood
donation.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
to
101,
2102
and
3015
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
krs
chapter
13a.
A
You
can
take
a
breath
now.
Please
identify
yourself
with
the
record.
A
A
Without
objection
is
so
ordered
they
are
approved.
So
do
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that
list
or
anything
you
want
to
state.
A
I
have
one
question
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
for
other
questions,
but
you
know
in
the
budget
we
have.
You
know
we
want
a
report
from
personnel
for
raises
and
all
that
sort
of
thing
are
these
regs
at
all
connected
to
that
endeavor.
Or
is
this
I'm
assuming?
These
are
completely
separate?
They.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
just
to
clarify,
if,
if
you
could
please
in
this
one
section
here,
it
mentioned
clarifying
when
to
record
leave
for
absentee
voting.
Could
you
just
give
me
a
little
clarification
of
what
they
actually
have
to
do?
F
E
They're,
individual,
yes,
there
is
sir
there's.
Actually
we
have
a
voting,
leave
verification
form
that
the
employee
has
to
fill
out
and
they
have
to
tell
us
when
they
voted
in
the
county
they
voted
in
and
we
keep
that
on
file
in
case.
At
some
point
we
do
get
audited
at
times
to
prove
that
the
employee
actually
went
to
vote
and
in
the
past,
during
the
audits,
it
has
been
confirmed
that
some
employees
did
not
actually
go
and
vote.
An
appropriate
corrective
action
was
taken
against
those
employees.
F
E
A
A
Is
your
green
light
on
as
well?
It
is
some
of
those
you
have
to
pull
a
little
bit
closer
a
little
bit
closer
before
they
can
pick
up,
but
sounds
great.
There
are
no
amendments
to
this
regulation,
this
emergency
regulation,
I've
got
several
questions,
do
any
other,
I'm
going
to
open
up
to
other
members.
If
they
have
questions
anyone
else
have
questions
before
I
start
seeing.
None
so
just
briefly
go
through
what
this
e-rag
does.
Please.
G
Senator
if
I
could
just
start
by
thanking
members
of
this
committee
and
of
the
general
assembly
for
their
continued
support
of
the
people
of
eastern
kentucky
in
response
to
the
flooding
flooding
disaster,
including
by
posting,
the
team
eastern
kentucky
flood
relief
fund
on
the
website,
as
you
did
for
our
team,
western
kentucky
tornado
relief
fund
on
your
website.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We're
all
in
this
together.
That's
right!
That's
right
and
we'll
get
through
it
together.
That's
right,
strong
people,
and
also
to
thank
you
for
bipartisan
support
of
this
emergency
regulation.
G
Action,
as
expressed
by
representative
jason
nemes
publicly,
I
believe,
early
last
month
when
he
was
also
when
he
expressed
wholehearted
support
for
it
and
support
for
the
governor
requesting
the
epa
waive
the
rfg
requirements,
which
he
did
so
this
regulation,
you
know,
came
at
a
time
when
gas
prices
were
skyrocketing.
I
believe
we
were
nearing
450
and
the
trend
had
been
going
upward.
I
think,
the
month
before
it
was
about
75
cents
lower
per
gallon,
and
you
know
this
the
statute
issue
here
regarding
the
wholesale
price
when
that
was
passed,
the
general
assembly.
G
Certainly,
I
don't
think
anybody
thinks
the
general
assembly
intended
for
it
to
impose
an
increase
in
the
gas
tax
on
kentuckians
when
gas
prices
were
soaring,
like
they
were
earlier
this
summer.
So
this
under
the
authority
of
of
krs
131,
131,
130
and
krs
138
226,
the
department
has
the
authority
and
for
these
specific
range
of
taxes,
the
duty
to
administer
and
enforce
these
taxes
and
prescribe
regulations
relating
to
that
administration
enforcement
of
them.
G
So
this
was
an
action
to
provide
relief
to
kentuckians,
who
were
already
hurting
not
just
from
soaring
gas
prices
but
from
rising
costs
across
the
board,
and
so
that's
what
this
does.
It
froze
the
gas
tax
at
the
same
rate,
it
had
been
the
previous
seven
years
and
kept
that
tax
from
rising
automatically
on
july
1st
of
this
year
and
also
provided
the
department,
the
ability
to
notify
fuel
dealers
of
that
action,
so
that
which
they're
required
by
statute
to
do
that.
The
gas
tax
would
remain
the
same.
A
So
it
effectively
froze
it
at
26
point
something.
Is
that
correct.
A
Okay-
and
it
was,
it-
was
set
with
this
first
increase.
We
have
a
weird
formula
that
takes:
it
can
quickly
go
down,
but
takes
a
long
time
to
go
back
up,
but
this
is
this.
First
increase
was
set
to
go
up
two
or
three
cents
between
two
and
three
cents.
Is
that
correct.
A
What
was,
what
is
the
impact?
You
know,
we
know
two
cents
at
the
pump
so
on
the
back
side
going
into
the
road
fund.
What
is
the
fiscal
impact
going
to
be
to
the
road
fund.
G
And
I
believe
he
stated.
The
impact
on
the
road
fund
was
estimated
to
be
28.2
million
through
mid-january,
which
is
about
1.6
percent
of
the
enacted
road
fund
estimated
for
fiscal
year
23..
So
that
was
the
impact.
But
again,
as
secretary
grace
stated,
no
material
impact
on
the
transportation
cabinet's
budget.
A
A
A
A
And
so
I'm
assuming
when
you
all
were
discussing
this,
that
that
impact
was
considered,
the
impact
of
the
road
fund
was
considered
in
your
negotiation.
Your
thoughts
when
this
would
draw
forward
correct.
A
With
with
the
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky,
do
you
think
anything's
changed
as
far
as
let
me
rephrase
that,
with
with
the
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky
and
gas
prices
now
seem,
they
seem
to
be
trending
down?
Has
is
the
opinion
of
the
administration
changed
on
impact
to
road
fund
and
those
sorts
of
questions?
Are
we
still
full
speed
ahead
on
this?
This
e-wreck.
G
The
e-wreck's
still
in
effect,
I
think,
as
the
governor
has
mentioned
in
his
press
conferences,
that
the
positives
of
the
gas
prices
going
down
again
when
we
promulgated
this
e-reg.
That
was
the
direct
opposite
trend
and
we
didn't
see
an
end
in
sight
and
you
know
still
predictability
of
gas
prices.
I'm
not
sure
any
of
us
can
assure
would
would
not
trend
back
upward
for
one
reason
or
another.
G
I
know
and
rising
costs
in
other
areas
for
kentuckians
continue,
so
that
the
e-reg
is
still
in
effect,
and
I
would
have
to
defer
to
the
transportation
cabin
on
any
effect
with
the
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky.
But
my
understanding
is
that
it
that
would
not
have
an
impact
on
relief
efforts.
Recovery
efforts
in
eastern
kentucky.
A
I've
just
got
a
couple
more
questions
and
I'll
open
it
back
up
to
other
members
if
they
have
any
questions,
but
I
think
you've
already
stated,
but
if
you
could
restate
it
once
again
what
what
is
the
real
purpose
of
the
freeze
and
kind
of
where
I'm
headed
is
you
know
the
krs
that
we're
talking
about
is
pretty
clear
that
you
know
it's
a
mathematical
formula
and
so
we're
looking
at
two
things:
number
one:
does
the
administration
have
the
authority
to
do
it,
and,
secondly,
is
it?
A
Is
it
really
going
to
do
what
the
administration
intends
for
it
to
do
so,
let
me
start
there
and
tee
it
up
and
say
sure
what
is
the
real
impact
on
the
average
kentuckian,
so
if
an
average
person
goes
to
the
pump,
how
much
is
this?
How
much
is
this
really
going
to
save
them
at
the
pump.
G
Well,
the
purpose
is
to
to
help
kentuckians
when
they're
hurting
and
a
little
help
is
a
lot
better
than
no
help
at
all.
So
any
relief
we
can
provide
to
kentuckians
when
you
have
rising
costs
is
helpful
for
kentuckians.
It
helps
it
helps
folks,
so
that
that's
the
purpose
and
the
statutes.
You
know
we
believe
again
I'll
reset.
I
don't
think
when
they
were
passed.
G
And
you
know
again
keeps
the
tax
rate
the
same
it
had
been
for
seven
years.
We
believe
that
the
statutes
provide
that
authority
for
the
department
to
administer
these
tax
laws
and
that
the
statute
at
issue
that
sets
this
wasn't
was
meant
to
have
some
flexibility
throughout
the
year
when
there
are
rising
costs
such
as
we
faced
here
and
and
actually
needed
to
be
taken
to
help
folks,
but
do
do.
We
have.
A
A
A
J
G
Gallon
average
those
vehicles
might
get
the
average
for
kentuckians
and
specifically,
but
we'd
be
glad
to
follow
up
with
with
the
committee
members
on
any
specifics.
We
have.
A
Okay
and
the
reason
something
we
have
to
consider
as
a
legislature
and
obviously
the
executive
branch
has
to
consider
this
as
well.
Is
we've
got
about
75
bridges
out
in
eastern
kentucky
and
have
you
been
in
talks
with
the
transportation
cabinet
about
you
know
where
that
money's
coming
from
to
repair
those
bridges
and
because
we're
gonna
28
million?
That
would
repair
several
bridges
in
eastern
kentucky
and
and
we
understand
it's
a
balancing
act
right,
we're
balancing
interest,
and
so
what
was
that?
Is
that
being
considered.
G
I
can
say
ongoing
assessments
in
eastern
kentucky,
including
on
bridges
and
roads,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
are
aware,
and
those
are
going
to
continue
because
to
for
a
while
to
determine
the
extent
of
the
the
true
extent
of
the
damage
in
eastern
kentucky
across
those
counties.
G
We
need
to
do
the
right
thing
here
for
kentuckians,
and
so
you
know
those
that
assessments
ongoing,
and
you
know
I
know
the
we
are
committed
to,
as
you
all
are,
to
to
providing
whatever
is
necessary
for
kentuckians
in
eastern
kentucky
to
repair
all
the
damage,
including
bridges
and
to
you
know,
rebuild
coming
out
of
the
recovery.
A
C
Alvarado.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
No
in
your
comments,
you
said
that
you
weren't
you
couldn't
imagine
that
the
general
assembly's
intent
was
with
the
law
that
had
been
passed.
Many
of
us
here
today,
or
people
who
voted
on
that
on
that
legislation.
C
Did
the
administration
even
reach
out
to
any
members
of
the
general
assembly
prior
to
taking
this
action?
If
you
want
to
know
the
intent
and
what
we
intended
to
do
when
we
passed
it,
so
many
of
us
are
still
here
that
voted
for
that
I
didn't
get
a
phone
call.
I
don't
think
anybody
on
this
committee
got
a
phone
call.
Did
the
governor
or
anybody
from
his
administration
bother
to
reach
out
and
ask.
G
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
you
know,
as
in
the
last
session
senate
joint
resolution,
99,
which
the
senate
did
pass
related
to
motor
vehicle
taxes
and
that
relay
that
the
governor
had
authority
to
act
there,
similarly
to
how
he
acted
here,
to
freeze
attacks
on
kentuckians
at
a
time
when
rising
costs
were
occurring.
C
C
That's
what
the
entire
statute
says
so
somehow
in
there
you
think.
Well,
this
gives
us
the
authority
to
freeze
taxes
that
it
clearly
says
you
have
to
administer,
provide
it
under
that.
I
want
to
know
how
you
guys
can
interpret
that.
I
mean
it's
clear
that
we
said
this
is
what
we
need
to
do.
Here's
the
formula
we
set
forth.
We
had
a
big
debate
on
the
senate
floor.
I
remember
that
distinctly
and
people
cast
votes
on
that
people
send
us
here
to
cast
votes
on
that
only
to
have
one
guy.
C
Who
has
the
people
before
him
that
he
can
call
you
guys
can
call
any
of
us
contact
us,
send
us
a
letter?
What
do
you
think
about
this
we're
thinking
about
doing
this?
Was
this
your
intent?
Would
you
like
to
see
this
happen?
No,
we're
not
going
to
bother
to
contact
anybody,
we're
just
going
to
decide
ourselves
because
we
have
a
scepter
and
we
think
we're
kings,
and
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do.
C
I
find
this
kind
of
ruling
from
an
administration
ridiculous
when
you
have
people
that
are
willing
when
there's
a
the
thought
of
we're
all
in
this
together.
No
we're
not
not,
at
least
by
your
guys's
notion.
It's
we're
going
to
do
this.
We're
going
to
do
things.
One
person
make
a
decision
roll
it
out
there
and
try
to
explain
it
afterwards
when
you
could
have
incorporated
any
of
us
in
the
opinions
of
many
people,
even
our
leadership,
who
have
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
have
been
here
when
these
laws
were
enforced.
C
No
one
bothers
to
do
that
that
bothers
the
fire
out.
I
mean,
I
think
it
buys
the
bothers
the
fire
of
most
kentuckians.
So
again,
I
don't
think
you
have
the
authority
to
do
these
kinds
of
things.
If
you
want
to
incorporate
them
and
ask
you,
can
ask
members
of
the
legislature
here
and
willing
to
talk,
but
this
has
been
a
common
theme.
There's
no
interest
in
discussions.
C
A
Thank
you
senator
alvarado.
Yes,
I
just
to
chime
in
and
echo
some
of
what
senator
alvarado
has
stated,
I'm
painfully
aware
of
of
the
gas
tax
formula,
because
I
was
sworn
into
the
senate
in
2015
at
noon
and
had
to
vote
on
the
gas
tax
either
that
day
or
the
next
day.
So
that
was
one
of
my
first
votes
in
the
senate
so
and
painfully
aware
of
we.
We
definitely
thought
about
it
and
we
have
intent.
A
When
we
put
this
formula
into
place,
we
can
argue
whether
it's
right
or
wrong,
but
moving
on
from
there,
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
motion
for
deficiency
today,
but
this
this
reg
will
move
on
to
dnr
and
and
there
can
possibly
be
a
defense
deficiency
motion
there
and
we
we
do
have
a
real
question
as
to
whether
this
exceeds
the
governor's
statutory
authority
to
do
this
at
this
time.
A
In
your
opinion-
and
you
may
may
or
may
not
have
consulted
him
on
this,
but
you
know
we
hear
a
lot
of
talk
about
a
special
session
associated
with
eastern
kentucky.
Do
you
think
the
governor
would
be
willing
to
make
this
issue
part
of
the
call,
and
so,
if
he
really
wanted
to
to
for
the
legislature,
to
chime
in
and
to
make
a
statement,
do
you
think
he'd
be
willing
to
make
that
part
of
the
call
where
we
could
legislatively
freeze
it
for
a
certain
period
of
time?
G
A
I
would
suggest
that
that
line
of
communication
that
we
would
he
could
talk
to
us
and
then
maybe
that
could
be
considered
as
part
of
a
special
session
and
part
of
the
call
so
and.
G
Earlier
on
on
recovery
in
eastern
kentucky,
I
know
we
do
have
a
large
general
fund
surplus
that
helps
so
too
and
again
in
response
to
senator
alvarado's
concerns
and
your
senator
west
again,
we
we
do
not
interpret
the
statutes
in
a
way
meant
to
increase
the
cost
of
gas
at
times
when
of
great
cost.
K
F
In
conversations
with
two
county
judge
executives
in
my
district
small
counties,
rural
counties,
they
they
brought
to
my
they
brought
questions
as
I
attended
their
physical
court
meetings
about
the
impact,
even
though
it's
just
two
cents,
but
the
in
the
impact
was
going
to
affect
them,
not
not
an
incredible
amount,
but
in
in
those
counties
with
primarily
rural
roads
in
their
counties.
They
they
felt
like
this
could
be
a
could
have
a
detrimental
impact
on
funds
that
they
would
not
receive,
and
and
again
they
had
concerns
about
that.
F
I
think
the
savings
and
based
on,
of
course,
based
on
the
amount
of
gallons
you
buy
and
the
amount
of
what
you're
getting
per
gallon
on
your
vehicle,
but
giving
a
range.
I
think
it.
The
savings
would
be
somewhere
between
13
and
20
dollars
per
year,
less
than
a
dollar
a
month
or
a
little
over
a
dollar
a
month,
dollar
and
a
quarter
a
month.
So
that's
not
a
that's,
not
a
great
savings.
F
When
we
look
at
the
impact
that
this
could
have
on
some
of
our
especially
our
rural
roads,
when
we,
when
we're
talking
about
a
savings
of
somewhere
between
13
and
20
dollars
per
year,
and
would
you
like
to
comment
on
that.
G
Sure,
representative
and
again
not
knowing
exact
estimates,
having
done
those
myself,
but
in
response
to
your
first
concern
of
the
the
two
county
judge
executives,
I
think
you
referenced
that
you
had
spoken
to.
I
know
I
believe
the
governor
has
committed
to
propose
to
make
local
governments
whole
in
the
next
regular
session.
G
G
You
know
it's.
Some
relief
is
better
than
none
and
I'll.
Just
keep
saying
I
can
tell
you.
I
was
down
at
eastern
kentucky
this
past
weekend
and
I
can't
imagine
I
wasn't
even
in
the
worst
parts
that
were
affected
by
the
the
devastation
but
you're
talking
to
people
who
just
want
you
to
listen
or
give
you
the
name
of
someone
that
can
reach
out
to
or
an
address
or
where
they
can
go
apply
for
assistance
and
following
up
with
them
means
the
world
to
them.
And
you
know
that's
just
a
little
help.
G
G
I
know
that
you
are
supporting
these
relief
funds
for
these
disasters.
We've
unfortunately
had
right
back
to
back
this
past
nine
months,
not
even,
but
I
wanted
to-
let
folks
know
too
and
and
be
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
if
you
need
any
specifics
or
questions
or
ways
to
get
this
out
to
your
constituents,
but
the
other
funds
that
are
available
to
help
kentuckians.
G
During
this
time
we
have
our
eviction
relief
fund,
which
july
of
last
month,
sent
out
more
than
about
13.3
million
dollars.
That
was
a
45
increase
from
from
june
of
showing
that
that's
an
issue
that
is
increasing
and
there
to
help
landlords
and
renters
with
utilities
and
rent
our
homeowners
assistance
fund.
Our
nonprofit
relief
fund,
which
I
think,
as
of
last
friday,
have
received
more
than
500
applications
requesting
over
35
million
dollars
our
affordable
connectivity
assistance
for
broadband.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
those
funds
that
can
provide
some
help
to
kentuckians
out
there
outside
of
this
awful
disaster
we
have
in
eastern
kentucky,
but
in
addition
to
the
relief
that
they
can
receive
from
various
resources
at
the
state
government
level
and
the
federal
government
level
and
again,
if
you
all
have
any
need
any
information
about
those,
you
can
reach
out
to
me
directly
and
I'll.
Get
you
an
answer
immediately.
G
A
I
A
D
201
19035
is
being
amended
to
provide
the
kentucky
board
of
architects.
The
discretion
of
verifying
an
examination
applicant
is
of
good
moral
character
rather
than
the
mandatory
obligation
of
verifying
it
and
update
the
titles
and
editions
of
material
incorporated
by
reference.
201
19087
is
being
amended
to
update
the
process
for
reporting
continuing
education
courses.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
to
these
regulations
amends
various
sections
and
the
material
incorporated
by
reference
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
care,
chapter
13a
and
make
technical
changes.
A
H
Change
emergency
medical
technician
to
emergency
medical
responder
as
a
requirement
for
drivers
of
all
classes
of
ground
ambulances
and
delete
requirement
for
a
certified
emergency
medical
responders,
who
were
drivers
prior
to
january,
1
2018
to
be
employed
by
the
same
agency.
In
order
to
continue
to
be
drivers.
A
You
there
are
no
amendments,
so
we'll
move
right
into
questions.
I
senator
alvarado
I'll.
Let
you
start.
C
Well,
it's
it's,
but
having
less
requirements
for
ems
be
present
during
certain
runs.
If
you
get
explained
as.
J
To
why
we
need
to
do
so,
the
the
emr
will
lower
the
requirements
just
a
bit
for
the
driver.
It
will
not
lower
the
requirements
for
the
attendant,
and
currently
there
are
some
regulations
we've
been
using
on
and
off
for
the
past
couple
of
years
that
allows
a
cpr
and
first
aid
or
cpr
and
driver
trained
to
drive
the
ambulance.
So
this
will
give
some
training
minimum
training,
but
a
little
bit
less
than
the
emt
and
folks
the
agencies
can
get
those
members
trained
much
faster
than
they
can
the
others.
A
Thank
you.
I
kind
of
I'll
follow
up
with
senator
alvarado's
question
when
I
read
the
summary
it
it
made,
it
appear
like
we
were,
making
these
ambulances
less
safe,
because
you
know
you've
got
you,
don't
have
a
parameter.
You
don't
have
to
have
a
paramedic
on
there,
as
often
in
in
the
24-hour
period
that
sort
of
thing.
So
just
I
know
you
covered
it
at
a
high
level,
but
if
you
could
just
like
a
normal
aim
like
a
a
rural
ambulance
service
who
has
five
ambulances
sure?
How
will
this
rag
affect
them?.
J
So,
quite
frankly,
the
bottom
line
is,
is
there's
just
not
the
staff
to
to
do
the
25
and
there's
no,
no
hiding
that.
So,
when
you
look
in
the
rural
areas
there,
there
were
some
cases
and,
as
you
talk
about
in
particular,
maybe
doing
more
basic
level
runs
or
something.
Well.
Agencies
are
running
up
against
a
wall,
they
say
at
least
we
could
put
on
a
bls
crew,
but
we
can
only.
J
A
A
A
A
Any
other
questions
senator
yates.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
K
I've
litigated
some
negligence,
cases
related
to
immigrants
and
our
standard
of
care
is
already
pretty
low
in
kentucky
compared
to
other
places,
and
so
it
worries
me
right
now.
If
we're
going
to
sit
in
this
room
and
we're
going
to
pass
a
rig
to
make
it
even
less
safe
for
our
constituents.
K
K
I
understand
I'm
not
chastising
you
guys
here,
because
you're
dealing
with
what
you
got,
but
would
there
be
other
ways
to
incentify
proper
training
if
you
brought
in
to
you
know,
if
there's
just
emr,
to
have
someone
a
period
of
time
that
you
have
six
months
to
be
emt
trained
once
you're
hired
on
and
then
there's
that
that
pay
incentive,
I
get
it
you're
going
to
put
your
money
where
your
mouth
is,
but
shouldn't
that
be
a
primary
obligation
to
this
to
this
government
is
public
safety.
K
J
So
first
I
I
don't
know
that
I'm
willing
to
agree
that
the
standard
of
care
in
kentucky
is
less
than
that
of
neighboring
states,
so
other
states
right
of
other
states.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
would
concede
to
that
right
off,
but
with
that
being
said,
do
would
it
be
preferable
to
have
a
paramedic
on
every
ambulance?
Absolutely
would
be
preferable
if
there
were
more
money
and
funding.
Absolutely
that
would
be
greater.
J
K
Again,
we're
all
in
the
same
team
here
sure,
and
so
I
I
think,
I'd
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
if
the
request
today
was
for
additional
funding
for
these
services,
as
opposed
to
a
request
to
just
lower
the
standard
of
care,
I'm
not
going
to
follow
ask
for
a
deficiency
because
I
understand
particulars,
but
I
did
want
to
bring
attention
to
this
body.
We
got
a
major
problem.
K
I
know
we
got
a
major
problem
across
all
these
thresholds,
but
this
is
one
where
we
know
that
other
areas
have
incentified
they've
taken
some
of
our
talent
and
they've
done
that
by
throwing
bucks
where
the
problem
is
we're
going
to
have
to
compete
and
we
are
below
a
lot
of
other
states-
and
I
know
that
just
by
bringing
in
experts
from
some
of
my
cases
and
part
of
me
being
elected
is
to
bring
us
back
up.
So
thank
you.
A
Any
other
questions
for
members
yeah.
I
would
like
to
echo
some
of
what
sentry
yates
has
stated.
I
don't
think
this
is
the
proper
time
for
to
call
for
deficiency
or
anything
like
that,
because
you
guys
are
wrapped
up
in
a
in
a
much
larger
issue:
the
workforce,
a
workforce
issue
that
that
we
as
a
legislature
are
attempting
to
grapple
with,
and-
and
so
it's
thanks
for
the
explanation,
I
have
nothing
else
to
add
any
other
questions
from
members.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
There
is
a
staff
amendment.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
staff
amendment?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
is
so
ordered
any
other
question
any
questions
from
members
on
this.
I
have
one
question
so
you
know
across
the
country
we're
seeing
you
know:
parents
chime
in
at
school
board
meetings
and
and
be
more
and
more
involved
in
their
child's
education.
I
think
that's
probably
one
of
the
the
highlights
or
the
the
the
silver
linings
of
covid
is
parents
are
have
been
able
to
see.
A
You
know
what
happens
in
their
day-to-day
education
of
their
children,
and
so
this
deals,
this
kind
of
is
around
the
you
know
deals
with
the
edges
of
that,
and
so
could
you
explain
to
the
committee,
you
know
what
does
a
current
situation
look
like
and
then
how
will
this
change
change
that.
K
Sure
so
the
regulation
is
designed
not
to
really
change
anything.
It
was
designed
to
provide
clarity
because
we
had
some
questions
from
school
districts
about
how
this
operates.
We
have
both
federal
law,
ferpa,
the
family,
educational
rights
and
privacy
act
that
governs
this
topic
as
well
as
parallel
state
law,
kentucky
ferpa,
and
so
we
needed
a
regulation
that
that
complies
with
both
of
those
they're
very
similar
to
one
another
and
the
language
that
was
in
this
regulation.
Hadn't
been
updated
in
many
years
and
was
rather
confusing.
K
So,
for
example,
you
see
references
just
to
the
parent,
but
both
ferpa
and
kentucky
ferpa
reference,
a
parent
or
eligible
student
and
typically
an
eligible
student-
is
one
who's
reached
18
years
old.
So
they
have
the
decision-making
rights
at
that
point
in
time
and
the
right
to
the
hearing
would
be
theirs.
So
this
this
really
doesn't
change
anything
from
the
current
situation.
K
If
someone
has
a
problem
with
an
educational
record,
that's
created
at
the
school
whether
it's
a
student
report
card
a
disciplinary
report,
something
of
that
nature.
I
would
say
that
most
of
the
time
in
kentucky
public
schools,
those
are
handled
informally
through
contact
with
the
parent
to
the
principal
or
someone
at
the
district
level,
and
most
things
are
taken
care
of.
In
the
event,
they
cannot
get
the
matter
resolved
informally.
K
A
A
A
K
A
Outside
legal
issue
right
so
this
this,
this
reg
does
nothing
to
change
that
fact,
and
and
and
in
most
cases,
the
parent,
if
they
want
a
record,
a
copy
of
a
record,
all
they
got
to
do
is
ask
the
principal
or
somebody
at
the
school,
and
so
this
give
me
an
example
of
a
situation
where
this
might
arise.
Like
you've
already
exhausted
your
your
efforts,
the
first
the
first
go
around
and
you're
now
into
the
to
the
hearing
phase.
So
what.
K
K
So
they're
rather
informal
what
the
change
in
this
regulation
was
really
designed
to
clarify
previously
referenced.
A
certified
individual
and
school
districts
contacted
us
and
said:
do
you
mean
a
certified
teacher
who's
certified
by
the
education
professional
standards
board?
Or
do
you
mean
a
certified
hearing
officer
we're
confused?
That
was
the
whole
reason
that
we
updated
the
regulation.
K
We
removed
the
language
around
certified
completely
because
we
determined
that
neither
federal
nor
state
law
required
to
be
a
hearing
officer
under
krs-13b
and
it
doesn't
require
to
be
a
certified
individual.
So
there
may
be
a
classified
person
in
the
school
district
who
can
oversee
and
conduct
that
hearing
they
happen
very
infrequently.
K
Thankfully,
school
districts
around
the
state
all
have
policies
in
their
policies
and
procedures
manual
that
govern
this,
but
it
would
be
a
rather
informal
hearing
where
a
school
district
employee
appointed
by
the
superintendent
comes
forward
and
presides
over
the
hearing
and
both
of
the
parties
put
on
their
arguments
and
case
as
to
why
the
current
education
record
is
inaccurate
or
misleading.
In
some
way.
I
would
say
that
most
often
relates
to
disciplinary
records,
but
it
doesn't
have
to.
A
So
so
the
main
the
main
effort
would
be
to
the
parent,
has
a
problem
or
an
issue
with
the
the
records
and
they
want
those
changed.
That's
the
main,
correct.
Okay,
I
have
no
further
questions.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
members
seeing
none?
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Please
call
the
next
regulation.
M
E
With
the
record
sure,
good
afternoon,
warren
mcfarland,
deputy
general
counsel,
education,
labor.
A
M
N
O
A
Thank
you.
There
are
no
amendments.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
members
on
this?
These
regulations
seeing
none
the
committee
will
stand
at
ease
for
just
one
moment.
A
And
you
guys
are
well
aware,
because
I
know
you've
been
involved
in
this
issue.
We've
we've
been
involved
in
this
issue
for
a
year
or
so,
and
when
we
had
you
know,
we
had
a
rig
that
was
found
efficient,
dealt
with
a
medical
director
and
all
that
sort
of
thing.
So
please
compare
the
reg
that
was
found
deficient
in
this
this
regulation.
I
know
we've
taken
that
medical
director
entirely.
O
In
large
part,
it
is
what
existed
prior
to
the
amendment
bef
with
a
medical
director.
It
basically
gives
a
set
of
guidance
to
folks
going
through
utilization
review.
O
I'm
not
sure
if
you're,
all
aware
of
what
utilization
review
is,
but
utilization
review
gives
an
employer
an
opportunity
to
determine
whether
proposed
or
actually
passed,
medical
treatment
was
reasonable,
necessary
and
the
best
course
of
action
that
also
allows,
then
the
employee
not
to
receive
unneeded
medical
treatment.
That
sort
of
thing
we
now,
of
course,
have
treatment
guidelines
and
all
the
utilization
review
now
is
directed
to
use
those
guidelines
when
they're
actually
assessing
that
treatment.
O
A
Real
quickly,
if
you
could,
I
know
it's
it's
fairly
complicated
but
compare
how
the
process
currently
works
and
how
it's,
how
it's
currently
reviewed
and
how
this
will
change
the
existing
process.
O
Well,
it
actually
well
depends
what
you
mean
by
existing
the
the
the
the
prior
with
the
medical
director.
You
had
a
second
level
of
well,
I
should
back
up
and
say
you,
you
went
to
an
initial.
Let
me
let.
A
O
A
O
O
Basically,
it's
the
same
as
it
was
before,
with
the
exception
of
we
changed
some
of
the
dates
so
that
they
were
all
business
dates
rather
than
calendar
dates
and
some
business.
That
kind
of
thing
we
also
were
tweaking
the
chronology
of
this.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
we
had
some
comments
about
some
dates,
just
not
matching
up
because
utilization
reviews
referenced
in
other
regulations
and
some
of
those
dates
didn't
match
up,
and
so
we
added
some
of
those
and
some
conditions
that
didn't
exist
before
we
didn't
have
peer
to
peer
before.
O
So
we
had
to
add
what
we
call
peer-to-peer
peter
peer-to-peer
is
simply
where
a
treating
physician
they
requested
pre-authorization
for
a
treatment
that
treatment
got
denied.
Then
the
treating
doctor
has
a
right
then,
to
ask
for
a
peer-to-peer
review
with
someone
of
like
qualifications
and
actually
sets
a
time
and
a
phone
number
and
so
forth
that
the
reviewing
physician
can
call.
So
everybody
is
that
new.
A
O
Is
new,
it
came
in
with
the
treatment
guidelines
and
the
formulary
regulations.
N
And
senator
west
fma
ads
just
real
quick.
This
actually
afforded
us
an
opportunity
to
do
a
lot
of
cleanup
on
some
things
that,
as
you
just
mentioned
tweaking
since
the
census
regulation
was
originally
in
fact
back
in
1996,
for
instance,
the
idea
about
the
business
days
versus
calendar
day,
some
confusion.
I've
been
practicing
law
for
workers
com
for
over
30
years,
and
it
was
a
confusing
and,
I
always
said,
be
on
the
safe
side.
N
Let's
go
with
the
shorter
days,
as
opposed
to
the
more,
and
also
too
we've
also
tried
to
do
is
to
find
better
what
does
again
a
specialty
and
so
forth.
So
we
have
neuro
to
ortho,
or
we
have
some
sort
of
comparison.
What
we're
talking
about?
It
gave
us
a
great
opportunity
with
the
feedback
we
received
from
the
stakeholders
and
what
we
can
do
to
tweak
this
and,
of
course,
we're
also
going
to
be
coming
back
with
195
regular
and
we're
going
to
be
using
some
of
those
statements
as
well
with
this
mainly
so.
N
This
is,
how
do
I
say:
190
2.0
we
climb
back
together,
try
to
tweak
it
and
make
it
fair
and
makes
more
sense
on
problems
that
people
came
forward.
So
we
took
that
as
advantage
to
change
that.
B
I
801
o
amends
the
split
sample
testing
procedures
to
require
the
owner
or
trainer
to
select
a
laboratory
within
five
days
and
the
sample
to
be
shipped
within
the
following
seven
days,
9010
amends
to
allow
the
commission
or
its
executive
director
to
publicly
disclose
information
about
an
alleged
violation
if
the
information
will
not
unduly
impact.
An
investigation
requires
that
a
stewards
or
judge's
hearing
be
conducted
within
60
days
after
the
notification
of
a
violation
or
the
receipt
of
the
split
laboratory
results.
I
E
Thank
you,
jamie
eads
interim
executive
director.
A
A
A
K
B
H
902
kr
8
100
amends
to
clarify
the
situations
that
may
warrant
disciplinary
action
and
make
technical
and
other
corrections
to
comply
with
keras
chapter
13,
a
806
0
and
8
100.
Both
make
have
staff
amendments
that
make
changes
to
comply
with
karis
chapter
13,
a
902
kr
10
140
amends
to
clarify
that
probationary
and
provisional
certification
are
equal,
add
a
fee
of
45
for
certification,
renewal
and
advancing
to
the
next
level
of
certification,
including
to
clarify
that
the
fee
is
paid
to
the
environmental
management
branch
in
the
department
for
public
health.
H
Add
certification
requirements
for
progression
to
the
master
certification
level,
including
to
tier
continuing
education
requirements
for
installers
certified
at
the
master
level
to
be
six
hours
every
two
years
and
make
technical
corrections.
The
staff
amendment
for
10
140
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
keras
chapter
13,
a
902
kr
3120
amends
to
clarify
evaluation
procedures
and
assessment
processes
for
those
infants
and
toddlers
who
are
referred
for
early
intervention
services,
expand
eligibility
for
infants
and
toddlers
with
hearing
loss
and
update
material
incorporated
by
reference,
including
to
provide
a
website
link
to
the
material.
A
Thank
you.
There
are
staff
amendments.
Is
there
a
motion
for
privileged
staff
amendments?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
just
so
ordered.
I
believe
senator
alvarado
has
a
question
just.
C
Really
quickly
on
the
060
on
the
salary
adjustments
for
local
health
departments.
Looking
at
the
fiscal
note
at
the
end
of
this,
this
is
going
to
be
passed
on
to
local
health
departments
to
absorb
the
cost.
Is
that
correct?
If
there's
increases
for
this?
Are
these
decisions
made?
C
If
you
could
explain
a
bit
for
this,
because
I
mean
it's
going
to
it
sounds
like
there's.
The
way
it
was
described
is
a
five
percent
increase.
It
can
be
and
it
can
be
above
that
amount.
How
much
are
we
looking
at
for
increased
costs,
because
we've
we've
had
numerous
sessions
in
a
row
where
local
health
departments
are
saying
please
we're
underfunded,
give
us
more
funds,
we
need
more
and
now
this
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
something
that
can
potentially
increase
those
costs.
If
you
could
explain
that.
E
I
can
try-
and
this
is
actually
a
at
the
request
of
local
health
department
directors.
The
process
is
currently
that,
if
a
local
board
of
health
wants
to
provide
a
discretionary
increase
for
or
salary
increase
for
the
local
health
department
director,
they
have
to
seek
approval
of
that
from
the
commissioner
for
the
department
for
public
health.
So
this
just
would
remove
that
layer.
It
currently
that
the
burden
for
funding
that
lies
with
the
local
health
departments
as
it
is
currently
so
it
doesn't
really
change.
As
far
as
that
funding.
C
A
Thank
you
along
that
line.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
cap
on,
I
mean
we're
we're
theoretically
removing
the
five
percent.
Well,
the
approval
from
the
state
of
the
five
percent,
so
is.
Is
it
unlimited
now,
so
they
it's
it's
total
discretion
at
the
local
local
level.
Yes,
okay,
okay,
any!
I
have
no
questions
on
that.
Any
other
questions,
seeing
none,
please
call
the
next
regulation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
This
regulation
amends
to
allow
certain
substance
use
disorder
drugs
to
receive
additional
dispensing
fees
per
month
by
allowing
the
fee
to
be
available
once
every
seven
days.
It
updates
340b
data
tracking
measures.
It
removes
cost-sharing
requirements
in
accordance
with
21
regular
sessions
senate
bill
55,
and
clarifies
that
both
in-house
and
contract
340b
pharmacy
reimbursements
do
not
include
the
340b
ceiling
price
and
the
lowest
of
logic
methodology.
A
Thank
you.
There
are
no
amendments,
so
we
can
discuss
the
regulation
at
hand
if
you
have
any
questions
from
members
on
this
set
of
eggs,
if
you
could
just
briefly
go
through.
I
know
this
is
a
very,
very
important
issue
of
you
know:
people
who
are
in
recovery,
who
are
relying
on
these
drugs
to
get
through
the
day.
A
L
L
Mike
sorry
about
that,
that
was
a
change
that
we
made
when
we
refiled
this
this
administrative
regulation
back
in
june.
We
originally
had
it
out
there
as
an
emergency
and
we
needed
to
make
the
340b
changes,
and
so,
at
the
same
time,
we
had
completed
an
analysis
that
that
we
decided
we
were
going
to
switch
to
this
for
certain
qualifying.
Sud
drugs
mat
drugs,
medication,
assisted
treatment,
drugs.
L
We
were
going
to
allow
for
a
for
the
possibility
of
a
once
every
seven
day,
dispensing
fee
instead
of
a
monthly
dispensary
once
every
23
day
dispensing
fee
for
just
for
drugs
that
meet
the
applicable
standard
of
care
and
that's
what's
published
in
the
the
kbn
and
the
kbml
regulations.
L
It
should
yes,
yes,
okay.
We
don't
necessarily
know
that
there
would
have
been
a
large
impact
to
the
to
the
recipient
beforehand,
but
but
this
will
help
with
reimbursement
for
the
pharmacy
providers.
C
Just
to
be
clear,
jonathan,
this
is
this
is
a
hot
topic.
We
know
this
has
been
a
big
issue,
so
the
way
I'm
reading
the
regulation,
then,
is
if
someone,
for
example,
has
suboxone,
which,
typically,
if
it's
a
pill
form
people
have
to
go
in
when
they're
first
inducted
on
this
drug
and
they're
first
started
on
it
to
go
through
substance
use
recovery.
C
C
C
M
The
amended
after
commons
version
adds
one
definition
increases
from
6
to
10.
The
minimum
hours
of
annual
foster
home
training,
deletes
provisions
pertaining
to
therapeutic
foster
care
homes
and
updates
incorporated
material.
The
staff
suggested
a
momentum
in
various
sections
to
comply
with
krs
chapter
13a.
H
922
kr1
315
establishes
standards
for
child,
placing
agencies
that
provide
contracted,
foster
care
and
adoptive
placements
for
children
who
are
not
in
the
custody
of
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services.
Consistent
with
model
federal
standards,
including
many
requirements
previously
contained
in
922
kr1310.
H
H
Amends
to
establish
requirements
for
independent
living
sites,
including
a
scattered
or
supervised
site,
in
which
children
in
the
custody
of
the
cabinet,
who
are
at
a
certain
age,
may
be
placed
by
a
private
child
care.
Placing
agency
expand
the
independent
living
programming
to
include
topics
such
as
benefits
available
to
former
foster
children,
financial
literacy
and
career
exploration
and
correct
citations.
A
A
F
Thank
you
co-chair.
My
only
question
is
on
001
310
on
the
section
there
that
states
that
it
the
increase
from
six
to
ten
hours,
the
minimum
hours
of
the
annual
foster
home
training.
What
and
and
I'm
not
speaking
against
that,
I'm
just
saying
what
what
precipitated
that
change
from
six
to
ten?
Yes,.
B
A
Any
other
questions
for
members
seeing
none.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
We
do
not
have
a
regulation
to
call
that
is
the
end
of
this
meeting.
Do
we
have
I'm
sure
staff
will
talk
to
us
about
dates
for
our
next
meeting.
We.
B
Are
currently
scheduled
for
september
13th,
which
is
the
second
tuesday
in
september,
at
1pm,
okay,.