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A
A
So
we
do
have
a
quorum
if
you
allow
me
please
to
deviate
from
our
agenda
just
slightly
like
to
take
a
moment
and
ask
us
to
offer
a
silent
prayer
to
those
who
have
lost
their
lives
in
eastern
kentucky
and
those
folks
who
are
still
dealing
with
the
aftermath
of
that.
So,
if
you
would
please
moment
of
silence.
A
A
C
A
A
Appreciate
you
joining
us,
and
this
is
a
follow-up
from
last
month.
Senator
southworth
has
some
questions.
F
Thank
you
now
that
we've
been
able
to
see
what
exactly
the
contract
is.
My
question
is:
we
have
an
increase
in
funds
here,
but
I
know
over
the
past
couple
of
years
it's
been
pretty
well
publicized
that
our
inmate
population
has
gone
down
quite
a
bit.
I'm
wondering
if
this
increased
cost
is
because
inmates
are
just
using
more
drugs
or
is
this
we
actually
don't
have
less
inmates
or
drug
costs
or
inflating
or
what's
the
explanation.
C
It
could
be
a
combination
of
both.
I
would
have
to
get
review
the
detailed
billing
from
each
month.
Our
our
costs
do
vary.
Some
of
it
is
based
on
the
population
numbers
which
is
still
down.
However,
you
know
we
don't
can't
predict
what
the
health
care
needs
of
the
inmate
population
will
be
at
any
given
time.
You
know
we
treat
cancer,
hiv
hep
c,
a
variety
of
health
care
needs
of
our
population.
A
C
Yes
and
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote,
I
do
this
same
type
of
in
my
other
work
as
a
business
owner,
do
the
same
type
of
work
for
kind
of
long-term
care
facilities
in
the
pharmacy
industry,
and
I've
looked
at
this
contract
myself
and
we
cannot
get
anywhere
close
on
the
price
of
drugs
that
diamond
drug
gets
to.
C
So,
although
we
do
see
an
increase,
a
lot
of
those
like
hepatitis,
medicines
medications,
a
lot
of
those
that
are
brand
name
have
continued
to
go
up
and
up
and
up
you
see
more
of
that
in
that
population,
and
I
know
the
state's
getting
a
good
deal
on
this.
So
I
vote
yes.
Thank
you.
B
A
Hi
motion
carries
and
representative.
I
appreciate
your
explanation
of
your
vote
in
the
additional
detail:
great
deal
of
confidence
in
this
contract.
I
appreciate
that
and
folks
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
morning.
Next
order
of
business
consideration
agenda,
including
the
corrections
list,
the
deferred
list,
personal
service
contract
list,
psc
amendment
list,
memorandum
of
agreement
list,
memorandum
of
agreement,
amendment
list
and
kentucky
entertainment
incentive
program
agreement
list,
except
for
those
items
selected
for
further
review.
Do
we
mostly
consider
the
contract
review
without
objection.
C
A
A
A
Thank
you
both
for
joining
us
this
morning
and
I
request
this
contract
be
pulled
and
I'll
apologize
to
you,
because
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
you
folks
can
do
or
explain.
Probably
that's
going
to
change
my
position
on
this.
This
is
a
long-standing
issue
that
I've
had
that.
I
just
don't
want
to
see
us
do
business
with
companies
that
are
based
out
of
california
because
of
their
boycott
of
our
economy,
based
on
legislation.
A
We
passed,
I
believe,
back
in
2018.,
so
I
really
don't
know
that
I
have
any
specific
questions
other
than
just
to
register
my
objection
that
I
don't
want
to
improve
any
contracts
from
california
until
they
reverse
their
position
on
this.
But
I
guess
I
could
ask:
is
there
any
other
vendor
that
could
provide
these
services.
E
E
All
of
our
correspondence
is
with
their
branch
based
out
of
nashville
and
they
provide
the
services
listed
there
for
us
on
game
day
and
all
of
that
workforce
comes
from
the
state
of
kentucky
and
the
state
of
tennessee
and
a
little
bit
in
over
in
indiana.
So,
although
they
are
based
in
california
there's
nobody
on
our
campus
working
that
that
is
from
the
state
of
california.
A
I
appreciate
that,
but
eventually
all
the
dollars
flow,
uphill
and
the
money
will
eventually
go
to
the
the
corporate
offices
in
california
and
that's
my
objection
again
had
no
issue
with
the
quality
services
were
rendered.
It's
just
this
philosophical
difference
that
we
have
that
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point:
is
there
a
motion
to
prove
the
contract.
A
C
C
C
Csc
does
an
excellent
job
with
game
day
admissions
regulation
of
traffic
around
the
stadium.
So
thank
you.
You
know
thank
you
very
much
for
using
such
a
good
vendor.
That
makes
it
an
orderly
and
pleasant
experience.
A
A
A
A
Being
done,
then
I'll
go
back
to
my
original
premises.
This
will
go
to
finance
for
final
disposition.
They
will
note
that
we
have
disapproved
the
contract
and
they
will
make
the
final
decision
as
to
whether
this
contract
goes
forward
or
not.
But
again
I
just
want
to
say
it's
not
a
reflection
on
the
service
of
this
company.
It's
this
philosophical
difference
that
we
have,
and
mr
forsyth
and
ms
smith
appreciate
you
all
joining
us
this
morning.
A
A
A
F
Yes,
so
a
couple
months
ago
we
talked
about,
I
think
it
was
over
a
million
dollars,
if
not
more
than
that
ferry
and
we
talked
about
having
used
them
for
I
think
50
years,
and
this
contract
apparently
was
previously
80
000
and
we're
adding
200
to
it.
So
it's
not
the
same
one
that
we
approved
just
a
few
months
ago.
So
this
means
we
have
multiple
contracts
with
corn
ferry
and
I'm
trying
to
get
a
handle
on.
F
G
First
contract
was
for
80
000,
and
that
is
our
standard
contract
that
we
have
with
them
to
provide
training
to
any
new
staff
that
we
might
have
and
to
do
any
type
of
consultation
that
we
may
need
any
type
of
assistance
on,
maybe
a
specific
job
review.
At
that
time.
It's
not
80
000
that
we
necessarily
are
spending.
We
have
that
if
we
need
that
again,
we
can't
predict
when
we
might
have
a
vacancy
and
staffing.
So
we
need
that.
F
G
F
C
G
And
we
hope
that
it
does
not
take
seven
years
or
10
years
to
complete
it,
but
it
is
a
review.
It
will
start.
So
if
it
takes
us
three
to
four
years
or
longer,
depending
on
our
staffing,
then
it
might
be
something
when
it
ends
we're
starting
it
immediately.
Right
back
again,
just
depends
on
how
long
the
cycle
is.
It
really
depends
on
my
staffing.
F
And
this
contract
is
for
two
years
and
it
I'm
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
the
job
classification
situation,
because
I
felt
like
we
already
had
something
going
on
with
job
classification
review
and
it
sounds
like
now.
We
don't
and
now
we're
just
adding
it
just
now,
even
though
I
think
the
request
for
that
was
what
a
year
ago
in
the
budget
a
year
ago,
we
were
going
to
do
a
study,
or
is
it
just
this
year?
We've
just
started
talking
about
job
classification
studies.
G
G
To
have
them,
yes,
it's
to
have
them
for
if
we
have
turnover
and
staffing
they
come
in
and
train
because
our
new
staff,
because
it
is
their
methodology-
we
cannot
do
that.
It
needs
to
come
from
the
company,
so
they
come
in
and
train
all
staff.
They
do
updated
training
as
needed
if
their
methodology
changes.
So
they
will.
You
know,
provide
staff
current
staff
additional
training
if
needed
they
also,
if
we
are,
they
can
review
jobs
as
well.
If
we
need
them
to,
and
they
can
also
provide
consultation
when
we
need
it.
F
G
F
F
This
is
a
two-year
contract
and
I,
what
is
the
deadline
where
we're
supposed
to
have
this
work
done
under
the
july
7
2022
law
I
felt
like
it
was
supposed
to
be
done
faster
than
that,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
a
two
or
you
said
even
could
be
through
a
four-year
process,
is
gonna
get
us
what
we
need
by
whatever
our
deadline
is
there.
G
Is
not
a
deadline
for
the
job
class
review
project?
It's
when
we
get
it
completed.
This
200
000
is
for
corn
ferry
to
review
300
jobs
and
complete
that
for
us.
G
G
F
G
F
Mr
chairman,
I'm
kind
of
stuck
I've
got
a
lot
of
issues
going
on
here.
It's
hard
to
unwind
all
this,
but
seems
like
to
me
we're
already
modifying
a
contract.
So
if
we
put
the
deadline
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
they
needed
an
extra
three
months,
we
would
be
back
in
december
talking
about
that.
But
it
looks
like
to
me
this
is
kind
of
a
amend
one
contract.
F
That's
for
one
thing
with
something:
that's
totally
different
and
then
it
looks
like
it
should
have
just
been
a
sole
source,
no
bid
contract
just
about
instead
of
a
modification
on
something
different
and
then
now
we've
got
this
two-year
timeline
and
we're
kind
of
in
a
hurry
for
this
information
and
nothing's
on
paper.
That's
gonna
actually
push
these
people
get
this
stuff
done.
So
those
are
my
concerns
with
this.
I
wanted
this
project
to
get
done.
I'm
just
not
sure
this
contract's
been
very
well
done,
for
it.
A
G
A
G
A
So
I
guess
I
share
senator
southwar's
concern
is
I.
I
would
think
that
if
this
isn't
kind
of
an
annual
maintenance
situation
plus
any
additional
add-on
that,
why
isn't
that
covered
under
the
original
scope
of
the
contract-
and
we
have
a
one
price,
why
do
we
have
to
keep
adding
additional
cost
to
this.
G
A
This
point
I'm
making
is
this
is
not
a
new
relationship
we
have
with
these
folks,
it's
been
in
place
for
years
and,
if
they're
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
the
program,
I
think
that
would
be
a
fixed
cost
every
year.
If
there's
some
scope
work
that
needs
to
go
above
and
beyond
that,
I
would
think
probably
that
would
warrant
a
separate
contract
rather
than
an
addition.
A
Exactly
that's
the
point
I'm
making
they
own
this
methodology,
so
we're
held
captive
by
them
and
anytime.
We
need
an
adjustment
to
it.
Then
they're
going
to
send
a
new
amendment
to
this
contract.
We
don't
know
whether
the
price
is
reasonable
or
not
no
likelihood
it
is
I'm
not
casting
any
dispersion
on
you
folks,
but
how
do
we
know
we're
getting
value
for
what
we're
spending?
I
think
that's
the
thrust
of
this
concern.
G
I
guess
I
don't.
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
I
don't
share
that
be
shared
that
same
concern
in
that
you
know
it's
their
methodology.
G
A
I
would
have
to
disagree
with
you
and
the
fact
that
they
are
recognized
as
a
leader
in
the
field.
I
don't
think
gives
them
exclusivity
in
this
whole
process.
You
know
the
same
thing
could
be
said
for
folks
like
ibm
back
in
the
80s.
They
were
the
ones
that
drove
information
technology.
That's
not
the
case
today
and
we
got
a
system
that
was
in
place
since
1977..
A
Is
every
year
we're
going
to
get
a
contract
saying
we're
going
to
spend
x
number
of
dollars
with
this
firm
and
then
have
to
come
back
two
or
three
times
during
the
course
of
a
biennium
and
say
well,
we've
got
to
add
additional
costs
to
this
is
really
doesn't
give
me
a
sense
of
security
that
this
is
a
product
that
we
need
to
stay
married
to.
F
F
Can
you
say
who
the
vendors
are
that
service,
the
other
16
states?
I
cannot
do
you
know
if
it's
more
than
one
I
don't
know
have
we
ever
done
an
rfp
to
check,
not
that
I'm
aware
of
okay,
so
we've
never
done
an
rfp
for
the
services.
Other
states
are
using
other
services
and
we
have
no
idea
what
kind
of
a
deal
we're
getting
or
not
getting,
because
we
married
this
50
years
ago
and
we
can't
figure
out
how
to
get
out
of
it.
F
Okay,
well,
I'm
still,
hopefully,
unfortunately,
I
don't
have
a
few
months
worth
of
searching
on
my
phone,
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
our
corn
ferry
contract
was
a
couple
months
ago,
but
these
these
contracts
concern
me.
We've
got
no
bid
contracts
and
we
know
that
not
all
states
are
using
this,
so
that
is
fairly
decent
evidence
to
me
that
there
are
other
choices
and
that's
issue.
One
issue
two
is
I
don't.
I
still
can't
handle
the
agency
creating
contracts
with
timelines
that
don't
reflect
our
needs
or
desires.
F
Anything
that's
gonna
get
enforced
is
gonna
need
to
be
in
writing
and
if
we
don't
have
something
in
here
that
says
this
job
better,
get
together
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
there's
nothing
keep
making
sure
they
do
that
and
I
think
that's
my
first
main
issue.
Besides
the
fact
that
I've
had
problems
with
the
last
contract
with
this
group-
and
we
haven't-
even
I
don't
even
touch
the
california
issue-
I
just
think
the
agency
itself
that
that's
really
my
issue
here.
F
The
agency
tells
us
we're
going
to
get
this
done
in
six
months
and-
and
I
don't
see
that
in
this
contract
and
everything
that
gets
said
needs
to
be
written
in
writing-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
get
an
amendment
on
this
thing-
a
re-amendment
to
get
the
timeline
added
here
or
what?
Because
right
now
we're
just
all
hoping
and
it's
not
in
writing.
So
it's
not
gonna
be
enforceable.
F
F
A
H
A
F
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
ask
probably
what
I
ask
every
time:
what
is
85
000
paying
for.
B
B
F
B
F
F
B
Well,
actually,
you
know
it's
the
12.5
in
the
next
two
years
we
are
working
closely
with
dlg
and
trying
to
form
a
process
whereby
counties
can.
B
F
F
I
feel
like
they're
gonna,
probably
be
extinct
next
year
anyway,
and
it
seems
like
to
me
we
don't
want
them
spending
all
of
this
money
at
a
very
ill-timed
point
and
of
course,
the
general
assembly,
you
know,
puts
money
in
places,
but
I'm
just
not
clear
on
how
much
money
is
needed
around
the
state.
It's
almost
like.
We
never
have
enough,
and
then
we
turn
around.
F
We
have
more
than
we
need
so
and
then
counties
are
going
into
debt
literally
trying
to
pay
for
things
that
I
guess
to
eke
out
that
they
can't
or
they
don't
want
to
or
what
not
eek
out
through
this
november
cycle.
So
it
seems
like
a
very
ill-timed
contract
to
me.
Just
concerns
me
on
a
number
of
levels.
That's
why
I
would
move
to
disapprove.
A
A
A
I
A
A
A
Appreciate
you,
gentlemen,
joining
us
this
morning.
None
of
you
are
from
california.
Are
you
good
we're
off
to
a
good
start
so
far,.
C
Only
been
there
one
time
and
I
didn't
like
it
actually
did.
A
A
I
do
appreciate
the
the
explanation
here,
but
I
don't
know
who
authored
this,
but
it
says
the
reason
we're
seeing
these
contracts
retroactively
is
that
there
are
multiple
factors
that
presented
or
prevented
the
contracts
not
being
placed
by
the
7-1
start
date:
purchasing
manager,
not
monitoring
the
work
performance
of
the
staff,
protein
manager,
lacking
management
skills
needed
to
delegate
the
workload
and
distribute
fairly
to
staff
telecommute
schedule
for
the
branch
not
conducive
to
workloads
quite
kindly
kind
of
a
damning
indictment
of
the
folks
who
have
these
responsibilities.
E
Senator
meredith
I'll
speak
to
that.
We
came
into
the
contract
season,
understaffed
we
hired
new
staff
and
we're
in
the
middle
of
training
them.
We
have
an
overwhelming
amount
of
contracts
with
the
department
and
then
our
manager
left.
We
also
did
not
have
a
director
of
the
fiscal
management
team
because
they
had
left
as
well,
so
due
to
the
shortage
of
staff,
the
overmounting
work,
the
merger
added
to
it,
because
there
was
additional
work
going
into
the
the
closeout.
A
E
A
E
Agreement,
it's
just
the
agreement.
We
have
in
place.
E
The
the
agreement
and
policy
that
we
have
in
place
is
is
what
stands,
and
it's
it's,
not
something
that
that
I
can
speak
to.
E
E
I
cannot
answer
that
question.
I'm
not
high
enough
on
the
food
chain
for
that
mm-hmm.
E
Yeah
I
just
wanna,
I
just
wanna
echo,
the
anger,
I
mean
it
says
your
words
girl's
words,
not
ours,
telecommuting
schedule
for
the
brands
not
conducive
to
workloads.
We
need
a
fix.
Your
word's,
not
ours,
we're
just
here,
saying
back
what
you
said.
I
think
it's
time
to
we
got
to
address
that
you're
going
to
have
to
tighten
down
your
telecommuting
or
you're
going
to
have
to
end
the
telecommuting.
F
Thank
you
when
people
have
projects
to
do
as
a
matter
of
course,
my
understanding
is,
my
experience
has
been
telling
community
can
work
really
well,
but
it
sounds
like
to
me:
you
guys
had
a
major
influx
of
new
people
and
training
that
needed
to
happen
and
training
is
not
work
as
a
matter
of
course.
So
are
there
going
to
be
policies
in
the
cabinet
or
in
your
division?
F
Can
you
float
those
up
to
the
cabinet
whoever's
making
these
rules
that
when
new
people
are
coming
in
and
it's
inconvenient,
but
supervisors
are
going
to
have
to
be
there
to
train
the
new
people?
It's
you
can't
show
people
how
new
things
work
and
they're,
not
there
and
you're
not
there.
So
is
there
going
to
be
any
kind
of
communications
or
have
there
already
been
communications
on
training
doesn't
go
under
the
same
telecommuting
times
as
regular
people
that
have
their
workflows
already
established.
E
Currently,
the
policy
right
now
with
new
employees
that
they
are
to
work
five
days
a
week
for
the
first
three
months
and
then
be
evaluated
at
that
time.
Whether
or
not
they
can
move
to.
Maybe
a
lesser
amount
of
time
in
office
are.
F
E
F
A
F
It's
out
there,
I'm
not
saying
anything,
anyone
doesn't
know,
but
it
needs
to
get
out
there.
This
can't
keep
going
on.
They
need
to
spend
their
three
months,
actually
learning
their
job
skills,
and
that
is
probably
going
to
mean
supervisor
is
going
to
be
there
five
days
a
week
with
them,
because
what's
the
point
of
a
new
person
sitting
by
themselves
in
an
office,
you
know
teams,
meetings,
work
to
a
degree.
F
Once
you
have
a
communication-
and
you
know
their
tone
and
their
personality,
but
in
order
to
really
read
somebody
you're
gonna
have
to
have
a
face
to
face.
So
that's
my
input,
I
would
say,
get
the
cabinet
aware
of
it
and
get
these
things
straightened
out.
This
might
not
have
happened
as
much
if
everyone
was
on
the
ball
ahead
of
time,
knowing
this
was
coming
instead
of
letting
it
happen
later
and
then
go
whoops.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
The
emergency
declaration
was
was
canceled
months
and
months
ago.
I
share
the
same
concern.
I
just
want
to
know
how
far
behind
we
are.
You
know
I'm
hearing
here
that
that
the
new
people
come
in
and
they
have
to
work
five
days
a
week
for
how
many
months.
E
No
sir,
those
are
not
my
words:
they're
they're
there
as
needed.
What
does
that.
I
I
E
I
I
just
I
just
want
you
to
know
we're
we're
dealing
with
with
the
people
of
the
commonwealth,
we're
dealing
with
their
money,
and
you
will
hear
me
say
that
over
and
over
and
over
and
we
have
supervisors
who
are
being
paid
and
they're
getting
to
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
they
need
to
be
in
to
train
new
people
that
they
know
very
little
about,
and
those
new
people
know
very
little
about
the
system.
That's
very
concerning
to
me
it's
very
concerning
to
me,
especially
when
we're
using
someone
else's
money.
I
I
I
I
It
is
not
free,
it
is
costing
our
taxpayers
a
lot
of
money
and
they're
sitting
there
asking
us
to
help
be
more
efficient
in
the
distribution
of
their
tax
dollars
and
we're
sitting
here
saying
the
system,
people
don't
understand
the
system
or
the
system's
there
and
we've
got
to
we've,
got
to
get
everybody
else
to
buy
into
creating
a
more
efficient
system.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
we're
we're
just
simply
asking
the
questions,
so
we
can
better
understand
how
things
work
so
we'll
have
more
intelligent
questions
to
ask
in
the
future
understood.
A
I
hope
you
understand
why
we're
concerned
about
this,
because
someone
didn't
do
their
job.
We
can't
do
our
job
and
the
reason
I
have
this
version
of
retroactively
proven
contracts.
Is
it
used
to
be
almost
epidemic
for
this
committee
several
years
ago,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
second
nature
again
that
well,
if
we
can't
meet
deadlines,
we'll
just
ask
for
a
directive
approval.
A
We
take
our
responsibilities
very
seriously
here
that
we're
spending
the
the
dollars
of
the
commonwealth
wisely,
and
we
have
no
way
of
substantiating
that
today.
These
contracts
wouldn't
place
july
1st,
so
I'm
assuming
the
work's
ongoing.
So
we're
kind
of
married
to
this.
But
I
tell
people
that
when
we
approve
a
contract,
it's
like
the
good
housekeeping
seal
of
approval.
You
know
it's
good.
You
know
it's
being
spent
wisely
on
behalf
of
the
commonwealth
and
we
can't
do
this
today,
but
you
know
this
explanation
that
we
received.
A
It
truly
is
damning
of
the
cabinet
and
I
would
be
embarrassed
by
it
not
so
much
for
you
guys,
senator
douglas
said.
You
know,
he's
not
pointing
finger
anybody
I
will.
The
buck
has
to
stop
someplace
and
I
think
we
know
where
that
buck
stops
and
that's
not
in
the
best
interest
of
our
citizens.
I
think
it's
a
poor
reflection
on
our
commonwealth
and
I
wonder
how
bad
this
problem
is
throughout
state
government,
but
we
need
to
see
some
change.
People
need
to
get
back
to
work.
A
E
A
A
I
I
We've
got
to
stop
rubber
staffing
contracts
just
because
they
just
because
they've
been
around
so
not
in
an
intimidating
way,
but
I
certainly
want
want
to
let
all
those
who
come
through
here
now
know
that
we
are
taking
a
serious
look
at
all
the
contracts
and
for
those
contracts
that
people
can't
really
explain.
A
A
I
mean
no,
it's
going
to
be
symbolic.
No,
but
I
appreciate
you
taking
copious
notes
while
we're
having
this
discussion
one
I
would
appreciate
you
would
add
to
your
list.
There
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
asked
of
folks
if
they
know
they're
going
to
be
a
situation
where
there's
a
retroactive
request,
you
let
us
know
that
as
soon
as
possible,
rather
than
you
know
two
or
three
days
before
the
committee.
There
are
always
extenuating
circumstances
and
we're
willing
to
accept
those,
and
we
have
on
occasion.
A
But
if,
if
you
let
us
know
beforehand,
it
kind
of
softens
this
discussion
and
we
can
make
a
more
appropriate
determination,
then
as
to
whether
it's
appropriate
or
not.
Obviously,
you
got
some
epic
failures
there
that
none
of
you
guys
are
responsible
for,
but
again,
if
someone
just
let
us
know
beforehand
that
we've
got
a
retroactive
contract
coming.
A
C
A
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
karen
worth:
I'm
the
director
in
the
division
of
budgets
and
financial
management
excuse.
J
Good
morning,
members
of
the
government
contract
review
committee
chairman
meredith
pleasure
to
be
before
you
all
this
morning
to
discuss
these
comments.
J
Can
you
pull
me
closer
to
you
again
good
morning,
members
of
the
government
contract
review
committee-
chairman
meredith,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
once
again
to
discuss
these
contracts
and
help
carry
out
the
work
here
in
the
commonwealth
to
better
educate
all
647
000
of
our
kids.
K
C
A
Clear
we're
rolling
now
for
benefit
of
our
committee
center
southworth
and
are
the
only
ones
that
have
pulled
these
contracts
in
my
issue,
for
most
of
these
contracts
are
the
same
and
central
southworth.
If
I
could,
I
think,
41
42
43
44
45,
46,
47,
48,
50,
51
52,
all
the
way
through
65
67.
A
A
A
A
C
They
are
not,
no,
they
are,
they
are
for
multiple
school
districts
across
the
commonwealth.
C
A
The
people
that
you
have
selected
here,
because
we
have
a
name
for
each
person
under
each
contract.
How
are
they
selected.
D
D
Everyone
that
is
working
as
an
education,
recovery,
specialist
or
education
recovery
leader
has
experience
as
a
classroom
teacher
as
an
instructional
coach
as
a
principal,
an
assistant,
principal
instructional
supervisor,
assistant,
superintendent
or
superintendent.
So
they
go
through
a
rigorous
interview
process
with
face-to-face
interviews,
as
well
as
written
written
pieces
of
the
interview
process.
D
I
have
a
team
of
people
that
that
do
the
interview
process,
but
I
approve
all
I'll
be
hires.
Okay,.
D
Sure
so,
there's
actually
two
different
jobs
that
we're
looking
at
in
the
contracts.
One
is
an
education
recovery
specialist,
the
other
is
an
education
recovery
leader.
So
an
education
and
recovery
specialist
is
working
directly
with
the
classroom
teacher
to
build
sustainable
systems
to
help
improve
student
achievement
and
the
education
recovery
leader
is
working
with
the
school
principal
and
his
or
her
leadership
team
to
build
sustainable
systems.
D
D
Has
it
set
up
where
the
department
will
put
out
a
call
for
vendors
and
that
the
kentucky
board
of
education
will
approve
the
vendors
and
then
each
csi
school
has
to
identify
the
vendor
that
they
would
like
to
work
with,
and
so
the
department
is
considered
a
vendor
and
we
offer
those
services.
D
D
And
approximately
1300
schools
across
the
state
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
but
currently
we
have
51.
the
way
those
are
identified
is
by
the
federal
government.
It's
the
bottom,
five
percent
of
schools
across
the
state.
So
in
october,
once
the
new
test
scores
are
released
from
the
spring
assessment
of
22,
we'll
be
identifying
identifying
new
schools.
A
Have
we
been
able
to
move
the
needle
any.
D
D
It's
always
around
50
51,
because
it's
the
bottom
five
percent,
so
you
know
we're
always
going
to
be
right
around
that
number.
This
year
we
have
if
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
this
year.
If
you
don't
exit
and
we're
identifying
new
schools,
it
could
be
more,
but
typically
the
bottom
five
percent,
always
around
50.
A
A
D
A
What's
the
I
know,
this
is
a
very
broad
question,
but
what's
the
the
factors
in
the
determination
of
the
csi
score
and
scoring?
D
A
F
Yes,
mr
chairman,
on
the
csi
schools,
I've
identified
the
41
through
48
53
through
60
and
63
through
67
and
number
84.
I'll,
ask
a
question
on
those
and
then
I'll
move
to.
J
J
F
Can
clear
this
out
this
bottom
five
percent?
I
think
I
heard
you
say
it
was
federally
required
to
be
the
five
percent
number
yes
ma'am,
and
so
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
do
we
have
any
supports
other
than
the
regular
tier
2
tier
3
instructional
supports
in
the
schools,
but
is
there
any
kind
of
comprehensive
support
for
let's
say
the
other
45
or
up
to,
however,
money?
F
Because
I
feel,
like
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
numbers
in
the
last
year
so
where
I
think
70
percent
of
our
students
are
under
proficient
in
science,
I
think
50
or
so
percent
we're
not
up
to
par
in
their
literacy.
Those
type
of
numbers
are
quite
concerning
when
we've
got
comprehensive
supports
for
the
bottom
five,
but
then
I've
got
45
percent
left
that
I
still
haven't
touched
and
obviously
there's
some
interventions
there.
But
you
know,
after
so
many
years
of
hearing
that
the
bar
has
been
raised.
F
I'm
wondering
how
long
are
we
gonna
be
before
we
get
there
and
these
kids
are
gonna,
be
graduated
by
then
not
reading.
D
So
my
office
also
provides
support
to
schools
that
are
considered
tsi,
schools
which
are
targeted
in
targeted
schools,
and
basically,
they
have
a
percentage
of
their
population
that
is
defined
by
the
federal
government
as
scoring
as
poorly
as
the
bottom
five
percent.
So
I
also
provide
supports
to
those
schools
as
well.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
do
I
need
to
read
those
numbers
off
that
I'm
going
to
move
to
approve.
I
A
A
Number
49,
the
agreement
description
says,
provide
funds
to
help
educators
in
the
commonwealth,
understand
and
implement
these
terms
through
strategic
planning,
presentations,
school
district
support
visits
and
more.
This
position
will
oversee
elementary
secondary
school
emergency
relief
funds
related
to
de
ib.
The
program
coordinator
for
comprehensive
school
counseling,
two
additional
staff
members,
will
endeavor
in
this
work.
A
J
Yes
in
defining
what
those
terms
are
right?
Deib
refers
to
diversity,
equity
inclusion
and
belonging
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
The
kentucky
department
of
education
takes
a
broad
look
in
terms
of
looking
at
student
and
staff
diversity.
It
covers
gender,
it
covers
socio-economic
status,
language
spoken
at
home;
it
also
covers
sexual
orientation.
J
Many
times
when
we
look
at
diversity,
we
talk
about
black
and
white,
but
we
look
at
every
individual
aspect
of
every
student.
Equity
simply
means
giving
our
students
what
they
need.
We
know
all
students
don't
necessarily
come
to
school
equal
at
the
starting
line.
Some
students
may
need
additional
support
over
and
beyond
others.
Inclusion
simply
is
in
involving
all
of
our
students
and
our
staff
into
the
school
system
and
helping
them
feel
accepted
here
in
kentucky
with
the
kentucky
department
of
education,
we
were
one
of
the
first
to
include
belonging.
J
We
can
talk
about
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
Ultimately,
we
want
to
get
to
belonging
where
all
of
our
students
and
all
of
our
staff
who
walk
into
our
building
have
a
sense
of
belonging,
as
the
chief
as
the
deputy
commissioner
and
chief
equity
officer,
it's
my
pleasure
to
work
alongside
our
director
of
diversity,
equity
inclusion
and
belonging
and
I'll.
Ask
dr
sweeney
briefly.
If
there's
anything,
he
would
like
to
add,
as
we
continue
to
make
a
more
welcoming
environment
for
all
of
our
kids
here
in
the
commonwealth.
Dr
sweeney,
yes,.
K
Good
morning
again,
with
with
our
deputy
commissioner
and
chief
equity
officer's
vision,
we
are
a
national
leader
in
this
work.
We
have
the
equity
playbook
that
we
discussed
several
months
ago
with
you.
We've
got
modules
that
we
are
creating.
We've
we're
creating
safe
spaces
opportunities
for
safe
spaces
in
different
in
every
single
region
of
our
commonwealth.
We
are
doing
so
much
to
make
sure
that
our
students
and
their
families,
whether
they
are
historically
underrepresented
or
other,
feel
that
sense
of
belonging
that
dr
woods
tucker
just
mentioned.
J
And-
and
I
will
say
this,
chair
meredith
and
members
of
the
government
contract
review
committee-
I
know
several
months
ago-
all
these
months
and
days
do
run
together.
We
discussed
this
and
you
all
did
approve
this,
but
I
do
appreciate
any
time
to
engage
in
conversations
with
you
all
to
discuss
what
services
and
what
opportunities
we're
providing
to
all
students-
and
we
do
mean
each
student
in
the
commonwealth.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
expanding
this
role
and
providing
more
services
to
our
students
and,
of
course,
keeping
our
community
members
and
families
involved.
J
J
K
Yes,
yes,
so
I'll
give
you
I'll
give
you
my
favorite
quote.
Nothing
about
us
without
us
is
for
us
right.
So
we
talk
about
the
importance
of
student
voice
and
co-ownership
co-owned
school
cultures,
classrooms
and
environments
right.
K
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
we
make
sure
that
our
educators
have
a
good
understanding
of
cultural
proficiency
and
that
they
are
finding
unique
ways
to
allow
our
students
to
tell
their
stories
and
to
share
their
backgrounds
and
make
sure
that
they
do
feel
this
sense
of
ownership
in
their
own
school
and
their
own
learning.
A
K
Yeah,
okay,
so
our
students
should
all
be
able
to
see.
I
think
we
could
all
agree
that
our
students
should
be
able
to
see
themselves
in
the
curriculum
right,
so
I
should
be
able
to
see
myself
reflected
in
the
curriculum
as
a
protagonist
right.
So
somebody
with
my
lived
experience,
somebody
from
my
background.
I
should
also
be
able
to
learn
from
other
people
that
don't
share
my
lived
experience
in
the
curriculum
right,
so
we
all.
We
know
that
our
students
are
going
out
and
graduating
and
going
out
into
this
diverse
world.
J
And
that's
a
broad
range
of
learners,
because
many
times
when
we
talk
about
this
work
or
states
find
themselves
embattled
in
conversations
about
this.
Thank
god
that
we
don't
have
that
issue
here
in
kentucky
it's
very,
very
defined.
The
learner
is
very
defined.
You
will
see
a
plethora
of
opportunities
provided
for
students
whose
english,
whose
english,
who
are
english
learners,
whereas
english
is
not
the
language
spoken
at
home,
but
they
are
growing
in
english,
as
well
as
students
who
are
part
of
the
governor's
scholars
program
under
commissioner
glass.
J
We've
expanded
the
number
of
campuses
for
our
governor's
scholars
program
again
elevating
that
student
voice.
We
know
many
of
our
students
in
the
governor's
scholars
program
are
very
high.
Achievers
we've
also
opened
up
a
second
campus
for
our
students
who
are
inclined
in
arts.
We've
expanded
the
governor's
arts
scholars
arts
program,
and
I
certainly
want
to
thank
dr
sweeney
and
our
folks
that
we'll
talk
about
later
in
our
department
for
helping
that
come
to
fruition
again
meeting
the
unique
needs
of
a
broad
spectrum
of
learners.
A
J
C
A
Well,
it
goes
back
to
my
original
question.
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
particularly
from
the
primary
grade
level
as
to
what
exercise
they
have
to
be
engaged
in
to
accomplish
this,
like
gender
identity.
You
know
if
this
is
for
second
grade
and
third
graders
and
I've
got
a
granddaughter
who's.
Second
grade.
J
J
Again,
I
don't
want
this
to
be
equated
with
gender
identity.
It's
far
more
broader
than
that
or
critical
race
theory,
for
which
you've
seen
me
here.
10
times
and
we've
never
talked
about
critical
race
theory.
That's
not
something!
That's
happening
here
in
your
k-12
kentucky
schools.
We
certainly
know
at
that
particular
age,
kindergarteners
that
you're
referring
to
first
grade.
Second
graders,
that's
not
an
appropriate
conversation
that
I
see
our
classroom
teachers
and
administrators
having,
but
I
do
see
them
having
conversations
about
respect,
respect
for
others.
K
J
J
So
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
can
go
about
and
do
this
work
respectfully
here
in
kentucky.
A
I
appreciate
you
doing,
but
I
guess
one
of
my
concerns
and
my
wife
was
the
second
grade
teacher
for
32
years
and
watching
her
career
over
those
32
years.
I
saw
more
and
more
demands
place
on
our
educators
and
and
one
beyond
traditional
education.
You
know,
reading
writing,
arithmetic
and
one
of
the
complaints
I'd
hear
constantly.
Is
that
how
we're
going
to
find
time
to
teach
all
this,
and
if
we're
not
sticking
with
the
basics,
reading,
writing,
arithmetic
and
now
we're
interjecting
these
additional
exercises
into
the
school
day.
A
How
do
we
time
find
time
to
do
that?
You
know.
I
had
a
constituent
recently
tell
me
a
very
educated
man
that
he
and
his
son
were
involved
in
the
business
transaction
and
they
each
had
to
sign
a
document,
a
contract,
so
to
speak.
He
signed
and
handed
over
to
his
son.
He
said
son
sign
this
and
son.
Just
looked
at
him,
he
said
sign
the
contract.
He
said
I
don't
know
how.
A
Now
he
just
graduated
from
high
school,
and
he
said
they
didn't
teach
us
that
I
don't
know
anything,
that's
more
elementary
than
learning
to
sign
your
signature
online.
But
if
we're
failing
in
that
regard,
do
we
really
have
time
for
these
additional
responsibilities
that
we're
interjecting
into
the
school
system.
J
This
is-
and
I
certainly
respect
what
you're
saying
in
the
thoughts
of
the
the
distinguished
government
contract
review
committee
members
we're
not
taking
time
out
of
teachers,
schedules
and
interjecting
something
new
into
the
curriculum.
We
do
have
professional
development
days
we
do
have
when
students
are
not
there,
we
do
have
summer
training,
we
do
have
other
opportunities
to
help
our
teachers
and
our
administrators
and
support
staff.
Many
times
we
forget
about
our
support
staff
really
understand
this
whole
business
of
diversity,
equity,
inclusion
and
belonging.
But
this
is
not
something
extra.
J
This
is
not
an
add-on.
We
do
this
during
professional
development
time.
We
do
this
when
teachers
and
administrators
do
have
time
to
engage
in
professional
development.
I
did
give
each
of
you
some
a
research
paper
behind
some
of
this
work,
we're
doing
especially
with
the
playbook.
I
do
appreciate
you
all
approving
the
playbook.
The
last
time
I
was
here
and
what
it
really
gets
at
is
professional
development
and
real-time
training.
J
Those
types
of
things
have
the
biggest
impact
on
the
instructional
program
and
in
changing
instructional
practices,
and
it
should
be
done
in
real
time
and
we're
able
to
do
that
in
real
time,
but
not
taken
away
from
classroom
instruction
from
the
three
hours.
A
K
So
again,
as
dr
woods,
tucker
mentioned,
that
sense
of
belonging
is
very
important,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
pride
ourselves
in
is
creating
psychologically
safe
spaces
and
teaching
our
educators.
How
to
create
the
same
when
we
create
psychologically
safe
spaces.
Our
kids
are
more
apt
to
learn,
so
we're
not
doing
what
you
just
described
is
not
a
psychologically
safe
environment,
right,
you're
kind
of
separating
some
students
from
others
and
that's
not
a
psychologically
safe
space
right.
K
I
I
do
think
thank
you,
mr
chair,
in
in
the
interest
of
time
I'll
I'll
try
to
go
over
these.
If
you
will
bear
with
me,
because
I
have
more
than
one
point
to
make-
is
that
okay,
mr
chair?
Yes,
please,
okay,
we
started
out
talking
about
comprehensive
support
and
improvement.
I
That
is
for
other
things.
That
includes
other
things,
and
my
concern
is
when
I
grew
up
and
I
went
to
school,
comprehensive
to
me
meant
encompassing
everything
now,
I'm
learning
that
that's
not
true,
because
if
that
were
true,
we
wouldn't
need
someone
else
to
teach
something
different
and
that's
a
concern
that
I
have
sitting
here
on
this
committee,
and
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out.
First
of
all,
then
I
want
to
move
to
our
schools.
My
concern
is:
what
are
our
schools
for?
I
I
Now
we
talk
about
culture
and
we
throw
that.
We
throw
that
word
around
a
lot
as
if
everybody
knows
what
that
means,
and
I'm
here
to
tell
you
they
don't
because
my
third
day
in
the
senate
I
got
I
got
up.
I
stood
up
as
a
as
a
supposedly
uninformed
freshman
senator
and
I
read
the
definition
of
culture
and
I
think
that
we
all
would
be
served
well
by
going
back
and
and
relearning
that
definition.
I
We
talked
about
a
sense
of
belonging
since
the
belongings
began
to
begin
at
home
and
somehow
we're
trying
to
make
our
schools
that
venue,
which
teaches
our
kids
a
sense
of
belonging
and
then
they
go
home
and
they're
not
fed,
and
we
know
this.
We
all
know
this.
We
all
know
that
we
can
look
at
each
other
and
say
if
this
is
not
getting
cultivated
at
home.
I
I
Again,
I
think
sometimes
we're
we're
we're,
I
think,
sometimes
we're
spending
money
in
the
wrong
areas
and
we're
trying
to
raise
our
kids
in
the
school
and
finally,
mr
chair,
if
I
may,
my
overall
concern
is
that
is,
is
the
question
of?
Are
we
teaching
our
children
what
they
need,
or
are
we
teaching
them?
I
Those
kids
aren't
thinking
about
that
they're
thinking
about
tootsie
rolls
they're
thinking
about
hot
fudge,
sundaes
they're
thinking
about
watching
something
on
tv,
but
we're
refocusing
them
because
well
they're,
actually
not
smart
enough
to
know
what
they
really
want.
That's
that's
sort
of
what
I
get
sometimes
when
I
hear
some
of
these
things
and-
and
I
just
want-
I
just
want
to
share
my
concern
as
a
senator
who
has
three
children.
I
A
Thank
you
senator
douglas
senator
southworth.
If
you
have
questions
regarding
this
contract
as
well.
F
F
If
you
talk
to
these
folks,
there
are
many
that
are
offended
every
time
they
see
this
word
latinx,
because
latinx
is
not
latin
at
all.
It's
a
creature
of
something
outside
of
their
culture
that
they
do
not
even
know
what
it
is
and
we're
pushing
it
on
them.
That's
that's
how
they
feel
and
how
are
we,
including
the
latinos
and
the
latinas
in
here.
J
That
task
force
that
we
are
creating
will
include
people
of
all
different
ethnic
and
cultural
backgrounds
and
certainly
senator
southworks.
We
do
appreciate
your
input
regarding
the
term
latinx.
We'll
certainly
keep
keep
that
in
mind
and
as
we
continue
again
as
we
continue
to
broaden
our
horizons,
and
I
certainly
respect
the
comments
that
senator
douglas
made
but
to
each
member
of
this
great
committee.
J
Some
of
the
things
that
you
raised
is
actually
in
kentucky
state
statute
in
the
safety
and
resiliency
act,
and
it
pretty
much
says
we
need
to
conduct
an
assessment.
Schools
need
to
conduct
an
assessment
of
school
climate,
including,
but
not
limited
to
inclusiveness
and
respect
for
diversity,
and
so
we
are
also
keeping
in
with
law.
We
certainly
understand
the
concerns
that
you
have,
and
one
of
the
things
I
always
say
is
that
always
assume
positive
intent
and
having
a
growth
mindset
as
we
learn
to
respect
each
other's
cultures
and
each
other's
differences.
J
We
have
a
plethora
of
research.
That's
out
there
senator
douglas
that
says
that
students
perform
better
when
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
their
cultural
background
and
how
not
only
how
we're
different,
but
also
being
able
to
express
how
we
are
alike,
something
that
dr
sweeney
mentioned
earlier.
F
Thank
you.
My
next
question
goes
to
really
the
kind
of
core
of
this
whole
thing
and
our
pink
49,
mr
chairman,
does
mention
it,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
bring
up
any
others
that
go
along
with
this.
F
In
the
group,
we've
got
49
number
70
and
number
71
49
we're
talking
about
helping
educators,
number
70,
we're
going
to
work
on
personalized
use
of
digital
tool,
digital
tools
and
then
in
number
71
we're
doing
six.
Video
trainings
and
the
video
trainings
are
empowering
educators.
F
My
question
is:
when
you
talk
about
reaching
down
to
every
student.
So
far,
I
haven't
really
seen
a
lot
of
student
outreach.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
pd
and
the
reality
in
pde
world
is
particularly
on
number
71.
Mostly
I'm
extra
concerned,
these
pd
movie,
video
series
or
whatnot
can
be
watched
by
teachers.
F
F
Why
are
we
spending
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
this
state
to
create
videos
that
I
can
pretty
well
say
if
the
teachers
are
interested
in
they've
already
watched
something
similar
on
their
own
time?
Just
like
they
buy
a
classroom
materials
at
our
own
pockets,
which
I
don't
think
we
should
do
but
they're
doing
I
mean
I
think
they
should
do
it
since
we're
not,
but
you
know
it
they're
spending.
If
you
have
a
really
good
teacher.
F
In
my
experience
when
I
was
teaching,
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
the
days
I
really
wanted
to
prepare
preparing
learning
I've
got
a
problem
kid
I
got
gotta
figure
out.
How
am
I
gonna
get
through
to
this
kid?
That's
the
life
of
a
teacher.
If
they're
not
burned
down
with
all
this
other
stuff,
but
what
I'm
hearing
from
teachers
is
they
want
us
to
watch
these
pd
videos,
so
we
hit
play.
F
So
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
is
why
don't
we
put
this
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
you
know
something
that
is
more
educator
driven
versus
educator
mandated?
You
know
if,
if
teachers
need
an
extra
aid
in
their
classroom
one
day
a
week
to
help
kids
that
are
struggling,
we
could
we
could
cover
that.
We
could
cover
several
of
those
for
several
classrooms
for
this
dollar
amount.
F
J
Yeah
I'll
be
very
brief,
and
then
I
know
dr
sweeney
wants
to
make
some
comments
here.
Senator
southworth
members
of
the
government
contract
review
committee,
senator
southworth,
mentioned
several
contract
numbers,
49,
70
and
71..
Again.
Those
are
contracts
that
this
committee
has
previously
approved
of
individuals.
J
Now,
in
regards
to
in
regards
to
the
modules
there,
there
aren't
any
other
modules
out
there
with
this
specific
nature
that
would
allow
our
teachers,
our
administrators,
even
our
pre-service
teachers.
Again
we
work
with
our
partners
in
in
higher
ed,
particularly
our
teacher
education
programs.
These
modules
will
be
made
available
for
them
for
free
as
a
part
of
spending
federal
dollars.
J
Speaking
of
spending
federal
dollars
and
mrs
worth
you
can
correct
me,
we
can't
use
these
particular
dollars
to
hire
staff
so
with
the
when
the
dollars
run
out
in
a
couple
years,
the
staff
will
go
so
we
do
know
again.
I
go
back
to
the
research
documents
I
put
on
your
on
your
desk.
It
talks
about
the
efficacy
of
professional
development
done
done
properly.
J
K
Right
so
this
these
modules
are
educator.
Driven
videos
will
be
taken
in
kentucky
schools
of
educators
performing
some
of
these
tasks
like
restorative
practices.
This
will
get
down
to
the
student
level
as
well.
One
of
the
terms
you
used
was
problem
kid,
so
we
don't
have
problem
kids
in
kentucky.
We
have
kids
that
have
trauma
and
need
support,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
our
our
office
seeks
to
train
our
educators
on
is.
We
do
not
have
problem
kids,
we
have
kids
with
trauma
and
that
need
help.
F
J
Respectfully
sentence
senator
southwork-
I
will
disagree
with
you
on
that.
I
do
respect
your
concern,
but
I
would
disagree
with
you
again.
We
are
looking
at
the
actions
that
we're
taking
in
working
with
our
teachers
and
working
with
our
folks
at
the
ed
co-op
and
working
with
our
superintendents
and
principals.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
will
be
joining
the
commissioner's
superintendent's
webcast
that
brings
in
all
superintendents
in
the
state.
J
You
know
to
talk
about
these
items
that
we
have
here
to
be
approved
and
supported
by
the
governor
government
contract
review
committee.
We
do
know
again.
I
go
back
to
the
research
paper
that
we've
given
you.
We
do
know
next
to
a
teacher
in
the
classroom.
J
The
highest
effect
on
student
achievement
will
be
to
ensure
that
teachers
have
the
resource
and
principles
have
the
resources,
high
quality,
instructional
resources
and
tools.
I've
talked
about
that
here
before
and
they
have
high
levels
of
coaching,
and
so
this
is
one
of
our
coaching
tools
to
impact
positively
impact
instructional
practices
in
the
classroom,
which
will
raise
student
achievement
and
will
continue,
as
dr
foster
mentioned,
during
her
presentation,
to
get
more
and
more
of
our
of
our
schools.
Out
of
csi
out
of
continuous
improvement.
F
Well,
a
final
couple
of
comments
you
mentioned
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
get
rid
of
all
of
this
in
two
years
when
the
federal
funds
moved
out,
but
a
few
months
ago
you
indicated
when
I
asked
originally,
I
think,
the
first
day
that
we
met
you-
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here
all
the
time
and
always
giving
a
great
presentation,
but
that
you
hope
this
was
that
this
was
not
intended
to
be
a
short-lived
thing.
F
This
is
intended
to
be
baked
into
the
process
from
here
on
out
and
we
just
don't
have
a
funding
source
in
two
years.
So
that
certainly
is
you
know
another
underlying
issue
that
has
always
underlined
all
of
the
issues
that
I've
wondered
about
on
all
these
contracts.
But,
finally,
with
what
you
mentioned
about
having
all
of
the
various
coaching
and
different
things
like
that
sounds
like
we
can't
hire
staff,
but
we
can
hire
coaches
to
help
our
staff
and
I'm
all
for
helping
relieve
our
staff
some
way
or
another
teaching
staffs.
F
It's
more
layers
in
layers
of
middle
management,
layers
of
administration,
layers,
layers,
layers,
education
system
and
our
law
has
created
so
many
layers
on
our
poor
teachers
trying
to
just
go
through
the
checklist
of
everything
they
have
to
do,
and
I
would
really
like
to
free
up
our
teachers
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
these
children
more
easily
and
more
effectively
in
more
like
more
layers
and
more
programs
and
videos,
and
all
this
other
stuff,
I
don't
think,
helps,
and
I
there's
a
ton
of
things
I
could
sit
here
and
talk
about,
but
that's
really
not
what
I'm
going
to
spend
my
time
on
today.
F
I
just
don't
like
these
contracts.
I
don't
like
the
short
termness
of
them.
I
don't
like
the
focus.
It
seems
like
the
federal
funds
are
driving
the
train
rather
than
you
know
the
kids
and
that's
really
the
whole
crux
of
the
whole
thing.
Thank
you
for
being
here,
though,
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
always
give
us
a
very
detailed
explanation
and
thank
you,
dr
sweeney,
for
coming,
because
we've
talked
about
you
a
lot,
but
now
we
see
you.
Yes.
Thank
you.
F
F
Well,
hang
on
a
second,
I
didn't
have
51
on
the
list.
I
I
I
don't
mind
if
you
want
to
amend
that
and
make
that
motion.
That's
fine,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
51
is.
A
C
Yes,
and
or
yes-
and
I'd
also
like
to
explain
my
vote,
I
want
to
echo
the
sentiment
of
senator
douglas.
I
think
the
intent
as
well
of
this
was
well
intended,
but
I
believe
we've
lost
the
ability
to
ask
our
students
and
our
teachers.
What
do
you
need
to
create
a
better
educational
atmosphere?
That's
my
biggest
concern
about
this.
C
My
wife's
been
a
public
school
teacher
for
over
25
years
and
the
biggest
complaint
that
I've
heard
her
reiterate
throughout
her
career
is
that
all
the
burdensome
type
of
programs
they
put
on
the
teachers
instead
of
really
asking
them.
What
do
you
need
to
to
reach
out
and
teach
and
educate
your
students
and,
more
specifically,
what
do
they
need
to
teach
reading,
writing,
arithmetic
or
the
subject
matter
that
they
were
hired
to
teach?
And
so
with
that,
I
vote
to
disapprove.
C
I
vote
no
on
disapproving
this.
These
contracts-
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
all-
I
represent
a
district
that
has
two
outstanding
public
school
systems.
We
are
also
by
any
metric.
You
want
to
use
two
of
the
most
diverse
systems
in
the
commonwealth,
warren
county,
public
schools,
bowling
green,
independent
schools.
Over
30
languages
are
spoken
in
our
schools.
C
We
have
some
very
wealthy
students.
We
have
some
very
poor
students
and
I
appreciate
then
we
have
people
who
come
in
at
different
levels,
all
over
the
place
and
move
in
and
out
of
the
system
at
all
times.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
your
work
to
meet
our
students
where
they
are,
which
I
believe
is
the
key
to
hitting
all
of
these
basics
that
my
colleagues
have
pointed
out
are
extremely
important,
but
as
an
educator
myself,
I
know
that
you
have
to
meet
people
where
they
are
before
they
can
learn,
and
thank
you
for
your
work.
A
Aye,
let's
vote
on.
Thank
him
six,
one
six
eyes,
one!
No!
The
motion
to
disapprove
the
contracts
is
approved
and
again
always
appreciate
you
also
in
attendance,
and
it's
evident
that
we
have
a
philosophical
difference
and
I
hope,
as
we
continue
to
have
dialogue
with
each
other
in
discussions,
that
we
can
find
that
middle
ground
that
we
all
need
to
work
on.
But
I
do
appreciate
you
being
here
and
sharing
your
thoughts
with
us
and
in
your
opinions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
items
on
the
pool
list
with
education,
labor
cabinet
is
number
99
on
the
routine
moa
list.
Mr.
A
F
F
A
A
A
Thank
you
again,
gentlemen.
Senator
southwortz
has
questions.
F
Bless
your
heart
and
realize
you
were
representing
both
this
is
the
kentucky
chamber.
Foundation
is
apparently
our
vendor.
It
looks
like
I
want
to
get
a
better
handle
on
the
relationship,
because
I'm
sitting
over
here
trying
to
swirl
it
around
in
my
head.
I
know
how
this
stuff
works
behind
the
curtains
of
closed
doors
or
whatnot,
so
the
kentucky
chamber
is
got
this
foundation,
which
supposedly
probably
is
a
501c3.
H
The
the
commonwealth
benefits
from
a
talent
pipeline
management
system
that
the
chamber
which,
through
a
national
organization
of
chambers
across
the
country,
have
developed
this
program
that
does
outreach
to
employers
to
provide
statistics,
data
on
the
types
of
potential
jobs
that
that
an
employer
may
have
within
a
certain
area.
So
the
kentucky
chamber
has
a
program
similar
to
that
that
the
commonwealth
uses
that
data.
F
The
other
one
as
well,
but
are
you
saying
that
ky
stats
does
not
independently
collect
that
information
that
the
chamber
foundation
collects
it
and
we
contract
to
adopt
what
they've
collected
so
that
we
shortcut
our
time
on
ky
sets
that.
H
F
H
So
this
is
where
the
chamber
uses
their
relationships
with
employers
to
forecast
data
that
may
not
be
required,
reporting
from
an
employer
it's
to
build
a
cooperative
amongst
those
industries,
so
that
there's
kind
of
greater
greater
collaboration,
greater
cooperation
not
just
from
the
employer
side,
but
also
from
the
governmental
side,
so
that
we
all
are
on
the
same
page
about
what
we
need,
where
we're
going,
not
only
for
those
employers
but
for
our
economy
in
terms
of
jobs.
H
H
Program,
this
is
going
into
the
third
year
of
this
program.
We
established
this
two
years
ago
and,
like
I
said,
we're
going
in
for
another
another
year.
We've
used
the
workforce,
innovation
and
opportunity
at
the
statewide
reserve
fund.
Part
of
my
role
with
the
cabin
is
to
administer
that
fund
and
that
that
funding
is
specific
for
workforce
development
activities
on
a
statewide
level.
F
F
My
only
final
question
is
you
mentioned
non-profit
and
that's
my
concern
here.
You
know,
we
all
know
what
you
know:
shelters
and
shells.
All
look
like
in
the
chamber
is
a
large
lobbying
presence
here,
and
so,
where
I
get
concern
is
when
we
have
different
groups
feeding
each
other
and
the
one.
We
can't
take
money
out
of
feeds
it
to
someone
else,
and
then
we
take
money
there
or
we
give
money.
H
So
this
again,
this
program
is,
is
a
an
establishment
of
the
chambers
foundation,
so
they
have
two
separate
arms.
H
This
is
a
program
that
the
national
chamber
institute,
and
then
our
local
chamber
has
has
done
that
through
their
non-profit
arm.
I
absolutely
understand
your
your
point
in
terms
of
they,
they
clearly
have
clientele
that
are
participating
and
have
funding
and
resources
that
could
potentially
provide
for
this,
and
that
is
actually
something
the
wioa
statewide
reserve
is
intended
as
seed
money,
not
a
long-term
sustainable
source
of
funding.
H
F
H
H
E
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
in
the
days
of
some
of
the
lowest
workforce
participation
we've
had
in
my
adult
lifetime,
how
important
the
work
that
the
chamber
and
the
chamber
foundation
are
doing
here.
I've
been
involved
in
this,
not
with
this
specific
project,
but
I've
spoken
they've.
They
put
significant
effort
working
in
the
derby
industry
and
coming
forward
working
on
equine
and
labor
participation.
What
do
we
do?
How
do
we
improve
the
workforce?
How
do
we
get
it
out
there
that
work,
they're
doing
is
absolutely
invaluable.
E
If
we
didn't
have
the
businesses
throughout
kentucky
and
we
didn't
have
those
jobs
out
there
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
be
sitting
up
here
in
these
seats,
because
the
whole
thing
would
be
spiraling
downhill,
and
this
is
a
first
line
of
defense
to
making
sure
that
when
cmwa
is
trying
to
hire
250
new
people
with
their
expansion,
they're
right
up
there
and
they're
trying
to
get
those
jobs
and
and
find
it
in
there-
and
I
just
can't
say
enough
about
what
they're
doing
to
keep
the
business
of
kentucky
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
H
And
representative,
as
a
note,
the
equine
industry
is
actually
a
unique
aspect
of
this
particular
program
too.
Not
too
many
states
actually
have
an
industry
as
large
as
ours
when
it
comes
to
to
equestrian
equine
management.
So
that
is
also
a
piece
of
this
program
that
has
been
expanded
on
that's
beyond
what
even
the
national
model
provides
for.
E
C
A
A
A
F
Thank
you.
I
was
looking
at
this
and
it
looks
like
there's
a
couple
of
different
things
here,
but
one
is
seems
like
a
focus
on
education
to
underserved
communities
and
the
other.
Is
this
pre-k
curriculum?
Can
you
speak
on
why
the
office
of
energy
policy
is
engaged
in
education
materials
only
for
those
two
groups.
D
F
D
Yeah,
this
money
does
not
funnel
back
to
kde
this
money.
We
spend
approximately
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
on
the
pre-k
education
piece
and
we
spend
approximately
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
on
the
on
the
energy
efficiency
workshops
in
the
central
kentucky
community.
F
D
Yes,
any
any
teacher
within
the
service
territory,
I
can
sign
up
for
police
projects.
If,
if
I
look
back
at
the
two
or
three
years
that
we've
been
funding
this,
it's
it's
various
schools
and
some
of
them
teach
different
aspects
of
the
pre-k
curriculum.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
a
final
comment.
Sometimes
I
don't
know
what
to
do
with
some
of
these
things.
You
know
it
it
it's
nice
to
have
guest
speakers
coming
to
your
preschool,
but
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
that's
necessarily
a
sixty
thousand
dollar
priority
of
state
funds,
and
if
that's,
we
might
not
be
doing
this
right.
I
don't
exactly
know
what
to
do
with
contracts
like
this.
I
just
want
to
register
my
concern.
We're
kind
of
piecemeal
around
here.
A
Oh
I'm!
No
seriously!
I
share
your
concern,
but
you
know
if
60
000
is
out
there
that
a
school
district
wants
to
take
advantage
of
it
and
seize
a
role
for
it,
then
god
it's
available
to
them
and
we
can't
make
that
decision.
For
them.
It
is
federal
funds,
but
it
it
boggles
my
mind,
but
it's
the
best
answer.
I
can
give
you.
You
know
questions
comments,
not
entertaining
a
motion
to
approve.
E
A
I
I
The
other
thing
I
would
I
would
echo
what
you
said
chairman
meredith
about
you
know
it's
federal
money,
that's
being
provided,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
probably
our
some
of
our
legislators
at
the
federal
level
might
want
to
listen
to
you
at
times.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
F
A
No
motion
carries
contract
is
approved.
Final
item
on
the
agenda
are
consideration
of
three
exemption
requests
by
the
energy
and
environmental
cabinet,
and
these
are
rather
routine.
It's
because
expenses
go
beyond
the
biennium
and
they
need
approval
for
that
purpose.
So
I'd
entertain
a
motion
on
all
three
requests.
C
A
K
B
A
Aye
motion
carries
before
we
adjourn
first
thanks,
everyone
for
being
here
participating
today,
but
our
next
meeting
date
put
an
encounter
tuesday
september
13th
at
nine.