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A
And
as
a
reminder,
if
you
do
have
your
phone,
please
put
it
on
silent,
so
it
won't
disrupt
our
conversation.
I
would
appreciate
it
very
much
which
I
probably
need
to
do
myself,
which
I'm
going
to
do
that
right
now,
yep,
it
was
not
on
anyway.
This
is
the
first
meeting
for
the
interim
of
the
general
government,
Finance
personnel
and
public
retirement.
A
D
E
A
Thank
you,
Jennifer.
Okay,
on
the
first
on
the
agenda,
we
have
the
public
protection
cabinet.
If
folks
can
come
up,
I
think
it's
Mr,
Woburn
and
Mr
Watson
I
hope
that
pronounced
it
correctly.
We'll
talk
about
the
East
Kentucky
flood
Relief
Fund,
as
well
as
the
Western
Kentucky
tornado,
Relief
Fund.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
go
ahead
and
make
sure
your
mic
is
thrown
green,
introduce
yourselves
and
you
have
the
floor.
H
Go
ahead
very
much
for
having
us
today,
we
are
from
the
public
protection
cabinet,
which
is,
which
is
the
agency
that
administers
the
team,
Western
Kentucky,
tornado,
Relief
Fund,
and
the
team
Eastern
Kentucky
flood
Relief
Fund.
These
are
the
funds
of
private
donations
to
assist
those
impacted
by
those
disasters.
So
corporate
donations,
private
individual
checks,
little
bake
sales,
all
of
those
things
were
donations
to
our
funds.
These
funds
go
to
assist
individuals
impacted
by
these
disasters.
H
H
It's
important
to
note,
too,
that
now
we
have
committed
all
of
our
funding
that
we
have
either
been
dispersed,
or
it's
committed
to
one
of
our
programs.
We
do
report
monthly
in
accordance
with
Senate
Bill
99
to
the
a
r
committee,
so
those
those
reports
are
available
in
much
more
detail.
So,
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
just
going
to
hit
some
of
the
high
points
of
the
donations
and
disbursements
we've
made
but
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
all
have
so,
starting
with
the
team
Western
Kentucky
tornado,
Relief
Fund.
H
We
then
provided
funding
for
insured
homeowners
and
renters.
That
was
about
6
100
people
received
that
funding
and
about
7.7
million
dollars
went
to
those
individuals
again
for
those
initial
living
expenses.
H
We
heard
quite
a
bit
that
insurance
wasn't
covering
all
the
cost
of
repairs.
Fema
was
not
sufficient
to
cover
repairs
to
homes
or
the
impact
of
the
storm,
so
a
second
distribution
was
made
to
those
individuals
which
was
just
shy
of
10
000
people
in
the
amount
of
about
9.9
million
dollars,
just
shy
of
just
shy
of
10
000..
H
So
the
other
programs
that
we
have
under
the
team,
Western
Kentucky
tornado,
Relief
Fund,
included
the
grain
assistance
program.
The
grain
elevator
in
Grace
County
was
destroyed
as
a
result
of
the
tornado.
Those
Farmers
came
to
us.
Local
officials
came
to
us
and
asked
if
we
could
help
offset
some
of
the
expenses
for
now
having
to
transport
grain.
So
we
did
have
a
program
to
do
that
which
covered
about
4.4
million
dollars
to
those
farmers.
H
The
largest
need
we
have
heard
in
talking
with
local
officials
volunteer
organizations.
Long-Term
recovery
groups
is
the
need
for
housing.
Homes
were
destroyed,
homes
were
severely
damaged,
so
we
in
cooperation
with
now
six
non-profits
have
entered
into
agreements
to
build
or
repair
homes.
We've
committed
18.6
million
dollars.
Currently
to
that
program,
13.9
has
been
dispersed
so
far,
and
we've
just
provided
funding
for
a
105th
home,
it's
105
homes.
H
Those
would
be
things
again
home
repairs
that
they
were
had
been
uninsured
for
underinsured
for
we're,
seeing
quite
honestly,
a
lot
of
Need
for
gutters
additional
Windows
additional
flooring.
We
see
that
a
lot
in
the
home
repair
category.
We
also
cover
vehicle
repairs,
essential
Furniture.
Sometimes
there
was
enough
funding
to
replace
the
home,
but
they'd
lost
all
their
appliances
or
their
Furniture.
So
those
are
the
types
of
unmet
needs
that
we
fund.
We
committed.
A
G
The
legal
basis,
so
we
have
provided
feedback
both
to
the
legislature
and
to
the
state
treasurer
about
the
inherent
legal
basis
that
rest
within
KRS
chapter
12
assignments
that
the
governor
is
capable
of
making
of
his
cabinet
secretaries.
G
When
we
provided
that
information
to
the
legislature,
you
all
have
now
codified
our
program
guidelines
and
processes
through
Senate
Bill
99
has
legally
formalized
that
basis,
but
the
Western
Kentucky
fund
when
it
started
it
started
with
an
emergency
declaration
and
an
emergency
regulation
which
has
subsequently
been
extended.
Eastern
Kentucky
fund
was
set
up
marginally
differently,
but
again
vesting
on
those
powers
that
are
vested
in
the
governor,
giving
direction
to
his
cabinet
secretaries
in
order
to
take
in
money
for
the
Commonwealth
and
provide
expenditures
for
public
purpose,
who.
G
Wouldn't
so
I
the
governor
would
have
issued
the
EO
we
have
provided
in
information
in
response
to
several
legislative
inquiries,
both
committees
and
individual
legislators.
Okay,.
A
A
So
the
how
to
draw,
how
did
you,
you
said,
is
an
EO
in
terms
of
regulations
and
so
forth.
I'm
still
a
little
bit
concerned
about
how
y'all
went
through
that
and
then
allocated
the
Appropriations
on
the
money
in
that
without
oversight
from
the
general
assembly.
Could
you
explain
that.
A
When
you
establish
this
and
start
accepting
funds,
let
me
let
me
back
up
how
did
y'all
selected
the
phone?
How
did
y'all
raise
the
money
in
order
to
do
that
was?
Was
the
administration
task
to
go
out
there
and
generate
the
money,
or
was
this
through
other
individuals,
other
corporations
to
help
generate
the
money
so.
G
I
think
the
primary
source
of
our
donations
were
online
donations.
State
websites,
including
the
legislature's
websites,
carried
a
banner
to
donate
to
the
respective
funds,
First
Eastern
and
then
move
to
the
Western
Kentucky
funds.
The
vast
majority
in
terms
of
number
of
donations
would
have
come
in
through
that
online
Link
in
terms
of
I
can
only
speak
for
what
public
protections
has
done.
We
have
not
solely
solicited
any
donations.
We've
been
contacted
by
individuals
seeking
to
donate,
but
to
my
knowledge,
no
one
in
the
administration
test.
Anyone
with
going
out
and
explicitly
raising
any
funds.
A
What
was
the
criteria
for
disbursing
the
funds
prior
to
money
being
transferred
to
Senate
Bill?
The
account
that's
Senate,
Bill
99s
established
so.
H
Action
cabinet
we
made
recommendations
and-
and
we
spoke
with
all
of
our
agencies
involved
in
disaster
relief-
to
get
to
get
the
program
available.
According
really,
we
got
a
lot
of
input
from
local
governments.
You
know
just
of
what
the
need
is
from
Volunteers
in
the
area
that
are
active
in
disaster,
long-term
recovery
groups,
different
individuals
contacted
us,
and
so
then
we
would
investigate
the
need
and
have
discussions
to
to
verify
those
and
created
the
programs
and
so
their
program
guidelines
for
each
program
where
we
made
those
disbursements.
Okay,.
A
G
Well,
I,
don't
so
I
would
agree
that
we
didn't
have
weighted
criteria.
I
do
think.
However,
we
were
applying
criteria
and
feedback.
We
got
from
local
officials,
probably
the
most
significant
interaction
we've
had
with
local
entities
are
through
the
long-term
recovery
groups
and
Ms
Watson
explained
how
those
monies
have
been
allocated,
but
basically
we
engaged
in
an
interactive
process
there
with
the
local
entities
telling
us.
You
know
what
information,
what
information
can
you
give
us
to
help
assess?
What
needs
are
not
being
met
here?
So
we've
we've
been
trying
to
address
I.
G
Think
you
know.
When
you
have
a
disaster,
you
have
a
whole
different
pool
of
resources
that
come
in
different
non-profits
who
have
different
interests,
different
areas,
they're
they're,
trying
to
address
these
funds,
we've
attempted
to
use
to
be
kind
of
the
Gap
fillers
where
are
where
are
needs
coming
in
where
there
isn't
a
readily
identifiable
source
of
money.
I.
Think
a
great
example
of
that
is
the
grain
assistance
program.
That
was
a
direct
request
from
local
officials
in
Western,
Kentucky,
saying:
hey
these
Farmers
can't
afford
to
get
their
grain.
G
They
you
used
to
be
able
to
drive
it
to
Mayfield.
Now
they
actually
have
to
drive
it
to
the
river,
as
my
understanding
is
where
that's
and
there's
significant
Transportation
costs
associated
with
that.
So
how
can
we
come
up
with
a
way
to
equitably
distribute
funds
to
Farmers
who've
been
negatively
impacted
without
taking
any
administrative
costs?
G
Thankfully
The
Granary
in
Mayfield,
and
it's
unfortunately
not
going
to
be
rebuilt,
but
could
not
have
been
any
more
helpful
with
the
information
they
provide
us.
Here's,
the
farmers
that
use
this
here's
the
volume
that
we
expect
to
see
from
them
from
year
to
year.
Here's
a
way
to
get
in
touch
with
them.
Let
us
help
you
distribute
information,
so
this
money
is
getting
to
the
right
people,
so
that
is
a
specific
example
of
one
program
and
how
it
came
to
evolve.
G
I
would
candidly
tell
you
I,
don't
think,
we've
been
approached
by
a
program
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
support.
We
found
a
way
to
work
with
everybody,
who's
attempted
to
approaches
to
get
money,
but
in
terms
of
weighted
criteria.
No,
there
are
not
weighted
criteria
in
terms
of
taking
feedback
from
people
on
the
ground
about
what
is
actually
needed.
I
do
think
we
have
engaged
in
that
process.
Thank.
A
H
A
Budget
accounts,
okay
and
then
last
question:
I
will
open
it
up.
I'll
see
you
sooner
so
just
hold
tight.
What?
A
Why
did
y'all
transfer
the
money
from
the
relief
fund
to
to
the
safe
fund,
y'all
transfer
money?
Why
did.
A
That's
my
understanding
that
the
money
was
transferred
over
to
the
to
the
to
the
fund
that
we
set
up
under
Senate
Bill
99.
H
Oh
so
so
that
would
be
having
those
that
the
private
donation
funds
available,
but
they
did
not
go
to
the
safe
fund.
They
are
in
a
disaster
fund
that,
as
a
result,
an
on
budget
account
as
a
result
of
Senate
bill.
99.
A
Words,
could
you
have
the
do?
You
have
the
eastern
and
western,
and
you
also
have
you
have
the
the
new
you
have
the
the
we
actually
got
the
western
eastern
and
you
have
those
funds
that
transferred
over
so
is
there
another?
Is
there
another
fund
that
that
remained.
I
A
Thanks
all
right,
I
think
Senator
Mills.
You
have
a
question.
J
I
do
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Just
we
had
a
couple
questions
about
the
particular
that
affected
my
district
were
the
checks.
The
distributions
that
came
out
and
I
was
trying
to
take
some
notes
down.
So
there
was
a
the
first
I
guess,
batch
of
checks
that
came
out
were
to
uninsured.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay
and
then
another
batch
came
out
to
insured
and
then
was
there?
A
third
batch
for
unmet
insured
needs
is
that.
H
J
Second,
payment,
so
I
guess
one
of
my
questions.
I
know
particularly
two
individuals
that
kind
of
stopped
me
on
the
street,
and
this
happened
in
a
new
County
that
I
just
picked
up
in
redistricting.
So
a
lot
of
people
don't
have
my
phone
numbers
and
things
like
that,
but
they
were
asking
questions
through
the
County
judge
and
magistrates
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
they
were
just
really
confused
about
the
checks.
Did
they
have
any
kind
of
explanation
in
the
like
a
a
pay?
H
They
did,
there
was
a
letter
that
went
with
the
checks
explaining
where
the
money
was
from
and
and
why
it
was
being
distributed.
There
was
I
will
say
there
was
some
confusion,
because
there
was
a
notation
of
second
supplemental
check
on
the
memo
line
and
some
people,
but
didn't
get
the
first
checks.
It
was
the
comments
that
we
received.
We
did
talk
to
those
people
and
try
to
figure
out
should
they
have
received
it.
Were
they
eligible
for
the
first
check.
Where
did
the
first
check
go.
J
H
K
J
H
H
We
verify
their
insurance
claim
with
the
insurer,
so
we'll
reach
out
to
the
insurer
verify
the
claim.
If
they're
eligible,
we
will
we'll
issue
the
check
if,
if
they
still
have
unmet
needs
because
they
received
those
checks
and
insurance
just
simply
didn't
cover
all
of
their
needs,
we
usually
have
them
go
to
their
long-term
recovery
groups,
see
if
there's
funding
there
or
can
refer
them
to
Commonwealth
has
a
case
management
program
as
well.
So
there's
still
some
ways.
I
also
know
American,
Red
Cross
is
still
in
the
area.
H
L
J
Yeah,
so
that
was
we've
seen,
you
know
those
new
houses
starting
to
pop
up,
and
they
they
do
look
good,
where
the
insurance
companies
open
to
sharing
all
the
information
that
you
ask
them.
H
For
absolutely
they
were,
they
were
very
helpful.
We
did
two
data
requests
with
them,
one
to
Simply,
identify
where
the
damage
was
and
then
one
to
get
information
to
verify
these
payments,
and
they
were
they
provided
that
information
and
continue
to
help
us
respond
to
those
inquiries.
A
Thank
you
Senator.
Sorry,
representative,
bratcher.
H
We
we
did
create
eligibility
programs
for
all
of
the
the
programs
that
I
described,
and
so
when
so
for
the
uninsured
program
for
money
that
those
direct
payments
given
to
uninsured
homeowners
and
renters.
That
was
based
upon
whether
someone
received
assistance
from
FEMA.
So
we
worked
with
FEMA
to
verify
those
who
received
assistance
for
the
insured
homeowners.
They
were
information
that
we
received
from
the
insurance
companies
if
they
filed
a
a
claim
or
not.
H
We
verify
that
and
issue
the
funding
from
the
for
the
grain
program
that
was
based
upon
deliveries
to
that
grain
elevator,
and
we
worked
with
the
grain
elevator
for
the
that
information
for
the
long-term
recovery
groups.
They
do
their
own
case
management.
We
do
not.
We
we
don't
have
administrative
costs
come
out
of
this
fund,
so
we
rely
on
the
long-term
recovery
groups
to
provide
that.
H
H
They're
eligible
and
each
program
has
different
guidelines
so
and
some
are
case
managed
by
you
know:
the
homes
go
through.
The
non-profit,
Partners
you'd
have
to
be
eligible
through,
for
example,
Habitat
for
Humanity
as
one
of
our
partners
right.
E
E
H
I
mean
I
would
respectfully
disagree.
We
did
speak
with
them.
We
in
that.
So
in
the
in
East,
the
Eastern
Kentucky
flood
Relief
Fund.
We
have
some
pretty
limited
funds
with
a
lot
of
needs,
so
we
did
meet
to.
We
asked
them
for
specific
information
about
the
homes.
Were
they
total
rebuilds
that
were
needed,
were
they?
Repairs
were
primarily
focused
on
rebuilds,
although
we
did
give
funding
for
foundation
to
Foundation
for
Appalachia
Kentucky
for
a
matching
Grant,
we
referred,
you
know,
we
said,
give
us
that
case
information.
H
We
are
happy
to
work
with
you
and
connect
you
with
one
of
our
partners
to
assist
in
those
in
building
homes,
for
those
veterans,
and
that's
where
that
conversation
ended.
We
didn't
get
that
feedback,
but
again
we're
I
mean
our
goal
is
providing
homes
for
individuals
who
were
impacted
by
the
flood.
So
if,
if
there's.
E
Well,
it
was,
it
was
35,
National,
Guard
members
whose
whose
houses
were
destroyed,
and
so-
and
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
questions,
and
they
said
they
can't
get
a
hold
of
anybody.
I've
got
names
here
that
they've
tried
to
contact.
E
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
you
know
I
like
to
stop
early,
but
I
get
too
lazy
to
stop.
So
the
quote:
Lincoln
one
last
question:
the
thousand
dollars
that
you
sent
out
and
they
were
they
were
wrongfully
sent
out
right.
I
mean
they
did
you
get
that
those
back
is
that
the
thing.
H
Is
that
so?
So
there
is
those
that
second
group
of
checks
that
went
to
uninsured
and
insured
homeowners
and
renters.
Yes,
we
did.
We
did
get
some
of
those
back
for
multiple
reasons.
H
L
L
Miss
Watson
and
Mr
Wahlberg
I
want
to
make
sure
I
I
got
this
right,
we're
talking
about
monies
that
were
donated
out
of
the
goodness
of
people's
hearts
kindness.
You
know,
you
know
following
the
tornado
disaster
in
December
of
of
2021
and
then
the
floods
in
the
spring
of
last
year.
The
these
are
private
monies
that
that
people,
you
know
gave
you
know
to
help
with
the
flood
relief
victims.
Is
that
the
money
we're
talking
about
correct.
L
Are
talking
about
public
Appropriations
are?
Are
we
correct,
so
we're
talking
about
private
monies?
I
just
want
to
get
that
fact
clear,
okay
and
then
after
receiving
these
these
privately
donated
funds.
Then
you
and
your
agency-
you
know,
set
up
various
accounts
as
to
how
that
money
was
going
to
be
dispersed.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
now?
Did
this
money
then
go
to
those
individuals
who
were
harmed
or
damaged
or
injured
as
a
result
of
the
devastating
tornadoes
in
Western
Kentucky
or
to
the
floods
in
Eastern
Kentucky?
There.
G
Are
Provisions
in
both
program
guidelines
now,
as
codified
with
Senate
Bill
99,
that
the
money
has
to
directly
go
to
help
individuals
who
were
impacted
so
you
have
to
we
call
it
the
individual
traceability
requirement.
We
have
to
be
able
to
draw
a
line
between
the
money
we
give
to
somebody
and
that
person
being
a
victim
of
one
of
the
respective
disasters.
H
So
I
would
say
that
that
the
the
intent
was
no
right
are
all
of
the
all
of
the
programs
we
established
were
given
to
people
who
were
impacted
by
the
floods
and
the
tornadoes.
And
so
if
there
is
an
example
of
someone,
we're
happy
to
to
research
that,
but
that,
but
all
of
the
money
was
targeted
to
people
who
were
individual
impacted
by
so.
L
We're
not
talking
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
we're
not
talking
about
any
indication
where
any
any
public
monies
was
spent
or
any
privately
donated
funds
were
either
misused
or
misappropriate
to
anyone
who
was
not
harmed
or
damaged
by
the
by
the
toenails
of
flaws.
Correct.
M
M
H
H
You
know
we
went
right
from
the
tornado
to
to
the
floods
so
with
our
intent
of
getting
funding
to
people
as
quickly
as
possible
to
provide
the
most.
You
know
help,
especially
in
the
aftermath.
So
you
know.
Are
there
things
we
could
have
done
better,
I'm
sure
that
there
are
to
sit
here
right
now
and
articulate
those
I'm,
not
sure
I.
Have
that
thought
in
my
mind
yet,
but
but
happy
to
think
through
that?
Obviously
we
want
to
always
improve
and
that's
that's.
H
What
you
want
to
do
with
any
program
is
see
where
you
did
good,
where
you,
where
there
were
missteps
I,
think
if
I
had
to
say
one
thing
right
now,
you
know
we
we
did
work
with
with
FEMA
to
get
some
some
data
in
and
better
understanding
how
that
data
was
was
filtered.
H
Probably
is
something
that
I'd
want
to
to
understand
better
those
data
sources
to
to
make
sure
that
we
were
getting
funding
to
individuals
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
it
had
gone
through
their
filters
because
we
relied
on
a
lot
of
data
sources
for
that
and
probably
want
to
dig
into
that
data.
A
little
bit
more.
G
If
I
were
to
tack
onto
that,
data
has
been
kind
of
the
revelation
of
working
in
disasters.
Public
protection
historically
has
not
had
a
role
in
Disaster
Response,
where
the
the
regulatory
cabinet
so
being
tasked
with
this
one
thing
that
I
have
learned
a
lot
is
the
data
flow
during
disasters
is
both
intermittent
and
that
it'll
come
very
fast
and
then
dry
up,
but
also
it's
evolving
targets.
I
think
if
you
were
to
ask
the
leading
non-profits
in
Eastern
Kentucky
right
now
how
many
homes
were
destroyed
by
the
Eastern
Kentucky
floods.
G
You'd
get
five
different
answers,
there's
just
not
that
consistency
of
data
and
so
I
to
build
on
What
DJ
shared,
which
I
strongly
agree
with,
is
when
you
get
data
from
FEMA.
You
think
that's
probably
pretty
accurate,
but
even
FEMA
would
tell
you
no,
as
the
disaster
evolves
and
we
get
more
information.
Our
response
gets
better.
Now
that
we've
lived
through
a
couple
of
these,
and
hopefully
we
never
have
to
do
anything
on
the
scale
again.
G
N
M
G
Ultimately,
that's
a
decision
that
was
made
that
I
I
was
not
privy
to
that
answer,
but
I
I
have
to
speculate,
I
think
two
things
one.
We
have
been
tasked
with
fund,
Administration
and
other
contexts.
The
legislature
authorized
75
million
dollars
for
non-profits
this
past
session
that
we
did
awards
for
so
we
kind
of
had
that
infrastructure
already
built
and
that
we
have
administered
funds.
M
H
Finance
or
so
somewhere
else,
I
I
do
not
I
I,
don't
have
an
opinion,
I
just
think
in
a
disaster
there
are
so
many
roles,
and
so
many
needs
that
it
was
It
was
kind
of
all
hands
on
deck,
and
this
was
just
an
area
that
we
could
be
of
assistance
and
we
do
have,
as
as
as
our
general
Mr
walburn
said.
You
know
we
do
have
some
experience
in
fund
management.
We
have
some
experience
in
in
databases
and
those
types
of
things
that
help
us
manage
the
funds.
H
A
You're
welcome
Senator,
and
if
you
don't
mind,
we
do
have
a
couple
other
people
on
here.
So
if
you
can
keep
your
questions
short
and
concise,
as
well
as
the
answers
of
short
and
concise,
we
can
get
these
in
here.
So
Senator,
Mays,
Bledsoe.
O
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
both
I'm,
going
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
on
what
I'm
sure
McDale
mentioned
and
I'll
be
very
quick
too
so
I
know
it's
in
in
your
house,
in
your
in
your
cabinet.
How
many,
and
even
though
it's
private
dollars
it
was
managed
by
publicly
funded
employees.
So
I
think
the
oversight
is
still
relevant.
How
many
staff
members
in
your
Academy
are
kind
of
dedicated
to
the
effort
I'm
in
broadly
so.
G
G
Generally,
we
rely
on
administrative
staff,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
not
to
get
I'm
sorry
to
give
a
little
bit
of
a
longer
answer,
but
to
explain
when
a
long-term
Recovery
Group
makes
a
request
for
an
individual
Survivor
to
get
an
award.
They
typically
do
not
provide
any
what
I'll
call
Census
Data
with
that
we
don't
know
a
name.
We
don't
know
an
address
that
way.
G
The
application
is
truly
being
judged
anonymously
on
the
basis
of
need,
not
that
I'm
going
to
know
somebody
in
Western
Kentucky,
but
it
takes
away
that
those
are
processed
by
administrative
staff.
One
administrative
staff
person
primarily
looks
at
those
when
she
has
other
duties
or
other
things
to
do
so.
I've
been
I
would
say
that
probably
10
to
12
employees
across
the
cabinet
touch
this
in
some
way.
G
G
As
we
create
programs
or
as
programs
are
implemented,
we
go
through
training
regimes.
We're
a
relatively
small
cabinet
I
think
we
are
considered
a
small
cabinet
by
state
government
standards
about
600
employees,
and
many
of
them
are
remote,
so
we're
pretty
close
knit
group.
But
yes,
there
is
absolutely
training
for
each
of
the
programs
that
come
through,
including.
O
That
one
right
and
then
are
there
any
other
cabinets
that
were
considered
team
Kentucky
with
the
fund
that
we're
involved.
H
H
We
certainly
keep
the
governor's
office
updated
on
all
of
this,
and
you
know
we,
especially
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
as
we
consider
housing
we're
working
with
both
transportation
and
energy
environment
cabinets
so
there's
a
whole
multi-state
agency
effort
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
and
and
also
kind
of
for
Health
and
Family
Services,
who
has
case
management
again
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
duplicating
benefits.
The
the
needs
are
great
and
the
money
needs
to
be
stretched
as
much
as
possible.
So.
G
In
con,
so
the
first
private
dollar
fund
that
Kentucky
ever
did
was
actually
called
the
team
Kentucky
fund
and
it
was
a
pandemic
response
fund.
So
that
was
the
the
precedent
in
Kentucky.
There
is
precedent
for
both
private
and
public-private
and
truly
public
donations.
The
Boston
Marathon
is
something
that
we've
based
a
lot
of
our
work
on.
That
was
a
significantly
large
fund
that
was
raised
with
public
involvement.
We've
based
a
lot
of
what
we've
done
on
Boston,
so
Boston
is
probably
the
precedent
in
case
nationally
team
Kentucky
fund,
the
pandemic
response.
G
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
and
I
understand.
You've
been
tasked
with
the
Donnie
job
and
something's
never
been
done
before
so.
But
with
that
in
mind,
there's
been
a
number
of
times.
You've
been
asked
who
set
up
these
funds?
How
are
these
accounts
set
up
the
details
of
the
accounts?
I
know
you
can't
set
up
an
account
with
have
out
having
official
documentation.
You
got
to
have
a
federal
ID
number.
You
have
a
you
know:
sustainable
documents
to
for
any
lending
institution
or
any
mortgage.
D
D
The
majority
may
have
been
individual
donations
online
or
whatever
small
amounts,
but
there
have
been
some
substantial
dollars
donated
from
corporations
and
things,
and
if
these
accounts
are
not
set
up
as
a
501
3C
or
whatever,
are
these
companies
going
to
have
problems
when
with
tax
filings
and
everything
either
at
a
state
or
a
federal
level
that
these
funds
will
not
be
deductible.
D
Could
there
warranted
a
some
sort
of
audit
done
and
not
necessarily
an
aqueous
orchid,
sorry
audit,
but
a
learning
curve
so
that
we
we
can
figure
out
what
mistakes
were
made?
Maybe
the
the
small
one
and
nothing
intentional
I
don't
mean
that,
but
so
we
can
learn
for
the
next
one,
so
we'll
be
better
prepared
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
Mr.
F
In
2012
I'm,
going
back,
we
had
a
devastating
tornado,
come
through
my
area,
Menifee
County,
Menifee,
Morgan,
wolf,
some
in
mcgoffin
for
three
years,
I
served
as
a
long-term
recovery
chair
and
worked
with
Habitat
for
Humanity
Red
Cross,
a
lot
of
other
organizations.
The
one
organization
that
gave
us
hardly
any
help
to
our
citizens
was
FEMA.
F
H
Pros
and
cons
to
how
they
responded.
Certainly
so
certainly
there
are
some
individuals
still
that
are
struggling.
What
I
would
say
is
is
I've
talked
to
FEMA,
quite
often
just
to
understand
what
we
could
continue
to
do
to
assist.
My
relationship
with
FEMA
has
and
the
people
I
deal
with
the
the
people
that
handle
housing
needs
the
people
that
handle
some
of
the
data
that
that
we
receive
has
grown
as
we've
worked
together.
I
think
you
can
always
improve.
F
Well
again,
just
really
brief:
I
I
hope
that
it's
been
better
than
what
we
encountered
over
a
decade
ago
and
and
I
and
I
will
say
this.
I
I
want
to
say
that
when
the
governor
actually
called
them
out
when
they
weren't
doing
their
their
job
and
I
actually
told
him
that
I
appreciated
him,
calling
them
out
and
I,
don't
know
how
much
that
helped,
but
I
I,
think
we've.
F
P
It
sounds
like
we
have
these
two
funds
way
back
when
team
Kentucky
funds
created
by
executive
order
based
on
inherent,
not
actual
Authority,
for
which
implementation
of
the
executive
order
would
have
been
more
than
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
time
and
materials
which
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
been
violative
of
budget
language.
P
We
want
to
be
extra
extra,
careful
that
there's
no
bad
flavoring,
given
so
that
when
future
events
happen
and
future
donations
may
be
solicited
or
recommended
that
people
are
willing
to
do
so.
Do
you
have
a
total
of
what
funds
were
expended
prior
to
the
substantial
codification
of
those
executive
orders
in
Senate,
Bill
99.
P
P
P
You
and
what
is
the
timetable
for
that
expenditure?
Okay,
given
that
this
is
an
emergency
type
situation,
we're
trying
to
get
relief
out
to
I
would
hope
that
those
monies
would
be
obligated
if
they've
been
obligated,
30
60
90
days
or
more
just
yesterday.
It
would
be
good
to
get
those
funds
out
in
30
or
60
days,
rather
than
six
or
eight
months.
E
P
Is
there
an
oversight
mechanism
in
either
the
executive
order
or
internal
regulations
to
make
sure
that
the
contributions
by
private
individuals
into
these
relief
funds
are
not
going
out
to
entities
or
contractors
for
which
a
solicitation
may
come
back
from
them
or
donation
might
come
back
to
them
in
a
campaign
or
some
other
route,
not
to
say
any
of
that
may
or
may
not
be
legal
or
ethical?
It's
just
to
avoid
the
impropriety
of
the
appearance
of
something
not
good.
Is
there
some
kind
of
oversight,
mechanism
or
quality
control
mechanism
that
you
have.
G
Foreign,
so
each
of
the
checks,
as
I
talked
about
earlier,
is
subject
to
an
individual
traceability
requirement,
so
the
checks
is
paid
to
the
benefit
of
survive.
John
Smith's
Survivor,
the
payments
that
we're
making
are
really
only
going
to
individuals,
non-profit
organizations
that
are
constructing
the
homes.
In
the
grain
scenario,
the
farm
entity,
I'm
thinking
those
are
the
only
checks
we've
ever
issued
so
in
as
much
as
checks
can
only
be
issued
to
individuals,
non-profits
or
a
farm
program.
That
oversight
mechanism
would
be
in
place.
P
Okay,
so
there's
no
mechanism
after
the
fact
to
make
sure
that
when
contributions
come
back,
political
or
otherwise
from
an
entity
or
someone
who
is
a
primary
stakeholder
in
an
entity,
those
things
not
come
back
to
give
an
appearance
of
an
unethical
or
illegal
trade
back
quid
pro
quo,
just
making
sure
that
we
have
something
under
the
watch
for
it.
Apparently
we
don't
that's
fine.
You
may
want
to
look
at
it
just
to
make
sure
we're
avoiding
that
that
appearance
problem.
P
P
Mostly
a
comment,
an
angle
that
hasn't
been
discussed
yet
today
you
talked
about
internal
to
executive
branch,
about
duplicating
funding
sources
to
make
sure
efficient
use,
which
is
great,
but
that
also
occurs
between
two
branches
of
the
government,
also
so
the
executive
branch
and
the
legislative
branch.
So
when
you've
got
these
type
of
emergencies,
going
on
and
you've
got
legislative
oversight
and
legislative
funding
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
it
would
be
greatly
advantageous
to
kentuckians
for
the
legislative
branch
to
be
wheeled
in
and
consulted
and
talked
to
discussed
with.
P
So
we
have
a
better
idea
of
where
funds
are
going
to
be
going,
what
purposes
they're
going
to
be
used
for
what
federal
monies
may
be
coming
down
to
synergize
with
these
type
funds,
so
that
we
don't
ineffectively
or
inefficiently,
allocate
general
fund
money
that
could
have
been
synergized
in
a
different
way.
So
I
would
just
encourage
it.
I
know
an
emergency
is
an
emergency,
a
forethought
is
difficult
and
you
do
the
best
you
can.
This
is
a
this
is
a
suggestion
for
in
the
future.
P
When
you
do
those
postmortems
and
go
back,
how
could
we
have
done
it
better?
That
would
be
something
I'd
be
glad
to
talk
with
you
about
it
on
the
detail
of
how
that
information
flow
back
and
forth
between
the
two
branches
would
have
been
useful
in
this
particular
instance,
to
the
tune
of
several
tens
of
millions,
if
not
100
million
dollars.
Thank
you.
Mr,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
and
I
have
one
last
question
and
yog
bsqs.
The
chairman
Petrie
remind
me,
since
this
was
established
prior
to
the
money
being
transferred.
Was
there
the
gel
consult
with
the
the
EBC
on
a
visery
pinion
1609
in
terms
of
the
ethics
code
and
how
things
are
transact
and
how
things
are
conducted.
A
G
A
Because
when
you
raise
money
for
charitable
organizations
and
so
forth,
particularly
when
a
government,
you
got
to
be
conscious
of
Ethics
issues
and
so
forth.
So
that's
why
I
bring
that
up
and
it
sounds
like
there
wasn't
any
any
consultation
or
any
consideration
of
that
which
I
understand
so
okay.
A
Q
Up,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
actually
going
to
ask
for
a
written
response
on
this.
If
you
have
a
comment
you
want
to
make,
you're
certainly
welcome
to
but
I'm
interested
in
the
Contracting
process
and
and
the
letting
of
contracts
and
and
the
entire
process
of
how
contractors
were
picked
and
and
the
oversight
on
payments
to
these
contractors.
Q
So
if
you
could,
please,
if
you
could
provide
a
written
response
to
the
committee
just
detailing
that
process,
if
you
would
I,
don't
know
that
there's
any
other
oversight
that
that's
even
discussed
that
issue.
So
this
might
be
for
a
future
conversation.
But
if
you
could
provide
a
written
response
on
how
that
process
is
working,
how
the
oversight
to
make
sure
that
contractors
are
doing
the
work
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
and
being
paid
accordingly,
be.
G
Glad
to
do
that,
one
thing,
I
can
tell
you
just
from
an
oversight
perspective
is
all
of
those
contracts
are
subject
to
the
jurisdiction
of
the
government
contract
Review
Committee.
So
all
contracts
that
have
been
entered
through
these
funds
have
gone
through
that
process,
but
we'll
certainly
supplement
that
with
a
written
answer
and.
Q
A
And
we
have
a
we
need
to
be
out
of
this
room
by
10
30.
In
fact,
probably
around
10
28
allow
another
committee
to
come
in
here,
so
I'm
going
to
be
pressed
for
time,
so
I
like
to
try
to
keep
the
next
presentation
within
15-20
minutes
as
well
as
the
other
one.
So
the
first
we'd
like
to
have
the
finance
Administration
come
up
and
talk
about
the
a
couple
of
construction.
A
Relocation
for
the
Constitutional
offices
and
I
appreciate
your
your
time
and
going
through
this
secretary
and
director
appreciate
your
your
patience
on
going
through
this,
so
sure
yeah.
It's
an
easy
topic.
O
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
we
just
have
a
brief
update.
You
had
asked
for
a
discussion
on
the
process
of
communicating
and
identifying
the
relocation
of
occupants
of
the
state
capitol
during
the
upcoming
Capital
renovation
project.
It's
a
287
million
dollar
project,
260
million
of
which
was
appropriated
in
this
past
budget
session.
Earlier
elements
you
know
had
began
with
the
design
of
the
mechanical
electrical
upgrades
and
exterior
Renovations.
You
see
the
scaffolding
on
the
door
on
the
Dome
architect
and
engineering
firms
were
selected.
I
Eop
is
a
primary
architectural,
firm,
they're
being
assisted
by
preservation,
design,
partnership,
a
specialist
in
historic
building,
Renovations
the
design
of
the
Project's
well
underway.
It's
expected
to
be
completed
by
about
February
of
2024.
The
current
plan
is
to
let
construction
bids
in
the
spring
of
2024
and
for
construction
to
begin
around
June
of
2024..
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
timeline
ahead
of
us.
The
entire
project
is
estimated
to
take
at
least
three
and
a
half
year
to
complete
and
so
I
wanted
to
get.
K
As
the
design
got
underway,
the
finance
and
administration
cabinet
began
preliminary
discussions
earlier
this
year
with
the
current
occupants
of
the
Capitol
building
about
the
process
and
the
timing
of
relocating
during
the
Project's
Construction.
Those
discussions
will
continue,
as
the
construction
plans
are
finalized.
The
finance
and
administration
cabinet
is
examining
relocation
options
that
will
meet
the
space
needs
of
the
building's
occupants,
and
this
will
likely
involve
the
leasing
of
privately
owned
space.
K
I
To
Mr
chairman
and
one
one
item
very
important
to
this
committee
is
that
the
affected
budgets
of
the
Secretary
of
State
Attorney
General,
the
governor's
office
other
occupants
of
the
court
of
justice.
Some
elements
of
the
legislative
branch
will
be
un
held
harmless
by
this.
The
project
account
will
will
absorb
the
cost
of
relocation
and
move
to
to
the
eventual
temporary
space
and
their
Associated
rents.
So
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clear
to
this
committee.
I
Is
that
that
we're
not
imposing
upon
the
next
budget
process,
you
know
requirement
to
add
funding
to
the
Secretary
of
State's
budget
to
accommodate
their
relocation
and
as
the
legislative
branch.
Broadly,
you
know,
the
architectural
firm
has
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
the
finance
Administration
cabinet
and
are
considering
various
options
to
accommodate.
You
know
the
legislative
Branch's
needs,
and
so
with
the
judicial
branch
and
they're
currently
considering
actions
to
accommodate
their
needs
during
the
Project's
construction.
So
we're
available
to
answer
any
questions.
A
One
thing
I
have
talked
to
both
conversation
ag
office
as
well.
Secretary
of
State
and
I
want
to
plead
America
I
do
apologize.
Thank
you,
representative.
Brecher
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
that
the
communication
line
is
is
totally
transparent,
open
to
the
AG
as
well
as
the
Secretary
of
State.
They
have
voiced
some
concerns
that
they're
not
being
fully
disclosed
of
how
things
are
going,
particularly
in
the
ag
office,
in
terms
that
they've
got
to
I
think
they
got
to
take
care
of
through
a
bill.
A
We
pass
on
the
child
support
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
that
they
absorb
all
that
so
they're
really
really
concerned
about
relocation.
Continuing
Service
about
all
this,
so
I
would
strongly
stress
that
you
continue
to
keep
them
alluded.
Let
them
know
what's
going
on,
so
they
can
adjust
their
their
calendar
and
how
they
perform
perform
their
service,
and
so
forth
and
secretary.
You
mentioned
about
leases
and
so
forth
and
I
want.
Is
there
like
a
1024
building,
I,
don't
know
if
I
wrote.
K
Yes,
I
because
I
came
from
the
AG's
office
I
happen
to
know
that
they
do
have
a
secondary
office,
not
that
is
1024.
Capital
Center
Drive,
okay
I
happen
to
know
that
because
of
my
history,
that
not
only
are
they
located
in
the
capital
that
they
have
quite
a
large
presence.
There.
A
K
J
Two
short
questions,
the
first
one
he
started
this
chairman
started
getting
into
the
question:
will
there
be
a
survey
of
any
available
space
before
we
lease
any
new
space
for
these
offices
to
move
to
and
how
would
that
be
taken
care
of?
Yes,.
R
J
And
one
second
question:
since
I
got
Miss
Johnson
in
front
of
us,
has
there
been
a
meeting
yet
with
lrc
to
talk
about
Senate,
Bill
122,
the
management
of
the
parking
and
cleaning
and
maintenance
of
these?
These
spaces
that
we're
in
has
that
meeting
occurred,
I.
K
S
A
K
I,
don't
think
that
we
have
anything
concrete
because
right
now
we
don't
have
the
construction
plan
because
we
have
not
got
the
bidding
for
that
again
and
Sam
you
can
you
can
certainly
step
in
and
help
me
if
you,
if
you
want
to
here,
but
we
are
still
working
on
bidding
the
construction,
so
some
of
those
things
will
be
determined
on
how
we
are
going
to
proceed.
That
will
impact
how
we
need
to
relocate
the
current
tenants,
so
we're
we're.
I
I
would
add,
but
in
light
of
that
future
information
we're
actively
working
on.
Where
is
space
available?
What
is
the
current
space
being
occupied?
What
are
the
needs
of
those
that
are
currently
in
the
capital?
We're
not
waiting
to
know
the
when
necessarily
to
understand
you
know
the
the?
What
in
terms
of
what
what
are
their
needs
are.
So
so,
commissioner,
Ruth
and
his
staff
are
in
the
process,
as
Senator
Mills
had
asked
to
identify
available
space
so
that
we
are
preparing,
you
know
for
the
various
occupants
of
the
of
the
capital
to
eventually
relocate.
R
O
A
You
last
question:
Senator
Thomas.
L
L
So
if
that's
the
case
will
not
impact
the
2024
session
at
all
that
both
Chambers
will
be
able
to
conduct
business
as
usual
through
April
15th
of
2024..
Is
that
correct
that.
A
Thank
you
Senator
and
last
question:
when
was
the:
when
was
this
bid
two
and
I
think
you
said
the
EOP
referred
or
received,
or
was
he
awarded
the
bid?
What
was
that
bidded
out
originally.
A
And
I'm,
just
and
I've
just
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
timing
that
this
is
Bid
out.
You
know
we're
three
I
understand
it's
20,
20.
A
I,
don't
know
if
that's
right
or
not,
but
that's
understand
it's
been
three
years.
It
seems
like
things
could
be,
go
a
little
long,
faster,
so
I
just
I
know
y'all
staying
on
top
of
it.
R
The
scope
changed:
originally,
it
was
a
a
electric
and
a
little
bit
of
MEP
work.
Okay,
but
as
we
got
into
or
EOP
got
into,
and
they
would
discover
more
and
more
things
it
turned
into.
If
we're
going
to
do
this,
let's
do
it
right
and
with
the
support
of
legislators
we
were
able
to
say:
let's:
let's
do
it
right
and
do
it.
So
it's
going
to
last
another
50
years
and.
R
A
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
and
we
have
about
12
minutes
left
and
the
era.
District
development,
sorry
area
District.
Let
me
say
this
again:
area
development
districts,
golly,
it's
one
of
those
days
having
a
little
tongue
twisting
and
I
apologize
for
for
the
time
crunch
that
y'all
have
so
I
know
if
you
can
be
as
quick
as
possible,
but
very
concise.
We
really
appreciate
this
and
I.
What's
going
to
apologize
for
the
time
tight
time
frame,
if
you
don't
mind,
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourselves
and
then
you're
at
the
floor.
U
We
became
aware,
through
our
client
Grant,
ready
Kentucky
that
over
three
trillion
dollars
was
going
to
be
released
by
the
federal
government
in
the
form
of
competitive
grants.
What
was
most
interesting
is
that,
within
that
three
trillion
dollars
there
was
a
pool
of
funds
set
aside
prioritized
for
25
areas
across
the
country
that
have
suffered
economic
downturns
and
job
losses
due
to
the
fossil
fuel
industry.
On
that
list
of
25
number
two
on
that
list
is
a
collection
of
21
counties
in
Eastern.
Kentucky
number.
U
The
scenario,
though,
is
that
most
federal
grants
require
a
match
anywhere
from
10
to
50
percent
and
for
these
very
impoverished
rural
areas,
that's
just
prohibitive
and
almost
as
inherently
exclusionary,
they
can
kind
of
with
even
10,
let
alone
50
percent.
So
what
do
you
do
about
that?
We
were
seeing
across
the
country
that
other
states,
particularly
our
neighboring
states,
Indiana,
West,
Virginia
and
Ohio-
we're
creating
pools
of
funds
for
that
match
so
that
their
communities
could
go
after
these
federal
grants
and
use
a
portion
of
funds
to
help
with
the
match.
U
So
that
was
the
impetus
for
house
bill
nine
and
that's
what
we've
done
here.
We
were
really
fortunate.
The
general
assembly.
Thank
you
for
allocating
two
million
dollars
to
get
this
off
the
ground
for
this
year.
What
I
can
report
is
that
since
session,
that
185
billion
dollar
pool
has
grown
to
as
of
June
1st
last
week,
966
billion
dollars
nearly
a
trillion
dollars
for
25
areas
across
the
country.
U
What
have
we
been
doing
since
session
to
get
this
up
off
the
ground?
So
what
house
will
9
does
is
allows
for
a
local
government,
a
non-profit
entity
or
an
ad
to
apply
to
the
state
for
the
matching
component
of
a
Federal
grant.
Once
that
entity
goes
secures
the
matching
component,
they
can
apply
for
the
Federal
grant
if
they
secure
it
and
are
successful,
then
department
for
local
government
releases
the
funds
and
then
from
there
we
go
on
that
process.
U
Just
to
tell
you
that
very
quickly.
The
response
from
everyone
has
been
enormously
positive.
Everybody
wants
to
be
a
part
of
this,
wants
to
collaborate,
wants
to
see
it
be
successful,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
let's
see
Billy.
V
Been
doing
I'll
Echo
everything
that
Rebecca
said
with
the
meetings
that
we
have
been
having
actually
I,
think
we
said
we
were
going
to
do
monthly
meetings,
but
we've
become
a
more
so
of
a
weekly
meeting,
we're
usually
talking
to
somebody.
So
it's
we're
making
a
lot
of
Headway
right
now.
The
department
of
local
government
has
been
tasked
with
proposing
and
drafting
an
application,
and
this
application
will
have
a
valuation
criteria,
project
eligibility
scoring
a
system
and
a
ranking
process.
V
Once
we
have
the
draft
ready
to
go,
we're
going
to
share
this
with
our
stakeholders
and
ask
for
feedback
and
any
suggestions
that
they
may
have
going
forward
board
once
again,
thanks
for
the
appropriation
for
the
2
million,
because
that
will
help
our
department
with
the
intent
of
administrating
the
process
and
the
guidelines
I
think
going
forward,
it's
important
for
dlg
to
also
educate
across
the
state
to
these
eligible
groups
and
to
the
counties
and
that
are
listed
for
them
to
know
how
this
process
works.
V
We
have
a
lot
of
existing
processes
at
the
department
for
local
government,
so
it's
we
have
a
really
good
advantage
to
go
ahead
and
establish
something
pretty
quickly
and
I
think
we
will
have
something
very
soon
to
be
able
to
share
back
with
you
all.
We
are
collecting
a
lot
of
data
and
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
so
thank
you
again.
I
feel
like
this
is
really
going
to
be
beneficial.
N
Thank
you.
As
Rebecca
mentioned,
the
collaboration,
the
collaboration
has
really
been
something
special,
it's
kind
of
great
to
see
everybody
come
together
and
and
work
in
concert
for
such
a
tremendous
opportunity.
Of
course,
the
core
of
your
area,
development
districts
is
collaboration,
it's
to
bring
all
local
governments
together
and
to
do
collectively
what
we
can't
do
on
our
own.
N
N
I
think
at
last
count
it
was
just
over
a
hundred
representatives
from
the
41
communities
will
be
there,
we'll
all
be
there
to
kind
of
put
that
charge
into
them
and
and
to
kind
of
give
them
the
give
them
the
lay
of
the
land
as
to
what
is
expected
of
Department
of
local
government,
your
area,
development
districts
and
them
as
elected
officials.
They
have
a
large
task
in
this
as
well,
so
we
are
working
with
dlg
of
course,
hand
in
hand
with
the
LG
to
put
together
and
identify
the
best
eligible.
N
The
best
possible
eligible
for
our
eligible
communities
and
all
entities,
not
just
the
the
our
communities,
we're
ramping
up
efforts
to
be
the
Clearinghouse
for
all
of
the
designated
priority
communities
and
we'll
be
providing
dlg
with
a
comprehensive
list
of
all
of
these
projects
and
we'll,
and
that
will
be
paired
with
the
potential
Federal
grant
program.
N
This
will
help
stream
streamline
their
process
and
allow
them
to
make
a
a
much
better
recommendation
for
State
funding,
of
course,
that
process
in
our
regions
has
already
begun,
and
so
we
have
with
us
Jason
and
Whitney,
as
they
had
introduce
themselves.
Just
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
what's
going
on
in
their
regions,.
T
So,
as
Casey
said,
I
think
I'm
here
just
to
briefly
articulate
what
the
need
is
from
the
boots
on
the
ground,
and
let
me
just
say
this:
what
you
all
are
talking
about
here,
what
you
have
done
and
what
hopefully
could
be
done
and
will
be
done
with
house
bill
nine
it.
It
will
be
a
game
changer
for
our
communities
across
the
state.
I
spent
just
a
little
time
earlier
this
week.
T
Looking
that
are
looking
at
our
projects
in
our
district,
which
are
nine
counties
in
in
West
Kentucky,
seven
of
those
counties
are
eligible
for
the
fund.
That
Rebecca
is
talking
about
again
about
15
minutes.
Looking
at
our
active
project
list,
those
projects
that
are
under
development
that
have
not
received
funding
and
I
quickly
identified
about
164
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
that
we
are
still
looking
for.
T
Funding
for
that
includes
representative
Bridges,
the
project
in
Marion,
which
is
about
a
40
million
dollar
Water,
Treatment,
Plant
expansion,
and
so
that's
just
a
name,
and
example
of
what
we're
talking
about
that.
These
funds
could
be
utilized
for,
as
Rebecca
mentioned,
that
a
lot
of
these
Grant
programs,
which
we
work
with
already
on
a
daily
basis,
require
a
10
match.
A
20
match.
T
50
percent
match,
maybe
even
a
70
match,
but
just
using
a
20
match
number
on
that
164
million
we're
looking
at
32
million
855
thousand
dollars
that
we
could
potentially
need
in
match
just
for
our
region
down
in
West
Kentucky.
So
again,
just
giving
you
a
little
indication
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
how
this
how
these
programs
will
benefit
our
area.
S
Okay,
that
includes
questions
too
I'm
Whitney
Chestnut
again
from
the
Cumberland
Valley
area,
development,
district
and
I
represent
eight
counties,
and
four
of
my
counties
are
included
in
this,
which
are
bail,
clay,
Harlan
and
Jackson,
and
I
like
Jason,
spent
a
few
minutes
looking
at
projects
that
are
in
the
development
phases.
And
what
that
means
in
regard
to
this
and
I
also
want
to.
Thank
you,
because
this
is
a
game
changer
for
us
and
for
our.
S
I
quickly
identified
about
53
million
751
848
dollars
worth
of
projects
with
the
need
of
about
10
million,
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
three
hundred
seventy
dollars
for
match.
That's
needed
and
I
have
Eastern
Kentucky
my
communities
a
lot
of
times
they
they
have
needs
and
the
money
is
there,
but
they
can't
come
up
with
the
match
and
that
really
is
a
deal
breaker
for
them.
S
So
I
they're,
very
pleased
with
this
and
excited
to
say
the
least,
and
just
a
few
of
my
projects
like
Jason
mentioned,
would
be
one
which
is
about
a
20
million
dollar
project
for
Clay
County
city
of
Manchester.
That
would
be
a
a
new
water
source
for
them,
they're
currently
getting
their
water
from
a
river,
and
it
would
be
a
moving
to
Laurel,
County
and
taking
water
out
of
Laurel
Lake
over
to
Clay
County
in
Manchester.
S
So
that's
about
a
20
million
dollar
project
with,
like
Jason,
said
that
we
would
need
about
a
four
million
dollar
match
for
that.
So,
if
you
all
have
any
questions
for
me,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer,
but
we
took
a
quick
look
at
our
projects
and
I'm.
Just
so
excited
about
this
opportunity,
and
thank
you
again
for
everything
that
you
do.
Thank.
A
Great
representative
Johnson.
Q
C
K
C
You're
working
on
are
there
people
outside
of
Kentucky
that
are
able
to
come
in,
maybe
they're.
They
have
tourism
influence
or
Recreation
influence
that
are
very
interested
in
expanding
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
S
U
Also
add
here
just
there's
nothing
in
House
Bill
9
that
prohibits
private
investment
from
also
contributing
to
that
match,
and
so
that
would
also
be
incredibly
helpful
towards
that
Indiana
set
aside
500
million
dollars
a
year
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
for
the
combination
of
that
500
million
plus
private
investment.
They
yielded
a
20
to
1
return
rate
and
almost
9.86
billion
in
funding.
So
yes,.
P
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
there
you
go
and
there
you
go
so
one
thank
y'all
for
your
efforts,
I'm
glad
to
hear
the
monthly
is
there
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
the
almost
weekly.
This
is
an
important
piece
representative.
Heath
I
appreciate
him
for
working
on
this
appreciate
what
y'all
are
doing
and
I'm
going
to
ball
this
back
down
to
budget
concerns.
At
this
point
we
have
in
the
East.
Hopefully
this
is
accurate.
That's
come
from
us.
Heart
saw
some
time
ago.
So,
hopefully
it
hasn't
changed.
P
If
you
have
any
connection
with
those
counties
or
care
about
somebody
in
those
counties,
make
sure
they
know
about
House,
Bill
9
and
understand
that
they
are
second
preference.
Second
tier
consideration
in
the
entire
country.
There
are
many
more
tears
than
one
and
two
they're
at
second
tier
preference.
If
they
make
an
application
meet
the
eligibility
they
are
at
the
top
of
the
list
for
consideration
of
extraordinarily
large
Grant
possibilities
for
fundamental
infrastructure,
as
well
as
everything
else.
You
can
possibly
imagine
with
nearly
a
trillion
dollars
available
in
those
Grant
pools.
P
Now
it
is
a
broad
spectrum.
Do
not
think
narrow
do
not
think
shallow,
think
very
Broad,
and
very
deep.
Likewise
in
the
west,
Ballard
Breckenridge
Caldwell
Callaway
Carlisle
Crittenden,
Fulton,
Graves,
Grayson,
Hickman,
Hopkins,
Livingston,
Lyon,
Marshall,
McCracken,
Muhlenberg,
Ohio,
Todd,
Union
and
Webster
counties
the
same
thing
except
you're
in
sixth
tier
preference
in
the
entire
country,
which
means
you're
still
near
the
top
of
the
list
for
everything
that
I
just
described
now
bullet
back
down
to
budget
representative
Johnson,
though
Senator
Mills
is
going
to
ask
something
very
similar.
P
P
Now
the
reason
I've
been
so
appreciative
these
people
getting
together
and
working
on
this
issue
is
this:
we
put
two
million
dollars
in
as
a
placeholder
to
help
dlg
and
to
help
everybody
understand
we're
serious.
It
might
help
with
Personnel
to
coordinate
things
and
identify
those
grants
great
great
and
greater.
P
However,
when
we're
putting
the
budget
together,
all
of
us
are
working
on
it.
How
are
we
going
to
stunt
for
putting
money
more
money
than
2
million
in
if
no
one
has
any
real
interest
in
it?
So
the
reason
I'm
stoken
up
interest
is
because
I
believe
in
it
one
and
two:
it's
there
three.
If
other
people
look
into
it
in
great
detail
and
believe
in
it
and
find
look,
we
need
a
match
of
600
million.
P
Okay,
if
we
don't
have
that
interest,
if
we
don't
see
that
metrics
for
how
we're
going
to
make
the
decision,
we
don't
set
an
interest
on
the
ground,
then
the
conversations
get
a
lot
cooler
and
cold
fast,
so
I
encourage
anybody
with
a
connection
Senator
or
representative,
or
anyone
with
enlisting
of
this
make
contact
with
your
ads.
Make
contact
with
the
Ad
Council.
Do
not
bother
dlg
with
this
they're,
not
on
that
part
of
it.
They're
on
the
match.
Part
saw
make
contact
with
them,
find
out
get
involved
with
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
Thank
you
may
have
one
thing
just
to
piggyback
on
chairman,
so
Governor
vidiana
said
ready
was
so
successful,
but
they
are
appropriating
even
more
funding
and
money
for
it.
So
states
are
seeing
this
they're
seeing
how
successful
it
is
and
how
it
can
be
leveraged.
So
just
to
tell
you
that
they're
going
back
for
more.
A
I
think
we
get,
we
got
just.
T
A
Thank
you
Rebecca
and
your
colleagues
for
all
your
efforts
and
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
and
appreciate
your
support
and
thank
you
all
very
much
for
doing
it.
For
being
here,
we
will
reconvene
on
the
19th
of
July.
My
co-chair
Finland
will
will
be
the
chair
of
that
meeting
and
we
stand
adjourned.