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A
We
want
to
call
this
meeting
order,
we
are
looking
at
taking
the
roll
call
first
and
we
will
establish
the
quorum.
We
please
call
the
roll.
A
A
First,
I'd
like
to
introduce
and
welcome
our
newest,
but
not
new
board
member
director
john
hicks
from
the
budget
director's
office,
and
we
he
previously
served
from
2006
to
2016
on
this
committee.
He
brings
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
looking
forward
to
having
him
here
and
helping
us
as
we
move
through
these
projects
and
planning.
So
welcome.
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
joining
us.
A
A
A
Okay,
motion
and,
second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
okay.
The
minutes
are
approved.
Thank
you
very
much,
jumping
on
ahead
to
our
informational
items.
First,
we
have
the
budget
update
from
the
2022
session.
B
Yes,
information
item
4a,
highlights
items
concerning
the
board's
recommendations
in
the
22
to
2028
statewide
capital
improvements
plan
included
in
the
capital
project's
budget,
section
of
the
22-24
executive
branch
budget
bill
attachment
a
reflects.
The
requested
funding
for
maintenance
pool
necessary
to
maintain
state-owned
state-owned
property,
the
appropriated
amounts
and
a
comparison
to
the
appropriated
amounts
in
the
22
2020-22
executive
branch
budget,
attachment
b
list.
B
All
of
the
projects
recommended
by
the
board
in
the
statewide
capital
improvements
plan
and
the
appropriated
amount
in
the
executive
branch
budget
bill
and
finally,
attachment
c
is
a
table
reflecting
all
projects
included
in
at
least
one
executive
branch
budget
bill
version.
The
table
includes
fun
sources,
appropriation
amounts
and
some
notes
from
staff
observations.
B
The
table
reflects
a
continual
progression
of
the
budget
bill,
as
it
progressed
through
each
chamber
from
left
to
right.
Each
modification
for
a
project
from
the
previous
version
of
the
bill
will
have
an
appropriation
amount
outlined
with
a
bold
border.
The
final
two
pages
of
the
attachment
reflect
the
budget
bill
for
the
transportation
cabinet,
excluding
the
department
of
highways
and
the
budget
bill
for
the
judicial
branch.
A
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
fantastic
staff,
we're
happy
with
corey's,
not
brand
new,
but
he's
been
taking
a
major
role
in
putting
a
lot
of
these
things
together
for
us,
and
these
are
very
helpful-
we
have
a
lot.
We
can
celebrate
right
now.
This
maintenance
pools.
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
maintenance
pool
numbers,
you
recall,
maintenance
pools.
A
A
So
even
more
than
is
even
reflected
on
this
list,
I
think
we've
seen
get
funded.
So
that's
exciting.
Okay
staff
we've
got
staff
report
on
the
post
secondary
is
that
corey
also.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Our
agency
maintenance
pool,
you'll
notice
has
been
funded
by
general
funds
and
we're
up
133
percent.
According
to
the
notes
here,
we
have
in
our
reports.
That's
good
news.
The
other
thing
that
I
do
notice
here
on
our
cpe
maintenance
pool.
We
did
reach
almost
the
full
700
million
that
they
had
requested.
A
Unfortunately,
the
matching
funds
aren't
quite
up
to
where
we
thought
they
would
be
according
to
the
request
they
we,
we
thought
they
had
originally
said
they
wanted
700
million
and
they
would
have
they
thought
350
million
to
match,
so
they
would
have
a
total
operating
pool
of
just
right
over
a
billion
dollars,
and
it
looks
like
the
matching
funds
aren't
coming
in
that
much
so
we're
maybe
a
little
bit
shy
on
the
totals.
A
A
B
The
proposal
for
the
new
development
must
be
submitted
no
later
than
december,
and
when
that
becomes
available
to
the
public,
we
will
share
that
with
you.
I
might
point
out
that,
in
the
last
capital
plan,
the
state
fair
board
reported
the
need
for
18
million
over
the
three
biennia
to
address
their
maintenance
needs
at
their
facilities,
and
those
facilities
include
over
2
million
square
feet
at
the
kentucky
exposition
center
and
the
kentucky
international
convention
center.
A
C
This
was
an
amazing
budget
for
because
of
the
availability
of
one
time
resources,
particularly,
but
what
I
think
it
also
showed
was
the
value
of
this
body
and
the
planning
processes
that
this
body
kind
of
oversees
is
because
we
were.
We
were
ready
for
this
amount
of
money
in
terms
of
the
efforts
that
state
agencies
and
the
institutions
of
post-secondary
make,
particularly
in
the
judicial
branch
in
in
you
know,
in
continuously
keeping
up
with
their
asset
inventory
and
the
maintenance
needs
of
theirs.
C
A
Okay,
see
none.
We
will
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
presentation
by
the
kentucky
department
of
education.
We
have
the
impact
on
inflation
with
these
current
school
facility
construction
projects.
D
D
We
oversee,
obviously
the
facilities,
some
of
the
construction
portion
of
that
and
in
our
same
office
school
and
community
nutrition,
tran
school
transportation
seek
funding
that
many
of
you
familiar
with.
So
we
interact
with
all
the
school
districts
on
a
daily
basis,
and
today
I've
been
invited
over
and
first
of
all,
let
me
say.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
this
group
because
usually
I'm
in
front
of
anr
or
one
of
the
education
subcommittees.
D
So
this
is
a
little
different
for
us,
but
this
is
also
a
very
different
topic
for
us
too,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
all
virtually.
I
wish
I
could
have
been
there
in
person,
but
today,
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
all
some
information-
and
some
of
this
is
probably
more
relevant
today
than
it
ever
has
been.
I
think
this
topic
is
going
to
stay
on
the
front
burner
for
us
as
we're
involved
in
school
facilities.
D
Construction
for
the
next
couple
of
years-
and
obviously
a
lot
of
this
is
you
know,
hinged
on
speculation,
that
you
know,
cost
will
continue
to
go
up
and
inflation
will
impact
school
facility
projects,
but
we
found
this
to
be
very
important.
We're
hearing
a
lot
of
conversations
from
our
districts
board
members,
superintendents
construction
companies,
architects
about
this
very
topic,
which
is
you
know,
impacting
decisions
every
day,
so
senator
southworth
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
start.
If
that's
okay
with
you,
please.
A
D
D
One
thing:
that's
very
important
with
this
process
is
understanding.
You
know
sort
of
how
the
the
seed
gets
planted
on
some
of
these
construction
projects
and
how
it
takes
a
while
it's
a
pretty
lengthy
and
involved
process,
but
for
good
reason.
These
are
tax
dollars
that
are
being
spent
on
facilities
and
the
expectation
is
these
facilities
will
be
built
in
a
manner
that's
consistent
with.
Obviously,
you
know,
building
and
housing
codes,
but
also
to
last.
These
are
serious
investments
and
going
back
and
been
with
the
department.
D
D
So
obviously,
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
funding,
because
that's
always
a
topic,
the
financing
and
something
that
we
do.
Every
biennium
with
the
general
assembly
called
the
need
and
unmet
need-
and
some
of
you
may
have
heard
of
that
before,
but
we
interact
quite
a
bit
with
the
school
facilities
construction
commission
on
that
issue
as
well,
and
something
that's
that
you
all
actually
passed
a
couple
years
ago.
D
This
kentucky
facility's
inventory
classification
system
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
and
how
that
interacts
with
what
we're
doing
today
house
bill
678,
which
is
very
recent
last
session
that
you
all
passed
and
how
that's
impacting
districts
and
actually
helping
some
districts
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
construction,
of
course,
always
time
for
questions
and
at
any
time
any
of
these
slides.
Just
stop
me
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
them.
So
the
very
first
part
is
the
planning.
D
You
know
it
always
reminds
me
of
a
game
called
sim
city
where
you've
got
kind
of
a
blank
screen.
You
start
building
something:
you've
got
to
plan
a
little
bit
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
the
department
does
is
we
have
some
guardrails
and
some
framework
for
the.
What
we
call
the
district
facility
planning
process
and
there's
a
local
planning
committee.
Emphasis
is
on
the
local
kde
is
not
really
involved.
We
don't
show
up
and
tell
them
what
to
do.
D
There's
a
kde,
usually
someone
there
to
kind
of
help
guide
them,
but
we're
not
making
decisions
for
them,
and
this
committee
has
got
about
10
to
20
members,
parents,
teachers
building
administrators
facility
directors,
central
office
staff
and
of
course
the
superintendent
are
involved
in
this,
and
I've
been
a
director
now
for
a
little
bit
over
two
years.
I
think,
as
of
this
month-
and
you
know
in
talking
to
superintendents
and
occasionally
you
know
other
people
involved
in
this
process-
that
we
think
this
local
planning
committee
works
very
well.
D
D
So
one
thing
they
want
to
look
at
as
a
group
is
what
you
know
not
only
what
their
you
know
wants
are,
but
what
what
their
demographics
look
like?
You
know,
what
kind
of
population
are
they
projected
to
have
and
I'm
going
to
pick
on
a
few
districts
that
I'm
friendly
with,
but
scott
county
is
one
that
we
always
kind
of
look
at
because
of
the
growth
of
population.
D
D
But
financial
capability
is
really
important
too.
That's
probably
one
of
the
most
important
and
that's
probably
the
one
we
sweat
about
the
most,
because
you
can
have
all
the
dreams,
and
you
can
say
we're
going
to
have
to
have
this
much
room
for
these
kids,
but
you've
also
got
to
have
the
capability
of
paying
for
it
and
they
will
sort
of
address
their
needs
based
on
our
kentucky
schools
planning
manual,
which
is
sort
of
a
guide
that
they
use
to.
D
So
there's
a
minimum
of
three
public
meetings
and
every
four
years
this
district
facility
plan
should
be
updated
by
the
district
and
that
local
planning
committee
and
they
can
extend
it
for
an
additional
four
years
if
they,
you
know,
are
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
you
know,
doing
some
construction
and
want
to
wait
until
a
project's
done
or
there's
a
reason.
They
just
think
our
right.
D
Now
our
plan
is
okay
and
we
just
want
to
extend
it
out
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
one
reason
it's
every
four
years
is
because
we
want
it
to
stay
fairly,
fresh
and
active.
We
don't
want
it
to
become
so
dormant
that
you
know
they've
just
kind
of
let
it
kind
of
age.
Out
and
frankly,
if
you
go
to
google
and
type
in
any
school
district,
then
the
letters
dfp
behind
that
name,
you
should
be
able
to
pull
up
their
most
recent
dfp.
It's
on
our
website.
D
You
can
kind
of
see
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
here
in
just
a
second
about
priorities,
but
you
can
see
how
the
work
gets
into
a
final
product,
and
you
know
what,
for
example,
anderson
county.
What
their
dfp
looks
like
and
maybe
what
they're
wanting
to
do
in
the
next
biennium
and
things
like
that,
so
it
does
kind
of
give
you
a
preview
of
what
the
district
would
like
to
do
so
again
talk
about
priorities
that
I
just
mentioned
so
priority
one.
D
These
are
the
basically
in
the
next
veining
what
they'd
like
to
address
and
if
you'll
notice,
I
use
the
word
educational
projects
which
we
consider
school
buildings.
This
would
be
your
elementary
middle
and
high
schools
and
priority
two
same
types
of
buildings,
but
maybe
not
the
next
biennium
and
when
you
think
of
it,
I
live
in
franklin
county.
D
So
I
think
our
last
new
school,
when
I
was
in
school,
was
probably
they
came
in
and
did
peeks
mill
elementary,
which
that
would
have
been
on
their
dfp
at
the
time
as
the
priority
one
and
then
maybe
a
couple
years
later
they
updated
westridge,
which
would
have
been
a
priority
too
priority
three.
These
are
mostly
your
what
I
would
call
kind
of
your
operational
areas,
cafeterias
and
kitchens,
which
are
in
the
schools,
obviously,
but
not
really.
D
Classrooms
per
se
and
you've
got
some
administrative
areas
and
priority
forces
your
management
support
areas
like
central
offices
and
bus
garages
and
of
note
the
discretionary
projects.
These
are
ones
that
don't
really
meet
these
other
areas,
but
they
also
include
athletic
facilities
and
you've,
probably
noticed
or
if
you've
you
know,
pay
attention
to
a
lot
of
school
facilities
whenever
they
build
a
high
school.
D
So
the
planning
manual
that
I
mentioned
previously
sort
of
restricts
them
based
on
the
population
and
some
projections.
You
know
we
obviously
don't
want
a
district
to
build
a
high
school.
It's
way
overbuilt
because
it
cost
a
lot
of
additional
money
to
build
it,
but
also
to
maintain
it
and
heat
and
cool
it.
So
we
kind
of
have
a
model
that
helps
them,
keep
it
within
a
range,
but
in
some
cases
they
may
want
to
do
something
a
little
different
and
add
you
know
an
extra.
D
So
funding
this
is
where
I
kind
of
cut
my
teeth
as
a
young
man
at
kde
is
talking
about
local
taxes
and
these
you've.
If
you've
paid
attention
to
the
budget
and
conversations
with
districts,
you'll
hear
a
lot
about
nickels
and
it's
it's
not
really
a
mystery.
What
these
are
their
taxes,
restricted
to
facilities
and
you'll,
hear
it
especially
around
tax
season,
which
is
coming
up
in
just
a
couple
of
weeks
for
school
districts,
a
lot
of
them
that
have
these.
D
What
it
is
it's
every
district
has
a
one
nickel
and
it's
restricted
four
facilities
and
the
state
through
the
biennial
budget,
actually
equalizes.
It's
not
really
a
match
because
there's
a
formula,
but
it
equalizes
it
and
some
districts
throughout
time.
The
general
assembly
has
written
language
for
specific
reasons.
I'll
give
you
a
few
quick
examples.
D
There
was
a
growth,
nickel,
so
districts
that
met
a
criteria
where
they
were
growing
very
fast
and
the
example
is
always
oldham
county
back
in
the
day,
they
were
growing
very
fast,
of
course,
you're
getting
a
lot
of
new
students.
You
know
you're
going
to
have
to
split
an
elementary
build,
a
new
one
or
your
middle
school's
got
to
split
up,
so
this
allowed
them
to
reach
those
facility
goals
because
they
were
just
getting.
You
know
tons
of
new
kids
coming
into
their
district.
D
You
know
10
of
the
worst
buildings
we
had
in
the
state,
so
the
category
5
nickel
was
for
those
buildings
and
those
districts
were
able
to
address
those
specific
buildings,
and
these
were
you
know,
relatively
bad
shape,
so
that
nickel
went
right
to
those
buildings
for
to
pay
for
the
20-year
bonds
and
again,
the
important
part
of
that
too,
is
that's
equalized
by
the
general
assembly
in
the
budget
bill.
So
it's
that
local
effort,
plus
state
effort,
which
makes
a
huge
difference
in
you,
know
helping
these
districts
reach
their
goals.
D
D
In
some
cases
the
public
may
not
petition
it
and
it
just
passes
and
then
it's
on
their
tax
bill,
but
some
districts
will
have
multiples
of
these,
and
this
is
one
thing
we'll
talk
to
about
in
just
a
second
they'll
have
multiple
nickels
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
local
effort
and
the
state's
equalizing
it,
but
it
may
still
not
be
enough
to
get
them
over
that
hump
with
their
facilities
plan.
The
other
group
which
school
facilities,
construction,
commission
sfcc,
as
some
of
you
may
know
them
by.
D
Of
course
this
is
a
small
group
of
two
people
and
a
commission,
but
they
also
have
offers
of
assistance
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
we
interact
with
them
quite
a
bit
great
relationship
with
them
over
the
years
and
we
work
together
on
developing
something
called
the
unmet
and
unmet
need
and
need,
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second.
But
these
offers
are
incredibly
important.
This
is,
if
you
will
sort
of
help
in
some
cases
tie
these
projects
together.
D
You
know
between
their
local
taxes
and
your
equalization
that
you
put
in
the
general
the
budget
the
general
assembly
puts
in
a
budget.
This
offers
of
assistance,
kind
of
can
kind
of
push
them
over
that
finish
line.
So
it's
a
very
important
part
of
the
budget
bill
and
then
there's
the
special
offers
of
assistance.
This
again
is
just
another,
I
think
I'm
going
to
say
in
the
neighborhood
of
100
million
and
changed
last
time.
D
If
I
remember-
and
these
go
to
specific
districts
based
on
specific
criteria
determined
by
the
general
assembly
and
you
can
go
back
and
look
through
the
budget
bills
you'll
see
different
lists
of
different
districts.
I
think
in
the
last
one
I
just
had
up
a
while
ago,
I
think
there's
a
I'm
going
to
say:
ludlow
was
in
there
and
carter
county,
and
if
you
go
back
to
the
last
budget,
it's
again
spread
all
over
the
state.
So
this
is
an
additional
way
to
address
facility
needs
and
in
some
cases
it
may
be.
D
A
district
really
needs
help
because
they're
buildings
in
just
terrible
shape,
or
they
can't
quite
get
enough
money
to
do
it.
So
this
is
why
it's
considered
a
special
offer
of
assistance
and
again
all
that's
in
the
budget
bill,
so
financing
each
of
our
districts.
Obviously,
you
know
as
a
taxing
authority,
they,
you
know,
generate
money
off
local
taxes,
as
I'm
sure,
if
you've
got
property
or
a
car.
When
you
get
your
tax
bill,
there's
a
significant
portion
of
that
tax
bill
that
goes
towards
your
local
school
district.
D
Some
districts
will
do
utility
taxes,
which
is
on
the
usage,
and
some
will
also
do
occupational
tax.
But
you
know,
basically,
their
ability
to
generate
money
is
restricted
to
local
taxes
and
obviously
the
state
funding
that
comes
through
seek
and
if
you're
looking
at
it
in
bigger
picture
numbers,
it's
around.
D
You
know
roughly
two
plus
billion
in
state
funding
and
seek
a
loan,
and
then
local
taxes
are
about
a
little
bit
over
two
billion
as
well,
and
if
you
add
up
all
the
other
stuff,
as
we
often
do
for
you
know
how
much
money
is
the
state
putting
into
you
know
k
through
12
education.
It
increases
significantly
there's
on
behalf
there's
retirement
on
behalf
insurance,
there's
a
lot
of
money
that
goes
into
this.
But
as
far
as
buildings
are
concerned,
there
are
some
restricted
buckets
of
money.
D
So
if
I'm
a
school
district-
and
I
want
to
build
just
a
generic
elementary
school
and
I've
got
the
land,
I
can
go
to
my
fiscal
agent
who
will
help
me
issue
a
bond
and
of
course,
you
know
much
like
us.
When
we
go
to
the
bank
to
get
a
mortgage,
you
know
there's
an
underlying
asset
and
the
bond
holders.
The
people
that
buy
the
bonds
obviously
want
to
make
sure
they
get
paid
back
incorrect.
D
So
credit
rating
is
a
huge
huge
deal
and
the
school
districts
are
hyper
aware
of
this,
as
are
the
fiscal
agents,
and
obviously
I
think
everybody
that's
in
state
government
is
aware
of
credit
ratings,
so
but
the
other
things
outside
of
their
control
like
interest
rates.
D
Just
like
you-
and
I,
if
I
went
back
in
time
and
bought
or
got
a
mortgage
at
the
lowest
interest
rate
possible
and
then
moved
forward
to
today,
there's
a
significant
difference
in
my
buying
power
and
as
interest
rates
increase,
of
course
that
reduces
the
amount
of
building
that
these
school
districts
can
do
and,
of
course,
existing
debt
service.
You
know
what
they've
done
in
the
past.
If
they
borrowed
to
build
a
middle
school
but
they're
trying
to
start
a
elementary
school
and
they're,
you
know
they've
got
some
debt
service
already.
D
So
what
can
happen
is
this
gap
in
funding,
and
you
know
when
a
board
starts
to
talk
about
their
dfp
and
their
district
facility
plan,
and
they
think
well,
we'd
really
like
to
start
this
elementary
school
project
and
they
they
they
talk
to
the
fiscal
agent.
They've
got
a
you
know
an
estimated
cost
of
the
project
they
say
well,
how
much
can
we
borrow
and
how
much
you
know?
D
How
much
can
we
do
here
if
the
building's
going
to
cost
them
50
million
and
they
can
only
generate
40
million
in
bonding
potential
you've
got
this
10
million
dollar
gap,
so
they
get
to
that
decision
point
which
is
well.
How
do
we
address
this?
Do
we
reduce
the
scope
of
the
building?
Do
we,
you
know,
cut
some
corners
off
of
it
or
do
we
phase
it
in
and
phasing
it
in
is
simply
put
you
know,
you're
going
to
build
it
in
sections,
basically
we'll
build
it
to
a
point.
D
You
know
you
can
build
this
section
now
and
then
come
back
in
a
couple
of
years
and
you
know
attach
another
wing
for
the
school
or
put
grades
nine
and
ten
on
this
end
of
the
building
and,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
logistics
because
you're
moving
some
students
around
you
know,
while
you're
building
and
things
like
that
too.
So
this
can
be.
You
know
this.
Is
that
really
the
crux
of
one
of
the
issues
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
districts
I
think
deal
with
and
boards
is
you
know?
D
So
this
need
and
unmet
need
is
really
a
very
simple
concept.
It's
the
we
do
this
every
biennium
and
we
share
it
with
the
school
facilities,
construction,
commission
and
the
last
time
we
did
it
this
all.
The
school
districts
combined
have
about
six
billion
dollars
worth
of
unmet
need,
and
this
is
basically
everything
that's
on
their
district
facility
plan.
That's
not
yet
been
addressed,
so
it's
kind
of
the
wish
list.
If
you
will-
and
so
it's
it's
a
big
number-
and
it's
not
supposed
to
shock
anybody.
D
Jefferson
county
is
a
pretty
good
chunk
of
that,
because
you
know
they've
recently
had
a
tax
that
passed
and
they're
starting
to
address
a
lot
of
their
kind
of
aging
facility
issues
there,
and
you
know
that
I
think
they
were
just
south
of
a
billion
dollars
and
with
their
recent
tax
increase
they'll
be
able
to
address,
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
half
a
billion
dollars
of
that,
so
our
expectation
is
that
jcps
will
be
really
doing
a
lot
of
renovations
and
construction
in
the
near
future
because
of
that
local
tax.
D
That
they've
generated
not
in
the
last
couple
years
or
about
a
year
year
and
a
half
or
so
so
if
you're.
Basically,
these
are
all
the
projects,
one
through
four.
If
we
go
back
a
couple
slides
on
that
priority
list
and
we
subtract
any
projects
that
have
just
got
started
and
this
helps
sfcc
develop
their
offers
of
assistance.
D
So
if
your
portion
of
that
need
is
three
percent,
when
they
get
their
money
from
sfcc,
it
would
be
three
percent
of
a
total.
So
if
you,
the
general
assembly
gives
them,
I
don't,
I'm
just
going
to
use
a
round
number
say
100
million
dollars,
then
a
district
might
get
three
percent
of
that
for
their
offers
of
assistance,
but
it's
a
rather
interesting
calculation.
Just
because
you
can
see
you
know,
districts
that
have
addressed
their
need
will
have
a
lower
need.
D
D
And
even
you
know,
if
you
have
an
older
school-
and
this
is
obviously
you
know
not
something
we
we
like,
but
now
we
have
to
think
about.
You
know
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design.
We
have
to
think
about
security
and
safety
a
lot
more
than
we
used
to.
So
these
things
are,
you
know
they
may
use
an
outside
service
for
this,
an
outside
architecture
firm
to
come
in
and
do
this
for
me
and
they
can
do
it
themselves
too.
This
is
not
mandatory,
but
what
this
list
does
is.
D
It
helps
us
get
a
better
picture
of
the
sort
of
the
guts
of
all
these
buildings
and
you
may
have
a
building
built
in
1930,
but
the
condition
is
in
pretty
good
shape
and
you
may
have
one
built
in
1975,
but
the
condition
is
not
in
great
shape.
It
may
have
some,
you
know
very
serious,
hvac
issues
or
whatever
it
may
be,
but
this
gives
us
a
better
better
picture
and
this
is
available
online.
D
And
one
of
those
is
you
know
if
we're
looking
at
the
oldest
buildings
that
haven't
been
addressed
yet
plus,
you
know,
condition
plus
this
and
that,
but
it's
an
inventory
of
existing
buildings,
what
it
doesn't
do
is
tell
you
what's
on
the
district
facility
plan,
so
you
sort
of
have
to
push
the
two
together
just
understand.
Well,
you
know
if
this
building
is
not
in
great
shape,
does
the
district
just
want
to
build
a
new
one
and
that's
sort
of
a
that's
a
hard
decision
point.
D
That's
not
one
that
kde
necessarily
makes
and
there's
some
rules
about
buildings
that
are
30
years
old
and
older
too,
but
we
also
recognize
there's
school
districts
with
some
older
buildings
and
I'll
pick
on
one
down
the
street
from
you
all
frankfurt,
independent.
You
know,
they've
got
some
older
buildings
that
are
well
maintained,
but
obviously
for
them
to
go
out
and
buy
acreage
and
build
a
brand
new
building
would
be
difficult
within
their
boundaries.
So
you
know
every
district's
kind
of
got
a
different
situation
and
some
districts
are.
D
You
know
that
they're
surrounded
by
plenty
of
land
and
others
aren't
some
like
mayfield,
are
right
in
the
middle
of
the
town,
and
things
like
that.
So
this
is
a
very
important
tool,
but
again
using
it,
you
know
correctly
and
making
sure
we
understand
what
we're
looking
at
and
also
you
know
kind
of
using
it
in
conjunction
with
that
district
facility
plan.
I
think
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
good
information
about
these
facilities,
so
last
session
house
bill
678.
D
D
So
over
time,
as
I
became
director,
there
was
a
you
know:
there's
a
big
process
to
get
a
building
from.
You
know,
for
sort
of
the
ground
level
to
let's
you
know,
dig
the
dirt,
get
the
foundation
board
and
get
this
thing
built,
and
it
took
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
review
so
house
bill
678
allows
districts
to
sort
of
skip
through
some
of
the
review
process
and
they
basically
adopt
a
resolution.
D
Now,
when
I
say
skip
the
review
process,
I
want
to
emphasize
we're
not
saying
you
can
just
like
ignore
all
the
rules
and
do
whatever
you
want
to
do
the
districts.
This
sort
of
turn
we
hand
the
keys
over
to
the
districts
to
make
sure
they're
going
to
follow
the
rules,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
them
they're
still
using
our
system,
which
is
called
fact
pack
which
collects
a
lot
of
information
when
they're,
you
know
developing
their
plans,
so
we
can
track
these
projects
they're
supposed
to
upload
all
these
documents
and
obviously
follow.
D
D
So
what
this
resolution
does
is
allows
them
to
conduct
new
construction
renovations
and
they
can
do
it
basically
they're,
not
waiting
on
our
review.
Our
review
process
did
take
quite
a
while
and
representative
massey
actually
was
the
sponsor
of
this
bill
and
conversations
with
him.
This
was
just
to
help
accelerate
these
projects
because
the
wave
of
cost
increases
was,
you
know
right
behind
these
projects.
It
was
coming
right
at
him
pretty
quickly,
and
you
know
this
also
changed
something
which
was
kind
of
a,
I
think,
a
major
gripe.
D
I
think
I
can
say
that
from
some
districts
that
you
know
the
restricted
funds
through
these
nickels,
including
local
and
state
equalization,
you
couldn't
use
them
on
extracurricular
activities,
including
athletic
facilities.
So
when
you
built
a
high
school,
you
were
kind
of
handcuffed.
You
couldn't
build
the
new
football
stadium,
baseball,
softball
field,
things
like
that
without
using
general
funds
or
addressing
every
other
project.
D
You
had
in
priorities,
one
through
four,
so
this
allows
them
a
lot
more
flexibility,
and
I
think
it's
been
very
welcome
by
the
school
districts-
and
my
note
here
says:
139.
I
do
think
we're
at
140
or
141.
I
was
trying
to
get
that
number
and
it
changes
relatively
we're,
adding
like
one.
It
really
picked
up
the
last
couple
months,
but
it's
finally
slowing
down,
so
the
majority
of
our
districts
are
operating
under
this.
D
So
we
think
that-
and
you
know,
there's
some
other
parts
of
this
bill
that
will
have
kdes
reviewing
all
our
regulations
with
facilities.
This
has
been
ongoing
for
months
and
months
and
months
and
we're
really
taking
what
I
think
is
the
deepest
dive.
We've
done
in
many
years
on,
some
of
our
regulations
and
the
requirements
trying
to
streamline
trying
to
cut
red
tape,
get
rid
of
some
of
the
bureaucratic
hurdles
as
well
as
work
with
these
districts.
We
have
a
kind
of
a
small
task
force.
D
That's
still
important,
as
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
what
we're
asking
districts
to
do
or
what
districts
are
wanting
to
do
is
going
to
get
still
get
us
a
good
building
and
a
safe
building
and
built
well
to
last-
and
things
like
that,
so
I
stole
some
charts
from
the
u.s
bureau
of
labor
statistics,
because
we
felt
you
know
really.
This
conversation
is
a
lot
about
inflation.
D
I'm
not
a
you
know.
I
didn't
have
a
degree
in
economics,
but
we
could
tell
very
quickly
in
the
phone
calls
we
were
getting.
Nothing
quite
since
fear,
through
a
superintendent
like
increased
construction
costs
when
they're
starting
a
project,
I've
gotten
that
call
so
many
times.
I
have
literally
forgotten
who
I've
spoken
to
about
which
project,
because
it's
been
the
same
conversation
you
know
they
were
ready
to
go.
D
D
You
know
not
too
surprising
here,
but
the
reason
I
want
to
include
that
and
then
jump
into
this
one
same
information,
new
school
building
constructions,
just
a
shorter
time
frame.
You
know
sort
of
pre
pandemic
and
then
you
know
sort
of
like
where
we
are
now.
You
can
see
the
significant
increase,
and
you
know
this
tells
you
part
of
the
story.
D
Of
course,
with
you
know,
everything
it
just
depends
on
where
you
are
and
what
you're
building,
but
we
felt
this
was
important
to
include-
and
one
thing
I
want
to
include
on
the
end
of
this
presentation
is
just
some
examples.
These
are
recent
ones.
These
are
people
who
I
actually
spoke
to
and
reached
out
to.
D
I
could
probably
spend
the
next
month
getting
more
and
more
examples
of
these
projects,
but
I
thought
these
were
fairly
indicative
of
the
topic
of
the
day
menifee
county
as
one
a
district
were
pretty
close
with
because
they
were
in
estate
management
a
few
years
ago
and
very
happily,
are
basically
on
their
own
now
and
doing
fantastic,
and
you
know
menifee
county
needed
to
build
a
new
board
office.
D
So
this
is
going
to
be
some
new
construction,
this
one
about
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
in
august
of
21,
not
quite
a
year
later,
those
estimates
jumped
up
to
three
and
a
half
million,
and
so
I
was
speaking
with
their
finance
officer
and
they
actually
removed
some
work
to
save
a
bit
of
money.
They
removed
the
basement
out
of
this
building,
which
was
going
to
be
for
storage
and
removed
it
to
save
some
money,
and
so
again
that
decision
point
of
well.
You
know
how
do
we
do
this?
D
You
know
how
do
we
afford
this,
so
that
was
basically,
they
cut
part
of
the
building
out
quite
literally
round
county
rod
burn
elementary.
This
is
a
renovation.
In
addition,
this
one
wasn't
too
severe,
but
I
think
it's
you
know
again
november
of
21
through
march.
That's
not
a
very
long
time
frame
and
it
still
went
up
quite
a
bit.
You
know
not
quite
a
million
dollars,
but
it's
getting
there
and,
in
speaking
with
their
finance
officer,
they
did
expect
future
revisions
to
estimates
to
increase
the
cost.
D
So
again,
you
know
this.
One
didn't
shock
me
too
much
and
christian
county
and
I've
got
some
updated
information
on
this
one.
Actually,
I
think,
as
of
like
two
days
ago,
this
christian
county
had
two
high
schools.
They
determined
their
local
planning
committee
went
through
the
district
facilities
planning
process
that
we
talked
about
earlier,
and
the
board
approved
their
district
facility
plan,
and
part
of
that
was,
is
to
consolidate
their
two
high
schools
into
one.
D
So
the
initial
estimate
was
around
107
million
117
a
couple
months
later,
and
you
push
out
just
a
few
months
later
and
it's
up
to
about
137
million
and
just
about
two
days
ago,
their
bids
came
in.
I
think
it
was
193
million
dollars,
so
I
just
saw
I
think
this
morning
I
read
it
that
they're
actually
going
to
review
their
bids
and
they
may.
I
think
they
were
basically
reviewing
them
to
see.
D
If
they
can,
you
know,
send
the
bids
back
for
a
review
or
reject,
or
I'm
not
sure
what
their
next
step
is
on
that
one,
but
obviously
to
go
from
107
million
to
193
granted.
This
is
a
large
project
consolidating
two
high
schools.
This
is
going
to
be
a
very
large
high
school,
but
still
that's
a
just
a
massive
increase,
and
in
talking
with
the
district
you
know
I
asked
them.
Quite
frankly,
you
know
what
they
thought
their
issues
were
and,
of
course
we
always
talk
about
material.
D
You
know
steel,
concrete,
just
everything
that
goes
into
building
a
building
as
well
as
labor,
but
one
thing
he
mentioned,
that
was
one
of
their
major
issues.
Was
timing
and
traveling
back
in
time.
In
hindsight,
being
what
it
was
christian
county
tried
to
pass
a
nickel.
It
was
not
successful,
so
they
had
to
kind
of
wait
to
figure
out
their
funding
and
to
see
if
they
could
do
it.
And
you
know
you
never
know.
If
that
nickel
had
passed,
they
may
have
been
able
to
start
sooner
obviously
and
save
some
money.
D
But
of
course
you
know
hindsight
being
what
it
is.
It's
always
easy
to
look
back
at
that,
but
this
one
I
thought
just
stood
out
as
a
pretty
wild
example
of
how
the
costs
have
just
really
exceeded
any
expectations.
I
think
with
all
good
intent.
You
know
they.
They
really
want
to
do
this
project.
I
know,
and
it's
just
gotten
very
expensive
in
a
hurry,
and
I
think
the
last
example
I
have
is
woodford
county,
which
is
right
next
door
to
frankfurt.
Of
course,
so
many
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
their
high
school.
D
It
sits
there
right
on
the
main
highway.
As
you
come
into
town-
and
you
know
in
july
of
19
was
about
a
36
million
dollar
project.
They
too
were
trying
to
pass
a
nickel
and
they
just
couldn't
quite
get
it
through.
So
they
did
some
work
on
their
finances
and
were
able
eventually
to
get
it
to
a
point
where
they
could
afford
to
build
this
high
school.
But
in
that
time
you
know
it's
practically
doubled.
D
D
So
again,
to
kind
of
summarize
all
this
construction
costs
you
know,
can
exceed
this
bonding
potential
pretty
easily,
and
that
district
facility
plan
is
an
incredibly
important
document
to
me.
It's
always
painted
the
picture
of
every
district.
We
have
171
of
them
of
what
they
want.
Their
future
to
look
like-
and
you
know
these
are
such
serious
investments-
big,
huge
investments.
D
You
know
they
have
to
make
decisions
if,
if
the
cost
is
too
much
much
like
us,
if
we
were
to
build
a
house-
and
our
builder
comes
back
to
us
and
say
well,
bad
news,
lumber
went
up
and
you're
gonna
have
to
do
make
some
decisions.
You
know
those
decisions
may
mean
you
reduce
the
scope
of
the
project.
You
may
not
build
that
garage.
Well,
they
may
not.
You
know,
get
that
basement
in
menifee
county.
It's
the
same
concept.
D
They
may
have
to
do
it
in
phases.
You
know
we
might
have
to
add
the
garage
in
a
couple
years.
When
we
get
some
money
saved
up
in
some
cases
they
may
shelve
the
project
altogether.
I
know
fayette
county
had
a
middle
school
when
they
got
the
bids.
They
just
you
know
kind
of
walked
away
from
it
for
a
bit.
D
I
think,
and
now
I
believe
now-
they've
kind
of
kind
of
gone
back
to
see
if
they
could
do
it
or
build
this
middle
school,
but
these
are
tough
decisions,
because
obviously
we
can't
predict
what
construction
costs
will
look
like
in
a
year
or
two
years,
five
years
et
cetera
districts
are
putting
in
local
effort
and
that's
a
we
feel
is
an
important
part
of
this
process,
and
but
some
districts
are
putting
in
more
than
local
effort,
they're,
putting
double
and
triple
local
effort.
You
know
more
their
taxes
going
towards
these
projects.
D
D
D
So
every
project's
a
little
bit
different
size
is
important,
obviously,
and
driving
by
some
of
the
schools
around
here,
and
I
see
them
doing
work
you
know.
Sometimes
these
projects
take
a
very
short
amount
of
time,
sometimes
there's
simple,
renovations
and
other
times
they're
very
involved,
huge
projects
which
you
know
once
they're
committed
to
it.
It's
it's
just.
You
know
it
takes
a
long
time
to
finish
these
up.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
thorough
presentation,
I'll
open
it
up
to
questions.
First
before
I
have
mine
representative
mccool,.
E
Outstanding
job
of
the
overall
view
on
how
this
these
projects
work,
but-
and
you
mentioned
this
within
your
presentation,
but
I
want
to
kind
of
drill
down
in
on
probably
12
to
14
schools.
As
I
understand
it,.
E
They've
got
the
equalization
passed
to
the
legislative
twice,
but
due
to
inflation
and
high
cost
construction
materials
and
whatever
they're
there
still
has
a
gap
there
and,
and-
and
you
may
not
have
it
for
this
presentation-
then
that's
fine,
so
it
will
just
include
it
in
the
next
meeting.
Hopefully,
madam
chair
will
agree
with
that
that
you
bring
forth
those
schools
the
cost.
What
I'm
looking
for
is
is
those
schools,
those
12
to
14
and
again,
that
number
may
change.
E
D
Yes,
so
there
we
can
pull
that
information
together
and
take
us
a
little
time,
because
we
want
to
reach
out
and
get
some
more
recent
estimates
it's
kind
of
a
moving
target.
So
we
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
we
get
this
list
together
that
you
know
what
numbers
they
give
me
will
check
with
their
fiscal
agents
as
well
and
what
they
expect
the
gap
to
be,
and
I
know
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
gap
in
funding
and,
like
you
said,
I
think
you
put
it
very
well.
D
The
districts
have
done
everything
they
can
do
locally,
and
you
know,
quite
frankly,
the
state
has
will
be
equalizing
that
effort,
but
still
again,
it's
just
not
enough
to
reach
that
sort
of
the
hurdles
moved
a
little
higher,
which
has
been
beyond
everyone's
control.
Here
that
you
know,
costs
have
gone
up,
but
we
will
absolutely
get
you
that
list
of
districts.
E
E
Does
that
mean
as
a
plan
on
these,
and
we
need
to
know
this
too?
What
they're
going
to
do
with
the
old
building?
If
they
keep
it,
then
they
got
to
maintain
the
cost
of
the
upkeep
of
the
building.
If
they
demolish
it,
then
that
does
away
with
that.
So
there
may
be
some
need
a
reason
they
need
to
keep
it,
and
I
understand
that.
But
that
needs
to
be
on
this
report
as
well.
E
D
We
work
with
the
kentucky
center
for
school
safety
as
well
as
housing
building
codes,
and
that's
that
will
be
something
that
we
will.
You
know
I'll
kind
of
get
a
package
together
on
that
as
well.
So
any
new
construction,
of
course
you
know
renovations,
are
a
little
different,
but
you
know
the
there
and
this
gets
into
some
previous
budgets,
but
there
was
funding
out
there
for
some
changes
to
like
vestibules
and
more
security
focused
stuff,
but
a
new
construction.
I
believe
it's
required
of
these
projects
and
that
gets
into
I'm
sorry.
D
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
it:
it's
crime,
prevention,
it's
part
of
the
and
I'll
get
you
some
more
information
on
that.
But
absolutely
we
will
work
with
kentucky
center
for
school
safety
to
make
sure
all
that's
included.
E
A
D
I,
I
think,
that's
a
re,
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
statement.
I
think
they're
either
at
the
very
what
I
would
call
the
shovels
hitting
the
ground
or
has
hit
the
ground
it's
it's
kind
of
at
that
point
where
it's
you
know,
jump
or
not.
I
think
I'm
looking
through
some
of
it.
This
is
a
really
rough
draft
of
the
list,
but
I
believe
I
know
one
has
probably
gotten
started,
but
the
rest
of
them
look
like
they're,
probably
just
kind
of
waiting
to
see
if
they
can
afford
the
rest
of
projects.
So.
B
B
You
know-
and
I
understand
the
concept
of
inflation,
but
have
we
looked
at
maybe
reevaluating
those
formulas
a
little
bit
in
the
sense
that,
just
because
the
price,
the
materials
go
up
doesn't
necessarily
mean
the
cost
of
managing
the
project
itself
has
gone
up.
You
know
what
I'm
saying,
and
it
also
right
on
some
incentive
to
maybe
make
a
more
expensive
school
or
apply
for
more
change.
Orders.
B
Have
we
looked
at
at
kind
of
maybe
reevaluating
some
of
those
criteria
on
these
on
these
projects.
D
Yes
and
one
of
the
things
we're
reviewing
as
part
of
that
house,
bill
678,
which
is,
I
didn't
really
put
much
in
that
slideshow
about
it-
was
the
the
requirement
that
kde
is
reviewing
all
of
our
regulations
as
it
relates
to
construction
inside
those
regulations
are
a
lot
of
documents,
some
of
which
get
into
construction
management
fees
and
things
like
that,
so
we're
reviewing
how
those
are
set,
and
we
really,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
this
is
a
collective.
We
really
want
districts
to
negotiate
to
the
extent
possible.
D
You
know
there's
language
in
one
of
the
regulations
about
they
shall
negotiate
architect
fees
and
we
find
that
to
be
important
because,
just
like
you
and
I,
if
we
hire
a
builder,
you
know
we
may
negotiate
because
we're
doing
you
know
hey
we're
going
to
make
this
a
little
easier
on
you
or
you
know
we.
We
know
you
want
this
project
very
badly.
D
You
may
have
a
little
more
leverage
to
negotiate
and,
and
that
to
me
is
a
very
fair
way
because
districts
obviously
are
you
know,
free
to
work
with
those
construction
firms
that
they
feel
comfortable
with
and
negotiate.
Those
fees
sort
of
like
with
your
auditors
and
people
like
that
and
for
other
professional
services.
So
I
think
that's
very
well
worth
looking
into
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
review
process
that
we
complete
with
house
bill
678
as
well.
B
A
D
So
that
is
a
couple.
Actually,
I
think
it's
two
line
items
are
the
two.
I
usually
look
at
there's
one
called
additional
offers
of
assistance,
and
this
is
in
the
last
budget,
I'm
going
to
say
85
million
dollars,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
big
chunk
that
they
based
on
the
percentage
of
need
that
the
offers
are
made
to
districts.
D
One
and
two
you
know,
so
you
need
to
address
your
ones
if
you
will
so
this
is
a
little
more
focused.
I
think
that's
the
best
way
of
kind
of
putting
it
is
that
when
the
money
comes
from
school
facilities,
construction,
commission,
it's
pointing
to
a
higher
priority
and
if
they're
not
ready
to
address
that
they
can
sort
of
delay
taking
that
offer,
and
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
turn
it
down,
because
it's
really
they're
just
saying
we're
not
quite
ready
to
start
this
project.
D
So
you
know
we'll
just
leave
that
offer
on
the
table
for
now
and
then
there's
another
chunk
in
the
budget
for
special
offers
of
assistance.
It's
right
below
that
and
for
context.
Let's
see
it's
page
34
of
the
budget
house
bill
1
the
last
budget
that
I
don't
know
the
total
there,
because
it's
not
totaled
up
for
me,
but
I
want
to
say
that
was
it
was
well
over
100
million.
D
I
can't
recall,
but
that's
the
special
offers
they
did,
one
for
bath
county
middle
bellevue
or
grandview
elementary
in
bellevue
cannonsburg
elementary
in
boyd
county
grants,
lick
and
campbell
county
campbellsville
middle
school
things
like
that.
So
that's
where
you
get
a
little
more
specific
to
the
schools
rather
than
here's
a
you
know.
Here's
here's
the
pie
for
everyone,
then
there's
the
the
group
that
needs
that
special
offer
of
assistance
for
whatever
various
reasons
they
have.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
What
I
think
I'm
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
here
and
it
sounds
like
maybe
we'll
get
a
report
back
and
we
can
perhaps
go
over
it
at
our
next
meeting.
What
our
co-chair
mccool
was
saying.
A
If
we
have
school
construction
funds
normally
coming
through
but
they're,
not
enough,
then
it
could
either
be
a.
You
know,
one-off
budget
committee
decision.
Oh,
we
need
to
add
money
to
the
fund
or
you
know
this
body
may
need
to
look
at
stuff
like
we
do
maintenance
pools
and
things
like
that.
You
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
an
additional
type
of
an
item
that
we
consider
in
our
next
plan
to
present
so
that
it
gets
attention,
because
this
kind
of
thing,
I
doubt,
is
going
away.
A
A
Okay,
none
thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us.
Mr
ritter,
appreciate
your
detailed
presentation
and
look
forward
to
getting
those
other
questions
and
be
in
touch.
If
there's
anything
else,.
A
A
A
couple
of
things
came
to
my
mind.
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
throw
them
in
here.
Our
policy
recommendations
at
the
beginning
of
our
capital
planning
report
every
year
have
remained
semi-stable
for
the
last
at
least
few
rounds
and
and
more
than
that,
even
but
it's
it's
the
three
things
that
we
have
done.
A
One
is
the
budget
reserve
trust
fund,
that's
our
priority
one,
and
you
can
see
obviously
this
year,
it's
all
over
the
place,
because
we
have
federal
funds
and
things
that
have
changed
that,
but
our
priority
says
we
want
to
shoot
for
five
percent
and
I'm
told
that
we're
going
to
have
those
numbers
in
time
for
the
next
meetings.
We
want
to
review
that
because
we've
never
yet
seen
other
than
the
extra
slush
funding
from
the
federal
side
of
things
where
we're
at
right.
Now,
we've
never
seen
that
five
percent
realized
actually
accomplished.
A
So
that's
something
we
probably
want
to
keep
on
our
radar,
but
the
other
policy
items
we
also
have
are
the
maintenance
pools
which
we're
finally,
starting
to
see,
like
I
said,
we're
doing
bond
funds
for
the
cbe
mains
pools.
That
concerns
me,
because
maintenance
pools
and
bond
funds
just
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
as
long-standing
long-term
policy.
So
we
want
to
look
at
that
in
next
meeting
will
hopefully
have
more
information
on
that
as
well
and
then.
Finally,
the
other
policy
priority
we
have
is
the
let's
see
budget
reserve
maintenance
pool
I've.
A
It's
escaped
me
and
I've
got
it
on
my
list
here
and
I'm
out
of
order
here
on
my
list,
but
anyway,
the
item
that
senator
wheeler
just
brought
up-
and
I
want
to
bounce
off
of
this-
he
was
asking
about
criteria
for
the
construction
management
fees.
Then
we
just
heard
about
architects
all
these
type
of
things.
A
Preparing
for
next
year
is
what
type
of
a
policy
priority
do
we
want
to
put
or
what
kind
of
statements
do
we
want
to
put
out
there,
as
as
people
are
bringing
us
projects,
because
if
you
recall
this
is
not
the
first
time
it's
happened,
but
last
year
we
had
an
agency
request
and
the
question
was
you
know:
can
you
do
this
for
less
money
and
they
said?
Oh
of
course
we
can.
We've
got
different
levels
of
plans.
A
So
another
policy
item
we
might
want
to
consider
is:
do
we
want
these
agencies
to
specify
whether
their
project
has
different
tiers
phases
or
whatnot
that
can
be
broken
out?
How
it
would
be
broken
out?
Some
things
are
just
lump
sum
you
just
can't
get
around
it
and
others
there's
all
kinds
of
flexibility
and
we're
talking
about
limited
funds
all
the
time.
A
You
know
something
we're
always
wondering
is:
could
we
just
give
you
this
much
and
that
would
get
you
down
the
road
and
someone
else
would
get
their
priority
taken
too.
So
at
staff's
recommendation.
I
am
thinking
this
is
a
good
idea.
We
can
maybe
send
out
a
survey
if
you
all
don't
want
to
discuss
that
they
have
meeting
time
discussing,
but
your
thoughts
on
you
know
where
you
would
like
to
focus
as
we
prepare
for
the
next
year's
agency
spending
plan.
A
What
things
like
that
that
you
would
think.
Oh,
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
this.
Take
a
look
at
that.
So
staff
can
prepare
data
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
and
maybe
roll
into,
our
policy
considerations
for
our
next
biennial
report.
C
Thank
you.
Madam
chairs,
you've
talked
about
the
budget
reserve
trust
fund.
Last
year
we
achieved
over
10
percent
as
as
a
target,
and
here
in
next
week,
you're
going
to
hear
a
much
larger
number.
A
And
he's
going
to
have
the
secret
information
before
we
all
have
it
and
we
will
make
sure
you
review
it
at
our
next
meeting,
which
is
not
until
september
14th.
This
is
scheduled
at
10
a.m.
Right
here
again,
any
other
thoughts
or
motion
to
adjourn.