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C
Good
morning,
how
are
you
guys,
thanks
for
being
here
with
us
this
morning,
senator
southworth,
welcome
and
we'll
give
you
a
second
to
get
settled
there
and
we
are
on
number
43
from
the
deferred
list
from
last
month,
which
is
you
had
questions
on.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
If
you
all
could
I
know
we
talked
about
holding
off,
because
I
think
we
had
some
questions
and
we
didn't
really
have
answers
so
I'll.
Just
let
you
kind
of
take
off
from
there
and
see
if
there's
anything
else,
we
have
sure.
D
So
this
is
just
one
opportunity
to
expand
the
community
health
worker
model.
That's
been
so
effective
in
our
state.
We've
been,
of
course,
working
with
homeplace
and
fran
feltner,
who
has
a
long
history
in
kentucky
of
community
health
workers
and
making
sure
that
those
community
health
workers
are
connecting
persons
in
those
communities
to
services.
So
kentucky
was
in
a
unique
opportunity
to
get
some
federal
funding
to
expand
that
across
our
state
to
make
sure
that
all
kentuckians
have
access
to
having
a
community
health
worker
in
their
community.
D
So
this
funding
has
allowed
us
to
put
an
rfa
out
to
ask
communities
to
look
at
their
unmet
needs
within
those
communities
and
apply
for
funding
to
have
a
community
health
worker.
So
this
has
allowed
us
to
extend
this
to
western
kentucky,
which
was
an
underserved
area
based
on
data
and
northern
kentucky.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
for
all
kentuckians
to
take
advantage
of
this
model.
That's
been
exemplary
for
our
state.
B
D
This
is
a
pilot,
and
this
school
had
identified
that
this
was
a
need
that
they
had
some
students
who
had
expressed
some
concern
that
their
voices
weren't
being
heard
and
that
they
had
some
issues
that
they
wanted
to
have
a
safe
space.
A
safe
place
to
have
those
conversations,
and
this
community
health
worker
would
be
that
person.
D
C
F
C
G
H
C
B
C
C
C
I
C
All
right
good
morning,
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
fine
day,
we'll
start
off
with
number
59
and
60
on
the
green
list.
I
have
a
question
on
59.
Senator
southworth
has
questions
in
the
number
60.
starting
with
59,
my
question's.
Simply
this
I've
looked
through.
We
have
other
contracts,
we're
spending
several
million
dollars
working
on
the
test
and
then
we're
spending
1.4
million
dollars
for
the
validity
of
those
tests
just
curious.
Do
we
really
need
to
you
know
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
these
tests?
H
Subsection
14
requires
a
third
party
check
of
the
state
assessment
accountability
system.
So
hum
row
has
been
our
third
party
vendor
for
a
number
of
years.
This
was
competitively
bid
about
four
years
ago.
This
is
the
last
two
year
renewal
that
is
processing
through
to
you
today.
So
we
do
have
state
law.
H
That
requires
a
really
a
follow
behind
on
some
of
the
validity
issues,
as
well
as
the
quality
assurance
that
the
scores
students
receive
are
accurate,
as
well
as
the
categories
for
school
performance
and
in
addition,
we
have
some
federal
requirements
in
order
to
have
approved
system
to
release
title
funds
to
the
state,
you
must
do
some
independent
alignment,
studies
that
are
separate
from
your
test
vendor
and
from
the
department
of
education
and
humro
fulfills
that
need
with
us
as
well.
H
C
Perfect
you've
answered
my
questions,
I'd
like
to
vote
on
59
and
60.
At
the
same
time,
so
senator
southworth
I'll,
ask
you
let
you
ask
your
questions
on
60.
B
Oh,
we
thank
you.
This
is,
I
think
we
had
this
one.
Maybe
it
was
last
month
or
something
that
was
a
little
piece,
and
I
have
failed
to
find
my
notes
on
how
much
we
paid
for
maybe
a
month
or
whatever,
but
we
discussed
a
little
bit
last
time
and
now
we're
at
three
million
dollars
this
time,
and
it
seems
like
to
me
that
we
have
a
lot
of
talking
about
the
same
thing
and
I
we've
got
piles
of
contracts
around
here.
All
the
same
keywords
are
in
the
contracts.
B
I
I
I
J
The
great
work
work
that
we
are
doing
here
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky
and
senator
senator
southworth
you're
right
on
the
money.
It
is
layers
and
what
these
layers
mean
that
we
have
to
get
folks
involved.
We
have
to
have
parents
involved,
we
have
to
have
school
districts
involved,
we
have
to
have
teachers
involved,
we
have
to
have
students
involved
and
we
have
to
have
the
state
department
of
ed
involved.
J
If
we
kentucky
will
be
the
leaders
to
be
the
first
to
make
some
meaningful
changes
to
these
to
these
things
that
have
really
kept
public
education
in
our
students
from
succeeding
at
the
levels
we
want
them
to
do
it.
It
takes
an
entire
village,
and
so
that
explains
why
there
are
multiple
layers.
And
again,
I
will
say
to
you:
it
begins
with
our
teachers
and
our
families.
J
As
well,
this
is
the
same
contract
that
we
brought
to
you
all
a
couple
weeks
ago,
as
mrs
worth
mentioned,
we
have
not
expended
any
of
this
money,
the
same
contract
again
that
you
all
approved
the
time
before,
and
I
believe
the
time
before
that
I
explained
to
you
all
in
regards
to
how
this
playbook
would
work,
that
it
is
a
multi-year.
J
It's
a
multi-year
initiative,
that's
being
funded
by
federal
funds,
and
it
is
the
first
in
the
country
again
where
our
folks
have
extolled
the
difficulties
of
closing
these
opportunity
gaps.
We
now
can
take
that
off
the
plate
of
our
six
of
our
45
000
teachers,
plus
administrators
and
support
staff
here
in
the
commonwealth,
because
we're
going
to
give
them
research-based
tools
to
address
five
of
the
most
pressing
needs
in
closing
these
opportunity
gaps.
J
I
hope
that
chair
cook
and
maybe
other
members
of
our
government
contract
review
committee,
received
a
copy
of
our
news
release
that
talked
about.
We
launched
this
equity
playbook
in
earnest
on
july
7th.
Just
last
week
we
have
over
70
7-0
public
school
districts
across
the
entire
commonwealth,
rural
urban,
suburban,
you
name
it
who
are
taking
part
and
again
they
have
volunteered
to
take
part
in
this
initiative
to
use
a
coaching
model
to
use
a
holistic
model
to
address
areas
of
student
achievement
better.
J
Looking
at
funding
taking
a
closer
look
at
funding,
disproportionality
relative
to
student
discipline
and
placement
in
courses,
culture
and
climate
and
looking
at
the
great
promise
of
ensuring
that
we
have
effective
staff.
One
of
you,
members
mentioned
how
important
staff
and
parents
are
so
we're,
also
asking
our
school
districts
to
take
a
more
close
look
at
a
closer
look
at
utilizing,
effective
staff
and,
of
course,
high
quality,
instructional
resources.
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
talk
about
that.
A
little
later.
B
K
I
I
Yes,
the
contract
is
through
june
30th
of
2024..
What.
J
I
can
answer
that
question
we
are
building
and
I
want
to
answer
senator
southwark's
question
and
she
has
this
very
legitimate
concern,
and
maybe
I'm
not
doing
a
good
job
of
answering
that
concern
regarding
continuity.
We
are
building
up
continuity
right
now.
We
are
working
one
from
the
very
onset
to
ensure
that
we
are
measuring
the
effectiveness
of
this
equity
playbook.
J
It's
all
part
of
the
launch
and
we're
working
closely
with
our
partners
at
our
eight
educational
co-ops,
to
help
us
to
continue
funding
this
initiative
and
to
ensure
that
once
these
funds
are
exhausted,
that
they
are
able
to
keep
these
programs
and
keep
more
importantly,
staff
in
place
to
ensure
that
each
one
of
our
647
000
students
is
afforded
a
level
playing
field
to
be
successful
so
to
again
address
senator
southward's
very
important
question
about
continuity,
we're
building
that
in
right
now,
with
our
aid
co-ops
and
with
our
partners,
we
we
also
have
a
community
engagement
staff
member
who
is
working
with
various
community
organizations
to
help
support
us.
J
One
organization
that
helps
support
this
work
is
the
chief
counsel
of
school
officers
and
so
we're
working
with
ccs's
state
school
officers,
we're
working
with
ccsso,
with
additional
funding
additional
grant
funding
to
keep
these
initiatives
in
place,
and
I
would
hope-
and
I
think
hope
is
a
good
word-
that
when
school
districts
and
schools
see
how
important
this
work
is
that
we
are
encouraging
that
we
are
committed
to
all
of
our
students,
regardless
of
their
ethnic
background,
regardless
of
the
socio-economic
status
of
language
spoken
at
home.
K
K
I
I
my
question,
wasn't
answered
so
I'll.
Ask
a
couple:
more
is
the
purpose
of
this
to
even
the
playing
field
or
even
the
outcome.
J
By
even
by
leveling
the
playing
field,
we
will
have
greater
outcomes,
we'll
have
level
outcomes
there's
no.
If
and
but
it's
about
it
again,
that's
it.
This
is
research
based.
Okay,.
K
With
all
due
respect,
I
I
have
to
I
have
to
respectfully
disagree
with
you,
mr
chairman,
if
I'm
out.
C
K
K
K
Just
because
we
provide
an
even
playing
field,
doesn't
make
outcomes
equal
and
you
can
look
at
sports
and
see
that
the
football
field
is
is,
is
a
is
an
even
playing
field
and
the
coaches
bring
in
bring
in
players,
but
because,
but
there
are
different,
those
those
players
have
different
amounts
of
abilities,
and
so
I
I
think
sometimes
we
shoot
ourselves
in
the
foot
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
equal
outcomes
when
when,
when
we're
shooting
at
something
we're
simply
not
going
to
attain
and-
and
that's
what
kind
of
concerns
me
about
this
particular
contract,
what
what
I
want
to
know
is
to
whom
you
talked
about
collecting
the
data
to
whom
is
that
data
reported.
J
Before
I
answer
that
question
I'll
briefly,
say
you
respectfully,
you
misunderstood,
I
said
by
leveling
the
playing
field.
We
can
begin
to
see
more
level
outcomes,
I
didn't
say,
guaranteed
outcomes,
level
outcomes,
but
to
answer
your
question
here
very
quickly,
relative
to
the
data.
The
data
are
data
strictly
for
those
particular
school
districts.
J
It's
not
going
to
be
shared
with
some
big
data
collection,
company
or
some
big
data
outlet.
The
data
are
for
those
school
districts,
in
particular
those
teachers
and
what
has
set
kentucky
apart
is
the
fact
that
we
have
one
student
information
system.
As
I
said
months
ago,
it's
called
infinite
campus
infinite
campus
can
allow
us
to
make
changes
immediately
and
that's
the
problem
with
a
lot
of
assessments,
they're
in
the
rears
in
kentucky,
we
can
change
disproportionality.
F
F
F
I
am
concerned
for
any
kind
of
argument
to
say
that
this
would
somehow
produce
level
outcomes,
because
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
in
this
senate
body
or
there
that
will
do
that,
but
to
make
sure
that
there's
opportunities,
given
that
we
have
less
children,
fall
between
the
cracks
when
we
have
federal
money
to
help
us
do
that,
I
think,
is
a
positive.
I
mean
for
that.
You
know
before
this.
C
C
K
If
I
may,
mr
chair
are,
are
we
voting
on
60
or
59.
C
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair
explain
my
vote.
Yes,
sir.
K
K
Trying
to
make
everybody
even
senator
yates
mentioned
the
word.
K
Opportunity
starts
at
home
opportunity
shouldn't
start
just
in
school,
and
I
know
you
you
talked
about
bringing
in
parents
and
and
and
all
that
sounds
wonderful
when
we're
sitting
here
and
listening
to
this,
but
in
the
real
world,
are
we
really
doing
that
and-
and
I'm
gonna
be
watching
this
very
very
closely,
if
I'm
still
on
this
committee
when
it
comes
back
around,
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
utilizing
the
commonwealth,
the
commonwealth's
taxpayers.
K
E
I
too
have
some
reservations.
I
think
it's
very
important.
I
think
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
like
most
things,
the
devil's
in
the
details
of
how
this
rollout
goes,
and
this
is
a
new
thing
and
we
just
don't
know
right
now,
so
I
I
am
going
to
vote
yesterday,
but
I
do
have
reservations.
Thank
you.
B
E
Let
me
see
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote.
My
votes
no
and
I
I
was
a
little
confused.
I
thought
we
were
on
59
or
I
probably
would
have
second
into
motion
to
disapprove,
but
my
vote
is
no
so.
L
Yes,
you
know
everyone,
that's
sitting
here
in
this
room
today,
probably
he
more
than
anyone
has
been
there
done
that,
and
I
looked
to
him
on
numerous
occasions
to
leave
me
guide
me
directly
in
these
issues.
I'll
be
quite
candid,
my
concern
is
when
the
day
is
done,
that
this
won't
have
any
return
on
investment
whatsoever.
L
I
had
a
college
professor.
It
always
described
it
as
we're
measuring
the
number
of
wing
flaps
per
pound
of
bird
seed,
and
I
think
this
is
another
exercise
and
that
we're
not
addressing
the
core
issues
which
incentive
yates
and
gave
some
acknowledgment
to,
and
we
keep
kind
of
chasing
our
tail
but
again
I'll
vote
yes
on
this,
but
I
share
the
same
reservations
as
my
colleagues.
Thank
you.
C
I'll
follow
senator
douglas
lead
I'll
vote.
I
motion
carries
okay.
Now
we
have
we
have.
This
is
contract
59.,
just
so
everyone's
clear.
I
was
going
to
try
to
run
those
two
together,
but
we
had
a
motion
disproved
so
we
separated
them.
This
will
be
looking
for
a
motion
to
approve.
C
Aye
motion
carries
okay,
we
are
now
moving
we're
going
to
go
from
the
green
sheet
to
the
pink
sheet.
We
got
numbers
295,
305
and
348..
I
B
Thank
you.
I
actually
might
not
have
a
whole
lot
of
programmatic
questions
on
295,
particularly
because
I
was
late
getting
the
contract
and
I
my
understanding
was
that
the
pricing
was
different
than
what
it
is
so
that
I
think,
is
pretty
much
the
same
thing.
I've
already
talked
about
all
the
different
layers,
and
this
is
just
more
of
that
renewing,
but
I'd
like
to
go
to
305.
E
C
E
C
Aye
motion
carries
295
moves
forward
center,
southworth
305.
B
Okay,
305,
this
deeper
learning
initiative
says
that
most
of
the
schools
in
this
or
most
of
districts
in
the
state
have
voluntarily
indicated
interest
or
whatever,
and
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
this
always
concerns
me
when
we
have
these
voluntary
sign-ins,
usually
whenever
there's
federal
funds
involved
and
it's
a
voluntary
thing,
that
means
we
can't
mandate
it
and
we
can't
mandate
it
for
some
legal
reason,
and
so
usually
that
means
this
is
over
the
edge
and
I'm
giving
you
broad
strokes
here,
but
in
kentucky's
constitution
we
also
require
that
funding
be
even
to
different
districts,
and
these
things
always
freak
me
out,
because
we've
got
federal
grants
that
can't
force
things
on
us,
so
they
have
to
put
carrots
on
sticks
and
we
have
a
constitution
that
I
feel
like
it's
trampled
on
half
the
time
because
we're
pushing
grant
money
around
when
it's
not
official
funding,
therefore
doesn't
have
to
be.
E
And
by
the
way,
mr
chair,
I'm
david
cook,
I'm
the
director
of
innovation,
the
division
of
innovation
at
department
of
education
and
this
grant
falls
in
my.
Thank
you,
sir.
Welcome
to
the
committee
hi
senator
southworth.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
First
of
all,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
all
171
districts
did
did
are
participating.
So
all
the
districts
are
involved,
so
not
just
like
165
of
them,
but
all
of
them
and
the
the
way
the
funds
are
being
allocated
and,
as
you
know,
you're
looking
this
contract
that
was
pulled
was
one
of
seven.
E
So
each
co-op
has
a
contract
with
amounts
of
money.
Each
district
is
b
is
receiving
their
portion
of
those
funds,
basically
based
on
ada,
so
they're,
getting
in
essence,
everybody's
getting
what
they're
supposed
to
get.
So,
if
I
have
a
district
of
5
000
students,
I'm
getting
what
I'm
supposed
to
get.
If
I
have
a
800
students,
I'm
getting
my
portion
of
this
larger
amount
of
money.
C
G
C
Aye
motion
carries
number
348
on
the
routine
moa
pink
list.
Senator
southworth.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
check
in
because
it
there
were
a
number
of
different
ones
that
I've
seen
it.
I
can't
keep
up
with
where
we're
at
on
the
various
life
cycles
of
the
academic
standards
and
and
other
contracts.
We
see
okay,
we're
currently
working
on
the
film
blank
social
studies,
standards
and
these
five
people
have
contracts
and
they're
working
on
that,
and
we
have
this
contract
with
the
outfit,
and
I
forget,
alexandria
or
somewhere,
new
york
somebody's
overseeing
the
project
management.
B
I
So
so,
excuse
me
senator
southworth.
This
is
what
we
refer
to
as
a
personnel
moa
and
a
lot
of
times.
The
department
of
education
will
need
a
specialized
service
that
school
district
personnel
can
can
provide
to
us,
and
this
this
is
a
contract
with
shelby
county,
and
this
contract
will
hire
this
person
for
the
at
the
department
of
education
to
bring
their
expertise
in
this
area
to
the
department.
They
will
still
be
an
employee
of
shelby
county,
but
they
will
be
doing
work
specialized
for
us
at
the
department.
G
G
We
also
have
158.6451,
which
is
the
model
curriculum
framework,
and
we
have
done
much
work
in
improving
the
quality
of
that
model
curriculum
framework
over
the
last
two
years,
and
in
fact
yesterday
there
was
an
update
that
improves
usability,
and
this
particular
consultant
also
will
be
working
on
that
to
help
support
district
level
staff
and
understanding
the
model
curriculum
framework
that
would
then
be
communicated
to
administrators
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Throughout
a
school
building.
C
C
C
G
Yes,
sir,
all
health
insurance
companies,
whether
they
provide
our
traditional
health
insurance
or
what
we
call
our
non-mandated
benefits
and
those
would
be
like
limited
lines,
vision,
dental
medicare
sup.
So
we
have
broken
these
into
two
contracts.
One
is
for
just
our
traditional
health
plans.
The
other
is
to
review
long-term
care,
medical,
the
riders
to
life,
insurance,
limited
vision
and
dental
and
various
other
little
products.
C
C
C
Hey
good
morning,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us
following
a
little
bit
of
center
emeritus
lead
on
this.
C
I
learned
a
lot
when
he
did
it
with
the
university
of
kentucky
just
seems
like
a
few
months
ago
we
pulled
their
legal
contracts
and
actually
reported
back
to
us
on
how
much
of
the
money
they're
actually
using
on
those
contracts,
and
so
that's
my
question,
because
this
is
my
first
round
going
through
the
every
other
year
process
on
all
these
legal
contracts,
and
I
understand
you're
just
putting
out
there
because
it's
a
legal
matter-
and
you
know
don't
have
time
to
do
the
rfp
process
for
every
little
one,
but
would
very
much
like
some
feedback
on
how
much
of
these
individual
contracts.
C
H
Yes,
I
have
our
payments
pulled
up,
so
it
looks
like
for
the
for
the
first
one
for
the
sites
harvesting
contract
43
000
were
used
over
the
two-year
period.
Do.
C
I
tell
you,
I
tell
you
what
would
be
easier.
Maybe
if
you
just
could
you
email
the
committee
and
we
could
get
those
and
just
kind
of
look
at
them?
I
would
like
to
look
through
all
of
those
for
the
and
just
see
what's
going
on
out
there
and
that
that
would
cover
all
the
all
five
of
those.
Yes.
C
Them
and
nobody
here,
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
remember
them
if
we
went
through
them
all
now
anyway,
so
that
would
be
a
great
review
for
me.
I'd
very
much
appreciate
that.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
on
280-285
motion
approved
by
representative
hearts
for
a
second
second,
second,
by
representative
bowling
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
C
C
C
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
this
morning.
So
if
you
were
just
listening,
we're
gonna
cover
301
to
three
or
four.
These
are
the
legal
contracts.
I
have
the
same
same
question
that
I
just
had
from
northern
kentucky
university.
You
don't
have
to
go
through
them,
but
if
you
could
get
back
to
us
and
we
could
see
how
much
of
each
of
those
I
think
you
have
four
different
contracts
of
200
000.
C
N
E
C
By
representative
mentor
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
C
Hi
and
sir,
I
look
very
much
forward
to
seeing
that
report.
If
you
could
get
that
email
to
the
committee.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
very
helpful,
you're
not
off
the
hook.
Yet
because
we
have,
we
have
one
more
another
contract
with
number
82
we're
going
to
the
ivory
list.
H
B
Mr
chairman,
I
was
confused
about
this
contract
and
I
had
staff
had
emailed
me.
I
think,
late
last
night
that
there
may
be
issues.
I
think
we're
on
the
wrong
thing,
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
correct
thing.
H
So
we
became
aware
of
that.
The
committee's
pulled
list
had
information
that
appears
to
intermingle
two
contracts
with
with
similar
numbers.
Two
separate
agencies
so
looks
like
that:
the
wayne
county
board
of
education
and
the
department
of
corrections
both
have
a
contract
with
the
numbers
2205
now
one
of
those
is
upon
two,
the
other
is
upon
three.
H
C
One
second
here
formulating
formulating
a
plan
of
action.
M
B
I
would
make
a
move
motion
to
defer,
because
that's
exactly
I'm
I'm
really
confused
about
this
content
of
this
contract,
because
the
numbers
I
was
going
to
ask
about
the
cost
and
and
the
scope
of
services
and
come
to
find
out.
It's
actually
not
even
that
contract.
It's
something
totally
else
and
I
didn't
really
know
what
it
was,
and
I
don't
know
that
I
have
questions
on
the
second
part
of
the
dental
or
diamond
drugs
or
whatever
we're
doing,
because
it
said
we're
doing
a
board
of
education
position.
So
I
would
move
to
defer.
B
C
K
C
Okay,
so
our
issue
here
for
everyone
is,
we
have
two
contracts
with
extremely
with
the
same
number
ones
upon
and
so
deferring
the
contract.
That's
in
front
of
us,
the
wayne
county
board
of
education
deferring
it
is
not
the
right
action,
because
there
is
no
action
to
take
on
that
withdrawal.
Their
correct
action
is
to
exactly
center
southwest.
C
We
need
to
make
a
and
before
we
do,
that,
we
need
to
make
a
motion
to
withdraw
that
contract
and
then
the
second
motion
will
be
to
put
in
these
correct
contract,
which
would
be
pawn
two
and
then
the
five
four.
Oh,
two,
two
zero
zero
zero
five
to
put
the
pawn
three
to
put
that
contract
in
and
then
we
can
take
that
contract
and
defer
it
to
next
month,
so
that
the
committee
can
have
time
to
look
at
it
and
review
it
rather
than
just
do
it
right
now.
Today,
if.
H
C
C
C
I
don't
know
if
the
board
of
elections
are
they
available
yet
or
we
need
to
go
if
you're
not
available,
yet
we
need
to
so
we're
going
to
have
to
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
the
board
of
elections,
we're
going
to
go
to
apartment
for
community-based
services
and
that's
number
64,
76,
77
and
89
on
the
routine
moa
pink
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
P
C
Okay,
no
problem
she
can
identify
herself
when
she
gets
here.
Senator
southworth
has
questions
and
senator
southworth.
You
pulled
these,
and
so,
as
you
ask
your
question,
if
you
want
to
do
them
individually,
we
will,
if
you
can,
if
we
can
group
them
that
would
be
better
but
I'll.
Just
let
you
direct
to
tear
how
you
want
to
do
that.
Okay,.
N
B
Thank
you.
I
normally
can
keep
up
a
little
better,
but
I'm
trying
to
see
the
numbers
here.
We've
got
228
thousand
dollars
and
I
see
the
note
on
there
used
to
be
private
funding,
and
now
it
looks
like
we're
doing
something
here.
Can
you
explain
I'm
pretty
well
confused
on
what
is
going
on
sure.
P
Our
original
engagement
with
with
this
particular
entity
began
in
2019.
It
predated
my
return
back
to
the
department,
but
there
it
was
an
engagement
with
a
a
cohort
of
several
states.
There
was
private
funding
available
at
the
time
it
was
in
conjunction
with
the
department
of
health
and
human
services.
Also
they
were
also
a
partner
in
this,
but
that
engagement
ended
last
year.
P
P
Are
these
are
these
are
tanf
funds,
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families
and
it's
to
focus
on
the
families
served
by
that
program
and
helped
develop
a
more
outcomes-based,
a
more
appropriate
outcomes
based
way
of
looking
at
the
program
and
how
we
define
success
for
the
families
we're
serving.
So
it
is
a
limited
engagement
to
help
us
redesign
and
then
move
forward
with
the
new
pre-design.
B
P
Private
funding
for
also
pandemic
related.
We,
we
did
not
spend
as
much
as
we
normally
would
have,
because
we
weren't
able
to
engage
with
families
the
way
we
normally
would.
So
we
did
have
some
additional
funds
remaining
that
we
could
use
for
this
year.
B
B
It
sounds
like
to
me
a
staff
person
and
they're
doing
a
number
of
different
things:
equity,
social
justice,
different
stuff.
Is
this
a
hundred
seventy
two
thousand
dollars?
Is
this
one
staff
person.
B
B
I
Total
for
over
the
two-year
period
we
are
contracting,
the
department
is
with
u
of
l,
for
a
senior
advisor
on
public
health,
and
dr
trinidad
jackson
has
been
identified
to
serve
in
that
role.
I
Dr
jackson
has
a
doctorate
in
public
health
services,
and
the
work
of
the
contract
will
be
focused,
focused
on
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
assisting
the
the
department
in
identifying
and
addressing
structural
and
systemic
changes
that
are
needed
to
better
serve
families
and
individuals,
with
a
specific
emphasis
on
on
poverty
and
looking
at
again
rural
versus
urban
areas
and
how
we,
how
we
engage
and
how
we
serve
individuals.
B
Thank
you.
I'd
like
the
cabinet
to
focus
on
engaging
and
serving
individuals,
but
what
the
description
here
says
is
that
we're
worried
about
making
a
diverse,
diverse
and
inclusive
cabinet,
which
is
to
me
more
focused
on
internal
with
employees
than
it
is
external
to
the
people
we're
supposed
to
be
serving.
I
The
the
department
is,
is
intentionally
focused,
it's
focusing
on
equity
and
how
and
how
to
in
addressing
race
and
and
and
our
outcomes,
I
mean
our
data
shows
that
they're
disproportionate
disparate
disappearance,
disproportion
and
despair
outcomes
based
upon
rates,
so
part
of
that
is
working
with
our
staff
to
be
able
to
identify
that
utilize
our
data
differently
and
and
be
acknowledged,
where
we
need
to
look
at
policies,
make
changes,
and
so
so
again
that
is
part
of
part
of
the
overall
scope
of
this
contract
and
work.
B
C
F
You
piqued
my
interest
a
little
bit
on
this,
so
it's
about
eighty
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
this
individual
and
then
the
position
it
says
to
co-lead.
So
is
there
another
individual?
Is
it
a
separate
contract
or
is
that
someone
that's
already
it's.
I
I
The
contracted
time
for
dr
jackson,
I
believe,
is
about
fifty
percent.
If
it's
50.
I
No,
no,
he
works
with
the
university
of
louisville.
I
I
We
he
he
is
engaging
with
this
on
a
weekly
basis.
Okay,.
C
Thank
you,
you're
welcome
any
other
questions
or
comments,
and
this
is
for
we're
separating
these
out,
and
this
will
be
number
64
and
76
on
the
pink
list,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
If
not,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
on
those
two
make
a
motion
motion
by
senator
yates.
Second,
second,
by
representative
mentor
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
E
Would
have
voted
yes
on
64
and
no
on
76,
but
the
motion
is
combined.
I'm
voting
no
on
the
motion.
C
C
Okay,
the
motion
to
approve
has
failed.
Is
there
another
motion
to
disapprove
the
contract
and
I
guess
my
question
being
since
the
comment
was
made
during
the
voting?
Do
you
want
to
separate
those
we
could?
The
motion
could
to
separate
the
contracts
and
individually
vote
on
those
contracts.
C
C
B
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
on
this
structured
decision-making
system.
It
looks
like
to
me
it
is.
I
guess
this
is
a
trademark
in
our
little
type
here.
B
The
way
that
we
make
decisions-
obviously
this
I
mean
this
might
be
really
interesting,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
the
money
that
we're
spending.
It
looks
like
part
of
its
federal
funds,
it's
part
of
its
general
funds
and
perhaps
we're
doing
training
on
this
looks
like.
But
where
are
we
at
on
this?
B
Is
this
like
a
one-time
deal,
or
is
this
a
all
the
time
thing
because
it
seems
like
to
me
we
need
to
get
a
handle
on
our
decision
making
for
these
difficult
situations,
and
I've
been
quite
concerned,
as
my
number
one
research
this
summer
on
what
is
going
on
over
there,
because
I
get
weird
things
coming
from
constituents
like
I've
got
constituent
wants
to
meet
with
me.
Who
has
recurring
issues
grandson
at
gunpoint,
can't
get
us
somebody
to
call
him
back.
Then
we've
got
people
that
don't
know
why
they
showed
up
in
the
first
place.
N
So
this
is
will
be
our
third
contract
for
destructure
decision
making.
We
are
working
on
implementing
if
I
count
six
seven
eight
tools,
total
that
will
be
structured
decision
making
tools
in
both
child
protective
services
and
adult
protective
services,
and
the
tools
are
based
on
research
that
it
is
a
national
model
that
has
been
implemented
in
many
other
jurisdictions
and
it
is,
and
it
will
assist
the
tools,
will
assist
workers
in
making
more
consistent
and
accurate
decisions
throughout
different
points
and
times
in
their
case,
work.
B
N
So
this
contract
is
for
two
more
years
and
at
the
end
of
the
two-year
period,
with
the
scope
of
working
the
contract,
we
should
have
all
of
the
tools
implemented
at
that
point
and
that
will
include
the
training
for
the
tools.
Automation
of
the
tools
in
that
two-year
period.
C
Let's
is
there
in
motion
to
approve
or
disapprove
number
77
make
a
motion
to
approve
a
motion
approved
by
senator
yates.
Is
there
a
second
second
second
by
representative
bowling
clerk?
Please
call
the
roll.
B
Explain
my
book,
mr
chairman,
yes
ma'am,
I'm
gonna
vote.
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
type
of
work,
the
description
that
I'm
hearing
but
that's
the
problem.
I
always
say
the
meetings
in
frankfort.
We
hear
great
things
in
the
meetings
and
in
real
life.
It's
never
that
way.
B
B
N
Well,
so
the
this
contract
is
to
implement
a
differential
response
or
an
alternative
response
approach
in
child
welfare
and,
in
our
case
work.
It
is
a
part
of
our
overall
expansion
of
our
prevention
efforts
and
the
contract
will
be
used
for
us
to
build
that
model
and
approach,
as
well
as
build
training
and
build
a
structure
for
staffing.
B
K
N
Well,
so
alternative
response
is
also
a
national
or
it's
natural,
but
many
other
jurisdictions
use
it,
and
it
is
really
to
change
our
approach
on
how
we
approach
our
case
work
and,
instead
of
always
coming
from,
especially
in
lower
risk
type
cases
in
child
welfare.
Instead
of
coming
from
a
traditional
reproach
approach
where
we
are
very
investigative
and
we
are
making
a
finding
and
it's
punitive,
we
will
have
cases
that
fall
into
that
alternative
or
differential
response
approach,
where
we
take
a
more
proactive
providing
services
and
a
more
supportive
approach.
K
Man-
okay,
with
that
being
the
case,
and
this
being
a
two-year
contract,
am
I
then
to
assume-
which
is
probably
a
bad
thing-
that
in
two
years
we'll
either
drop
this
program,
this
particular
contract
or
we'll
drop
a
different
contract,
because
we
seem
to
keep
piling
them
on
and
they're
very,
very
confusing
and
seems
like
we
always
add
things,
we're
not
taking
anything
away,
and
what
I
want
today
is
I
want
to
get
on.
The
record
is
that,
where
we're
headed.
N
So
developing
an
alternative
response
is
a
part
of
our
federal
plan
in
response
to
some
reviews
and
things
so,
and
it
has.
It
is
a
part
of
that.
I
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
we
won't
have
our
model
built
in
the
two-year
period.
N
I
believe
that
this
contract
will
be
completed
in
that
two-year
period
and
and
the
structured
decision-making
tools
if
you're
referring
to
that
contract,
though
those
are
two
separate
things
and
we
will
have
both
of
those
working
in
conjunction
with
each
other
in
the
two-year
period.
So
we
will
be
building
those
models
and
approaches
and
those
tools
that
are
in
these
two
different
contracts.
At
the
same
time,
during
this
two-year
period,.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
know
that
several
members
of
our
legislative
body
have
been
cast
of
volunteers
and
I've
heard
on
the
floor
many
times
about
the
need
for
abuse
and
neglect.
How
kentucky
is
continually
ranking
the
top
five
worst
in
the
nation
year
after
year
after
year,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
we
continue
a
multi-faceted
approach
to
address
this
very
very
need.
F
But
this
is
a
best
practices
right
before
us.
This
is
federal
money
that
comes
through.
I
think
it's
100
federal
money
to
address
what
has
been
identified
as
a
best
practices
approach,
because
in
the
event
that
we
continue
the
approach
that
we
have
right
now
that
a
lot
of
people
who
otherwise
may
need
help
with
children
are
sometimes
scared
to
pick
up
the
phone
because
of
the
deep
investigative
process
and
sometimes
their
removal,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
have
both
in
place.
F
We'll
have
to
have
it
where
we
have
a
way
that
that
you
can
have
through
this
program,
but
also
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
already
have
in
place
where
we
deal
with
other
lines
of
abuse
and
neglect.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
C
Any
other
questions
on
number
89
for
meredith.
L
L
So
I
share
the
frustration,
not
gonna,
pretend
to
know
these
folks
business-
and
I
know,
as
legislators
were
criticized
for
that
on
numerous
occasions-
that
we
should
be
making
decisions
about
things
we
don't
know
anything
about,
but
I
can't
fly
an
airplane
either,
but
I
know
when
one's
crashing-
and
I
think
we're
all
concerned
about
where
all
this
is
going.
So
that's
all.
C
K
I
vote.
I
have
an
opportunity
to
explain
my
vote.
Yes,
sir,
you
know
I
again,
I
I
used
to
call
myself
the
new
guy,
but
now
that
I've
been
here
just
a
little
bit
more
than
six
months,
I
promised
the
people
in
my
district
and
the
people
of
kentucky
that
I
would
that
I
would
diligently
review
review
the
things
that
are
put
before
me
and
one
of
the
things
I
know
during
the
time
that
I
was
during
the
time
I
went
through
my
medical
school
training
was.
K
C
B
We
definitely
need
to
get
a
different
approach,
because
over
90
percent
of
the
cases
that
get
investigated
are
nothing
and
that's
a
problem
for
costs,
taxpayers
are
paying
social
workers
are
stretched,
so
thin
they're
stressed
out
and
burned
out
and
they're
investigating
90
of
nothing
and
then,
like
I
said,
we've
got
cases
that
aren't
being
investigated,
so
we
never
definitely
needed
a
balance.
This
is,
I
think,
it's
a
promising
thing
on
paper.
B
I
really
would
like
this
to
be
more
of
a
focus
than
it
is,
but
I
don't
think,
as
senator
douglas
said,
we
need
to
always
be
worried
about
rushing
out
to
the
latest
greatest
best
practice.
Folks,
we've
got
people
that
are
on
the
ground
with
a
lot
of
common
sense
that
can
put
pieces
together
and
figure
out.
What's
not
working
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
of
that
in
the
future
and
not
so
many
one
million
dollar
contracts,
but
I
will
vote
yes
for
this
and
hopefully
get
better
outcome
on
this
one.
L
I'll
explain
my
vote.
Yes,
sir.
I'm
voting,
I
pretty
much
the
same
rationale
as
senator
douglas,
but
I'd
add
another
comment
to
that.
I
think
we've
got
a
kind
of
a
disturbing
trend.
I've
seen
over
the
last
five
years
that,
because
it's
100
federal
funding,
that's
something
we
should
jump
all
over
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
back
up
on
that
and
take
a
hard
look
as
to
whether
these
programs
are
truly
in
the
best
interest
of
kentucky
and
addressing
problems
specific
to
our
state
and
many
times.
L
C
About
I
like
to
echo
the
words
of
senator
senator
yates
with
the
multi-prong
attack
and
trying
to
solve
this
problem
so
vote
vote.
Eye
on
this
motion
is
approved.
Motion
carries
okay.
Thank
you
all
for
thank.
C
Q
C
Welcome
senator
southworth,
let
you
lead
off.
B
Thank
you.
These
contracts
bother
me
because
they're
just
mou's
with
blanket
language,
it
doesn't
tell
me
anything
what's
going
on,
so
I
have
to
call
you
and
say:
what's
going
on,
can
you
explain
well
for
both
of
them?
You
probably
have
both
in
front
of
you.
We've
got
62
500
for
barron,
county
and
75
000
for
graves.
Q
This
was
again,
I
believe
we
have
said
before
it's
hava
security
fund
dollars
that
the
state
board
of
elections
designated
back
in
november
or
december,
to
begin
the
process
of
helping
counties
to
get
voter
verified
audit
paper
trail
equipment
and
the
counties
have
gone
through
a
process
and
the
end
process
is
the
moa
which
determines
what
their
eligibility
is
and
what
their
request
is.
Q
They
are
paid
2,
500
per
precinct
and
in
the
case
of
baron,
they
have
25
precincts,
which
is
where
the
625
is
their
eligibility
and
what
their
request
is
based
on.
The
moa
graves
has
30
precincts
at
2500
per
precinct
and
their
request
is
75
000
and
that's
what
they're
eligible
for
now
I
can
if
you'd
like
with
barron
county
they
bought.
I
can
read
the
list
of
equipment
that
is
part
of
their
moa.
Q
Verity
scan
bundle,
they
bought
20
verity
ballot
box
base,
20
verity
duo,
stand
alone,
six
verity
print
bundle,
one
tabulation
computer,
one
report,
printer
1
verity
drives
36
verity
keys,
4.
the
total
expenditure
that
their
county
made
was
172
thousand
and
12
dollars,
and
that's
where
we
received
the
documentation
that
they
had
purchased
that
we
received
the
serial
numbers
once
the
equipment
came
in.
We
have
the
minutes
from
the
fiscal
court
meeting
where
they
approved
the
purchase.
It
went
through
their
fiscal
court
and
their
eligibility
is
the
62-5
at
25
precincts
at
2500..
B
The
62.
can
you
also
what's
the
75's,
that
you
said
their
request
was.
B
Q
Be
happy
to
read
their
equipment
purchased,
they
purchased
18,
verity,
scan
bundle,
18,
verity
ballot
box
base,
verity
duo,
stand
alone,
7,
verity
print
bundle,
1,
tabulation
computer
1
report,
printer
1
verity
drives
37
verity
keys,
4
and
their
invoice.
Total
was
150,
150
043.70.
Q
B
B
Spend
my
vote,
mr
chairman.
Yes
ma'am,
mr
chairman,
there
are
a
number
of
court
cases
going
on
right
now
about
problems
with
these
consolidated
poll
locations
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
use
of
taxpayer
dollars
to
continue
buying
systems
that
are
being
used
for
consolidated
poll
locations.
While
we've
got
a
number
of
people
in
major
questions
trying
to
sort
out
what
happened
with
all
this
technology,
I
think
we
need
to
get
that
straight
before
we
continue
spending
money
on
systems
that
create
those
kind
of
questions
at
elections.
B
E
Yes,
and
can
I
explain
my
vote
yes,
sir?
This
is
how
the
local
elected
officials
in
barron,
county
and
graves
county
have
best
decided
that
that
they
are
comfortable
with
tackling
elections,
and
I
have
no
doubt
they
did
their
due
diligence,
and
this
is
this
course
of
action
they
decided
to
take,
and
so
I'm
yes
thank
you.
C
C
B
Thank
you,
I'm
a
little
mixed
up
because
it
says
we're
doing
a
protocol
for
provider
training
in
trauma-informed
care,
and
then
it
starts
talking
about
pain,
prevention,
oncology
issues
and
at
least
the
way
that
I
know
this
term
trauma-informed
care.
It's
not
talking
about.
Like
cancer
pain,
it's
talking
about
psychological,
whatever
stuff.
So
can
you
explain
to
me
what
is
this
training
for
the
staff?
Or
is
this
oncology
patient
issues?
It.
M
Their
project
is
called
the
trauma-informed
pre-procedural
pain
intervention
and
it's
based
on
trauma-informed
care,
in
that
we
realize
that
there's,
an
evidence-based
body
of
knowledge
that
says
things
that
happen
to
us
can
cause
trauma
emotional
and
physical
and,
have
you
know
worse
outcomes
from
trauma,
and
so
what
they're
seeking
to
do
is
to
prevent
some
of
that
trauma
that
actually
occurs
when
a
child
in
a
family
comes
to
the
hospital
and
has
interventions
that
are
painful
and
treatment,
so
it
it.
M
E
E
D
B
Thank
you,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
because
we've
got
here.
80
children
fostered
care
120
to
all
these
staff,
volunteers
and
donors.
D
So
excuse
me,
the
saint
joseph
catholic
orphan
society,
and
that
entity
provides
services
to
over
1500
families
in
that
catchment
area
and
one
of
their
biggest
activities
is
providing
this
annual
picnic
within
jefferson
county
and
it's
60
000
folks
that
attend
that
event
and
they're,
using
these
funds
to
expand
that
and
offer
health
and
wellness
activities
and
opportunities
to
educate
children,
parents,
families,
staff
on
topics
that
these
families
have
questions,
concerns
about
and
also
at
the
same
time,
keeping
current
staff
up
to
date.
On
the
latest
information.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
F
Well,
first
of
all,
in
louisville,
this
is
a
big
event
and
one
a
lot
of
people
we
volunteered
and
different
parts
of
it.
A
lot
of
friends
that
volunteer
one
of
the
positive
is
really
what
we
miss.
F
I
think
that's
a
positive
and
when
we're
addressing
especially
children,
who
otherwise
may
have
certain
things
that
have
implicit,
have
kept
them
from
receiving
certain
benefits
or
services
that
we
know
they
need
and
failure
to
do
so
requires
to
not
only
mental
health
consequences
but
physical
health
consequences.
F
I
think
so
st
joe's
does
an
awesome
job,
so
I
just
really
want
to
peep
up
to
say
that
and
obviously
a
this
is
a
really
positive
thing
that
it's
in
our
community,
not
only
for
the
children
there,
the
families
they
serve
but
community
whole.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
senator
douglas.
K
I
have
two
questions
man.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
know
these
are
federal
funds
is,
is,
is
this?
Is
the
money
for
the
picnic
or
what's
the
money
for.
D
K
D
D
I
think
it's
benefit
to
the
to
the
children
that
are
going
to
be
there
and
it's
benefit
to
the
parents
and,
like
senator
y
said
it's
it's
a
benefit
for
the
community
because
they're
learning
what
resources
are
available
and
then
they're
learning
also
about
the
needs
of
this
particular
demographic
that
they
may
not
have
even
known
about
and
wanting
to
help.
So
I
think
it's
the
reciprocal
to
answer
your
question.
Senator
douglas.
C
K
Aye
but
explain
my
vote.
Yes,
sir.
I
just
want
to
express
a
little
bit
of
concern
because
we're
looking
at
a
particular
group
that
we're
giving
money
to
and
yes
I
know
it's
federal
money.
I
I
get
all
that,
but
but
we
have
our.
We
have
our
our
public
education
system
and
it
seems
to
me
we
we
sometimes
are
trying
to
separate
our
systems
as
if
one
group
of
information
affects
gets
to
this
group.
But
the
information
doesn't
get
to
this
group.
K
So
we've
got
to
give
more
money
to
this
group
because
either
they're
not
paying
attention
or
they
can't
read.
Or
you
know
I
I'm
trying
to
I'm
trying
to
look
at
what
we
can
do
to
bring
our
society
together
and
not
continue
to
separate
our
society
into
liberal
divisions.
But
I
vote.
I
thank
you,
mr
mr
chair.
F
P
C
L
L
C
B
Thank
you.
My
question
is
I'm
on
page
seven
of
the
contract.
B
One
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
constituents
from
I
just
had
one
in
my
office
last
week,
massive
vaccine
reaction,
no
reporting-
and
I'm
wondering
this
is
again
my
problem
with
the
meetings
in
frankfurt.
The
paperwork
sounds
great,
but
is
it
really
happening
out
in
the
real
world
we're
going
to
have
these
programs
where
we're
trying
to
increase
numbers
of
people
being
involved
in
something
that
is
dangerous
and
life-threatening
to
some
people?
B
E
So
you're
speaking
directly
about
one
particular
position
on
this
big
contract,
the
health
educator
position
and
the
health
educator
position
is
responsible
for
outreach
to
health
care
providers
to
make
sure
that
we're
reporting
information
into
the
various
system.
And
so
we
obviously
need
to
get
that
information.
So
we
can
make
good
decisions
based
upon
what
happens
with
the
vaccines.
B
Is
this
position
all
the
time
saying,
though,
I
think
this
has
kind
of
been
an
ongoing
program
for
a
number
of
years,
I'm.
B
This
is
a
recurring
position.
The
health
educator
position
is
a
recurring
position,
so
is
there
anything
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
to
help
improve
the
situation
between
the
last
many
contracts
and
this
contract
is
kind
of
where
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is.
It
is
the
same
exact
wording
as
the
last
contract.
E
Actually,
this
particular
position
is
continuing
to
try
to
do
the
outreach
and
to
gain
information
in
the
community
with
the
providers.
There
is
a
different
person
in
this
position,
this
particular
time
and
so
we're
expecting
some
obviously
different
results
from
this
position.
This
time
with
a
different
person
in
the
position.
C
C
O
O
O
C
Welcome,
if
you
just
name
and
position,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
Hi
gina
brian,
with
the
kentucky
department
for
public.
B
Thank
you.
It
says
here,
we've
I'm
assuming
this
is
kind
of
an
all
the
time
recurring
situation.
If
I'm
wrong,
then
correct
me,
but
it
says
we're
going
to
do
family
planning
services
in
accordance
with
title
x,
title
10
requirements
and
the
national
standards
for
family
planning.
B
My
concern,
probably
everyone,
already
knows
what
I'm
going
to
ask
seems
like
to
me.
We
just
had
a
major
shift,
potentially
in
the
legal
situation.
I
don't
know
what
title
10
all
has
in
it.
Nobody
even
knows
what
kentucky
has
in
their
own
law
right
now
is
this
contract,
something
that
can
really
be
moving
forward
or
do
we
need
to
defer
and
figure
out
what's
going
on
before
we
move
forward
on
implementing
we're,
not
sure
what.
O
A
B
It
includes
things
that
are,
you
know,
not
somebody's
constitutional
right
to
do
and
at
this
point
we're
wondering
if
what's
illegal
and
what's
legal,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of.
Is
this
contract
well
written
ready
to
move
forward
under
current
law?
As
anyone
understands
it
or
does
this
thing
need
to
get
put
back
a
little
bit
and
restructured
where
we're
walking
around
any
of
those
landmines.
O
Well,
you're,
probably
not
walking
around
any
of
the
landmines.
You
can
feel
very
comfortable,
like
I
said
title
10.
If
you're
talking
about
abortion,
abortion
is
actually
prohibited
for
a
method
of
family
planning.
You
cannot,
you
cannot
even
promote
that
or
talk
about
that
in
a
way
that
promotes
it
as
a
method
of
birth
control.
You
can
you
know
so
that
has
always
been
in
our
law.
It
has
always
been
entitled
tense
law,
it's
federal,
and
that
is
one
thing
that
will
never
probably
change.
B
Okay,
my
follow-up,
I
guess
and
apologize
for
my
lack
of
science
and
legal
understanding
this.
I
know
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
don't
know
all
the
names
of
all
these
pills
different
stuff.
I
know
we
just
we
passed
the
law
about
pills
and
I'm
not
sure
where
the
pill
has
fallen,
which
pills
are
in
this
title
10
or
not,
and
that's
why
it's
muddled
to
me.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
are
avoiding
the
issues,
because
I
think
that
our
house
bill
3,
is
in
court
now
too
in
kentucky
and
so
federal
may
be
federal,
but
kentucky's
got
its
own
issues
right
now
with
what's
the
law
and
what's
not
the
law,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
clear
not
just
from
the
federal
but
also
the
state
and
who's.
Looked
at
this
to
review
this
in
the
last
two
weeks
to
be
sure,
yeah.
O
That's
a,
I
think,
you're
referring
to
the
abortion
inducing
pill,
and
so
that's
different
than
what
we
deal
with
in
title
10.,
title
10,
family
planning.
We
we
do
promote
the
use
of
emergency
contraceptives,
but
that
is
not
abortion.
So
if
you've
had
unprotected
sex
within
the
last
five
days,
you
would
be
able
to
take
an
emergency
contraceptive
and
that
actually
prevents
pregnancy
and
it
does
not
abort
pregnancy
and
it
causes
no
pregnancy
termination
whatsoever.
O
C
K
J
B
Mr
chairman,
probably
my
mistake,
this
is
the
same
thing,
so
I
think
we
probably
should
have
put
them
together.
C
P
M
B
Thank
you.
So
I
know
we
passed
back
in
the
special
session
in
2021
publicity
money.
This
says
we're
doing
a
million
dollars.
Is
this
the
same
publicity
money
that
we're
still
pulling
out
of
that
same
old
pot
or
is
this
different
money.
E
This
is
different
money.
This
is
from
cdc
to
promote
their
vaccine
with
confidence
campaign.
E
There
is
a
large
amount
of
money
that
we
have.
This
is
money
that
we're
spending
out
of
that
cdc,
immunization,
cooperative,
grant.
B
Okay-
and
my
final
question,
I
think,
is
it
says
here:
we're
going
to
deliver
these
educational
messages
in
a
non-judgmental,
non-political
and
objective
way
is
the
cdc
putting
out
information
that
was
not,
or
that
was
judgmental
political
and
non-objective,
and
this
is
going
to
be
different
information
or
we
kind
of
recycling.
The
same
information.
K
E
This
campaign
will
address
the
confidence
of
the
campaign
and
the
vaccination
as
promoted
by
the
cdc
with
disclosure
with
disclosures
for
other
issues
that
might
be
side
effects.
So.
E
E
C
C
C
B
E
A
C
B
Thank
you.
I
have
to
say
this
is
not
the
weirdest
thing
I've
seen
in
this
contract
set,
but
it
definitely
gets
up
there
somewhere,
and
I
want
to
find
out
who
is
getting
these
bingo
cards
and
where
are
the
games
being
played
or
what
in
the
world
is
going
on
here,
because
I
mean
there's,
sometimes
you
can
make
things
more
interesting
than
they
are,
but
this
is
really
getting
out
there.
D
D
D
This
has
been
developed
as
a
way
it
was
originally
developed
as
a
fall
prevention
program
for
our
elderly
to
enhance
cognitive
function,
social
connectedness,
because
it
has
a
component
where
there
is
usually
youth
that
interact
with
the
the
65
plus
population
as
they're
going
through
bingo
size,
the
bingo
cards
are
being
developed.
The
bingo
cards
were
developed
by
dr
crandall
at
western
kentucky
university
and
it
incorporates
an
exercise
component.
D
A
nutrition
component
there's
six
sessions,
two
weeks,
two
sessions
per
week
for
a
total
of
six
weeks
or
12
sessions,
and
it's
been
very
beneficial
for
this
demographic
they're
partnering
now
with
dale
they're
partnering
with
the
human
and
human
institute,
the
human
intellectual
development
institute
at
uk,
which
is
a
great
partnership,
they're
partnering
with
the
department
for
public
health.
This
is
a
true
collaborative
effort
to
address
some
of
the
needs
of
this
65
plus
population.
So.
B
Okay,
you
were
talking
about
exercise
and
health,
but
the
wording
I
see
here
seems
to
have
mostly
it
says,
reinforcing
hand,
washing
vaccinations,
vaccine
and
immunization
educational
curriculum
workshop
on
hygiene,
vaccine
and
boosters,
and
additional
vaccine
and
immunization
information.
B
D
That
component
to
expanding
what
they're,
currently
doing
and
incorporate
some
of
those
immunizations
that
65
plus
population
would
normally
be
interested
in
or
need
to
have
and
they're
also
going
to
be,
including
some
additional
online
components
using
the
universal
design
that
they
haven't
before
which,
if
you
all
know
what
universal
design
is,
is
to
making
sure
that
there's
more
white
space
that
there's
it's
easy
to
read
that
it's
easy
to
navigate
and
that
those
people
who
have
certain
disabilities
would
be
able
to
access
bingo
size
without
having
to
be
physically
present.
To
do
so.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
still
just
you
know,
we
sit
here
and
try
to
figure
out
how
to
spend
our
taxpayer
dollars
is
definitely
not
the
way.
I
would
have
thought
371
thousand
dollars
on
bingo
cards,
about
a
variety
of
things,
to
help
old
people
and
I'm
all
for
getting
creative
and
helping
old
people,
but
I'm
just
really
still
trying
to
struggle
with
you
know
of
all
the
needs
out
there.
How
do
bingo
cards
got
up
to
the
top
of
the
list,
but
that's
really
neat
here
there.
D
B
D
Well,
the
bingo
cards
are
not
necessarily
what
you
would.
They
are
the
traditional
bingo
cards,
but
there's
also
that
educational
component
piece
to
it
so
there's
a
question
and
then
there's
the
actual.
If
you
answer
that
question
we'll
do
the
the
bingo
on
the
card,
so
it's
an
educational
to
me
tool
that
they're
using
but
okay.
Thank
you.
F
First
of
all,
like
trying
to
produce
creative
approaches
to
take
what
would
not
necessarily
be
a
lot
of
money
and
make
sure
it
works.
We
know
that
taking
our
elderly
population
and
having
them
where
their
their
house
is
incorporated,
it's
very,
very
expensive.
So
the
I
think
part
of
this
program
and
my
understanding
is,
is
actually
to
be
able
to
be
active
outside
and
be
able
to
collaborate
as
well.
So
I
think
back
at
my
grandfather,
a
lot
of
you
saw
that
was
92
that
came
in
the
session.
F
He
did
have
in
care
help,
but
part
of
that
sometimes
was
the
interaction
outside
of
it.
So
just
the
encouragement
to
stand
up
to
sit
down
to
do
these
things
so
the
longer
that
we
can
keep
our
constituents
that
are
maybe
aging
at
home
and
active
healthier.
Well
that,
ultimately,
especially
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
state
paid
things,
it
saves
us
money.
F
So
I'm
I
always
applaud
whenever
we
can
look
at
ways
that
can
be
a
positive
for
our
constituents,
save
our
tax
dollars
and
otherwise
make
our
population
healthy,
and
so
it
looks
like
this
collaborative
approach
is
going
to
be
passed
on
and
hopefully
expanded,
and
I
don't.
I
think,
that
members
of
the
legislative
body
we
could
do
a
little
bit
of
bingo
size,
do
well
with
it
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
you.
L
L
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
demeaning,
not
not
really,
it
is
an
innovative
approach
and
I
wish
you
all
the
success
in
the
world.
I
think
you've
got
to
approach
it
from
a
thousand
different
ways,
and
I
guess
what
bothers
me
with
all
these
contracts
is.
We
have
no
way
really
measuring
the
effectiveness
of
of
how
we're
spending
these
dollars,
and
I
just
wish
there
was
some
way.
You
know
your
previous
testimony
again.
I
thought
that
was
great.
Everybody
knows
about
that
picnic
and
what
a
super
job
it
does,
but
I
really
wish.
L
Maybe
someone
could
give
us
a
report
a
year
later
saying
because
we
spent
200
000
here's
what
we
were
able
to
do,
but
you
know
we
never
see
that,
so
it
takes
a
leap
of
faith
and
you
know
face
value.
I
think
you
can
understand
why
371
thousand
dollars
for
bingo
cards
just
at
face
value
appears
that
it's
not
a
good
investment,
but
your
testimony.
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
and
I'll
support
this,
even
though
it
does
bother
me
that
you
assumed
I
like
bingo,
okay,
but
thank
you.
C
C
Do
we
do
we
have
any
further
comments
or
motions
on
this
motion
on
this
contract?
C
K
K
But
I
can't
tell
you
what's
not
working
and
I
don't
have
the
data
to
tell
you
why
it's
not
working
and
that's
a
concern
and
that's
what
we
hear
from
our
constituents
all
the
time.
So
my
vote
is
still
a
path,
but
I
want
you
to
know.
That's
that's
a
really
big
concern
that
I
have
in
these
situations.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
C
B
I
wasn't
going
to
explain
my
vote,
but
senator
douglas
has
inspired
me
and
I
am
going
all
over
the
place
on
what
is
the
right
answer
for
something
like
this,
and
so
I
start
with
I'm
going
to
vote
pass
as
well.
I
start
with
the
constitution.
Where
are
bingo
cards
in
the
constitution?
F
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you,
sir.
We
know
that
ultimately
long-term
care,
sometimes
people
have
disability
insurance.
Sometimes
people
have
things,
but
a
lot
of
that
will
fall
back
on
to
the
taxpayers.
Ultimately,
we
take
care
of
that.
Those
that
can't
take
care
of
themselves.
So
if
we
have
a
program
in
place
that
keeps
you
at
home
longer
keeps
you
active,
keeps
you
healthier,
it
actually
saves
money,
and
so
sometimes
we
say
look
at
it
like
a
business
approach.
F
E
I
feel
like
I
should
explain
my
vote,
but
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
simple.
Yes
thank
you.