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B
D
And
we
do
have
a
quorum
correct.
Yes,
we
do
with
the
quorum
being
present.
The
subcommittee
is
duly
constituted
to
do
business
today.
The
first
matter
of
business
on
our
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting.
Are
there
any
additions
or
corrections
to
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting.
D
D
D
D
G
D
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
ro,
mr
hearst
and
miss
holbrook.
We
appreciate
you
taking
time
today
from
your
schedule
to
be
with
us
on
this
discussion
of
this.
I
would
I'm
going
to
go
to
you
first.
Is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
to
comment
on
or
anything
any
statements
that
you
would
like
to
make
before
we
go
to
questions
specifically
on
this
regulation.
H
D
Okay,
once
once
that
you
speak,
please
mute
your
microphone
or
in
the
committee
room
either
either
of
the
other
two
have
anything
you'd
like
to
add,
or
you
want
us
to
go
to
questions
right
now.
No,
sir,
okay!
Thank
you.
We
do
have
some
questions
from
some
of
the
members
and
I
am
going
to
yield
first
to
senator
adams,
which
has
some
questions
that
she
would
like
to
proceed
with.
So
senator
adams.
Please
go
right
ahead
at
this
time.
I
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
all
being
here
to
answer
my
questions.
As
you
know,
I
wrote
you
a
letter
dated
november
5th
inquiring
as
to
the
inclusion
of
the
child
victims,
trust
fund
in
the
kentucky
employees
charitable
campaign,
and
I
never
heard
anything
back
so
fast
forward.
We
put
this
regulation
on
the
agenda
for
today
and
magically.
H
I'll
take
that
senator
and
first
let
me
apologize
for
the
delay
in
our
response
to
to
your
letter.
It
was
not
because
we
didn't
feel
like
this
response
was,
was
not
important
and
it
wasn't
it
wasn't.
Magical
we'd
actually
send
a
response.
A
few
days
before
that
I
emailed
that
response
to
you
on
friday
to
make
sure
you
had
it
before
this
meeting,
but
I
suspect
the
other
one
is
in
the
mail.
So
to
the
substance
of
your
question,
we
do
not
believe
we
can
change
the
the
regulation
without
more
facts.
H
In
fact,
the
information
we
had
suggested
that
those
donations
would
not
be
tax
deductible
and
and
that's
essentially,
the
reason
that
we
had
denied
inclusion
for
the
child
victims
trust
fund
into
the
kacc
campaign.
We
do
believe
certainly
that
this
fund
and
the
work
that
they
do
is
very
important
to
the
citizens,
citizens
of
kentucky
and
we
support
their
work
fully.
H
One
of
the
things
suggested
in
your
letter
was
that
we
expand
inclusion
to
other
non-profit
tax-exempt
organizations
and-
and
we
didn't
want
to
go
that
far
because
again,
there
are
tax-exempt
organizations
such
as
501
c4
organizations
which
are
tax-exempt,
but
because
of
their
status
of
being
able
to
advocate
on
behalf
of
political
candidates
and
other
things.
The
deductions
to
those
organizations
for
our
employees
would
not
be
tax
deductible.
So
we'd
have
to
do
some
more
research
to
find
out
that
were
possible,
but
we're
certainly
willing
to
work
with
the
child
victims.
I
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
response,
because
you
know
the
the
emotional
answer
is
that
how
would
you
not
allow
for
state
employees
to
want
to
contribute
to
a
fund
of
kids
who
have
been
raped
and
sexually
abused?
Why
would
we
want
to
eliminate
state
employees
who
sometimes
this
is
their
biggest
issue
that
they
advocate,
for?
Why
would
we
want
to
eliminate
that
ability
for
them
to
participate
in
something?
That's
so
important.
As
you
know,
kentucky
is
number
one
in
child
abuse
and
neglect
for
the
last
three
years.
I
We're
going
to
be
there
on
number
four,
if
we
don't
start
to
change
that
mindset
and
so
the
way
that
the
per
the
statute
did
not
allow
for
the
personnel
cabinet
to
come
up
with
this
kentucky
employees
charitable
campaign.
This
was
something
that
was
created,
identified
and
created
by
the
personnel
cabinet.
I
It
was
a
very
broad
purview
that
you
all
had
in
order
to
create
this,
yet
you
seem
to
be
very
narrowly
focused
on
who's
allowed
to
participate
and
who
our
employees
are
allowed
to
contribute
to,
and
so
I'm
encouraged
by
your
answer
that
you
will
keep
an
open
mind
on
something.
That's
this
important
because
kentucky
really
needs
to
change
the
dynamic
in
which
we're
going,
and
it
might
start
right
here
and
with
this.
I
H
Please
we
certainly
agree
that
this
is.
This
is
a
very
important
issue.
It's
a
it's
a
very
important
organization.
They
do
great
work
from
everything
that
I
can
that
I've
read.
They
do
great
work
in
terms
of
informing
citizens
about
this
very
important
issues.
I
don't
want
that
to
be
misconstrued
at
all.
I
will
say
there
are
other,
are
other
organizations
that
haven't
met
our
criteria,
for
other
reasons
that
that
also
do
very
good
work,
but
haven't
met
the
criteria
and
have
not
been
able
to
be
part
of
the
kecc
campaign?
I
I
H
E
H
E
E
E
Some
of
the
research
you
may
want
to
do,
is
just
to
look
on
google
and
do
a
search
on
their
website
and
take
a
look
at
what
they
claim
to
be
because,
if
not,
if
we
have
a
government
organization
claiming
tax-deductible
donations
and
they're,
not
that
way
or
allowed
to
that's
a
major
concern,
obviously
I
would
think,
but
that's
that's
all
I'm
doing
here.
I
don't
haven't
done
any
research
on
this.
It's
presented
before,
so
I'm
just
looking
on
my
phone
and
when
you
click
on
how
we
help
on
their
website.
E
E
E
H
Well,
what
we're
trying
to
do
senator
is
to
try
to
structure
this
regulation
to
also
maximize
the
benefits
to
our
employees.
That's
why
we
wanted
those
deduct.
Those
donations
would
be
tax
deductible
and-
and
that's
essentially,
why
it's
structured
in
the
way
that
it
is,
but,
as
I
said,
we're
willing
to
certainly
try
to
work
with
them
to
see.
Perhaps
we've
there's
information
that
we
don't
have
and
we're
willing
to
work
with
them
to
see
what
we
can
do.
Yeah.
E
D
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
that
and
my
colleagues
thank
you
for
bringing
this
up
a
very,
very
important
issue
in
kentucky.
In
fact,
I
cut
my
teeth
in
public
service
dealing
a
lot
with
this.
I
was
on
megan's
law
team
and
we
did
a
lot
of
prosecutions
going
to
it.
One
thing
I
found,
though,
is
sometimes
the
get
the
result
is
simpler.
J
While
I'm
talking
looking
at
it.
If
you
pull
up,
I
guess
we
have
the
prevent
child
abuse
kentucky.
You
know
prevent
child
abuse
nationwide.
It's
huge
money
comes
from
all
over,
and
I
know
that
kentucky
because
we
do
make
some
headlines
because
of
all
the
levels
of
abuse
and
neglect
that
we
have
and
we
get
some
outside
money.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
partnership
with
the
trust
fund
with
you
know
the
pca,
ky
and
potentially
be
able
to
stream
it
that
way.
We
don't.
J
We
don't
violate
the
law
as
it
is,
and
we
still
make
sure
we
get
those
funds
and
money
to
the
to
the
very
asset
in
which
we're
trying
to
help
and
it's
the
children.
So
I
know
I've
done
that
too.
When
I
used
to
be
president
of
the
city
here
locally
in
louisville,
you
know
we
find
ways.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there
was
appropriate
checks
and
balances
and
oversight,
and
some
of
my
smaller
ones
didn't
have
that.
J
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
put
in
place,
but
if
they
were
potentially,
if
we
had
prevent
child
abuse
kentucky,
it
could
be
the
option
and
long
as
there
was
an
understanding
agreement
that
they
were
going
to.
You
know
whatever
percentage
of
money
they
get
in,
make
sure
it
goes
back
to
the
trust
fund
to
be
able
to
carry
out
the
same
goals.
You
know
we
got
two
different
parties
doing
similar
situated
goals.
Does
that
not
achieve
the
same
result,
which
is
hopefully
reducing
neglect
and
abuse?
H
J
D
E
J
E
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
my
understanding
that
the
my
question
is
going
to
center
on
the
authority.
We
know
what
authority
you
have
as
a
cabinet
and
it's
my
understanding,
you're
using
your
all's
authority
under
18,
a
.030
to
promulgate
regulations
in
this
space
is
that
is
that
accurate?
Am
I
being
is
that
correct?
K
K
Okay,
so
when
I
look
at
18030,
it
says
the
secretary
shall,
as
provided
by
this
chapter,
promulgate
comprehensive
administrative
regulations
consistent
with
the
provisions
of
krs
chapters
13
and
18,
a
for
the
administration
of
the
personnel
system,
so
in
other
words,
you're
relying
on
the
general
authority
given
in
that
statute.
To
do
this,
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
wide.
Is
that
fair,
a
fair
statement?
K
K
K
So
I
think,
there's
kind
of
a
consensus
here
that
that
that's
the
wish
of
the
committee
that
that
you
would
basically
work
this
out
with
the
attorney
general's
office
and
come
up
with
that
language,
and
you
know
we
would
have
oversight
of
that
language.
So
whatever
language
it
was,
it
would
have
to
come
back
through
this
committee
and
and
we
could
work
it
out
then.
So
my
ask
is
that
you
do
that.
I'm
assuming
that's
what
you
probably
were
going
to
do
anyway,
but
that's
my.
H
D
D
I'm
very
encouraged
to
hear
of
your
willingness
to
work
to
rectify
this
situation,
as,
as
we've
heard
the
committee
members
and
then
your
responses
to
their
question,
it
appears
that
this
can
happen
so
as
we
as
we
as
this
committee
look
forward
to
language
that
would
come
back
to
us
to
change
this
regulation,
we're
looking
forward
to
that
and-
and
but-
and
I
also
just
want
to
add
this-
I
want
it
to
be
more
than
just
you
telling
us
that's
your
willingness
to
do
this.
We
need
to
make
this
happen.
We
need.
D
We
need
to
make
this
happen,
because
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
correct
senator
adams
on
senator
adams.
I
think
we're
not
fourth
from
the
bottom.
I
think
we
are
the
bottom
in
in
my
if
my
if
my
research
was
correct,
I
think
we're
50th
in
the
nation,
and
so
I
think
this
is
such
an
important
issue
and
again
I
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
work
with
us
representing
bridges.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
ques
have
a
question?
Please?
Yes,.
L
L
I
think
the
simplest
thing
is:
we've
got
two
government
organizations
how
about
picking
the
phone
up
and
calling
the
attorney
general
and
find
out
exactly
how
this
is
set
up,
and
why
hasn't
I.
I
just
can't
believe
that
that
hasn't
been
done,
that'd
be
the
simplest
straightforward,
shot
at
connecting
the
dots
and
getting
the
information
that's
needed
and
if
he's
not
qualified
to
give
us
the
proper
information,
I
don't
know
if
we've
got
anybody
in
the
state.
L
D
Thank
you,
representative
bridges
again,
I
believe
the
consensus
of
all
the
committee
here
today
and,
and
you
folks
that
are
with
us,
is
we
want
to
make
this
happen,
and
so,
let's
make
it
happen,
we
would
love
to
have
this
in
a
regulation
that
would
would
allow
what
we're
talking
about
here
today
to
happen.
So
again,
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
your
response
to
this
and
anything
else.
Sir
you'd
like
to
say
before
we
move
on.
F
This
regulation
amends
to
add
sections
clarifying
the
superintendent's
duty
to
report
requests
for
a
private
hearing
and
motions
to
reconsider
to
make
corrections
in
accordance
with
krs
chapter
13b
and
make
minor
updates.
The
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
krs
13a.
D
Thank
you
very
much
today
for
being
with
us,
there
is
a
staff
amendment
on
this
regulation.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval
of
this
staff
amendment?
There
is
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second?
There
is
a
motion
in
second
without
objection
that
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
on
this
regulation.
D
D
K
N
A
N
101
1
335
3400
amend
personnel
board
provisions,
including
workstations
demotions
promotions,
transfers,
reinstatements,
reprimands
disciplinary
actions,
hearings,
appeals
board
proceedings,
grievances
and
complaints
and
restoration
of
employment
from
military
duty
to
make
technical
corrections
clarify
provisions
established
that
a
disciplinary
fine
shall
not
conflict
with
federal
requirements
and
streamline
procedures
for
filing
related
to
appeals
or
hearings.
The
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
krs
chapter
13a.
D
D
D
O
D
D
C
D
A
F
301
kar
2082
amends
requirements
for
the
development
of
an
online
permitting
system,
amends
the
expansion
of
the
department's
ability
to
deny
or
revoke
a
permit
the
prohibition
on
the
importation
and
possession
of
wild
rabbits,
hares,
pikas,
fox
komodo,
dragons
and
lynx
species,
the
improvement
of
protections
from
rabies,
the
authorization
of
certain
exemptions,
inspections
and
other
permits.
Administrative
hearings,
confiscated
wildlife,
grandfathering
for
previously
held
legal,
prohibited
wildlife
species
and
the
establishment
of
permanent
applications
and
report
forums.
F
The
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
section
10
to
specify
that
the
commissioner's
decision
to
revoke
an
exemption
or
deny
future
exemptions
shall
be
based
upon
the
necessity
to
protect
public
health,
public
safety
native
ecosystems
or
native
wildlife
and
various
sections
to
comply
with
krs
chapter
13a,
301,
kar,
3010
and
3026
amend
to
make
technical
corrections
and
update
language.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
for
these
regulations
also
amend
various
sections
by
with
13a.
D
D
D
I
generally
am
the
one
that
will
bring
up
a
question
concerning
fish
and
wildlife.
I
really
do
not
have
any
questions
except
one.
I
do
have
a
small
question
on
the
the
301
kr
03026
about
the
access
to
the
wildlife
management
areas
for
the
mobility
impaired
individuals,
what
what
is
actually
being
done
to
provide
them
the
opportunities
for
that.
Could
you
just
give
me
just
a
real
quick
answer
on
that?
What's
actually
being
done
for
that?
For
those
of
you.
G
We
have
we
have
designated
tracks
on
wildlife
management
areas
where
people
with
mobility
impairments
may
obtain
direct
access
using
a
vehicle
and
so
the
it's
not
on
every
wma
or
every
tract.
But
we
have
designated
areas
in
each
region
so
that
people
with
with
impairments
can
access
the
wmas
using
an
atv
or
a
vehicle.
P
605-1051
establishes
the
rules
of
conduct
for
motor
vehicle
dealers
and
salespersons
licensed
under
krs
chapter
190
1071
establishes
the
procedures
for
motor
vehicle
dealers
to
report
ownership
status
to
the
motor
vehicle
commission
and
the
requirements
for
notification
of
change
of
ownership.
1091
establishes
provisions
against
false
or
misleading
advertising
on
the
part
of
a
motor
vehicle
dealer.
P
One
131
establishes
forms
of
procedure
and
practice
for
hearing
conducted
by
the
motor
vehicle.
Commission
1191
establishes
examples
of
what
constitutes
false
or
misleading
advertisement
and
1211
establishes
procedures
for
application
and
licensure
for
non-profit
motor
vehicle
dealers,
including
the
disadvantaged
nature
or
condition
of
clients
served.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
to
these
regulations,
amend
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
and
formatting
requirements
of
keras
chapter
13a
and
make
technical
changes.
C
O
Make
changes
as
a
result
of
the
recent
annual
meeting
of
member
schools
where
they
voted
to
clarify
the
procedure
to
break
ties
when
voting
for
a
member
of
the
board
of
control
that
was
contained
in
the
khsaa
constitution
and
update
policies
and
other
documents.
According
to
recent
board
action,
the
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
section
one
to
comply
with
karis
chapter
13a.
D
D
D
K
M
K
K
D
K
M
Officially
out,
that's
right
and
the
conditions
around
that
are
first
of
all,
it
has
to
be
a
reportable
disease,
that's
defined
by
the
department
for
public
health.
The
employee
has
to
be
ordered
by
their
treating
physician
that
they
need
to
be
under
quarantine
as
a
result
of
that,
and
they
have
to
have
either
exhausted
their
accumulated
sick
leave
or
be
ineligible
for
the
use
of
that
sick
leave.
K
C
M
C
M
It
does
so
that
one
is
specific
to
covet
19.,
it
will
expire
when
this
regulation
becomes
effective
and
this
one
will
carry
forward.
The
emergency
regulation
does
make
a
designation
between
vaccinated
versus
unvaccinated
employees,
so
those
vaccinated
employees-
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
I
apologize
since
it's
not
on
the
agenda
but,
as
I
recall,
those
vaccinated
employees
are
eligible
for
the
paid
leave,
whereas
unvaccinated
employees
are
not
eligible
for
that
paid.
Leave.
D
D
D
B
Of
you,
actually,
our
schools
have
done
a
tremendous
job
of
trying
to
navigate
the
balance
between
what's
going
on
in
public
health
and
the
mental
health
issues,
with
depriving
the
kids
being
able
to
play
and
they
they've
really
juggled
well
different
locales
have
handled
it
different
ways
and
it
all
seems
to
be
working.
The
kids
are
getting
the
opportunity
to
participate.
B
We
are
going
to
try
to
recruit
people
such
as
yourself
to
come
back
out
to
officiate
because
where
we
have
lost,
people
is
on
the
is
in
the
officiating
in
all
the
sports,
we're
down
about
25
percent
over
two
years
and
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge
in
the
near
future.
But
for
right
now
we're
still
able
to
play-
and
I
think
between
you
and
representative
bridges.
We
can.
We
got
two
more.
We
can
line
up.
D
Well,
I
I
I
thank
you
for
that
comment,
sir.
I
I
think
my
limited
abilities
may
be
just
to
toss
the
ball
up
and
then
kind
of
work,
the
center
line,
if
there's
over
in
backs.
I
think
I
could
handle
that
from
that
one
spot
there,
but
I
do
appreciate
what
you
you're
doing
as
the
commissioner,
and
I
know
it's
been
difficult
and
again.
D
There
appears
to
be
none.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
today
for
your
time.
Please
call
the
next
regulation
at
this
time.
Okay,
we
are
gonna,
we're
gonna
backtrack
to
the
motor
vehicle
commission.
So
if
you're
looking
in
your
booklets,
please
go
back
to
under
the
transportation
cabinet
and
we'll
proceed
with
that.
One.
C
D
D
D
N
725
1010
through
2080
and
then
libraries
and
archives
provisions,
including
records
officer
provisions,
record
reproduction
retention,
management
and
transfer
requirements
for
records,
collection
and
distribution,
provisions
for
public
library
facilities,
construction
and
requirements
related
to
the
interstate
library
compact
to
make
technical
corrections.
Additionally,
104-0
updates
definitions
and
provides
for
electronic
distribution
of
reports
and
publications.
N
105-0
deletes
outdated
requirements
and
2015
clarifies
state
librarian
appeal
procedures.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
among
various
sections
to
comply
with
krs
chapter
13a,
including
material
incorporated
by
reference.
1050,
establishes
an
informal
appeal
process
and
2080
establishes
which
parties
shall
use
the
incorporated
material.
B
D
Thank
you
both
for
being
with
us
this
afternoon.
I
appreciate
your
time.
There
are
staff
amendments.
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
staff
amendments?
There
is
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
there
is
a
second
without
objection.
It
is
so
or
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
members
of
this
subcommittee?
At
this
time
I
got
a
question.
Senator
west
has
a
question.
Senator
west
go
right
ahead,
sir.
K
B
This
these
rigs
don't
address
record
retention.
If
that's
what
you're
referring
to
that
is
a
process
that
goes
through
the
state,
library's
archives
and
records,
commission
and
records
retention
is
decided
in
conjunction
with
the
agencies
in
which
it
impacts,
and
sometimes
obvious.
Often,
the
legal
considerations
have
to
be
taken
into
account
about
how
long
a
record
needs
to
be
kept.
But
generally
a
record
is
kept
long,
just
as
long
as
it
meets
the
legal
requirements
and
the
needs
of
the
agency.
The
state,
library's
archives
and
records
commission
doesn't
arbitrarily
set
retention
periods.
K
B
D
O
804
kr4
2221
establishes
requirements
relating
to
a
licensed
premises
being
shared
by
two
or
more
licensees
through
an
alternating
proprietary
proprietorship
agreement,
including
to
define
the
type
of
agreement
establish
the
basic
requirements
for
this
type
of
agreement
prohibit
an
alternating
proprietorship
agreement
if
it
would
create
an
interlocking
interest,
exclude
direct
shipper
licenses
and
direct
compliance
with
any
applicable
federal
laws.
The
amended
after
comments
version
removes
the
prohibition
against
an
alternating
proprietorship
agreement,
creating
interlocking
substantial
interest
and
inserts
a
prohibition
against
an
alternating
proprietorship
agreement
with
any
person
who
holds
a
kentucky.
O
D
Thank
you,
mr
newton.
We
appreciate
you
being
with
us
today.
There
is
a
staff
amendment
to
this
regulation.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval
of
this?
There
is
a
motion.
Is
there
and
there
is
a
second
without
objection.
It
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
today?
For
mr
newton
senator
west
go
right
ahead,
sir.
K
Q
Okay,
so
my
understanding
is
actually
that
this,
this
sort
of
arrangement
has
been
requested
for
a
number
of
years,
and
it
is
something
that
the
ttb
recognizes
essentially
problem
that
you
run
into
is.
There
are
a
lot
of
distilleries
and
other
sorts
of
producers
that
may
want
to
create
and
produce
alcoholic
beverages,
but
do
not
have
the
capital
to
build
a
distillery
on
their
own
or
build
a
brewery
on
their
own,
or
something
like
that.
Q
So
this
allows
a
number
of
basically
brand
owners
to
come
together
and
potentially
pool
resources
to
create
or
use
one
premises
so
long
as
they
all
are
able
to
meet
the
requirements
to
with
how
much
they
produce
are
required
to
produce
under
their
license.
They
can
each
use
it
individually
in
order
to
sort
of
build,
build
their
brand
enough
to
where
they
could
potentially
start
their
own
without
others,
or
something
like
that.
Q
They
haven't
been,
they
have
not
been
interpreted
to
to
be
allowed
under
the
law,
but
that's
the
understand
that
was
just
an
understanding
based
upon
you
know,
one
way
that
the
law
could
be
interpreted.
This
is
taking
that
in
a
different
direction.
Well
within
the
law,
but
making
it
official
that
this
is.
This
is
a
legal
arrangement.
K
K
F
K
ar12010
amends
to
clarify
regulation
is
limited
to
a
life
or
health
insurer,
issuing
a
policy
as
defined
in
section
3,
and
that
the
regulation
applies
to
individual
and
group
accident
and
sickness
insurance
advertisements
into
a
form
by
reference.
806
kr
1407
amends
to
incorporate
an
updated
form
and
address
fee
filing
inconsistencies
with
other
regulations.
R
D
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
both
of
you.
There
are
staff
amendments
to
both
of
these
regulations.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval?
There
is
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second?
There
is
a
second
without
objection,
it
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
members
of
this
subcommittee
appearing
to
see
no
questions?
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
Please
call
the
next
regulation
thank.
A
A
D
D
N
N
The
agency
amendment
amends
section
2
to
make
a
technical
correction
and
delete
subsection
1e,
which
required
guidelines
to
contact,
refer
and
obtain
treatment
for
a
patient
who
needs
emergency
or
higher
level
of
care
services.
These
same
amendments
were
approved
for
the
emergency
version
of
this
regulation.
At
the
december
meeting
of
the
interim
joint
committee
on
health,
welfare
and
family
services,.
A
C
A
D
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
today.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
specific
regulation.
Last
time
I
know
senator
alvarado
had
a
lot
of
questions
before
we
proceed
with
questions.
There
is
an
agency
amendment
to
this
regulation.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agency
amendment
senator
alvarado
has
some
discussion
or
a
question
question
on
the
agency
amendment
more.
E
Just
a
comment
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
changes
you've
made.
I
know
this
was
kind
of
brought
before
our
health
and
welfare
with
the
emergency
reg,
where
the
changes
were
made.
So
this
makes
it
much
much
much
better
a
lot
of
the
concerns
we
had.
I
think
we're
addressed
and
I
think
kevin
and
got
some
feedback
from
board
of
medical
licensure
as
well,
and
a
lot
of
people
said
yeah
that
needed
a
change.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
changes.
I
would
make
a
motion
accepted.
D
D
D
F
902
kar
2460e
establishes
guidelines
for
implementation
of
essential
personal
care,
essential,
compassionate
care
and
end-of-life
visitor
programs
and
long-term
care
facilities
during
the
covet
19
pandemic.
In
accordance
with
new
legislation,
906
kar
1
180
amends
provisions
to
comply
also
with
new
legislation
concerning
dementia-specific
training
for
direct
care
staff
members
and
to
update
provisions
relating
to
the
requirement
for
personal
services
agency
staff
to
submit
to
a
check
of
the
adult
caregiver
misconduct
registry.
The
staff
suggested
amendment
to
906.
Kr1180
amends
to
transfer
language
from
section
1
to
section
7
and
various
sections
to
comply
with
13a.
D
K
G
G
K
G
K
E
E
This
allows
one
individual
to
be
designated
as
an
essential
visitor
and
then
that
person
would
have
to
probably
go
through
a
lot
of
the
same
testing
and
things
that
are
required
from
the
employees
and
do
those
sorts
of
things,
but
that
one
person
that
could
be
designated
to
come
in
and
address
that
person's
issues
to
kind
of
be
that
link
to
the
outside
world.
I
think-
and
I
see
that
section
two
addresses
a
lot
of
that
in
the
regulation
in
terms
of
designating
one
individual
to
do
that.
E
D
Thank
you
and
again,
as
as
senator
alvarado
stated,
we
do
appreciate
the
the
willingness
to
make
this
happen.
I
know
that
was
very
difficult
for
so
many
people
in
that
in
that
difficult
time
and
and
we're
glad
that
we've
we've
got
that
now
established
that
we
can
have
someone
there
to
communicate
and
so
again
thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
you
personally
myself.
P
This
regulation
establishes
the
process
for
submitting
curricula
for
cabinet
approval
that
will
meet
the
minimum
training
requirements
for
direct
care
staff
serving
individuals
exhibiting
symptoms
of
alzheimer's
or
other
dementias.
The
staff
suggested
amendment
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
keras
chapter
13a
and
make
technical
changes.
R
R
D
D
E
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
My
understanding.
This
is
regulations
in
response
to
senate
bill
61
that
was
passed
from
last
year,
and
I
see
that
the
head's
going
up
and
down.
So
I'm
assuming
it's
from
that.
I
know
when
we
had
that
bill
before
my
committee.
I
had
to
do
with
predominantly
home
health
services
and
people
that
were
home
health
going
into
people's
homes
to
address
concerns
to
make
sure
they
had
adequate
training.
E
For
that,
when
I
read
the
the
subcommittee
substitute,
it
seems
to
go
beyond
that
in
the
regulation,
and
I'm
hoping
you
could
address
some
of
that,
because
my
concern
is
always
with
regulations
that
it's
not
response
to
what
we're
passing
but
we're
creating
language
outside
of
what
that
bill
originally
was
meant
to
do
that's
my
concern.
Training
is
great.
People
need
to
be
trained
on
knowing
how
to
recognize
aspects
of
dementia,
and
I
deal
with
this
in
my
life
every
day
in
what
I
do
for
a
living.
E
My
worry
is
that
we're
having
regulations
that
are
going
beyond
the
scope
of
what
that
original
bill
was
meant
to
do
so.
Maybe
you
could
address
because
the
way
I'm
reading
this
this
goes
beyond
just
home
health
service
agencies,
it'll
go
to
personal
care
provider,
agencies
which
seems
to
branch
off
into
assisted
living
facilities,
personal
care
homes,
etc.
Could
you
address
some
of
that.
R
Absolutely
senator
specifically
within
216
713,
as
cited
one
through
three.
It
states
that
this
regulation
would
work
with
individuals
who
receive
services
that
are
in
facilities
in
which
they
provide
services
to
individuals
to
exhibit
alzheimer's
disease
or
other
dementias,
and
therefore
assist
the
living
communities
would
encounter.
Encapsulate
this
entity
to
meet
the
statutory
regulatory
requirements.
E
All
right
that
that's
a
bit
broader,
I
mean,
like
I
said:
I'm
not
about
people
need
training
and
that's
fine.
I
know
when
senate
bill
61
was
passed
and
that
was
senator
meredith's
bill.
I
believe
it
was
regarding
home
health
services
and
that's
how
I
think
how
it
was
even
put
on
our
agenda
and
that's
what
was
discussed
was
the
need.
This
probably
goes
a
bit
beyond
that.
E
E
No,
I
and
I,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
reading
I
got
the
bill
in
front
of
me,
so
I'm
looking
at
definitions
of
the
bill
and
under
the
definitions,
facilities
or
programs
means
residential
facilities
or
home
and
community-based
service
programs
and
include
they're,
not
limited
to
personal
service
agencies
and
home
health
agencies
that
have
residents
or
program
participants
who
exhibit
symptoms
of
alzheimer's
disease
or
other
dementia.
I
know
this
language
is
what
came
out
of
our
dementia
task
force
a
couple
of
years
ago.
E
This
was
a
bill
that
was
a
product
of
that
I'm
not
going
to
make
any
recommendations,
it'd
be
tabled
or
deferred.
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
My
only
concern
is
that
that
you
know
it
was
that
bill
was
supposed
to
be
for
home
health
agencies.
This
is
something
I
don't
disagree
with.
People
need
training
in
this
field
to
recognize
these
things.
I
just
it
has
a
larger
ramification
than
that,
but
the
way
the
bill
is
drafted,
it's
pretty
specific
and
it
I
think
it
does
include
that.