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A
A
Here
all
right
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
A
Nobody
objects,
the
money
minutes
are
approved,
Jenny
is
going
to
now
report
the
information
items.
C
Pursuant
to
KRS
45.765
UK
reported
three
equipment
purchases
funded
with
restricted
funds
pursuant
to
KRS
45.8121
six
school
districts,
none
of
which
needed
an
additional
tax
levy
to
pay
debt
service
report.
Upcoming
debt
issues
to
finance
new
projects.
The
school
districts
were
Pineville,
independent,
Boyd,
County,
Clay,
County,
Harrison,
County,
Johnson,
County
and
Kenton
County,
and
pursuant
to
krs-48.116a,
the
finance
and
administration
cabinet
reported
three
advertisements
for
invitations
to
lease
space,
with
an
anticipated
cost
above
200
000
for
the
Cabinet
for
Health
and
Family
Services.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Jen
we're
going
to
invite
Meg
Campbell.
A
Here
all
right,
thank
you.
Meg
before
you
get
started,
can
I
get
a
motion.
We
Roll.
These
two
together
got
a
motion
representative
Aaron,
second
representative,
Thomas,
any
objects
injections.
A
All
right
motion
carried
Miss
Campbell.
You
may
begin.
D
So
I'm
reporting
on
the
appropriation
increase
for
medical,
Towers,
55A,
vivarium
and
the
project
came
in
over
budget.
It
was
was
bid
right
before
covet
and
then
came
in
over.
So
we
have
that
increased
two
million
dollars
and
we've
covered
that
with
internal
School,
Medicine
fees
and
then
our
other.
Our
next
item
is
Elise
modification.
D
We
have
a
department
that
is
growing.
The
lease
will
increase
almost
to
just
over
one
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
All
right,
we
have
any
questions
all
right.
We've
got
a
question.
E
Or
two
on
the
on
the
construction
issue,
if
I
remember
right
in
the
materials
that
started
back
in
in
2020
or
earlier,
is
that
correct.
D
E
So
I
just
want
you
to
help
me
understand
if
you
will
and
I
understand,
there's
lag
and
and
Federal
grant
program
and
other
Grant
programs,
but
starting
at
18,
and
maybe
that
culminated
in
20
we're
setting
in
23.
There
were
estimates
of
how
much
the
project
would
cost.
I
assume
in
2020
and
earlier
are
the
estimates
that
were
being
used.
That.
E
Then
we've
got
a
three-year
intervening
period
where
I'm
not
going
to
say
nothing
takes
place,
but
apparently
inflationary
forces
were
at
work
and
you
have
to
wonder
whether
or
not
if
the
project
had
moved
faster,
whether
some
of
the
inflationary
pressures
would
have
been
avoided.
D
The
we
were
not
able
to
start
the
project
until
20
late
2020,
because
it
was
awarded
in
September
of
2020.
Then
we
had
to
do
design
documents
and
actually
all
the
architectural
pricing
came
in
right.
It
was
the
HVAC
dollars
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
across
the
board,
regardless
that
our
HVAC
numbers
are
coming
in
almost
double.
So
that
was
our
big
charge.
That
was
the
bigger
charge
we
weren't
able
to
start.
E
To
be
absolutely
honest
with
you,
I
had
to
look
that
word
up
to
make
sure
I
understood
exactly
what
that
entailed
and
now
I
know
much
more
about
it,
but
not
enough,
but
the
HVAC
we're
talking
about
if
I.
Remember,
writing.
Eight
million
dollar
that
went
going
to
a
10
million
dollar
is
that
right
on.
D
Primarily
and
then
additional
there's
some
additional
escalation
costs
in
there,
too
I
mean
there
were
some.
The
construction
costs
went
up,
but
not
the
way
that
the
construction
costs
went
up
around
10
percent
that
the
HVAC
cost
went
up,
50
it's
50
higher
than
what
was
initially
budgeted,
and
then
there
were
also
some.
She
has
there's
some
equipment
costs
that
had
that
are
in
that
as
well.
So
the
bike
we're
putting
in
a
fish
lab
all
of
those
aquineering
costs
are
gone
up.
E
So,
just
to
clear
my
conscience,
on
behalf
of
taxpayer
money
just
to
make
sure
or
taxpayer
oversight,
not
money,
but
could
this
project
have
moved
faster.
D
We
are
actually
ahead
of
the
deadline
date
that
they
had
that
the
NIH
has
given
us
by
eight
months.
So
we
are,
we
were
pushing
it
as
quickly
as
we
could.
We
actually
contemplated
pushing
it
out
further,
hoping
that
we
knew
numbers
were
going
to
escalate,
but
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
so
that
we
could
try
to
get
contractors
I
mean
it.
We
had
one
bidder,
we
couldn't
even
get
people
to
bid
this
project,
so
we
read
the
mercy
of
Bitters
and
escalation.
Yeah.
E
Again,
don't
don't
take
anything
by
those
questions,
it's
to
clear
my
conscience,
more.
A
F
Thank
you
for
allowing
further
questions
getting
to
the
the
question
that
I
thought
you
were
nearly
there.
The
design
versus
the
engineer
there
are
so
many
methods
that
can
speed.
That
process
is
that
one
that
we
might
need
to
consider
on
other
projects
is
the
design
necessary,
like
I,
recognize,
there's
like
a
and
I'm,
not
in
construction,
but
I've
been
on
a
number
of
the
projects
where
you
can
be
designing
and
constructing
almost
within
the
same
time,
because
there's
only
so
many
parameters
that
you
can
stretch
there
is.
D
So
you
could,
if
you
do
design
build.
This
is
an
NIH
Grant.
An
NIH
Grant
does
not
allow
that
an
NIH
Grant
is
laid
out.
They
give
you
step
by
step
by
step
of
what
you
have
to
do
so,
for
example,
when
we
got
the
approval
that
we
won
the
grant,
they
give
you
a
window
of
time
to
get
your
documents
together
after
you
get
your
document,
you
know
your
first
set
of
documents,
your
schematic
design.
Then
it
has
to
go
back
to
the
NIH
and
they
require
they
will
get.
D
They
tell
you,
they
will
get
the
documents
and
the
approval
back
to
you
from
anywhere
from
30
days
to
three
months.
So
once
you
get
your
documents
in
and
we
were
always
trying
to
get
them
early
to
expedite,
it
still
took
our
longest
time
for
review
and
approval
from
the
NIH
was
about.
It
was
right
at
three
months.
D
D
F
Yeah,
it
is
interesting,
the
the
cost
of
time
yeah
no
cost
of
time.
Yeah.
D
And-
and
we
have
heard
back
from
them
on
this
particular
Grant-
they
offer
I,
don't
know
how
many
co6
grants
they
award
each
year
but
of
the
others
we're
trying
to
get
more
money,
because
everybody
has
run
into
this
with
the
NIH
but
they're
not
giving
any
additional
funds.
A
Ask
all
right!
Thank
you,
any
other
questions
for
anybody
all
right
if
we
can
get
a
motion
to
approve.
A
B
A
We
have
got
all
right
and
I'll
yeah
here
withdrawal.
Second,
we
are
going
to
do.
Can
you
report
on
Mary
State
because
we
rolled
them
together?
There
Meg,
oh
Jackie,
Dudley's
gonna,
do
marriage
date.
G
Mr
chairman,
yes,
Mr
chairman
this
is
this-
is
Jordan
Smith
from
Murray
State,
University
I'm,
our
executive
director
of
government
relations
and
I
have
with
me
Beth
Ward,
our
director
of
procurement
and
we're
actually
here
on
vice
president
Jackie
Dudley's
behalf.
G
All
right:
well,
we
we
have
on
the.
H
Like
we
may
have
lost
Jordan,
so
this
is
also
related
to
NIH
grants.
This
is
for
a
Zeiss.
My
microscope
would
be
used
in
our
biology.
Department
in
some
genetic
research
uses
the
microscope,
total
cost
of
the
microscope
is
587
682.
H
A
Petrie
second,
for
my
co-chair,
Madam
Secretary,
will
you
please
call
the
roll.
G
A
A
I
I
I
I
I
They
are
leasing
space
in
Lexington
on
Wellington
way,
it's
35,
219
square
feet
and
the
services
they
offer
have
increased
significantly
and
their
clean
room
or
their
cool
room
wasn't
staying
cool
enough
and
we
had
to
install
some
additional
cooling
equipment
to
serve
just
that
area.
It
only
doesn't
serve
any
other
part
of
the
building,
just
the
clean
area,
the
cost.
A
And
I'm
rattled
now
anybody
got
any
questions
for
her
Miss
Baker,
all
right,
Meg.
D
Okay,
so
I
we
have
a
lease
with
the
Ryan
White
program
that
has
expanded
their
the
program.
The
program
has
grown
and
they
have
just
inched
over
that
hundred
thousand
dollar
limit.
So
we
are
requesting
a
lease
modification
based
on
that.
A
All
right,
we
got
any
more
questions
for
any
of
this
all
right,
if
not
I'm,
going
to
entertain
a
motion.
You've
got
a
motion
from
Central
web
second
from
last
name:
first
name
guy,
all
right
and
Madam
Secretary
Colorado.
A
A
K
You
so,
as
I
was
getting
ready
to
say,
we've
got
four
items
today.
Two
of
them
are
going
to
be
action
items
and
two
are
reporting
items
of
pool
projects.
The
first
item
to
report
for
Action
is
an
emergency
repair,
maintenance
or
replacement
project.
It's
for
the
tourism,
Arts
and
Heritage
cabinet
department
of
parks
and
it's
the
Jenny
Wiley
Marina
electrical
repair.
The
amount
is
350
000
and
it's
funded
from
the
emergency
repair
maintenance
and
replacement
account.
K
K
The
next
item
is
a
Capital,
Construction
and
Equipment
purchase
contingency
fund
allocation.
This
is
for
the
finance
and
administration
cabinet
facilities
and
support
services.
This
is
for
the
finance
cabinet
relocation
in
the
amount
of
three
million
five
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
to
cover
the
associated
moving
costs
relative
to
relative
to
further
reconfiguration
of
the
existing
space.
On
the
fifth
floor
and
file
made
a
great
mint
migration
Services
sorry
to
allow
for
the
new
occupants
to
efficiently
occupy
the
new
space.
Authority
is
pursuant
to
KRS
45770
paragraph
four.
A
Reports
we
may
have
any
questions
on
these
two.
All
right,
representative,.
E
K
L
The
the
first
we
learned
about
it
was
April
of
this
year
when
there
was
some
arcing
in
the
water
that
was
was
seen
and
from
that
Parks
reacted
and
started.
Shutting
down
access
to
doxy
I.
E
Know
there
was
additional
money,
let
this
last
session,
part
of
it
on
Jenny
Wiley.
Was
this
anticipated
to
be
included
in
electrical
upgrades,
and
this
just
Hasting
this
particular
issue,
or
was
this
a
completely
un
accounted
for
system
failure
that
would
not
have
been
on
anyone's
radar
previously
I'm.
L
Not
aware
of
any
project
that
was
going
to
upgrade
the
electrical
system
until
the
the
failure
I'm
not
aware
of
it
parts
we.
E
A
E
Yes,
yes,
okay,
and
that
was
completed
about
how
long
ago.
L
We're
still
in
the
process,
we've
broken
into
two
phases:
the
the
move
happened,
I
think
every
everybody
was
out
of
the
annex
in
December
and
we
had
to
construct
some
offices
very,
very
quickly
to
get
people
in
and
now
we're
going
into
phase
two,
which
is
rearranging
the
current
Furniture
to
get
departments
set
up.
We're
going
to
be
building
a
couple
of
offices
that
weren't
in
existence.
It
was
a
basically
a
cube
farm
with
a
few
offices
now
are
building
some
additional
offices.
K
Proposed
three
million
five:
thirty
three
for
additional
offices.
L
Well,
the
lighting
sprinkler
systems,
it's
it's
an
underfloor
plenum
we
had
to.
We
were
thinking.
We
could
just
move
some
of
the
VAV
boxes,
but
the
system
is
so
old.
We
had
to
replace
some
of
the
VAV
boxes,
so
it
was
more
than
just
building
some
offices.
There
was
file
storage,
some
secure
data
for
I,
believe
the
controller's
office.
So
there's
more
than
just
a.
E
Four
Mill
Mark
is
that
right,
and
this
is
phase
two
yes
in
phase
three,
not
one
there
will
be
no
phase
three
Sure
hold
on.
There
is
no
anticipated
plant
or
hope
for
phase
three.
No.
This
is
this
concludes
the
move,
no
more
furniture,
no
more
lighting,
no
more
walls,
no
more
we're
finished.
We're
finished.
L
E
M
Webb,
thank
you
I
apologize
that
was
thrust
upon
y'all
in
in
a
fashion
where
you
had
to
really
scramble
to
get
that
done.
Did
you
have
any
projections
when
we
forced
your
move
about
how
much
it
would
cost,
or
did
you
have
any
idea
at
all?
Did
you
present
if
you
presented
it,
I've
forgotten
it?
Any
projections
on
the
anticipated
move.
L
E
Great
follow-up
on
that
I've
got
a
feeling
that
the
renovated
floor
at
Miro.
Street
is
a
much
better
accommodation
than
where
you
were
in
the
annex
would
be
my
guess
or
to
be
renovated.
Floor.
L
The
the
you
know,
people
had
Offices
here
sure
they're
moving
into
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
into
cubicles
at
hat
offices.
So
there's
some,
you
know
growing
pains
with
it,
but
it's
it's
a
nice
building,
really
it's
an
old
building,
not
as
old
as
this
one
but
plentiful
parking.
A
A
Long
can
I
get
a
motion
got
a
motion:
Senator
web
representative
parents;
second
Madam
Secretary,
Caldwell,.
B
K
K
Sir,
so
last
two
items
are
just
reporting
of
pool
projects,
excess
of
a
million
dollars
reporting
this
in
accordance
with
the
current
budget,
Bill
House
Bill,
one
part
two:
tourism,
Arts
and
Heritage.
Both
of
these
are
from
the
tourism
Arts
and
Heritage
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
they're,
both
Philo
the
first
one
is
Dodge
Gap
Jefferson,
County
Memorial
Forest
project,
the
amount
of
that
is
2.1
million
dollars,
and
it's
funded
from
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
fees
in
lieu
of
extreme
mitigation
pool
this
project.
A
Have
any
questions
no
question?
Senator
funky
from
our.
F
Thank
you
because
I'm
new
I
tend
to
ask
a
few
more
questions
and
just
to
better
understand
in
projects
like
this.
Are
there
students
that
are
involved
any
of
our
University
students
that
might
be
pursuing
conservation
or
pursuing
these
sorts
of
degrees?
Does
that
help
us
manage
the
cost
of
some
of
these
projects?.
K
N
Thank
you
can
y'all
hear
me,
my
name,
is
you
don't
hear
me
yeah.
A
N
My
name
is
Jesse
Bowles,
with
Kentucky
fish
and
wildlife,
Wetland
and
stream
program.
I'm,
a
project
manager
here
and
I'll,
be
the
project
manager
for
both
of
these
projects,
and
we
typically
don't
involve
students
or
universities
in
our
everyday
projects.
But
sometimes
we
do
contract
through
different
universities
to
do
monitoring
or
studies
as
part
of
our
program.
So.
L
A
M
I'll
just
add
to
that
these
filo
projects
are
federal
and
they're
highly
regulated
projects
to
ReStore,
Habitat
and
there's
a
structure
you
have
to
operate
in.
That's
pretty
stringent
in
order
to
retain
that
money
and
get
that
money
and
like
he
said
you
know,
they
do
include
universities
and
projects
for
monitoring,
but
it's
I'm
just
glad
to
see
the
money
moving.
Y'all
we've
got
funds
that
are
backed
up
there
and
we're
just
glad
to
see
these
projects
going.
So
thank
you.
F
How
can
we
again
thinking
from
a
taxpayer
perspective
and,
of
course,
we're
also
Federal
taxpayers,
so
these
are
federal
dollars
that
we've
all
paid
into?
How
can
we
maybe
coordinate
with
our
educational
system?
We
have
a
priority
for
education
in
Kentucky
as
well.
I
just
see
this
as
such
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
Workforce
preparation,
and
you
then
graduate
people
that
actually
do
have
experience
being
good
stewards
of
federal
projects,
as
well
as
state
projects.
N
N
We
actually
do
some
of
the
different
Contracting
with
different
universities
on
different
portions
of
our
program,
we're
actually
doing
an
after
action
review
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
on
our
program
and
we're
actually
contracted
to
the
University
of
Kentucky
on
that
in
action
in
the
University
of
we're
using
the
University
of
Louisville
on
a
few
projects
as
well,
they
are
our
lead
design
team.
N
F
A
A
J
Go
ahead.
Okay.
The
first
item
I,
have
is
a
modification
of
the
original
emergency
lease
for
the
Department
of
Corrections
in
Graves
County.
The
division
of
rural
property
is
advertised
for
long-term
temporary
Lease
Office
Space,
since
only
two
agencies
lease
space.
Instead
of
the
four
original
agencies
we
modified
the
original
emergency
lease.
The
only
response
received
was
from
the
current
lessor.
J
The
second
item
I,
have
is
a
modification
of
the
original
emergency
lease
for
the
Cabinet
for
Health
and
Family
Services
in
Graves
County.
The
division
of
rural
property
is
advertised
for
long-term
temporary
lease
office
space
and
since
only
two
agencies
lease
the
space.
Instead,
instead
of
the
original
four
agencies,
we
modify
the
original
emergency
lease.
The
only
response
was
received
from
the
current
list.
So
therefore,
this
lease
is
modification
was
entered
into
March
16th
of
23
for
7410
square
feet
of
office
space.
J
last
item
is
a
new
lease
for
the
transportation
cabinet
in
Bradford
County
temporary
housing
was
needed
for
families
whose
houses
were
damaged
by
flooding
that
occurred
in
July
of
last
year.
The
lease
properties
provide
sites
with
basic
utility
hookups
to
place
non-congregate
shelters.
Therefore,
leases
were
procured
through
non-competitive
negotiations.
As
a
result,
the
Commonwealth
entered
into
a
lease
for
45
suitable
Lots.
The
lots
are
at
least
on
a
month-to-month
basis,
at
a
cost
of
one
hundred
dollars
per
site
per
month
and
may
be
canceled
without
calls.
By
giving
30
days,
written
notice.
A
All
right,
we
have
any
questions
for
Scott.
A
Next,
we're
going
to
have
a
report
from
office
of
financial
management
and
we're
going
to
have
several
witnesses.
It
looks
like,
but
we're
going
to
roll
I'd
like
to
get
a
motion
to
roll
the
loans
and
the
grants
into
one
call
vote.
If
we
can
got
a
motion
from
my
co-chair.
A
We
got
finally
forced
representative
Petrie
to
Second
it.
Thank
you.
If
there
are
no
objection,
will
you
we
all
may
proceed.
O
O
First
is
a
fund
B
infrastructure,
revolving
fund
loan,
Mayfield,
electric
and
water
systems
fund
V
Loan
in
the
amount
of
eight
million
dollars,
is
for
their
Pilgrims
Pride
substation
project.
This
project
is
the
construction
of
a
69-13
kilovolt,
electric
utility
substation,
along
with
approximately
a
half
mile
of
69
kilovolt
transmission
line.
The
distribution
lines
will
be
added
to
serve
the
new
load
and
to
integrate
this
substation
into
the
distribution
system.
This
will
be
a
20-year
loan
with
a
half
percent
interest
rate
and
was
approved
at
the
May
4th
Kaa
board
meeting.
O
O
The
project
is
the
replacement
of
approximately
19
000
linear
feet
of
various
sized
water
veins.
There
will
be
a
replacement
of
50
water,
hydrant
assemblies
and
installation
of
valves
between
the
hydrant
and
the
water
main.
In
addition,
the
project
will
include
the
rehabilitation
of
three
storage
tanks
and
replacement
of
40
water
meters.
O
Many
of
the
city's
existing
water
lines
are
compromised,
they're,
old
and
unlined
galvanized
and
cast
iron
pipes,
which
are
subject
to
corrosion
and
have
low
pressure,
and
they
require
continuous
repairs
which
leads
to
excessive
operation
and
maintenance
costs.
This
project
will
alleviate
those
concerns.
O
This
20-year
loan
will
have
an
interest
rate
of
1.25
percent
and
was
approved
at
the
May
4th
Kaa
board
meeting.
The
last
loan
is
the
Northern
Kentucky
Water
District's
fund,
f
Loan
in
the
amount
of
four
million
dollars
which
will
be
used
for
construction
of
the
Newport
and
Ovation
water
main
replacement
project.
The
project
will
involve
replacement
of
approximately
25
000
linear
feet
of
Aging
water
line
that
experiences
a
high
incidence
of
breakage
and
low
flows.
O
Water
mains
will
be
upgraded
to
the
minimum
standard
size
to
improve
system
capacity
and
redundancy.
The
overall
project
will
reduce
water,
main
breaks,
water
loss,
service
disruptions
and
limit
the
possibility
of
contaminants
entering
the
system.
This
20-year
loan
will
have
a
2.25
interest
rate
and
was
also
approved
at
the
May
4th
Ka
board
meeting
before
cleaner
water
grants
for
the
committee's
review.
Today,
two
of
those
grants
are
from
fiscal
year
21.
They
are
project
reallocations
to
the
same
utility
within
the
same
county
that
had
previous
that
had
previously
been
reported
to
this
committee.
O
The
two
grants
from
fiscal
year
2022
are
also
project
reallocations
to
the
same
utility
within
the
same
county.
One
of
those
grants
had
previously
been
reported
to
this
committee
and
is
designated
as
a
reallocation
and
Senator
Webb.
I
would
like
to
report
that
one
of
those
utilities
is
I
believe
in
your
district,
and
that
concludes
my
report
today.
A
All
right,
we've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
One
thing:
I've
got
a
concern
about
you,
keep
replacing
all
these
old
things
and
I'm
68
years
old
today,
and
you
keep
reminding
me
that
I'm
replaceable,
so
it's
really
I've
got
some
PTSD
over
this,
so
Senator
Pro,
Meyer.
F
Do
we
refer
to
you
as
the
old
pipes
or.
F
Sandy.
Thank
you
for
this
detail
when
this
is
part
of
my
Senate
District
too.
Thank
you.
This
Northern
yeah
with
the
Ovation
in
Newport
and
when
I
was
looking
at
the
the
comparison
of
the
three,
the
eight
million
that
will
have
a
half
a
percent
interest
and
then
the
4.2
that
will
have
1.25
and
then
the
2.25.
What
what
determines
the
differences
on
the
interest
rate.
O
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.
That's
a
really
astute
question,
so
we
do
offer
different
interest
rates
here
at
the
Kentucky
infrastructure
Authority
and
it's
based
on
the
systems
median
household
income,
so
for
systems
that
have
a
an
mhi
at
or
above
the
state's
mhi.
They
get
our
standard
interest
rate,
which
is
the
highest
rate.
If
the
utility
service
area
has
an
mhi
between
80
percent
of
the
state
up
to
the
state's
mhi,
they
get
a
lower
rate.
So
that
would
be
that
middle
rate
you
see
and
then
below.
O
80
percent
of
the
state's
mhi
is
that
third
or
lowest
interest
rate
that
we
do
offer.
O
It
is
so
if
you,
if
you
will
allow
me,
to
paraphrase
it's
52,
000
and
change,
okay,.
E
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
I.
Need
you
to
help
me
understand
something?
Okay,
and
this
is
not
a
setup.
This
is
informational
as
what
it
is.
Okay,
I'm
in
some
of
the
summary
that
I'm
looking
at
there's
a
reference
to
a
principle
forgiveness
component
with
each
of
these
three
loans,
and
they
vary
in
amounts
and
somewhat
like
the
question
of
senator
from
Meyer.
So
what
factors
or
consideration
goes
into
how
those
are
categorized
and
how
they're
handled
with
the
amounts,
if
any
of
principal
forgiveness,
please
just
a
summary
of
it-
would
be
great.
Yes,.