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B
C
D
E
F
E
Aye
motion
carries
total
nine
total
number
of
items
on
the
agenda.
Today
we
have
575
in
the
amount
of
371
million
219,
000,
91
and
73
cents.
All
vendor
vendors
are
registered
with
the
secretary
of
state's
office.
Next
is
the
deferred
list,
which
is
from
the
august
psc
amendment
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
B
G
G
E
All
right,
any
any
luck.
E
Yeah
any
we
seem
to
be
okay
on
our
side,
any
anything
you
can
change
on
your
side.
E
Okay:
here's
what
we're
gonna
do
while
we're
getting
some
it
people
to
address
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
go
on
to
the
next
step
here,
which
is
consideration
of
the
agenda,
including
the
corrections
list,
not
the
deferred
list,
it'll
be
the
corrections
list,
the
person,
personal
service
contract
list,
psc
amendment
list,
memoranda
of
agreement
list,
memorandum
of
agreement,
amendment
list
and
the
kentucky
entertainment
incentive
program
agreement
list,
except
for
those
items
selected
for
further
review.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
consider
the
contract
reviews
without
an
objection
motion
by
coach
chairman
meredith?
E
Local
government
are
you
here
because
we
are
going.
They
requested
to
go
next
because
they
have
a
workshop
this
morning,
so
next
item's
on
the
poll
list
of
department
of
local
government
and
they
are
number
33,
34,
40,
46
and
62
on
the
routine
moa
pink
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
E
K
K
The
number
33
park,
land
acquisition
and
county
park
development
and
we're
using
local
government
economic
development
fund
monies
for
it.
What
I'm
wanting
to
look
at
is
in
this
fund
is
any
of
this
cushion
for
maintenance
and
repairs
for
the
future.
I
mean
I'm
thinking
if
we're
acquiring
land
and
building
something
new,
then
I'm
looking
at
what
are
the
going
to
be
the
tail
costs
after
that?
Is
there
a
funding
source
built
into
this,
or
is
that
going
to
come
from?
We
hope
later
kind
of?
What's
the
structure
of
this
money.
J
That
would
have
to
be
something
that
I
would
have
to
follow
up
with
the
fiscal
court
on
what
their
plans
are
to
do
later.
If
there's
another
phase
to
this,
but
as
as
far
as
being
included
in
the
scope
of
work
for
this
contract,
that
was
not
an
item.
K
Okay
on
number
34,
it
says
roof
renovation
and
we're
doing
county
courthouse.
Roof
renovations,
also
paid
from
the
same
economic
development
funds.
Is
there
criteria
around?
What
constitutes
economic
development
and
maintenance
on
county
buildings
is
included
in
economic
development.
J
So
basically,
this
is
a
project
that
received
legislative
concurrence
from
two
of
your
colleagues
in
the
general
assembly,
which
allows
them
to
use
these
funds
for
this
scope
of
work.
K
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
number
40.
K
Number
40
is
pathways
where
we're
doing
a
recovery
house
looks
like
and
I'm
familiar.
We
see
these
all
the
time,
but
we
never
see
them
in
department
for
local
government.
So
I'm
wondering
with
all
of
the
substance
recovery
funds
out
there.
Are
we
using
funds
for
this?
That
could
be
used
for
other
things
where
this
really
should
be
funded
through
a
substance
recovery
only
fund,
or
is
this
a
substance
on
recovery
fund?
It
just
happens
to
go
through
dlg.
We
don't
know
about
it.
L
Hud
has
put
out
about
20,
put
out
25
million
dollars
for
transitional
or
recovery
housing
only
kentucky
the
first
two
years.
We
got
two
million
dollars
and
this
this
is
a
special
hud
program
that
must
go
to
the
non-profits
such
as
pathways,
so
it
it
is
a
new
program
and
not
one.
You
would
have
seen
on
a
typical
dlg
contract
for
federal
funding
with
hud
before.
K
K
L
Well,
it's
like
the
regular
cdbg
that
hub
gives
to
the
state
of
kentucky,
and
typically
our
cdbg
funds
can
only
go
to
cities
or
counties
because
we're
a
small,
the
worth
small
cities
component
of
cdbg.
But
these
funds
were
it's
a
brand
new
pilot
program
that
came
out
in
2020,
and
these
funds
are
specifically
to
be
used
by
for
recovery,
housing,
people
leaving
a
recovery
center
and
then
moving
on
having
a
stable
place
to
live
for
up
to
two
years.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
Moving
on
to
number
46,
this
contract
said
we're
providing
305
000
to
purchase,
equipment
and
lease
it
to
a
company,
and
it's
going
to
cost
us
15
000
in
admin
fees.
Can
you
get
us
an
idea
on
what
kind
of
company
are
we
buying
this
for
and
or
what
kind
of
lease
fees
are
they
paying?
Because
we
don't
have
any
of
that
information?
L
C
This
is
actually,
this
is
pretty
common
in
what
we
do
with
economic
development.
In
the
cdbg
program,
the
name
of
the
company
is
kentucky
lumber,
llc
and
they're
going
to
create
28
new
full-time,
equivalent
jobs
with
the
purchase
of
this
loan.
C
The
loan
is
for
at
two
percent
for
seven
years.
F
K
C
C
J
J
C
K
B
Yes,
excuse
me:
yes,
ma'am.
This
is
a
brand
new
treatment
plant
going
in
and
it
will
serve
the
city,
the
existing
city's
customers
within
buckhorn
and
northern
perry
county.
It
was
an
ongoing
issue
prior
to
flooding,
but
as
back
in
2018,
they
went
like
three
weeks
without
water
due
to
ongoing
issues.
So
with
the
building
of
this
new
plant,
it
will
provide
water,
improved
services
to
almost
1300
users
and
it'll
also
take
off
relieve
some
of
stress
on
the
hazard
plant.
B
That
now
serves
these
communities
because
they're
at
capacity
and
about
to
exceed,
and
they
cannot
produce
any
more
further
water
to
accommodate
the
ongoing
economic
development
that
is
happening
within
perry
county.
This
will
also
serve
the
two,
the
two
schools
and
the
cold
fields
industrial
park,
which
they
already
have
a
business
there.
That
is
wanting
to
add
another
line
which
will
meet
the
25
new
jobs
on
top
of
providing
improved
certain
water
services
to
the
existing
customers.
B
K
I
can
make
the
motion
we
can
approve
all
these.
Obviously,
for
reasons
stated,
you
know
some
of
these
things
pop
up
and
particularly
as
I'm
thinking
about
you
know,
land
acquisition
versus
maintenance
funds.
I
think
that's
something
we
all
care
about
is
do
we
have
the
money
when
we
go
into
things,
but
obviously
you
know
if
there's
no
further
parameters
and
everybody
agrees,
it
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
Then
you
know
hopefully,
next
year
they
also
have
enough
money
to
pay
for
the
maintenance
on
that.
K
So,
but
I'm
excited
about
this
water
we've
got
to
get
more
water
support
around
the
eastern
kentucky
area
in
particular,
so
make
a
motion
to
approve.
E
F
E
Aye
motion
carries
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
morning.
Okay,
do
you
know
if
we're
we
shouldn't,
we
should
be
able
to
hear
all
right
we're
going
to
go
back
to
our
deferred
list.
B
E
Welcome,
thank
you.
Are
you
by
yourself
this
morning?
I
am
all
right.
Chairman
meredith
has
questions.
B
M
Yeah,
I
think
our
discussion
last
month
was
on
the
order
of
the
fact
that
we've
got
a
system.
That's
going
over
50
years
old.
I
believe
and
we're
locked
into
this.
One
firm
looks
like
for
perpetuity
because
they
have
to
update
it
from
time
to
time,
and
I
think
my
question
was
is:
is
the
work
still
relevant?
Is
this
whole
process
still
what
we
need
this
given
this
day
and
time
and
are
there
other
alternatives
that
we
should
be
exploring
so
that
we're
not
locked
into
this
situation?.
B
I
and
to
answer
that
the
system
is
not
50
years
old,
we
have
been
in
contract
with
corn
ferry
to
utilize
their
methodology,
and
we
use
their
methodology
to
review
our
job
classifications
and
right
now.
We
are
currently
utilizing
them
to
assist
us
in
that
review,
to
expedite
the
review
and
to
finish
it
in
hopefully,
a
timely
manner.
M
I
was
under
the
impression
that
this
was
first
developed
back
in
the
70s.
Is
that
not
true.
M
B
M
B
M
M
B
Know
what's
the
best
we
believe
so
if
they
are
a
leader
in
the
nation,
their
34
states
utilize.
This
point
factoring
methodology
by
corn
ferry,
and
we
believe
that
it
is
still
a
methodology
that
we
would
utilize.
M
Well,
being
a
leader
is
a
relative
term
and
it's
it's
subject:
everybody's
interpretation
and
again
my
concern,
mr
chair,
is
that
we're
tied
to
a
system
that
we're
never
going
to
divorce
ourselves
from
we
don't
know
we're
getting
value
for
the
dollar.
It
continues
to
be
updated
continually,
but
I
don't
know
that
we're
getting
value
for
our
money.
So
that's
my
objection
to
it.
F
Quick
question
you
mentioned,
corn
ferry
being
in
34
states.
Have
we
ever
approached?
Obviously,
we've
had
corn
ferry
in
kentucky,
for
you
know
50
whatever
years,
but
have
we
ever
approached
other
firms
that
do
this
and
just
ask
them.
You
know
why.
Why
do
you
all
not
bid
on
ours?
Why?
F
K
Thank
you
I
the
way
I
understand
it.
We
are
in
the
middle
of
kind
of
a
three-year
process
of
getting
these
job
classifications
reviewed
so.
K
The
hesitancy
to
jump
ship
at
the
second,
while
we're
right
in
the
middle
of
a
10-year
process
for
three
years,
but
what
I'm
hearing
and
thinking
of
again,
I
can't
remember
like
two
months
ago
or
whenever
this
thing
started,
it
seemed
like
to
me:
it
was
like
a
not
feasible
to
bid
this
isn't
even
an
rfp
that
was
kind
of
the
initial
thing
that
got
us
started
on
this
whole
thing,
aside
from
them
being
from
our
co-chairs,
favorite
location.
K
And
so
if
this
committee
passes
through
with
this
this
year,
to
finish
this
project,
we
I
think
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn,
but
I
think
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
support
for
this
thing.
It
better
be
in
an
rfp
situation,
instead
of
not
feasible
to
bid
for,
I
guess,
50
years,
I'm
not
sure
because
it
seems
like
we
have
no
idea
what
the
value
is
that
we're
getting,
and
when
I'm
on
page
six
of
this
contract
breakdown
of
hourly
rates,
900
dollars
an
hour,
690
dollars
an
hour,
520
dollars
an
hour.
K
K
K
Now
we
got
300
job
classifications,
we're
doing
at
these
high
rates
and
the
time
frame
on
the
contract
is
through
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
in
24,
and
when
we
talked
last
month
we
said
the
goal
was
to
have
it
done
by
the
end
of
the
year,
and
I
have
seen
I've
reviewed
it
again
this
morning.
I've
seen
no
word
in
here
at
all
that
mentions
that
that
corn
fairy
is
under
the
understanding
that
they
need
to
get
this
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
K
B
Yes,
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
an
administrative
modification
to
add
project
plan
language,
so
so
that
corn
ferry
you
know
we
have.
They
are
aware
that
we
are
following
the
project
plan
and
the
dates
for
deliverables.
B
Have
to
ask
my
budget
office.
E
Motion
there's
a
motion
to
defer
this
contract.
Is
there
a
second.
M
M
I'll
show
you
folks,
who
are
a
fan
of
this
this
firm,
I'm
just
curious.
How
do
you
measure
success?
How
do
you
know
they're
doing
the
job
that
they're
supposed
to
be
doing.
B
Because
of
the
product
that
they
deliver
to
us
and
and
the
whenever
we
are
needing
consultative
services,
they
are
providing
to
that
to
us
in
a
timely
manner.
We
also
are
you
know,
a
member
of
the
national
state
personnel,
executive
association
and
the
compensation
association
of
state
governments
and
we're
aware
of
what
is
going
on
in
other
states,
and
we
feel
that
they
are
meeting
the
needs
of
kentucky.
B
Why
do
we
need
them?
Yes,
to
ensure
that
we
are
paying
our
employees
accurately,
and
you
know,
based
on
you
know,
we
also
need
this
based
on
the
merit
system
to
ensure
that
our
weight,
our
wages,
are
where
they
need
to
be,
and
even
the
knowledge,
even
if
we
don't
have
the
budget
to
do
so.
M
Then,
wouldn't
that
be
reflected
in
recruitment
and
retention
of
state
employees.
M
M
M
F
I
vote
yes,
explain
my
vote
or
actually,
I
guess
just
make
a
statement,
but
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
the
house
oversight
committee-
maybe
to
look
into
this.
I
mean
this
is
a
50-year
contract.
We
don't
know
if
we're
getting
a
good
deal.
We
don't
know
if
we're
going
about
this
the
best
way-
and
this
is
something
I
think
deserves
to
be
looked
at
after
50
years.
F
E
E
M
They
do,
and
I
pulled
this
contract
not
to
chastise
them,
which
usually
happens
when
you
bring
a
retroactive
contract
to
us,
but
to
commend
them.
Mr
lewis,
reached
out
to
me
two
or
three
weeks
ago
telling
me
this
contract
was
coming.
That's
what
I've
always
asked
folks
to
do
and
give
the
justification
for
it.
I
think
it
is
very
much
justified.
M
M
C
Certainly,
thank
you
senator.
This
is
a
retroactive
contract.
It
relates
to
one
of
our
surgical
mesh
cases.
Just
for
background
for
the
committee,
we've
had
multiple
matters
involving
surgical
mesh.
This
is
a
contract
that
originally
went
out
in
2016..
It's
been
renewed
multiple
times
because
of
ongoing
litigation.
Unfortunately,
there
was
a
clerical
error.
A
final
settlement
check
came
in
on
one
of
the
mesh
cases.
C
E
F
E
E
I
M
Thank
you
for
being
here
as
well,
and
I
go
to
the
explanation
that
you
folks
gave
us
and
my
point
of
concern
is
the
statement
says.
Negotiations
took
longer
than
expected
and
during
that
time
it
was
decided
that
the
pon-2
should
be
for
two
years
occurring
years,
two
and
three
of
the
project.
Instead
of
one,
as
we
now
know
the
budget
and
plan
for
the
third
day
of
the
project,
I
don't
understand
that
statement.
It
bothers
me
a
little
bit.
First
is
why
didn't
negotiation
take
longer
than
anticipated?
I
think.
I
I
We
went
back
to
the
vendor
because
we
did
not
really
like
the
budget
we
were
given
and
we
asked
to
renegotiate
a
few
points,
but
because
the
funding
timeline
is
different
than
the
state
fiscal
year,
we
had
some
issues
getting
everything
to
line
up,
and
so
we
just
pretty
much
asked
for
a
new
budget
and
renegotiated
some
of
the
timelines
in
relation
to
that
budget.
I
Of
one
two
years
takes
the
grant
to
the
end
of
the
grant
cycle,
because
this
funding
is
only
for
three
years,
so
we
had
a
first
contract
for
one
year
and
we
decided
that
so
much
work
would
be
done
and
some
of
the
timeline
would
overlap.
And
since
we
were
into
a
new
biennium
that
we
would
issue
the
grant
for
two
years
to
coincide
with
the
life
of
the
grant.
I
We
really
did
not
know
until
we
started
talking
to
the
vendor
a
little
bit
more,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
include
in
this
grant
is
technical
assistance
to
the
institutions
and
at
the
time
we
were
trying
to
reevaluate
how
much
of
that
technical
assistance
we
would
provide
directly
and
how
much
we
did
not
have
capacity
to
provide
which
we
would
reach
out
to
this
vendor
to
help
us
facilitate
that
process.
I
I
Their
board
of
trustees
approved
a
grant,
not
a
grant
proposal,
but
a
plan
submitted
by
the
sova
foundation
to
create
a
kentucky
student
success
center.
The
cpe
we
found
out
that
this
was
happening
and
we
asked
a
year
after
this
plan
was
created
to
become
a
member
of
those
conversations
to
be
invited
to
that
table.
N
M
M
M
M
E
E
B
M
Reading
from
the
explanation
that
we're
given
from
this
again,
it
says
that
cpe
was
looking
at
reissuing.
The
bid
for
the
rfps
excuse
me
again.
Cp
was
looking
at
reissuing
the
bids,
but
rfps
are
a
lengthy
process
with
no
guarantee
of
receiving
responsive,
reasonable
bids
and
re-bidding.
The
rfp
would
only
increase
the
delay
of
these
needed
student
services
and
and
so
forth,
and
it
also
says
that
in
the
original
rfp
that
this
company
that
we're
awarding
this
to
didn't
submit
a
response
to
rfp
either.
I
Correct
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
situation,
so
in
2020,
which
is
when
the
original
contract
began
and
when
we
tried
to
receive
bids
for
these
services,
we
only
had
one
company
respond,
but
because
this
money-
and
it's
a
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
a
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
that
is
used
amongst
up
to
twelve
different
school
districts
in
the
state.
So
it
services
a
couple
thousand
of
state
students,
the
company
that
did
submit
a
proposal
submitted
it.
I
But
it
was
one
of
those
bait
and
switch
situations
where
it's
like
yeah.
We
know
you
asked
for
this,
but
if
you
up
your
contract
by
this
much,
we
can
offer
you
all
of
these
other
nice
things
and
we
just
could
not
afford
to
do
that.
It
did
not
fit
our
mold,
and
so
we
went
back
to
the
drawing
board.
We
tried
to
reissue
the
rfp
again
without
success.
I
Then
we
started
reaching
out
to
other
gear
up
programs
around
the
nation
who
had
similar
projects
to
ask
what
they
did,
how
they,
who
they
use
like
the
platform
that
they
had
built
around
this,
and
that's
how
we
came
up
with
this
vendor.
In
the
beginning,
the
contract
was
not
this
much.
It
was
a
very
small
contract,
which
was
one
of
the
reasons
companies
did
not
want
to
bid
on
it.
M
F
I
Type
of
services
could
be
provided
because
we
also
have
staff
in
these
schools
that
provide
some
of
these
services
as
well,
and
they
just
did
not
have
the
capacity
to
keep
up
with
various
mentoring
services.
So
this
was
kind
of
a
hybrid
model
to
try
to
also
have
staff
there
and
to
have
this
online
service
now,
in
march
2020,
when
everybody
left
the
schools
and
started
going
to
the
remote
learning
environment,
the
number
of
students-
because
this
is
an
opt-in-
it
is
not
required.
B
So
this
is
we've
our
first
round
with
this
fender
was
a
pilot,
and
so
we
have.
We
found
success
with
that
pilot,
so
we've
expanded
it
to
additional
grade
levels
and
so
we're
watching
the
measures
of
success
to
make
sure
it's
making
the
impact
that
we
want,
and
we
will
certainly
look
at
renewing
if,
if
we
do
see
the
results,
but
we
are
taking,
you
know
a
measured
approach
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
making
the
that
these
dollars
are
making
the
impact
that
we
intend
renewing.
B
I
Possibly,
it
really
depends
what
the
measurements
of
success
show.
It
depends
what
is
needed
at
that
time,
because
the
landscape
of
education
keeps
changing.
We
did
not
want
to
presume
that
we
would
need
this
contract
in
a
year,
which
is
why
we
only
did
it
for
one
year
because
we
do
want
to
continually
reevaluate
these
services.
I
I
M
Well,
what
concerns
me
with
that
statement
that
we
know
this
vendor
we
work
with
them.
We
hear
that
from
a
lot
of
different
cabinets
and
it
gets
to
be
a
matter
of
convenience
rather
than
than
anything
else
and
that's
the
driving
point
and
I've
got
no
way
to
substantiate
that
132
000
is
a
reasonable
amount,
relatively
speaking,
it's
not
a
lot
of
money
with
what
we're
looking
at
today,
but
again
the
whole
process
kind
of
gets
compromised.
M
If
we
don't
take
it
seriously
and
it
just
concerns
me
anytime,
we
have
somebody
bringing
a
contract
that
says
that's
going
to
be
a
sole
source
because
on
all
those
other
sources-
and
you
know
how
can
you
give
us
justification-
that
these
dollars
are
truly
spent
the
way
they
should
be
and
we're
getting
return
on
our
investment?
You
know,
I
could
say
132
thousand
dollars,
maybe
if
we
bid
this,
we
could
have
got
it
for
a
hundred
thousand.
Well,
we
don't
know
we
don't
have
to
wait
justifying
that
and
that's
my
concern.
I
M
I
I
K
G
K
I
This
is
the
only
vendor
that
we
found
that
operates
within
the
gear
up
program
in
the
nation,
we're
a
little
bit
different
because
we
are
not
giving
them
100
of
our
services,
because
we
do
have
staff
in
the
schools
to
also
provide
some
of
these
services.
It
was
a
capacity
issue
for
us
and
so
being
able
to
compare
prices
with
those.
Other
states
was
not
realistic
for
us,
because
ours
would
come
in
so
much
lower.
K
K
I
mean
we
keep
hearing
all
these
things.
They
sound
like
they're,
all
the
same
stuff
I
mean
every
school
has
esther
funds.
We've
got
we're
getting
ready
to
do
more
contracts,
or
maybe
we've
already
voted
on
them,
for
you
know,
covery
of
learning,
loss
from
covid
and,
like
all
these
things-
and
I
know
gear
up-
existed
before
cove
but,
like
you
said
it's
kind
of
gotten
a
new
space
now
and
I'm
just
wondering,
are
we
overlapping
on
some
of
this?
Can
we
is
it
possible?
K
I
B
Sure
so,
in
terms
of
our
actual
federal
dollars
going
into
the
school
districts,
we
do
establish
annual
contracts
with
our
districts,
and
but
we
do
a
huge
most
of
the
majority
of
the
purchasing
of
goods
and
services
at
the
central
level
to
control
costs.
So
those
contracts
are
usually
less
than
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
we
are
paying
the
salary
of
our
staff
centrally
so,
and
we
also
make
you
know.
B
I
N
M
I'll
explain
my
vote.
Please
appreciate
your
explanation.
I
know
it's
a
kind
of
a
difficult
situation
for
you
folks,
but
I
hope
you
understand
my
concerns
and
if
we're
here
this
time
next
year,
then
I
think
we
need
to
see
something
a
little
bit
more
substantive
to
the
process.
With
that,
I
vote
eye.
E
My
wife's
a
teacher
she
deals
with
the
gear
up
program.
I
know
that
it
is
having
a
lot
of
success
right
now.
You
said
the
magic
words
that,
as
this
increases,
you
are
looking
to
do
run
the
rfp
process.
Therefore,
I
vote
aye.
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
morning.
Ocean
carries
moves
forward.
E
Okay,
next
item:
you
all
are
welcome
to
stay.
If
you
want
to
no,
nobody
ever
stays
next
item
on,
and
let
me
just
say
this
as
we
continue
for
the
members,
we
are
on
a
timeline
as
far
as
maintaining
our
quorum.
So
if
you
have
contracts
down
in
here
that
you
definitely
want
to
talk
about,
you
might
want
to
watch
the
time
as
we
move
on
this.
The.
E
E
All
right,
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
This
morning
I
started
off
on
number
five
1.2
billion
or
1.2
million
dollars
on
nursing
nursing
services
there
from
florida
company
just
trying
to
figure
out
everything.
I
just
need
an
explanation
on.
What's
going
on
with
that,
not
not
so
much
that
I
object.
I
just
needed
more
more
information.
O
Sure
that
that
contract
was
awarded
pursuant
to
an
rfp,
there
were
five,
I
believe,
bidders
for
that.
All
of
those
were
foreign
corporations.
The
decision
was
made
that
cell
staff,
the
company
that
was
awarded
the
contract,
had
the
highest
evaluated
score
using
the
best
interest
of
the
commonwealth
set
forth
in
the
evaluation
criteria,
and
I
did
review
the
evaluation
criteria
and
it
does
show
that
they
did
have
the
highest
score
based
on
technical
proposal,
expertise,
cost
for
registered
nurses,
as
well
as
costs
for
lpns.
E
M
In
yes,
sir,
moving
on
to
number
one
same
group
and
going
to
the
explanation,
is
this
separate
contract?
Because
it's
facility,
specific.
O
July
1st,
through
august
15.,
all.
M
Right
then,
the
other
issue
is
the
explanation.
Lack
of
administrative
staff
is
under
underlying
reason
for
the
delay
in
processing
this
contract.
That's
not
that's
not
a
reason.
That's
an
excuse.
I'm
sorry!
That's
just
not
acceptable.
M
E
C
M
Keeps
us
from
doing
our
job
and
I
don't
understand
why
this
isn't
a
priority,
and
it's
concerned
I've
had
since
I've
been
on
this
committee.
Is
we
used
to
have
just
multiple
requests
for
retroactive
approval
on
contracts
and
for
no
really
good
reasons,
and
I
reminded
people
that
I
think
this
should
be
one
of
the
first
considerations.
C
O
Issue-
and
I
did
want
to
update
the
committee
on
what
has
happened
since
that
time.
The
cabinet
has
instituted
a
telecommuting
policy
that
requires
three
days
in
the
office,
with
the
option
of
two
days
to
telecommute
upon
receiving
all
levels
of
approval.
One
of
the
days
each
agency
has
to
have
one
day
where
every
staff
member
is
in
the
office
together,
which
I
think
is
important,
as
was
discussed
last
month,
to
get
folks
together
in
the
same
area
and
to
work
through
problems.
O
The
division
of
fiscal
management's,
procurement
branch
has
been
in
the
office
since
august
15th
five
days
a
week
in
order
to
handle
these
issues,
then
work
through
the
backlog
and
to
try
and
get
this
process
moving
and
better.
We
listened
last
month
and
we
actively
are
working
to
to
address
these
situations
and.
M
O
F
M
Well,
you
know
we
had
debate
earlier
about
a
firm,
that's
supposed
to
develop
a
wage
and
compensation
package
for
us
as
competitive
you're,
saying
that
current
scale
doesn't
meet
the
needs
of
your
cabinet.
O
I'm
saying
I
think
that
in
state
government
it
is
difficult
to
compete
with
the
private
sector,
both
in
salary
and
now,
with
this
development
of
telecommuting
that
has
occurred
and
it
we
have
to
try
and
find
a
way
through
not
only
to
retain
our
current
talent,
but
also
to
recruit
new
talent
to
come,
and
I
think
that
that's
the
process
that
we're
going
through
right
now.
M
Well
again
not
specific
to
these
contracts,
but
just
an
editorial
comment
about
the
change
in
policy.
I
certainly
am
glad
to
see
it
for
your
division,
because
obviously
there
wasn't
accountability
there,
but
I
understand
now.
This
is
just
state
government-wide
that
folks
will
have
to
be
in
office
three
days
a
week
two
days
a
week
and
quite
truthfully
I
think,
that's
an
overreaction
to
this
situation
and
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
a
problem
with
the
retention
of
personnel
in
other
cabinets.
M
I've
heard
from
too
many
of
them
that
live
literally
miles
from
here
that
really
they
don't
have
a
job
that
warrants
being
in
an
office
three
days
a
week
and
gonna
cause
great
disruption
to
them
personally,
at
additional
expense
without
any
increase
in
productivity.
So
I
think
we're
a
little
misguided
in
the
application,
the
broad
application
of
this
change
in
policy,
but
that
is
what
it
is.
But
I
appreciate
you
listening
to
us
and
hearing
me
and
trying
to
resolve
these
problems,
but
thank.
M
G
O
I
I
do
not
honestly
know
the
policy
statewide
I
just
know
for
our
cabinet.
I
have
heard
that
other
cabinets
have
instituted
a
three-day
policy
as
well,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
if
it's,
if
it's
cabinet,
across
all
cabinets.
K
Okay,
so
then
the
other
question
I
had
was,
if
some
of
this
all
of
the
staff
that's
currently
going
to
be
in
the
office
all
on
the
same
day,
together
all
was
with
exception
of
some
of
these
open
positions
that
are
just
now
getting
filled.
They
were
all
on
the
clock
together
other
times
from
their
various
remote
locations.
O
No,
that
no
center,
that
that
wasn't
what
I
intended.
I
think
it's
the
the
idea
that
and
I've
been
teleworking
myself
since
the
pandemic
and
there's
just
something
about
people
being
in
the
office
together,
whether
it's
being
able
to
go
over
to
someone's
desk
and
and
just
ask
a
simple
question
that
would
otherwise
take
three
or
four
email
exchanges.
Things
like
that.
O
It's
those
little
things
I
think
that
are
that
are
helped
by
having
everyone
together
on
that
one
day
a
week
where
you
know
troubleshooting,
things
like
that,
I
think
are
just
easier
when
you
can
just
walk
over
to
someone
and
ask
them
as
opposed
to
scheduling
a
teams
meeting
or
things
like
that.
I
Also
add
that,
as
this
committee
is
probably
well
aware,
we
went
through.
B
A
significant
merger
of
two.
I
Cabinets-
and
that
did
you
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
of
growing
pains.
I'm
not
saying
that
that
is,
you
know
it's
just
an
explanation
of
a
little
bit.
What
contributed
also.
B
To
this
as
well,
you
know
bringing
those.
I
Two
cabinets
together
with
two
different
procurement
offices:
it
was
just
a
matter
of
getting
everybody
on
the
same
page,
a
little
bit
too,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
growing
pains,
but
we
really
do
feel
confident
that
we
have
worked
through
those
issues.
Now.
E
And
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
everything
you've
done
because
you
came
in
here
probably
identified.
Last
month
you
took
action,
it's
very
much
appreciated.
I'm
sure
you
all
will,
as
this
goes
forward,
make
the
adjustments
chairman
meredith,
you
know
brought
up
which
are
excellent
points.
I'm
sure
adjustments
be
made
in
that
looked
at,
but
you
came
in
here.
Problem
was
identified,
you
handled
it
and
for
that
I
very
much
appreciate
it
any
further
questions
on
77
and
80.
If
not
I'll,
accept
a
motion.
E
C
E
E
E
Thanks,
I
I
have
questions
on
these.
If
you're
listening
with
the
last
group
there,
I
had
a
similar
question.
If
you
could
just
explain
to
me,
we
have
eight
two
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
contracts,
not
that
I'm
opposed
to
them.
I
just
wanted
to
hear
an
explanation
on
what
was
going
on
with
them.
Please.
C
Yes,
sir,
we
had
one
agency
for
our
last
rfp
bid.
They
were
we
used
about
800
000
with
them
and
they
only
were
able
to
fill
about
50
percent
of
our
positions.
We
got
approval
to
use
two
different
companies
this
time.
Hopefully
that
will
improve
our
our
fill
rate,
so
that
was
the
idea
behind
it.
So
I'm
just
estimating
we
used
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
one
company.
C
Last
time
we
had
split
between
eight
hundred
thousand
between
the
two,
this
time
still
prioritizing
djj
nursing
staff
first,
and
then
we
use
the
agency
for
the
positions
that
we
can't
fill
with
state
workers.
E
E
Hi
motion
to
approve
without
objection
carries.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
your
time.
Next
item
on
the
pulled
list
is
with
eastern
kentucky
university.
It
is
number
22
on
the
routine
psc
green
list.
Please
come
forward,
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
make
sure
your
green
button
is
on
on
your
mic.
B
K
Thank
you,
I
feel
like
it
was
about
a
year
ago,
and
we
had
this
conversation
the
last
time
and
I
thought
then
you
guys
were
at
the
tail
end
of
all
the
kova
test
contracts
that
were
getting
ready
to
come
through
and
we
haven't
had
to
have
any
of
these
for
quite
a
while,
and
now
here
is
another
one,
but
you're
the
only
people
that
have
coveted
testing
that
I'm
aware
of
in
a
contract.
It's
been
quite
some
time,
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
going
on
in.
Are
we
really
still
doing
that.
H
Sparingly,
yes,
for
the
most
part
when
it
comes
to
sports
medicine
and
industry
standards
across
the
ncaa,
it
is
at
the
institutional
level
on
what
level
of
testing
is
required
when
it
comes
to
a
competitive
advantage,
typically
we're
using
antigen
tests
whenever
an
individual
has
any
types
of
signs
and
symptoms
of
coveted.
H
We
utilize
this
pcr
contract
with
lexar,
when
we
may
need
to
verify
two
negative
tests
to
a
positives
for
a
competitive
advantage
to
for
a
student
athlete
to
be
able
to
compete.
It
also
helps
us
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
having
an
outbreak
within
the
the
specific
roster
of
a
team
and
those
things
are
still
occurring,
and
so
this
contract
is
honestly
just
there.
If
we
need
it
quite
honestly,
right
now,
we've
we've
used
to
utilize
two
tests
on
this
contract
for
this
entire
year,
so
it's
100.
H
K
So
you
mentioned
ncaa,
so
is
this
all
relating
to
their
rules
on
healthy
athletes
and
when
somebody's
been
sick
and
they
can't
play
on
a
team
because
the
other
team,
all
that
kind
of
regulations,
because
you're
the
only
school
that's
got
this
contract
that
we've
seen.
So
that's
why
I'm
like?
How
are
you
the
only
people
and
everyone's
an
ncaa
member,
but.
H
Most
most
individuals
are
utilizing
antigen
tests
that
are
in
their
back
pocket.
Yes,
we
utilize
this
just
as
a
secondary
level.
In
case
we
have
need
to
utilize
a
pcr
test
for
a
competitive
advantage
purpose
when
it
comes
to
the
the
cdc
standards.
Yes,
if
an
individual
test
is
positive
for
covid,
we
do
still
have
those
isolation
protocols
that
are
in
effect
within
each
institutional
level,
and
that
is
the
industry
standard
across
sports
medicine
programs
across
the
country.
So
if
individuals,
individual
tests,
positive
they're
out
for
five
days,
might
be
out
two
games,
that's
that's.
H
This
could
be
a
significant
concern
when
it
comes
to
division.
One
athletic
competition.
K
H
Is
the
rationale
usually
oftentimes?
That
is
a
difficult
hurdle
to
to
get
over,
but
that
is
part
of
the
rationale.
It
also
helps
us
also
to
identify
yes,
that
antigen
test
was
positive,
and
so,
as
the
pcr
that
student
athlete
is
not
eligible
for
competition,
it's
also
good,
for
those
reasons
to
help
us
to
to
know
wholeheartedly
that
that
individual
needs
to
sit
out
for
at
least
five
days.
K
E
A
E
Okay,
next
item
on
the
polled
list,
with
kentucky
fish
and
wildlife
resources,
it's
number
35
on
the
routine
psc
green
list
and
number
six
on
the
10
000
under
goldenrod
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
they're
moving
forward.
Now
you
also
may
have
somebody
remote
as
well:
okay,
I'll!
Let
you
guys
introduce
yourself
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
remote.
E
E
All
right-
and
I
believe,
senator
meredith-
has
questions
we'll
start
with
number
35
on
the
green
list.
M
Thanks,
sir,
I
think
probably
six
will
fold
into
this.
I'm
suspect
it
may
they
be
related
if,
if
not,
then
we'll
move
on,
but
you
have
several
contracts
this
time
that
there's
a
notation
that
the
contract
replaces
another
contract
due
to
sb217,
designating
kentucky
fish
and
wildlife,
the
resources.
Commissioner,
as
a
chief
purchasing
officer,
I
think
there's
close
to
half
a
dozen
contracts
here.
What
does
that
mean?
What's?
Q
When
senate
bill
217
was
passed
at
a
transfer,
it
gave
fish
and
wildlife
the
procurement
authority,
which
basically
created
the
commissioner
as
the
equivalent
of
the
secretary
of
finance
cabinet
for
purchasing.
There
were
multiple
contracts
that
were
already
in
place
that
were
being
administered
by
the
finance
cabinet
and
deca,
and
we
were
advised
by
the
finance
cabinet
that,
because
of
senate
bill
217,
they
could
no
longer
implement
or
monitor
or
manage
the
contracts.
Q
So,
instead
of
the
contracts
being
terminated,
there
was
the
provision
in
the
contracts
which
allowed
them
to
be
assigned
to
the
department
to
pick
them
up
and
continue
the
projects
and
carry
the
ball
and
run
with
it.
So
to
speak,
provided
the
indiv
the
vendor
would
would
consent
to
the
assignment.
It
was
basically
just
an
administrative
delegation
changing
the
from
the
finance
cabinet
deca
to
the
department
of
fish
and
wildlife
as
the
manager
of
the
contract.
M
Q
Lisa's
stat,
we
not
nothing,
no
balls
that
were
being
juggled
have
dropped.
The
department
has
done
an
outstanding
stop
job
with
its
staff,
the
division
of
administrative
services,
the
engineers
at
filo.
It
was
unanticipated,
but
there
hasn't
been
a
hiccup
and
we
we
are
meeting
our
regulatory
obligations.
N
I
would
say
that
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
hiccup,
because
krs-45a
is
very
specific
for
the
architect
and
engineer
contracts
of
the
staff
that
has
to
pre-approve
those
agreements
and
master
agreements
are
have
a
dollar
limit
on
those
per
krs-45a
as
well,
and
we
have
not
crossed
that
bridge
yet
as
far
as
trying
to
get
a
new
architect
or
engineer
contract
in
place,
which
requires
not
only
finance
cabinet.
It
also
requires
more
engineers
than
we
have
on
staff.
M
Is
the
other
contract
I
request
to
be
pulled
from
caldwell
and
felton
or
law
offices?
Is
this
related
to
this
issue?
No.
Q
Sir,
that
is
the
result
of
a
lawsuit
that
was
filed,
resulting
from
a
an
alleged
by
alleged
false
arrest
in
a
violation
of
42
usc
in
1983..
They
sued
six
officers
involved.
In
addition
to
the
commissioner,
deputy
commissioner
and
chief
of
law
enforcement
officers,
it
was
filed
in
the
eastern
district
of
kentucky.
Q
The
myself
and
the
other
attorneys
on
staff
are
not
certified
in
the
eastern
district
because
of
the
lawsuit
that
was
filed,
we
that
that
requires
a
in
someone
who
is
certified
in
the
district.
The
other
thing,
the
other
complicating
factor
with
that
lawsuit
is
because
you
had
employees
and
administration
being
sued
the
internal
staff.
There
was
a
potential
conflict
of
interest
situation,
especially
if
somehow.
Q
Somehow
discipline
might
be
required
and
it
was
better
to
retain
outside
counsel
and
matt.
Feltner
is
has
done,
is
experienced
in
1983
lawsuits
with
the
state
police.
He
has
successfully
defended
state
police
officers
in
in
those
types
of
lawsuits,
and
it
was,
I
think,
a
good
choice
to
have
him
represent
the
officers.
M
M
N
Now
they
have-
and
I
say,
none.
I
think
there
might
be
a
couple
that
are
associated
with
the
co2
enterprise
agreements,
but
they
have
actively
taken
steps
to
not
only
prohibit
us
from
using
those
statewide
master
agreements
that
they
have
also
reached
out
to
vendors
and
said
that
we
should
not
be
utilizing
those
agreements.
N
I
think
that
they
were
aware
that
we
are
copying
those
agreements
and,
through
the
authority
of
the
commissioner,
has
said
that
if
it's
a
statewide
agreement
that
that
we
can
use
those
and
we
need,
we
can
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
in
the
system.
So
we're
copying
those
agreements
over
and
re-numbering
them
under
our
department
number
and.
M
Well,
I'd
agree
with
you
and
this
doesn't
really
follow
any
logic,
because
you're
still
a
state
agency
correct.
N
M
The
purpose
of
master
agreements
is
allow
any
governmental
entity
to
to
have
access
to
those
agreements,
but
I
guess
they're
upset
that
you
folks
are
willing
to
accept
responsibility
for
your
own
procurement,
which
I
think
is
reasonable,
given
that
your
revenue
stream
is
entirely
outside
the
general
funds,
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
quite
truthfully,
mystery,
I
think
it's
kind
of
spiteful
and
I
think
it's
going
to
create
some
inefficiencies,
certainly
for
you
folks,
it's
you
shouldn't
have
to
do,
but
we're
going
to
be
duplicating
efforts
to
to
procure
we're.
E
Q
E
Aye
motion
carries
we'll
now
move
on
and
we'll
accept
a
motion
on
number
six
from
the
10
000
and
under
goldenrod
list.
E
E
Just
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
the
way
you
all
are
handling
this
situation.
I
know
all
the
outdoor
men
and
women
out
there
that,
throughout
the
commonwealth,
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
so
just
enthusiastically
vote
aye
motion
carries.
Q
E
P
A
E
E
One
two:
three:
okay:
we
have
we're
back
and
after
several
accusations
from
the
committee,
it
was
my
break
so
needed
it.
Thanks
for
bearing
with
me
all
right
next
item
on
the
polled
list
is
with
kentucky
state
university.
It
is
number
43
on
the
routine
psc
green
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here,
please
come
forward
and
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
M
Well,
thank
you,
mr
thompson.
We
appreciate
you
preparing
for
our
committee.
All
our
committees
here
in
the
state
government
and
gotta
share
a
quick
go
work,
war
story
with
you.
I
was
a
ceo
of
a
small
rural
hospital
in
western
kentucky
and
we
were
gonna,
say
marginally
profitable,
but
one
day
my
only
orthopedic
surgeon
who
accounted
for
a
good
portion
of
our
revenue
in
my
office
that
I'm
leaving
and
leaving
it
immediately.
M
M
So
we
went
to
all
of
our
employees,
all
500
of
them.
Every
one
of
them
said:
here's
where
we
are
and
either
we
can
lay
off
100
people
or
everybody
can
sacrifice
and
try
to
get
through
this
thing
together.
You
know,
by
the
way
administration
of
our
administrative
team
had
already
taken
a
20
to
pay
cut
to
to
get
through
this
because
it
wouldn't
be
resolved
shortly,
and
we
asked
people
to
sacrifice
and
they
did
take
on
additional
responsibilities.
M
As
an
example,
a
lot
of
departments
were
small,
they
struggled
to
do
it
and
after
we
made
that
decision
and
we
allowed
employees
to
make
it,
they
said
no,
we
would
rather
cut
back
our
irs
or
our
salary
and
see
people
lose
their
job
and
I
promise
them.
This
was
a
long-term
situation
that
we
would
take
other
actions,
but
that's
what
we
did
as
a
as
a
team,
but
as
we
got
into
this,
we
realized
that
some
of
our
departments
are
very
small.
M
You
know
like
four
or
five
employees
and
they
came
to
me
and
said
you
know.
This
is
really
going
to
create
a
hardship
on
us,
not
in
terms
of
personal
we're
going
to
sacrifice,
but
we
don't
think
we
can
provide
the
services
that
we
need
for
a
hospital
if
we
have
to
make
this
kind
of
reduction
and
if
we
can
find
some
other
way
to
do
it
to
save
the
expenses.
Would
that
be
okay?
M
Most
certainly,
you
know
if
you
can
find
a
way
to
cut
20
of
your
expenses
department,
then
by
all
means
do
so,
and
some
of
them
were
very
innovative
in
the
way
they
did
it.
But
I
was
amazed
one
of
those
life
lessons
I
learned
was
things
that,
before
this
crisis
hit
us
departments
would
ask,
for
they
were
absolutely
imperative
that
they
have
in
order
to
function
in
their
departments.
M
Now
they
came
back
and
said:
well,
maybe
we
can
do
without
this,
but
it
did
require
a
shared
sacrifice.
From
everybody
I
mean
to
our
maintenance
department,
four
guys
and
during
a
winter
snow
storm.
We
had
a
problem
with
humidity
in
or
which
means
you
can't
do
surgery,
so
they
were
tied
up
with
that
somebody
had
to
shove
the
sidewalks,
and
that
was
myself,
our
cfo
and
our
chief
nursing
officer,
and
the
reason
I
share
that
with
you
is,
you
know.
I
know
you
know.
M
M
Now
it
goes
back
to
that
shared
sacrifice.
I
know
everybody's
busy.
I
know
everybody's
got
responsibilities
but
lobbying
our
legislator.
Following
these
committee
meetings
and
doing
what
else
needs
to
be
done?
Isn't
that
a
responsibility
that
could
be
shared
amongst
administrative
staff
at
kentucky
state
university
rather
than
the
share,
or
incur
this
kind
of
expense
which
at
this
point
in
time?
I
think
it's,
it's
not
a
necessity.
It's
a
little
bit
of
a
luxury.
D
Thank
you,
sir.
You,
you
kind
of
described
me
in
a
nutshell
and
all
those
roles
and
positions
that
you
talked
about
when
you
had
to
transition
your
company
during
tough
times
people.
If
you
noticed,
I
didn't
give
you
a
title
of
my
work
at
kentucky
state,
because
I
don't
have
a
title
in.
D
M
D
To
do
what
I
can
just
to
be
to
create
an
impact
somewhere
every
day
and
try
to
do
better
the
next
day
than
I
did
the
day
before
and
in
saying
that,
having
looking
at
the
landscape
for
the
past
nine
months
at
kentucky
state,
I
spent
about
50
of
the
60
days
down
here
with
you
all
during
the
legislative
session
and
the
days
that
I
did
miss
it
would
have
been
either
because
my
family
or
my
daughter,
required
my
attention
and
so
knowing
that
the
reason
I
was
able
to
get
here
was
through
understanding
the
rules
of
engagement
and
a
lot
of
that
came
through
professional
learning
and
professional
development
that
I
got
from
mccarthy.
D
But
when
you
look
at
the
return
on
the
investment
and
the
capacity
that
I
get
from
this
contract
is
not
just
lobbying.
It
is
professional
development
development,
it's
access
to
other
opportunities.
I
was
at
a
lunching
a
week
ago,
through
the
invitation
of
our
service
provider,
where
I
met
congressman
barr.
I
also
met
members
of
senator
mcconnell's
office
that
access
is
now
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
both
of
them
next
week
during
an
hbc.
D
U
week
in
dc,
so
it's
bigger
and
much
bigger
than
that,
and,
as
you
mentioned
about
capacity,
I'm
in
multiple
places.
The
past
several
months
months
and
weeks
we've
been
moving
students
into
the
university.
D
I
was
here
for
five
weekends
in
a
row,
helping
transition
our
students
from
financial
aid
to
housing,
to
helping
mitigate
some
of
our
residence
life
issues,
and
so
again
I'm
it's
hard
to
be
too
one
person
to
be
in
multiple
places
at
one
time
and
the
capacity
I
get
out
of
the
mccarthy
really
is
10
to
12
people
serving
and
supporting
our
university
when
we
can't
be
everywhere,
as
you
notice,
I
probably
was
the
only
person
you
saw
down
here
during
the
session
for
the
most
part,
because
we
are
thin
and
so
to
pull
other
people
from
their
roles
not
being
subject
matter
experts
in
this
area.
D
I've
learned
a
great
deal
from
just
being
around
you
but,
more
importantly,
having
the
opportunity
to
sit
and
talk
to
you
and
that
comes
through
our
relationship
with
mccarthy
as
well,
and
it's
not
just
again
lobbying.
It's
providing
us
the
the
rules
of
engagement,
the
analytics
all
the
background
that
comes
for
understanding
state
government,
and
so
it's
a
vital
part
of
how
we
do
business.
Now.
It
is
our
hopes
that
we
will
grow
as
a
new
administration
builds
a
new
organizational
health
and
structure
for
kentucky
state
going
forward.
D
We've
got
a
great
new
president,
who's
building
a
team
to
transition
and
transform
the
university
from
just
right
now
we're
in
the
stability
stage
trying
to
make
the
university
stable
and
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
not
looking
for
a
pass
that
we're
performing
and
then
getting
from
performance
to
sustainability,
so
that
we're
changing
the
trajectory
of
the
university
and
and
creating
a
revenue
base
where
we're
not
having
to
rely
on
government
subsidies.
D
So
I
think
it's
essential
that
we
continue
to
use
this
as
a
capacity
for
supporting
the
university,
particularly
during
these
next
two
two
to
three
years
across
this
management
improvement
plan.
M
Well,
in
our
situation,
one
of
the
rules
I
had
to
implement
was
we
would
not
spend
a
single
dollar
unless
it
was
direct
related
to
provision
of
patient
care.
You
know
been
no
travel,
we
curtailed
over
time.
We
froze
hiring
positions,
no
magazine
subscriptions,
I
mean
you
can
imagine
just
as
nothing,
but
we
had
to
because
there
was
no
one
who's
going
to
subsidize
us
like
that.
We
have
provided
to
k
state.
So
are
you
telling
me
that
this
is
absolutely
vital
to
the
future
success
of
kentucky
state
university.
M
Well,
I
wish
I
could
convince
you
otherwise,
because
one
thing
I
will
tell
you
is
that
you
have
great
credibility
amongst
this
group,
as
does
all
the
administrative
offices
current
administration's
offices
of
kentucky
state
university.
I
think
our
doors
are
always
open.
I
know,
as
you
described,
you've
got
responsibilities
beyond
the
walls
of
our
capital
and
this
annex,
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I'll
tell
you
this
contract
concerns
me
greatly,
but
I
respect
your
your
opinion
and
I'll
will
support
the
contract.
E
K
I'm
gonna
vote
I
and
shock
everybody
again.
I
had
a
conversation
with
mr
thompson
about
this
contract,
so
I
got
my
questions
kind
of
answered.
I
don't
know
a
week
or
two
ago
about
this,
but
I
think
the
last
time
it
came
around.
I
was
the
one
that
pulled
it
and
blew
a
gasket
about
our
lobbyists,
who
donate
to
our
campaigns
and
we're
paying
taxpayer
dollars
too
and
they're
really
getting
the
ksu
is
getting
a
good
deal
out
of
this
in
any
way.
K
I
think,
obviously
I
like
it
better
and
I
think
I've
made
it
clear-
lobbyists
aren't
nearly
as
effective
as
yourself
and
others,
but
we
understand.
Sometimes
you
do,
need
help
and
administrative
help
and
different
things
like
that,
so
we're
hanging
in
there
with
ksu
to
get
through
this,
but
as
soon
as
you
guys
get
a
halfway
on
your
feet,
just
be
here
yourselves
and
talk
to
us
we'll
help
you
through
the
process
and
get
rid
of
the
lobbyists.
Thank
you.
C
E
Very
much
senator
southworth
if
word
gets
out
we're
going
to
lock
the
doors
to
keep
more
contracts
from
rolling
in
okay.
We
have
to
go
a
little
bit
out
of
order
here
and
we'll
get
right
back
on
track,
but
we
have
time
conflict.
So
we're
going
to
go
with
on
the
polled
item
pulled
list
with
economic
development
office
of
the
secretary.
It
is
number
222
on
the
routine
moa
pink
list.
That's
222
on
the
pink
sheet
representatives
are
here.
They
are.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
E
K
You
so
I
want
to
get
a
good
handle
because
we're
talking
about
it,
says
46
million
dollars
to
support
site
infrastructure
improvements,
critical
to
water
and
sewer
requirements
for
economic
development.
So
the
contract
starts
september.
1St,
I'm
really
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
this.
Since
we
got
46
million
dollar,
I
mean
that's
a
pretty
significant
amount.
I
know
we
have
kia
right
now
is
working
on
immediate
earth
shattering
needs
on
water
infrastructure
all
over
the
state
for
people's
just
daily
sustenance.
K
We've
got
you
know
a
whole
large
swath
of
area
in
this
state.
That's
lost
their
water
access
entirely
and
now
we're
talking
about
a
46
million
dollar
contract
to
get
economic
development
going
in,
hopefully,
some
future
point
in
time.
I
just
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
this
money.
Can
this
money
be
used
for
other
things?
It
says
it's
general
funds,
so
I
mean
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
this
got
selected
and
I
just
feel
like
it's
a
bad
time,
but
if
you
can
try
to
justify
that,
I'm
willing
to
listen.
G
Well,
we
are,
this
is
one
of
seven
budget
line
items
that
were
included
in
house
bill,
one
for
us
to
fund
and
so
we're
following
house
bill,
one
the
budget
request
or
what
was
included
in
the
budget,
and
that
is
the
46
million
dollars
to
go
to
intermodal
transportation
authority
for
infrastructure,
critical
water
and
sewer
requirements.
So
we
are
truly
following
the
budget
and
that
was
authorized
to
our
cabinet
to
administer.
Like
I
said,
this
is
one
of
seven
budget
line
item
projects
that
we
are
administering.
K
And
I
understand
that
and
of
course
we
have
given
you
the
money,
so
you
can
spend
it,
but
at
the
same
time
is
this.
Money
is
specifically
only
for
new
development
that
has
no
chance
of
anything,
because
we
had
a
tornado
and
in
our
budget
and
our
team
noodle
funds,
we
were
going
to
use
economic
development
funds
to
help
rebuild.
So
are
any
of
these
funds
going
to
be
able
to
go
towards
site
rebuilds
in
areas
that
have
gotten
swept
out,
or
is
this
all
new
sites.
G
This
is
going
towards
expanding
the
water
access
included
in
that
area
around
the
intermodal
transportation
park
down
in
bowling
green
warren
county,
and
so
it
won't
just.
I
think
I
don't
think
it's
just
going
to
benefit
that
trans
park.
It's
also
going
to
benefit
that
region
and
the
different
housing
and
the
developments
that
are
around.
It
is
what
I'm
aware
of-
and
I
know
that
it
will
assist
with
attracting
economic
development
projects,
but
I
think
it
will
also
assist
with
attracting
other
homeowners
and
developments
there
in
the
area
to
help
grow.
That
area
right.
B
And
if
I
may
add,
I
mean
we
are
truly
implementing
this
budget
line
item,
which
was
approved
and
supported
by
leadership
in
in
both
chambers.
The
legislation
is
quite
specific
about
the
funds,
the
total
amount
of
funds
and
the
funds
going
through
this
entity,
intermodal
transportation
authority
for
this
very
specific
purpose.
B
K
G
G
E
A
E
E
L
I
mean
that's
a
fair
question
and,
as
you
said,
you
saw
this
contract
back
in
november
of
last
year.
It
was
for
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
This
committee
approved
it.
It
is
for
our
60th
anniversary
of
chandler.
We
were
supposed
to
have
had
this
event,
probably
in
april
of
this
year,
due
to
covet
and
some
other
situations,
it's
been
pushed
we're
doing
it
later.
This
fall,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
exact
thing
is,
barry
and-
and
we
really
gonna,
spend
a
little
bit
less
than
we
thought
we
were
a
year
ago.
L
But
to
the
point
of
your
question,
we
do
a
lot
of
events
management
in-house
without
question.
We
have
a
group
that
do
things.
This
is
going
to
be
a
large-scale
event.
We
do
not
believe
we
could
do
this
in-house.
It's
going
to
be
a
large
event.
I
believe
it's
out
at
the
horse
park
for
a
whole
lot
of
folks
and
and
around
that
event.
Hopefully
this
will
turn
into
a
philanthropic
event,
as
well
as
a
celebration
of
60
years
of
chandler,
and
we
just
believed
we
needed
outside
help.
L
J
We
did
an
rfp
in
2020,
sent
it
out
to
15
vendors
and
received
seven
and
awarded
seven
contracts,
seven
contracts
to
cover
a
variety
of
different
subject
matters.
You
know
with
different
expertise,
so
this
was
competitively
bid.
Local
supplier.
E
And
I
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
the
you
know:
that's
a
very
good
rfp
process
put
into
play
and
everything
and
it
just
we're,
sent
here
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
of
the
commonwealth's
money
and
I
feel
like
we
always
need
to
ask
the
question:
could
it
be
done
in-house
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
other
things
are
handled
yeah?
We
have.
L
A
large
we
have
a
large,
I
won't
say
large.
We
have
an
events,
management
staff
that
do
a
lot
of
events
on
campus,
the
smaller
type
events
they
even
put
on
graduation,
which
is
a
fairly
large
event,
but
but
this
one
we
just
did
not
believe
that
we
had
the
resources
to
dedicate
in
a
short
window
solely
to
this
event,
and
it's
not
one
singular
event.
I
will
add
by
the
way
it's
a
series
of
some
smaller
events
around
this
as
well.
L
C
C
E
B
K
We
are
all
online,
this
is
jennifer
smith,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
government
and
external.
B
Relations
for
wku,
I
have
several
people
on
the
call
with
me
today,
so
if
you
all
want
to
start
with
lunchbox,
I.
B
M
Mr
chair,
since
I
requested
a
contract
be
pulled,
I
think
I
can
abbreviate
this.
I
appreciate
those
folks
paying
attention,
but
you
know
my
objection
is
because
it's
a
california-based
company
we're
in
a
unique
situation.
Today,
we've
only
got
five
members
here,
which
means
we
need
five
members
for
a
contract
to
move
forward.
My
objection
is
solely
because
it's
california-based
and
I
would
hope
that
folks
would
take
my
concern
seriously,
but
I
see
no
reason
to
not
approve
that
contract
beyond
that
issue.
M
Just
to
note
thou
vote
I,
but
if
we
had
more
than
five
members
here
today,
I
would
be
a
no
chairman.
E
Cook
I
vote
I
as
well
just
trying
to
grasp,
what's
going
on
with
chairman
meredith
center
southwark
today
we're
on
a
roll,
okay,
59
and
60.
I'll
make
it
simple.
If
you
just
heard
my
discussion
with
the
university
of
kentucky
same
question,
I
didn't
I
wanted
to
spread
it
out
between
all
the
universities.
B
B
So
les
is
one
of
our
assistant.
K
Directors
of
athletics
and
he
can
answer
those
questions.
B
J
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
jennifer
to
jennifer's
point.
We
do
have
groups
that
can
do
some
some
design
on
campus.
These
are
for
hall
of
fame.
J
Excuse
me,
hall
of
fame
areas
in
our
athletic
department
and
also
some
show
pieces
so
accomplishments,
showing
that
our
teams
have
accomplished
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
these
are
not
just
the
graphic
design.
These
are
companies
also
that
will
do
the
design,
the
fabrication
and
the
install
which
a
lot
of
the
fabrication
and
the
install
is
beyond
what
we
can
do
in-house
in
athletics.
E
C
E
E
All
right
next
item
with
the
board
of
elections:
these
are
numbers
two
through
seven
on
the
routine
moa
pink
list
and
numbers
one
through
fourteen
on
the
moa,
fifty
thousand
and
under
grade
list,
two
through
seven
on
the
pink
list
and
one
through
fourteen
on
the
gray
list.
Representatives
are
here
becoming
good
friends
of
ours
they're
here
every
every
meeting
so
welcome.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
E
Welcome,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Senator
southworth
has
questions.
K
Thank
you.
I
see
we
have
a
lot
of
counties
here
and
last
month
we
talked
about
the
potential
for
counties
to
get
reimbursements
from
previously
purchased
equipment,
and
I
don't
know
where
we're
at
on
this.
Are
these
actually
all
counties
that
are
trying
to
add
a
few
pieces
of
add
a
few
machines
to
arsenal,
or
are
these
retroactive
reimbursement
or
does
it
a
mix.
A
K
Yet
no
ma'am,
okay!
Well,
that
explains
a
little
bit
because
I
was
taking
note
all
of
these
seem
to
be
all
of
new
systems
and
has
seemed
like
we're.
Just
are
you?
Is
it
because
people
are
wanting
to
add
a
couple
of
voting
locations,
and
so
they
want
a
machine
there
or
are
these?
Are
we
seeing
something
different,
because
what
I'm
looking
at
here
on
pink,
I
don't
want
to
go
through
every
detail
on
these.
K
Obviously
the
numbers
just
suggest
to
me
that
we're
adding
numbers
of
machines
in
some
of
these
larger
counties
with
smaller
costs.
They
can't
possibly
be
overhauling
their
entire
system,
so
they
must
be
just
adding
to
the
existing
system
or
something
like
that
is
that
would
that
be
a
fair
assessment.
A
They're
not
adding
to
their
existing
election
equipment
that
they
used
prior
to
obtaining
this
new
equipment.
Is
that
what
you're
asking
are
you
asking?
Are
they
meshing
equipment?
This
is
I'm.
K
Guess
I'm
suggesting
okay
bullitt
county,
for
example,
pink
number,
four,
a
hundred
seventeen
thousand
dollars
I
mean
we
all
know.
Bullitt
county
is
a
pretty
sizable
county
and
we
kind
of
know
how
much
these
verity
systems
cost.
You
know
I'm
just
going
to
round
it
off
to
5
000
a
pop
like
so
that
means
they
can
have
a
23
piece
outfit.
It's
23
pieces
actually
servicing
the
whole
of
bullitt
county.
A
Yes,
that's
24
pieces
that
they
purchased.
The
117
is
the
2500
per
precinct.
They
have
20
47
precincts,
but
their
total
spend
was
beyond
117
000..
Okay,.
K
Okay,
so
they've
yeah
they
so
they've
spent
a
whole
bunch
more
money
than
that,
and
we
don't
ever
see
those
numbers.
That's
what
I
usually
ask
for
we
got
three
million
counties
here,
so
I
will
just
I
mean
this
is
the
day
of
no
surprises
for
you
all.
I
still
don't
like
these,
these
new
machines
if
they
were
eastlakes,
let's
get
rid
of
the
e-slates,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
put
these
fuel
and
vine
just
want
to
make
it
clear.
K
K
E
E
K
I'm
gonna
vote.
No,
as
I
always
do
just
I.
I
really
think
we
need
to
really
take
a
look,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
other
states
that
if
you
have
a
small
county,
small
precinct,
what
not
we
don't
force
them
to
buy
these
machines.
When
you
open
up
these
machines
and
there's
like
you,
know,
40
ballots
and
we
spent
5
000
and
we've
got
more
machines
than
val.
I
mean
it.
K
We
seem
to
have
a
high
overhead
selection
system
here
and
I
don't
normally
just
sit
here
and
say
you
know
we
should
pass
my
bill,
but
one
of
the
things
my
bill
was
going
to
do
was
last
year
senate
bill
62
allow
those
small
areas
to
not
have
to
have
a
machine
for
one
vote,
that's
kind
of
stuff.
We
need
to
be
taking
a
look
at
because
this
would
create
a
lot
of
extra
cost
for
these
places,
they're
all
going
into
debt.
Probably
beyond
all
this
money,
we're
spending,
and
now
we've
allocated
more
money.
K
M
A
E
K
Mr
german,
I
kind
of
was
including
the
discussion
generally
as
a
whole
I'll
just
mention.
There
was
one
county,
jefferson
county
that
used
the
sns
machines.
They
have
all
the
new
system
if
you
want
to
call
it
new,
every
other
county
has
all
gotten
the
heart
verity
system.
So
it's
kind
of
all
the
same
topic
honestly,
the
heartbeardy
system.
They
got
pretty
flimsy
ballot
boxes
and
you
know
they're
all
the
same
size,
no
matter
whether
you
put
one
ballot
in
it
or
you
know
a
thousand,
but
these
precincts
that
don't
really
have
that
many
ballots.
K
E
K
C
E
N
C
E
All
right
welcome,
thanks
for
being
here
this
morning.
Senator
southworth
has
questions.
K
Thank
you,
so
I'm
looking
at
30
selections
of
households
that
are
going
to
get
I'm
supposing
some
kind
of
broadband
service
or
something
obviously,
we've
got
buku
dollars
flying
around
trying
to
get
broadband
off
the
ground
for
everybody.
So
I
have
two
questions
for
you.
One
is:
how
did
these
30
people
get
special
dispensation
to
get
a
head
start
on
this
and
then
two?
Are
we
looking
at
their
areas
with
the
regular
broadband
money
to
get
full
service
everywhere
or
how
are
they
going
to
get?
K
P
P
So
we
picked
a
population
65,
and
over
was
the
original
demographic
we
were
shooting
for
because
we
knew
that
was
our
most
vulnerable
population,
the
average
age
for
our
participants,
thus
far
for
the
pilot
prior
to
this
one,
because
this
contract
is
for
an
additional
county,
the
original
county
was
bell
county.
We
had
30
homes
selected
and
it
was
very
successful.
P
54
of
those
folks
were
connected
to
a
provider
either
directly
have
seen
one
over
that
past
year
or
intend
to
see
one
within
the
next
30
days,
so
we
felt
like
it
was
demonstrated
successfully
in
bell
county,
so
we
wanted
to
extend
it
to
martin
county
and
the
little
community
is
meathouse
creek,
which
has
no
internet
or
broadband
service
at
all.
So
we
thought
we
would
go
to
that
area
within
martin
county
and
provide
the
same
service.
P
K
K
N
So
the
this
is
unrelated
to
that,
but
we,
it
was
part
of
a
grant
that
we
received
to
provide
these
services.
However,
with
the
new
initiative
for
the
broadband
we,
we
will
not
be
expanding
to
any
additional
counties
until
we
see
how
the
broadband
rolls
out
and
then,
but
we
do
feel
like
we
have
some
data
that
may
be
helpful
to
provide
on
some
of
the
findings
that,
from
from
these
original
two
pilots.
F
I'll
just
make
a
quick
comment
being
from
bell
county.
F
I'm
familiar
with
this
pro
with
the
the
project
talked
to
colby
hall,
on
it
multiple
times,
and
a
lot
of
these
places
are
areas
that
there's
it's
very
expensive
delay
broadband
you
know
get
it
up
the
hauler
to
might
be
five
or
six
households
up
there
and
it's
just
super
expensive,
and
this
is
another
way
for
the
state
to
look
at
it
and
to
see
if
this
works
any
reports
back
on
the
speed
the
the
folks
had
as
far
as
internet,
their
internet
speed.
K
P
F
Well,
it's
it's
an
innovative
way
of
innovative
way
to
look
at
it.
Hopefully
you
know
instead
of
spending
four
million
dollars
to
to
do.
You
know
hard
fiber,
all
the
way
up.
You
know
every
hauler
in
eastern
kentucky
and
there's
a
lot
of
them.
You
know
this
might
be
another
way
to
tackle
it,
so
it's
worth
a
look
and
I'm
in
support
of
this
contract.
Thank
you.
E
E
K
So
if,
in
this
we've
put
a
bunch
of
money,
I
think
federal,
maybe
requirements
or
something
maybe
why
we're
sticking
with
broadband,
but
we
as
a
body
need
to
look
at
spending
our
money
on
these
satellite
things
if
we're
trying
to
get
fully
access
to
all
these
places-
and
I
hope
that
you
guys
can
maybe
communicate
this
program
to
those
offices
and
and
to
us
and
actually
report
back.
You
know
the
studies
and
materials
because
we
need
to
actually
be
looking
more
at
satellite
anyway.
A
K
F
E
K
All
right
here
we
are
in
our
code
testing
in
the
jails,
and
I
wanted
to
find
out
if
there
is
any
indication
or
reason
why
we're
keeping
up
a
boatload
of
cove
testing
in
the
jails.
I
mean
we're
increasing
it
by
ninety
thousand
dollars.
So
obviously,
we'll
keep
going
with
this
pretty
strongly.
C
So
as
the
previous
folks
who
have
spoken
about
covet,
testing,
we're
doing
targeted
testing
based
on
community
factors
and
facility
factors,
and
so
we're
doing
significantly
less
covet
testing
than
was
ever
done
before,
but
we
still
have
cdc
guidelines
that
require
us
to
maintain
facilities
based
upon
both
community
factors
and
facility
factors,
and,
as
you
know,
people
who
work
in
the
facilities
are
out
in
the
community,
so
we're
just
targeting
that
testing.
At
this
particular
point.
C
This
is
basically
a
90
000
addition
to
a
contract
that
is
already
in
place
based
upon
the
first
quarter,
burn
rate.
If
you
would
of
the
funds.
K
Expected
to
go
through
the
end
of
2024
correct,
so
assuming
we
don't
use
all
these
funds,
we
might
not
actually
use
this
much
money,
that's
correct!
So
if
we
quit
covered
testing
tomorrow,
we
wouldn't
even
need
the
90.
correct,
okay.
Well,
I
just
want
to
kind
of
somehow
figure
out.
I
know
we're
always
checking
boxes
for
all
of
the
purposes.
K
We
check
boxes
for
cdc
audits,
accreditation,
whatnot,
but
you
know
when
I'm
talking
to
the
inmates
and
they're
in
a
situation
they
need
to
get
out
of
the
dorm
that
they're
in
they
go
and
find
a
way
to
get
to
test
positive.
So
I
mean
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
where
I
feel
like
we're
spending
a
lot
of
taxpayer
dollars
on
mitigating
fights
and
dorms
through
cove
tests.
K
That's
I
mean
you
know
in
prisons,
you're
always
dealing
with
those
kind
of
things,
but
I
just
have
a
hard
time
with
taxpayers
being
on
the
line
for
people
using
these
type.
I
mean
you
know
if
it's
available
they're
going
to
use
it,
and
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that
when
we're
making
decisions
on
how
we're
testing
and
when
we're
testing
and
how
much
money
we're
spending
to
do
that.
So
just
want
to
register
my
concerns
there
and
you
know,
if
that's
not
solved,
then
the
9
000
will
get
spent.
K
I'm
concerned
about
that.
So
that's
the
reason
I
don't
particularly
like
approving
excess,
especially
since
this
is
through
2024
and
mr
chairman,
I
would
think
you
know
come
20
24
in
may,
if
they
needed
more
money,
why
you
know
we
could
do
that,
but
it
seems
like
a
little
early
for
a
for
an
amendment.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
not
really
a
fan
and
I
will
quit
talking,
but
I'm
not
going
to
move
to
do
anything
on
this.
If
anybody
wants
to
make
a
motion,
that's
fine!
E
J
M
I'm
not
sure
it's
a
question
just
as
much
as
a
comment
looking
at
the
explanation,
we're
given
for
this
retractor
approval.
Third
paragraph
says
the
renewal
was
neglected.
You
know,
that's
not
that's
not
a
reason.
That's
just
fact
that
it
didn't
happen
and
again
we're
not
giving
the
privilege
of
renewing
these
contracts
when
they
should
be
reviewed.
It
says
to
me
again
that
we
got
some
agencies
that
don't
feel
that
we're
an
important
part
of
this
process
and
they're
going
to
be
able
to
conduct
their
work
anyway.
M
So,
let's
just
move
on-
and
I
think
is
disrespectful
to
this
committee
ever
to
have
to
receive
a
retroactive
request
for
a
contract
and
again,
there's
no
real
explanation
in
this.
This
is
in
the
party's
efforts
to
develop
and
implement
this
brand
new
program.
The
prime
minister
renewal
was
neglected.
Well
again,
that's
not
a
reason.
That's
just
an
excuse.
So
that's
my
concern,
mr
chair.
J
Senator,
if
I
may,
I
I
offer
we
have
no
excuse
in
this
situation.
Hopefully
you
have
seen
that
we
have
implemented
processes
where
we
are
being
better
about
communicating
these
issues
when
they
arise
to
the
committee.
I
think
that's
reflected
in
that
we
have
had
two
or
three
contracts
in
the
last
year
that
have
been
retroactive
and
we've
provided
the
notification
and
the
explanation
for
that,
and
those
have
resulted
in
not
even
being
pulled
for
the
committee
hearing,
because
we
satisfied
the
committee,
I
believe,
with
our
process
and
our
notification
and
communication.
J
J
The
only
thing
I
can
say
is
you
know
my
faith
tells
me:
there's
only
been
one
perfect
human
who
walked
the
face
of
the
earth
and
he
was
also
fully
god.
So
you
know
we
we
make
mistakes
and
we
made
a
mistake
here
and
that
particular
agreement
didn't
get
caught
as
needing
to
be
renewed.
J
The
second
apology
I
owe
is
that
our
explanation
and
our
communication
to
committee
was
not
in
a
timely
manner,
and
that
is
again
a
an
error
on
our
part,
and
we
have
no
excuse
for
that
either,
and
all
I
can
do
is
apologize
for
that
and
again
offer
the
same
thing
that
we
are
imperfect
humans
who
make
mistakes.
J
That
is
all
I
can
offer
the
committee.
I
do
think
that
we
have
our
processes
in
place
to
make
to
at
least
minimize
this
occurring.
It's
not
appropriate.
I
fully
acknowledge
that,
and
the
committee
certainly
should
be
seeing
these
things
in
advance
rather
than
in
a
retroactive
manner.
I'm
not
a
fan
of
retroactive
contracts
myself
and
we
will.
I
can
only
promise
that
we
will
work
to
be
better
moving
forward.
E
C
E
Hi,
okay
motion:
it
motion
is
approved
that
objection.
We
will
now
go
to
the
final
item
on
the
polled
list,
with
apartment
for
commun
community
based
services.
It
is
number
on
the
moa
amendment
tan
list.
If
the
representatives
are
here.
Last
but
not
least,
thank
you
come
forward
to
the
table
and
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
C
This
is
implementation
of
the
executive
branch
budget
bill.
There
was
money
allocated
specifically
for
these
programs.
The,
since
2007
is
just
a
measure
of
what's
been
going
on
with
these
programs
across
the
state
over
the
past.
I
guess
that's
what.
C
Our
procurement
timelines-
we
have
to
have
there
to
ensure
that
a
contract
is
in
place.
On
july
1st
we
have
a
january
31st
deadline,
so
we
basically
kind
of
have
to
you
know,
base
it
off
last
year's
budget,
and
this
it
was
done
before
that.
So
whenever
we
get
new
money
added
in,
we
do
a
modification
in
july
start
a
modification
if
there's
any
new
money
added
in-
and
this
was
added
in
the
budget.
K
Thank
you
that
makes
way
more
sense
and
explains
what
I
was
wondering.
I
just
the
only
thing
I
was
going
to
register
and
I
mean
I
registered
it
on
the
floor
when
I
voted
on
this.
You
know
this
is
kind
of
similar
situation
when
the
lobbyists
are
getting
the
taxpayer
dollars
and
I
feel
like
it
gets
awkward
and
how
we
sort
out
this
money
and
everything,
but
hopefully
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can
assure
because
that
happens
all
the
time.
I
know,
and
everybody
says
it
happens
all
the
time.
E
K
Explain
my
vote,
mr
chairman.
Yes
ma'am,
I'm
I'm
really
stuck
on
this
because
I
think
the
child
advocacy
centers
could
do
some
amazing
work.
K
I'm
a
little
underwhelmed
by
some
of
the
reports
I
get
on
the
work
they
are
doing.
So
I
really
am
torn
on
the
support
for
this,
but
I
will
vote
for
it
right
now,
since
it's
in
the
budget-
and
we
just
all
need
to
keep
our
eyes
on
this
thing
in
the
future
by
odi.
E
Hi
motion
is
considered
review
without
objection.
Congratulations,
gold
star
for
the
people
who
stayed
in
the
room
through
the
last
contract,
even
though
they
didn't
need
to
so
and
before
adjournment
we
got
october.
22Nd
meeting
is
scheduled
for
tuesday
october
the
11th
9
00
a.m.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
second
aye
we're
adjourned?