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A
A
We'll
go
ahead
and
get
this
budget
review
of
General
government,
personal
and
public
retirement
underway
for
Wednesday,
July,
19th
and
I'd.
Ask
that
you
do
silence
your
cell
phones,
which
I
remind
myself
of
that
and
looks
like
we've
got
everybody
settled
in
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
Raw.
C
A
Thank
you
looks
like
we
don't
have
enough
members
yet
for
a
quorum.
So
we'll
wait
on
making
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
let
our
presenters
come
to
the
table
and
first
we'll
have
from
the
Kia
we've
got
the
deputy
executive
director,
milware
Deadman.
A
D
Do
you
all
have
the
slides
in
your
material?
Yes,
yes,.
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D
Because
of
these
grants,
29
projects
will
receive
funding
that
will
benefit
areas
of
the
state
that
have
never
had
clean
drinking
water.
Before
an
example
of
this
is
a
project
in
breathit
county
that
that
used
part
of
their
County
allocation
along
with
3.3
million
from
unserved
Grant
funds
and
were
able
to
complete
a
project
that
will
provide
clean
drinking
water
to
86
households.
For
the
first
time
ever,
breathit
officials
have
been
working
on
this
for
over
10
years
and
we're
never
able
to
accomplish
it,
but
now
they
are
able
to
deliver
for
their
citizens.
D
All
500
million
dollars
of
the
cwp
funds
have
been
committed,
except
for
the
supplemental,
except
for
the
supplement.
Supplemental
funds,
the
45
million
dollar
supplemental
pool
will
be
used
to
increase
project
Grant,
whose
project
cost
is
more
than
a
County's
allocation
amount
from
both
rounds.
One
and
two
a
project
can
get
as
much
as
10
percent
of
the
original
project.
Grant
award
as
I
stated
earlier.
Kia
is
administering
889
grants
in
round
one
we
had
406
grants.
D
We
have
entered
into
214
assistance
agreements,
there
have
been
107
projects
that
have
drawn
funds
amounting
to
18
million
475
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
29
projects
have
been
completed
in
their
38th
that
have
not
responded
this
meaning
that
KIA
sent
a
commitment
letter
and
has
received
no
response
from
the
grantee.
D
D
In
early
November
of
this
year,
Kia
will
begin
having
Zoom
meetings
with
the
non-responsive
grantees
to
assist
them
with
the
process
that
has
been
put
in
place
for
them
to
receive
their
funds.
If
we
still
get
no
response
by
the
end
of
December,
grants
may
be
reassigned
to
other
projects
within
the
county,
Again
by
local
consensus.
D
In
your
packet,
you
will
see
that
some
of
these
there's
a
list
of
the
acceptable
expenditures.
Some
of
these
being
include
repayment
of
existing
debt,
excessive
maintenance
costs
and
fees
and
penalties,
as
well
as
other
things
listed
there
on
that
page.
D
Today,
Kia
is
working
with
the
Kentucky
Rural
Water
Association,
to
establish
Equitable
criteria
to
award
funding.
Some
of
the
criteria
under
consideration
is
mhi
of
the
system
rates
as
a
percentage
of
mhi
water
loss,
the
ability
and
willingness
to
consider
Regional,
Solutions
and
environmental
sanctions.
D
We
are
currently
working
with
four
distressed
utilities
that
could
directly
benefit
from
funding
under
this
new
program.
Two
of
these
are
water
projects,
one
a
sewer
and
one
a
storm
water
project.
We
are
also
working
with
these
utilities
to
find
other
funding
sources
such
as
Arc
and
cdbg,
in
order
to
completely
fund
these
projects.
D
E
D
They're,
it's
it's
Martin.
D
E
I
appreciate
that
because
we're
Livingston,
Crittenden,
County
or
currently
Supply
Mary
and
what
they
can
but
they're
over
capacity
and
very
dated
in
age,
so
there's
some
concerns
there.
So
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
there
right.
Thank
you.
C
A
Okay,
one
question
I
had
was
on
the
the
grants.
I
saw,
there's
30
or
29
completed
and
still
several
jobs
that
are
still
to
be
done.
Is
there
any
concerns
on
the
timeline
it
has?
The
work
has
to
be
completed
by
2026.
That.
D
The
funds
have
to
be
complete
about
2026..
Not
at
this
point
you
know
our
our
biggest
concern
right
now
is:
are
the
the
non-responsive?
Are
the
non-reply?
You
know,
I
think
this
is
overwhelmed.
The
the
ad
districts
I
mean
most
most
of
them
have
one
or
two
people
that
work
in
in
this
area,
and
so
them
dealing
with.
You
know
889
grants
it
it's
hard
to
get
all
of,
and
this
is
a
federal
federal
money.
D
So
we
have
federal
guidelines
that
we
have
to
go
by
so
there's
certain
paperwork
and
documentation
that
we
have
to
get
in
before
we
can
enter
into
the
assistance
agreement
and
the
different
different
things
to
get
it
out.
So
that's
the
biggest
concern
right
now
is
is
getting
all
that
paperwork
in
so
that
we
can
get
the
money
out
the
door.
A
And
what
about
wastewater
treatment
facilities?
Are
they
covered
under
this
as
well.
D
D
A
F
Good
morning,
I'm
Karen
sellers
executive
director
of
the
State
Board
of
Elections
I,
do
want
to
also
mention
that
I
have
with
me
today
from
the
state
board.
Our
assistant
director,
Richard
house,
general
counsel,
Taylor
Brown,
and
our
Director
of
Finance
and
operations
is
Rachel,
Poyner
and
I'm
going
to
move
to
welcome
Tabitha
as
well
to
the
table.
Half
of
the
counties.
A
F
I
really
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
come
before
the
committee
when
I
received
the
invitation
about
it
being
you
know,
related
to
the
costs
of
the
state
and
to
the
counties
on
elections.
It's
very
important
that
everyone
understand
as
Tabitha
and
I
talked
earlier,
elections
go
on
regardless
of
cost,
so
it
is.
F
It
is
something
that
we
are
pleased
to
have
here
and
be
able
to.
Let
you
hear
something
about
it.
So
there
are
four
divisions
of
election
Administration
in
Kentucky
you
have
the
State
Board
of
Elections,
which
is
an
independent
agency
that
administers
federal
and
state
election
laws
and
disperses
pass-through
finances
to
the
county,
clerks
and
fiscal
Courts
for
their
administration
of
Elections.
F
We
have
the
county
clerks
and
the
County
Board
of
Elections.
These
are
the
boots
on
the
ground.
They
conduct
the
over
the
local
election
oversight,
an
inspection
of
the
voting
machines,
training
of
their
local
election
officers.
They
do
public,
Outreach
and
direct
interaction
with
the
voters.
The
Secretary
of
State,
of
course,
is
our
chief
election
official.
He
is
also
chair
of
the
State
Board
of
Elections.
Then
you
have
the
Kentucky
registry
of
election
finance.
That
is
also
an
independent
agency
and
they
administer
campaign
Finance
laws.
F
So
some
of
the
in-house
Electronic
Services
that
we
use
to
assist
the
county
clerks.
Our
voter
registration
system,
which
we
refer
to
as
vrs,
is
provided
it's
more
or
less
an
election
management
system
that
we
support
and
maintain
and
provide
to
120
counties
to
manage
their
voter
population.
F
We
have
the
online
voter
registration.
Where
is
a
portal
for
all
citizens
of
Kentucky
to
register
to
vote?
We
also
have
the
online
portal
for
military
and
overseas
to
request
and
receive
their
absentee
ballots.
We
have
a
website
where
voters
can
check
their
registration
and
their
ballot
status
in
real
time
if
they
have
requested
an
absentee
ballot.
We
have
election
night
reporting,
which
many
of
you
may
have
seen
are
upgrade
that
we
did
in
the
last
election.
F
We've
been
working
on
that
as
well
and
I
believe
that
the
last
reiteration
of
that
in
November
was
well
received
by
voters
and
as
well
the
media.
We
also
have
our
absentee
ballot
request
portal,
where
it's
a
secure
website
for
voters
to
submit
their
mail-in
ballot.
This
information
goes
directly
to
the
county
clerk,
who
will
process
and
get
that
absentee
ballot
out
in
the
mail.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
mention
in
terms
of
this
is
our
voter
registration
system.
F
We
maintain
millions
of
election
documents
and
images
that
are
backed
up
in
this
system.
Elections
are
a
critical
infrastructure
and
we
partner
with
cyber
security
with
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
We
also
have
multiple
security
layers
associated
with
this
and
feel
very
confident
in
the
information's
protection
in
this
system.
F
All
of
this
again,
here's
some
of
our
other
sites
that
many
of
you
may
have
even
seen
that
I
had
previously
mentioned,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
all
of
these
are
domestic.
They
are
in-house
with
SBE,
nothing
is
of
any
foreign
nature,
so
we
do
do
all
of
that
on
our
on
our
end
and
our
agency,
and
all
of
this
is
accessible
to
the
county
clerks
and
provided
to
them.
F
Now
this
is
a
little
bit
of
sbe's
costs
associated
with
elections
and
I'll.
Just
mention
we'll
talk
about
FY
23,
but
I
will
also
mention.
If
you
looked
at
the
numbers
in
advance,
you
saw
that
you
know
20
21
22,
we
had
you
know
an
influx
of
cares
dollars
from
the
coveted
pandemic.
F
So
you'll
see
you
know,
there's
a
pretty
significant
reduction,
because
those
dollars,
of
course,
are
no
longer
coming
into
the
agency,
but
the
general
and
administration
and
support
allotment
is
for
our
personnel
and
our
general
operations
of
at
SBE
I
will
skip
down
to
federal
funding.
That
is,
funds
that
we
use
to
maintain
our
systems
and
at
some
and
some
some
instances
were
able
to
distribute
some
of
that
funding
down
to
the
county
level
as
well,
the
general
funding
for
statutory
requirements.
F
There
are
three
KRS
that
we
are
allotted
money
that
we
provide
directly
to
the
counties.
I'm
Gonna
Let
You
skip
over
to
that.
If
go
to
the
next
one-
and
thank
you
know
the
next
one
after
that
I
was
just
gonna.
I
should
have
had
these
in
better
order,
so
KRS
117.345
that
is
pass
through
money
to
the
counties.
It's
255
dollars
per
precinct
for
the
cost
of
any
election.
F
They
get
this
twice
a
year,
so
in
FY
23
SBE
was
allotted
1.883
million
to
distribute
to
the
counties
all
120
counties
in
this
last
biennial
budget.
Then
there's
a
second
KRS
that
we
are
allotted
funds
117.343,
that
is,
we
50
cents
per
registered
voter
in
the
county.
This
is
a
per
year
cost
of
employing
office,
Personnel
necessary
to
conduct
elections,
and
this
includes
the
work
that
their
personnel
may
do
toward
registration,
pergation
of
Voters
and
anything
related
to
voter
registration
in
the
county.
This
is
done
once
a
year.
F
We
do
it
in
May,
I!
Think
it's
in.
May
we
look
at
what
the
voter
registration
is
as
that
time
and
that's
how
we
calculate
the
50
cents
per
registered
voter
new
voter
I'm.
Sorry
116.145
is
also
allocated
to
state
board
that
we
distribute
to
all
the
counties
once
a
year,
and
this
is
for
each
person
registered
in
the
county
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
wasn't
clear,
50
cents
per
registered
voter
is
new
voters
and
I'll.
Let
you
get
back
to
the
so.
F
When
we
got
this
request
and
speaking
with
some
of
the
county
clerks,
we
thought
maybe
the
best
way
to
try
to
get
the
costs
for
the
counties
in
their
election
was
to
do
more
or
less
a
survey
we
sent
out
a
spreadsheet
and,
as
of
the
the
time
that
we
were
able
to
that,
we
provided
this
a
week
ago
to
the
committee.
We
had
70
counties
participating
in
it
over
about
a
week
of
of
getting
this.
So
we
looked
at
the
last
two
elections.
F
F
The
state
reimbursement
based
on
the
KRS
that
I
had
previously
mentioned
is
255
dollars
that
we
reimburse
per
Precinct
right
now
under
statute,
so
the
average
cost
per
Precinct
to
the
counties
where
they
go
to
their
Fiscal.
Court
is
2730.77.
Now
again,
you
have
to
remember
this.
You
know
we're
not
using
exact
numbers,
but
we
feel
they're
pretty
pretty
accurate.
F
So
that
means
the
overall
State
reimbursement.
Percentage
back
to
the
counties
is
eight
point:
five,
four
percent
in
the
23
primary,
the
average
cost
per
Precinct,
was
2954.59
again.
F
255
dollars
is
provided
and
or
allocated
through
the
statute
and
again
the
average
percentage
paid
by
the
counties
was
91.37
percent
and
part
of
the
takeaway
of
this.
That
is
interesting,
is
in
the
general
2022.
The
turnout
was
41.9
percent
in
the
primary.
The
turnout
was
14.5
and,
as
you
can
see
from
these
numbers
that
we've
put
together
on
the
survey,
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
the
turnout
is.
The
cost
of
the
counties
conducting
the
election
is
exactly
the
same,
so
I'm
going
to
move
to.
G
Counties
so
good
morning
again,
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
tell
you
some
of
the
obvious
things
that
you
have
interactions
with
us,
not
only
as
legislators,
but
just
as
a
voter
in
our
community
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
not
obvious
things
that
people
don't
realize
that
the
County
Board
of
Elections
and
the
county
clerks
do
to
ensure
that
our
elections
are
successful.
So
one
we
follow
federal
and
state
laws
to
ensure
our
elections
are
safe,
accessible
for
all
voters
and
secure.
G
We
maintain
the
voter
registration
list
in
our
individual
counties,
and
that
also
includes
coding
our
voters
to
make
sure
that
they
get
the
correct
ballot
phase.
So
if
you
live
in
the
city
limits,
you
get
a
City
ballot.
If
you
live
in
an
independent
school
district,
you
get
the
school
district
ballot
for
your
Independent
School
versus
your
County
district
schools,
so
and
for
all
of
our
legislators
and
congressional
districts
as
well
to
make
sure
that
our
voters
are
getting
the
ballot
face.
That
is
rightfully
theirs.
G
Selecting
our
voting
location
that
meet
all
of
the
requirements
of
of
being
a
voting
location,
creating
and
the
approval
of
our
election
plans
each
year
that
we
now
submit
to
the
State
Board
of
Elections,
creating
and
or
Staffing
each
election
office.
In
my
case,
the
election
office
is
me
in
in
the
case
of
like
a
Jefferson
County.
They
have
multiple
employees
who
help
oversee
their
elections,
providing
voting
locations
with
sufficient
voting
equipment.
G
This
is
really
difficult
when
we
don't
know
turnout,
you
know
you
don't
know
exactly
how
many
people
you're
going
to
have
so
ensuring
you
have
enough
ballots
with
the
correct
ballot
faces
and
then
ensuring
that
you
have
enough
machines
there
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
voters
are
being
able
to
vote
in
a
timely
manner,
local
candidate
filings.
So
if
you've
ever
filed
for
a
local
office,
you
do
that
with
the
county
clerk
you
all
in
in
your
capacities
are
following
with
the
secretary
of
state
submission
of
our
unofficial
election
Night
results.
G
We
know
that
all
of
you,
as
well
as
Citizens
in
our
communities,
are
depending
on
those
results,
whether
that's
that
they're
coming
to
our
offices
to
get
them
or
they're,
seeing
them
on
the
bottom
ticker
of
their
TV
or
they're.
Checking
the
state
board's
website
that
we
have
those
those
readily
available
they're,
never
as
fast
as
we
want
them
to
be.
G
The
availability
and
accountability
to
the
voters
of
our
counties
I
think
that
this
has
grown,
probably
more
so
than
than
anything
else
is
that
our
voters
are
expecting
us
to
be
accountable
to
them,
which
is
important.
We've
always
been
that,
but
I
think
the
demand
upon
our
offices
for
for
more
information
has
grown
since
the
2020
election,
organizing
and
ordering
supplies
to
ensure
accurate
inventory
for
our
elections.
There
are
some
supplies
that
you
can't
just
run
out
to
our
local
stores
that
we
have
in
some
of
our
counties
and
pick
up.
G
Some
of
our
supplies
have
to
be
accounted
for,
such
as
our
seals.
Our
seals
have
to
be
accounted
for
correctly.
If
they're,
not,
then,
then
we
are
in
violation.
So
these
are
not
supplies
that
we
can
just
run
and
pick
up
off
of
a
store
shelf
or
order
on
Amazon
right.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
them
from
our
certified
vendors.
So
it's
an
important
important
task
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
and
then,
of
course,
the
delivery
of
all
of
our
election
equipment.
G
Many
of
us
are
very
fortunate
that
we
can
use
other
agencies
in
the
county
to
help,
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
That's
not
included
in
the
cost
analysis
is
that
we
we
didn't.
The
spreadsheet,
probably
didn't,
allow
us
to
take
into
account
the
cost
for,
for
my
County,
it's
our
road
department
for
other
counties.
G
It
might
be
their
parks
department
or
in
some
cases
it's
just
other
County
officials
who
will
lend
the
county
clerk
a
helping
hand
on
that
day,
I'm
very
fortunate
I've
been
blessed
ever
since
I've
been
in
office
that
our
County
Road
Department
look
forward
to
me
buying
them
lunch.
That's
the
only
reason
they
come
and
help
me
that
day
is
I,
buy
them
lunch
out
of
my
own
pocket.
I
take
them
to
used
to
I,
take
them
to
this
little
grocery
store
that
we
had
in
town
and
they've
since
closed.
G
So
now
we
hit
a
pizza
place,
that's
local,
but
they
look
forward
to
that.
But
there's
there's
all
sorts
of
costs
there
that
are
not
associated.
For
example,
the
County's
gas
that's
been
putting
put
in
the
trucks
to
travel
to
each
of
our
locations.
We
were
fortunate.
We
had
a
a
forfeiture
on
a
enclosed
trailer
that
was
a
stolen
trailer
that
was
never
claimed
by
our
Sheriff,
so
we're
using
that
other
counties
are
buying
that
equipment
to
haul
or
renting
equipment
to
haul
their
elections
equipment.
G
So
let's
go
to
some
of
the
not
so
obvious
things
that
fall.
That
are
on
our
plates
working
with
our
County
Fiscal
courts
to
ensure
adequate
funding.
As
you
can
see,
the
counties
are
responsible
for
over
90
percent
of
the
funding
of
each
of
these
elections.
So
having
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
Fiscal
Court
is
important.
It
is
solely
the
fiscal
Court's
responsibility
to
pay
for
the
administration
of
the
election.
It's
not
in
the
county
clerk's
budget.
G
That's
that's!
Probably
one
of
the
the
toughest
things
we've
had
some
training
in
our
association
about
line
management,
how
to
manage
lines,
how
to
plan
and
lay
out
your
location
so
that
you
don't
experience
lines.
You
know
you
don't
think
about
those
things
when
you
go
to
places
like
Kings,
Island
or
Disney
World.
All
of
that
is
thought
out.
We
do
the
same
thing
complying
with
the
Department
of
Justice
for
the
requirements
for
Ada
and
accessible
voting
locations.
This
has
become
even
more
of
a
requirement
for
us
to
ensure
that
we
are.
G
We
are
supplying
all
of
the
accessible
needs
of
our
voters,
so
that's
an
important
one.
Our
workflow
and
election
Security
Management.
We
are
constantly
invited
to
calls
and
trainings
with
cyber
Security
Homeland
Security
FBI
has
been
at
numerous
of
our
trainings,
because
there
has
been
death
threats
on
local
officials
who
are
in
elections
so
where
we
manage
those
by
by
being
trained
on
how
to
handle
them
and
who
to
contact
if
we
have
those
responding
to
open
records.
Requests.
G
Continuous
training
I've
already
mentioned
this
a
little
bit
on
Election
laws,
changes,
updates
and
security,
the
publication
of
notices
in
our
newspapers.
This
is
a
costly
expense
for
counties.
As
we
see
less
and
less
going
into
local
newspapers,
we
see
the
price
of
our
advertising
going
up.
It
was
several
thousand
dollars
for
us
to
put
the
ballot
and
our
locations
one
week
in
my
local
newspaper,
so
that's
a
cost
that
continues
to
go
up.
G
We
have
to
have
adequate
signage
to
appoint
voters
in
the
in
the
correct
direction
of
where
they
need
to
enter
the
building,
as
well
as
when
elections
are
being
conducted
since
we've
expanded
the
in-person
absentee
voting
to
three
days
prior
to
the
election,
we're
trying
to
still
educate
voters
on
that,
it's
not
something
that
they
fully
grasp
yet
so
we're
still
continuing
to
educate
voters
and
that's
included
in
that
printing
of
of
signage.
My
friend
in
Anderson,
County,
Jason,
Denney,
he's
always
inventive.
G
My
judge
executive
calls
him
the
gold
standard
about
advertising
to
his
voters,
he's
building
trailers
right
now
that
he
can
move
around
his
County
to
advertise
the
election.
He
has
some
of
the
highest
turnout
numbers
in
the
state
as
well
the
opening
and
closing
of
all
polling
locations
each
day
of
in-person
voting.
We
have
to
be
there
for
that.
We
have
to
ensure
that
it's
done
correctly,
including
reading
out
loud.
The
numbers
that
are
shown
on
the
machine
is
how
many
people
have
scanned
ballots.
That
day
are
seal
numbers.
G
Those
must
be
read
out
loud,
so
we
have
to
ensure
that
that's
done
correctly
daily
documentation
of
our
election
equipment
during
voting
hours
securing
our
voting
materials.
This
is
something
that
that
I
take
very
seriously.
We
have,
we
all
do,
but
we
have
we
even
invested
in
the
last
few
years
in
election
carts
with
locks
on
them,
so
that
when
our
election
officers
are
showing
up
on
Election
morning
to
unload
there,
it's
not
just
in
a
locked
bag
with
a
little
lock
on
it.
G
These
are
nice
big
Master
locks
in
cages,
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
that
material
is
staying,
secure,
ongoing
communication
with
our
election
vendors
regarding
our
ballots,
our
election
equipment,
the
testing
of
our
equipment
and
then
our
annual
report
to
receive
state
funding.
That's
something
that
we
have
to
do
every
year
in
order
to
receive
the
255
dollars
per
Precinct,
that
Karen
mentioned.
We
have
to
fill
out
a
complete
report
for
that
that
lists
each
of
our
deputies.
G
If
they
had
election
duties,
what
election
duties
they
were
doing,
how
many
hours
did
they
do
this?
So
when
you're
in
an
office
that
oversees
so
many
facets
of
what
we
do,
motor
vehicle
transactions
land
records,
our
tax
roll,
then
elections,
then
you
have
to
sit
and
think
through
how
many
hours
did
she
spend
on
voter
registration
in
the
last
year?
G
We
not
only
do
we
have
these
machines
in
a
position
where
we're
they're,
locked
they're
under
lock
and
key.
We
secure
them
on
Election,
Day,
they're,
also
secured
throughout
the
entire
year.
We
have
cameras
that
are
watching
over
that
equipment.
We
also
have
all
of
the
testing
that
we
do
prior
to
the
election,
to
ensure
not
just
that
the
batteries
are
working
but
that
the
machine's
working
correctly
we
actually
take
ballots
mark
them.
G
Scan
them
check
them
to
make
sure
that
they're
adequately
working
and
supplying
the
tape
at
the
end
to
ensure
that
the
votes
that
are
on
the
ballot
are
on
the
tape
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
inspect
all
of
the
equipment
once
it's
set
for
the
election.
Zero
tapes
are
not
only
printed
on
Election
morning,
but
they're
printed
for
our
inspection
to
ensure
that
there's
nothing
on
those
machines
and
then
we're
ensuring
the
security
of
them
while
they're
in
our
buildings
and
when
they're
out
in
other
facilities
waiting
for
you
to
come
vote.
B
F
Wanted
Tabitha
to
be
with
us
today
because
it's
very
clear
that
the
county
clerks
are
the
front
line
of
Elections
state
board.
Does
you
know
what
we
can
to
support
them
in
terms
of
all
the
the
programs
programming,
the
voter
registration
system,
the
other
pieces
that
are
important
to
maintain
a
safe
and
secure
election
and
support
the
county?
Clerks
I?
Think
it's!
F
A
C
Reimbursement
rate
triggeration
with
frost,
front
Todd
work
with
the
clerks
Association
and
former
Secretary
of
State.
Those
were
the
numbers
that
were
in
statute
when
I
was
in
office.
However,
they
I
do
remember
a
couple
times
they
were.
C
The
255
was
suspended
in
the
budget
to
go
lower
when
we
were
having
some
Financial
challenges
in
the
late
2000s,
but
no
there's
not
been
an
adjustment
to
the
statutory
number
since
then,
as
far
as
other
states,
I
really
don't
know
that
the
answer
to
that
question,
that's
something
we
could
look
at
to
see
about
the
about
the
split.
A
A
Doing
a
great
job
and
is
stresses
a
lot
on
Election
time,
but
but
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
responsibilities
that
people
don't
notice
and
one
of
the
things
as
far
as
poll
workers
I
know
that
it
seems,
like
you,
have
great
people
working
there,
but
it's
always
the
same
people
year
in
year
out
and
you're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
new
people
coming
into
doing
this.
Is
there
any
concerns,
I
mean?
Is
it?
Is
it
a
monetary
thing,
a
time
thing?
What
so.
G
I
think
that
I
think
that
it's
multifaceted,
I
think
one
people
live
such
busy
lives
that
they
don't
take
the
time
to
do
this.
You
said
you
see
the
same
people
when
I
first
started
voting
the
way
that
I
knew
my
precinct
was.
If
I
saw
a
lady
who
lived
on
my
road
who
I
was
very
familiar
with
if
she
was
sitting
at
that
table,
that's
how
I
knew
that
that
was
my
table
and
when
she
stopped
serving
I
didn't
know
where
to
go
vote.
I
mean
I
had
to
I
had
to
go.
G
Ask
somebody
what
table
am
I
supposed
to
go
to
so
I
think
that
I
think
that
that's
true
I
think
people
serve
and
and
then
the
process
that
we
had
before,
where
the
four
people,
if
you
have
Precinct
voting,
you
have
the
four
people,
a
clerk,
two
judges
and
a
sheriff.
Well
they
technically.
What
the
law
intends
is
that
those
people
would
be
from
that
Precinct.
G
Equally,
with
vote,
centers
I
used
to
have
a
county
of
25
000
in
population
I
had
22
precincts
back
when
we
were
doing
Precinct
voting
I've
since
reduced
that.
But
then
we
had
to
come
up
with
125
election
officers
for
any
given
election,
whether
it
was
a
40
turnout
or
a
14
turnout,
which
you
know
we
can
tell
primaries.
We
always
have
less
people.
We
probably
don't
need
to
have
as
many
people
serving
in
a
primary,
but
we
had
to
because
that's
what
the
law
said
now.
G
I
can
conduct
a
primary
election
like
the
one
we
just
had
with
about
50
people,
which
is
a
huge
cost
savings
to
my
County.
We
pay
election
officers
165
dollars
in
Grant
County,
it's
140
for
the
day
and
25
for
training.
So
it
was
a
it's.
It's
a
huge
savings
for
our
our
County
to
be
able
to
have
vote
centers,
but
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I
have
went
and
spoke
with
seniors
in
high
school
college
classes.
G
Is
we
have
an
NKU
campus
in
Grant,
County
and
begged
for
people
to
come
and
serve
to
make
some
money
that
day
and
when
they
look
at
the
length
of
the
day?
It's
not
just
the
12
hours
that
we're
open.
They
have
to
be
there
by
5
a.m
and
they
stay
until
7
then
bring
the
equipment
back
to
the
county
clerk's
office.
In
some
counties.
G
A
Do
any
other
members
have
questions?
We
had
a
couple
we'll
represent.
H
G
Each
County,
by
by
the
vote
of
the
Fiscal
Court,
set
the
pay
for
the
election
officers.
So
there
is
a
there
is
a
cap.
I
believe
the
Cap's,
two
200
or
300
is
the
cap
of
what
they
can
pay
per
day.
But
there
is
a
cap
that
they
can't
pay
any
more
than
that
amount,
but
it
is
set
by
each
County.
G
H
G
Not
necessarily
each
County's
plan
is
a
little
different,
so
it
depends
on
on
what
that
County.
What
that
County
does,
for
example,
there's
some
counties
really
small
counties
that
only
had
one
location
to
begin
with,
so
they've
maintained
that,
with
their
individual
precincts
there
and
my
County,
we
have
four
vote.
Centers
voters
can
show
up
at
whichever
one
works
out
best
for
them,
so
I-75
runs
the
entire
length
of
my
County.
G
So
if,
if
they
live
in
the
south,
but
they
travel
North
to
Cincinnati
for
work
and
they
want
to
vote
at
the
most
northern
Precinct
that
I
have
because
it
gets
them
to
the
bridge
quicker
in
the
morning.
They
can
stop
and
do
that
and
that's
been
very
convenient
for
the
voters
of
my
County
to
be
able
to
select
the
vote.
Center
that
works
best
for
them.
I.
H
Think
that's
been
a
good
just
a
comment.
I
I
think
that's
really
been
good
because
it
it
gives
people
options,
I,
think
it
gives
them
a
lot
of
options.
I
know,
I
mean
I,
represent
two
small
counties
and
then
one
pretty
large
County,
but
that
gives
them
a
lot
of
different
options
of
voting.
Like
you
say,
if
they
work
in
a
certain
area,
coming
back,
I
think
that's
really
been
implemented
well,
and
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do.
You
do
a
great
job.
Thank.
H
My
my
clerk
I
have
three
clerks,
but
they
all
do
they
all
do
a
great
job.
It's
work,
they
work
hard
and
and
I
and
I
know
I'm,
like
the
chairman,
I
see
them
stressed
on
Election
Day,
especially
if
somebody
calls
a
machines,
not
working
or
something's
happened,
but
thank
you
all
for
everything,
and
that
was
a
really
good
presentation.
Thank
you.
H
I
In
my
opinion,
the
two
greatest
priorities
that
we
have
here
in
America
are
one
to
make
sure
we
maintain
a
strong
natural
defense
to
protect
our
democracy
and
two
to
ensure
voting
integrity
and
participation
in
this
country
with
without
those
two
things
we
don't
have
a
democracy
in
this
country.
Obviously,
I
want
to
focus
today
on
on
the
the
election
piece
and
and
ask
you
this
yeah
I've
I've
been
a
strong
advocate
of
early
voting
I'm
glad
we
started
to
take
that
step
during
the
covert
years.
I
I
think
we
need
to
enhance
that
if
we
were
able
to
do
that
and
I'll
start
with
you,
first
Miss
Sellers
and
then
you
miss
miss
Clemens.
If
we
were
able
to
enhance
that,
would
that
increase
your
cost?
You
went
from
like
three
days
to
12
days
or
early
voting.
Would
that
enhance
your
costs
and
if
so,
could
you
give
me
a
ballpark
figure?
What
that
would
be?
That's
my
question
to
you.
I'll
start
with
you
miss
Sellers
and.
F
I'll,
let
Tabitha
weigh
in
if
she
believes
that
I'm
correct
if
and
I
agree
early
voting
is
wonderful
and
I.
Think
you
know
the
more
we
we
work
to
Market
and
have
people
understand
the
days
of
early
voting.
I.
Think
it's
it's!
You
know.
We've
just
had
the
three
elections
with
early
voting
other
than
covid
that
are
done
now
by
law.
There
would
be
quite
a
bit
of
costs
associated
with
that,
because
many
of
the
clerk
offices
conduct
early
voting
in
their
office
in
their
building.
F
Now
the
larger
counties,
of
course
expand
and
have
places
outside
of
well
Fayette
County
foreign.
I
F
Use
it
in
their
clerk
office
if
they
had
to
try
to
find
you
know,
say
10
more
days
of
early
voting,
they
may
need
more
poll
workers
because
they
would
not
be
able
to
use
their
staff
as
election
officers
in
their
offices
as
they
as
many
of
the
rural
counties.
Do
now
I
see
that
I
don't
know
that
it
couldn't
increase
costs
it.
It
would
surprise
me
if
it
didn't
increase
costs.
Some
and
I
can
let
Tabitha
speak.
She.
G
So
for
many
of
our
counties
we
are,
we
have
our
election
officers
who
are
contracted
with
us.
You
know
our
volunteers
is
what
a
lot
of
counties
call
them
even
they're,
getting
a
small
stipend,
but
we
would
have
to
pay
them.
So
even
in
my
County,
even
though
I'm
small,
we
set
up
at
our
public
library
in
a
large
community
room
there,
and
we
have
a
about
12
to
14
people,
even
in
a
like
in
the
past
election
that
we
just
had
ramping
up
for
the
presidential
next
year.
G
We'll
have
two
locations
that
we'll
have
on
those
three
days
of
early
voting,
have
20
to
25
people
ready
to
ready
to
see
voters
those
three
days
of
early
voting
and
we're
a
small
County,
so
that
cost
a
loan
every
day
that
you
you
add
to
it,
there's
going
to
be
more
cost
and.
G
G
That
yeah
and
that
cost
is
going
to
primarily
fall
on
the
county,
as
you
saw
in
the
in
the
presentation.
90
of
the
election
costs
do
so
that's
going
to
be
a
county
cost
that
you
know
a
lot
of
counties
at
this
point
are
struggling
to
maintain
their
election
costs,
we're
very
fortunate
with
with
some
funding
the
last
biennium
to
purchase
equipment.
Now
it's
the
maintenance
of
that
equipment
and
moving
forward.
G
If
we
need
to
expand
equipment,
maybe
they
didn't
get
to
order
all
that
they
needed
and
we
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
me.
That's
me
right
now,
I
need
more
print-on-demand
printers.
My
judge
is
already
entire
tired
of
hearing
from
me
because
I'm
I'm
knocking
on
a
store
about
every
day,
because
my
vendor's
telling
me
if
I
don't
order
extremely
soon,
they
won't
be
here
for
2024.
So.
F
If
it's
appropriate
and
marketing
now
falls
on
the
counties,
because
state
boards
funding
to
help
them
with
marketing
costs
are
now
bore
by
the
fiscal
courts
and
and
just
voter
education
is
another
piece
that
that,
like
you
said,
it's
very
important,
that
our
voters
understand
where
they
can
go
and
education
related
how
to
register
to
vote,
how
to
check
your
status.
How.
G
To
I'll
add
to
Karen's
comment
about
the
dollars
that
were
available
in
2020
for
marketing.
There
was
also
grant
funding
that
was
available
through
a
Civic
engagement
organization
that
we
were
able
to
secure,
grant
funding
in
multiple
counties.
My
County
received
it
for
marketing.
Some
counties
received
it
for
some
equipment,
but
those
those
grants
are
no
longer
eligible
for
us
one.
The
grant
dollars
are
not
there.
However,
there
was
a
law
passed
last
session
that
would
prevent
us
from
applying
for
those
funds
because
of
outside
agencies
having
influences
on
elections.
G
So
so
those
dollars
are
not
there.
So
it
does.
It's
Pro.
It's
100
on
the
counties
to
be
able
to
Market
the
election
to
our
constituents
and,
at
this
point,
I
think
that
there's
there
needs
to
be
a
time
where
we
just
maintain
what
we
have
until
we
can
look
at
it
again
in
a
few
years
and
then
maybe
ramp
up
making
a
lot
of
changes.
Just
confuses
voters.
G
A
G
So
there's
there's
multiple.
You
know
signage
for
one,
it's
it's
thousands
of
dollars
to
to
organize
and
to
have
signs
produced
for
each
election
because
they're
date
sensitive.
So
so
it's
something
you
have
to
change
every
time
now
some
of
us
have
become
inventive
and
we
found
ways
to
just
change
dates
on
signs.
G
But
you
know
there
is
a
cost
still
to
that,
then
there's
advertising
and
media,
so
whether
you're
doing
that
in
print
media
social
media,
if
you're
getting
a
consistent
and
clear
message
out,
you're
you're
having
to
pay
for
that,
it's
not
just
one
post
that
you're
posting
on
your
on
your
Facebook
or
Twitter
you're,
paying
for
some
advertising
dollars
to
do
that.
G
Some
counties
have
local
access
channels
that
they're
using
that
they're
paying
for
things
to
be
on
their
cable
channels
and
that
sort
of
thing
as
well,
but
the
mandated
cost
there
is
the
Publications
in
the
newspaper.
So
so
those
costs
are
mandated.
We
have
to
produce
that
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
that
change,
but
I'm,
just
saying
that
it
is
a
mandated
cost
that
we
have
to
have
that
in
the
newspaper.
So
you
know
our
websites
are
such
a
resource
people
log
on
our
websites
constantly
to
renew
their
tags.
G
F
One
thing
I
might
add
about
marketing
and
advertising
that
the
counties
have
some
responsibility
about,
and
many
counties
do
that
when
they
change
a
precinct
location,
they
have
to
send
a
postcard
to
all
those
voters
and
let
them
know
that
their
Precinct
has
changed
or
many
counties
just
want
to
send
a
postcard
and
let
people
know
where
to
vote.
You
know
where
to
vote
on
Election
Day,
so
some
of
the
costs
some
of
the
counties
that
reported
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
asked
for
in
the
survey.
F
You
would
be
shocked
at
the
postage
costs
to
send
these
postcards
and
I
might
add
that
reapportionment
is
now
going
on
so
that
when
Precinct
changes
are
made
when
reapportionment
is
completed,
we're
going
well,
not
us
we'd
like
to
help
the
counties,
but
the
counties
and
their
courts
are
going
to
be
bearing
the
cost
of
those
postcards
going
out
to.
Let
voters
know
that
their
Precinct
has
now
changed
due
to
reapportionment
and
I.
F
Believe
postage
has
gone
up
again,
maybe
66
cents
now
I,
think
or
soon,
but
the
not
just
the
advertising
and
and
doing
that.
We're
talking
about
the
postcards
that
go
out
and
many
counties
do
them,
and
some
are
some
is
done
by
Statute
required.
So
all.
H
You
I
was
I,
was
just
sitting
here
thinking
and
listening
to
y'all
about
voter
registration.
H
What
is
being
done
or
is
there
anything
been
done
to
try
to
increase
or
going
into
our
high
schools
with
our
seniors,
especially
that's
turning
voting
age
is.
Is
that
permitted,
or
is
that
done
or
is
that
through
you
guys
or
is
that
Secretary
of
State
stuff
or
who?
What
is
that
allowed
to
be
done?
It's.
F
F
G
So
so
years
ago,
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
how
many
years
they
all
run
together
after
you've
been
in
office
for
a
while,
but
years
ago,
I
would
walk
into
our
high
school
front
office,
and
there
would
be
this
stack
of
voter
registration
cards
blank
ones
that
the
state
board
was
mandated
to
mail
out
to
all
of
these
high
schools
in
Kentucky,
and
they
would
just
sit
there.
Nobody
do
anything,
they
had
no
idea
why
they
came.
G
You
know
a
letter
probably
came
with
them,
but
somebody
opened
them
and
they
would
just
sit
there,
and
so,
as
I
I've
worked
previously
in
County
government
and
would
go
into
the
high
schools
and
do
different
programs
before
I
ran
for
office
and
I
asked
one
day.
Why
do
you
have
all
these
cards
they've
been
there
for
like
three
months
and
nobody's
done
anything
with
them
what's
going
on,
and
they
said,
oh,
the
the
state
sends
them
to
us.
We're
I,
guess
we're
supposed
to
give
them
to
the
kids.
Well,
that
wasn't
very
good.
G
Well,
then
I
decided
that
as
I
got
into
office
and
became
a
county
clerk,
I
realized
that
a
lot
of
folks
had
no
idea
what
kind
of
taxes
they
were
paying
and
didn't
understand
the
association
with
voting
and
taxes.
So
we
now
have
a
program
in
Grant
County
where
we
meet
with
our
seniors
every
year
they
have
a
career
fair
day.
We
go
in,
we
meet
with
our
senior
class
and
we
talk
about
I
have
an
entire
presentation
about.
G
We
don't
pass
out
paper
cards
in
that
presentation.
We
put
a
QR
code
on
the
screen,
the
cell
phones
all
come
out,
they
scan
them
and
they
register
to
vote
while
they're
sitting
there
I
have
my
chief
Deputy
handles
all
of
our
voter
registration
every
time
she
sees
that
date
on
on
our
calendar.
She
knows
that
she's
working
late
for
a
few
days
because
we're
going
to
have
an
influx
of
people
registering
to
vote.
G
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
do
we're
also
mandated
the
county
clerks
are
mandated
to
put
informations
in
in
the
school
now
so
we
created
the
association.
I
worked
on
a
poster
that
has
a
QR
code,
so
that
should
be
in
our
high
schools.
Where
voter,
where
students
are
seeing
that
poster
on
the
wall
in
their
high
school,
they
can
scan
the
QR
code
there
or
go
to
the
website
and
they
can
register
from
their
phone.
G
So
that's
a
really
great
piece
of
of
teamwork
between
the
state
and
the
counties
is
to
be
able
to
offer
the
website
to
register,
to
vote,
to
check
your
registration
to
update
your
address
online
and
it
saves
people
from
having
to
come
all
the
way
to
the
county
clerk's
office.
To
do
that,
especially
now
with
the
regionalization
of
driver's
license.
G
People
are
not
updating
their
information
as
often
so
when
we
get
to
a
general
election
they're
finding
themselves
in
a
position
where
they
have
moved
and
it
could
ultimately
have
a
bearing
on
whether
they
get
to
vote
that
day
or
not,
but
because
of
the
online
registration.
They
can
update
their
address
there,
and
that
makes
that
a
lot
more
seamless
to
ensure
that
they're
able
to
vote
on
Election,
Day,
so
I
hope
that
answered
your
question.
You're
welcome
and.
F
I
think
that
people
find
it
more
secure,
because
if
you
go
and
and
parents
may
say
well,
you
know
a
high
school
student
may
not
know
their
social
security
number,
but
the
parents
don't
always
always
want
them
to
write
it
down
anyway.
So
I
think
the
secure
website
has
made
a
big
difference
in
voter
registration,
that
people
can
access
and
feel
secure
about,
putting
in
their
driver's
license
number
their
social
security
number
and
don't
have
to
worry
about
it,
maybe
passing
through
two
or
three
hands
before
it's
delivered
to
the
county
clerk's
office.
A
A
You
and
again
our
next
meeting
will
be
on
August.
The
2nd
and
that'll
be
at
9
00
a.m
in
the
same
room.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
we'll
adjourn
the
meeting.