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A
C
B
A
With
a
quorum
this
afternoon
being
present,
the
subcommittee
is
duly
constituted
to
do
business.
The
first
matter
of
business
in
our
meeting
today
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
our
last
monthly
meeting.
You
are
Corrections.
If,
if
there
is
a
motion,
is
there
a
second?
Second,
there
is
a
motion
in
second
without
objection,
it
is
sorted
so
at
this
time
we
will
begin
today's
meeting.
Please
call
the
first
regulation
at
this
time.
D
This
regulation
establishes
the
parameters
for
the
option:
nine
expedited
route
to
teacher
certification,
a
staff
suggested
amendment
was
approved
at
the
October
meeting.
There
is
an
agency
Amendment
today
that
amends
Section
3
to
require
engagement
with
multiple
student
populations,
including
all
of
the
listed
populations
that
are
represented
in
the
student
enrollment
for
the
district,
where
the
candidate
is
completing
the
residency
and
to
allow
engagement
opportunities
to
be
offered
outside
of
the
district,
where
the
candidate
is
completing
the
residency.
A
There
is
an
agency
Amendment
on
this
regulation.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agency
Amendment?
If
not,
is
there
a
motion
for
approval
motion?
There
is
a
motion.
Is
there
a
sec?
There
is
a
motion
in
the
second.
Without
objection
it
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
on
the
regulation
from
any
of
the
members.
A
B
D
These
regulations
establish
reimbursement
procedures,
medical
insurance,
premiums
for
Medicare
eligible
retired
members
re-employed
with
a
participating
employer.
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
for
the
ordinary
regulation
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
Drafting
and
formatting
requirements
of
KRS
chapter
13A
and
revises
the
required
form
to
clarify
who
qualifies
as
a
dependent
child.
The
agency
Amendment
for
both
regulations
amends
the
definition
of
mem
to
more
accurate,
accurately
reflect
which
individuals
fall
under
the
regulation.
F
A
Okay,
you
might
do
that
one
more
time,
I,
don't
think
we
could
hear
you
very
well.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
There
is
a
staff
amendment.
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
approval?
There
is
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
to
disordered,
and
there
are
also
agency
amendments.
Are
there
any
discussion
on
the
agency
amendments
there
appearing
to
be
none?
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
approval?
A
G
H
A
A
I
B
A
A
B
A
L
A
A
We
are
flying
today.
Yeah,
oh
I,
am
sorry
representative,
Frazier,
Gordon
I
apologize
go
right
ahead.
Please
thank.
M
For
being
here
today
and
I
just
have
a
question,
since
this
is
a
it's
located
in
my
district
in
Madison,
County
and
so
I'm
very
proud
of
of
the
center
and
I
was
just
wondering.
If
you
have
an
estimation
of
how
many
people
you
expect
to
take
part
in
the
online
training
in
lieu
of
coming
for.
L
A
J
600-4010
is
being
amended
to
change
source
of
membership
of
certification
committee
members
and
update
the
agency
Amendment,
corrects
a
citation
and
makes
grammatical
changes.
603-5350
establishes
the
criteria
for
OHV
ordinances,
petitions
and
the
rescinding
thereof.
Ohv
enforcement
and
safety
plan
requirements
and
OHV
safety
equipment
requirements
and
safety
equipment,
verification
processes.
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
amends
Section
1
to
comply
with
the
drafting
requirements
of
KRS
chapter
13A.
A
Good
afternoon,
gentlemen,
would
you
please
each
one
of
you
identify
yourself
for
the
record
at
this
time?
Go.
P
A
You,
sir,
we
just
need
to
pick
all
that
up
on
the
audio,
so
we
have
everything
on
the
record.
There
is
a
staff
amendment.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
staff?
Amendment
motion?
There
is
emotion.
Is
there
a
second
place?
Motion
in
second
has
been
made
without
objection,
it
is
so
ordered
there
are.
There
is
also
an
agency
amendment.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agency
Amendment?
A
I
You
Mr
chairman
in
years
past
this
probably
would
not
even
rise
to
the
occasion
of
of
being
on
anybody's
radar,
but
these
off-highway
vehicles,
Adventure
tourism,
is
a
big
deal
in
Kentucky,
and
so
could
you
speak
to
that
particular
reg?
What
what
we're
actually
doing
here
too,
to
put.
N
Regulations
in
place,
yes,
chairman
the
regulation,
essentially,
as
you
know,
2021,
we
were
a
little
late
getting
this
rig
finished,
but
it
came
through
the
regular
session.
N
I
A
Any
other
questions,
thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
being
with
us
this
afternoon.
Please
call
the
next
regulation
at
this
time.
J
702-7125
is
being
amended
to
authorized
districts
to
take
student
attendance
and
thereby
receive
funding
for
students
enrolled
in
a
full-time
virtual
online
program
operated
pursuant
to
the
proposed
new
administrative
regulations.
704
kr3
535
remove
Provisions
related
to
the
resolution
process
for
district
disputes
related
to
non-resident
students
and
clarify
enrollment
and
withdrawal
codes
related
to
non-resident
students
and
charter
school
students.
J
704-3535
establishes
definitions
for
the
regulation
and
the
minimum
requirements
for
the
operation
of
online
virtual
and
remote
learning
programs
in
school
districts
for
grades
K-12
705
4041
is
being
amended
to
update
statutory
citations,
provide
greater
flexibility
in
which
staff
can
assume
the
role
of
work
site
supervisor
and
make
necessary
updates
to
the
Kentucky
work
based
learning
manual.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
to
these
regulations
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
the
Drafting
and
formatting
requirements
of
KRS
chapter
13A
and
make
technical
changes.
A
Thank
you
all
today
for
being
with
us
there,
our
staff
amendments
is
there
a
motion
for
approval.
There
is
a
motion
in
a
second.
Without
objection,
it
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions?
I
I
just
have
one
quickly
and
then
I
think
Senator
West
may
have
a
question.
Could
you
just
quickly,
or
maybe
just
briefly
on
the
007
125
concerning
the
people?
Attendance
aired
as
I
was,
as
I
was
following,
as
as
that
was
being
read,
what
is
the
process
where
it?
A
H
So
we're
amending
the
regulation
to
strike
what
we'll
call
the
old
process
previously
school
districts
in
order
for
non-resident
pupils
to
enroll
and
to
be
counted
for
the
purposes
of
claiming
Sikh
funds.
There
had
to
be
an
agreement
between
the
two
School
Districts
The
District
of
residents
and
the
District
of
attendance.
The
general
assembly
made
some
changes
to
that
in
2020.
A
F
A
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
chairman,
had
a
question
on
two
number.
Two
well
I,
don't
even
know
do
you
all
get
summaries
the
same
summary
they
don't
get
that
soon.
Okay,
never.
A
I
So
my
questions
are
pertaining
to
the
virtual
classroom.
Explain
that
a
little
bit
give
us
some
information
on
that
then.
The
second
question
will
be
the
same
thing
on
the
enrollment
and
withdrawal
codes
relating
to
non-resident
and
charter
school
students
I'm.
Assuming
that
the
answer
to
that
question
will
be
the
same
as
this
one:
it's
probably
to
carry
out
563,
I'm,
assuming
and
but
if
you
could
go
into
you
can
skip
that.
One
then,
and
just
talk
about
virtual.
What
are
we
doing
with
the
virtual.
H
Sure
so
I'll
give
a
high
level
overview
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Dr
Park.
Of
course,
during
the
pandemic
there
was
a
lot
of
learning
virtually
online
I
think
most
folks
are
including
us
at
the
department
are
happy
to
be
back
to
in-person
learning.
However,
we
did
learn
that
for
a
minority
of
the
population
we
found
districts
told
us,
and
it
is
in
fact
the
case
that
students
really
did
thrive
in
that
environment
and
districts
wanted
the
option
to
continue
offering
that
opportunity
to
students
within
their
school
district.
H
So
we
did
some
piloting
on
that
and
then
ultimately
came
up
with
this
regulation
to
provide
them
the
flexibility
to
operate
those
programs.
You
will
notice
that
it's
completely
voluntary,
so
no
student
can
be
forced
into
the
program.
It
has
to
be
at
the
request
of
a
parent
that
they
want
to
attend.
One
of
these
virtual
programs,
I'll,
let
Dr
Park,
explain
it
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
Thank.
Q
You
so
the
primary
purpose
of
the
regulatory
language
for
us
is
to
wrap
assurances
and
measures
of
high
quality
around
this
kind
of
programming,
as
our
districts
have
requested
to
continue
the
continuation
of
this
work
number
two.
It
applies
a
consistent
and
standard
funding
mechanism
to
enrollment
in
these
programs
and
then
number
three.
It
states
the
the
grade,
bands
by
which
these
programs
are
available,
K-12.
I
This
is
going
to
be
an
old
school
term,
so
what
they
used
to
I,
don't
know
if
they
still
call
it
this
or
not,
but
homebound
students
like
students
who
have
medical
conditions
or
whatever
and
students
with
special
needs.
Do
you
think
these?
Are
these
programs
going
to
be
focused
in
that
area
or
does
it
go?
Does
it
go
further
than.
Q
That
and
I
appreciate
your
question.
These
are
questions
that
we're
working
alongside
with
our
school
districts
in
there's
a
myriad
of
reasons
why
a
family
would
would
choose
an
experience
like
this,
and
we
know
that
those
are
some
also
social,
emotional,
mental
health
reasons.
We
know
there's
an
academic.
The
academic
work
that
we
do
is
extremely
important,
but
also
all
of
the
work
with
the
whole
child
is
extremely
important
as
well.
So.
Q
Parent
request,
provided
that
District
structures
a
program
of
the
sort
we
we
know
right
now
that
it's
it's
a
very
small
percentage
of
students
that
are
requesting
this
we
know,
99
of
or
so
of
our
of
our
families
over
you
know
want
in-person
learning
which,
as
Todd
said,
we
we
do
as
well.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Any
other
comments
or
questions
and
and
just
to
follow
up.
Just
briefly
on
what
Senator
West
said,
my
question
was
actually
going
to
be
and
I've
spoken
to
the
districts
in
my
area
and
it's
it's
very
small
amount
of
of
students.
It's
so
is
that
is
the
figure
you
gave
us.
I
mean
it's,
it's
prob,
probably
around
99,
there's
only
maybe
one
percent,
or
is
that
or
is
that
a
figure
that.
Q
A
Now,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
anything
else.
Yes,
representative
Bridges
go
right
ahead.
Please
thank.
R
You
Mr
chairman
I,
just
got
one
quick
question
and
it's
just
out
of
my
ignorance,
it
it
says
it
shall
not
be
classified
as
an
alternative
education
program.
What
what?
What's
the
difference?.
Q
So
alternative
education
programs
are,
by
definition,
have
requirements
and,
and
language
wrapped
around
those.
These
programs
have
the
high
quality
measures
that
we've
put
into
this
specific
regulatory
language
speak
for
themselves,
which
is
what
we're
excited
about,
oh
and
in
terms
of
this
specific
regulation.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
T
A
Welcome
to
our
meeting
today
there
is
a
staff
amendment.
Is
there
a
motion
there?
There
is
a
motion
and
there
has
been
a
second
without
objection.
It
is
so
ordered.
Are
there
any
questions
from
any
of
the
members
today
appearing
to
be
no
questions?
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
today.
Please
call
the
next
regulation.
Thank.
T
B
B
A
G
900
KR
10
120
amends
to
include
special
enrollment
options
and
update
material
Incorporated
by
reference.
The
agency
Amendment
amends
the
relates
to
paragraph
to
add
citations,
Section
5,
to
insert
Provisions
concerning
qualification
for
a
standalone
dental
plan
outside
of
the
qualified
Health
Plan
enrollment
period,
or
a
special
enrollment
period,
as
well
as
effective
dates
for
those
plans
in
various
sections
to
comply
with
Keras
chapter
13A.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Scott,
welcome
to
the
meeting
as
you're
generally
here
every
month
there
is
an
agency
amendment.
Is
there
discussion
on
the
agency
Amendment?
A
A
B
D
907
1008
amends
to
use
the
ambulatory
Surgical
Center
fee
schedule
as
published
by
CMS
to
determine
reimbursement
rates.
It
moves
requirements
from
the
ASC
manual
to
the
body
of
the
regulation.
It
establishes
an
ongoing
updating
process
for
the
fee
schedule.
It
adds
a
new
section
for
Reproductive
Services.
It
adds
a
new
section
for
documentation,
requirements
and
delete
sections
and
material
that
are
no
longer
needed.
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
amend
section
2
to
clarify
that
bilateral
procedures
shall
be
reimbursed
at
150
percent
of
the
rate
established
by
their
regulation.
D
Instead
of
Bill
charges
clarifies
that
reimbursement
for
multiple
endoscopy
and
multiple
procedure
discounting
shall
follow
the
Medicare
rules,
as
established
by
Federal
Regulation
and
the
federal
processing
manual.
It
clarifies
that
reimbursement
shall
be
limited
to
the
lesser
of
billed
charges
or
the
amount
established
by
the
regulation.
It
adds
Federal
costs,
cross
references
and
includes
information
on
how
to
access
the
revised
ASC
fee
schedule.
S
907-4020
amends
Provisions
to
include
all
k-chip
children
under
this
regulation
clarify
how
a
five
percent
income
disregard
is
to
be
calculated
and
delete.
Outdated
references,
907
4030,
amends
Provisions
to
add
an
option
for
pregnant
recipients
to
receive
k-chip
Services
up
to
the
limits
of
k-chip
phase
3
eligibility
and
expand
the
keychip
phase
3
program
to
218
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level.
The
staff
suggested
amendments
amend
various
sections
to
comply
with
KRS
chapter
13A.
G
907
KR,
20020
and
2100
both
are
meant
to
implement
a
state
plan
amendment
to
extend
Medicaid
coverage
to
new
mothers
for
one
year
following
the
birth
of
a
child
in
accordance
with
Senate
Bill
178
from
the
2022
regular
session.
Additionally,
907
KR
2100
clarifies
language
related
to
the
household
size
of
the
pregnant
person.
A
A
S
910
1090
amends
Provisions
for
personal
care
assistance
to
individuals
with
functional
loss
of
two
or
more
limbs
to
increase
caregiver
subsidies,
revised
background
check,
Provisions
for
consistency
and
clarify
appeals
and
hearing
processes.
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
amends
sections
2
and
12
to
clarify
that
reassessments
shall
be
bi-annually
rather
than
annually
to
align
with
krs-205.905
and
it
means
various
sections
to
comply
with
KRS
chapter
13A.
A
A
A
A
A
B
G
921
kr2006
amends
to
update
definitions,
citations
and
program
names,
eliminate
administrative
barriers
requiring
verifying
School
attendance
for
children
and
remove
deprivation
requirements
that
have
kept
two
parent
families
being
being
eligible
for
ktab.
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
men's
various
sections
to
comply
with
Charis
chapter
13A,
921
kr216
amends
to
increase
resource
limits,
payment,
maximums,
maximum
gross
income
limits
and
standard
of
need,
values,
incorporate
a
cost
of
living
adjustment,
add
balances
in
a
529
or
able
account
to
the
list
of
excluded
resources
and
update
terminology.
G
The
staff
suggested
Amendment
amends
various
sections
to
comply
with
Karis
chapter
13A.
The
agency
Amendment
amends
section
2
1
d2a
to
reinsert
that
the
age
range
for
the
eligible
child
is
16
through
18
years
of
age,
921
kr2
500
amends
to
increase
the
maximum
benefits
for
the
fast
Services,
provided
with
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families,
block
grant
funds
and
update
companion
program
names.
G
921
kr2510
amends
to
increase
the
maximum
benefit
for
rap
Services,
provided
with
the
federal
federal
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families,
block
grant
funds
to
eligible
Kentucky
families
who
need
to
relocate
to
accept
or
maintain
employment,
escape
a
domestic
violence
situation
or
prevent
homelessness.
Uptake
program
names
and
update
the
application,
free
location
assistance
to
include
information
pertaining
to
the
housing
crisis.
U
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
I
hate
to
keep
asking
that,
but
we
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we
pick
up
everything
good.
There
are
staff
amendments.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval?
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
there
is
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection
that
is
so
ordered.
There
is
also
an
agency
amendment.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agency
Amendment?
A
A
I
just
have
maybe
one
question
and
we
might
have
another
question
or
two
as
I
was
reading
these
these
this
set
of
regulations
and
again,
if
I'm,
if
I,
if
I
misquote
something
you
all
please
correct
me
here,
but
as
I
was
reading
through
these
it
just
it
appeared
to
me
that
this
will
increase
the
number
of
people
who
will
be
eligible.
Am
I
correct
on
that.
U
A
U
Completely
federal
dollars,
temporary
assistance
for
needy
family
block
grant
dollars,
and
this
program
has
really
declined
in
utilized
utilization
over
the
past
few
years,
even
through
the
pandemic.
U
To
the
point
where
the
honestly,
the
these
levels
in
here
have
not
been
updated,
since
the
1990s,
much
of
the
language
had
not
been
updated
since
the
1990s.
These
regulations
were
actually
all
up
for
expiration
this
month
because
they
were
out
of
date,
so
they
needed
to
be
amended.
So
we
found
that
the
income
thresholds
currently
are
really
only
serving
about
25
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level.
So
we're
really
talking
about
the
poorest
of
the
poor
families
in
Kentucky
for
individuals
who
are
eligible.
A
I
may
have
another
question
or
two
in
just
a
moment:
does
any
any
other
members
have
any
questions
representative,
Frazier,
Gordon
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
Senator
Alvarado
go
ahead
representative.
Thank.
M
U
U
Yes,
right
now,
there's
about
ten
thousand
that
are
participating
again.
That
number
has
gone
down
every
year.
Actually,
since
TANF
was
created
federally
in
the
1990s,
the
point
was
to
get
individuals
back
to
work,
so
a
little
bit
of
a
decline
is
anticipated,
but
again
even
through
the
pandemic,
we
didn't
really
see
an
uptick
in
participation.
So
it's
about
10,
000
families
are
receiving
this
of
those.
There
are
about
3,
000
adults
who
received
this
and
17
000
children
who
receive
this.
U
So
you
really
see
that
discrepancy,
because
non-parental
relative
caregivers
can
receive
these
funds.
You
may
have
heard
the
president
of
the
kinship
Coalition
speaking
to
child
welfare
oversight
and
advisory
committee
about
this
program.
It's
very
common
for
grandparents
to
receive
funding
through
this
program
for
the
care
of
the
children
that
they're
caring
for
and.
S
U
M
U
O
I
will
add
that,
if
they're
included
in
the
benefit
group,
they
will
almost
always
be
what
considered
work
eligible
for
those
relative
caregivers
that
we
were
mentioned
earlier,
like
the
grandparents
and
so
forth,
generally
they're
not
included
in
the
benefit
group,
so
they're
not
considered
a
work
eligible
and
that's
actually
benefits
them,
because
then
we
don't
have
to
count
any
existing
income.
They
have
in
that
benefit
calculation.
O
I,
don't
have
that
number
with
me.
Laura
do.
U
You
know
that
we
could
follow
up
with
with
you
about
that,
but
we
are
required
by
both
federal
and
state
law
to
administer
that
program
and
ensure
that
eligible
individuals
are
are
part
of
that
program
and.
M
U
Right
well,
3
000
are
3,
000
adults
are
part
of
the
Bennett
group
benefit
group.
Currently.
O
M
M
Okay
and
and
just
looking
at
the
table,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
not
a
question
of
that.
These
amounts
need
increased,
especially
since
it
looks
like
it
was
in
the
90s
when
that
was
said,
and
even
you
know,
combining
the
monthly
gross
income
limits
with
the
maximum
payment
amounts
looks
like
we're
still
coming
out
under
the
the
federal
poverty
guidelines.
M
So
it's
not
a
question
of
doesn't
need,
raised
or
not,
and
how
much
and
that
type
of
thing
I
think
the
question
is
the
the
manner
in
which
it's
being
done,
because
it
seems
to
be
setting
policy
and
that's
the
function
of
this
body.
So
that's
the
question
that
I
have
where
I'm
coming
from
with
these
questions,
but
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
C
Alvarado
go
ahead.
Please
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
thank
you
all
there's
a
lot
of
I'm
sitting
here.
Looking
at
the
first
Rag
and
there's
a
lot
of
language
been
removed,.
M
C
Lot
of
changes
on
that.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
changes
and
definitions
of
immigrant
families
who'd
be
able
to
benefit
from
this.
You
know:
I
see
things
like
deprivation,
a
lot
of
that's
been
removed
and
stricken
so
a
couple
of
things.
I'm
I
get
worried
about.
Whenever
I
see
this
and
kind
of
assistance,
we
know
that
we've
had
some
not
really
a
dispute,
but
it's
a
disagreement
on
SNAP
benefits
under
the
administration.
I
try
to
do
that
eligible
people
that
were
in
a
religious,
perhaps
on
child
support
payments
and
and
I
call.
C
C
So
my
worry
on
this
is
just
I
want
to
make
sure
and
I
can't
tell
I
probably
could
get
more
study
to
this
is
if
there's
people,
for
example,
you
have
to
have
two
parents
in
the
home:
one
is
unemployed,
let's
say
a
mom
is
home,
unemployed,
father
might
be
technically
living
at
home
on
paper
may
not
be.
There
may
owe
money
for
support
not
around,
as
that
individual
get
support
for
this,
for
somebody
who
might
owe
a
rich
is
in
child
support
and
doesn't
pay
them.
Those
are
the
concerns.
C
C
C
I
know:
we've
removed
a
change
definition
on
drug
felons
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
I
guess
it's
always
a
distinction
for
me
between
people
who
are
obviously
users
and
people
that
suffer
from
substance,
use,
disorder
and
addiction
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
trying
to
get
them
treatment
and
back
out
there.
Some
of
us
are
really
concerned
about
dealers
and
people
who
are
in
for
obviously
those
kinds
of
crimes.
So
does
this
distinguish
between
those
individuals.
U
I
believe
that
was
only
affecting
the
snap
program
for
an
individual
to
receive
this.
They
have
to
be
a
custodial
parent
of
a
child
in
their
household.
U
I
S
O
Ahead,
the
recipients
of
the
Kentucky
Transitional
Assistance
Program,
that's
a
monthly
cash
benefit
and
those
amounts
I
believe
are
in
one
of
these
regulations.
If
they're
determined
to
be
a
work
eligible
as
as
I
noted
a
while
ago
that
most
of
them
will
be,
then
they
have
a
weekly
and
then
monthly
participation
requirement
in
what
is
considered
to
be
accountable
activity,
and
we
provide
case
management
assessment
and
help
them
agree
upon
a
plan
for
what
that
participation
is
going
to
be
based
on
that
individual
and
that
could
be
some
education.
O
Some
training
could
just
be
Simply,
Be,
job
search
depending
on
where
they're
at
with
their
skill
level,
and
then,
along
with
that
is
some
Transportation
assistance
and
then
some
other
Supportive
Service
things
like
if
they
need
a
pair
of
work
boots
an
interview
outfit,
something
like
that.
We
can
help
them
with
that
toward
as
they
work
toward
their
goal.
I
I
O
It
we
we
work
with
a
lot
of
Community
Partners,
so
you
know
Statewide.
If
they're
working
with
a
community
action
agencies,
we
are
familiar
with
a
lot
of
those.
We
have
agreements
with
some
of
the
of
the
area,
development,
districts,
different
kinds.
I
O
U
I
R
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
I've
got
a
few
questions,
maybe
for
clarification,
but
I
do
have
some
concerns
too,
and
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
correctly.
Our
maintenance
of
effort
will
not
be
increased.
No.
R
Okay,
and
how
did
you
arrive
at
these
increases?
I
mean
I'm
looking
through
here,
and
some
of
them
are
five
times
increased
from
525
2000
to
10
000..
It's
it's
a
substantial
increase
and
and.
U
It
varies
and
Todd
me
I,
want
to
add
to
this
as
well.
The
amounts
again
not
increased
since
the
1990s,
those
were
doubled.
They
were
proposed
to
be
doubled.
The
resource
limit
that
you
mentioned
being
increased
is
consistent
with
what
many
other
states
have
raised
theirs
too.
So
it
varies
also
in
the
Kentucky
Works
program.
You
know
many
of
those
were
like
a
hundred
or
two
hundred
dollars
for
licensing
fees.
Things
like
that
and
those
were
doubled,
but
they're
they're,
very
small
amounts
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
R
R
Then
I
mean
my
two
concerns
are
three
one
is
I
want
to
make
sure
this
doesn't
conflict
with
the
intent
of
House
Bill
7
that
has
been
brought
up
the
other.
These
are
some
substantial
increases,
whether
federal
or
state
dollars
we're
we're
still.
The
legislative
process
is
to
oversee
that
and
I
can
I'm
concerned
that
being
in
a
committee.
There's
the
transparency
is
not
there.
Okay,
that
you
know
that
maybe
this
this
may
be
something
needs
to
come
up
and
my
main
concern
and
I'm
not
meaning
to
to
be.
R
But
you
know
you,
you
said
it
expires
this
month
and
we're
just
now
seeing
this
reg
and
I
feel
like
we're
at
the
deadline
we
either
gotta,
approve
it
or
or
not,
or
it's
going
to
go
away
or
something
I.
You
know
this
should
have
been
here
months
ago
and
I
I'm
just
worried
about
the
transparency
and
whether
this
is
really
something
that
should
be
decided
in
regulations
or
it
should
be
decided
in
statutes
and
I.
R
U
Sure
I'll
start
with
there's
no
conflict
with
with
House
Bill
7
at
all
that
that
I'm,
aware
of
or
that
are
legal
team
has
foreseen.
In
fact,
these
regulation
changes
are
more
consistent
with
House
Bill
7,
in
that
they
do
take
some
steps
to
address
the
benefits
Cliff
but
they're
I'm,
not
aware
of
anything
in
House,
Bill
7
that
prohibited
anything
in
these
administrative
regulations
or
amending
them.
We
did
present
to
the
benefits
Cliff
task
force
on
these
administrative
regulations.
We
included
what
we
thought.
U
You
know
what
changes
we
had
proposed
that
we
thought
would
help
with
the
benefits
cliff
and
let
them
know
that
we're
open
to
any
suggestions
that
they
have.
We
did
not
receive
any
public
comments
on
this
administrative
regulation
and
that
may
be
why
you're
surprised
to
see
it
earlier,
because,
if
comments
are
received,
that
can
usually
there's
a
back
and
forth
process
that
it
takes
months
at
a
time.
But
these
administrative
regulations
were
in
the
public
comment
period
for
almost
three
months
and
no
comments
were
received.
U
We
would
be
open
to
any
suggestions
or
recommended
changes,
and
we
let
the
benefits.
Cliff
task
force
know
that
as
well
the
changes
that
we've
made
in
these
administrative
regulations.
We
do
have
the
authority
to
change
and
many
of
them
are
really
just
amounts
Now
by
going
through
the
ordinary
amendment
process.
Legislative
review
is
part
of
that.
Public
review
is
part
of
that
and
if
changes
are
desired,
we'd
be
happy
to
to
talk
about
that.
U
U
These
regulations
were
would
be
up
for
expiration,
if
not
amended,
so
that
process
we
can
either
say
we
can
certify
that
regulations
are
fine,
as
is,
and
do
not
need
any
changes,
or
we
can
certify
that
amendments
are
needed
and
start
that
process.
That's
what
we
did
for
these
administrative
regulations,
so
that
starts
a
clock
on
amending.
So
they
would
not.
You
know
automatically
go
away
this
month.
It's
just.
We
started
the
amendment
this
long
amendment
process
of
reviews,
but
but
we
did
have
to
open
these
wrecks
because
much
of
them
was
outdated.
U
Many
of
the
Lang
much
of
the
language
was
removed
because
it
was
from
the
1990s
and
no
longer
relevant,
but
also
we
had
to
amend
one
of
the
regulations
in
this
group
to
include
some
language
that
was
in
House
Bill
7.
House
Bill
7
required
us
to
include
language
around
the
recruitment
of
benefits
and
we
had
to
promulgate
that
regulation
by
a
October,
so
we
had
to
meet
that
deadline
as
well.
So
we
have
these
reasons
that
we
had
to
amend
these
regulations.
U
Anyway,
we
decided
to
take
a
look
at
why
they
were
so
underutilized
and
try
to
make
them
more
accessible
to
individuals
and
help
individuals
and
again
the
Kentucky
Works
program
regulations
are
actually
one
month
behind.
So
you
may
see
those
at
next
month's
meeting,
where
we
increased
some
of
those
values
to
try
to
be
of
Greater
assistance
to
individuals
in
that
program.
U
R
Don't
get
me
wrong,
I
think
it's
a
great
program
I'm,
not
against
it.
I've
just
I
still
have
some
concerns.
I
mean
it's
you.
We
keep
hearing
the
1990s-
yes,
sir,
that's
30
something
years
ago
and
and
we're
seeing
this
with
a
lot
of
not
just
your
department,
a
lot
of
departments
coming
up.
Well,
it's
been
20
30
40
years.
I
think
we
need
to
be
more
concurrent
than
that
or
more
current
with
that
those
increases
were
we're
not
hitting
with
I
mean
you're
talking
from
2010
000..
P
R
It's
Federal
dollar
State
dollars.
It
doesn't
matter
that
we
should
have
some
incremental
processes,
a
review
that
happens
and
especially
not
to
get
it
before
us
the
month.
It
expires.
You
know,
I,
just
I'm,
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
more
diligent
than
that
preparing
so
that
we
can
prepare,
because
I
really
do
think
this
needs
to
go
towards
before
the
legislation
for
some
final
thoughts
before
we
just
approve
it.
So
that's
my
concerns.
A
Representative
Frazier
Gordon,
please
go
ahead.
She
has
another
question.
M
U
A
I
I
think
we've
had
several
we've
had
some
good
questions,
I
think,
and
certainly
we're
not
here
to
to
pick
a
fight
about
this
I
I'm,
I'm
I.
Think
it's
good.
What
we're
doing
here
and
and
I
I
totally
agree
from
1990
30
plus
years
ago,
I
think
it's
certainly
something
we.
We
definitely
need
to
take
a
look
at
I.
I.
A
Think
I
have
a
tendency
to
agree
just
a
little
bit
with
representative
bridges
that
maybe
we
might
need
to
slow
it
down
just
a
little
bit
so
I'm,
just
gonna
I'm,
just
going
to
ask
you
this
and
and
I
would
appreciate.
If
you
would
please
do
this
to
maybe
just
defer
this
for
this
month
and
and
look
at
this
a
little
bit
later
down
the
road
until
maybe
we
can
get
them.
Maybe
a
few
more
of
our
questions
answered.
Would
you
all
have
a
problem
with
that?
If.
U
It's
the
will
of
the
committee.
We
will
agree
to
defer
any
again
any
suggestions
or
changes.
A
I
want
to
thank
you
for
you,
you
made
when
you
made
this
statement
that
you
was
open
to
subject,
suggestions
that
kind
of
kind
of
what
brought
this.
If
you
would
be
willing
to
maybe
listen
to
a
few
suggestions
and
if
you
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
and
I
think
it
probably
would
be
the
I
think
from
the
standpoint
of
the
committee
I
think
we
would
maybe
like
to
maybe
input
a
few
suggestions.
If
that
would
be
okay,
so
would
the
and
again
you
would
be
willing
to
defer
that
regulation.
Yes,.
A
The
if
the
agencies
you
do
agree,
is
there
a
motion
for
deferral
this
time
there
is
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection.
It
is
sorted
the
motion
or
the
regulation.
I'm
sorry
is
deferred.
Thank
you
all
for
doing
that.
We
and
again
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
this
is.
This
is
something
we
certainly
need
and
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
we're
we're
not
here
to
fight
you
on
this,
but
we
do
appreciate
you
deferring
it
and
giving
us
giving
a
little
more
time.
So
anything
else
you'd
like
to
add
to
that.
U
A
Yes,
we
would
not
include
that
one.
Thank
you
just
just
not
that
one
would
be
exempt
from
that
referral.
Thank
you,
I'm
fine,
we're!
So
we
do
have.
We
have
had
a
motion
and
a
second
without
objection,
a
disordered,
the
regulation
that
set
of
regs
is
deferred.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
today
we
appreciate.
A
And
so
we've
already
taken
care
of
that.
Otherwise,
so
is
that
the
end?
So
that
is
the
conclusion.
Thank
you
all
today
we
will
be
told
when
our
next
meeting
will
be
at
this
time.