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Guam
haven't
been
established,
we're
duly
constituted
to
do
business
at
this
time.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
You
should
have
seen
those
in
your
packet
from
October
the
12th,
because
the
motion
is
there.
A
second
motion
is
second,
all
those
in
favor.
Please
signify
by
saying
aye
all
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
and
the
minutes
are
adopted.
We
will
go
ahead
and
move
straight
into
our
agenda.
D
We
have
a
pretty
full
agenda
this
morning
this
afternoon
go
ahead
and
bring
on
up
boa,
and
if
you
guys
want
to
come
to
the
table,
introduce
yourselves
to
the
record.
You
may
proceed
anytime.
You
would
like.
E
F
Today
we're
going
to
tell
three
parts
of
this
story
and
I'm
going
to
be
joined
by
a
number
of
colleagues,
it's
important
to
VOA
and
to
all
of
us
that
do
this
work,
that
we
do
this
in
partnership
with
others
and
so
you're,
going
to
see
a
variety
of
the
Partnerships
that
we
have
been
able
to
secure
over
a
long
period
of
time.
Just
as
a
quick
reminder,
VOA
has
been
operating
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
since
1896
and
through
that
126-year
history.
F
We
know
that
we
simply
cannot
operate
in
a
silo
that
we
don't
have
all
the
answers
for
all
the
problems
that
we're
seeking
to
solve,
and
so
that
collaboration
is
truly
at
the
heart
of
everything
that
we
do
and
I
think
that
you
will
see
that
over
the
course
of
today's
presentation.
I
start
with
this
slide
intentionally
because
I
think
it's
important
that
we
begin
today's
presentation
by
keeping
the
focus
on
the
real
outcomes
that
we
are
able
to
accomplish,
and
this
Story
begins
with
little
Cali
Grace.
F
She
was
born
to
a
mom
receiving
services
at
our
freedom
house
in
Louisville
on
September
5th
Cali
was
born
healthy
free
from
any
substance
exposure
weighing
six
pounds
and
five
ounces
she's
continuing
to
gain
weight
and
do
well.
She
and
her
mother
are
stable.
They
are
housed
they're
in
recovery,
housing
and
continuing
on
their
Journey.
Really.
She
is
why
we
do
what
we
do
at
Volunteers
of
America,
because
she
is
an
example
of
the
real,
life-changing
and
life-saving
impact
of
this
mission.
F
I
also
want
to
mention
before
we
go
any
further,
that
with
the
2021
data
that
the
office
for
drug
control
policy
released
recently
van
Ingram
shared
that
we
lost
2250
kentuckians
to
overdose
during
last
year,
and
that
is
tragic.
That
is
unacceptable,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we've
partnered
with
the
general
assembly
to
ensure
that
this
program
is
more
regionally
accessible
and
we're
going
to
share
more
about
that.
F
Today,
I'm
joined
first
by
some
of
my
colleagues
who
are
dear
Partners
to
us
at
Volunteers
of
America,
soon
they'll
introduce
themselves,
but
now
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
model
of
Freedom
House.
Many
of
you
are
familiar,
but
just
as
a
quick
recap,
this
is
a
program
that
began
in
Kentucky.
In
1993
we
were
the
first
provider
that
recognized
that
we
needed
specialized
services
to
treat
a
specialized
population
of
women
who
are
pregnant
or
postpartum
and
substance
use
disorder.
F
So,
as
we
have
expanded
this
model,
we
are
now
in
not
only
Jefferson
County,
but
in
Clay
County
Kentucky.
We
opened
our
Clay
County
program
right
at
the
start
of
the
pandemic
in
March
of
2020,
and
that
did
not
cause
us
to
miss
a
beat
we
staffed
up.
We
opened
up
our
program.
We
have
been
full
every
single
day
since,
with
a
greater
demand
than
the
capacity
of
beds
that
we
have
today.
So
part
of
our
expansion
plan
includes
doubling
the
size
of
our
capacity
in
Clay
County.
F
One
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
on
this
particular
slide,
that
is
notable,
is
the
fact
that
our
organization
takes
great
pride
in
the
fact
that
we
measure
real
outcomes,
not
just
outputs
of
the
work
that
we
do
so.
Some
of
those
outcomes
that
are
particularly
important
include
the
number
of
healthy
deliveries
that
we're
able
to
accomplish.
F
The
number
of
one
of
the
other
metrics
that
we
look
at
is
the
the
infants
that,
in
their
first
postnatal
visit,
they
have
an
increase
in
their
weight
gain.
We
also
look
at
the
fact
that
we
work
with
many
women
who
are
engaged
in
child
welfare
they've
had
their
children
removed
from
their
custody
and
it's
our
goal.
F
Additionally,
we
always
measure
client,
satisfaction
and
98
of
the
women
that
we've
served
say
that
they
have
absolutely
benefited
from
our
services.
Another
key
metric
that
we
track-
and
this
is
something
that
our
friends
at
Humana
and
the
other
plans
care
about
too,
are
the
number
of
NICU
days
and
2021.
The
average
length
of
stay
in
a
NICU
for
infants,
born
with
neonatal
abstinence
syndrome,
was
18
days
compared
to
in
our
louisville-based
programs,
two
days
in
Clay,
County
or
Manchester
five
days
and
what
we
see
there-
and
this
is
really
no
surprise-
a
newer
program.
F
You
heard
me
mention
that,
because
of
your
support,
we
are
going
to
some
new
markets
and
I
want
to
say
that
you
were
very
supportive
of
a
request
and
in
fact,
I
want
to
particularly
thank
representative
Mead
and
others
who
saw
that
we
have
the
capability
to
go
into
some
new
markets,
and
so
we
took
your
8
million
dollar
investment
and
we
take
that
very
seriously
and
we
have
gone
out
into
various
markets
and
asked
for
the
private
sector
to
match
your
support
and
I'm,
really
so
thrilled
to
tell
you
today
that
so
far
and
we
are
actively
still
fundraising,
but
so
far
we
have
Partners
at
Humana
that
have
pledged
one
million
dollars
of
support
towards
the
expansion
we
just
announced.
F
Yesterday,
WellCare
has
made
a
one
million
dollar
investment
in
our
expansion.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
one
million
dollars
of
investment
made
by
Saint
Elizabeth
Hospital
in
Northern
Kentucky
PNC
Bank
made
a
100
000
commitment.
The
Hager
educational
fund
foundation
in
Owensboro
has
pledged
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
support,
and
later
this
month,
the
Kentucky
State
Chamber
and
the
Kentucky
Sports
Radio
Duo
of
Matt
Jones
and
Ashley
Watts
will
be
with
us
in
Owensboro
when
we
announce
their
investment
of
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
F
I
also
want
to
mention
that
in
Northern
Kentucky,
some
of
our
key
Partners
include
the
organization
led
by
Alicia
Webb
Edgington
called
Life
Learning
Center.
It's
really
by
Alicia's
invitation
that
first
got
us
to
evaluating
the
market
in
Northern
Kentucky,
to
see
where
the
gaps
and
services
are
and
then
of
course,
Saint.
Elizabeth
is
very
eager
to
have
us
open
a
program
there.
So
we've
got
great
partners
and
we'll
continue
to
talk
about
those
throughout
this
presentation.
F
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
most
proud
about
at
Volunteers
of
America
is
that
we
have
been
able
to
take
the
program
design.
It's
of
course,
an
evidence-based
model
of
practice
that
has
been
grown
and
developed
over
almost
now
30
years
and
it
has
been
replicated
in
five
other
states
in
in
the
United
States
and
one
of
the
things
that
occurred
earlier
this
year.
That
was
a
wonderful
visit.
We
had
the
White
House
drug
czar,
Dr
Raul
Gupta,
who
visited
Kentucky
specifically
to
see
freedom
house,
and
we
were
co-hosting
him
with
Senator
Mitch
McConnell.
F
In
addition
to
that,
we
were
able
to
share
some
of
the
results
of
a
Robert,
Woods
Johnson
study
that
we
have
conducted
to
evaluate
the
linkages
of
care
within
our
freedom,
House
Network
in
an
Urban
Market
like
Louisville
versus
a
more
rural
market
like
Manchester
and
Dr
Liza
creel,
who
is
the
principal
investigator
on
the
Robert
Woods
Johnson
project
she's
from
the
University
of
Louisville.
She
was
part
of
a
panel
discussion
with
myself
and
Dr
Gupta
and
Senator
McConnell
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
friends
and
colleagues
here
from
Humana.
F
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
remarks
regarding
our
partnership
when
I
think
about
the
importance
of
having
value
alignment
between
our
partners,
a
commitment
to
doing
the
right
thing
for
those
we
serve
even
when
it's
complicated
and
very
difficult
I
can
think
of
no
better
example
of
this
type
of
partnership
than
Humana
Humana
and
VOA
have
a
lot
in
common
we're
both
headquartered
in
Louisville.
We
care
deeply
about
our
neighbors
kentuckians,
who
are
suffering
from
the
complexity
of
substance,
use,
disorder
and
often
mental
health
issues,
and
it's
really
been
Humana.
F
That's
been
at
our
side
for
a
long
long
time,
but
recently
accelerated
the
growth
of
our
expansion,
not
just
here
in
the
Commonwealth
but
in
other
parts
of
our
country.
So
I'm
really
delighted
today
that
we're
joined
by
Jeb
and
Abby
they're
going
to
introduce
themselves
and
they're
going
to
take
these
next
few
slides.
G
Great,
thank
you.
Jennifer
very
kind
words
and
I'd
like
to
reflect
that
as
well.
I
appreciate
the
partnership
we've
created
with
VOA
and
truly
kentucky-based
organizations
serving
kentuckians.
You
know,
I
see
a
lot
of
value
of
not
only
what
we've
done
historically,
but
what
we
can
do
as
a
partner
moving
forward.
You
know
first
I'd
just
like
to
begin
by
thanking
chairman
Adams,
chairman
Mead
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
share
a
little
bit
about
our
partnership.
G
My
name
is
Jeb
Duke
I'm,
the
health
plan
leader
for
Medicaid
in
Kentucky
for
Humana.
We
serve
around
170,
000
kentuckians,
but,
but
importantly,
we
serve
41,
000
kentuckians,
who
have
substance,
abuse
needs
or
who
have
a
serious
mental
illness
and
our
ability
to
impact
those
populations
is
is
really
evolved.
With
relationships
like
we
have
with
VOA
Humana
a
sense
of
pandemic
began,
we've
contributed
around
40
million
dollars
to
community
any
partners
and
that's
to
do
several
things.
G
As
Jennifer
mentioned,
we
are
making
a
one
million
dollar
contribution,
but
we've
developed
a
1.5
million
dollars
in
funds
that
have
been
available
to
the
VOA
and
that's
to
do
several
different
things
you
know.
First,
is
what
we've
challenged
them
to
do
is
to
really
think
about
value-based
payment
and
not
just
with
Humana.
How
can
VOA
and
Freedom
House
take
a
step
back
think
about
payment
models
in
Kentucky
work
through
an
industry
level
approach
to
move
Managed
Care
into
a
value-based
payment
model?
And
what
are
the
mechanism
mechanisms
we
can
judge
to
determine?
G
What
are
the
outcomes
we
should
be
measuring
and
ensuring
that
freedom
house
has
the
funds
available
to
actually
conduct
those
measurements?
However,
over
time
we
can
show
the
path
of
value
and
we
can
return
value
back
to
those
providers
who
are
investing
in
the
whole
member.
So
the
Freedom
House
approach
really
thinks
about
what
are
the
all
of
the
Deeds
of
this
patient.
Now,
what
are
the
needs
of
the
family?
G
What
are
the
social
determinants
and
what
is
not
only
the
outcome
of
the
patient
but
of
the
child
post,
birth
and
and
that's
the
way,
we're
developing
our
value-based
payment
model.
So
as
of
January
23rd
with
DMS
approval,
we
will
be
transitioning
with
Freedom
House
the
value-based
model
and
we're
going
to
return
value
in
two
different
ways.
First,
it's
post
discharge.
So
after
a
patient,
it's
less
Freedom
House.
Are
they
staying
on
that
path
to
recovery
and
then?
G
Secondly,
as
we
look
at
that
child,
are
we
keep
keeping
them
and
limiting
the
time
that
NICU
or
preventing
that
NICU
admission,
so
we're
extremely
excited
to
truly
transition
to
a
value-based
payment
model?
But
what
we're
trying
to
solve
is
not
just
issue
with
Humana,
specifically
we're
trying
to
move
the
industry
into
these
types
of
models.
G
I
have
Abby
Gilbert
with
me:
she's
our
population
Health,
one
of
our
leaders
in
Kentucky
she's,
done
a
lot
of
valuable
work
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
she's,
a
member
of
the
VOA
board
and
I'd
like
her
to
share
her
journey
and
kind
of
where
we
are
today
and
what
the
future
looks
like
with
VOA
three.
E
Thank
you
Jeb
good
afternoon,
everyone
Abby
Gilbert,
just
a
little
bit
about
my
background,
so
I
actually
studied
public
health
and
I've
been
at
Ximena
for
about
nine
years,
primarily
in
our
population.
E
Health,
Health,
Equity,
social
determinants
of
Health
space
and
I
have
the
privilege,
though,
I
get
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
Kentucky,
really
taking
and
learning
about
great
models
that
we
have
all
over
the
country
in
different
areas
and
helping
our
markets
to
understand
how
we
can
expand
those
services
in
other
places,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone
that
please
feel
free,
I
think
we're
going
to
take
questions
at
the
very
end
of
this.
But
it
is
a
long.
E
E
So
first
Jennifer
did
mention
the
the
white
paper
I
think
all
of
you
do
have
that
in
just
a
little
bit
more
information.
So
Jennifer
mentioned
the
expansion
of
these
programs
in
other
states,
and
so
we
we
really
took
the
time
to
together
to
develop
this
white
paper.
That
not
only
has
information
around
the
great
outcomes
in
the
model
that
VOA
does
here
locally
in
Kentucky,
but
also
policy
recommendations
and
a
lot
of
information
around
some
of
these
Innovative
payment
models
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about.
E
I
know
Jennifer
did
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
model
and
I
think
we
just
wanted
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time,
helping
everyone
to
understand
why
we
feel
there's
so
much
value
in
the
model
that
VOA
that
VOA
does
here
in
Kentucky,
and
that
really
starts
with
focusing
on
comprehensive
screening
to
not
only
address
the
behavioral
health
challenges
that
our
members
face,
but
also
comprehensive
screening
for
all
of
the
other
social
needs
that
that
these
members
face
and
understanding
that
we
can't
truly
take
care
of
treatment
and
Recovery
if
we're
not
looking
holistically
at
all
those
needs.
E
So
VOA
does
a
great
job
again
at
understanding:
How,
We,
Do,
matte
treatment,
Behavioral,
Health,
General,
overall
health
of
mothers
and
babies,
but
also
counseling
case
management,
focus
on
Workforce
Development,
outpatient
housing.
What
are
the
truly
the
needs?
Do
these
moms
need
more
help
understanding
how
to
take
care
of
their
babies,
how
to
get
a
job?
How
do
we
ensure
that
they
are
in
stable
housing
and
sick,
really
successful
to
be
on
their
own
post
post
discharge
of
these
programs?
E
So
I
think
that
we'll
talk
a
lot
a
little
bit
more
today
again
about
these
value-based
payments,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
just
show
that
there
are
many
things
that
VOA
is
doing,
that
is
outside
of
the
traditional
behavioral
health
treatment
that
these
members
are
are
seeking.
So
next
slide,
as
mentioned,
we
are
currently
looking
at
a
new
payment
model
that
will
incentivize
out
great
outcomes.
So
Jeb
did
mention
a
little
bit
around.
E
How
can
we
not
only
pay
VOA
for
the
services
that
they're
providing
but
incentivize
them
and
pay
them
for
those
positive
outcomes
that
they
are
having?
So
if
baby
is
born
healthy
and
not
spending
time?
In
the
NICU,
then,
they
should
be
incentivized
and
rewarded
for
that
outcome.
It's
better
for
Mom,
it's
better
for
the
providers.
E
It's
you
know
better
for
us
and
also
understanding
that
a
lot
of
the
things
that
they're
doing
that
is
helping
Mom
and
baby
have
better
outcomes,
aren't
things
that
are
traditionally
paid
for
Via,
Medicaid,
so
diapers
or
child
care
or
extra
tutoring,
or
whatever
emotional
support
that
these
women
need
to
be
successful.
Those
are
not
always
things
that
are
traditionally
paid
for,
so
we
can
really
incentivize
the
VOA
to
continue
the
quality
of
their
program,
not
just
what
it
is
that
is
traditionally
reimbursed
so
again,
rewarding
them
for
for
that
quality
outcome
versus
volume.
E
I
think
Jeb
also
mentioned
it's
important
for
us
to
look
and
say
six
months
out
has
mom
had
any
additional
sud
claims,
and
also
again
six
months
and
at
a
year
so
really
saying
it's
not
one
thing
just
to
to
graduate
from
this
program.
But
if
we're
really
helping
Mom
ultimately
recover
and
become
you
know
a
healthy
member
of
society,
then
we
want
to
additionally
reward
VOA
for
for
that
work
beyond
that,
and
then
again
just
understanding
that
right
now,
this
value-based
contract
that
Jeb
mentioned
is
going
to
be
first
at
the
Manchester
facility.
E
But
hopefully
how
do
we
ultimately
again
keep
increasing
the
opportunity
for
VOA
to
to
expand
and
build
more
beds
and
build
more
homes
for
these
mothers
to
get
healthy,
but
also
help
them
to
have
a
sustainable
payment
model
that
isn't
just
dependent
on
additional
fundraising
or
you
know,
additional
money,
that's
coming
from
the
state,
but
really
saying
there
is
value
that
we
will
unlock
when
we
have
more
of
our
moms
and
babies
in
this
particular
program.
So
I
will
stop
for
a
second
I.
Think.
D
If
it's
okay,
cinderberg
we'll
let
them
finish
up
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you.
Okay,.
E
And
then,
last
but
not
least,
just
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
are
in
the
white
paper.
Jennifer
mentioned
the
partner
that
we
have
Quantified
Ventures
and
the
importance
of
them
really
helping
us
and
bua
take
a
step
back
and
say
what
again
is
not
just
what
is
reimbursed
by
Medicaid.
But
what
is
the
total
cost
of
these
programs
and
then
how
do
we
back
into
that
and
ultimately
align
how
we're
paying
VOA
for
these
Services
again
I?
Think
taking
all
of
that
Jennifer
mentioned
data.
E
We've
talked
a
lot
about
data
and
outcomes
But.
Ultimately,
she
will
also
speak
to
some
research
that
we're
doing
together,
but
really
saying
over
time.
We
have
to
better
measure
these
outcomes
and
use
that
to
inform
how
we
think
about
policies
and
services
moving
forward,
because,
ultimately,
you
know
I
think
we
believe
that
outcomes
should
be
rewarded
and
I
think
everyone
is
aligned
that
that's
the
best
thing
for
everyone,
so
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
Jennifer.
F
I
want
to
underscore
something
that
Jeb
and
Abby
just
said
regarding
the
fact
that
the
current
payment
structure
really
does
not
incentivize
quality,
it
incentivizes
volume
and
it's
very
difficult
to
treat
trauma.
If
we
could
all
agree
that,
for
a
substance,
use
disorder
is
a
brain
disease
and
that
often
the
gateway
drug
is
trauma.
It's
very
difficult
to
have
an
evidence-based
trauma-based
program
when
you're
serving
two
and
three
five
seven
hundred
people
at
a
time.
F
Our
program
insists
that
we
have
a
small
cohort
of
women
and
families
being
treated
together
concurrently,
so
that
we
can
go
long
and
deep
with
them,
and
our
program
design
is
intentional
that
we
want
to
stay
with
Mom
and
baby
for
the
first
three
years
of
that
infant's
life.
We
know
that
child
maltreatment
in
Kentucky
is
most
likely
to
occur
in
those
first.
F
Three
years
of
life,
plus,
we
know
mom's
greatest
risk
to
return
to
use,
occurs
in
her
first
three
years
of
recovery,
three,
so
the
design
today
in
terms
of
the
payment
modeling
does
not
capture
all
of
our
costs.
So
we
are
actively
fundraising
in
communities
from
private
sources
through
grants
and
other
sources
of
individual
support
to
be
able
to
provide
this
type
of
program,
and
it's
really
not
sustainable.
As
we
add
additional
markets
like
Owensboro
Stanford
and
Northern
Kentucky,
one
of
the
things
that's
important
and
we're
talking.
F
Of
course,
a
lot
about
data
is
not
just
us
capturing
data
ourselves.
We
have
a
quality
assurance
division
within
our
organization
at
VOA,
with
really
smart
people
who
are
tracking
and
measuring
everything
that
we
do.
But
if
we're
truly
going
to
be
accountable
to
you,
I
think
you
might
want
some
external
objective
input
and
we
have
a
lot
of
that
at
VOA.
I
mentioned
earlier.
The
Robert
Woods
Johnson
study
that's
been
very
important
to
us
to
evaluate
how
these
two
models
are
working
in
an
urban
and
rural
setting.
F
I
mentioned
and
Dr
Liza
creel,
with
the
University
of
Louisville
she's,
also
joined
by
Dr
Scott
Duncan
who's,
a
neonatologist
chief
of
neonatology
at
the
University
of
Louisville,
and
also
serves
with
Abby
on
our
board
of
directors.
That
study
is
called
strengthening,
Health,
Equity
and
Recovery
outcomes
or
Shiro
for
short,
and
we're
continuing
to
take
the
learnings
from
that
to
apply
to
the
model
as
we
expand.
F
We
also
have
an
active
Grant
in
Manchester
through
the
substance,
abuse
mental
health
services,
administration
of
our
federal
government,
and
with
that
Grant
comes
the
ability
to
hire
an
evaluator
and
that
person
is
out
of
the
University
of
Kentucky.
We
also
have
two
active
evaluations
going
on
from
the
University
of
Louisville
and
we
have
a
partnership
with
Eastern
Kentucky
University
and
they
have
an
evaluator
embedded
into
our
restorative
justice
program
and
we'll
be
talking
about
that
in
just
a
moment.
F
So
both
Abby
and
Jeb
referred
to
a
total
investment
of
1.5
million
dollars.
That
Humana
is
making
with
VOA
1
million
dedicated
to
our
freedom
house
expansion.
This
next
gift
is
something
that
I'm
very
excited
about,
because
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
had
a
first
in
my
career
earlier
this
year,
I
had
an
angel
investor
come
into
my
world.
This
is
someone
who
actively
reached
out
to
me
and
said:
I
want
to
come,
see.
F
Freedom
House
and
I
want
to
find
out
how
I
can
invest
directly
into
the
mission
of
Freedom
House
and
after
about
a
two-hour
conversation,
it
became
clear
to
both
of
us
that
she
saw
the
value
proposition
and
the
business
case
for
us
doing
this
work
but
recognizes
that
we
do
not
get
paid
to
evaluate
long-term
outcomes.
The
payment
structure
ends
when
Mom
is
discharged,
so
we're
capturing
a
lot
of
point-in-time
data
NICU
days,
graduation
rates,
but
as
Abby
just
said,
where
are
moms
and
babies
6
and
12
months
out.
F
So
she
said,
I
will
make
an
800
000
investment
to
be
able
to
conduct
a
social
return
on
investment
study,
a
longitudinal
study,
and
this
was
actually
costing
us
as
we
went
and
started
looking
for
research,
Partners,
1.3
million
dollars
over
five
years,
and
so
Humana
stepped
up
to
say.
Let
us
fill
that
Gap
and
that's
what
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
contribution
will
be
used
for
so
I'm
really
excited.
F
This
is
a
first
I
I,
don't
know
of
any
other
providers
and
would
love
to
know
if
there
are
others
that
have
invited
this
kind
of
rigorous
research
study.
To
really
come
under
the
tent
with
us
evaluate
everything
that
we
do
and
really
tell
the
story
of
where
these
families
are
two
and
three
and
five
years
out.
We
have
a
dynamic
duo
that
we
have
selected
to
conduct
the
evaluation
Dr
Curry
Rigg.
He
is
a
professor
in
the
Department
of
Mental
Health
law
and
policy
at
the
University
of
South
Florida.
F
He
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
analyzing
the
data
and
writing
the
narrative
that
goes
along
with
this
we're
currently
seeking
IRB
approval,
because
this
we
hope,
will
be
in
a
peer-reviewed
journal
and
will
be
widely
published,
so
that
not
only
will
VOA
benefit
from
this,
but
we
are
going
to
be
gifting
this
to
other
providers
Across
the
Nation.
The
other
person
involved
in
this
study
is
a
gentleman
who
I
met
through
my
relationship
with
Dr
Gupta
at
the
White
House.
His
name
is
Jared.
Koski
Jared
has
an
interesting
background.
F
He
proudly
served
our
nation
and
when
he
came
out
of
service,
he
became
the
Actuarial
for
the
multi-state
opioid
lawsuit
against
Pharmaceuticals.
He
analyzed
literally
billions
of
claims
and
helps
them
identify
what
the
correct
repayment
model
would
look
like
for
States
across
the
country,
so
Dr,
Rigg
and
Jared
are
going
to
be
responsible
for
looking
at
both
the
economic
return
on
investment,
as
well
as
the
social
return
on
investment.
I
want
to
give
you
an
example
and
I
wish
I
had
a
picture
actually
to
go
along
with
this.
F
We
took
a
photograph
of
three
of
our
freedom
house
graduates
about
five
years
ago.
They
were
all
grad,
have
graduated
Freedom
House.
They
met
as
clients,
they
became
fast
friends,
they
graduated
together.
Interestingly,
they
all
had
little
baby
boys
right
around
the
same
time.
All
three
of
them
went
into
our
recovery
housing
and
they
lived
in
transitional
housing
and
right
around
the
time
that
their
kids
turned
one.
We
captured
this
photograph
of
the
three
women
and
their
their
little
boys
sitting
on
their
laps
outside
of
our
transitional
housing.
F
F
Every
other
provider,
to
our
knowledge
limits,
the
number
or
the
ages
of
the
kids
and
I
understand
why
it's
a
complicated
world
and
it's
a
complicated
program
design
when
you
can
have
infants
up
to
17
year
olds
in
your
care.
But
we
have
made
the
commitment
that
we
want
to
remove
that
barrier
for
Mom
and
we're
going
to
take
on
the
responsibility
of
offering
age-appropriate
developmentally
appropriate
treatment
to
those
kids,
which
is
why
this
becomes
a
primary
prevention
program
as
well.
B
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
guys
for
an
amazing
presentation.
I
have
I
have
a
number
of
questions,
but
if
it's
okay
I'm
going
to
limit
it
to
two,
do
you
all
have
any
idea
of
what
percentage
of
the
need
you're
able
to
meet.
F
We
are
today
meeting
very
little
of
the
need
and
I
can't
tell
you
Senator
Berg
a
specific
percentage.
We
have
capacity
today
for
about
60
families.
At
a
time
we
will
add
some
additional
75
to
100
beds
through
this
expansion
and
we're
not
just
thinking
about
treatment
and
isolation,
we're
thinking
about
an
entire
recovery
ecosystem,
so
all
of
those
other
components
that
bring
value
including
recovery
housing
as
part
of
our
plan,
as
we
expand.
B
All
right,
I
I,
assumed
it
was
a
pretty
small
percentage.
I
mean
every
step
in
the
right
direction,
is
an
amazing
step
in
the
right
direction,
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
of
of
what
the
unmed
needs
are
going
to
be,
and
then
I
was
actually
rather
interested
and
if
somebody
could
Supply
me
a
list
of
of
what
measurements
for
Value
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
I
mean.
Obviously
you
know.
Nicu
days
has
already
been
mentioned.
If
we're
going
to
look
at
relapse
rates,
I
I
hope
hope.
B
That's
going
to
be
tempered
by
an
understanding
of
what
national
relapse
rates
are
because
they're
still
high,
even
with
excellent
treatment,
and
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
worth
treating
and
then
the
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
add-
and
this
is
just
a
personal
plug
on
my
part.
But
if
you're
dealing
with
you
know,
300
plus
families
with
infants.
F
Great
great
feedback
and
I
will
tell
you
that
part
of
our
program
design
includes
a
nurse
practitioner,
that's
embedded
in
our
program
and
she's
responsible
for
parenting
and
education,
so
we
do
a
breastfeeding
education
and
provide
lactation
support
on
all
of
our
campuses.
So
absolutely
that
is
something
that
we'll
capture
in
our
notes.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
Jennifer
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember,
but
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
tour
your
Louisville
site
and
I
just
have
to
tell
you
that
you
guys
do
amazing.
Work
and
I
really
appreciate
what
you
put
on
here
today
and
it
was
such
a
wonderful
wake-up
call
that
Saturday
we
spent
and
I'm
just
very
impressed.
So
thank.
D
Are
there
any
further
questions
or
comments
before
we
proceed?
Excuse
me,
I
will
say
this
that
it's
interesting
to
look
at
the
Partnerships
that
you
have
developed
with
folks
like
Humana
and
other
corporate
Partners.
It's
something
that
you
don't
typically
see
in
these
types
of
programs
and
I
think
that
that
speaks
to
the
success
rate
and
the
professionalism
that
you
have
at
VOA
and
I.
Think
that
is
to
be
credited
to
your
hard
work
and
your
dedication
in
those
long
days
like
nights
that
you
put
forward
to
make
it
a
success.
D
F
Actions
and
feedback
and
I
do
appreciate
all
of
that.
This
study
that
we
will
soon
launch
what's
going
to
be
really
unique
about.
It,
too,
is
that
we're
hiring
two
Freedom
House
graduates
that
will
be
research,
assistants
and
they're,
going
to
be
embedded
in
our
program
and
develop
relationships
with
our
current
clients.
So
if
they,
if
and
when
they
return
to
use
it's
going
to
be
an
easy
path
back
for
them,
they're
not
going
to
get
disconnected
from
us.
F
F
G
F
I
don't
know:
please
meet
my
friend
mayor,
Tom
Watson
from
Owensboro,
so
chairman
meet
I,
appreciate
your
comments
about
collaboration
and
Partnerships
and
from
corporate
to
city
government
leaders.
When
we
go
into
new
communities,
we
want
it
to
be
Community
Driven,
not
VOA,
driven
right.
We
know
some
things.
We
have
some
evidence-based
practices,
but
it
really
has
to
be
customized
to
that
unique
community
and
we
want
to
get
integrated
into
the
community.
F
I
think
the
story
of
Clay
County
is
a
great
one,
where
we've
been
able
to
fully
integrate
we've
added
42
jobs
where
part
of
that
Community
now
and
have
leaders
leading
our
programs
in
that
community
that
are
local.
Similarly,
we
want
to
accomplish
that
in
each
of
these
new
markets.
Owensboro
is
a
beautiful
example
of
what
a
strong
and
vibrant
advisory
Council
can
accomplish.
They
have
been
our
guides
from
the
very
first
day.
You
can
look
at
this
list
of
leaders
that
have
joined
us
and
it's
not
just
just
leaders
on
our
advisory
Council.
F
Although
this
is
a
very
impressive
list,
it
includes
other
supporters
like
Senator,
Matt,
castlin
and
representative
Suzanne
miles,
who
were
with
us
every
step
of
the
way
as
we
started
to
have
Town
Hall
meetings
and
really
listen
and
learn
from
the
community
about
what
they
had
the
most
urgent
needs
around
and
what
they
wanted
to
see.
As
we
were
building
this
Coalition
in
their
Community,
there's
been
no
one,
who's
been
more
engaged
and
supportive
than
mayor
Tom
Watson.
We
text
a
lot
and
we
talk
a
lot
and
I
have
to
tell
you
that.
F
Not
only
is
he,
the
mayor
of
Owensboro,
sometimes
I,
think
he's
our
real
estate
agent.
Our
chief
development
officer,
he's
constantly
flipping
me
leads
whether
it's
property
that
might
be
available
or
a
new
person
that
we
should
meet
and
talk
to
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
now
mayor
Watson.
Thank.
C
You
Jennifer
foreign,
thank
you,
I
appreciate
your
service,
I
understand,
elected
official
service
and
it's
sometimes
gratitude
is
something
you
don't
always
hear,
but
I
certainly
appreciate
your
service,
though.
C
Several
it
was
this
last
year,
I
guess
Senator
McConnell
called
me
and
said
you
know
you
need
to
come
to
Louisville
on
Saturday
morning
and
listen
to
this
story,
so
I'm
thinking
golf,
no
I
guess:
I
go
to
go
to
Louisville,
so
I'll
go
and
Jennifer
referenced.
That
group
we
had
together
and
it
was
a
really
interesting
president
steibers
was
there
and,
and
they
had
that
long
panel
and
they
started
talking
about
numbers
and
all
those
things
and
got
got
down
to
this
little
young
lady.
C
At
the
end
and
and
her
story
just
captivated
me
the
trials
and
tribulations
of
substance
abuse
that
she
was
going
through
and
with
her
pregnancy
and
the
child.
She
couldn't
have
and
finally
got
herself
squared
away
and
got
the
child
back
and,
and
they
hooked
me
right
then,
because
you
know
I
I'm
involved
in
quite
a
few
re-entry
programs,
Second
Chance
programs,
a
lot
of
things
in
the
community,
because
I
am
about
recovery.
I
think
that's!
We
shouldn't
ask
them
to
do
more.
C
If
we're
going
to
give
up
on
them
and
I,
don't
want
to
give
up
on
them
and
and
because
there's
there
there's
no
sense
in
that,
and
so
that
young
ladies
told
our
story
and
I
got
up
from
there
and
I
said,
and
I
got
to
do
this
in
Owensboro
and
so
I
got
hooked
up
with
the
chief
over
here
and
next
thing.
I
know
we're
rolling
and,
and
she
talked
about
the
funding
for
our
our
home
in
Owensboro
and
I'm
pledging
our
opioid
settlement
money.
If
it
ever
comes
down
the
pipe.
C
It's
some
point
in
time
and
I'm
trying
to
get
the
Davis
County
official
court
to
do
the
same
thing,
because
there's
just
a
and
these
slides
are
really
nice,
but
until
you've
been
there
like
representative
Banner
Ben,
you
really
can't
get
the
feel
of.
What's
going
on
in
that
building,
it's
it's!
It's!
C
You
know
so
I
got
addicted
to
morphine
and
I,
had
it
every
three
hours
24
hours
a
day
for
27
straight
days
and
back
then
the
doctor
came
in
about
midnight
when
I
was
screaming
for
another
shot
and
said
well,
you're,
not
hurting
anymore,
so
we're
going
to
give
you
any
more
morphine
and
so
took
the
Abbey
out
and
11
days
stay
awake.
Trying
to
get
off
it.
C
We
hadn't
there
wasn't
anything
else
in
1970.,
so
I
understand
how
difficult
it
is
once
you
get
trapped
in
that
nightmare
of
addiction,
and
so
anything
we
can
do
in
our
community
we're
more
than
happy
to
try
and
participate
in
and
we're
just
blessed
that
that
BOA
is
considered
having
a
place
in
our
town
and
and
we're
going
to
make
it
a
winner.
I
promise
you
so
thank
you
for
having
me
today.
F
So
the
theme
today,
there's
probably
several
but
certainly
Partnerships
and
collaboration.
Our
partnership
with
the
administrative
office
of
the
courts
is
really
important
to
us.
They
have
an
abundance
of
expertise,
they
have
a
commitment
to
Second
Chances
and
we
have
a
couple
of
unique
Partnerships
that
we
want
to
talk
about
with
you
today.
First
I
want
to
talk
about
the
recovery
courts.
The
recovery
courts
are
the
the
approach
for
women
who
are
engaged
in
the
child
welfare
system.
F
That
is
very
therapeutic
and
not
punitive
I
think
we
all
understand
the
model
of
drug
court.
Well,
if
drug
court
is
the
stick
approach,
the
stick
approach
with
services:
this
is
the
carrot
approach
with
Services,
because
what
we
do
in
family
recovery
court
is
we
work
with
moms
on
a
voluntary
and
dads
on
a
voluntary
basis
who
wish
to
have
some
additional
supports
available
to
them,
while
they're
going
through
the
family
court
process,
it
can
be
quite
overwhelming.
It
can
be
quite
daunting
and
oftentimes.
If
they're
also
dealing
with
substance
use
disorder.
F
They
have
multiple
expectations
placed
on
them,
so
they
essentially
get
a
coach.
Although
we
don't
call
that
person
a
coach,
but
that's
essentially
what
it
is-
a
recovery
coach
that
really
accompanies
these
parents
through
every
step
of
the
process
and
ensures
they
understand
what's
happening,
they
have
access
to
research
sources,
they're,
really
dealing
with
their
social
determinants
of
Health
to
ensure
that
they're,
stable
and
able
to
successfully
move
through
the
process
of
reunification
or
to
avoid
any
return
to
use.
So
our
immediate
goal
is
sobriety.
The
long-term
goal
is
family
reunification.
F
We
have
a
partnership
with
our
friends
at
seven
County
Services,
the
cmhc
and
based
in
Louisville
to
provide
services
within
the
Jefferson
County
family
recovery,
Court,
which
was
the
first
one
opened
in
support
from
the
National
Council
for
Jewish
women
that
did
a
court
Watch
program
in
Jefferson
County.
They
sat
for
many
many
hours
within
family
court
and
they
observed
some
Trends
and
often
these
were
families
affected
by
substance,
use
disorder
that
didn't
have
that
additional
layer
of
support,
so
they
provided
the
seed
Capital
to
begin
the
first
family
recovery
Court
in
Jefferson
County.
F
We
are
an
integrated
part
of
that
program.
We
do
joint
Staffing
of
all
of
the
families,
given
that
many
of
them
are
also
involved
in
our
freedom
House
program,
one
of
the
graduates
of
our
freedom
House
program,
who
is
also
a
graduate
of
the
family
recovery
Court
in
Jefferson
County,
is
someone
who
is
going
to
be
that
research
assistant
on
that
five-year
longitudinal
study
and
she
has
a
wonderful
story
of
how
she
was
able
to
resume
custody
and
stay
clean
and
sober
through
the
supports
offered
to
her.
F
Through
this
partnership,
we
then
were
able
to
open
a
second
family
recovery
Court
in
Clay
County.
This
is
through
a
Department
of
Justice
Grant.
One
of
the
things
that
we
take
very
seriously
is
anytime.
We
get
funding,
we
go
and
look
to
see
how
we
can
leverage
that
with
other
sources,
we
write
a
lot
of
Grants,
so
we
were
able
to
secure
a
Federal
grant
to
open
the
Clay
County
project
and
that
happened
in
2021.
Since
that
time,
we've
provided
services
to
34
adults
with
65
children
and
within
six
months
of
entering
the
program.
F
Also
this
year,
because
of
the
support
offered
through
you
and
your
colleagues,
we
were
able
to
get
State
funding
to
open
a
family
recovery
Court
in
Lincoln
County,
so
we'll
be
working
with
judges,
venters
and
van
over
there
to
launch
that
project.
In
fact
we're
starting
right
now
we're
staffed
up.
We
have
space
we're
beginning
to
establish
that
process
of
referral,
and
then
we
recently
received
a
grant.
F
You
probably
wouldn't
imagine
that
that's
a
judge
he's
not
wearing
his
robe
and
he's
sitting
next
to
one
of
our
participants
who
is
celebrating
a
special
Milestone.
That's
her
one
year,
sobriety
anniversary
and
I
love
this
Photograph,
because
it
shows
that
judge
Harris
is
really
her
colleague
and
her
supporter
and
her
cheerleader
they're
sitting
side
by
side.
F
He
wants
her
to
succeed,
and
so
this
project
and
what
is
so
unique
about
family
recovery
court-
is
that
the
role
of
the
judge
really
shifts
into
the
role
of
a
cheerleader
and
a
coach
and
a
counselor
and
a
mentor.
That
relationship
is
very
different
than
in
a
traditional
setting
and
judge
Harris.
Does
it
so
beautifully
so
judge
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you?
Now
we
had
a
recent
Milestone
graduation.
We
had
three
of
our
graduates
from
your
court
that
were
able
to
celebrate
completion
of
our
program
after
nearly
a
year.
I
Are
you
all
there
I'm
in
Manchester
today,
I'm
sorry,
I
couldn't
be
there
in
person,
I'm
I
had
court
this
morning,
I've
got
more
Court
coming
up,
I
just
like
to
go
ahead
and
and
if
the
committee
has
any
questions
of
course,
I'd
I'd
be
glad
to
entertain
them.
But
what
you
see
from
these
slides
is
is
a
really
nice.
I
Looking
older
man
with
a
bunch
of
young
girls
and
I
can
tell
you
that
if
you
would
have
seen
these
young
ladies,
when
they
first
entered
our
program,
you
would
not
have
recognized
them
that,
as
being
the
same
people
who
are
on
the
slides,
I'm
looking
at
the
life
slide
right
now
with
with
Ruby
and
Vic
and
and
Destiny
destiny.
Is
the
young
lady
in
the
striped
shirt,
with
between
the
the
two
coordinators
and
and
the
dark,
hard
girls.
I
She
now
is
an
employee
of
the
OA
working
as
a
counselor
she's,
a
certified
counselor
she's
working
on
a
college
degree
in
social
work
and
she
had
been
in
and
out
of
rehabs
bounced
around
and
never
took
it
serious
and
when
she
landed
at
Freedom
House
in
about
about
two
weeks.
I
I
When
judge
bar
happened
to
call
me
and
Destiny
happened
to
be
on
the
thing
and
I
said:
Destiny
tell
her
about
yourself
and
when
she
got
done
I
said
I
said
now:
do
you
think
you
need
recovery,
court
and
VOA
in
Elizabethtown,
judge
Blair
and
she
said
yep
we
do
and
but
we
the
thing
that
I've
learned
and
I'm
a
career
prosecutor,
I
was
assistant.
County
attorney
for
29
years
worked
in
criminal
court
and
juvenile
court
I'm
I'm,
probably
the
least
likely
guy
to
worry
about
recovery,
because
I
was
a
punishment.
I
Guy
I
I
assumed
that
if
you
punish
somebody
enough,
they
would
quit
whatever
they
was
doing.
Obviously,
I
was
wrong
and
what
I've
learned
in
this
last
year
and
a
half
working
with
Recovery
Corp
is
that
that
these
people
have
a
lot
deeper
issues
than
you
can
ever.
Imagine
you
don't
know
their
life
until
you
get
to
know
their
life
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
young
lady
standing
in
front
of
me
in
the
last
slide
she's
my
daughter's
age.
I
They
went
to
school
together,
they
were
buddies
and
and
when,
when
she
came
into
court
the
first
day-
and
we
asked
her
about
recovery
report,
she
literally
took
off
running
out
of
the
courtroom
and-
and
our
team
chased
her
down
and
convinced
her-
that
we
really
was
not
trying
to
do
something
to
her.
We
were
trying
to
do
something
for
her
she's
she's
graduated
she's
working
at
a
job.
She
never
had
a
job
before
she
has
her
child
and
and
she's
a
mama
bear.
I
If
you,
if
you
look
cross-eyed
her
child,
it
would
be
really
really
bad.
She's,
she's
she's,
a
great
kid,
the
young
lady.
Next
to
her
the
blonde
girl
with
the
striped
shirt,
she
has
four
kids.
One
of
his
name
is
Butters
and
I
asked
her
if
she
named
him
after
the
kid
on
South
Park,
but
she
never
did
answer
that
because
I
don't
think
she
knew
what
sound
part
was,
but
she
struggled
for
a
long
time,
but
she,
the
biggest
change
we
saw
in
her
Jennifer
and
I,
know.
I've,
never
told
you.
I
This
is
that
she
stood
up
and
spoke
at
at
recovery,
Court
graduation
and
we
never
could
get
her
to
barely
do
more
than
tell
us
her
name
and
she
came
out
of
Rochelle
she's
she's.
Looking
at
the
employment
she's
got
four
kids:
they
live
by
theirself,
they
live
in
their
own
houses,
they
go
to
school
and
she
handles
it
all.
By
herself
she
came
out
very
abusive
substance
abuse
relationship,
so
we're
seeing
things
here
that
that
I
never
really
thought
we
would
ever
see.
I
I'll
be
honest.
I
When
Jennifer
came
two
years
ago,
they
started
throwing
me
this
routine
about
what
all
is
going
to
do
and
she'll
tell
you
that
my
answer
was
I.
Don't
know
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
I'm
willing
to
try
if
you're,
if
you're,
willing
to
take
the
chainsaws
and-
and
that
was
all
I
could
say-
was
that
I'm
willing
to
try?
If,
if
you,
if
you'll,
let
us
and
and
we
did
and
and
we're
rocking
rolling
down
here,
we
need
more.
We
need
more
assets
to
work
with.
I
We
have
a
terrible
problem
with
transportation
and
housing
down
in
this
part
of
the
state,
the
jobs.
Ironically,
we
have
a
factory
in
London
Kentucky,
who
brings
a
bus
every
morning
now
and
and
we'll
offer
them
transportation
to
work.
So
they
can
go
work.
The
the
the
factory
is
very
flexible.
If
they
have
recovery
Court,
they
they
allow
them
to
be
off.
I
In
order
to
go
to
recovery,
Court
one
young
lady.
She
goes
to
work
at
nine
and
gets
off
at
2
30,
so
she
can
be
home
to
get
her
kid
off
the
daycare
bus
and
then
she
can
get
him
there
in
the
morning.
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
participation
by
the
by
the
local
Partners,
trying
to
help
us
trying
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
really
going
to
work
and
and
I
mean
it's
really.
It's
picking
up
what
you
know.
I
I
And
I'll
host
because
Jennifer
knows
if
I
get
started,
I,
don't
ever
hooks
I
just
keep
going
so
I'll
close
to
you.
If
I
got
anything,
they
want
to
ask
I'll
be
happy
to
entertain
them.
Sometimes.
F
We
love
judge
Harris,
as
you
can
see
why
he
has
been
right
there
with
us
every
step
of
the
way.
I
remember
one
of
our
first
meetings,
judge,
I,
hope,
you'll,
remember
this
too.
We
were
talking
about
just
the
language
and
how
important
language
is
and
really
framing
thing
in
a
more
positive
solution-focused
way,
rather
than
a
negative
or
punitive
way,
and
we
were
talking
about
how
we
would
hold
participants
accountable,
should
they
not
follow
through
or
have
a
setback,
and
instead
of
calling
it
consequences,
we
were
calling
it
learning
experiences
and
I.
F
Remember:
judge
going
now
Jennifer.
What
do
you
want
me
to
call
it
learning
experiences
and
I'm?
Like
yes
judge,
and
he
goes,
are
you
trying
to
make
me
a
social
worker
and
I
said?
Well,
maybe-
and
he
said,
I'll
try
anything
and
so
I
just
love
his
willingness
to
partner
with
us.
We've
learned
a
lot
from
him.
He
knows
these
families
intimately.
Well
you
you
know
that
he
does.
You
can
hear
his
passion.
You
can
hear
his
understanding
that
often
this
is
an
intergenerational
cycle
that
we're
seeking
to
disrupt.
F
So
we
are
very
active
and
engage
with
participants.
We
have
daily
contact
with
them
when
they
first
come
into
the
program
and
we
will
chase
you
down
literally
and
figuratively
in
a
supportive
way
to
say
we
want
to
help
you,
you
don't
have
to
be
fearful.
If
you
come
in
and
receive
the
support,
you
can
do
amazing
things
Destiny's
such
a
beautiful
example.
All
three
of
these
young
women
are
and
we're
just
now
getting
started.
F
The
evaluator
that's
embedded
in
this
project
is
the
same
evaluator
in
the
Jefferson
County
project
through
the
University
of
Louisville,
and
that's
really
important,
because
we
want
to
have
high
fidelity
to
this
model
as
it
gets
replicated
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
friend
and
colleague,
Rachel
Bingham.
So.
K
Special
thank
you
to
the
co-chairs
and
to
the
committee
for
having
us,
but
in
particular
special
thank
you
to
Jennifer
for
bringing
together
everybody
I.
Think,
representative
Mead,
it's
a
it's
an
excellent
point.
She
is
very
much
the
Joiner
of
people,
so
we
are
pleased
to
to
be
involved
to
participate,
judge
Harris
if
those
pictures
end
up
at
the
Circuit,
Court,
College
I'm,
just
saying
to
be
shared
with
everybody.
Great
definitely
great
experiences
happening
for
you.
K
We
I
was
asked
to
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
of
a
history
just
to
be
able
to
give
a
little
bit
of
background,
because
we
did
have
family
what
we
call
drug
courts
before
2010
and
it
definitely
ages
me
because
we
implemented
that
program
across
the
state.
When
we
had
the
budgetary
in
In
Pockets,
we
had
four
Pilots
when
we
had
the
budgetary
crisis.
K
Those
were
the
programs
that
actually
got
dissolved,
and
so
the
AOC
had
historically
felt
like
if
there
was
an
ability
for
the
structure
to
be
set
up,
where
you
have
the
judicial
role
with
a
specialized
docket,
and
then
you
have
dcbs
with
their
case
managers
and
their
their
social
workers,
and
then
you
have
treatment
in
its
capacity,
then
AOC
didn't
necessarily
have
to
play
a
case
management
role,
which
is
what
we
played.
So
this
particular
model
that
VOA
has
established
has
really
accomplished
what
we
didn't
feel
like.
K
We
were
able
to
do
back
in
2010
or
before
that
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense.
It
definitely
makes
more
sense
when
it
comes
to
not
misusing
really
resources.
So
you
don't
have
that
duplication
of
services.
You
don't
have
a
whole
bunch
of
people
involved
in
the
system.
So
I
want
to
mention
that,
because
I
think
it's
important
that
you
know,
we've
moved
into
sort
of
a
new
time.
A
lot
of
people
say:
why
is
an
AOC
still
involved,
because
there
really
isn't.
You
know
a
purposeful
defined
role.
K
There
are
case
managers,
they
are
in
place
and
they're
being
utilized
in
a
much
more
effective,
efficient
way.
We
have
seen,
obviously-
and
you
all
have
heard
this
historically
the
interest
in
the
increase
in
the
model
and
making
sure
that
it
moved
from
more
of
a
strength
based
model
than
it
was
more
of
a
punitive
and
it
even
though
it
was
not
as
punitive
as
potentially
the
the
past
drug
court
models
were.
It
still
was
in
function
punitive.
K
You
know
type
of
model
and
are
still
engaged
in
the
conversation
overall,
in
fact,
we're
all
going
to
sit
down
in
a
couple
weeks
with
everybody
and
say:
okay,
who
functions
where
in
this
space,
how
can
we
support
each
other?
Where
can
we
build
some
bridges,
so
this
map
kind
of
gives
to
you
just
a
lay
of
the
land
across
the
state.
We
have
eight
judges
in
four
jurisdictions
that
are
implementing
a
family
treatment.
Court
model
we've
got
what
was
it
four
more
jurisdictions
that
are
interested
in
actually
implementing
a
model.
K
We've
got
three
jurisdictions
that
are
now,
as
you
guys
have
just
heard,
received
the
funding
to
be
able
to
get
something
going
when
a
grant
comes
across
someone's
desk.
Everyone
starts
to
share
and
figure
out
how
we
can
make
those
bridges
happen
and
really
be
able
to
do
that.
The
grant
that
that
Jennifer
mentioned
the
most
recent
one
actually
gives
the
ability
to
just
for
AOC
to
just
be
a
pass-through
or
just
a
pass-through
fund.
That
then
goes
to
VOA
great
partnership,
a
good
way
to
sort
of
bridge.
K
What
are
some
of
the
pieces
is
that
we
want
to
make
sure
are
happening.
Another
structural
piece,
just
to
sort
of
keep
in
mind,
is
that
the
Supreme
Court
has
been
working
for
the
last
almost
two
years
on
their
administrative
procedures
for
specialty
courts,
and
so
they
have
done
a
lot
of
work
around
drug
courts
and
just
recently
released
our
new
administrative
procedures.
We
are
now
moving
into
the
space
of
veterans,
courts,
mental
health
courts
and
family
treatment
courts
to
be
able
to
have
those
pieces
in
place
from
the
Court's
perspective.
K
To
say
these
are
basically
best
practice
standards
that
we
feel,
like
you
know,
really
support,
what's
happening
boots
on
the
ground.
The
judges
are
involved
in
that
development
of
those
administrative
procedures
go
to
the
next
slide
and
the
final
piece
we
just
wanted
to
touch
on,
and
we
have
some
Representatives
representative,
Mead,
Senator,
Adams
and
Senator
Westerfield
are
all
a
part
of
our
judicial
commission
on
Mental
Health
that
has
recently
been
established.
Our
our
Justice
Lambert
is
taking
the
lead
and
chairing
that
particular
commission.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
happening
in
this
space.
K
A
lot
of
activity.
We've
got
72,
multi-disciplinary,
Representatives
that
sit
on
this
commission.
We
have
already
begun
committee
work
and
out
of
those
committees
are
multiple
work
groups
that
are
going
to
really
start
to
grow
and
expand.
So
we're
really
excited
about
how
the
work
that
VOA
is
doing
is,
then,
you
know
able
to
become
a
component
and
a
part
of
our
work
in
in
our
Partnerships
and
our
collaborations,
and
are
going
to
really
feed
the
information
around
the
commission
and
then,
where
else
we
can
all
go
together
and
really
be
able
to.
K
You
know:
do
what
is
intentionally
and
passionate
about
all
of
us
and
that's
to
address
substance,
use
disorder,
mental
health
disorders,
developmental
delays,
all
the
pieces
that
we
are
seeing
across
the
court
system.
The
Court's
goal
is
is
to
more
and
more
move
to
a
system
of
care
approach.
Any
door
you
enter
can
we
do
something
to
be
able
to
give
some
sort
of
warm
handoff
to
what
your
needs
are.
Based
upon
the
availability
of
that
service
of
support
always
keeping
in
mind.
K
You
know
our
role
is
around
Justice
and
and
how
we
need
to
fulfill
that
that
core
requirement,
so
I've
had
open
for
any
questions
from
the
Court's
perspective
to
anybody.
Otherwise
turn
it
back
over
to
Jennifer.
D
F
The
way
that
we
partner
with
Lori
and
Rachel
and
AOC
is
through
the
delivery
of
restorative
justice
services.
This
is
a
partnership
that
goes
back
now
more
than
12
or
14
years.
It
was
first
started
in
Jefferson
County
Judge,
Angela
bissick
was
someone
that
brought
this
information
into
Kentucky
and
said.
We
need
to
provide
these
more
rehabilitative
services
to
youth
who
are
offenders,
because
she
went
and
learned
about
this
model
and
knew
that
this
could
reduce
crime,
and
this
could
improve
outcomes
for
both
the
victim,
the
offender
and
the
community.
F
So
in
2020,
Volunteers
of
America
acquired
what
was
known
as
restorative
justice
of
Louisville
judge.
Bisig
now
sits
on
our
board
of
directors
along
with
another
member
of
the
rjl
board.
At
that
time,
Abby
green,
who
now
also
serves
voas
board
and
Libby
Mills,
who
had
spent
her
career
in
the
Department
of
Juvenile
Justice,
who
was
the
executive
director
of
rjl,
came
to
be
part
of
the
VOA
team
and
now
leads
a
division
of
our
organization
called
VOA
justice.
F
F
We
ensure
that
the
victim
is
ready
to
face
the
person
that
harmed
them,
and
then
we
meet
with
the
person
who's
done
the
harm,
and
we
make
sure
that
that
person
is
ready
to
accept
full
responsibility
for
what
has
occurred,
and
we
really
pick
apart
the
onion
to
understand
what
is
at
the
root.
You
typically
don't
wake
up
and
look
forward
to
committing
crime
or
harming
people.
So
we
look
at
root
cause
factors,
because
we
have
an
organization
that
includes
Behavioral,
Health,
Services
and
housing.
F
We
can
really
wrap
additional
supports
around
these
families,
while
the
youth
is
being
held
accountable
and
the
accountability
looks
like
this.
It's
kind
of
old
school,
Mama's
Justice,
where,
when
you
harm
someone,
you
face
the
person
that
you've
harmed
you
here,
the
impact
that
you've
had
on
them.
You
take
full
responsibility
and
then,
together
our
trained
facilitators.
They
help
those
two
parties
develop
a
customized
plan
for
what
amends
looks
like
what
is
the
plan
of
restoration
not
just
to
the
person
who's
been
harmed
but
to
that
person's
Community?
F
Because
when
one
of
us
experience
crime
it
reduces
all
of
our
sense
of
safety
and
well-being,
so
that
youth
is
held
accountable
to
walking
through
that
plan
and
when
they
complete
that
plan,
the
judge
is
notified.
Oftentimes
the
charges
are
dismissed
and
they're
able
to
move
forward
without
the
stigma
and
the
label
of
being
in
the
system.
So
we
want
to
continue
to
do
this
model
throughout
the
Commonwealth,
but
to
get
us
started
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
pilot
project
in
southeast
Kentucky
and
our
research
partner
is
EKU
there.
F
We
are
in
eight
Southeast
Kentucky
counties
we're
working
both
in
district
and
circuit
courts,
we're
working
in
schools
and
one
of
the
thing
things
that
we
love
about
this
model.
Is
that
not
only
does
it
reduce
crime
and
it
reduces
recidivism,
it
helps
victims
heal
because,
unlike
traditional
Justice,
the
victim
actually
gets
to
sit
and
the
in
the
driver's
seat,
not
the
passenger
seat,
to
determine
what
Justice
Means
to
them.
So
it's
very
empowering
it's
very
therapeutic.
We
measure
results
on
behalf
of
the
victim's
perspective.
F
F
So
I
mentioned
that
we
have
expanded
into
Southeast
Kentucky
we're
currently
talking
to
a
couple
of
other
counties
that
have
approached
us,
Clark
and
Madison
about
doing
this
work
within
their
school
system
and
then
I'm
delighted
to
share
with
the
full
committee
and
had
an
opportunity
to
share
with
Senator
Westerfield
before
we
got
started,
we
were
recently
awarded
some
funding.
F
That's
enabling
us
to
go
into
Christian
County,
so
we'll
be
hiring
a
restorative
justice
resolutions,
conflict
resolution
specialist
there
establishing
an
office
there
and
beginning
this
important
work
and
partnership
with
him
and
others
in
the
community,
and
we
can't
wait
to
get
to
do
that.
We're
very
excited!
F
What's
that
see
it?
Yes,
yes,
every
time
we
talk,
Senator
Westerfield
challenges
us
to
keep
moving
that
direction,
and
so
we're
finally
going
to
do
that
and
like
the
story
in
other
parts
of
Kentucky,
once
we
get
a
stake
in
the
ground,
then
we
use
that
as
leverage
to
start
looking
at
those
other
assets
that
we
need
to
bring
into
community.
F
We
can
get
in
there
and
teach
this
model
and
help
resolve
problems
before
they
escalate.
I
recently
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
school
safety
Marshal
Ben
Wilcox
I'm
excited
that
he's
invited
us
to
start
providing
training
to
the
SRO.
So
that's
an
additional
way
that
we
can
apply
this
model,
giving
them
an
additional
tool
in
their
tool
belt
so
that
they
can
use
this
as
a
first
line
of
defense
when
they
start
seeing
those
Troublesome
behaviors
begin
to
emerge.
B
F
I
will
share
with
you
what
judge
Angela
bissick
taught
me
when
we
first
started
having
this
conversation,
Senator
Berg,
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
from
a
messaging
standpoint.
I
have
law
enforcement
in
my
family
and
they
they
immediately
heard
the
words
restorative
justice
and
they
had
some
off-color
things
to
say.
But
the
appropriate
thing
in
this
setting
was
soft
on
crime
and
what
I?
What
I
heard
from
her
is
that
she
said
I
do
not
get
elected
and
re-elected
by
being
soft
on
crime.
F
She
said
people,
don't
stop
me
at
the
grocery
store
and
say
judge.
Thank
you
for
being
compassionate
today.
She
said,
but
what
I
know
is
being
tough
on
crime
means
you're
reducing
crime,
and
so
this
is
a
very
smart
approach,
because
we
all
want
a
reduction
in
recidivism
and
the
data
tells
the
story.
F
This
is
not
an
either
or
oftentimes
it's
a
both,
and
but
we
know
by
having
this
therapeutic
rehabilitative
approach,
where
they're
they're
really
required
to
face
I
mean
that's,
there's
some
Intimacy
in
having
to
face
the
person
you've
harmed,
unlike
in
a
traditional
approach
where
you
face
strangers
right,
it's
this
very
sterilized
process.
This
brings
Humanity
into
the
process
for
all
parties.
B
You
for
an
excellent
brief
way
to
respond
to
that,
because
you're
right,
but
it's
very
hard,
sometimes
to
convince
people
that
look
at
the
outcomes.
Look
at
the
outcomes
you
know.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
J
J
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
Bridges
to
life,
and
so
it's
a
program
for
people
that
are
incarcerated,
and
so
it
was
actually
introduced
in
Texas
and
it's
actually
been
implemented
in
seven
16
States
and
seven
countries
and
66
000
people
have
gone
through
this
program
and
they've
been
able
to
demonstrate
a
62
percent
reduction
in
recidivism.
J
So
it's
very
similar
to
what
you're
talking
about
where
the
offender
meets
the
victim
and
actually
takes
responsibility
for
their
actions,
regardless
of
what
has
transpired
to
them
prior
to
them,
committing
them
their
crime
because,
frequently,
as
you've
said,
there's
a
generation
of
abuse
or
substance
abuse,
experience
or
physical
abuse.
Regardless
of
that,
they
still
have
to
accept
responsibility
for
their
own
actions
and
I
love.
This
program
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
bringing
this
and
I
would
like
to
see
this
moving
across
the
state,
not
just
in
One
Direction
but
everywhere.
F
F
So
I
I
mentioned
that
we've
had
many
referrals
from
the
cabinet.
Traditionally,
the
approach
has
been
this
substance.
Use
disorder
is
identified
as
a
Factor
regarding
the
removal
of
a
child.
The
child
gets
removed,
mom
gets
referred
to
treatment.
Mom
rarely
goes
directly
to
treatment
right
because
now
we've
taken
from
her.
What
is
sometimes
the
last
motivating
factor
that
has
kept
her
as
functional
as
she's
been
able
to
be
so
often
her
disease
accelerates,
and
then
we
find
her
because
she
has
been
incarcerated.
She's
been
hospitalized
because
of
Overdose.
F
Some
other
bad
event
has
occurred.
That
has
endangered
her
and
that's
how
we
get
the
referral.
So
now
we
get
the
referral
we
get
mom
into
treatment
and
now,
as
we
stabilize
her
and
get
her
ready
to
start
imagining
again
herself
as
a
parent,
we're
working
with
a
system
and
often
children
who
are
in
different
counties
and
we're
charged
with
going
through
that
process
of
reunification
extremely
difficult
scenario.
But
that's
been
the
scenario
that
we've
been
working
with
then
and
I.
Think
dcbs
and
VOA
together
recognize
again.
F
We
there
could
be
a
different
relationship
here,
so
we
have
established
a
partnership
called
the
family
connections
program
and
this
is
a
multi-year
pilot
project.
So
we
want
to
test
the
theory
measure
the
theory
report
back
to
you,
the
outcomes
to
determine
is
this
a
model
that
should
be
taken
to
scale
in
Three,
Counties,
clay,
Hardin
and
Lincoln.
We
are
integrating
a
VOA
therapist
with
expertise
and
substance
use
disorder
into
that
dcbs
office
and
the
goal
is
to
accomplish
two
things:
one
to
start
educating
and
changing
the
mindset
of
that
Frontline
worker.
F
Now
this
is
no
criticism
of
any
individual
or
even
the
system
itself.
It's
actually
designed
this
way,
where
there's
a
ton
of
volatility
and
turnover.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
Frontline
workers
who
are
new,
trying
to
learn
this
highly
complicated,
very
high
risk
role
or
they're,
trying
to
assess
safety
and
understand
how
to
effectively
intervene
with
these
families.
Well,
what
happens
if
they
have
a
partner
that
has
all
of
the
experience
around
substance
use
disorder
that
can
help
start
destigmatizing.
These
issues,
incentivizing
mom,
to
seek
treatment
immediately
and
oftentimes.
F
The
incentive
is
that
she
gets
to
keep
her
kids
with
her.
So
how
do
we
create
a
fast
pass
to
get
her
into
a
treatment
environment
like
Freedom
House?
So
this
person
is
in
that
office
again
to
provide
education
and
technical
assistance
and
training,
but
also
to
co-assess
and
get
Mom
a
referral
on
demand
immediately
into
treatment,
which
is
another
reason,
as
we
think
about
the
unmet
need
to
regionalize
this
model.
We've
had
women
in
Eastern
Kentucky
that
we
didn't
have
a
bed
in
Clay
County.
We
brought
them
to
Jefferson
County,
that's
okay!
F
That
is
not
a
great
practice
right.
We
want
her
in
her
community
as
long
as
that's
safe
for
her,
so
that
we
can
think
about
long-term
housing
and
education
opportunities
and
Workforce
opportunities.
We
don't
want
to
isolate
her
within
a
treatment
environment
where
we
can't
look
at
all
of
those
other
important
long-term
factors
for
recovery.
F
This
is
an
integrated
model
where
we
do
co-staffing
of
families.
We
identify
together
as
a
team,
the
best
interventions,
the
best
plans
for
them,
we'll
attend
court
meetings,
it's
very
coordinated
so
that
Mom
doesn't
have
two
different
plans.
Certainly
we
don't
want
two
competing
plans.
We
want
one
integrated
plan.
F
We
could
have
no
better
partner
on
the
ground
with
us
than
the
person
that
you
saw
in
that.
First
photograph
of
this
part
of
this
presentation,
Mayor
Miller,
has
some
unique
perspectives
based
on
not
only
his
current
role,
and
you
heard
me
say
like
with
mayor
Watson,
it's
really
important
that
we're
integrated
into
the
city
leadership,
but
he
also
has
a
former
hat
that
he
has
worn
as
a
leader
within
the
dcbs
and
so
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
now
mayor.
Thank.
L
You
Jeff
committee,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
today.
Sorry
I
read
the
sign
and
still
didn't
push
it
yep,
my
background's,
pretty
unique.
I
came
from
a
family,
that's
full
of
substance
abuse,
one
of
nine
children
that
went
to
that
graduated
high
school
that
got
a
college
degree
went
into
Social.
Work
worked
for
the
cabinet
from
96
until
20
19.
L
and
a
lot
of
success
stories,
but
a
lot
of
heartbreaking
stories,
because
when
the
cabinet
does
not
have
the
workforce,
it's
it
needs
or
the
Partnerships.
In
a
rural
County
like
Lincoln
in
a
small
town
like
Stanford.
In
order
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
clients,
we
have
to
travel
to
Louisville
or
we
have
to
travel
to
Harlan,
County
or
Clay
County,
and
we
have
to
see
all
these
people
every
month
and
we
try
to
reunify
them
with
their
children.
L
L
She
always
believed
everything
that
I
told
her
the
young
lady
on
the
left,
and
she
always
believed
everything
I
told
her
that
if
you
do,
this,
I
will
see
that
you
get
your
kids
back.
It
was
a
hard-fought
battle,
but
she
gave
her
testimony
at
a
public
meeting
in
Stanford
and
she
was
successful.
She
wanted
to
leave.
She
wanted
to
leave
the
program
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
I'm
sort
of
like
the
judge
when
I
first
started.
I
was
more
about
the
punishment.
L
L
L
She
was
a
sex
success
story
because
she
drove
herself.
She
wanted
her
children
back
and
she
had
a
supportive
family.
She
had
the
children's
father,
who
was
supportive
and
something
you
never
see
in
a
case
you're,
never
going
to
have
supported
family
and
a
spouse
and
a
mother-in-law
that
was
willing
to
care
for
the
children.
While
both
parents
got
help,
it
is
something
that's
very
unique
and
I
think
that's
part
of
why
she
was
successful.
L
Now.
What
I'm
wanting
to
see
with
dcbs
and
VOA
is
something
that
I
always
wanted.
I
wanted
that
expert
right
there,
two
doors
down
that
I
can
go.
Look
look
at
this
case.
What
can
we
do
and
by
having
them
in
the
dcbs
office?
I?
Think
is
one
of
the
greatest
things
ever
for
dcbs,
because
we
know
dcbs
is
like
police
officers.
L
Do
I
want
to
answer
that
question
and
I
said
yes,
ma'am,
she
said,
can
I
come
see
you
and
this
lady
brought
three
beautiful
children
in
with
her
and
I
didn't
recognize
her
because
she
was
three
months
old
when
she
tested
positive
for
cocaine
and
I
removed
her
from
her
mother
and
her
mother
to
this
day
is
still
an
addiction,
because
at
the
time
we
had
nothing
in
place
in
the
March
of
1997
to
help
a
parent.
It
was
about
protecting
the
children.
L
That
was
my
job
and
that's
what
I
was
going
to
do
and
to
this
day
that
mother
still
struggles
with
substance
abuse,
but
this
young
lady
has
raised
she's,
raising
three
beautiful
children
and
has
never
used
drugs
in
her
life,
and
she
came
and
wanted
to
know
her
story.
So
I
had
to
sit
and
tell
it
to
her.
We
hugged
and
we
cried
before
she
left
City
Hall,
but
those
stories
will
be
more
likely
to
occur
with
this
partnership
and
to
speak
a
little
more
about
VOA
coming
to
Stanford
I
want
to
see
it
grow.
L
And
hopefully
the
legislature
will
be
able
to
fund
it
in
order
to
make
this
possible
to
keep
these
children
from
being
in
foster
care
or
the
rights
being
terminated,
because
we
all
understand
how
long
it
takes
for
some
people
to
get
off
drugs.
It's
a
long-term
process
and
I
just
want
to
thank
y'all
for
considering
this
in
the
future,
because
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
be
a
success
story.
L
I
know
it
and
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
plant
that
seed
for
y'all
to
be
considering
this
for
the
future,
to
something
that
we
can
fund
long-term.
To
make
sure
that
we
get
these
babies
reunited
with
their
parents
and
that
we
can
have
success
stories
in
dcbs,
which
sometimes
are
far
and
few
and
hard
to
find
representative
made,
as
you
know
so,
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
that.
F
Mayor
like
mayor
Watson,
Mayor,
Miller,
wear
several
hats
he's
a
great
friend
of
VOA.
He
referred
our
very
first
Stanford
employee
and
thank
you
for
that.
He's,
helping
us
staff
up,
and
you
know
some
of
the
metrics
that
we're
measuring
with
the
family
connections
program.
We
know
that
there
is
a
cost
avoidance
when
we
can
avoid
an
unnecessary
removal.
We
also
know
that
it's
a
family
preservation
model
when
we
keep
that
entire
family
together
and
move
them
directly
into
treatment.
F
Our
partnership
with
dcbs
is
so
important
and
when
you're
trying
to
change
and
transform
a
system,
it's
really
complicated,
and
so
we
talk
a
lot
about
change
management
at
the
leadership
levels
where
we're
talking
at
the
highest
levels
of
leadership
between
our
organizations,
as
well
as
those
front
line
workers
who
really
have
a
lot
of
influence
over
the
outcome
and
the
trajectory
of
that
particular
family's
Journey.
So
we're
excited
to
now
be
launching
this
partnership.
We
can't
wait
to
measure
it
and
I
agree
with
the
mayor.
F
I
think
it's
going
to
be
highly
successful
so
that
we
can
determine
how
we
can
take
this
to
scale.
So
as
we
wrap
up,
I
just
want
to
have
a
couple
of
closing
thoughts.
You've
heard
today
that
we
wish
to
be
an
excellent
provider
of
care.
Everything
that
we
do
at
VOA
is
around
measuring
results
to
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
most
excellent
care
available.
F
In
fact,
in
about
an
hour
we're
going
to
sit
down
with
70
members
of
our
organization
and
listen
to
the
Council
on
accreditation,
which
is
our
accrediting
body
who
have
been
in
our
Organization
for
the
last
three
days:
seven
reviewers
and
they're
going
to
give
us
the
results
of
our
very
rigorous
accreditation.
That's
an
example
where
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
meeting
and
exceeding
they
have
literally
one
thousand
and
three
standards
that
they
hold
us
to.
So
we're
going
to
get
to
hear
those
results
soon.
F
F
We
want
to
be
accountable
to
the
people
we
serve
and
that's
why
we
have
all
of
these
rigorous
studies
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
conducting
an
activity
to
feel
good,
but
we're
conducting
an
activity
that
hopefully
makes
us
feel
good,
because
it's
getting
the
right
results.
On
behalf
of
the
Commonwealth,
so
thank
you
chairman
and
members
I'm
happy
to
take
any
last
questions
from
you.
D
Jennifer
you
had
you
made
one
comment
there
in
your
presentation
during
recovery.
Court
did
you
said
in
in
one
area
that
you
helped
34
families.
Was
that
correct?
Yes,
so
we've
had
this
discussion
before
you
and
I
talked
when
you
came
to
me
about
supporting
some
of
these
programs.
I've
told
you
before
it
comes
down
to
really
return
on
investment.
For
me
and
there's
a
lot
of
times.
D
You
saved
right
there
in
just
one
County
and
but
more
importantly,
it's
34
families
that
you
held
together.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
return
on
investment.
In
your
programs-
and
so
we
again
I
just
say,
I
appreciate
what
you
do
and
there
are
other
programs
out
there.
There
are
other
organizations
out
there
that
do
similar
work
and
we
appreciate
them
as
well,
but
we
just
appreciate
all
you
all
do
in
your
heart
for
the
family
and
the
children
of
this
state
and
Mayor
Miller.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today.
D
You
were
my
hometown
mayor.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
and
it's
very
seldom.
Do
we
get
the
opportunity
to
chair
a
meeting
where
our
local
officials
get
to
come
in
and
talk
and
so
appreciate.
You
appreciate
your
heart
you're
one
of
the
hardest
work,
Invaders
I've,
seen
out
there
watering
flowers
and
helping
people
personally
at
their
home.
So
we
appreciate
you
as
well.
Thank
you,
but
I
will
say
that
this
is
the
last
meeting
of
this
committee
for
for
good.
D
Actually,
this
committee
has
been
in
effect
for
five
years
now.
The
general
assembly
passed
a
bill
that
decided
to
eliminate
this
committee
as
a
statutory
committee,
but
you
will
probably
see
this
committee
come
back
as
a
standing
committee,
which
will
give
us
more
emphasis
on
these
issues
and
more
focus
on
these
issues
during
the
session.
D
This
is
his
last
committee
meeting
that
he'll
have
with
us
and
and
he
will
be
going
home
to
bigger
and
brighter
things,
and
so
we
want
to
say
that
we
appreciate
you
and
I
know
your
heart
for
the
children,
the
families
of
this
state,
and
that's
why
you
came
to
me
and
asked
me
to
be
on
this
committee
when
we
passed
it.
So
we
appreciate
you
and
your
service
to
the
state.
Thank.