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D
A
Okay,
at
this
time,
we
do
not
have
a
quorum,
so
we
will
not
be
able
to
to
motion
on
the
on
the
minutes
from
the
August
17
2022
meeting
that
if
we
do
get
a
quorum,
we
will
do
that
when
that,
when
it
happens,
we
had
originally
planned
for
Eric
Kennedy
director
of
the
Kentucky
school
boards
Association
to
provide
this
committee
information
in
relation
to
school
board.
Employee
raises,
however,
a
r
chair,
Petrie
requested
that
testimony
be
shared
at
his
meeting
later
today.
Leaving
us
one
item
on
the
agenda.
E
Good
morning,
good
morning,
sir
sorry
good
morning,
Ben
Wilcox
state
school
security
marshal.
A
E
E
Thank
you,
chair,
Riley
and
members
of
the
committee
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
on
the
status
of
SRO
coverage
across
the
state
of
Kentucky.
When
I
talk
about
school
safety
or
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
school
safety,
I
tend
to
go
along
so
I've
written
all
my
information
down
and
will
be
following
it
very
closely.
E
House
Bill
63
was
passed
in
2022
session
and
introduces
new
Sr
requirements
for
school
districts.
The
new
law
requires
that
each
school
campus
have
SRO
by
August
1st
2022,
if
possible.
Hb63
also
requires
that
if
sufficient
funds
and
Personnel
aren't
available
to
fulfill
these
requirements,
local
Board
of
Education
self-fulfill
the
requirements
on
a
per
campus
basis.
This
has
to
be
approved
in
writing
by
the
state
school
security
marshal
House
Bill
63
also
grants.
E
Schools
have
three
choices
in
placing
sros
one
on
for
each
campus:
collaboration
with
local
law
enforcement
agencies
to
assign
an
officer
to
each
campus,
hiring
commission
pop
certified
police
officer
become
a
slio
or
start
a
school-based
police
agency
with
their
local
board
approval
I
understand
the
legislators
want
to
know
more
what
can
be
done
to
fill
any
gaps
for
schools.
E
Like
all
of
us,
I
know
his
safety
of
the
skilled,
the
school
children
is
a
priority
to
you
all,
just
like
it
is
for
our
group
I'm
happy
to
report
that
more
than
50
percent
of
the
school
campuses
are
covered
with
SRO,
as
defined
by
hb63,
since
hb63
was
signed
into
law
this
year.
That
represents
a
21
increase
in
sros
assigned
to
protect
Kentucky
schools
and
that's
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
E
This
results
in
basic
a
coverage
of
over
50
percent
of
sros
those
without
SRO
coverage.
Almost
all
school
districts
claimed
the
funding
and
lack
of
personnel
was
the
issue.
In
our
survey.
We
asked
each
district.
What
would
the
cost
to
cover
each
of
their
campuses
by
Capelli
by
compiling
all
of
their
responses?
The
office
of
the
school
state
school
security
marshal
found
that
the
total
estimated
cost
to
provide
an
SRO
to
every
campus,
not
covered
by
an
SRO
full-time
officer,
would
be
25
million
119
866
dollars.
E
Based
on
our
survey,
the
average
base
salary
of
a
SRO
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
and
this
with
without
benefits
just
base
salary
is
38
276
dollars
our
survey.
We
also
asked
each
district
whether
they
are
currently
paying
for
their
SRO
just
by
salary.
By
adding
up
all
of
these
amounts.
The
Office
of
the
State
School
security
marshal
found
the
total
salary
budget
for
currently
employed
sros
is
30
million
dollars,
171
475
dollars.
E
There
are
a
few
important
caveats
to
this.
Data
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
that
the
Office
of
the
State
School
security
marshal
does
not
set
salaries
for
sros.
Nor
do
we
direct
or
request
budgets
for
sros
each
girl
District
determines
their
own
budget.
This
includes
salary
for
potential
sros.
The
office
of
state
school
security
marshal
can
provide
the
average
salary
and
estimated
total
reported
cost
based
on
our
report.
But
again
we
don't
provide
any
budgetary
functions.
School
campuses
have
unique
needs
and
estimates
to
address
compliance
are
highly
specific.
E
F
Thank
Mr
chairman
a
question
on
your
25
million,
so
is
that
25
million
an
SRO
at
each
campus?
That
does
not
take
into
account
what
districts
are
currently
spending
on
sros.
E
F
Okay,
so
you
are
taking
into
account
districts
that
hire
their
own
sros
and
currently
have
staff
in
place.
Now
this
is
just
the
25
million
just
the
uncovered
area.
E
A
E
H
E
That
is
correct.
The
30
million
that
was
brought
up
is
just
the
base
salary-
that's
being
paid
for
right
now,
when
asking
what
it
would
take
to
get
an
officer
on
every
campus,
the
25
million
is
what
we
believe
in
talking
to
school.
Districts
would
be
the
salary
and
then
The
Upfront
cost,
which
would
be
if
they're
starting
their
own
Department
would
be
Cruisers
or
uniforms
weapons.
E
You
know
things
of
that
nature,
but
we
tried
to
kind
of
stick
close
to
what
this
actual
salaries
were
compared
to
what
it
would
be
and-
and
you
know,
there's
so
many
different
officers
that
are
being
hired
as
sros.
You
may
have
some
that
are
retired
and
don't
receive
the
same
benefits
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
H
Mr
chair
could
I
do
a
follow-up
question.
Please.
Yes,
sir:
in
the
30
million
salary
in
the
districts
that
have
sros
and
buildings,
did
you
all
have
any
information
about
districts
that
partner
with
local
law
enforcement
like
a
local
police
department,
a
local
sheriff's
department
who
paid
part
of
the
cost?
Yes,.
E
We
had
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you,
sir
I
apologize.
We
had
several
a
majority
of
the
officer,
the
schools
that
had
officers
that
are
from
another
agency
that
they're
partnering
with
we
had
a
very
mix
of
some
were
paying
all
some
were
paying
part,
and
then
we
had
some
agencies,
police
agencies
that
were
paying
for
all
of
it
on
their
own.
But
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers
on
that.
C
E
E
We
give
them
the
opportunity
to
answer
both
and
both
of
them
answered
are
all
the
districts
answered
both
so
just
in
talking
to
superintendents
we're
seeing
right
across
the
board
that,
even
if
they
do
have
the
money,
it
is
difficult
to
find
officers
right
now.
E
But
what
is
enlightening
on
it
is
we
were
able
to
get
a
20
increase,
which
is
what
I
did
not
expect
in
a
three-month
period
of
time.
But
that
is
what
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
is
finding
the
personnel.
A
G
A
Along
with
what
representative
mozinowski
said,
do
you
do
you
see
a
difference
in
hiring
sros
in
Metro
urban
areas,
as
opposed
to
rural
areas?
Is
there,
is
there
a
difference
in
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
E
As
for
the
Personnel
available
or
finding
Personnel
I
think
it's
across
the
board
we're
finding
that
the
urban
centers
are
having
just
as
much
trouble
as
the
rural
settings,
but
we're
also
finding
that
a
lot
of
retired
officers
and
officers
that
may
have
left
their
positions.
That
officers
are
coming
back
and
that's
kind
of
across
the
board
as
well
we're
finding
a
lot
of
very
rural
districts
and
superintendents.
E
A
E
I
think
so,
sir,
yes
and
you
know
the
average
salary
is
thirty,
eight
thousand
dollars
and
of
course,
that's
not
a
whole
lot
in
an
urban
area,
and
we
have
some
sros
that
are
making
a
lot
more
than
that,
and
we
have
some
sros
that
are
making
a
lot
less.
And
you
know
we
are.
We
have
had
districts
that
were
able
to
pull
sros
from
other
schools
just
because
their
ability
to
pay
more
or
offer
different
benefits
as
well.
D
E
You
know
in
to
have
a
the
mandated
SRO
or
school
resource
officer.
They
have
to
be
pop
certified,
which
means
trained
at
a
police
academy
and
they
have
to
start
the
120
hour
certification,
that's
set
forth
by
or
completed
by,
the
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training,
and
they
have
three
years
to
complete
that
certification.
E
So,
just
on
paper,
they're
looking
for
a
certified
police
officer,
that's
been
through
an
academy,
obviously,
on
the
other
side
of
it,
we're
looking
for
the
best
fit
for
that
school,
best
fit
for
the
district
and
in
an
officer
that
can
fulfill
what
we
would
call
the
Triad
in
SRO
and
that's
being
a
law
enforcement
officer,
but
also
being
a
mentor
and
also
being
a
have
good
relationship
with
the
students
and
I
think
that's
even
more
important.
When
you're
looking
for
hiring
an
SRO
position.
E
They
can
they
can
pay
what
they
want.
Again,
that's
just
the
average
salary
for
the
state
of
Kentucky,
so
some
more
and
and
some
less.
D
F
I,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
my
question
kind
of
dovetails
with
representative
Miller's,
so
speak
to.
Let's
say
we
come
back
in
you
know
our
next
budget
and
we
we
fund
25
million
additional
dollars
and
magically
there's
the
money
there
to
hire
these
new
sros
speak
a
little
bit
on
the
backlog
at
the
training
academies.
What
kind
of
what's
happening
there
and
and
what
kind
of
role
that's
going
to
play
in
getting
these
people
online?
Well,.
E
And
and
my
office
does
not
direct
deal
directly
deal
with
training
at
docjt.
I
can
only
speak
to
your
opinions.
Okay,
yes,
sir,
in
hiring.
If
we
did
we're
able
to
hire,
obviously
we
would
see
an
increase
in
our
training
for
in
service
for
the
SRO
training,
and
if
we
hired
several
retired
officers,
they
would
have
to
come
back
for
the
basic
officer
skills,
which
is
several
weeks,
I,
believe
it's
three
or
four
weeks
that
they
have
to
do
so.
E
E
I
think
we're
always
been
looking,
especially
on
the
SRO
side
of
it,
of
what
we
have
we'd
have
to
do
to
get
all
those
SRO
trained
and
that
I
can
speak
more
to
that,
and
you
know
we
have
several
ideas
of
you
know
putting
some
online
training
on
and
maybe
making
it
more
Regional
so
to
assist
with
the
backlog
and
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
now.
We
we
kind
of
know
that,
if
this
is
coming,
we're
going
to
have
to
make
arrangements
to
make
it
happen.
So.
F
So
when
you
say
classes
you're
speaking
of
your
classes,
are
you
are
you
also
speaking
of
classes
at
the
academies,
different
SRO
classes?
There?
Yes,.
F
E
G
G
And
and
I
certainly
don't
know
so
you
would.
The
current
SRO
process
is
more
for
or
has
been
more
for
police
officer
or
city
police
deputies.
E
State
police
has
their
their
own
their
own.
G
E
G
So
I'm,
seeing
that
I
guess
focused
toward
that
area.
Are
there
any
other
across
the
country
that
you
know
of
that,
has
trainings
very
specifically
more
for
sros
and
is
that
the
same
or
different
I
mean
I
can
see
some
common
ground,
but
at
the
same
time,
SRO
in
my
mind
would
be
a
little
different
than
others.
Police
training.
E
Absolutely
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
the
SRO
or
the
school
resource
officer
is,
is
a
very
specialized
unit.
I
mean
you:
we've
got
specialized
unit,
all
over
police
departments,
detectives
and
canine
units
and
SWAT
teams,
but
the
SRO
is
a
very,
very
specialized
unit.
I,
don't
really
know
a
lot
about
other
states.
E
I
do
know
that
Kentucky
has
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
and
longest
SRO
certifications
in
the
country,
we're
kind
of
reaching
out
right
now
and
looking
at
that,
so
by
law
it
has
to
be
a
Academy
trained
police
officer,
so
they've
already
received
that
training
either
from
doc,
JT
or
KSP,
or
some
other
Statewide
Academy
and
then
after
they
start
as
a
SRO.
They
have
three
years
to
complete
that
very
specialized
training,
that's
required
and
offered
at
docjt.
If
that
answers
your
question,
sir.
G
Yes,
sir,
can
I
follow
up
just
briefly
with
a
comment?
Yes
sure?
Yes,
it
does
I
really.
You
know
I
think
the
training
has
to
be
very
specific
for
a
school
setting
and
and
although
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
water
it
down
at
all,
but
at
the
same
time
I
want
to
make
sure
they
that
we're
continuously
looking
at
the
quality
of
the
training
and
more
opportunities
for
people
to
become
certified.
So
we
can
have
that
pull
of
sros
available.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
You
Mr
chair,
thank
you
Mr
Wilcox,
on
this
committee.
We
have
three
retired
high
school
principals.
Representative
Miller
represent
Banner
myself.
We
have
a
present
Elementary,
ECE
teacher
and
representative
bojanowski.
They
may
or
may
not
agree
with
me
on
this,
but
I
think
two
important
things
for
the
for
an
SRO.
You
mentioned
one
of
them
and
that
is
relationship
skills.
A
It's
very
important
that
that
person
have
the
skills
to
deal
with
the
age
group
that
he's
in
that
building
with,
and
it
takes
a
different
skill
to
deal
with
high
school
students
than
it
does
with
elementary
students.
It
takes
different
abilities.
Do
that
I
think
another
one
that
oftentimes
is
not
mentioned,
and
people
tiptoe
around
this
issue.
A
little
bit
is
the
physical
ability
to
do
the
job.
If
you
have
a
crisis
yeah,
because
you
need
someone,
obviously
they
can
physically
it's
physically
capable
of
of
handling.
E
Yes,
our
training,
the
120
hour
certification,
that's
beyond
the
Academy
training
is
physical
training.
It
involves
firing
ranges,
it
involves
rapid
deployment
or
active
shooter
training.
Those
are
all
things
that
are
very
physical
and
and
for
them
to
be
able
to
be
certified
in
that
position.
They'd
have
to
be
able
to
complete
that
particular
training.
E
I
think
that
that
really
a
lot
of
sros
if
they
come
back
from
another
job
or
retirement,
really
look
at
that
training
and
have
to
say
and
make
that
decision
you
know,
can
I
run
down.
The
hallway
can
I
you
know.
Neil
can
I
do
what's
necessary
for
the
job.
So
within
that
training,
it's
it's!
It's
very
physical.
I
F
E
Sro
on
a
campus,
we
have
57
districts
that
that
do
not
that
actually
have
all
the
sros
that
they
need.
That's
all
that
all
their
campuses
are
actually
covered,
but
there's
560
campuses
that
are
completely
covered
with
sros,
but
as
for
the
amount
of
districts,
we
have
57
that
do
not
need
any
sros
at
this
time,
but
117
that
do
have
campuses
that
need
sros.
E
Seemed
to
be
both
were
right
at
the
same.
Percentage
of
of
need
is
money
and
personnel.
I
E
Yes,
but
I,
don't
you
know
we
didn't
really.
H
E
That
is
actually
a
really
mixed
bag.
We
have
some
school
districts
that
will
work
with
a
Outside
Agency
and
that
Outside
Agency
will
provide
that
officer
for
basically
the
time
of
the
school
year,
they'll
provide
for
180
days
or
190
days,
depending
on
training.
E
We
have
some
outside
agencies
that
will
provide
the
officer
for
the
school
year
and
much
like
what
I
did
at
Montgomery
County
when
I
was
a
SRO
is
I
worked
12
12
months,
I
worked
during
the
school
year
in
the
schools
and
then
during
the
summer,
I
was
on
the
road,
so
it
just
depends
on
the
what's
been
worked
out
between
the
agencies.
H
Okay
and
I
need
to
get
back
with
my
Sheriff.
His
concern
was:
is
there
was
a
gap
in
their
contract
with
the
school
year
with
school,
starting
earlier,
maybe
going
late,
so
I'll
I'll
follow
up
with
him
on
that,
but
there's
nothing
that
would
prevent
a
law
enforcement
agency
for
Contracting
for
a
specific
amount
of
time.
There's.
I
C
I
did
have
a
question,
so
in
light
of
the
the
horrific
situation
in
Uvaldi,
my
question
is,
is
if
there's
a
single
armed
SRO
on
a
campus
and
there
is
an
armed
Intruder
who
comes
into
a
building?
Does
that
SRO?
Is
he
or
she
directed
to
engage
or
would
they
wait
for
backup.
E
The
the
training
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
has
always
been
directed
to
engage,
it's
always
been
to
travel
towards
the
gunfire.
We
train
a
single
officer
response.
We
also
train
a
double
officer
response
and
triple
officer
response,
but
whenever
the
shooting
starts,
we
train
to
go
directly
towards
that
shooting
because
we
know
statistically
that
if
a
someone
engages
with
a
shooter,
they
have
stopped
killing
civilians,
they
may
re-engage
with
the
officer,
that's
engaging
them
or
they
may
end
the
situation
themselves.
A
E
I'm
very
excited
this
is
the
second
year
that
we
put
out
our
actual
report
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
at
the
the
Marshall's
office
and
and
how
this
report
is
very
positive
for
the
state
of
Kentucky.
If
I
just
have
a
few
minutes
to
be
able
to
do
that,
if
that's
okay,
yes,
sir,
you
got
what
you
need.
Thank
you,
foreign,
just
as
a
reminder.
The
Office
of
the
State
School
security
marshal
is
housed
within
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training.
E
We
assess
facilities
on
all
Kentucky's
173
School
Districts,
for
compliance
with
the
school
safety
and
resiliency
act.
I
get
questions
a
lot
about
well,
there's
171
districts.
We
actually
do
assessments
on
the
Kentucky
school
for
the
deaf,
the
Kentucky
School
for
the
Blind,
and
we
also
do
assessments
on
model
Laboratory
Schools
as
well.
We've
also
added
50
Area
Technology
Centers
working
in
collaboration
with
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
to
continue
to
do
assessments
on
those
schools
as
well.
E
So
we've
added
schools
in
the
last
years
last
year
to
do
assessments
on
the
office
of
state
school
security
marshal
includes
15
compliance
officers
who
are
assigned
with
school
districts
across
the
Commonwealth
and
assess
compliance
together
with
school,
Leadership,
School
resource
officers,
school
safety
coordinators,
our
compliance
officers,
our
local
members
of
the
community
of
our
trusted
resource
and
vetted
to
create
a
stronger,
safer
place
for
children
to
learn
all
of
our
compliance
officers
are
Regional,
so
they
have
a
vested
interest
and
are
located
near
the
school.
E
Talking
about
our
SRO
training,
the
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training
provides
sros
with
120
hours
of
specialized
training,
in
addition
to
basic
law
enforcement
response
for
working
in
schools.
These
include
mental
health
awareness
classes,
skills
for
working
with
students
with
special
needs,
cultural
diversity
and
active
shooter
response
and
I
do
want
to
highlight
that
our
first
SRO
class
that
we
conducted
the
sro1
we
hadn't
written
sro2.
Yet
that's
the
second
stage
of
training
and
when
we
asked
our
officers
what
was
needed
we
wanted
to
put
in
what
we
needed
for
sro2.
E
We
thought
it
was
going
to
be
more
active,
shooter
response,
more
Firearms
by
and
large
everyone
all
the
officers
wanted,
more
Mental,
Health
Training,
and
so
that
has
been
really
focused
on
with
our
SRO
training
seems
like
we've
got
officers
that
really
know
what
they
are
doing
as
officers,
but
really
want
to
have
that
specialized
training
for
kids
and
that's
very,
very
important
to
us.
Of
course,
the
number
of
tragedies
presented
by
officers,
presence
and
positive
relationship
with
schools
cannot
be
Quantified.
E
Sro
provide
a
Triad
of
school
safety
plans,
include
Mental,
Health,
Providers
access
control
and
relationship
with
First
Responders.
Our
compliance
staff
are
always
available:
trained,
School
staff
on
risk
assessment
process,
School
Safety
and
Security
initiatives
and
current
trends
in
school
safety.
The
office
of
State
School
Security
Marsh
will
continue
to
work
with
every
school
in
the
district
to
assist
with
compliance
and
make
adjustments
as
funding
and
Personnel
become
available.
As
you
can
imagine
this
school
year
and
this
summer,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
training
school
districts.
E
E
99.53
percent
of
Kentucky
schools
are
compliant
with
the
school
safety
and
resiliency
act.
Access
Control
mandates,
that's
locking
of
doors,
that's
locking
them
doors
during
an
instructional
time.
That's
entrance
into
the
school
making
sure
our
Gatekeepers
are
vetting
people
before
they
come
in
and
we
have
a
99.53
percent
compliance
rate.
We
always
are
pushing
400
because
we
have
to
be
at
100,
but
that's
pretty
close
and
we're
very,
very
proud
of
our
teachers
and
our
staff.
E
For
that
we
have
several
key
recommendations
that
we
were
required
to
put
into
our
report,
and
those
recommendations
for
the
2022-2023
school
year
is
continued.
E
Work
towards
100
compliance
with
the
school
safety
and
resiliency
act
continue
to
work
towards
the
goal
of
one
mental
health,
professional
for
every
250
students,
as
funds
and
Personnel
become
available,
fostering
a
school
climate
where
students
and
staff
understand
the
importance
of
Access
Control
to
exterior
doors,
as
well
as
closing
lock-in
classroom
doors
during
instructional
time
and
working
towards
training
off
front
office
staff
to
properly
use
security
features
such
as
electronically
locking
door
cameras.
Intercom
systems
staff
should
also
be
trained.
A
H
E
We
have
right
at
a
hundred
percent
compliance
with
the
actual
law
when
it
comes
down
to
the
electronically
locking
doors,
cameras
and
those
Natures.
We
don't
have
an
actual
number
on
vestibules
or
on
any
safety
glass.
What
we
do
in
our
report
is
that
we'll
ask
for
extra
and
list
extra
security
measures,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
any
numbers
on
that.
A
A
J
You
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
coming
and
give
us
a
debrief
on
the
sros
I
have
if
you
can
refresh
my
memory
on
the
training
aspect
when
it
comes
to
mental
health
issues
and
making
sure
that
these
officers,
you
know,
have
an
understanding
and
background
and
experience
about
engaging
somebody
with
a
mental
health
Challenge
and
that
could
be
anything
from
suicide
to
either
you
know
or
have
somebody
coming
on
on
the
campus,
with
a
with
some
type
of
a
weapon.
E
J
It's
very,
very
that's
very,
very
key,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
they
have
some
experience
because
part
of
the
part
of
my
experience-
and
this
is
not
in
a
school
system,
but
it's
the
same-
it
can
be
applied.
The
same
ways
that,
when
a
suicide
happens
or
a
gun
happens
on
a
on
a
in
a
particular
facility
whatever
and
the
event
is,
has
occurred,
the
law
enforcement
sometimes
don't
have
the
sensitivity
understanding
of
what's
going
on,
particularly
about
the
victim
victim
or
the
people.
J
Wrapping
around
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
see
what
background
you'll
have
in
terms
of
helping
addressing
that
the
lmpd
in
Louisville
I
was
going
through
that
process
and
having
being
more
sensitive
when
it
comes
to
those
types
of
situations,
because
it'd
be
it's
a
dire
situation,
as
you
can
imagine
so.
I
just
want
to
see
if
you
can
comment
on
that.
E
E
And
if
it's
specific
for
the
training,
it's
majority,
like
I
said,
is
brought
in
by
folks
that
that's
what
they
do
for
a
living
and
that's
what
they're
passing
the
information
on.
And
that
was
the
folks
when
we
brought
those
folks
in
for
one
and
sro1.
They
asked
for
them
back
in
sro2
because
they
were
getting
such
good
information
from
the
source.
E
Megan
Martin
is
one
of
our
instructors:
she's
a
former
school
counselor
and
also
a
mental
health
professional.
She
does
a
lot
of
our
training
that
does
a
phenomenal
job
with
it
when
they
come
in
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
biggest
important
parts
of
our
training
is
making
sure
we're
bringing
in
the
right
people
to
focus
on
that
training,
and
it's
not
just
a
PowerPoint
of
well
when
you
run
into
this.
This
is
what
you
see.
It's
actual
folks
that
can
bounce
questions
off
of
those
mental
health
professionals
and
get
a
good
response.
Yeah.
J
And
I
appreciate
that
I
mean
SRS
are
not
you
know:
Mental
Health,
Counselors
I
get
that,
but
but
as
long
as
they
have
a
they
recognize
and
aware
of
a
particular
series
of
events,
that's
being
being
displayed
by
individual.
That
say:
hey.
We
need
a
mental
health
counselor.
That's
that's
good.
You
know
have
that
process.
One
more
question:
Mr
Mr
chairman.
A
J
Sir,
and
that
is
for
my
education,
if
something
were
to
happen
on
a
school
campus,
walk
me
through
the
notification
process
to
the
SRO
to
respond
to
that
particular
situations.
And
then,
if
there
are
other
Communications
or
response
with
other,
like
a
law
enforcement
outside
of
the
building
to
come
in
and
to
engage
in
a
situation.
E
Of
course,
it's
all
done
very
different
ways
across
the
state.
I
can
go
over
the
the
most,
notably
one
or
the
ones
we
did
when
I
was
an
SRO
and
I
actually
carried
two
radios
on
my
duty
belt.
I
carried
a
radio
for
the
school
which
I
could
directly
contact
in
the
high
school
middle
school
and
actually
the
elementary
schools
and
then
I
carried
my
police
radio.
E
And
so,
if
there
was
an
issue
on
school
grounds,
I
would
get
contacted
through
that
school
radio
and
then,
of
course,
if
I
needed
more
backup
from
other
officers,
I
could
immediately
contact
on
our
police
band
more
help
that
way.
So
that
tends
to
be
the
majority.
If
you
see
videos
of
sros
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
be
carrying
two
radios
and
you
kind
of
Wonder.
Well,
why
do
they
have
two
radios
on?
E
Well,
that's
because
the
communication,
and
with
the
technology
today
there's
even
radios
that
will
have
both
school
and
law
enforcement
on
those
radios.
But
that
tends
to
be
what
we
see
the
most
communication
wise.
J
And
so
y'all
be
notified
by
a
teacher
or
another
student
or
the
prince
possible
and
say
hey.
We've
got
something
going
on,
hopefully
that
I'm
sure
that
I
know
occurs.
H
J
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
the
link
of
y'all
being
notified,
y'all
might
have
sound
like
you
have
a
good
conversation
or
communication
with
all
enforcement
and
with
each
other,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
information
is
Broad
enough
and
covers
the
much
much
of
the
Spectrum.
In
order
for
you
all
to
be
notified,
which
I'm
sure
there
is
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
absolutely.
E
And
I
and
I
think
again
having
someone
on
campus
really
helps,
because
that
empowers
folks
that,
if
there's
an
incident
that
maybe
not
a
critical
one
right,
then
they
feel
like
they
can
come
to
the
SRO,
tell
them
about
it,
but
also
they're
empowered
to
make
contact,
no
matter
what
it
be
and,
of
course,
if
they're
on
campus,
they
may
see
the
incident
themselves
at
first
or
you
know
there
also
be,
like
you
said,
contacted
by
school,
Personnel
principal
assistant,
principals,
coaches,
whoever
it
may
be.
Yes,
sir,.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Wilcox,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
an
SRO.
Thank
you,
sir,
because
they're
invaluable
I
was
fortunate
to
work
with
really
good
sros
when
I
was
a
high
school
principal
and
and
you
can't
put
the
value
on
a
person
who
understands
their
role
and
develops
really
good
deep
relationships
with
students
and
teachers
and
administrators,
and
and
thank
you
for
doing
that.
A
The
Strain
on
schools.
As
far
as
school
safety
is
concerned,
and
the
Personnel
is
deep.
A
A
Thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
in
this
role,
which
truly
appreciated
anything
we
can
do
to
help,
because
I
think
you
could
tell
by
the
dialogue
we've
had
in
here,
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
members
in
here
right
now.
But
the
dialogue
we
have
we've
had
is
an
indication
that
this
is
Weighing
on
our
minds.
What's
going
on
in
schools
is
weighing
our
minds
and
before
we
finish
I
think
representative
cool
wants
to
ask
another
question.
G
G
So
in
your
training
is
SRO
in
charge
until
somebody
else
comes
and
relieves
them,
so
they
can
make
decisions
and
go
forward
or
are
they
waiting
for
somebody?
You
know
a
headquarters
to
tell
them
what
to
do.
E
In
our
training
and,
of
course,
I
I,
don't
do
this
training
anymore
full-time,
but
whoever
shows
up
on
that
scene
is
the
people
that
they're
going
to
be
going
to
that
gunfire.
I'll,
give
an
example
that
when
we
first
started,
training
active
shooter
training,
the
training
said
if
you
were
SRO
to
come
out
of
the
building
and
wait
for
four
more
people
to
go
in
and
do
a
diamond
formation.
Well,
we
learned
real
quick
that
that's
two.
That's
too
many
people
getting
killed
during
that
time
and
when
they
I
asked
the
instructor.
E
You
know
I
was
22
years
old.
He
said
yeah,
you
need
I,
said
no
I.
Think
I'm
going
to
tell
my
people
if
they're
coming
into
that
school
come
towards
the
gunfire
because
I'm
going
to
be
involved
and
that's
what
we
train
and
we've
had
several
incidents
in
the
state
where
whoever
was
on
First
and
was
new
the
situation,
the
best
maintained
that
command
and
I've
watched.
You
know
guys
that
are
lieutenants
and
captains
come
in
and
talk
to
a
private
or
a
sergeant.
E
That
was
pointing
them
in
the
right
direction
because
they
were
there
on
the
ground
and
knew
what
was
going
on.
So
that's
always
something
that
we
talk
about
is
if
this
is
happens,
who's
in
charge.
What
are
you
going
to
do
and
that
needs
to
go
back
also
to
the
agency
that
says
you
may
have
several
agencies
arrive.
You
know
who
are
you
leaning
towards
and
who's
going
to
do?
What
and
you
need
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
it.
That's
in
our
training
as
well.
D
G
A
You
representative
McCool,
thank
you
Mr
Wilcox.
We
we
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
and
anything
we
can
provide.
You
please
stay
in
touch
with
us.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
At
this
time
we
could
let's
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting,
got
a
motion,
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
held
on
October
19
2022..
Chairman
Tipton
is
scheduled
to
chair
that
meeting
and
now.