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Feel
free,
if
you
guys,
are
ready
to
sign
up
for
membership,
it
is
open,
be
sure
to
read
the
information
in
the
bylaws
about
membership.
That
is
part
of
the
the
form
to
make
sure
to
acknowledge
that
you've.
You've
read
that
otherwise
we
are
up
and
running
and
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
to
everybody,
especially
Bywater,
for
helping
us
get
that
site
together
and
we're
looking
forward
to
greater
things.
B
All
right,
let's
go
on
to
open
discussions,
we're
going
to
have
discussions
about
bugs
issues
and
whatnot
I
had
open
up
a
discussion
last
time
about
SMS
I
have
no
news.
No
new
news
regarding
that
I've
successfully
been
able
to
transmit
text
messages
via
Verizon
and
Sprint
horizons
been
the
best
carrier.
So
far
our
Sprint's.
I
Of
the
issues
we've
had
a
lot
of
people
ask
about
is:
what
is
the
provider
for
like
tracfone
or
straighttalk,
or
one
of
these
other
providers?
And
the
issue
is
there?
Are
that
tracfone?
Isn't
a
cell
phone
provider?
It's
a
cell
phone
retailer
so
like
what
I
lived
in
Troy
Idaho
I
had
a
tracfone
that
I
bought
in
Moscow
had
a
local
area
of
Moscow
I
have
a
phone
number
and
it's
provider
was
inland
cellular,
but
I
had
another
one
that
had
an
Idaho
Falls
number.
I
I
I
A
couple
in
there,
that's
the
one
that
I
found
text
magic,
free
carrier
lookup
is
the
one
that
I
found
that
works
most
consistently,
there's
another
one
that
called
called
free
carrier
lookup
that
I
put
in
there,
but
some
of
our
libraries
are
having
problems
opening
that
in
firefox
it
always
opens
in
Google
and
depending
on
settings.
Sometimes
it
doesn't
work
if
you
use
in
Firefox,
so.
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E
B
I
One
of
the
things
that
I
have
you
know:
I
found
a
list
online
of
SMS
gateways
and
plug
them
all,
and
just
just
like
I
took
a
shotgun
approach
to
filling
in
the
table.
I
just
fill
in
every
provider
I
could
find,
and
one
of
the
things
I've
found
is,
if
you
go
to
add
a
provider
later
there,
they
will
not
sort
alphabetically
when
in
the
drop-down,
and
so
that
actually
I
just
made
him
known
over
here.
I
I
I
Somebody
I
think
by
water
was
the
one
that
wrote
the
partial
write
offs
on
the
on
behalf
of
Fargo
on
behalf
of
and
and
it
was
added
to
1805,
and
then
somebody
decided,
since
it
was
a
small
enhancement
and
1711
happy
pen
was
just
out.
They
they
backed,
ordered
it
to
1711,
and
then
it
also
got
backward
into
1705.
So
if
you're,
you
know
we're
scheduled
to
upgrade
a
patch
upgrade
to
1705
tonight,
we're
might
have
been
last
night.
I
I
So
if
the,
if
you're
going
to
write
off
a
patron
fee,
you
can
put
an
amount
put
in
an
amount
greater
than
the
amount
that
you're
writing
off
and
then
the
patreon
ends
up
with
a
credit
and
the
way
that
I
can
see
this
playing
out
at
our
libraries
is
somebody's
got
like
a
0.50,
fine,
a
$0.50
fine
and
they
want
to
be
generous
and
write
off.
Half
of
it
so
they
go
in
and
they
clear
the
text
box
and
put
in
a
25
and
then
they've
accidentally
now
have.
I
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I
It's
to
do
a
partial
write-off.
You
have
to
do
an
individual
line.
You
can't
do
write
off
all
you
have
to
select
an
individual
line
and
click
write
off,
and
then
it
gives
you
the
option
to
enter
a
amount
for
the
write
off
and
the
default
amount
is
the
amount
of
the
fine
yeah.
So
if
you
want
to
do
a
partial
amount,
you
just
have
to
change
the
amount
there
and
that's
where
I
can
see
a
staff
member
accidentally
entering
the
wrong
number.
I
B
I
Now
so
at
least
that's
what
I
was
told.
At
least
we
are
I,
don't
know
about
everybody
else.
Nate
just
gave
us
the
thumbs
up
there.
So
so
you
know
if
you're,
if
you're
with
by
water
and
you're,
going
to
be
upgraded
to
70
no
508
sometime
this
month.
You'll
have
this.
This
new
feature
and
its
attendant
book
soon.
B
Speaking
of
this
patch,
the
the
point
eight
included
in
that
is
the
fix
for
the
check
out,
notes,
bug
it
supposed
to
email,
a
staff
member
about
any
notes
that
are
added
to
items
patrons
have
checked
out.
But
right
now
it's
emailing
the
patron.
That
patch
is
supposed
to
be
there
and
that's
what
I
had
on
the
list
to
bring
up
next.
B
If
it's
the
same
thing,
we
actually
have
a
library
we're
actually
doing
some
tests
on
what
we
call
e
cards,
where
patrons
can
only
check
out
electronic
online
resources
and
not
physical
stuff.
We
had
a
library
group
that
had
requested
this,
so
it's
something
that
we
are
trying
out
has
anybody
else
done
something
like
this
in
their
organization,
yeah.
E
We
have
a
computer
access
cards
that
can
so
they
can
use
the
computers
and
the
digital
resources,
but
can't
check
any
items
out
and
we've
had
those
for
eight
ten
months
now.
I
think
and
there's
only
a
few
in
the
system.
Not
very
many
people
use
them.
Some
of
the
other
libraries
in
our
system,
like
parents,
will
get
them
for
their
kids,
so
they
can
use
the
computer
after
school,
but
not
check
out
books
and
lose
them,
and
that's.
E
B
E
A
So
I've
got
Cynthia's
email
in
front
of
me
because
she's
I,
just
don't
put
it
on
the
agenda,
basically
she's
wanting
to
know
if
there's
a
way
for
patients
to
sign
up
for
the
e
cards,
an
e-card
by
themselves
and
gain
access
to
the
digital
collections
in
their
library,
but
have
limited
options
there
and
I
did
send
her.
Some
information
on
this
offered.
Raishin
module
and
she
said-
she'd
tried
that
out
and
they
had
mixed
results
with
that.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
for
the
label
creator,
she
wanted
to
talk
about
the
way
that
call
numbers
split.
It
looks
like
she's
having
an
issue
where
she's
got
a
duty
number
that's
540
1.15
and
she
wants
it
to
split
up
the
decimal,
but
it
doesn't.
Does
anybody
have
experience
there?
I
think
I
think
you
have
to
put
a
space
in
there
to
cause
the
break,
but
that
probably
looks
weird
even.
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I
I
B
A
List
and
there's
a
follow-up
on
the
label
creator
here.
She
also
said
that
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
create
a
label
based
on
free
text,
which
would
obviously
solve
the
issue
that
we're
discussing
and
other
ways
to
increase
flexibility
with
a
label
creator.
So
basically,
if
you're
interested
in
working
on
the
label
creator,
this
is
someone
to
talk
to
you
and
work
with
I
would
say,
because
she
has
some
good
ideas.
A
Next
on
the
list
is
the
advanced
cataloguing
editor.
If
anyone
uses
that
there
are
a
few
different
things
she
noted
here,
one
would
be
a
way
to
share
macros
because
it's
the
macros
are
cached
in
your
browser.
So
it's
by
individual
and
then
another
issue
with
the
advanced
editor
is
that
you
can't
edit
the
name
of
a
macro
after
it's
created
and
then
the
third
advanced
editor
issue.
Is
you
can't
print
out
the
whole
bib?
It
looks
like
a
screen
shot,
not.
A
F
B
B
Talk
to
you,
speaking
of
sharing,
you
know
down
down
the
road,
it
would
sure
be
nice,
you
know
I,
you
know,
we've
got
the
a
jQuery
library
and
we've
got
a
sequel
library.
It
would
be
nice
someday
and
if
we
had
a
mechanism
to
where
you
didn't
have
to
go
to
the
library
had
for
something
copy,
as
you
paste
it
in
there
it'd
be
great.
If
there
was
a
way
to
do
that
right
from
the
reports
or
from
jQuery
to
scan
the
library
and
just
import.
I
E
C
B
C
F
B
B
A
A
F
F
B
B
B
B
But
the
question
is
you
know
if
you've
got
like,
let's
say
you
have
a
season
of
Stargate
or
whatever
and
there's
like
five
discs
in
there
as
the
long
period
long
enough
for
that
that
so
we're
looking
at
that
trying
to
decide?
Okay,
do
we
create
another
loan
period
before
you
know
these
cases
that
have
more
disks
in
them?
And
then
you
know,
are
we
going
to
face
down
on
the
road?
B
Well,
I
rented,
you
know,
I
rented,
these
five
separate
or
I
checked
out
these
five
separate
discs
that
are
all
related,
but
they're,
they're,
separate,
checkouts
I
should
be
able
to
check
them
out
as
long
as
a
swung
group
of
disks.
So
you
know
we're
asking
questions
like
that.
You
know
whether
or
not
you
know
what
direction
we
want
to
go
with
this.
How
do
we
want
to
handle
all
this
and
I
was
wondering
what
are
the
other
libraries
here
doing
with
video
checkouts?
B
I
E
Did
a
similar
thing
we
put
most
of
our
series
like
one
season
together,
I
think
there's
still
a
couple
of
stragglers
that
some
of
the
branches
that
have
like
multiple
discs
on
different
with
different
par
codes
and
then
anything
that's
more
than
six
600
minutes
or
more
is
a
two-week
checkout
instead
of
a
one-week
checkout,
and
it's
worked
pretty
well
for
us.
So
far.
Okay,.
I
We've
got
different
things
going
on
with
the
reasons
that
there's
not
many
item
types,
but
that's
something
that
keeps
coming
up
again
and
again
in
discussions
is:
do
we
want
a
new
right
now?
All
of
the
things
that
are
on
video
recordings
on
discs
are
called
movies,
and
so
there
isn't
a
separate
item
type
for
TV
series
versus
feature
films
yeah.
So
this
comes
up
again
and
again
at
meetings
where
I'll
say
you
know
we
can
do
this
I
said
my
attitude
as
almost
I.
Don't
care
what
you
guys
want
to
do.
I
I
You've
got
you
know
two
big
libraries,
two
big
groups
of
libraries
where
the
director
is
kind
of
you
know
are
the
two
directors
of
those
libraries
have
a
lot
of
control
over
what
the
other
directors
do
here.
It's
all
just
a
free-for-all.
It's
like
51
different
people
arguing
about
stuff,
so
you
might
be
able
to
sell
something
there
a
little
more
easier,
but
I
think
the
most
important
thing
I
would
say
is.
I
D
B
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
those
so
that
they're
part
of
the
the
recording
but
Amy
says
from
our
experience
here.
Patron
experience
is
better
when
packaged
by
entire
seasons.
Doing
it
by
individual
discs
often
means
patrons
are
placing
folds
on
the
wrong
thing.
Our
checkout
period
for
DVD
is
two
weeks.
No
renewals.
We
have
had
no
complaints
about
loan
periods
being
too
short,
and
she
also
mentioned
that
she
prints
bibs
and
going
back
to
the
bibs
for
just
a
second
geez,
all
ER
said
from
a
library
librarians
perspective.
B
B
Thank
you
for
your
input
on
those
so
back
to
Siri,
so
yeah
one
of
the
arguments
you
know
another
one
of
the
arguments
that
we've
we've
heard
is
that
well
we
don't.
We
don't
change
loan
periods
based
on
the
length
of
a
book.
So
why
are
we
doing
that
before?
You
know
multiple
discs
in
a
series,
or
you
know
TV
series
versus
a
movie,
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
for
me.
You
know
it
ideally
for
me
it
would
be
great.
B
If
you
know
all
the
libraries
in
the
consortium
did
all
the
same
thing,
and
you
know
you
checked
out
movies
the
same
length
as
we
did
books
and
we
don't
treat
items
different
based
on
format
or
you
know
how
fast
somebody
can
get
something
in.
If,
if
you
can't
finish
it
just
like
a
book,
you
can
renew
it
and
if
you
can't
renew
it,
then
you
know
getting
the
cue
to
check
it
out
again.
I,
don't
know
why
it's
treated
differently,
never
understood.
I
That
and
that's
actually
you
know
lawrence
public
library
is
not
part
of
our
consortium.
Here
there
are
new
items.
There
are
new
DVDs
new
feature
films
check
out
for
seven
days,
every
other
video
they
have
on
a
collection
checks
out
for
two
weeks.
They
only
have
a
different
ruled
for
things
that
are
brand-new,
that
are
feature
films.
So
that's
another
way
to
approach.
It
is
just
look
at
it
as
new
versus
new
versus
old
and
have
a
different
role
for
new
and
everything.
B
B
You
know,
because
you
know
there
was
obviously
some
unique
items
in
a
system
that
you
might
not
want
to
have
that
that
shortened
date,
but
for
the
most
part
that
that's
been
a
great
feature
to
shorten
those
loan
periods
for
your
high
demand
items,
so
you
don't
have
to
go
in
there
and
touch
things
all
the
time
or
you
know,
change
loan
periods
and
people
kind
of
get
used
to
how
the
system
adjusts
according
to
demand.
So
you.
I
I
F
B
It
would
sure
be
nice,
it
would
be
nice
if
in
koha,
when
you
place
holds
you
could
arrange
your
holds
like
you
know
like
netflix.
Does
you
could
say
I
want
this
before
this.
So
if
you
had
separate
things
that
you
want
in
a
particular
order,
you're
not
going
to
get
like
the
fourth
book
in
front
of
the
first
book
or
whatever
you
know,
depending
on
availability,
it
would
be
great
to
say,
I
want
these
things
in
order.
You
know,
however
long
it's
going
to
take
that'd
be
pretty
awesome.
My.
I
Experience
was
splitting
things
up
is
like
you,
buy
the
10
disc
collection
of
Twin
Peaks.
You
split
it
all
up
so
that
each
disc
is
in
its
own
case
and
then
the
first
person
checks
out
disc
one
breaks
it
and
then
the
other
people
that
are
interested
can
only
watch.
You
know
episode
four
through
the
end
of
the
series
and
they
never
know
what
happened
in
the
pilot
so
go.
G
F
B
We
do
is
we
tend.
We
tend
to
buy
discs
that
have
digital
copies
and
we
put
that
in
our
boudu
account,
which
is
tied
to
our
Roku's
that
we
check
out.
So
if
our
discs
die
or
go
missing,
we
still
have
the
ability
to
check
out
that
movie
through
our
Roku,
which
is
really
nice,
so
we
don't
ever
really
lose
the
content.
I
was.
I
Up
in
Highland
Kansas
on
a
non
koha
related
issue
with
at
the
Highland
Community
College
and
the
director
there
they
have.
They
have
an
interim
director
out
there
right
now,
or
at
least
they
did
when
I
was
up
there.
They
have
a
huge
amount
of
floor
space
devoted
to
DVDs
and
they
are
not
getting
used
at
all,
because
the
students
that
go
to
the
Community
College,
don't
own
DVD
players,
the
younger
people
in
their
20s.
They
don't
have
a
DVD
collection.
I
They
don't
have
players,
it's
something
that
you
know,
I,
think
blu-rays,
DVDs,
I,
think
if
the
libraries
eventually
are
going
to
be
like
they
are
with
VHS,
where
it's
a
collection
that,
within
ten
years
we
might
not
be
might
not
be
so
concerned
about
having.
So
so.
If
you
take
the
long
view
who
cares
how
long
they
check
out?
You
know
in
20
years
we're
not
going
to
have
it's.
G
B
B
I
We
had
a
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
we
have
a
letter
that
Chris
Rhodey
Rhodes
as
a
congratulations.
You
just
became
a
member
acknowledged
meant
that
can
serve
as
a
receipt
for
new
members
and
there
were
a
couple
of
changes
we
were
going
to
make
to
that
in
time.
For
the
next
meeting
and
I.
Remember
who
I
think
Vicki
was
working
on
redrafting
that
we
I
did
put
all
of
the.
We
also
did
a
letter
for
you've
made
a
donation
thanks,
here's
a
here's,
a
legal
receipt.
I
You
can
use
free
taxes
and
we
did
a
letter
for
please
please
give
us
the
money
and
I
put
them
all
on
the
letterhead.
The
Jason
came
up
with.
When
we
had
Nia
that
TechSoup
letter,
then
we
realized
that
the
logo
was
incorrect.
We
reason
one
of
the
older
versions
to
logo,
so
I'm
gonna,
real,
oh,
go
those
and
we'll
get
them
finalized
at
our
next
meeting
and
have
them
to
show
to
the
board
the
next
board
meeting
we
did
spend
most
of
our
time.
I
Todd
is
told
me
that
that's
not
going
to
be
a
good
date
for
the
Bywater
people
that
he
was
hoping
to
have
speak
at
dad,
but
we
are
trying
to
organize
things
to
go
ahead
with
an
online
conference
that
we're
gonna
call
Kohath
on
probably
sometime
in
May.
Then,
if
we
can't
do
it
on
April,
23rd
and
Todd,
can
you
I
see
him
there?
I
I,
don't
remember
what
the
reason
was
for
that
something
else
scheduled
are
going
on.
I
G
I
I
But
that's
the
ideas.
It
would
be
a
Content
online
conference
that
would
start
at
9:00
a.m.
on
the
East
Coast
and
then
I
am
the
west
coast
and
twelve
hours
of
of
content
with
and
Todd's
gonna.
Instead
of
doing
a
call
for
proposals
which
will
take
a
lot
of
time,
Todd
is
going
to
ask
some
people
and
I
can
use
some
stuff.
We
probably
have
enough
people
in
this
group
that
can
we
can
tap
them
to
do
like
a
45-minute
presentation,
followed
by
begging
for
money
for
five
to
ten
minutes
and
answering
questions.
I
Yeah
we
did
the
other
thing
that
the
fundraising
committee
did
is.
We
did
take
advantage
of
a
TechSoup
opportunity.
We
now
have
a
subscription
to
grant
station,
so
we
can
that
this
can
work
out
in
two
ways
is
we
can
use
it
to
try
to
identify
areas
where
we
places
where
we
can
get
grants
from,
but
we
can
also,
if
there
are
any
members
of
kohai
us
that
want
to
use
grant
station,
to
try
to
find
grants
for
their
own
libraries,
we
can
use
it
that
way.
So.
I
G
Don't
you
have
anything
to
add
I'd
like
to
bring
up
that
George
went
ahead
and
we've
got
George
kind
of
set
up
at
that
we've
got
looks
like
we've
already
got
some
video
up
there,
that
people
can
access
for
meetings.
I
just
put
the
link
in
the
in
the
box
over
there
and
something
else
we'd
like
to
talk
is
about
is
customer
resource
manager
and
brought
up
to
the
past.
G
Chris
may
be
saying
this
Zander
ship
might
trigger
some
memories
of
L's
that
I
was
sending
out,
but
if
that's
something
that
we
can
start
to
revisit
I
think
it's
I'm,
hoping
John
was
going
to
be
here
today.
So
maybe
he
could
start
looking
into
that
and
seeing
like
what
he
can
come
up
with.
But
it's
open
source
is
free,
it
meets
our
price
points
and
it
gives
us
quite
a
bit
so
I.
Just
wonder
if
you
know
the
board
can
take
some
time,
maybe
to
investigate
it.
G
C
I've
got
a
few
things
if,
if
you
have
a
second
go
for
it,
so
we
just
got
back
from
a
late
mid
winter.
It
was
very
successful
conference,
not
not
no
librarians
wet
but
who's
a
lot
of
vendors,
and
we
have
recently
signed
Virginia
Tech,
which
is
cajas
first
ARL.
Our
one
designate,
an
academic
library
really
great
validation
for
Koha
and
open
source
in
general.
Many
people
said
that
would
never
happen,
so
it
did
they're
gonna
be
bringing
a
lot
of
development
money
to
the
table
for
academic
functionality
and
I.
C
Think
a
lot
of
that's
gonna
carry
over
to
Publix
and
specials
as
well.
So
big
win
for
Koha.
We
also
signed
a
large
consortium,
can't
tell
anybody
the
name
yet
because
of
their
current
situation
with
their
current
vendor,
but
we've
already
got
developments
on
the
table
that
our
consortium
kind
of
based,
one
about
the
branch
transfer
limits
on
holds
and
another
word
about,
limiting
the
view
and
editing
privileges
of
patrons
and
items
to
the
home
library.
C
So
again,
this
consortium
is
going
to
be
a
really
great
partner
within
the
community,
specifically
Cova
us
so
very
exciting.
They're
not
going
live
until
February
of
next
year,
but
they
should
be
getting
involved
and
kind
of
be
able
to
talk
about
stuff
later
this
year.
Let's
kind
of
deal
with
their
current
vendors
great.
C
B
D
B
C
C
You
know
kind
of
influence,
coho
in
any
way,
it's
more
open
source
kind
of
marketing
acceptance,
promotion,
which
is
really
great.
We
will
be
supporting
folio
next
year.
You
know,
assuming
that
it
all
comes
to
fruition.
How
it
will
affect
coma
is
that
the
whole
idea
is
that
the
pluggable
apps
that
will
be
kind
of
created
to
work
with
folio
we're
gonna
make
it
so
those
apps
can
also
plug
into
co-op,
so
kind
of
functionality.
That's
written
for
that
system
can
be
transferred
over
to
this
one.
C
Thing
for
those
of
you
don't
know
like
folio,
is
kind
of
created
to
be
a
direct
competitor
to
all.
Not
so
like
the
really
really
really
big
academics
like
Yale
Columbia
Harvard,
those
guys
is,
is
who
that's
gonna
be
really
targeted
towards.
But
you
know
any
functionality
that
we
can
kind
of
scrape
off
of
that
and
use
would
be
a
boon.
I
B
Right
Finance,
Committee
John
is
not
here,
so
we
will
table
that
conference
committee.
We
have
not
had
anything
going
forward
with
that
yet
because
we
are
still
planning
to
work
with
Brendan
on
the
Koha
Khan
conference
this
year.
So
we
are
just
kind
of
in
a
holding
pattern
at
the
moment
until
we
hear
from
the
that
side
of
things
so
Chris.
G
D
Just
a
quick
note
about
the
Finance
Committee
information:
I:
don't
have
any
bank
information
or
anything
for
you,
because
we
have
finally
managed
to
move
stuff.
I
I
cleared
out
the
sunflower
bank
and
since
John
a
cashier's
check,
and
so
that
is
done
and
then
Friday
I
think
John
and
I
are
meeting
to
move
the
PayPal
stuff
because
I'm
still
getting
the
emails
every
time
somebody
donates
or
does
their
membership
or
whatever
and
the
amazon
smile
stuff
over
to
John,
so
that
I
am
no
longer
relying
on.
F
D
B
B
I
So
the
YouTube
channel
we're
putting
up
the
videos
from
past
meetings
and
I
think
you
have
some
of
those
on
someone
some
YouTube
service
you
have.
So
if
you
can
let
Jason
and
I
know
how
to
find
those
we
can
put
them
on
the
new
place,
so
they're
all
in
one
central
location.
It
just
occurred
to
me
that
we
should
talk
about
that.
So,
okay
are
the
are
the
links
not
working.
I
A
A
F
F
F
This
is
what
I
brought
up
yesterday
and
I
agree
with
you.
It's
beyond
scope
of
Kowal
us,
but
I
would
like
to
see
some
way
to
encourage
small
libraries
at
really
small
libraries
to
adopt
Khoa
I
got
approached
by
someone
who
saw
my
presentation.
Internet
librarian
runs
a
hospital
library
and
they've
always
been
reluctant
to
use
open
source.
They
don't
get
a
lot
of
support
from
their
IT
department.
F
Yeah
telling
you
yeah
it's
not
as
difficult
as
it
looks
and
I
agree
with
Christopher.
It's
not
really
the
scope
col'.
You
asked
to
actually
go
in
and
set
up
for
them
some
way
to
encourage
libraries
to
who's,
but
IT
budgets
are
in
the
hundreds
of
dollars
to
dr.
Kovac
this.
You
can
really
save
a
lot.
We
were
saving
ten
thousand
a
year
over
our
previous
system,
so.
C
I've
tried
multiple
times
to
contact
state
librarians
directly,
especially
up
here
in
New
England.
Where
there
are
you
know,
sometimes
some
states
have
thirty
to
forty
percent
of
their
own.
Libraries
are
not
automated
and
I've
presented
them
with
really
cheap
I
mean
we
wouldn't
even
be
making
anything
on
it,
basically
being
passed
through
where
you
know
when
you
break
it
down.
It's
like
two
or
three
hundred
bucks
a
year
per
library.
For
these
tiny,
tiny
little
libraries
that
are
not
automated
and
I
haven't
gotten
any
traction.
C
It's
like
there's
no
motivation
from
the
states
that
I've
talked
to
for
the
library,
because
the
key
is
you
know
we
would
need
a
lot
of
them.
You
know
it
can't
be
a
one-off.
There
has
to
be
20
libraries
of
30
40
libraries
coming
over
at
once,
I've
tried
and-
and
it's
just
it's
really
not
a
priority
for
a
lot
of
these
states-
to
really
push
that.
Unfortunately.
B
High,
you
know
the
the
problem
that
you
run
into
with
the
small
libraries
you've
got
like
one.
Maybe
two
people
running
the
whole
show
there,
and
you
know
the
time,
but
they
have
to
devote
to
a
conversion,
is
really
really
difficult
on
somebody
like
that,
unless,
unless
they
have
somebody
come
into,
you
know
to
deal
with
that
solely
it's,
it's
a
really
tough
sell
for
them.
We.
C
That
I
haven't
I
haven't
reached
out
because
again
we
need
that
kind
of
critical
mass
and
right,
it's
easier
to
kind
of
find
a
chunk
of
public
libraries
that
aren't
automated
because
they're,
like
you
know
in
the
middle
of
nowhere,
then
to
go
through
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
any
association
of
small
medical
libraries
that
you
know
has
has
that
information
readily
available.
But
there's.
B
Thing
with
the
the
small
libraries
I
think
the
the
direction
to
look
at
is
for
small
libraries.
A
good
cell
is
to
say,
hey,
let's
do
a
consortium
and
you
guys
can
pool
your
resources.
You
know
if
you
can
pull
your
resources,
you
might
be
able
to
get
somebody
that
can
go
through
everybody's
collections
and
help
add
them
together,
but
it's
gonna
be
a
bigger
cell.
When
you
could
say:
okay
well,
we
have
a
system
where
you
can.
B
You
can
see
everybody
stuff,
and
you
know
you
know,
for
you
know,
a
small
fee
can
set
up
a
courier
or
whatever
you
can
figure
something
out
between
these
libraries
and
share
your
resources.
So
you
have
a
much
bigger.
You
know,
resource
of
materials,
for
your
patrons
at
a
reasonable
cost,
and
you
know
automating
is
you
know
being
a
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
a
bigger
cell
than
just
saying
hey?
Why
don't
you
just
put
your
stuff
on
a
computer,
so
I
think
to
look
at
I.
I
Think
the
issue
that
you're
probably
facing
native,
has
to
do
with
two
levels
of
inertia:
there's
probably
a
level
of
inertia
at
small.
You
know
when
you're
talking
about
at
stake
people
working
at
the
State,
Library
I
think
you're
talking
about
people
that
are,
if
they're
anything
like
like
the
people
that
work
in
state
libraries
that
I've
met
in
the
past.
There
are
any
overworked,
and
so
the
idea
of
you
know
we're
gonna
go
out.
You
know,
let's
go
promote
this,
this
new
thing
that
we're
not
already
doing
I.
Think
that's!
You
know.
I
I
The
word
is
never
going
to
get
down
to
those
people
at
the
individual
libraries
I
think
you
know
the
way
to
to
approach
really
small
libraries
is
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
there's
an
approach
from
both
sides
that
you
know
the
small
libraries
know
that
there's
an
option
there
and
that
the
state
people
know
that
there's
an
option
there
and
to
get
them.
You
know
to
get
be
the
people
that
are
using
the
resources
of
the
State
Library
to
communicate
what
they
want
better.
I
But
then
you
know
at
the
same
time,
I
can
totally
see
people
at
small
libraries
I've
been
to
plenty
of
them
where
they
don't
want
to
do
anything
new
or
they
don't
want
to
do
anything
different
they're
already
overworked.
You
know,
they're
running
a
really
small
library
for
a
really
small
amount
of
money
and
and
they're
not
full-time.
I
C
F
C
I
F
Special
Libraries
Association
and
can
I
can't
remember
what
percentage
of
libraries
like
law,
libraries
and
Becker
cultural
libraries
I
can't
remember,
but
I
think
medical
and
special
libraries
are
more
tech,
savvy
and
stratum
in
our
library.
Pretty
much
everything
we
do
is
online
MEDLINE
searching
and
pretty
much
all
the
journals
are
online,
but
we
still
have
a
few
books,
but
our
circulations
with
I
two
figures
a
month
was
a
lot
more
economical,
so
I
think
you
might
find
the
response.
B
A
B
J
B
All
right
so
we're
gonna
end
it.
There
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
in
today
again
visit
our
web
site,
which
is
now
up
cohosh
us
dot
org,
the
dotnet
is
still
the
wiki,
so
please
check
out
the
website.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
and
keep
an
eye
on
it.
We're
gonna
be
adding
things
and
you
know
sign
up
for
membership.
I
All
right,
Jason
we'll
be
able
to
push
this
video
from
this
meeting
to
the
new
YouTube
channel.
So
while
you're
there,
you
know
for
Valentine's
Day,
you
can,
you
know,
sit
down
with
your
loved
one
and
watch
like
a
four
hour
binge
of
previous
Koha
us
meetings
and
maybe
throw
in
a
couple
of
meat
presentations
from
the
conference
last
year.
So
that's
not
romantic.
I.