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A
Good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
the
august
general
meeting
for
koha
us
we've
got
a
few
announcements
upcoming
special
interest
groups.
We've
got
the
web
dev
sig
tomorrow
at
8,
pacific
11
eastern
on
monday,
we've
got
the
user
services
sig
at
12,
pacific
3
pm
eastern
tuesday.
We've
got
acquisitions,
9,
pacific,
12
eastern,
then,
let's
see
the
24th
would
be
the
following
monday
for
consortia
special
interest
groups.
A
So
this
we've
got
lots
of
great
things
going
on
there
and
you
should
definitely
check
it
out
if
you're
interested,
there's
all
the
ones.
I've
gone
to,
there's
always
been
great
discussions,
so
definitely
check
those
out.
A
So
we've
got
some
merch
for
our
new
for
our
online
conference.
That's
next
month
online,
together
with
our
great
logo
from
jason.
We
also
have
some
a
new
shirt
with
one
of
the
logos
that
we
had
for
cohab,
that
we
didn't
end
up
using
there,
but
we
liked
it
so
we
decided
to
put
it
on
some
merch
and
we've
also
got
some
masks
available
now,
because
redless
has
masks
available
and
they're
donating
a
portion
of
their
shares
of
their
proceeds
to
medshare
to
help
combat
the
virus.
B
Also
you
mind
if
I
make
a
request
that,
if
not
speaking
that
everybody
that
they
mute
only
you're,
not
if
you're
speaking,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
coming
soon,
we've
got
some
educational
videos,
christopher
and
george,
for
the
education
committee
put
together
a
video
that's
going
out
thursday
it'll
be
live
on
our
youtube
so
check
that
out
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
some
more
so
keep
keep
your
eyes
peeled
for
that
any
other
announcements.
A
Yes,
I
think
we
were.
We
hadn't
picked
a
date,
yet
I
emailed
margaret
this
morning
because
we
hadn't
picked
a
date.
When
we
had
our
last
meeting,
I
think
we're
gonna.
A
We
talked
about
trying
to
have
some
of
our
meetings
at
times
that
some
of
our
international
colleagues
could
join
us,
because
we
know
that
there's
some
folks
internationally,
who
also
read
books
and
craft
and
so
we're.
I
think,
gonna
try
to
coordinate
our
next
meeting
to
be
probably
on
a
saturday
morning
for
us,
I
think,
was
when
we
figured
it
out,
but
margaret
and
I
are
still
freaking
out
the
time
and
the
next
book.
We
have
given
people
a
couple
weeks
to
make
suggestions
and
then
we're
gonna
pick
one
this
week.
A
Thanks
for
checking
in
annual
conference
update,
so
the
biggest
thing
for
the
annual
conference
update
in
right
now
is
the
presentation
deadline
which
is
at
the
end
of
this
meeting.
A
So
if
anyone's
interested
in
presenting
at
our
online
conference
next
month,
we
we're
still
accepting
presentations
right
now.
We
have
a
a
conference
meeting
right
after
this
meeting
in
the
same
room.
So
I,
if
you're
interested
in
presenting
even
if
you're
you
know,
we
asked
for
like
information
for
the
committee
and
information
to
go
in
a
pamphlet
or
like
a
conference
schedule
for
attendees
to
be
able
to
see.
But
if
you
haven't
written
something
up,
but
you
know
like
vaguely
what
you
want
to
present
on
if
you're
interested
we're
also
asking
for
workshops.
A
I
know
we
have
a
couple
of
those
lined
up,
but
we're
hopefully
going
to
be
putting
together
the
rough
schedule
at
the
meeting
right
after
this
one.
So
if
you're
interested
in
presenting
that
is
still
open,
and
I
will
drop
the
link
to
the
forum
in
the.
A
Chat
development
voting
results
in
progress.
Rhonda
is
running
a
little
late
today,
so
I
think
we're
probably
going
to
come
back
to
that.
One.
A
Once
she
is
able
to
make
it
unless
I'm
missing
her
okay,
we're
still
looking
for
a
couple
volunteers
for
social
media
help.
We
have
our
youtube,
facebook
and
twitter
accounts
and,
if
anyone's
interested
in
helping
out
a
little
bit
there,
you
know
we
don't
we're,
not
posting
like
10
things
a
day
or
anything.
You
know
just
just
a
little
bit
of
social
media
experience
and
help
share
that
share
all
the
great
things
that
we're
doing
around.
A
So,
if
you're
interested
in
that
you
can
email
info
at
cohanashus.org
and
I'll
also
be
sending
out
an
email
later
today,
asking
for
volunteers
if
anyone's
interested
and
thank
you
megan
who's
been
doing
a
great
job
with
the
social
media,
so
conference
committee
reports
pretty
much
since
the
last
meeting.
You
know
we
announced
the
last
meeting
that
we're
gonna
do
online,
we're
still
figuring
out
the
schedule.
A
A
Okay,
development
committee
we'll
talk
about
that
once
rhonda's
here
education,
our
big
thing
is
the
new
videos
that
will
be
going
out.
The
first
one
will
go
live
tomorrow
at
I
think,
8am
pacific,
yeah,
8am
pacific
tomorrow
and
then
we'll
be
having
them
every
other.
Thursday
is
the
plan.
A
A
A
D
Sorry
I
one
of
our
projects
that
we've
done
we're
kind
of
in
a
rural
area,
not
kind
of
we
are,
and
for
this
area
we
have
the.
What
is
it
foundation
center
grant
foundation
center?
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
that,
but
they
keep
track
of
grants
and
things
like
that
that
small
businesses
and
non-profits
and
things
like
that
can
use.
B
Yeah
it'll
be
great.
I
know
that
we
we
have
access
to.
You
know
to
some
resources.
If
you'd
like
them,
I
can
go
ahead
and
forward
them
to
you.
You
can
also
look
for
different
grants.
How
coveted
would
relate
I
mean
I
can
think
of
a
number
of
different
ways.
Covid
we
can.
We
may
be
able
to
use
that
for
grants
for
particular
libraries.
I
don't
know
how
we'd
be
able
to
use
it
for
the
organization
but
yeah.
B
A
Up
thanks,
christopher
john,
would
you
like
to
do
the
finance
committee
report.
E
Sure
thing
much
like
with
a
lot
of
the
other
committees,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
to
report
this
time
around
with
the
first
half
of
the
year
over.
This
is
the
time
of
year.
Normally
the
finance
committee
and
our
financial
activity
generally
would
all
be
circulating
around
the
upcoming
annual
conference
going
virtual
there's
not
only
a
need
for
really
much
or
any
of
that
activity.
So
there's
not
a
whole
lot
to
report.
E
E
That
issue
has
since
been
resolved
in
the
the
revised
number
is
actually
71,
with
the
extra
the
extra
membership
actually
being
converted
over
to
a
donation,
so
that
will
be
reflected
in
next
month's
report.
We're
still
doing
very
well
financially
because
we've
collected
membership
money,
but
haven't
really
had
an
opportunity
to
spend
it
on
anything
and
most
of
our
expenses
for
the
year
have
already
been
accounted
for.
E
A
few
other
highlights
to
note,
since
it
is
august,
the
second
quarter,
complete
financial
detail,
is
available
under
the
2020
quarter
to
kawhi
us
financial
report.
We
took
in
a
total
of
one
thousand
one
hundred
twenty
three
dollars
and
eighty
seven
cents
over
the
second
quarter
and
spent
seventy
two
dollars
and
seventeen
cents.
So
we
did
really
well
keep
in
mind.
E
We
budgeted
for
quite
a
bit
of
activity
in
that
based
on
previous
activity,
but
our
activity
year
to
date,
has
been
just
a
little
bit
lower,
so
here's
hoping
that
that
amount
is
perhaps
just
a
little
bit
higher
than
it
has
traditionally
been.
One
final
note
from
the
finance
committee
and
me
personally
as
the
treasurer
I
am
nearing
the
end
of
my
time
to
be
treasurer
eligible,
I've
been
elected
twice
and
I've
served
two
effective
two-year
terms,
and
so
there
will
be
a
call
when
nominations
are
requested
for
the
2021
board.
E
The
position
of
treasurer
will
be
available
for
nomination
because
I
am
no
longer
eligible
to
run
for
it
any
member
in
good
standing.
That
would
like
to
consider
running
for
this
position
and
is
interested
in
learning
more
about
the
details
involved.
Please
feel
free
to
contact
me
at
treasurer
ohious.org
and
I'd
be
glad
to
fill
you
in
on
anything
that
you'd
like
to
know
about
the
position.
E
That's
it
from
the
finance
committee.
You
may
hear
my
weather
radio
going
off
in
the
background.
We've
got
two
zoom
meetings
and
the
weather
radio
going
on
at
the
same
time.
So
it's
possibly
very
loud
and
very
confusing,
and
since
nobody
stopped
me,
I'm
guessing
that
I'm
actually
the
loudest
out
of
any
of
them.
So.
A
Christopher
s
in
the
chat,
christopher
brandon,
what
became
of
the
other
financial
position
that
had
been
discussed
in
the
past?
So
we're
also
well
john.
Why
don't
you
talk
about
that.
E
I'm
still
in
the
process
of
putting
that
together
and
now
there's
there's
a
fire
under
my
butt
to
do
so
with
with
me,
having
started
my
brand
new
professional
position
with
the
detroit
area,
library
network,
that
is
still
very
much
in
place,
even
if
I
do
get
that
in
place,
and
there's
no
reason
to
think
that
that
will
not
happen.
There's
still
the
relatively
large
question
of
whether
or
not
I
will
be
allowed
to
assume
that
position.
E
This
is
officially
my
third
day
on
the
job,
so
I'm
still
doing
a
lot
of
figuring
stuff
out,
but
the
intention
is
still
to
create
that
by
the
financial
manager
position
have
its
wording
approved
by
the
board
than
the
membership,
and
as
designed
it
will
be
a
board
nominated
position
that
the
membership
will
then
vote
on
with
the
the
unwritten
intention
that
I
would
move
off
of
treasurer
and
into
that
pending
approval
of
all
the
various
parties
and
approval
of
the
wording
itself.
E
A
Thanks
john,
I
think
we're
gonna
give
rhonda
a
little
more
time
to
come
back
to
the
development
stuff.
If
she's
not
here
at
like
9
10,
we
can
go
ahead
and
talk
about
what
we
talked
about
the
board
meeting
and
but
jason,
and
I
were
also
at
the
development
meeting
on
friday,
but
she
did
say
she
was
gonna,
be
here.
She
just
had
a
meeting
that
ran
late,
so
I
think
we
can
do
some
open
discussion
of
bugs
issues
etc.
A
For
now-
and
I
have
a
couple
at
least
some
of
which
were
reported
by
christopher
brannan,
but
some
of
these
have
been
discussed
either
like
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
closing
libraries
for
the
summer
at
the
systems
meeting
yesterday
this
man,
the
system's
sick,
was
only
yesterday
morning.
That
seems
like
it
was
a
week
ago.
Okay
yesterday
was
a
busy
day
in
lake
tahoe
county.
A
So
this
is
book
one
two,
four,
five
zero
and
it's
closing
libraries
for
the
summer
and
just
some
information
about
like
this
would
have
been
especially
helpful
when
some
libraries
were
closing
in
consortiums,
especially
we
being
able
to
like
have
one
centralized
place
where
you
can
say.
I
want
to
close
this
library
either
until
I
turn
it
back
on
or
until
specified
date,
and
just
have
a
lot
of
things
that
you
can
do
all
at
the
same
place.
A
If
you
think
that
would
be
helpful,
please
comment
on
the
bug
because
yeah
this
is
a
very.
This
is
something
we
deal
with
every
summer:
closing
the
schools
in
our
consortium,
we're
like
50,
50,
public
schools
and
libraries,
public
libraries
and,
like
all
our
schools
close
over
the
summer,
and
so
we've
got
a
whole
like
12
page
document
about
here.
All
the
things
you
need
to
do
and
when
you
need
to
do
them,
but
being
able
to
have
it
done
through
quahog
would
really
simplify
things
in
the.
H
Future
I'm
gonna
chime
in
lizette.
I
will
actually
put
a
comment
on
this.
We
have
one
library
set
as
closed
as
best.
We
can
right
now
because
we're
building
a
new
building
and
we
had
to
tear
down
the
old
building,
so
it
will
reopen
at
some
point,
but
right
now,
you're
right,
it's
a
higgledy-piggledy
of
hiding
them
in
the
oak
pack
and
making
their
holds
not
available.
H
All
that
stuff,
so
it'd
be
really
really
nice
to
be
able
to
just
have
from
next
day
to
y
day
and
have
all
that
happen
in
one
spot,
and
then
I
don't
have
to
remember
to
like
do
all
of
the
things
when
they
open
back
up
again
yeah.
Thank
you
yeah,
and
you
said
you
had
a
book
to
talk
about.
I
do
actually
let
me
throw
that
into
chat.
This
is
a
relatively
new
bug.
As
of
like
this
week.
We
use
paypal
and
our
patrons
love
it.
H
What
we
don't
love
is
when
they
pay
for
things
that
are
less
than
a
dollar
because
of
the
paypal,
fines.
That
means
that
we
don't
get
to
collect
a
lot
of
it
when
you
pay
a
quarter
in
your
fines
on
paypal,
so
we've
tried
to
do
things
like
hiding
things
with
jquery
and
whatnot.
But
of
course
we
have
a
pretty
tech
savvy
population
and
they
can
unhide
things.
H
H
A
C
A
Here's
another
bug
that
I
was
looking
at
this
week:
25063,
which
is
opec
renewal
option-
and
this
is
another
one
christopher
suggested
thanks
christopher,
where
having
a
knob
where
patrons
could
renew
or
request
a
account
renewal
from
the
opec
so
like
when
you
send
out
that
your
account
is
expiring
email,
you
could
have
it
like
a
link
to
the
opec
and.
A
I
Yeah
the
big
push
on
that
was
to
tie
it
in
with
the
online
updates.
You
know
they
could
mark
whether
or
not
you
know
anything
has
changed
and
that
they
needed
to
renew
and
really
automate
that
process.
If
nothing
has
changed
and
they
are
asking
for
a
renewal.
You
know
that
could
open
up
the
the
opportunity
for
the
system
to
automatically
renew
them.
Rather
than
have
staff
do
that
staff
would
only
intervene
if
there
were
changes.
A
Okay,
elaine,
you
said
you
had
a
bug.
You
wanted
to
talk
about.
J
Yeah
it's
a
problem
for,
for,
I
guess,
libraries
like
ours,
which
is
a
small
research
library
as
opposed
to
a
public
library
or
even
a
university
library.
It's
the
cart.
People
have
decided
that
when
they
put
something
in
the
cart,
it
means
they're
ordering
it
and
it
doesn't
work
that
way.
J
You
know
a
pull-down
menu
that
you
could
set
different
things
to
call
it
or
or
the
ability
to
edit
it
yourself,
though,
from
what
I
understand
it's
actually
in
it's
linked
into
a
bunch
of
different
places.
Messages
like
do
you
really
want
to
empty
your
cart
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
not
a
simple
thing
of
just
labeling
the
button,
but
so
I
filed
a
bug
or
actually
an
enhancement
request.
I
guess
is
what
it
really
is,
and
it's
it's
probably
not
useful.
J
If
you
do
things
like
holds
because
I
understand
you
can
then
take
the
cart
and
then
put
things
on
hold,
but
we
don't
do
holds
either.
So
it's
it's
really
an
awkward
thing.
What
we
do
use
it
for
is
creating
a
list
that
we
then
go
and
find
things
in
the
stacks,
because
we
have
stacks
all
over
the
building
and
most
of
the
collection
is
not
actually
accessible
by
the
reader.
So
you
put
things
in
the
cart.
J
A
We've
also
had
a
lot
more
confusion
with
that,
since
we've
been
closed,
where
people
are
like
placing
all
their
holes
online,
I
mean
we're
open
again
now,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
still
doing
just
curbside
pickup
for
holds
and
we'll
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
like.
I
added
it
to
my
cart,
but
it's
not
showing
up
on
my
holds.
B
F
You
still
have
your
cart
open,
because
if
you
do
there's
a
way
to
put
it
on
hold
but
yeah
they
get
so
confused,
but
some
people
actually
know
how
to
use
it
so
like,
if
you're
putting
multiple
things
on
hold.
It's
really
great
for
them
to
just
like
go
down
the
list
and
add
things
to
the
cart
and
just
do
it
in
a
batch.
But
most
people
just
don't
know.
B
B
Just
real
quick,
I
see
that
rhonda
made
it,
so
we
need
to
talk
about
developments
and
in
that
vein,
I
think
kyle
has
finally
wrapped
up
his
curbside
service
in
koha
and
he's
going
to
submit
it,
which
is
a
contribution
by
kyle
and
by
bywater,
because
we
there
was
a
quote
from
gosh,
not
evergreen,
but
the
group
that
runs
evergreen
down
in
georgia.
They
want
to
do
it,
I
think,
for
twelve
thousand
dollars.
B
So
let's
come
into
the
community.
H
I
think
we'll
go,
can
you
can
you
link
to
that
in
chat,
because
I
want
to?
I
want
to
look
at
it.
B
B
Or
would
I
just
describe
the
curbside
service
yeah,
no
kyle's,
that's
the
one.
Who's
got
all
that
he's
monday.
B
A
A
K
Okay,
so
I
think
I
don't
know
if
everybody
got
the
email
that
I
sent
to
koha
u.s
members,
but
we
completed
the
development.
G
K
Cycle
and
the
development
that
was
about
adding
I'm
still
trying
to
pull
this
stuff
up
from
from
the
last
meeting
about
hang
on
a
second
I'll
actually
get
this
up,
and
then
I
won't
sound
like
a
babbling
idiot,
okay,.
K
Okay,
so
the
one
that's
been
voted
for
is
customizing
the
account
lines,
description,
which
is
bug
two
four,
eight
six
five
and
that
was
submitted
by
lizette,
and
so
she
will
be
joining
us
on
the
journey
to
get
this
all
in
through
the
the
steps
to
get
it
into
development.
K
This
is
one
that
we
can
pay
for.
We've
got
one
library,
that's
paint
putting
in
a
thousand
dollars
and
then.
K
Koha
us
can
put
the
remaining
four
thousand
dollars
for
this
one,
so
we
are
meeting
with
kyle.
Let's
see
would
be
a
week
from
this
friday,
the
development
team
and
lizette,
and
just
to
get
the
initial
traction
on
exactly
what
we
want.
This
development
to
look
like
and,
and
things
like
that,
and
then
we
will
yeah.
K
I
need
to
be
speaking
with
the
library
that
pledge
the
thousand
dollars
on
it,
which
I
think
was
knuckles
or
secles
or
one
of
those
two
and
and
then
the
development
committee
is
also
looking
at
okay.
So
that's
set
that
aside,
you
know
we
we're
going
to
be
moving
forward
with
that
particular
development.
K
The
other
discussion
that
we
had
at
the
development
meeting
was
how
to
make
this
whole
development
process
more.
K
I
don't
know
what
the
word
is
easier
to
get
things
developed
in
in
the
process.
We
came
up
with
kind
of
ideas
about,
maybe
not
having
the
you
know
two
times
a
year
voting,
but
maybe
having
development
submitted
that
were
then
vetted
by
the
development
team.
K
Pardon
me
and
then
we
would
have
a
dashboard
webpage.
You
know
on
our
website
that
would
indicate
kind
of
thermometer
amounts
of
funding
and
when
a
development
got
to
the
reach,
the
critical
funding
amount,
if
we
weren't
able
to
if
kawhi
us
couldn't
fund
it
all,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
sort
of
devel
noticed
is
the
developments
that
get
submitted
are
the
ones
that
libraries
can't
really
afford
on
their
own
they're
more
expensive,
and
so
we
would.
K
We
talked
about
you
know
when,
when
we're
betting,
a
particular
submission,
we
could
set
a
trigger
point.
If
you
will,
for
you
know
when,
when
this
one
gets
funded
25
by
other
library,
you.
K
Then
quahog
can
can
fund
the
rest
of
it.
You
know,
or
maybe
this
one's
way
more
expensive,
so
we
have
to
say
when
it
hits
50
percent
or.
K
Funding
then
we
can
will
trigger
that
and
and
fund
it.
So
yeah
we've
got
a
document
started
and
we're
kind
of
going
through
that
trying
to
iron
out
some
of
the
different
processes,
but
just
really
trying
to
change
this
whole
process
up
to
make
it
easier
for
us
to
get
developments
into
the
development
cycle.
K
A
Okay
and
let's
see,
I
think,
looking
back
in
my
notes,
fred
had
something
he
wanted
to
talk
about
with
the
open
discussion.
G
G
G
Fruitful,
just
a
thought
you
might
have
for
the
conference.
A
I
have
a
couple
more
but
two
one,
six,
four,
eight.
A
Patron
merge
merges
patron
duplicates
per
patron
attributes.
So
if
you
have
we've
had
a
much
higher
number
of
patrons,
we
needed
to
merge
where
people
didn't
think
they
had
an
account
or
thought
it
had
been
deleted
and
self-registered
for
a
new
account.
A
So
we've
been
doing
a
lot
more
patron
merges
lately
and
we
have
some
patron
attributes
that
are
not
repeatable
that
then
we
had
one
patron
that
had
made
four
self-registered
accounts
because
they
didn't
they
like
weren't
reading
the
instructions
and
didn't
understand,
and
so
then
they
ended
up
with
like
five
of
one
attribute
because
they
already
had
it
and
then
they
had
it
for
each
of
their
self-registered
accounts,
and
it
was
just
it's
like
an
attribute
that
should
only
be
available
once
per
patron,
and
so
this
is.
A
An
issue
here
and
christopher
commented
in
the
bug
that
it's
not
there's
not
an
easy
way
to
clean
up
multiple
patron
attributes.
You
know
you
can,
when
you
duplicate
the
patron.
If
you
go
in
and
look
at
it,
you
can
clear
out
each
one
individually
of
the
duplicates
and
then,
when
you
save
you
don't
have
duplicates
anymore,
but
it
can
be.
I
I
would
love
to
see
this.
This
get
some
traction
because
you
know
patron
merge
is
something
that
we
desperately
need,
and
we
can't
use
it
at
this
point
because
of
of
this
issue,.
A
And
then
I
also
have
bug
two
five:
six,
one:
nine
at
ability
to
adjust
expiration
date
for
waiting
holes,
so
this
would
be
like
if
you
need
to
you,
know
someone
calls
and
they're
not
going
to
be
in
town
until
friday,
but
it's
expiring
on
wednesday,
especially
if
you
have
the
automatic
expiration,
cron
job
turned
on
where
it'll
expire
holds,
for
you
being
able
to
just
like
extend
that
or
change
it
or
like.
A
We
basically
did
this
when
we
did
all
our
when
we
were
closed,
we
didn't
expire
any
holds
for
like
really
actually
until
we
reopened,
except
for
a
couple
specialty
items
that
were
in
high
demand
so
being
able
to
just
like
go
in
and
extend
all
those
dates
would
have
been
really
nice
in
the
system
because
we
have
like
reports.
We
run
about
items
that
are
have
been
on.
The
whole
shelf
too,
on
that
are
usually
have
walked
off
somehow.
I
I
I
H
A
A
A
A
So
if
you
use
or
are
interested
in
using
patreon
attributes,
you
might
be
interested
in
the
chat.
Has
anyone
encountered
a
1020
init
error
when
using
z3950.
C
Yeah
I
just
I
googled
it
a
1020
is
the
system
is
temporarily
unavailable,
so
my
guess
is
that
whatever
you're
trying
to
connect
to
might
be
down,
we've
run
into
some
issues
with
that.
Does
it
happen
that
every
institution
that
you
search
or
just
one.
L
Happens
when
oclc
is
trying
to
connect
to
to
our
server
so
they
can
harvest
our
data
to
have
it
populate
in
real
time
on
the
discovery
service
so
because
our
it
guys
can
get
through
it
on
the
yaz
application
they
can
connect
and
when
oclc
tries
to
connect
to
the
yaz
application
they
can,
but
then,
when
they
go
into
their
discovery
service.
It
just
shuts
down
for
that.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
exactly
what
is
going
on
there.
L
But
yeah
I
was
like
you
know
what
I
will
ask
you
and
see
what
they
said,
because
I
don't
really
understand
too
much
on
the
technical
side.
D
L
D
D
G
C
Comments,
so
I'm
I'm
guessing
monica
that
you're,
like
self-supported
from
what
fred
said.
I
noticed
that
you
you
put
this
on
the
koa
us
list.
Have
you
reached
out
to
the
general
list
about
it
at
all?
They
may
have
more
input
than
we.
We
do
more
information
on
those.
L
L
A
A
My
friend
thanks
for
coming
well,
we
might
wrap
up
a
little
early
then
so
those
of
us
who
are
also
going
to
the
conference
committee
meeting
in
10
minutes,
can
you
fill
up
our
water
bottles
or
get
more
coffee
or
whatever
thanks
everybody
for
coming,
and
we
should
have
more
information
soon
about
the
conference
for
you
and
also
in
the
near
future,
about
the
development
process.