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A
Hi
everyone,
I'm
mark
noble
from
bywater
solutions
and
with
me,
is.
B
A
Do
our
very
best
to
stand
behind
this
computer
and
not
wander
out
among
y'all,
so
yeah
we're
here
to
talk
about
aspen
and
koha.
So,
let's
see,
I
guess
I'll,
introduce
myself
a
little
bit
mark
noble
from
bywater
aspen
team
lead
developer.
I've
been
working
on
aspen
in
various
names
and
for
various
companies
for
like
a
dozen
years
now,
which
is
crazy.
It
looks
absolutely
nothing
at
all
like
it
used
to.
A
C
D
He
lied
to
me
so
my
name
is
erica
richardson,
I'm
the
assistant
director
of
denver,
public
library.
Where
is
benbrook,
it's
just
a
borders
fort
worth
texas,
and
so
we
are
a
small
community
library.
We
are
also
a
special
purpose
district
library.
So
what
that
means?
In
texas
there
are
over
500
libraries
there's
only
16
special
district
libraries,
so
that
basically
means
we
are
not
attached
to
our
city.
We
get
funds
directly
from
the
state
from
sales
tax,
and
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
red
tape.
D
There's
not
a
lot
of
begging
and
pleading
pretty
much
anything
we
do.
We
do
have
a
governing
board,
we
ask
they
mostly
say
yes
and
we
do
our
own
thing.
So
it
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
be
able
to
explore
and
do
some
of
the
fun
stuff
that
libraries
are
always
wanting
to
do,
and
so
that's
kind
of
our
background
on
that.
We
try
to
be
on
the
forefront
of
a
lot
of
the
makerspace
technology,
all
of
those
things,
and
so
my
director
has
been
wanting
to
do
cohort
aspen
for
a
long
time.
D
So
for
this
presentation,
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
background
on
how
we
got
to
be
here
and
then
I'm
going
to
let
mark
go
through
and
tour
and
do
all
the
technical
things
that
I
don't
know
how
to
do.
D
D
D
So
we
started
out
with
polaris
and
we
were
part
of
the
metro
pack
and
the
metro
pack
was.
I
believe
it
was
six
libraries
with
fort
worth,
and
this
is
a
partnership
that
lasted
for
about
20
years,
and
so
it
worked
well.
Everything
was
fine,
polaris
well
lyrics
was
players,
and
so
what
happened
was
during
covid
and
I'm
skipping
down
the
timing.
But
during
covid
we
found
ourselves
in
a
spot
where
contract
negotiations
were
coming
up.
D
We
didn't
like
hearing
what
they
were
telling
us.
As
far
as
some
of
the
things
that
we
were
wanting
to
do
for
our
patrons
and
our
patrons
were
asking
us
to
do,
and
so
what
happened?
Is
we
kept
hearing?
No
from
polaris?
No,
no!
You
can't
do
that.
No,
no,
no,
no!
No,
and
so
because
the
way
we
are
set
up
our
patrons
come
in.
D
There
is
no
city
to
complain
to
there
is
nobody,
there's
our
board,
but
it's
pretty
much
where
the
front
line
we
get
it
all
good
and
bad
and
ugly,
and
so
in
our
patrons
we're
having
to
keep
telling
them
no
we're
looking
at
ourselves.
Why?
Why
are
we
saying?
No,
this
doesn't
make
sense.
Our
patrons
want
this,
and
so
we
started
looking
at
ways
where
we
could
say
yes,
and
so
that's
where
cohan
aspen
came
in
the
negotiations
for
metropack
were
coming
up.
D
That's
like
a
lot
a
lot
of
education
that
took
a
lot
of
patreon
education
on
that
side
too,
but
we
felt
because
of
the
research
we
have
done
prior,
that
this
was
going
to
be
the
best
move
for
us
going
forward
with
cohon
aspen,
the
expense
just
itself,
and
so,
whenever
aspen
came
into
the
picture,
we
were
like
well
we're
already
going
to
do
all
this
once.
Why
don't
we
add
this
extra
layer
and
just
do
it
again?
Just
do
it
all
at
once,
and
so
that's
what
we
did
and
so
looking
back.
D
I
would
have
much
rather
have
done
this
twice
rather
than
four
different
times
this
year,
and
so
I
think
in
the
end
we
made
the
right
choice.
Were
we
one
of
the
first
to
do
that.
B
D
Both
do
both
okay
yeah,
so
we
were
the
first
to
do
it
so
you're
welcome.
We
laid
the
roadmap
for
that.
So
migration
number
one.
Some
of
the
things
we
learned
from
the
first
migration,
the
data
retrieval,
was
the
hardest
part
for
us.
We
kept
being
told
there's
a
way
that
you
can
go
around
and
do
this,
but
it
did
not
work
for
us
at
that
point,
and
so
it
was
contacting
the
consortium
and
then
contacting
polaris
individually
to
try
to
get
our
data.
D
A
process
that
usually
should
take
a
week
took
at
least
six
weeks
longer
than
expected
so
which
caused
our
go,
live
dates
to
go
from
october
to
november
solely
because
we
were
not
able
to
get
our
data
on
time,
and
so
that
was
the
hardest
part
for
us,
because
we
had
this
whole
implementation.
We're
all
excited
we're
going
to
do
this
yeah,
and
then
we
had
to
wait
for
that
to
happen,
but
eventually
we
got
our
data.
We
got
everything
working,
we
went
through
both
implementations.
D
We
did
all
of
that
and
then
we
got
to
go
live
yay,
the
biggest
problem
that
I
remember
and
again
this
was
a
year
ago
during
covent.
So
what
else
do
I
have
I've
forgotten
through
that
time
that
formatting
receipt
printers
was
the
worst
thing
ever
for
us.
That
was
the
one
that
caught
us
off
guard,
and
so
we
had
to
go
back
and
figure
out.
I
think
that
took
a
couple
weeks
actually
to
really
get
the
formatting
on
that,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
lessons
that
we
learned.
D
We
also
had
a
very
short
timeline
due
to
things
out
of
our
control,
that
we
could
tell
our
patrons
hey
we're
going
to
a
whole
new
system,
hey
we're,
leaving
this
huge
consortium,
it's
just
going
to
be
us,
and
so
what
we
focused
on
was
ills
hey.
You
can
get
all
these
books
still
from
iolls
and
materials
from
ill
from
any
library
in
the
country.
D
We
did
not
tell
them
it's
going
to
take
two
to
four
weeks
for
those
materials
to
arrive,
and
so,
but
we
did
the
best
that
we
can
and
the
way
and
my
director
isn't
genius
on
some
levels,
but
what
he
did
is
that
he
actually
put
the
contract
of
the
metro
pack
on
our
website
to
our
patrons
and
said:
read
the
contract.
D
You
tell
us
if
you
would
make
the
same
decision
and
so
every
time
a
patron
came
in
to
complain
to
do
this.
Why
are
you
leaving
did
it?
We
would
have
that
contract
there
and
every
time
they
came
back
to
us
like
okay,
yup,
you're,
right,
you're,
good,
you
made
the
right
decision,
and
so
that
really
helped
us
in
a
weird
way,
just
to
being
so
transparent,
and
so
with
that
realization
moving
forward.
That's
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
just
be
transparent,
with
any
process
change,
anything
that
we
change
going
forward.
D
So
migration
number
two
so
in
november,
we're
all
happy
we're
all
by
ourselves.
We
can
do
our
own
cataloging.
We
can
do
all
these
things
that
we
haven't
make
all
these
decisions.
We
haven't
been
able
to
make,
and
then
we
get
alerted
that
the
metro
pack
with
those
six
other
libraries
decided
to
also
leave
fort
worth
and
they
wanted
to
form
another
consortium.
D
So
we're
like.
Okay,
let's
do
it
so
we
started
the
process
in
february
of
joining
with
those
same
libraries
plus
adding
another
library
that
was
brand
new
from
a
whole
nother
system
into
the
folds.
So
we
started
from
scratch
and
created
an
entirely
new
consortium
called
the
metro
share,
and
so
this
is
our
nifty
logo
that
we
came
up
with
and
and
so
basically
that
group
that
had
left
the
metro
pack
had
done
their
own
research
and
they
had
looked
at
all
the
different
ilses.
D
They
looked
what
they
wanted
and
after
looking
at
everything,
they
decided,
cohan
and
aspen
was
the
best
choice
for
them
as
well.
So
we
all
got
together,
saying
pumbaa
did
all
these
wonderful
things
and
then
started
the
process
of
merging
into
a
brand
new
consortium,
and
so
bywaters
was
very
made.
It
very
easy
for
us.
They
just
basically
copied
all
of
our
cohort
information
and
plugged
it
in,
and
so
each
of
the
libraries
had
a
template
to
use.
D
We
that
we
did
not
have
going
for
that
first
one,
and
so
it
made
it
a
lot
easier
in
a
ways
and
made
it
easier
to
make
those
decisions
in
going
forward.
Go
live
number.
Two
port
numbers
are
very
important
to
tell
all
your
electronic
resource
vendors
that
they
have
changed
so
there's
about
four
days
there,
where
we
had
no
libby,
no
hoopla,
no
cloud
library
that
we
had
to
go
we're
working
on
it.
I
promise,
and
so
that's
our
second
big
lesson
are
port
numbers.
D
We
went
through
a
really
ugly
bad
divorce
and
then
we
found
new
love
and
so
now
we're
getting
married
again,
and
so
that's
the
analogy
we
kind
of
use
for
our
patrons
because
they
actually
understood
it
and
got
it,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
we've
taken
and
enrolled
with
and
so
for
us
again
that
transparency
with
the
patrons
was
vital
and
and
the
metro
share
consortium
we've
been
officially
going
a
month
now,
august
23rd
was
go,
live
and
so
that
has
worked
out,
there's
been
some
kinks.
D
Obviously,
there's
always
going
to
be
kinks
again.
The
second
something
will
go
wrong.
Always
always
it
will
go
wrong,
but
as
long
as
you
have
that
structure
and
that
foundation-
and
you
have
strong
support
staff,
you
will
make
it
through.
That
was
our
big
lesson
and
then,
like
I
said,
staff
support
is
crucial,
so
we
had
a
lot
of
buy-in
with
our
staff.
We
had
to
go
actually
go
back
to
our
stuff
and
say
hey.
I
know
y'all
like
doing
your
own
thing.
D
D
A
Okay:
let's
get
that
out
of
the
way
there
we
go:
here's
ben
brook's,
wonderful,
catalog,
and
when
we
go
through
implementation
with
a
new
library
and
start
working
with
them,
one
of
the
things
we
really
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
sit
down
and
our
implementation
specialists,
addy
and
morgan
I'll
sit
down
and
try
to
really
understand
what
is
important
to
you
because,
like
we
heard
yesterday
at
the
keynote
you're,
the
ones
that
know
your
patrons
best
aspen
is
really
designed
to
be
patron
facing.
A
So
when
we
talk
to
ben
brooke,
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
were
really
important,
so
the
library
of
things
like
erica
mentioned
earlier,
so
we've
got
our
library
of
things
here,
we've
done
some
really
cool
stuff
like
we
can
upload
custom
covers
browse
all
of
those
be
able
to
find
them.
So
we
can
find
our
disc
golf
kit
and
check
that
out.
A
We
also
have
some
binge
boxes
that
were
really
cool,
so
we
can
check
out
all
of
our
super
duper
heroes,
books
and
then
the
academic
resources
were
something
that
were
really
important,
because
that
was
something
that
we
didn't
want
to
lose
migrating
off
as
we
were
moving
so
so
we
we
worked
with
the
library,
as
we
brought
in
more
libraries
into
metro
share.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
each
were
supporting
their
libraries
as
well.
A
A
So
close
got
burleson
and
everybody,
as
we
see,
has
different
things
that
they
want
to
show
off.
So
here
we've
got
our
10
to
try.
We've
got
all
kinds
of
different
banned
books.
We've
got
things
before
you
were
born,
let's
see
if
they're
before
I
was
born,
yeah.
C
A
A
This
last
couple
of
days,
so
somebody
was
saying
this
morning-
hey,
I
thought
this
was
discovery,
but
what
sam
was
showing
was
more
like
a
cms.
We
can
add
web
pages
and
we
can
add
menu
links
and
that
kind
of
thing-
and
it
is
it's
really
kind
of
evolved
over
the
years
to
be
everything
patron
facing.
So
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
that.
A
The
presentation
there's
a
one,
more
new
project
erica-
wants
to
do
towards
the
end,
but
it's
really
evolving
as
we
listen
and
work
with
libraries
to
see
what
all
they
need
so
we're
building
in
web
pages,
because
sam
needed
an
easy
way
to
to
build
in
web
pages.
So
we've
got
got
those
in
integrated
events
and
how
many
people
saw
sam's
presentation
yesterday.
How
many
people
didn't
see.
A
So
I
won't
repeat
all
of
sam's
presentation
because
he
did
a
wonderful
job
yesterday,
but
if
you
want
to
catch
up,
we'll
definitely
do
that.
So
some
of
the
other
things
that
we've
built
in
that
we
didn't
see
as
much
yesterday
are
things
like
being
able
to
get
some
recommendations.
A
So
we
know
that
libraries
and
patrons
don't
always
know
exactly
what
they're
looking
for
or
they
find
something
they
like
and
need
other
ideas.
So,
let's
just
book
title.
B
D
A
Yeah
and
of
course
I
can't
type
here
so,
let's
see
one.
A
So
all
of
that
functionality
that
you
have
in
koha
is
available
in
aspen.
You
don't
have
to
re-enter
a
bunch
of
settings
to
make
things
work.
The
way
you
want
them
to.
A
So
we
really
streamline
that
setup
process.
For
you,
then,
as
we
place
holds,
we've
got
some
additional
recommendations,
so
we
really
want
to
make
it
easy
for
patrons
to
serendiply
serendipitously,
discover
content
so
yeah,
maybe
I've
heard
of
harry
potter
and
the
prisoner
of
azkaban,
but
I've
never
heard
of
the
hand
on
the
wall.
So
maybe
I'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
see.
If
that
looks
good
and
from
here
I've
just
got
a
spider's
web
of
other
titles
in
the
series,
so
bringing
in
that
novelist
content.
A
All
of
that
enrichment
and,
of
course,
we've
got
our
hoopla
overdrive
cloud
library,
access,
360,
all
of
the
different
e-content
materials,
which
of
course
in
this
consortium,
not
everybody
subscribes
to
the
same
stuff,
so
we're
separating
it
out
according
to
each
individual
library.
So
we
get
to
see
only
what
our
patrons
can.
C
A
So
we're
not
annoying
the
patrons
with
here's,
a
bunch
of
stuff
you
might
like,
but
you
can't
have
it
sorry,
then
we
can
see
some
other
titles
that
we
might
like.
So
we
can
really
just
go
through
this
and
spider
into
all
kinds
of
different
things.
So.
B
A
Yeah,
so
the
question
was:
how
do
we
get
all
of
this
content?
You
wanna?
No,
you
know
okay,
so
the
answer
is,
it
depends.
A
So
some
of
this,
like
also
in
this
series,
is
content
that
we're
bringing
in
from
novels.
So
that's
an
extra
subscription
that
does
show
things
like
also
in
the
series
similar
series
from
novelist
similar
titles
from
novelist.
So
if
we
go
into
that,
we
get
a
little
more
information
about
it.
A
If
you
don't
want
to
use
that
the
more
like
this
functionality,
that's
all
based
off
the
metadata
and
the
records
so
that
works
for
everything
so
free
included,
no,
nothing
additional
to
pay
for
you,
don't
have
to
go
out
to
synthetics
or
content
cafe
or
novelist
to
get
that
it
works
also
for
not
just
books.
It'll
work
with
dvds,
it'll
work
with
music,
so
any
of
those
resources
that
your
patrons
are
using.
They
can
get
other
ideas,
then,
of
course,
there's
ways
to
get.
A
So,
let's
look
at
some
different
lists.
Let
me
I'm
gonna,
guess.
A
So
some
of
these
series
will
come
out
of
different
the
metadata
so
we'll
pull
that
from
hoopla
or
from
overdrive,
or
your
marked
records.
D
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
I
will
mention
too,
is
that
you
have
to
remember
we
again.
We
went
through
two
migrations,
so
there's
a
lot
of
aspen
that
we
haven't
played
with
because
we've
been
just
doing
the
basic
get
the
records
over
our
patrons
are
happy,
and
so
we're
just
now
at
the
point
where
we
can
take
a
breath
and
say:
oh
hey,
we
can
do
this
or
hey.
A
Yeah
so,
and
a
great
example
of
that
is
lists,
so
lists
are
things
that
librarians
can
make.
They
can
be
searchable,
so
we
can
say:
hey
here's,
a
bunch
of
different
new
york,
in
this
case
new
york
times
that
we're
bringing
in
automatically
this
title's
on
three
different
new
york
times
lists,
and
we
can
click
on
them.
Those
to
see
other
books
in
that
some
libraries,
arlington
public
library
in
virginia
has
created
like
got
over
a
thousand
staff
lists
that
they've
created
over
the
years.
So
those
are
really
good
resources.
A
Those
also
are
really
good
at
showing
up
in
google
results,
which
is
cool.
So
if
you
do,
searches
for
we've
got
a
few
different
searches
that
you
can
actually
find.
Arlington
public
library
nationwide
based
off
the
the
book
lists
that
they've
created,
which
is
cool,
so
just
got
some
great
ways
to
find
those
things.
D
Hard
and
they
traditionally
in
some
ways,
get
buried,
even
though
we
try
to
push
that
information
forward.
So
that's
why
it
was
important
for
us
to
put
it
up
there
and
put
it
as
academic,
so
that
some
of
those
databases
that
don't
get
utilized
as
much
as
we
want
them
to.
Maybe
that
would
push,
and
so
far
from
the
stats
we
have
seen
just
a
little
bit
of
extra
usage,
which
you
know
just
makes
us
happier.
D
E
D
So
we
do
have
a
really
robust
makerspace
area
and
so
the
I
believe
it
was
supposed
to
go
to
our
website.
That
has
all
the
training,
videos
and
all
of
that
that
go
along
with
the
makerspace.
And
so
thank
you.
D
A
Yep
yeah,
so
all
of
those
resources
are
customizable.
What
I
love
is
that
we
can
like
as
libraries,
kind
of
rip
off
each
other
and
where
we've
got
some
of
those
different
lists.
I
think
keller
had.
A
So
they've
got
their
cool
checkouts
that
is
similar
to
what
was
done
with
the
library
of
things.
So
it's
the
here's,
our
activity
kits,
here's
our
tough
talks.
So
every
month
we've
got
aspen
gatherings
where
we
can
can
kind
of
share
those
ideas
with.
How
do
we
promote
these
things
that
we're
spending
a
lot
of
staff
time
money
make
sure
that
patrons
know
about
them
so
that
we
can
do
that
which
people
will
browse
the
catalog
and
find
those
things
they're?
A
A
C
D
And
I
will
say
too,
with
coming
in
with
a
consortium,
one
of
the
issues
right
with
seven
different
libraries
was
some
have
mcnaughton
collections.
Some
have
too
hot
to
handle
is
what
feller
calls
theirs,
and
so
those
are
collections,
and
we
have
our
library
things
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
circulate
on
a
courier
or
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
accessible.
So
we
decided
that
we've
got
the
settings
to
where
a
patron
can
come
in
and
check
those
out,
but
they
can't
be
sent
over
to
another
library
through
the
courier
system.
D
So
we
don't
care
if
other
patrons
come
in
and
get
it.
We
just
want
it
to
be
accessible
for
those
patrons,
and
so
they
just
don't
end
up
on
the
courier.
So
those
are
some
of
those
consortium
level
things
that
aspen
made.
It
really
easy
to
do
a
lot
of
those
things
where,
with
other
ils
systems,
it
took
a
lot
of
wiggling
and
maneuvering
and
aspen.
Just
innately
was
able
to
do
some
of
that
stuff.
A
Yeah,
so
the
placard
is
showing
up
based
off
different
keywords,
and
so
you
can
create
these
on
your
own.
We've
got
libraries
that
are
doing
them
for
read,
alikes
that
are
doing
them
for
special
events.
Mckinney's
working
on
putting
some
in
for
events
that'll
show
like
event
calendars
list
of
upcoming
things,
so
that
you
can
subs
can
register
events
straight
from
from
aspen.
A
Basically,
you
just
create
some
different
keywords
and
say:
okay,
we
know
we
want
it
to
show
up
for
crochet
croquet,
binoculars
bird,
watching
whatever
you
have
you
just
say
hey.
This
is
when
we
want
to
show
it
and
it
shows
it
you
can
change
the
look
of
this
so
like
arlington
has
one
that's
beautiful.
They
it's
always
fun.
A
When
people
do
things
with
software,
that
you
don't
think
they
can
do,
which
is
really
cool,
so
they
created
a
beautiful,
rita,
likes
placard
that
allows
you
to
see
other
titles
when
you're
searching
for
the
one
that
you
just
learned.
So
we
can
see
that
later.
If
we
want
to.
E
A
During
the
implementation,
as
people
come
up
with
new
projects,
so
we're
really
learning
from
you
all
to
optimize
aspen
to
do
what
you
need
to
serve
your
patrons
the
best.
A
So
one
of
the
other
quotes
yesterday
from
the
keyword
keynote
was
that
open
source
grows
with
you
and
won't
become
obsolete,
and
I
really
think
that's
true.
So
over
a
dozen
years
we've
been
able
to
build
the
platform
so
that
it
does
way
more
than
discovery
really
really
serves
the
need
of
the
library
as
well.
D
Yeah
we
can
do
that,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
an
email
I
can
go
home.
It's
me
again,
hey
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
the
comments
that
I
saw
about
aspen
was
that
their
website
builders,
one
of
the
issues,
are
including
website
builders.
One
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
having.
D
D
So
a
lot
of
the
patrons
found
the
nearest
library
that
does
and
then
we
have
been
overwhelmed
with
donations
recently,
and
so
we've
done
different
things.
We
have
there's
an
antique
mall
in
benbrook,
and
so
we
took
a
booth
there,
so
we
didn't
have
to
staff
it
and
so
there's
a
little
bookshop
in
there
and
but
we're
still
overwhelmed
with
all
these
books
and
so
we're
looking
at
doing
it
online.
And
so
when
I
saw
the
aspen
website
builder,
I
was
like
hey
wait.
D
I
wonder
if
I
can
do
something
like
that,
and
so
that's
what
I've
been
in
talks
with
mark
is,
if
there's
a
way
to
make
a
friend's
website
from
there
and
if
there's
a
way
to
do
an
online
component
with
those
books,
and
so
we
started
going
back
and
forth,
we
do
have
an
ebay
shop,
so
there
is
an
it
homicide.
Digit,
that's
funny!
So
there's
a
widget
that
you
can
put
in
an
embed
with
ebay
that
can
link
you
directly
to
the
ebay
store.
D
But
what
we're
interested
in
is
doing
some
kind
of
very
small
amount
of
cataloging
bring
up
the
title
covers
in
coho
and
be
able
to
link
that
to
aspen,
and
so
even
just
right
before
this
presentation
mark-
and
I
were
both
going
over
those
possibilities
saying
well-
maybe
we
could
do
this.
Maybe
we
can
do
that
so
again,
this
is
just
one
of
those
things
we've
been
having
this
issue.
D
We
need
a
resolution
trying
to
figure
it
out,
and
then
I
just
see
this
email
and
it
starts
off
this
chain
of
events
and
luckily
with
bywater,
so
we
were
able
to
have
that
person
to
contact
and
have
those
just
brainstorming
ideas
of
what
will
work.
And
so
honestly,
if
I
were
to
say
the
best
thing,
I
love
about
aspen.
D
The
best
thing
I
love
about
coffon
is
that
right
there
that
ability
to
go
back
and
forth
and
to
have
solutions
to
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
going
on
and
not
being
told
just
know
and
forget
about
it,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
with
that.
So
hopefully,
in
the
next
couple
weeks
we
can
start
once
we
catch
our
breath
and
start
looking
at
that
and
get
with
our
friends
group
and
find
a
way
to
make
that
work.
So
that
would
help
benefit
our
library
and
the
friends
as
well.
B
A
Which
could
just
be
a
branch,
and
so
that's
some
of
the
cool
things
that
we
can
do
with
koha
to
kind
of
tie
the
two
together,
so
we
can
set
up
a
branch
that
has
books
that
are
just
available
through
this
store
just
available
through
a
special
aspen
interface,
that
is
the
friends
of
them
public
library
site.
So
there's
all
kinds
of
neat
things
we
can
do
and
just
looking
at
some
of
the
different
kind
of
web
content
that
people
have
put
on.
A
Some
other
libraries
have
done
a
lot
more
with
youth
or
with
different
pages,
so
we've
got
family
page,
so
this
is
all
customized
directly
with
aspen
using
kind
of
the
cms
functionality.
So
we've
got
links
into
different
story
times
different
books,
book
lists,
and
these
are
super
easy
to
create
in.
C
A
So,
just
like
sam
was
showing
how
to
create
them
yesterday,
any
search
any
list
super
easy
to
embed
its
iframe
code
goes
into
any
other
website
or
straight
back
into
aspen,
so
no
matter
kind
of
what
what
site
you're
using
we're
just
watching
the
last
presentation
on
the
h5p
code
and
that
should
all
be
pretty
easy
to
embed
as
well.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
first
person
that
does
a
3d
tour
through
the
or
a
virtual
tour
through
the
library
and
puts
it
in
aspen.
That's
gonna
be
really
cool.
A
So
all
of
this,
then,
is
completely
responsive.
A
I
don't
know
let's
so
as
we
scroll
down
to
more
of
a
mobile
size,
it
all
resizes
and
rescales
properly
for
you
so
we're
serving
the
patrons
wherever
they
are,
which
is
great.
We
love
doing
that
and
you
know
mobile's
definitely
something
that's
it's
been
a
thing
for
a
while
and
there's
still
ios's
that
don't
adapt.
A
Aspen
has
been
responsive
for
a
long
time.
We
are
working
on
a
mobile
app
as
well,
so
we're
excited
to
serve
people
that
way
we're
kind
of
looking
at
that
as
a
complementary
product
to
aspen
or
a
complementary
usage,
so
that
somebody
can
easily
see
what
they
have
checked
out
from
their
mobile
device.
We're
working
on
all
of
the
reminders
and
if
people
saw
christopher
zorn
presentation
yesterday,
he
was
talking
about
building
his
app
and
the
awesome
thing
with
libraries.
Is
we
all
love
to
share?
A
So
he
was
kind
enough
to
help
share
that
code
with
us
to
give
us
a
starting
point
for
aspen.
So
aspen's
app
is
built
with
code
that
he
started
initially
and
then
we
can
build
on
it
and
give
him
things,
and
he
can
give
us
things
and
it
all
gets
better
as
we
go
so
he's
built
a
ton
of
it.
So
a
lot
of
credit
goes
out
to
him
and
we're
enjoying
it
that
app
should
release
sometime
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
so
yeah.
A
So
we're
looking
at
being
able
to
add
things
like
self
check
to
the
app
add
some
more
mobile
notifications.
We're
looking
forward
to
some
patron
engagement,
pushing
out
some
push
notifications
to
people
so
that
we
can
really
engage
with
them.
So
there's
all
kinds
of
fun
things
we
can
always
do
so.
B
A
A
You've
got
a
book
due
in
three
days
or
you've
got
a
book,
that's
overdue
today
or
you
have
a
book,
that's
overdue,
two
weeks
from
now
or
two
weeks
ago,
and
hopefully
that
delivery
is
a
lot
easier
and
also
we
want
to
be
able
to
push
related
content.
So
when
you're
sending
that
overdue
notice,
you
could
say
or
a
whole
pickup
reminder
say:
here's
your
whole
pickup
reminder
or
here's
your
checkout,
here's
three
other
books
you
might
like.
So
just
like.
A
We
saw
that
while
you
wait,
here's
some
additional
things
that
we
can
show
you-
or
maybe
we
even
do
stuff,
where
it's
like
hey
you've,
had
a
long
wait
for
this
book.
Here's
some
three
other
ones
that
you
can
see
because
we
know
it's
going
to
take
another
six
weeks
to
get
you
whatever.
The
popular
title
is
right
now,
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
can
do
and
that's
going
to
be
a
conversation
with
all
of
you
to
figure
out
exactly
what
we
want
to
do
on
those.
A
A
So
hey,
let's
push
to
all
of
our
seniors
and
say:
hey.
This
homebound
service
is
now
available.
If
it's
something
that
you
would
find
a
value,
so
yeah
it'll
be
really
interesting
to
see
what
all
we.
What.
E
A
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
that's
full
enough,
so
the
short
answer
on
gib
frame,
so
it's
another
technology,
that's
another
representation
of
data.
So
in
some
ways
aspen
is
doing
some
similar.
So
aspen
can
ingest
content
in
any
format.
So
we're
pulling
mark
records
out
of
coho
we're
pulling.
A
Json
or
xml
from
overdrive,
we're
pulling
cloud
library
uses
mark
records,
hoopla
uses,
I
think,
json
feed,
so
we
can
pull
content
and
none
of
those
overdrive.
Things
are
formatted
as
mark
generally
or
if
they
are
they're
kind
of
played
loose
with
the
rules,
so
aspen
can
pull
all
of
those
in.
So
if
like
coha
were
to
move
to
bib
frame,
we
could
certainly
ingest
that
and
then
internally
aspen's
kind
of
using
its
own
representation,
because
we
have,
as
we
saw
when
we
searched
for
midnight
library.
A
So
midnight
library
we've
got
the
book.
We
got
the
book
on
cd,
the
e-audio
book,
the
e-book,
kindle
large
print
playaway.
We've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
different
versions.
So
in
order
to
display
those
results,
aspen
has
to
gather
from
all
of
those
different
sources
change
the
display
so
that
it
means
something
for
the
patron.
So
I
guess
the
short
answer
is:
if
koha
did
web
frame,
we
could
definitely
use
bibram.
We'd
still
probably
be
massaging
it
into
something
different.
A
One
of
the
directions
that
we've
been
going
with
aspen
is
a
lot
more
community
based,
so
the
community
of
libraries
using
aspen
being
able
to
contribute
things
like
translations
to
each
other.
So
as
we
translate
one
of
the
things
that
benbrook
has
is
a
vietnamese
translation.
A
So,
as
those
are
translated
and
contributed,
we
can
have
other
libraries
use
those
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
the
same
things
with
things
like
placards
with
things
like.
A
We
can
do
a
lot
of
that
in
aspen.
So
when
we
look
at
something
like
the
midnight
library,
it
has
a
unique
id
within
aspen.
So,
no
matter
what
site
you
go
to
what
I
asking
site
you
go
to
this
midnight
library
gets
the
same,
unique
id,
which
means
we
can
kind
of,
let
all
of
the
librarians
be
able
to
contribute
content
and.
A
E
A
A
So
again
we
love
getting
ideas
from
librarians
and
working
to
make
aspen
better
for
everyone.
So
so
thank
you
for
that
idea.
A
So
a
much
better
search,
interface,
better
relevancy,
all
of
the
record
grouping
the
ability
to
easily
browse
all
of
the
content
management
functionality,
the
ability
to
do
placards.
If
you
have
events
and
stuff
the
ability
to
integrate
those,
we
use
the
same
cosy
server
that
koha
can
use.
So
you
don't
have
to
get
extra
subscriptions
to
covers.
A
C
Them
we're
having
them
pull
all
of
our
advanced
ticketing
system
and
it's
pulling
all
of
the
event
programming
into
it.
So,
for
example,
if
you're
going
to
search
for
I'll
use,
one
that
we've
worked
on,
if
you
do
a
search
term,
drag,
for
example,
in
the
search
results,
you're
going
to
play
a
platform
that
we've
created
advertising
our
program
as
well
as
links
to
the
event
page
that
talks
down
the
interview
right
there.
F
If
I
go
to
the
site,
I'm
going
to
jump
to
another
tab
here,
because
I
can.
D
One
of
the
things,
the
reason
why
we
chose
it
is
the
discover
ability,
and
so
we
had
one
wanted,
ebsco
discover
services
and
we
weren't
able
to
get
that
in
a
in
a
way
that
we
wanted
the
flexibility
to
do
that.
So
that's.
The
original
reason
why
we
went
with
aspen
is
just
that
extra
discoverability
layer,
all
of
our
texture
databases,
all
these
databases,
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
and
contribute
to.
F
F
Yes,
yes,
oh
yeah,
it's
working,
fine
has
been,
has
been,
it's
been
working
fine
since
six
months
after
the
quahog
using
in
in
pueblo,
it
works.
Fine.
I
think
you
all
are
using
it
now
too
yeah.
The
hard
part
was
getting
the
state
library
to
believe
us
that
it
was
a
a
password.
You
know
the
only
way
you
can
get
to
that
url
is
by
being
authenticated,
that's
a
whole
other
story,
so
you
do
a
search
here
and
it
pulls
up
in
the
placard,
a
link
out
to
the
event
where
you
can
get
ticketed.
F
It's
got
all
of
our
other
events.
Our
our
city
calendar
these
things
appearing
in
here.
So
you
get
that.
C
D
And
I
will
say
going
back
with
what
I
know
now
after
a
whole
year
of
all
of
this,
and
I
would
absolutely
do
it
again
in
a
heartbeat
just
the
ease,
not
the
implementation.
That
was
fun,
I
wouldn't
say
easy
fun,
but
everything
that
we've
gotten
from
that
and
the
patron
satisfaction
I
mean
I
have
not
heard
one
complaint
from
aspen
from
a
patron
except
no.
I
take
that
back,
there's
one.
D
No,
there
is
one
he
has
checks
out,
50
books
at
a
time,
and
so
when
auto
renewals
come
up,
it's
not
digested,
so
he
has
50
emails
that
his
item
has
been
auto
renewed.
So
that's
coming
in
the
next
fix
is
what
I
heard,
but
other
than
that
that's.
C
B
A
So
here's
some
of
the
resources
that
we
have
so
we've
got
aspen
weekly,
which
is
a
weekly
newsletter
that
we
all
take
turns
writing
on
the
team.
So
it's
got
all
sorts
of
different
news
updates,
tutorials
just
to
learn.
A
We've
got
a
great
archive
of
material
that
you
can
go
through;
they
get,
some
of
them
are
technical.
Some
of
them
are
not
that
technical.
If
you
have
ideas
for
other
things,
you
want
to
read
about
it,
that'd
be
great
too.
A
We
have
a
monthly
aspen
gathering
on
the
second
to
second
thursday
of
every
month
that
everybody's
free
to
join
if
you're
interested,
and
then
we've
got
a
couple
of
webinars
coming
up
that
we'd.
D
No,
we
never
had
coho
catalogue,
so
we.
D
They
all
our
patrons
known
as
aspen
and
because
we
went
initially
with
doing
both
at
the
same
time
the
migration
with
koha
and
aspen,
at
the
same
time,
both
times
that
we
did
it
so.
A
A
So
there's
two
different
interfaces,
so
we
can
see
either
all
of
the
different
formats
together.
So
here's
we
can
see
midnight
libraries
available
in
all
kinds
of
different
formats.
This
is
pages
that
most
people
will
get
to
showing
the
description
more
like
this
again
from
just
regular
metadata.
A
We've
got
all
of
the
subject,
information
and
that's
pulling
in
this
case
from
all
of
the
different
records,
similar
titles.
If
you're
subscribing
to
that
similar
authors,
reviews
from
good
reads,
staff
view.
So
in
this
case
this
is
showing
the
combined
data.
So
this
is
where
we're
taking
data
from
all
of
the
different
sources
and
grouping
it
all
together.
So
we
can
see
everything
all
together.
B
A
B
B
A
All
of
these
can
be
reordered,
so
aspen's
got
a
ton
of
customization
to
it.
That's
part
of
as
we're
helping
people
implement.
We
work
through
what
order
do
those
want
to
be
in
if
you're
part
of
a
consortium-
and
you
can't
agree
on
what
order
they
should
be
in
that's
fine.
Each
library
can
pick
their
own.
So
we've
given
up
trying
to
tell
libraries
how
to
do
things
so.
A
And
then,
if
we
do
want
to
see
a
particular
one,
so
we
can
look
at
here
is
the
just
the
book.
We
can
see,
of
course,
all
of
the
call
numbers
status
of
each
individual
item
where
those
are
across
the
consortium.
A
We
get
a
little
bit
of
additional
information.
We
get
some
citation
information,
you
get
to
see
all
the
other
editions,
then
we
can
actually
see
the
staff
view.
So
we
can
see
the
mark
record
there
for
the
people
that
want
to
see
the
staff
view
different
sections.
Will
this
will
display,
depending
on
the
content
type?
So
if
it's
an
overdrive
title
we'll
show
you
all
the
wrong
metadata
that
we're
getting
out
of
overdrive
or
that
kind
of
thing.
B
A
We
do
have
and
sandwich
on
it
to
the
open
archive,
so
we
can
see
all
of
the
different
images
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
and
then
be
able
to
relate
those.
So
if
I'm
doing
a
report
on.
C
E
So
we
have
a
couple
more
questions
in
the
youtube
both
of
them
are
from
christopher.
You
offer
community
patching
and
qa
similar
to
how
bugzilla
is
used
for
coha.
A
Looking
for
any
issues
as
releases
come
out,
we've
got
a
more
rapid
release
cycle
than
coha,
so
we're
not
releasing
every
six
months,
we're
releasing
roughly
every
three
weeks
to
kind
of
adapt
and.
E
And
it
looks
like
there's
also
a
issues
tab
in
the
github.
B
C
E
A
Just
we've
got
a
slack
work
face
that
that
anybody
could
join
as
well
as
just
just
email
us.
Let
us
know.
A
Yeah,
it's
fully
responsive.
So
as
we
search
for
midnight
library,
it's
gonna,
fully
adapt
and
you're
gonna
see
all
the
content.
Some
of
it
will
get
collapsed,
but
it's
full
functionality.
Everything
works
great.
If
let
me
see
if
I
can
so,
if
we
go
back
and
look
at
titles
on
hold,
we
can
see
all
of
our
titles
on
hold
for
physical
materials.
So
everything
shows
up
the
once
we
have
the
app
the
app
will
not
have
as
much
functionality,
at
least
to
start.
A
So
it's
it's
more
of
a
complimentary
product
at
this
point,
so
we're
going
to
use
it
to
do
the
stuff
that
you
need
an
app
to
do
so
like
scan
a
barcode,
be
able
to
or
scan
an
isbn
when
you're
in
the
bookstore
to
see
if
your
local
library
has
it
some
of
those
self-check
kind
of
functionalities
that
you're
not
going
to
use
your
computer
or
desktop
for
so
unless
somebody
might
carry
a
desktop
and
try
to
sell
the
truck
so.
E
We
do
have
one
more
question
in
the
chat.
Also.
We
have
a
break
now
for
15
minutes,
so
if
people
need
a
break,
I.
E
We
will
have
the
next
in
15
minutes,
but
we
do
have
one
more
question
in
the
youtube
chat.
Melissa
asks:
how
does
it
work
with
overdrive
if
you
use
an
advantage?
Membership,
no
cohab
didn't
do
well
with
syncing
those
records.
A
Yeah,
so
aspen
will
automatically
bring
in
through
the
apis
all
of
your
titles.
All
of
your
advantage,
titles,
all
of
your
advantage
plus
titles
they've,
got
new
models
that
they
don't
have
apis
for
yet
so
they've,
but
everything
that
overdrive
does
all
of
those
advantage
models.
All
work
great.
You
see
all
of
the
materials
that
you
have
access
to
without
having
to
see
all
the
other
ones
and
that
works
both
if
all
of
your
members
are
part
of
one
overdrive
consortium,
we've
got
a
an
installation.
A
That's
got
three
different
overdrive
collections,
so
we've
we've
seen
it
all.
I
think
from.
A
I
keep
burning
myself.
We
have
seen
a
lot
of
things,
so
the
the
overdrive
integration
is
really
robust
and
and
supports
all
of
the
oddities
that
overdrive
keeps
coming
up
with
so
far,
but
they're
coming
up
with
new
ones
too
so
and
same
with
hoopland
cloud
library.
So
you.
A
All
of
the
hooflow
records
in
you
can
limit
by
by
price,
so
that
you
can
say
I
want
to
show
things
to
my
patrons
that
are
under
two
dollars
to
check
out.
You
can
say
I
don't
want
to
show
the
comic
books
you
can
say
I
do
want
to
show
the
comic
books.
I
only
want
to
show
the
comic
books,
lots
of
different
options
and
that
can
all
be
controlled
again
per
library
within
the
consortium.
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
There's
no
more
questions
in
the
chat
right
now,
so
thanks
so
much
for
your
presentation,
it's
very
interesting!