Koha-US SIG - Acquisitions Special Interest Group, 21 Oct 2020

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00:11:52 Stephanie D'Angelico: Not really familiar, is there somewhere that I can read about it?
00:13:31 Stephanie D'Angelico: We're fairly new on Acquisitions - sounds like we could use that for our Blackstone annual standing orders.
00:13:48 Stephanie D'Angelico: Thank you - yes that is fairly clear.
00:15:55 Jason Robb: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lpMtptzjM-f8oiYSPPygEWIGlz9NaDLG/view?usp=sharing
00:16:30 Hasina Akhter: Thanks Jason!
00:22:15 Michelle Clarizio - Roseville Public Library: It still doesn't "link" up with baskets created with EDI correct?
00:24:38 Michelle Clarizio - Roseville Public Library: i'll have to play with it when the Bywater demo is upgraded
00:25:23 Hasina Akhter: I think it's a choice when we add items into basket?
00:27:51 librarystaff: no
00:29:53 Hasina Akhter: That's a good one :)
00:31:44 Hasina Akhter: However new suggestion adding into basket?
00:34:54 Hasina Akhter: How often do you delete purchase suggestion?
00:36:16 Hasina Akhter: True
00:43:36 Stephanie D'Angelico: I like the notification option
00:45:35 Hasina Akhter: Anyone here has more than 10 libraries use ACQ module. Thanks.
00:49:54 vescobar: We are the only ones in SoCal that uses it
00:53:56 Jason Robb: Acquisitions SIG mailing list: acquisitions-sig@koha-us.orgConsortia SIG mailing list: consortium@koha-us.orgGeneral koha-us list: koha-us@koha-us.orgGlobal mailing list: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
00:55:46 vescobar: Excited about the limit on Patron Suggestions
00:56:56 Margaret Hade: https://youtu.be/-Q05J_3GIOI?t=1335
01:00:32 Jason Robb: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26712
01:00:39 Jason Robb: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26729
01:00:46 Jason Robb: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26680
01:00:53 Jason Robb: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26731
01:00:58 Jason Robb: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26732
01:04:33 librarystaff: Thank you, Rhonda
01:04:34 Stephanie D'Angelico: Thank you!
01:04:34 Daphne: Thank you Rhonda
01:04:35 Carol Pham Corrales: Thank You!
01:04:42 vescobar: Thank you!
01:04:46 Hasina Akhter: Thanks

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It says recording up in the corner.

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Okay, welcome to the october session of acquisitions um sig, and um I just had a couple of things that I thought you know to give it some structure. We do talk about a couple of things, but then the end at the end, we'll just have it open for questions and and whatever people want to talk about. um I wanted to revisit the um for old business. I wanted to revisit the open po function, um just to kind of get a sense of how many people are interested in this. It doesn't.

A

You know it's been out there for a while and really hasn't gotten any traction. But when I talk to individual libraries, they seem real interested in it. So um I'm not real sure what we need to do to you know get this going.

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um I can you know if a couple people wanted to get together and kind of work, something out and then the rest of us can can talk about it. That would be one way to move forward with it.

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um Yeah, let's just does anybody have any comments uh about the open po um function? Does everybody understand what that is? Is it something that your library.

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Uses because I.

C

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Beat a dead horse, but uh that's it seemed like it in the beginning. It was something that.

D

Is a when you say open po? Is that like a blanket p.o or yeah.

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Blanket yeah that would be another word: okay,.

D

Because I believe that so I'm from middlesex community college in massachusetts- and I believe that our um it was a person from my school that was interested in that.

A

Oh okay, okay, yeah, blanket po openpo; okay, that yeah.

D

So we would definitely be interested in that if anybody else is interested.

A

Okay, um now stephanie is saying not really familiar. Is there someone that I can read about it, um I'm not really sure. Probably if you search on blanketpo, basically what it is. Is you start out and correct me if I'm wrong here, but you start out you open up a po with you know: well, ten thousand dollars against it and then, um instead of purchasing everything all at once, you purchase it over time and but keep uh hitting that po and you know so um an example might be uh overdrive.

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Where we will do you know uh a blanket po and um we'll do you know we'll buy ten thousand dollars worth of credit and then each week that we order will charge against.

E

That 10 000.

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And bring it down, but.

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It's all against that. One.

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Po that and then it doesn't actually close until we've spent all the money on it. Is that and does everybody kind.

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Of agree that that's.

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The idea behind the blanket p.o.

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Is it tied somehow to your funds at all, or is it totally separate or how is it.

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Yeah, it would be yeah, it would be tied to a specific fund, um so you could like we have an electronic uh database fund or you know, a digital resources fund and and then we charge all of our databases against it, but also the overdrive stuff. So you know in the databases we just pay.

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um Hopefully you know get the po and pay it, but with overdrive we are doing like I described. You know we buy credit content credit with them, so it's open, so it would look like in in the fund. It would look like all that money is spent.

C

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When you open the blanket po all that because it's pretty it basically is spent you've committed it to you know whatever vendor it is, um but um you wouldn't yeah that's does that help? Does that kind of explain? Okay, um I don't know if there's so robin did your.

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Your school or whatever, do you use it? How do you use your blank appeals.

D

Well, I know right now so say we have a blank appeal with ingram, and so we set up a fund and we just pay out of that fund. So I've got to double check the person who brought it up. I've got to double check what else she was referring to, because it might have something to do with our. You know streaming media and our ebook purchases, and things like that. So I'd have to double check and clarify with her okay.

A

Yeah so stephanie says sounds like we could use that for our blackstone annual standing orders yeah. That would be a good example.

E

So I just put a link to a document.

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And the thread about blank appeal is had to dig really deep for that, so I went ahead and put it in the call us google drive. So it's easier to get to now.

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So my my system just went down and came back up so jason. Could you put that link in there one more time, so I can see it.

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Thanks all right.

E

And it looks like something that you rhonda had shared back when the discussion was just getting started.

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Oh okay, oh yeah,.

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That's probably yes, somewhere on my desk a hard copy of that exists, but I'm not seeing it right now, but yeah. That's that's an example of um what somebody came up with for blanket pos.

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So um maybe we can do kind of I. What I'll do is on the.

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um The group, um what is that called? It's called the group. I guess the acquisitions group um I'll put a.

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Query out there.

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Just asking you know for people that are interested, and maybe we can do just like a working session, a small working session of just talking about it for people that are really you know interested and then we don't have to use time for people that really don't have a use for it.

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Does that work for everybody I'll just I'll, do that right after we get off this call I'll put put a post or whatever it's called out to the group and we can go from there and that will get whoever's, not here, also, okay, um so the for new business, something that we can look at. I wanted to look at. What's going to be in 2005 for acquisitions, any kinds of updates. I went through these and realized. It's really really really really heavy on purchase, suggestions and and the purchase suggestion functions.

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There's lots and lots of updates for that, um but maybe the best thing I can do.

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Let me just share this screen. There we go, and this is just you know you can.

A

Oh lord, what just happened? What do you guys see?

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Do you see harry potter or do you see system requirements.

E

We see system requirements, okay, the community website.

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Yeah, so this is yeah. This is the quahog community website. um I never tried to share my second screen before so this is, it doesn't have the red line around it to tell me which screen I'm saving or sharing um so this at the top. This is the koha 2005 um release, notes and what I did was just went through and found some of these.

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So um some of these make perfect sense to me and other ones, maybe other people can kind of describe how you use them, but so there's new features, there's enhanced features and there's bug fixes or yeah critical bug fixes. I think they call it in in this um release. Note so we'll kind of go through each of these.

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So for the new feature, um there's just one- and this is basically uh enhancement. I would call it of search to order function, you're in a basket and and right now I think it says um uh order or order from an existing record.

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um Now it's going to be search to order and we'll actually you know you will actually put in what you're searching for, and it will give you search results like you're used to seeing in the search the catalog results and you'll be able to add things from the basket so the advantage there, I'm sure you all realize, is, if you have things with similar titles, um you'll, be able to see more information about the ones that you're looking at and actually select the correct one to order from um so this yeah it'll.

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The advantage is, it use all the search features and the information shown in the normal catalog. So this should make searching for an item to add to a basket a little bit easier and less error prone.

A

So I think that is a good one. One thing I have noticed is I've lost all my chat, stuff.

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Can somebody keep an eye on the chat because.

G

I'll keep an eye on the chat ronda. Okay, thanks nothing, since uh jason posted the google drive link. ah I spoke to you soon. um Michelle uh says it still doesn't link up with the baskets created with edi correct.

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Well, this is, this is just to add something to a basket, and then you can either uh order it edi or not. You.

E

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This this will be this.

E

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Purchase suggestions- this is just um but yeah. This is just adding something to a basket. So if you want to you, could you could create a basket doing edi and then you could also add something to that basket. Using this function and then yeah.

A

I don't think that terminology was all correct. You could add something to a basket by downloading it from your vendor site and uploading it into a basket and then also adding things with.

E

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You know search to add something to a basket and then send it off edi.

A

We use the search to add to a basket more for replacement items and.

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I guess duplicate same kind of idea and then we'll send it edi and do.

A

Pardon me um we, we have a dupe account with ingram so that we're not paying for the record and for I guess, that's the main thing that we're not paying for another mark record. It gets attached to the existing record. The item will get attached to the existing record in our catalog, rather than creating a whole new bib record for it, and that saves on some confusion with people or with patrons. I should say so. Does that help answer the.

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Yeah yeah margaret, do you know when the bywater demo was going to get updated.

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Question I think we're aiming for around this week. um There's some rebasing of uh co-op community version, 2005 dot. I suppose it's o4, um that our devs are doing to make sure it has all our by water bells and whistles and then we'll be able to put it up, uh but expect it pretty soon uh we've got our you know internal test sites uh playing around with it, and our educators are hard at work, putting stuff to blog posts, um but we'll be coming soon.

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Yes, um so all right, yeah cause I've.

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It and haven't seen anything.

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I see hasina asked in chat um quote, I think it's a choice when we add items to a basket yeah.

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Yeah, that's right when you're adding items to a basket. This is one of the ways that you can add um an item to a basket.

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So um you know I forget what they all are hollywood, no better than me, because she looks at it a lot more than I do, um but um yeah from an existing item from a file from a staged file, um a bunch of different ways that you can add things to a basket right now and this that one is just making it a little easier and and less error.

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Think is the biggest thing you don't select. You know the wrong isbn a lot of times when I will add things to a basket just to make sure that I'm getting the right thing. I will search on the isbn.

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You know: take the isbn from ingram put that in to our catalog just to make sure that I'm getting the right record, um getting it attached to the to the right record.

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So that's there all right. So if there aren't any more questions, I'm gonna these are the enhancements to acquisitions.

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I'm not. This is one that I okay, um add columns for notes, order, number and isbn to late orders. Page um one thing we don't use the late orders function all that much so I don't know if, if you do use the late orders um functionality, I'm sure this is very good news for you.

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Does anybody use it.

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Yeah, I'm getting a no from chat.

A

Okay, all right, so I think there's one or two other things related to late orders in here too. um So this one is add the ability to suggest purchase from existing titles. So this enhancement adds the ability to create a new purchase. Suggestion from an existing catalog record.

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Does anybody have a use case for this one, because usually, if we have the item, we don't accept purchase suggestions for it unless it would be for.

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I could see it being useful for ordering a replacement copy- okay, like if you're, if the people yeah that make the purchases need a purchase suggestion, um then the librarian can go in and make that suggestion.

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Okay, yeah, because we we in the opac, we always turn off anything. That's you know, don't display anything, that's um lost, you know, because that's just a bummer, you know you think. Oh I found it and then you're like. Oh, it's lost. Okay. I can't get it anyway, um but.

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Yeah you're right the.

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Librarians would be able to add that would.

G

Be good- and it looks like a university suggested this one, so I bet they would have some more cases for it university options being a different beast than public library collections.

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This one was kind of interesting add an alert during purchase. Suggestion submission to warn the user when an existing biblio appears to satisfy the request.

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That happens, you know we get suggestions for things that we already have in the catalog regularly. I think so that one seems kind of cool.

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So and- and that would be nice for the patrons too to know- oh, you know they already have it. I can put a hold on it or or whatever so that that seems like a really cool one um add table configuration for the suggestions table. I'm sure that's related to the you can pick the columns that you want to display.

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I forget what that I guess it's table configuration um so they've added another table to that. um The suggestions table. So are you talking about configure columns?

A

Oh yeah yeah, I think so is that is that what that is? That's how I read it, but maybe this is different.

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Yeah, the the bug says: it's the column settings so.

A

Okay: okay, thanks jason.

G

So that's from the home screen to koha administration and then down towards the bottom. On the right hand, side with other things is column configuration for almost all of.

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The tables yeah yeah and there's and it's a growing number too. You know every every release.

E

There's a few more tables that you.

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Can configure so that's that's cool, so they've added the suggestions table to that one. That's good! A.

G

Good note is, after you update, go check that table because you might get a few new columns and a few places you don't want them.

A

Yes, that is a very good point. You could be surprised so, um okay, this one is um one that we sponsored with somebody else. I can't remember now a couple other libraries um add the ability to limit the number of purchase suggestions a patron may submit in a specified time period. So currently quahog will limit the.

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What is it the pending suggestions? You know you can limit uh the number of pending uh purchase. Suggestion open, that's the word I'm looking for. I think they use the word open, purchase suggestions.

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um Our workflow takes things out of that pending status, real quick, because we end up, you know, assigning him to librarians and things like that and so um people you know, there's the hardcore users of purchase suggestions. They will as soon as you move one to a another. You know librarian to look at or whatever they've got another one right in there.

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So what we wanted to be able to do was limit purchase suggestions over a period of time like you can only have three purchase suggestions over 30 days rolling. You know it would be a rolling kind of thing, so it adds a couple of new system preferences where you have to put in those parameters how many purchase suggestions and what your time period is.

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You know 30 days or whatever um I did do help with the sign off on this one, and one thing that I have noticed with our patrons: is they like to go in and delete their purchase suggestions once they've been processed and if they delete their purchase suggestions, this enhancement won't have any information for them to for it to figure out how many purchase suggestions they've had in the last.

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You know, whatever your time period is so um as soon as this comes in we're you know, I I will ask, and I talked to lucas- I think it was about this, but basically just remove the delete button off of the purchase on the opec side um for the patrons. So it.

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Allow them to delete the patron uh the purchase suggestions and our system is set up just to delete them after a year anyway. um So you know eventually they will go away, but that's just something to be aware of is if you want this to work properly, and you know it seems like our.

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Our heavy users of purchase suggestions are the ones that have figured out that they can delete the purchase suggestions because they like to keep the screen clean or whatever, or they figured out that we're going to check in probably is what that is, um and so my staff is really excited about this. um This is basically a function that we had in our previous ils so now to to get it back again is is pretty exciting, so.

G

I just want to say this is another reason we should have a deleted suggestions table yes, deleted items deleted bibs deleted bars. I really like the deleted suggestions. Yes,.

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Yeah, because I s somewhere- oh okay, so this one right here is add the ability to archive purchase, suggestions, nice so.

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Archive completed, purchase suggestions, I don't know what that looks like I'm really curious to see what that looks like I'm hoping that once um I I don't know about you, but the purchase suggestion page takes forever to load, because we have so many um purchase suggestions, and if this would you know just archive everything that we've handled and only try to load the current stuff. I think our performance would be really enhanced um and, and it would be great, you know people could we could go back.

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You know for statistical purposes or whatever just to check. You know.

G

There is a column, I don't know if it's new, but it probably is for archived uh binary, yes or no. Oh okay is the suggestion. Archived.

A

So so there must be some way that we can choose to archive it.

G

I wonder if that's a system preference or what oh, probably one of the options on the suggestion.

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Okay, hold up delete, okay, yeah, okay, yeah! That's that's a good thought, okay yeah! So this could be. This could be a really nice um feature too.

G

That is the new column in uh the suggestions table in 2017, it's not in 1911., so, okay, okay, yeah and I did see that hasina had a couple of questions in the chat. While we were talking about richard suggestions- and I think it relates to the previous topic casino, do you want to ask now.

C

Yes sure, um like I think I said, however, new suggestion adding into basket is it? Is it coming up a new um upgrade.

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So how is the new suggestion.

C

Yeah, can we add new suggestion uh into the basket.

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You can, if you don't evi order, you can add it to a basket. um Edi ordering doesn't have that function yet.

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Is a bug out there to add that function, but it hasn't been coded and completed yet. So if, if you are just regular ordering, you can add purchase suggestions to a basket, you have to be in the basket, you know it's like add. You know how that little pop-up screen comes up and it says you.

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Add from file add from stage file and yes, this thing one of them says purchase suggestion, add from purchase suggestion.

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Okay, so that's that's how you do that.

C

So yeah because we are trying to use edi so probably we should wait until the bug get fixed right, yeah, yeah! That's that's what we decided to do.

A

Okay makes sense yeah because otherwise you've got you know just a teeny little handful where we happen to order their purchase. Suggestion from you know what amazon or something like that and they get the nice little note that says: oh, it's been ordered, you know it's arrived or whatever, but most people don't and that I think, would be just confusing for people.

C

Makes sense yeah another one is like you mentioned, that uh suggestion uh module takes forever to upload. So how often do you delete you mention it actually that one year? Yes, we did it last year. We did it for six months and also, like you mentioned that, once you delete it, it delete the items from the patron account. So sometimes the patron said. Oh I I have requested the items and it didn't come for six months. So what is the best practice to keep it um like? You know, yeah, keep it in there.

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Yeah, well, I think this archive uh feature um might be the answer to our question, where you can actually keep the information about the purchase suggestion, but it would be archived so it wouldn't try to load it every time you go to the purchase suggestion page, so um I think that will definitely be a worth testing. You know playing around with this and seeing how this functions and and seeing how it shows up on the patrons page as well.

A

You know like once you archive it, will it show up in the opac or will it not? You know that kind of thing, um so I you know I'm I'm guessing.

A

Some people would want to see you know their purchase, suggestions for a while back anyway and other people are like once they suggested they don't care anymore, but I think that this archive ability might I want to explore this and see what that looks like.

A

So you know we chose one year, which still is a lot. You know it still is a lot of suggestions and it still takes a while to load, um but we're thinking that nobody's going to have a question within that one year. You know beyond the one year yeah so that that's I don't.

E

Know what best practice.

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Is that's what our choice is.

F

Thank you. So far, we've kept all of our suggestions since we came up and the reason was the director wanted to be able to say out of all the suggestions that we've received. You know this percent we've actually purchased. So we've responded, you know to you as a patron and so they're all still in there. But yes, it makes it very slow.

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So that would be a real. You know if you could just.

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Archive them that would be a real plus for you, for you guys, yeah, I've, note yeah, okay, all right! um Okay, this one add the ability to change the manager of a suggestion and notify the new manager.

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Change, you know, I guess what happens in our processing is we have you know somebody that just kind of keeps an eye on the pending stuff and then we'll assign it to the appropriate people. um But sometimes you know you actually look at it and you go. Oh, no, that's not really mine.

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That should be so-and-so's, so I guess this would be a way to change who's, getting it has it assigned to them and then also let that person know that you know it's been moved or you know whatever, usually I'll, send an email or just talk to somebody, but this would be a way to automate that I'm that's my understanding.

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So yeah there's two new columns in the suggestion table last modified the last modification by and last modification date.

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So that's that might be.

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This one is add a new suggestion, details tab on bibliographic records, so I'm imagining you know: we've got the details, tab and the acquisition tab, and then this would be another tab on that's suggestions. So.

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I guess that would that would give you information about any purchase suggestions that have been made on that tab. I'm thinking this relates up to the one where you can make a suggestion from an existing record. This would tell you what that information is so, um and this these, I think their numbers are all sequential right here. So I think they just kind of added these all they're. All related add a shortcut from the suggestion details, tab to the bibliographic details, tab in the staff client, so you could go from.

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Oh no, it doesn't say tab. I put that in there okay add a shortcut from suggestion details to the bibliographic details, so there would be a connection between those two and then um that's on the cla staff side and then a shortcut from suggestion details to bibliographic record in the.

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um And then also this one is part of the sequence. Add the ability to batch modify item types from the suggestion page.

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So you can batch modify suggestions. We don't need to do that very often modify, and usually it's just one here, one there. So we just do it one at a time. Somebody will put you know book when, when you know it's pretty obvious that they want the dvd or something like that from from everything else that they've entered so and again that's from a university, so they may have some you know uses for that and the ability to modify the suggestions.

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Reason field when receiving the item. So the suggestion reason field is often used to communicate additional information about a suggestion between the patron making the suggestion and the staff member acting upon it. This enhancement allows staff to update the field upon receipt of the item and thus update the patron regarding the current state of the new material.

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So that's kind of a.

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A manual way of letting people know that their purchase suggestion has come in.

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I guess the one step there is, you don't have to actually go, find their email address, it's it's already connected and you can send the notification.

G

Ronda, I see another question in the chat um from hasina and she's asking if anyone here has more than 10 libraries that also uses the acquisition module.

E

I have more than 10 libraries, but we we only use the purchase suggestions fortune really of the acquisitions module. So not that helpful. There.

C

Yeah, because um I mean, I think margaret knows that actually we're trying to use a budget module uh like in a whole acquisition module, including edi, so I just want to get as much as information you know from out there in order to convince our staff to use it and thanks to rhonda. Actually she came over. She did, uh like you know, share her opinion, but, like you know, they are writing one like one small system. So that's. Why, like you know, then again they have okay, we have multiple and you have bigger selection.

C

So how is going to you know in a good or bad way affect us? So I really like to know as much as possible yeah and I'm.

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Trying to think of a bigger group, you know bigger.

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System, I guess, is the word I'm looking for that uses the acquisitions module not even yeah.

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None of the consortia I can think of yeah.

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Use it like, I know that lizette's consortium does.

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Use his purchase.

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Suggestions, but that's about the extent of it, and I don't think that george's consortium does. I don't do you know margaret if anybody else out there is.

G

Part of me is like partner confidentiality right, not wanting to call anyone out, but I think that'd be. A good question to post to the google group is ask how many libraries you have and are you using all the features or some of the features of the acquisition module? So we can catch the attention of the folks that might not be able to attend. Today.

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C

That's a good idea: yeah margaret yeah and.

E

You can also, even if you're, not part of like the consortium group, you can also send messages to the consortium group um asking that those kinds of questions.

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G

Good um and there's also the heya um website, which is like, if libraries have opted in to share their statistics on what modules and system preferences they're using.

G

um That would not necessarily be a quick answer, but you could take a look at what types of libraries and how many of them overall are using acquisitions and see that level of adoption of that module.

G

Is it like in a group mail, you were saying or yeah so there's the acquisitions um special interest group, uh the um us groups and there's the cohab mailing list, big one um uh newsletter. Listserv thing words.

E

There's multiple lists: I can post some in the chat for you.

C

Yeah sure uh also like, if you don't mind, sharing that, what do you use? um We are not. We are not consortium. Actually, we do have seven branches together, eight nine branches together. um So it's a one one library, but we have multiple branches, so um yeah yeah.

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Yeah, okay yeah, those are um jason- will share some of those um ways to get. That's that's a great way to get feedback quickly. um I think the largest I mean fargo, I know uses acquisitions. They've got three locations.

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But other than that I don't really know.

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um Okay, so we're add ability to receive items in multiple currencies.

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Change your currency.

A

I guess I guess I'm reading this as within one order or one. You know uh one invoice, I guess is a better term for that um add ability to track the claim dates of later orders.

A

So this, I think, is to track multiple claim dates for a late order um and expose this audit record via the late order. So this is like the late late orders, functionality to the late orders table and here's.

F

Another one add quantity.

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Column to the late borders table, so this is another enhancement for the late orders table.

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For those that use use that functionality add the ability to define a csv profile for late orders, export there's another one and then add functionality to apply.

E

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From the acquisition framework for.

E

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Fields when adding records from external sources so that that could be handy, you know if you're getting um your records.

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G

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Being able to apply the acquisition framework to them, that would be good, had the ability to sort by dates in the suggestions table. Okay, separate information about dates and roles, separates information about dates and roles into separate columns. So they can sort nicely.

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I think they had the the role and the information and the date all in one column, so they've just separated those out, so you can sort by date, which is very nice and add the ability for librarians to choose a patron when entering a purchase suggestion.

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So that will that will be helpful. Especially you know. My thinking is with, if they're adding a purchase, a suggestion from an existing record. They may not.

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It'll be easier to attach it to a specific patron if they can just search for the patron, so that is all of the enhancements, and then these are critical bug fixes but, like it says up here, all bug fixes since the previous major version. Most of them have already been fixed in maintenance releases.

A

So this stuff right here is probably already fixed on your system, and these are critical bug fixes.

A

So is there thoughts general thoughts about some of these new enhancements for acquisitions?

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Anything you're excited.

G

About we could test some of these uh out on the demo site. um Come next month's meeting.

A

Yeah yeah, that would be good um yeah. So if, if you wanna look this over again some more and play around on the demo site, then we can kind of demonstrate um some of the the functionality and kind of.

F

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It and you know what about this: what about that? You know: try try different ways to see how how different things work, because it's one thing to read about it, but then another another thing to actually play with it and and see how it really works.

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Escobar in chat says uh they're excited about the limit on patron suggestions.

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Oh yes, yes, we are too. We love.

D

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But, oh my sometimes they love us too much.

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Part of the problem.

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So, um okay, um we've.

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Nine minutes left. um Does anybody have anything? You know that you're struggling with or a cool thing you discovered or.

G

Just a general comment: I have a fun little thing. Okay, this one came up in the uh reflection on quahog 20 years back to 1999 quahog conference yesterday, I'll put the link to youtube in the chat and uh in the in that minute, there's screenshots of what the acquisitions module looked at back in 2000.

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So I thought we could all uh on our free time, take a look at that and just appreciate how much it's changed in 20 years. If you want a blast from the past check that out.

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Okay, that's great! That will be fun because I'm sure that there's been lots of changes, I've.

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uh um Like tutorial videos from like even 10 years ago, and just the difference between then and now so.

A

Okay, does anybody have anything else that you want to talk about? I recently.

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Submitted some bugs um okay, two six, seven one two is to put the cursor in the basket name. So when you go to add a basket, the cursor's already there in that field,.

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26729 is basically the same thing. Put the cursor in the vendor name field when you go to add a new vendor, um 26680 is to um when you're in a basket and you're looking at items that have been received or not received, you see, in parentheses, the rcvd and that's to change that to actually say received and to also add a span to it. So you can style it like. We have ours um in red, bold just so that it stands out.

F

26731 is to potentially change the default sort order of inactive budgets.

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If I want to go and look at last year's budget- and I look at the inactive budgets- we came up in 2016, so we see that one and then 17 and then 18 and I had to scroll all the way down to the bottom to see. Just last year's budget seems like sorting in date. Descending order would be better and then 26732 is to add a drop down on the inactive budgets, so you could select which inactive budget you wanted to view.

G

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Okay, thank you. Those are all good things. Be amazed how.

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Annoying, it is to not have a cursor in the field where you expect it to be. You know.

E

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Happens on ingram too, it's like I'll, be I just assume when that home page comes up, that the cursor is going to be in the search box and it's not, and I just start typing and then also my name. My page starts doing all these weird things: oh yeah, that's that again!

A

So those those are time. Savers, it doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is a big deal.

E

I was I'm gonna rapid fire these into the chat. It looks like a couple of those you reported last week and they're already past qa, which is pretty cool.

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F

The cursor ones are they, you know, label them as trivial patch and I assume they're just so easy to fix that. You know it's a quick.

G

Is not the most flattering word for it, but yeah it's developer, but really important small but mighty.

F

There you go yeah.

A

um Yeah- and I saw barbara you signed off on the budget- fix one that we talked about. Yes, but yeah, that's good! That is a good deal and um yeah. I don't know how are. Is anybody here? An early adopter, okay, bedford is.

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This will be our first time.

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F

So we'll see.

A

Okay, yeah we've: this will be our third time, so um our staff is like yeah yeah. We'll do.

B

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Yeah so so we will be migrating on november 3rd. I think election day we'll have that trigger or whatever to remember.

A

So we can um yeah.

E

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Next um meeting we can kind of play around with some of these new features and see how they work and- and you know we may want to suggest you know little uh tweaks to them, which you know seems evident- that uh little tweaks we can get done fairly quickly and.

G

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Does anybody have anything else? A couple minutes left.

A

Okay, well, I did I've, I've contacted bywater and I'm trying to get a hold of the right person to put our enhancement or our development onto the dev site that they have and then once I'll. Let everybody know when that actually gets up there and we will see if we can get. You know if a whole bunch of libraries um put in a little bit of money.

A

We can maybe get that moving, because I think that one would be fantastic to get up there to get that moving.

A

So, okay! Well, if yay, if we don't have anything else, then we will call it a meeting.

A

So um yeah, the one thing I'll do is I'll put a query out on the chat or you know whatever. That is the google group um thing and just if you're interested in talking about the blanketpo stuff respond to that and we can get together kind of a working group um between maybe now and the next meeting and yeah I go probably after november. 14 would be good because then I will turn into a human again. Okay, um so yeah um everybody have a good month.

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Don't forget to vote your american duty and uh we'll talk to you all.

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