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01:03:20 Jason (SEKLS): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31162
01:04:38 Jason (SEKLS): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=138799
01:18:16 Joy: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/match-points-in-koha
01:23:00 Jason (SEKLS): Maybe Nelson's issue: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28290
01:25:18 Joy: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22785
01:25:33 Joy: This is in 22.05! Ability to manage matches in importing marc.
01:26:33 Jason (SEKLS): https://bywatersolutions.com/education/working-with-the-biblio-api-endpoint
01:27:51 George Williams - NEKLS: Fred is a test server.
01:29:29 Joy: Here is the second blog about match points. https://bywatersolutions.com/news/basic-overview-of-match-points
01:32:13 Jason (SEKLS): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28290
01:37:43 Joy: Link to the Koha Manual for 20.11 that lists the indexes. https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/searching.html#koha-search-indexes
01:48:04 Jason (SEKLS): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15500
02:03:38 Aly Rattler: Thanks, everyone! Have a wonderful weekend!
02:03:47 Nelson Fredsell, Denver CO: Thanks!!!
A
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
A
A
D
A
D
D
E
C
Automatically
assigns
the
999c
and
the
999-d,
it's
it's
the
biblio
number,
so
it's
already
in
the
record
when
you're
importing
the
record,
so
you
shouldn't
have
to
add
anything
to
it.
So
it's
the
100
best
match
when
you're
importing
a
record.
When
you
know
you
want
this
record
to
match
this
record,
it's
it's
like
the
the
best
match.
D
D
C
I
gotcha
I,
don't
believe
003
is
indexed
I.
Don't
know
that
you
could
use
that
as
a
match.
Point
I'd
have
to
look.
001
is
a
match
point,
but
you're
I
think
it
sounds
like
your
trick
is
to
find
the
very
best
match
or
match
points
that
you
can
in
the
data
that
you're
receiving
and
the
data
you're
trying
to
connect
it
to
or
match
it
to,
and
it's
that
that's
a
very
local
thing.
A
Okay,
you
could
use
Mark
edit
and
say
eliminate
duplicate
records
and
use
the
001
or
003
just
make
sure
that
when
you're
making
this
enormous
list
of
all
the
mark,
records
together,
put
the
one
with
the
great
records
at
the
top
and
then
say
keep
the
first
one
is
that
first
of
all,
does
that
make
sense?
Second
of
all,
am
I
correct.
C
Yeah
that
I've
used
that
trick
and
Market
it
before
too
it's.
It
is,
if
you
Market
it's
pretty
powerful,
there's,
probably
a
video
on
that
that
Terry
has
put
out
on
removing
duplicate
records,
but
again
I
think
it
comes
down
to
your
match
point,
because,
if
you're
going
to
tell
it
that
the
duplicates
can
be
identified
through
the
001,
if
you
don't
have
those
ones
in
the
like
bad
records,
it's
not
going
to
find
them
as
duplicates.
D
Right,
I,
don't
I,
don't
so
really
it's
one
I
have
one
set
of
really
high
quality
records
and
I
need
to
be
able
to
it's
it's
a
long
story,
but
basically
I
need
to
be
able
to
take
that
set
and
export
it
and
then
manipulate
it
and
then
bring
it
back
in
that
that
one
set
which
is
and
then
manually,
I'm
gonna,
have
to
match
the
new,
the
other,
the
other,
the
other
collections.
But
what
happens
is
when
I
use
match
points
when
I
use
this
record
matching
it
errors
out.
D
D
Does
that
ring
any
bells,
so
I
I
have
you
know
record
matching
rule
code
and
I?
Could
this
I
can
set
up
the
top
part
of
the
screen,
but
then
once
I
get
into
match
points
it
just
doesn't
seem
to
so
like.
Even
if
I
there
was
an
example
that
I
found
in
one
of
the
manuals
or
something
and
I
tried
to
just
copy
it
just
to
see,
if
I
could
do
it
and
I
can't
it's
not
saving
the
the
match.
Point.
D
F
Nelson
is
having
an
issue
with
importing
stuff
in
his
catalog.
I
have
never
used
the
mark,
match,
I've,
never
created
Mark
matching
rules
and
I
was
just
looking
at
the
interface,
and
it
seems
a
little
confusing
to
me
so
I'm
asking
you
know
by
in
slack
in
bywater's,
Channel
I'm,
suggesting
to
Kelly
and
Jesse
that
maybe
Monday
minutes
on
how
to
set
up
Mark
matching
rules
would
be
a
really
useful
Monday
minutes
for
some
people,
because.
A
B
B
F
I
remember
setting
some
up
when
I
worked
at
a
different
job
like
10
years
ago,
but
I
did
it
with
the
help
of
somebody
from
by
water.
I.
Think
I
did
it
with
the
help
from
Ruth.
Probably
so
it's
been
a
long
time
ago,
but
yeah
when
I
look
at
it.
Now
it's
like
I,
don't
remember
what
all
of
these
things
mean,
and
so
it
seems
like
it'd,
be
something
that
it'd
be
really
nice
to
have
a
walk
through
for.
G
G
A
B
C
C
It
is
referencing
another
blog
post
that
is,
is
I,
think
missing
on
our
website,
so
I'm
going
to
do
see
if
I
can
go,
find
that
link
to
that
blog
post.
It's
referenced
in
this
particular
blog
post.
Make
sure
that
that's
active
for
you
and
I
think
if
we
can
do
an
updated
money,
minutes
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
with
Kelly
and
Jesse.
So.
H
A
A
C
I
might
ask
Nick
if
he
remembers
it,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
wrestling
with
was
is
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
and
having
the
ability
to
either
approve
a
match,
or
maybe
designate
to
not
import
something
on
that
screen,
because
otherwise
you're
right
you're
sort
of
stuck
sort
of
backing
back
out
of
it
removing
records
and
then
re-importing
it
and
that's
that's
tedious
right.
Nobody
likes
that.
A
Yes
and
right
before
this
meeting
and
I'm
about
I'm
almost
finished
so
I
if
there's
an
easier
way
well
tell
me
for
next
time:
we've
got
a
lot
of
online
books.
Some
of
them
are
ones
that
we
have
licensed
through
a
vendor.
Some
of
them
I
can't
remember.
If
anyone
here
familiar
with
Rittenhouse,
R2
I,
don't
see
anyone
nodding,
you
get
their
entire
collection,
but
can
only
use
them
for
three
sessions,
after
which
you
either
have
to
buy
it
online,
which
is
astonishingly
expensive.
A
Yeah
I
think
all
I
want
to
overwrite
of
the
fields
are
probably
the
952
942
see
also
copied
the
o60
field
and
the
9520
is
this
started,
because
somebody
wants
a
list
of
all
the
Radiology
books
we
have
so
I
went
through
and
exported
all
the
wns
except
the
online
books.
Don't
have
call
numbers
because
well
I
would
need
call
numbers.
A
A
B
E
A
B
C
C
A
F
A
F
A
F
C
You
thank
you.
Good
I
I
also
put
the
the
one
that
I
found
it's
actually
in
2205
about
it's.
It's
one
step
towards
helping
manage
those
matches
and
Mark
records,
so
you
might
want
to
take
look
forward
to
2205
I'm.
Sorry,
Fred,
that's
a
ways
away
for
you,
if
you're
at
17,
but
for
everybody
else
who
maybe
is
a
little
closer
to
2205
that
can
undertake
that
or
if,
if
you're
on
Bywater,
when
we
do
those
rollouts.
C
A
B
D
B
E
B
D
C
C
D
D
D
D
It's
conceivable
I
mean
so
like
one
of
the
accession
numbers
is
like
one
on
this.
This
record
set
that
has
the
quality
records,
has
a
an
accession
number
that
looks
like
it
could
be
you
I'm,
just
theorizing.
It
could
be
used
by
another
organization,
so
it
has
like
one
thousand.
That's
an
accession
number
and
that's
to
me
looks
like
your.
You
know
a
recipe
for
a
duplicate
duplicate.
D
C
C
D
I
mean
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
to.
It
was
find
a
good
way
just
to
to
take
out
several
records,
because
it's
this
point,
it's
20
000
records
and
I
wanted
to
just
take.
You
know
three
or
four
of
them
and
just
play
with
three:
it's
a
good
idea
and
then
yeah,
but
I
did
manually
because
I
couldn't
really
figure
out
how
to
do
it
with
Mark
edit.
So
I
just
cut
and
pasted
into
a
new
into
a
new
record
into
a
new
file.
F
F
I
want
to
make,
and
then
you
figure
out
all
the
steps
that
you
need
to
do
and
then
you're
going
to
tell
the
assign
the
task
manager
I
want
to
create
a
new
task
that
does
this
step
this
step
this
step
in
this
order,
and
then
every
time
you
run
Mark
you
open
market
and
you'll.
Have
that
task
available,
and
so,
instead
of
having
to
to
manually,
go
in
and
say
do
this?
Do
this
second
thing?
F
Do
this
third
thing
you
just
push
a
button
and
it'll
repeat
those
over
and
over
again,
so
it's
a
pretty
easy
way
to
do.
A
lot
of
cleanup,
a
lot
of
repetitive
stuff
in
the
market
that
you're
going
to
do
over
and
over
again
and
and
I
can
totally
see
using
the
the
edit
edit
subfield
to
say
you
know.
Take
this
take.
F
F
A
A
A
C
Well,
for
me,
I'll,
just
kind
of
speak
from
my
perspective,
usually
heard
when
I
see
a
500
error.
It
makes
me
want
to
look
at
the
logs
on
the
server.
That's
the
first
thing.
I
want
to
do
because
I
want
to
understand
what
cost
that
500
and
that
can
a
lot
of
times,
speed
things
that
are
inconsistencies
and
what
we
are
finding.
What
we
have
found
over
the
past
year
or
two
is
that
inconsistencies
in
the
data
will
cause
those
500
errors,
because
Co
has
more
strict
about
them.
C
So
if
you
have
Legacy
data,
that's
not
quite
as
clean
and
and
when
I
say
that
I'm,
usually
referring
to
things
like
item
types
that
are
not,
they
maybe
have
trailing
spaces,
or
things
like
that
can
often
kind
of
like
throw
that
throw
a
monkey
wrench
into
things.
It
could
be
that
there's
some
sort
of
weird
hold:
that's
lingering
on
that
record
or
some
sort
of
circulation
or
something
that's
tying,
that
record
that's
preventing
it
from
from
doing
that
deletion,
but
the
logs
will
kind
of
point
you
to
it
that
you
might.
C
That
might
be
helpful,
I
mean,
but
this
is
from
my
perspective
right
and
then
I
would
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
database
to
make
sure
if
I
don't
have
sort
of
a
serious
issue.
Now
now
with
that
data
to
say:
okay,
let's
do
some
tidying
of
these
codes
so
that
we
don't
run
into
that
issue
anymore,
because
Kell
has
a
little
bit
more
strict
about
how
it's
handling
those
things.
D
C
C
C
So,
for
example,
right
like
finding
George,
I'm,
sorry
Fred's,
like
Radiology
books
and
then
finding
something
else,
that's
related
to
that
that
maybe
there's
a
it's
a
journal
versus
a
DVD
and
we
can
cut.
You
know
you
sort
of
pull
all
these.
These
works
together
related
to
that
I
mean
more
of
a
classic
thing,
like
all
of
the
instances
of
Harry
Potter.
If
you've
just
typed
that
in
right,
it
would
sort
of
group
them
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
for
the
end
user.
C
But
I'm
sort
of
curious
how
y'all
are
seeing
this
is.
There
is
a
need
for
this
on
the
staff
side.
If
this
is
done,
it
also
I
think
I
mean
obviously
on
the
OPAC.
Not
every
Library
can
afford
another
product,
it's
a
discovery
layer
on
top.
So
if
we
can
incorporate
some
of
these
concepts
of
ferberization
into
this,
that's
beneficial.
C
What
we
haven't
really
sat
down
to
to
think
about
and
like
really
kind
of
the
for
me,
it's
it's
well.
First
of
all,
there's
obviously
sort
of
development
time
that
needs
to
be
put
at
this
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
it's
understanding
before
we
build
something
understanding
how
how
the
catalogers,
who
are
the
ones
that
have
the
most
knowledge
about
the
data,
expect
it
to
work.
C
B
E
B
B
Easily
and
that's
I
threw
out
those
ideas
because
I
thought,
maybe
that
would
like
streamline
it,
go
faster.
You
know
like
if
we
can
copy
the
plumbing
from
authorities
and
do
herberization
with
that
that
sort
of
same
concept.
Maybe
we
can
knock
out
some
of
those
bullet
points,
but
it
really
I,
as
Heather
said,
I
just
want
developer
magic
to
make
it
work
and
I,
don't
know
how
to
do.
C
That
would
be
ideal
or
enforcing
links
where
they
really
felt
that
they
were
required
because
the
catalog
is
so
specialized,
in
other
words,
but
you
know
for
the
example
like
what
are
the
sources
that
are
out
there,
that
we
can
actually
use
to
harvest
to
understand
these
things
go
together
and
now
we're
going
to
skate
real
close
to
this
we're
going
to
fly
real
close
to
the
Sun
here
with
linked
data,
and
it's
like
okay,
are
we
actually
looking?
Should
we
be
looking
more
towards
something
like
a
linked
data
environment?
C
Obviously
understanding
that
Mark
is
sort
of
the
underpinning
of
that
currently,
but
should
we
be,
should
we
be
going
in
more
of
that
direction
and
understanding
our
collections
in
that
way,
or
is
that
something
that
that
that
made
Juliet
turn
her
camera
on
I
guess?
Do
you
have
some
thoughts
on
that.
I
Well,
I
was
just
thinking
about
the
because
we
use
Aspen
and
so
some
of
the
struggles
we've
had
with
the
ferberization.
That's
there
is
that
we
had
to
change
some
of
the
ways.
Item
Types
on
things
were
so
that
people
could
put
holds
on
items
that
were
showing
up,
as
you
know,
the
same
thing,
but
yet
they
didn't
want.
There's
we
have
some
items
that
aren't
allowed
holds
but
they're
the
same
thing
as
something
that
is
allowed
holds.
I
So
we
had
to
change
the
bib
records
and
put
them
on
their
own
record,
and
things
like
that.
So
there's
a
lot
I'm,
not
very
well
versed
with
the
cataloging
part,
but
just
being
able
to
control
that
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
was
just
thinking
of
is
it
includes
overdrive
records
in
ours
and
we
don't
have
any
control
of
how
overdrive
makes
their
records,
and
so
sometimes
it'll
match
really
weird
and.
I
C
Yeah
that
that's
that's
when
I
I
hear
a
lot
and
it's
not
just
overdrive,
but
you
know
essentially
any
third-party
record
that
you're
ingesting
you
know
you,
you
don't
have
the
resources
to
do
the
cataloging
that
you
feel
is
required
to
really
make
it
a
valid
and
good
findable
record
you're
sort
of
stuck
with
this
thing.
Yes,.
I
C
We
don't
know
how
it
was
made,
I'm
sure,
they're,
Auto,
generating
these
things
I'm
sure
they
don't
have
a
staff
of
catalogers
I'd
put
money
on
that
one.
So
auto-generated
records
are
obviously
have
limitations.
I
always
this
is
why
I
say
we
still
have.
We
still
have
control
over
the
machines
right
because
we
have
a
fully
developed
AI.
E
I
B
I
I
think
that
it
it
would
be
nice
to
make
it
sort
of
neutral,
like
maybe
it's
not
a
Mark
Mark
record
that
we're
cataloging
the
work
under.
Maybe
it
is
like
a
a
record
that
is
just
attributes.
You
know
that
we're
just
title
the
attribute
as
author
that
could
then
pull
from
those
external
sources
I.
My
concern
with
using
an
external
source
is
first
of
all,
there's
not
like
one
right.
B
I
mean
it's
not
there's
nothing
out
there
right
now,
that's
going
to
cover
our
entire
collection,
so
my
proposal
was
like:
let's,
let's
use
our
own
collections
as
a
starting,
a
jumping
off
point,
because
we
we
have
to
cover
everything,
that's
in
the
catalog
and
then
like
down
the
road.
Maybe
there's
a
way
we
can
bring
in
the
link
data
and.
E
C
We
go
and
we
look
at
something
that
might
have
bibliographic
data,
we're
sort
of
at
the
mercy
of
that
particular
Source
continuing
and
then,
whether
or
not
it's
free
or
not,
and
then
of
course,
that
complementing
that
with
something
like
music
brains,
where
we
would
get
information
about
music.
And
then,
if
there's
something
out
there
about
films
and
those
are
external
to
us,
that
we
don't
control,
which.
B
C
B
F
I
would
say
that
you
know
we
mentioned
the
survey
from
the
koha
conference
earlier.
There
were
I
think
at
least
three
people
that
said
that
something
they
would
like
to
see
at
the
next
conference
is
a
discussion
of
bib
frame,
and
then
there
was
also
people
wanted
to
know
about.
Ferberization
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
people.
Somebody
talked
about
it
at
one
of
the
presentations
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
don't
know
what
it
is
so
yeah,
yeah
Bruce
raises
his
hand
I've.
H
F
F
So
when
you
look
in
the
catalog
for
Pride
and
Prejudice,
you
get
50
different
results
and
having
one
that
just
says,
Pride
and
Prejudice
book.
You
know
that
would
make
things
a
lot
simpler
for
borrowers
and
the
solution
that
libraries
have
often
come
up
with
to
solve
that
problem
for
their
patrons.
Is
they
shove
all
of
the
different
editions
of
Pride
and
Prejudice
on
the
one
record?
F
B
And
for
us
it's
like,
we
don't
let
them
crunch
them
all
together.
So
then
we
have
50
different
records
and
if
they
flip
their
hold
on
one
record,
then
that
copy
can't
be
found.
There's
no
Avenue
for
the
other
copies
to
fill
their
record
without
deleting
the
hold
and
replacing
it
and
managing
it.
So
what
I
want
from
this
is
that
consolidation
for
holds
so
that
it
can.
You
can
streamline
that
process
and
not
not
bog
things
down
like
it
gets
bogged
down
right
now.
B
F
E
F
Have
a
bachelor's
degree:
some
of
them
are
also
our
high
school
graduates,
who
are
also
the
library,
director
and
they're
the
library
director
they're
the
person
at
the
circulation
desk,
and
they
also
clean
their
toilets
at
the
end
of
the
week
and
they
only
work
22
hours
a
week.
Some
of
them
don't
even
work
that
much
so
there's
a
there
is
a
wide
variety
of
skill
levels.
So
a
manual
solution
is
probably
not
going
to
work.