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From YouTube: Cataloging Special Interest Group - 11/3/2022
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01:04:04 Heather (she/her): heather_hernandez@nps.gov
01:06:23 Jason - SEKLS: https://training.seknfind.org/#/customizations/additemhelper
01:12:20 Heather (she/her): Quality control area of the Report Wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Quality_Control
01:15:49 Heather (she/her): OCLC Bib Formats and Standards: https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en.html
01:16:35 Jason - SEKLS: Pub date/008 mismatches report - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Identify_records_with_mismatched_008_vs_260c.2F264c
01:16:48 Heather (she/her): https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/specialcataloging.html
01:25:16 Fred King: "I got the Alan Lomax ain't been by to record me yet blues."
01:27:04 Heather (she/her): Audio CD in our catalog: https://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=38195&query_desc=
01:27:41 Heather (she/her): Some recent RDA records in our catalog, including cartographic: https://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?op=view&shelfnumber=52&sortfield=title
01:32:09 Heather (she/her): MARC21 format 024: https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd024.html
01:33:38 Heather (she/her): Item record call number field = 952 subfield o
01:37:13 Jason - SEKLS: Monday minutes on Marc Modification Templates: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-marc-modification-templates
01:39:04 Heather (she/her): Information on our Cataloging SIG email list is here: https://koha-us.org/special-interest-groups/ the "Join mailing list" link takes you to the Google Group, and joining and posting to that is a great way to reach people who can't make it to the meetings: https://groups.google.com/a/koha-us.org/g/cataloging
01:42:52 Heather (she/her): Bywater Solutions' 22.05 Upgrade Hub website, free to all: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/koha-2205-upgrades-hub
01:45:12 Heather (she/her): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13600
01:46:26 Heather (she/her): https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31162
01:47:42 Heather (she/her): Koha Community newsletters here: https://koha-community.org/news/
01:48:26 Heather (she/her): https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd6xx.html
01:54:24 Heather (she/her): https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd650.html
01:55:05 Heather (she/her): https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/029.html
01:56:21 Heather (she/her): The 035 field, System Control Numbers https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd035.html
01:58:21 Jason - SEKLS: Other-control-number
02:02:55 Heather (she/her): MARC21 title, 245 field, indicators that are really influential for title sorting: https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd245.html
A
A
B
A
A
I
I
wanted
to
mention
to
everyone
that
there
is
a
patch
testing
session
going
on
as
we
speak
today,
so
the
announcement
and
the
linked
join.
The
video
meeting
was
posted
to
the
main
Coho
list.
If
you
didn't
get
it
or
didn't
see
it
shoot
me,
an
email
and
I
will
forward
it
to
you.
I'm
going
to
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat
in
the
list.
Archives
for
the
main
Coho
list
are
also
available
on
the
koha
wiki
and
it's
it.
A
C
C
Jquery
on
my
ad
item
form
that
like
does
stuff
basically,
so
we
have
the
way
that
our
collection
code
shelf
locations
break
down.
Generally.
If
you
pick
a
shelf
location,
it's
going
to
go
into
a
specific
collection
code
so
like.
If
you
pick
adult
fiction,
it
goes
into
adult
books.
So
in
theory
you
could
adopt
that
for
the
item
type
not
for
loans
like
if
you
put
it
in
an
item
type
of
reference
and
it
needs
to
be
a
not-for-one
status.
C
It's
the
same
sort
of
logic
there.
Oh
so
yeah
my
my
code
and
there's
some
examples
in
the
link
I
just
put
in
the
chat
about
how
I
did
that
I
was
trying.
I
was
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
the
08
260
thing
I'm,
just
like
you
could
probably
do
that.
You
would
have
to
figure
out
how
to
parse
it
out,
so
that
it's
picking
the
right
piece
of
information
from
the
OA
to
compare
to
the
right
piece
of
information.
The
260.
C
A
I
kind
of
my
mind,
kind
of
boggled
I
could
see
some
things
being
easily
standardized
between,
say,
US
states,
because
those
tend
to
either
have
postal
abbreviations
or
some
sort
of
standard
abbreviations
like
California
can
be
Calif
or
now
with
RDA.
The
entire
state
name
spread
out,
so
those
could
be
kind
of
done
and
but
I
my
mind
boggled
at
the
amount
of
variation
that
could
be
if
you're,
transcribing
in
the
language
of
the
item.
C
Right
and
my
brain
directly
went
to
the
dates,
because
a
lot
of
our
dates
don't
match
up
like
the
oh
it'll
have
one
thing
and
the
see
some
people
have
something
different
and
then
it
doesn't
sort
correctly
so
like
how
do
I
get
those
years
to
line
up
when
there's
a
sometimes
there's
a
fee
for
copyright
in
the
in
the
subfield,
C
and
yeah
I.
Think
that
would
be
a
lot
of
massaging
out
the
right
information
from
those
fields
to
then
compare
yeah.
C
One
one
other
like
quality
control
thing
that
that
I
do
on
the
item
form.
It
wasn't
mentioned
there,
but
it's
spaces
like
spaces
in
the
barcode
spaces.
In
the
item
call
number
so
George
wrote
some
jQuery
for
the
call,
number
and
I
wrote
some
jQuery
for
the
barcode,
and
then
we
swap
so
but
like
basically
it'll
strip
out
Extra
Spaces
before
and
after
a
barcode.
So
that's
can't
be
entered
incorrectly
and
like
double
spaces,
and
the
call
number
happens
a
lot
so
it
strips
out
those
so
that
they
sort
correctly.
C
A
That
sounds
super
useful,
because
call
member
sorting
is
important
for
paging
and
yeah.
I
I
was
also
thinking
about
how
how
is
the
data
used?
So
how
do
we
evaluate
doing
our
quality
control
and
prioritizing
our
quality
control
for
what
our
users
are
actually
searching
and
sorting
for
and
sorting
on
call
number
is
so
important
for
paging
and
sorting
by
date
is
something
that
users
really
do
I
think,
especially
with
non-fiction,
because
they'll
want
something
recent
or.
B
A
D
C
D
E
C
A
B
B
A
E
I
have
something
that's
somewhat
related
to
Quality
Control.
Actually,
so
I
am
working
on
I'm
hoping
this
is
a
realistic
dream
and
not
you
know,
I'm,
starting
something
that
I'm
not
really
gonna
be
able
to
finish.
I
am
coming
up
with
templates
for
every
item
type
that
we
have
to
like
microfiche,
DVDs
videos
and
I'm.
Trying
to
you
know,
what's
the
standard
leader,
zero,
zero,
six,
seven,
eight
fields
that
are
applicable,
what's
the
three
three
six,
seven
eight
and
then
the
942c,
which
koha
really
loves.
E
B
E
Me
what
I
did
wrong
before
I
turn
these
into
I
I
know:
I'm
gonna
create
Frameworks
out
of
them,
because
that
way,
people
coming
in
all
they
do
is
Select.
I
have
a
DVD.
Let
me
choose
DVD
and
I
know
they
will
not
touch
the
leader
Missouri.
Six,
seven
and
eight
ever
again,
like
all
they'll,
do
is
change
the
framework
I
get
that
that's.
Why
I'm
creating
these
so
that
they
don't
all
say
book
and
sort
as
a
book
or
filter.
E
As
a
book,
that's
driving
me
nuts
would
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
so
I
guess
two
things,
one.
What's
a
good
format
that
as
a
user
so
like
koha,
will
have
the
framework,
but
I'm
also
wanting
to
create
a
tool
that
people
can
read
to
help
and
understand.
This
is
what's
Happening.
Here
I
also
think
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
create
the
advanced
editor.
E
E
A
The
okay,
so
frame
coming
up
with
the
Frameworks
is
awesome
because
they
are
actually
shareable
and
coming
up
with
the
macros
is
also
awesome.
They
are
shareable.
There
are
some
macros
on
the
wiki,
as
you
mentioned,
I
put
links
to
bibliograph,
clc's
bibliographic
formats
and
standards,
because
that
is
a
freely
available
resource
that,
in
the
special
cataloging
guidelines,
section,
have
some
really
useful
guidelines
for
special
types
of
Publications
things
like
an
electronic
resource,
an
integrating
resource.
B
A
Microform
and
points
out
that
your
special
you
know
what
you
typically
have
in
an
Ooa,
no
0607,
that
sort
of
thing
and
there
are
for
the
advanced,
cataloging,
editor
I,
mean
I'd,
say
who's
doing
your
cataloging.
You
can
Supply
things
in
your
framework
and
that's
great
for
people
using
I
think
the
basic
editor,
because
that's
that's
what
they're
going
to
interact
with
they're,
not
going
to
be
using
macros.
If
you
have,
if
you're,
if
you're
doing
a
lot
of
this
for
your
audience
or
you're
doing
both
the.
E
B
E
E
A
Yes,
and
and
share
your
results
too
I
mean
it
sounds
like
you're
going
to
come
up
with
some
good
default
things
that
could
be
shared
on
The,
Coho,
Wiki
and
possibly
even
at
koha,
us
for
sure
off.
The
top
of
my
head
regarding
3xx
Fields,
certain
formats
tend
to
have
the
same,
like
books
tend
to
have
the
same
3xx
monographs
the
same
3xx
fields,
periodicals
tend
to
have
the
same
3xx
Fields.
But
when
you
have
a
visual
materials
record,
it
could
be
a
photograph,
that's
a
sheet.
A
E
We've
tried
to
make
our
item
types
very
specific,
so,
like
we
have
an
online
journal
and
a
print
Journal
like
we
we've
we've
separated
those
one
problem.
I've
run
into
we've
separated
a
video
CD
from
a
DVD
and
I
can't
figure
out
what's
different
in
the
field
like
I
everything
I
find
it's
like.
It's
really
the
same
thing.
The
only
difference
is
in
like
the
format
that
it
would
use
in
which
no
one
is
going
to
take
the
time
to
do
that.
So
the
item
type
is
more
for
the
patron
to
know.
E
A
E
E
E
And
so
that
sort
of
detail
it's
like
well,
whenever
someone
comes
and
tells
me
then
I'll
put
it,
you
know
it'll
I'm,
fine
and
I'm,
actually
fine
with
that,
as
long
as
I'm
like
we'll
leave
it
empty.
But
whenever
someone
comes
and
tells
you
this
information
or
you
accidentally
figure
it
out
because
of
something
you
did.
Please
email
me,
so
we
can
put
that
in
you
know,
after
the
fact
and
some
of
it
I
think
they'll
find
out.
E
A
A
D
A
E
Dream,
but
this
is
going
to
require
some
jQuery
or
css
or
a
language
that
I
do
not
know
to
put
it
directly
in
koha.
So
whenever
I'm
finished,
if
the
koha
U.S
Community
wants
to
help
get
involved
and
help
write
that
part
I'm
just
collecting
that
this
is
what
it
needs
to
say
and
let
someone
else
I've.
C
E
D
B
E
That's
my
fear
is
I'm
gonna,
listen
to
it
and
then
go.
Oh
I
really
need
to
listen
to
that
again,
because
I
didn't
understand,
half
of
what
they
told
me
and
then
I'll
get
you
know
five
times
later.
Okay
I
think
I
got
it
just
keep
you
know,
layer
up
and
layer
upon
layer
upon
layer
and
I.
Finally,
so
I
love
the
killer
cards,
people
yeah
share
their
story.
When
I'm
done
with
this,
it's
going
to
be
a
presentation
because
I
feel
like
I,
am
entering
into
the
deep
end
of
the
ocean.
D
D
Last
time,
which
was
my
first
time
to
come
to
the
cataloging
Sig
I
was
working
on
match
points
on
the
bid,
records
and
I
was
trying
to
do
a
match
point
without
a
subfield
which
it
turns
out.
Koha
cannot
do
so.
I
was
trying
to
match
on
the
001
and
the
003
and
doesn't
work,
and
this
were
until
the
current
version.
Apparently
the
22.11
might
implement
it.
Oh.
D
The
the
the
batch
of
records
that
I
have
has
the
accession
number
is
in
the
001.,
and
so
what
they
said
was
what
joy
and
Jason
Lucas
Lucas
anyway
I
said
said:
you
need
to
go,
you
need
to
here's
the
list
of
indexes
and
yeah.
It
was
Jason,
enjoy
it.
Okay,
here's
a
list
of
here's
the
list
of
indexes
and
you
need
to
find
so
what
I
took
was
you
need
to
find
an
index
with
a
subfield
and
work
with
that,
so
I've
identified
o24a.
D
And
I,
using
Mark
edit
I
copied
the
001
into
the
o24
and
then
I
appended
it
with
the
003.
So
I've
got
an
o24a,
that's
a
combination
of
001
and
003
and
then
I
tried
to
do
a
match
point
and
it
still
doesn't
work.
So
I,
don't
really
know
you
know.
I
I'd
be
like
every
micro,
Step,
I
Take,
there's
like
a
block
on
things.
I
I
get
the
500
error
when
I
try
to
do
the
match
point
on
that
particular
indexed
field.
D
So
that's
one
issue
that
I've
got
if
anyone
and
then
the
other
issue
is
I've
got
in
the
item.
Records
I've
got
in
the
same
external
batch
I've
got
subfields
that
are
different
from
the
subfields
in
koha
and
so
like
the
call
number
is
broken
out
into
multiple
subfields
and
I
wanted
to
try
and
you
know,
aggregate
those
those
subfields
into
the
single
whatever
it
is
for
Cohan,
yeah
and
I
haven't
been
successful.
I've
been
able
to
like
move
it,
but
I
know
there's
like
an
append
code,
that's
native
to
Mark
edit.
D
Maybe
so
it's
not
necessarily
reg
edit
reg
X,
regular
expressions
and
but
that
to
me
is
like
something
I
can
deal
with
a
little
bit
later.
It's
really
just
trying
to
before
I
load
this.
This
monster
batch
of
Records
into
my
catalog
I,
want
to
be
able
to
get
them
back
out
and
edit
them
and
then
and
then,
and
then
put
them
back
in
and
match
them.
D
If
that
makes
sense,
and
then
I'll
be
getting
sequentially
as
this
external
organization
catalog
stuff
and
provides
these
records
with
the
o
one,
you
know
I'm
gonna
have
to
it's
a
continual
process.
It's
not
a
once-off
batch
that
I'm
dealing
with
it's.
You
know,
there's
updates
that
I
get
that
aren't
gonna,
be
directly
loadable
in
my
version,
which
is
2111.
A
A
The
yeah
they
I
put
in
the
in
the
chat,
the
item
record
call
number
field,
is
the
952
subfield
o
and
it
wants
the
entire
call
number
in
that
subfield
I
know:
Mark
edit,
is
your
friend
for
taking
information
in
different
subfields
and
putting
it
all
together
in
one
subfield,
I've,
never
done
it
and
I,
don't
know
about
I
mean
I,
know
it
with
market
and
koha
and
Mark
modification
templates.
It's
really
easy
to
have
a
bib
record
overlay.
You
know,
take
a
a
copy
of
the
big
record
out.
A
B
A
D
D
D
A
B
B
We
get
three
uses
and
then
we
either
have
to
buy
it
or
buy
a
copy
or
just
not
have
it
anymore,
and
it's
really
useful
for
books
that
get
used,
maybe
once
every
five
years,
because
it
all
comes
under
our
huge,
are
two
payments.
Well
I
decided
that
cataloging
them
as
ebooks
doesn't
really
work,
because
these
are
more
ephemeral,
ebooks
and
for
various
reasons
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
divide
it
into
two
ebooks
that
we
have
bought
and
license.
B
We
can
have
in
perpetuity
as
long
as
well
comparative
perpetuity
and
so
I
exported
all
the
R2
books
by
item
number
and
then
changed
to
yeah,
see
the
942,
the
952
8
and
the
952
y
to
R2
and
then
tried
to
put
it
back
in
and
I
had
5100
items
exactly
or
books.
Excuse
me:
I
I
managed
to
upload
five
thousand
of
them
probably,
and
it
was
in
the
first
hundred
that
there
was
a
problem
and
you
know
just
stopped
there
until
I
got
a
500
error.
B
Yeah
I
thought
about
I
could
use
mark
modification
templates
for
the
bib
records
or
reasons
I
still
didn't
understand.
I
couldn't
do
that
with
the
item
record,
even
though
I
was
matching
on
and
I
think
the
999c
I
was
still
getting
a
lot
of
things
that
were
books
or
journals,
your
print
journals
and
I.
Don't
know
why
so
yeah
exporting
and
then
importing
back
was
the
tedious,
very
tedious
but
effective
way
to
do
it.
The
another
problem
is,
you
know:
I
have
records
for
all
of
the
R2
952
records
for
all
the
books.
B
That's
I
wanted
them
to
be
replaced.
Some
of
them
replaced
some
of
them
didn't
I,
don't
know
why.
So
now
I
have
to
go
through
5000
5100
books.
If
I
ever
get
the
first
hundred
sorted
out
and
see
which
one
has
two
almost
identical
item
records,
the
a
session
date
is
different,
so
I
can't
do
delete
duplicate
data
in
Market
edit
and
besides
it
went
in
they
acquired
the
extra
item
records
when
I
was
uploading.
Them
has
changed,
so
I'd
have
to
export
them
again.
I.
C
B
B
D
D
B
B
B
A
A
B
A
I
did
put
a
link
in
the
chat
to
buy
water
solutions,
has
a
22.05
upgrade
Hub
website,
they've
created
and
they're,
going
to
be
adding
resources
to
that
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
information.
There
I'd
also
point
out
to
people
that
the
koha
community
newsletter,
which
is
on
The
Coho
website
every
month,
comes
out
every
month
and
has
links
to
really
helpful
videos
blog
posts.
A
Is
number
13600
which
is
signed
off
and
it's
fixing
issues
with
8xx
Fields
not
showing
up
if
there's
no
4xx
field?
These
are
series
fields
and
8xx
is
where
the
series
is
traced.
It's
the
added
entry
and
so
and
the
4xx
is
the
transcription
field.
But
sometimes
you
don't
have
a
4xx
like
you've
got
you've
got
a
book
which
is
the
fifth
one
in
the
series
you
know
featuring
this
fictional
detective,
but
they
didn't
put.
They
don't
have
a
series
title
page
or
anything,
but
everybody
knows
it's
a
series.
A
So
you're
gonna
have
a
note,
like
a
500
field,
saying
the
fifth
detective
barkington
barkston
novel
with
the
dog
detective,
who
solves
his
case
and
always
gets
his
cat
and
then
that's
going
to
be
traced
in
an
8X
act.
So
that's
one
area
this
shows
up
and
another
bug
which
is
push
to
master
is
the
very
exciting
add
a
clear
cataloging,
Module
home
page
and
I
know
we're
all
at
the
edge
of
our
seats
about
that.
One.
B
A
B
B
B
B
A
For
the
6xx
fields
and
in
your
case,
we're
starting
to
you're
going
to
want
to
look
at
the
650s
and
the
655s
and
there
are
subfields
in
those
fields
that
refer
to
their
indie
I'm,
getting
ahead
of
myself.
There
are
indicators,
for
example,
in
the
second
indicator:
seven
that
refers
to
a
subfield
within
the
field,
so
indicator.
7,
says
the
source
specified
in
subfield
2
and
in
subfield
2
you're,
going
to
have
an
abbreviation
so.
A
A
A
B
D
A
And
that
would
be
something
would
be
great
if
it
could
be
shared
on
the
cohoiki.
For
all
of
us
who
probably
do
similar
things
because
stripping
out
subject
headings
in
the
survey
that
you
don't
use
is
a
very
typical
thing
and
stripping
out
o24
call
numbers
or
I
mean
o24
numbers
that
you
don't
use
is
a
very
typical
thing,
but
I
would
urge
caution
with
the
o24s
because,
like
as
we
heard
from
Nelson,
some
people
need
to
use
those
in
creative
ways.
A
B
A
That's
a
very
good,
very
good
practice.
We
we
also
do
strip
out
the
fast
headings
because
they
tend
to.
They
tend
to
really
dilute
our
keyword,
searching
especially
if
someone
in
our
Maritime
Museum
cataloging
is
looking
for.
I
want
history
of
ships.
It's
like!
Oh
we've.
We've
already
got
a
lot
of
those
terms
showing
up
in
the
in
the
authority
controlled
headings.
Yes,
Jason
popped,
something
in
the
chat.
Oh
I've,.
C
A
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
make
a
pitch
here
for
actually
adding
to
the
main
koha
manual.
It's
it's
not
impossible
and
the
people
who
handle
it
are
super
friendly.
I
asked
a
lot
of
newbie
questions,
but
adding
an
image
and
how
to
do
things
like
this?
Getting
it
in
the
official
manual
really
helps
people
along
the
way.
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Do
you
take
a
look
at
whether
or
not
your
Cohen
installation
is
actually
using
this
because
a
lot
of
people
have
their
cohub
profiled
to
actually
use
this
field
for
system
control,
a
lot
of
people?
Don't
if
you
don't
that's
a
good
place
to
map
unused
numbers
that
might
that
you're
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
be
useful
in
the
future
or
not.
D
C
A
That
are
important,
and
that
might
be
something
to
check,
because
the
o24
also
carries,
according
to
the
indicators,
Universal
product
codes,
International
standard
music
numbers
that
sort
of
standards
and
the
035
has
completely
blank
indicators,
so
the
o35
might
be
more
more
flexible
easier,
since
it's
not
going
to
be
stumbling
or
needing
or
requiring
these
indicators
or
possibly
causing
any
validations.
I,
don't
know.
D
D
C
D
B
B
C
B
D
C
B
E
E
B
E
B
E
See
is
also
in
the
later
versions
of
kohai.
It's
just
this
beautiful
little
icon
in
the
bibliographic
record,
all
the
search
results
and
in
the
bibliographic
record,
which
for
a
patron
I.
That's
what
they're
gonna
look
at
they're
they're,
looking
at
both
that
little
picture
of
the
icon
of
what
the
item
type
is
and
the
title
and
the
new
records
it's
a
deep.
It's
mandatory
when
you,
whatever
framework
you're
using
It's
gotta,
have
that
942c
I
made
it
we're
not
and.
A
E
B
E
Thanks
so
we're
so
that's
part
of
this
project
is
I'm,
going
to
remove
the
wrong
one,
but
now
that
we
but
I
can
because
we're
using
the
942c
for
that
icon
display
instead
of
the
material
type
that's
identified
in
the
the
leader,
I
think
it's
the
leader
and
the
so
our
reprint
articles
are
the
main
ones
that
we
finally
figured
out.
Actually
that's
a
monograph
item
and
the
item.
The
942c
is
a
reprint
article.
We
have
a
lot
of
those
where
they
pulled
them
out
to
help
people
or
they've
just
got
that
one
little.
E
E
B
B
E
E
E
A
One
XX
fields
to
7xx
fields
for
standard
is
a
non-standard
operation,
but
a
lot
of
places
find
it
very
useful,
especially
if
you
don't
have
catalogers
on
staff,
because
you
just
don't
have
to
try
to
explain
to
people
the
archaic
concept
of
main
entry
and
why
some
of
the
off
personal,
you
know
authors
and
corporate
authors,
etc,
etc,
are
a
one
XX
rather
than
a
7xx.
So
that's
a
very
common
cataloging
solution
and
in
an
automated
environment
it
displays
a
little
differently,
but
a
lot
of
users
it.
It
doesn't
matter
to
them.